[NTG-context] First and last lines on a grid
Dear all,
I'm having a little trouble with grids and page layout…
I'm trying to align the first and last line of a page properly with the frame
of the textblock. That is, I'd like to position the first baseline a certain
distance below the textblock's upper border (say, the height of a C or even
É) and the last baseline a certain distance above the textblock's lower
border (say, the actual depth of a g).
How would I do that? I tried playing with \setupinterlinespace, however, its
options top and bottom appear to set relative distances. Once I change the
leading funny things happen… like an empty first line.
Also I'd like to typeset the page number flush with the lower border of the
footer frame. How would I achieve that?
Please find the source code of my attempt below.
Oliver
---
\definemeasure
[gridwidth]
[\dimexpr\paperwidth/9\relax]
\definemeasure
[gridheight]
[\dimexpr\paperheight/9\relax]
\setuplayout
[grid=yes,
backspace=\measure{gridwidth},
width=\dimexpr6\measure{gridwidth}\relax,
topspace=\measure{gridheight},
height=\dimexpr7\measure{gridheight}\relax,
leftmargin=\zeropoint,
rightmargin=\zeropoint,
header=\zeropoint,
footer=\measure{gridheight}]
\setupinterlinespace
[line=\dimexpr\textheight/20\relax]
\setuppagenumbering
[alternative=doublesided,
location={footer,right}]
\starttext
\showframe
\showgrid
É
\dorecurse{10}{\input zapf\par}
\stoptext
---
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Re: [NTG-context] First and last lines on a grid
Am 22.04.2011 um 14:04 schrieb Oliver Buerschaper: Also I'd like to typeset the page number flush with the lower border of the footer frame. How would I achieve that? \setuppagenumbering[strut=no] Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] First and last lines on a grid
Also I'd like to typeset the page number flush with the lower border of the footer frame. How would I achieve that? \setuppagenumbering[strut=no] That's wonderful! Any idea about the other thing? Thanks, Oliver ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] First and last lines on a grid
Also I'd like to typeset the page number flush with the lower border of the footer frame. How would I achieve that? \setuppagenumbering[strut=no] I just realized that when I use oldstyle figures any pagenumber with a descender is bumped upwards a little. Is there a way to have them protrude (vertically) beyond the frame border? Oliver ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] First and last lines on a grid
Am 22.04.2011 um 19:32 schrieb Oliver Buerschaper:
Also I'd like to typeset the page number flush with the lower border of the
footer frame. How would I achieve that?
\setuppagenumbering[strut=no]
I just realized that when I use oldstyle figures any pagenumber with a
descender is bumped upwards a little. Is there a way to have them protrude
(vertically) beyond the frame border?
This should do the trick:
\define[1]\PagenumberCommand
{\smash[d]{#1}}
\setuppagenumbering
[ strut=no,
command=\PagenumberCommand]
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] First and last lines on a grid
I just realized that when I use oldstyle figures any pagenumber with a
descender is bumped upwards a little. Is there a way to have them protrude
(vertically) beyond the frame border?
This should do the trick:
\define[1]\PagenumberCommand
{\smash[d]{#1}}
\setuppagenumbering
[ strut=no,
command=\PagenumberCommand]
And how well it does it!
Thanks,
Oliver
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Re: [NTG-context] Grid typesetting and inline math
Are there any other suggestions? I did read the manual chapter about
grids and details.pdf and don't know what I'm doing wrong. In fact, I
don't even understand the examples in the manual chapter. When reading
the example code, I can't figure out how it leads to the shown behavior,
and why the shown effect is desired.
The \startlinecorrection ... \stoplinecorrection description in the wiki
is also no help. What does it do and how does it differ from a globally
enabled grid?
Regards,
Christoph
Am 20.04.2011 12:31, schrieb Christoph Redecker:
Thanks for the suggestion!
With grid=on, I get a different result, but it's not better. Code:
Testing inline math: \gform{x_2 = \sqrt{\frac{a}{b_2}}}. The following
line should be seperated from this one with half a line, but it isn't.
