Re: [NTG-context] spanish tilde-n lost

2009-06-29 Thread Peter Münster
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009, Ciro Soto wrote:

 This last solution is the one I was looking for because my keyboard has no ñ

You only need dead_tilde and n to build the ñ.
Cheers, Peter

P.S.: I've just tried dead_tilde - dead_circumflex - E, it works!
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Re: [NTG-context] spanish tilde-n lost

2009-06-29 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 16:31, Hans Hagen wrote:
 Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 But still I would ask Hans to add the following line to enco-ini.mkiv:

    \defineaccent ~ N {\Ntilde}        \defineaccent ~ n {\ntilde}

 (I always thought that these lines were auto-generated from Unicode
 data on the fly.)

 not this one; the ntild probably got lost at some point during cleaning up

I would bet that not many people would use those characters if any,
but on the list quite some more characters are missing that exist in
Unicode:

Zcircumflex,
Ngrave, Wgrave,
Etilde, Vtilde, Ytilde,
Hdiaeresis, Tdiaeresis, Wdiaeresis, Xdiaeresis,
Gacute, Kacute, Macute, Pacute, Wacute, ...

(I stopped at acute, there are a few more accents ...)

But just repeating the pattern (\defineaccent ^ Z {\Zcircumflex})
would mean having to define new named entities. In MKII these would
not make any sense at all as there was no TeX encoding supporting
these characters. An alternative would be to define them directly from
Unicode data in MKIV.

I'm not suggesting that this needs to be added ... Extra low priority
task, or if someone else asks.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] spanish tilde-n lost

2009-06-28 Thread Peter Münster
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009, t...@mac.com wrote:

 If you can do without MkII compatibility the most elegant solution may be to
 simply replace all instances of \~n with ñ,
 e.g. co\~nazo -- coñazo.

Works even with MKII, you only need to declare you character set, for
example:
\enableregime[utf]

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Re: [NTG-context] spanish tilde-n lost

2009-06-28 Thread thfl


On Jun 28, 2009, at 7:30 AM, t...@mac.com wrote:



On Jun 28, 2009, at 1:16 AM, Ciro Soto wrote:


Hi all,
I finally got around the intallation of context minimals. Thank you  
for those who helped. I ran my old tex files (in spanish) and found  
that \~n is not working now.
It should create an n with a tilde on top, but what happens is that  
there is no

letter printed at all.

What is the fix for this?  Any switch?
(I know I could use \char but I am looking for a more elegant  
solution)


thank you
Ciro



If you can do without MkII compatibility the most elegant solution  
may be to simply replace all instances of \~n with ñ,

e.g. co\~nazo -- coñazo.

Tom



correction:

this even works in MkII also if you put a \enableregime[utf] in your  
file/environment.


Tom
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Re: [NTG-context] spanish tilde-n lost

2009-06-28 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 01:16, Ciro Soto wrote:
 Hi all,
 I finally got around the intallation of context minimals. Thank you for
 those who helped. I ran my old tex files (in spanish) and found that \~n is
 not working now.
 It should create an n with a tilde on top, but what happens is that there is
 no
 letter printed at all.

I guess that you are asking about MKIV since it seems to work OK in MKII.

 What is the fix for this?  Any switch?
 (I know I could use \char but I am looking for a more elegant solution)

The most elegant solution is to use just ñ and it should work out of
the box there.
But still I would ask Hans to add the following line to enco-ini.mkiv:

\defineaccent ~ N {\Ntilde}\defineaccent ~ n {\ntilde}

You can try to modify the file yourself, then run context --make and
it should start working.

(I always thought that these lines were auto-generated from Unicode
data on the fly.)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] spanish tilde-n lost

2009-06-28 Thread Hans Hagen

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 01:16, Ciro Soto wrote:

Hi all,
I finally got around the intallation of context minimals. Thank you for
those who helped. I ran my old tex files (in spanish) and found that \~n is
not working now.
It should create an n with a tilde on top, but what happens is that there is
no
letter printed at all.


I guess that you are asking about MKIV since it seems to work OK in MKII.


What is the fix for this?  Any switch?
(I know I could use \char but I am looking for a more elegant solution)


The most elegant solution is to use just ñ and it should work out of
the box there.
But still I would ask Hans to add the following line to enco-ini.mkiv:

\defineaccent ~ N {\Ntilde}\defineaccent ~ n {\ntilde}

You can try to modify the file yourself, then run context --make and
it should start working.

(I always thought that these lines were auto-generated from Unicode
data on the fly.)


not this one; the ntild probably got lost at some point during cleaning up

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Re: [NTG-context] spanish tilde-n lost

2009-06-28 Thread Ciro Soto
Thank you all.
This is the feedback of your recommendations:

\enableregime[utf]
didn't work.

typing just ñ
worked fine.

\defineaccent ~ n {\ntilde}
worked using \~n and

This last solution is the one I was looking for because my keyboard has no ñ

thanks

Ciro


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On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 01:16, Ciro Soto wrote:

 Hi all,
 I finally got around the intallation of context minimals. Thank you for
 those who helped. I ran my old tex files (in spanish) and found that \~n
 is
 not working now.
 It should create an n with a tilde on top, but what happens is that there
 is
 no
 letter printed at all.


 I guess that you are asking about MKIV since it seems to work OK in MKII.

  What is the fix for this?  Any switch?
 (I know I could use \char but I am looking for a more elegant solution)


 The most elegant solution is to use just ñ and it should work out of
 the box there.
 But still I would ask Hans to add the following line to enco-ini.mkiv:

\defineaccent ~ N {\Ntilde}\defineaccent ~ n {\ntilde}

 You can try to modify the file yourself, then run context --make and
 it should start working.

 (I always thought that these lines were auto-generated from Unicode
 data on the fly.)


 not this one; the ntild probably got lost at some point during cleaning up

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Re: [NTG-context] spanish tilde-n lost

2009-06-27 Thread thfl


On Jun 28, 2009, at 1:16 AM, Ciro Soto wrote:


Hi all,
I finally got around the intallation of context minimals. Thank you  
for those who helped. I ran my old tex files (in spanish) and found  
that \~n is not working now.
It should create an n with a tilde on top, but what happens is that  
there is no

letter printed at all.

What is the fix for this?  Any switch?
(I know I could use \char but I am looking for a more elegant  
solution)


thank you
Ciro



If you can do without MkII compatibility the most elegant solution may  
be to simply replace all instances of \~n with ñ,

e.g. co\~nazo -- coñazo.

Tom

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