In this case, there is no space and the root sign reaches deeply into
the following line.
Regards,
Christoph
Am 20.04.2011 11:56, schrieb Khaled Hosny:
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:59:34AM +0200, Christoph Redecker wrote:
Hello,
I'm struggling with the grid. I've stepped from LaTeX to luaLaTeX
for a simpler font selection, and from luaLaTeX to ConTeXt for
getting a usable grid (because I was told that it supports
typesetting on a grid). Now that I got font selection working as
desired in ConTeXt, the grid is driving me crazy.
I'm trying to use the grid as described in details.pdf, and I want
halfline spacing around formulas in text, because a full line is
definitely too much. This is what I'm compiling:
\setupbodyfont[10pt,serif] % should be lm?
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\setuptextformulas[step=halfline]
\starttext
\showgrid
Testing inline math: \gform{x_2 = \frac{a}{b}}. The following line
should be seperated from this one by half a line, but it isn't.
Testing inline math: \gform[-]{x_2 = \frac{a}{b}}. The following
line should be seperated from this one by half a line, but it isn't.
\stoptext
Both paragraphs look identical, the second line is too far away from
the first one. What's wrong with my code?
Not sure, but try grid=on.
Regards,
Khaled
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[NTG-context] Grid typesetting and inline math
Hello,
I'm struggling with the grid. I've stepped from LaTeX to luaLaTeX for a
simpler font selection, and from luaLaTeX to ConTeXt for getting a
usable grid (because I was told that it supports typesetting on a grid).
Now that I got font selection working as desired in ConTeXt, the grid is
driving me crazy.
I'm trying to use the grid as described in details.pdf, and I want
halfline spacing around formulas in text, because a full line is
definitely too much. This is what I'm compiling:
\setupbodyfont[10pt,serif] % should be lm?
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\setuptextformulas[step=halfline]
\starttext
\showgrid
Testing inline math: \gform{x_2 = \frac{a}{b}}. The following line
should be seperated from this one by half a line, but it isn't.
Testing inline math: \gform[-]{x_2 = \frac{a}{b}}. The following line
should be seperated from this one by half a line, but it isn't.
\stoptext
Both paragraphs look identical, the second line is too far away from the
first one. What's wrong with my code?
Also, how can I manually depart from the grid, e.g. for block quotes?
Regards,
Christoph
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Re: [NTG-context] Grid typesetting and inline math
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:59:34AM +0200, Christoph Redecker wrote:
Hello,
I'm struggling with the grid. I've stepped from LaTeX to luaLaTeX
for a simpler font selection, and from luaLaTeX to ConTeXt for
getting a usable grid (because I was told that it supports
typesetting on a grid). Now that I got font selection working as
desired in ConTeXt, the grid is driving me crazy.
I'm trying to use the grid as described in details.pdf, and I want
halfline spacing around formulas in text, because a full line is
definitely too much. This is what I'm compiling:
\setupbodyfont[10pt,serif] % should be lm?
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\setuptextformulas[step=halfline]
\starttext
\showgrid
Testing inline math: \gform{x_2 = \frac{a}{b}}. The following line
should be seperated from this one by half a line, but it isn't.
Testing inline math: \gform[-]{x_2 = \frac{a}{b}}. The following
line should be seperated from this one by half a line, but it isn't.
\stoptext
Both paragraphs look identical, the second line is too far away from
the first one. What's wrong with my code?
Not sure, but try grid=on.
Regards,
Khaled
--
Khaled Hosny
Egyptian
Arab
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Re: [NTG-context] Grid typesetting and inline math
Thanks for the suggestion!
With grid=on, I get a different result, but it's not better. Code:
Testing inline math: \gform{x_2 = \sqrt{\frac{a}{b_2}}}. The following
line should be seperated from this one with half a line, but it isn't.
In this case, there is no space and the root sign reaches deeply into
the following line.
Regards,
Christoph
Am 20.04.2011 11:56, schrieb Khaled Hosny:
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:59:34AM +0200, Christoph Redecker wrote:
Hello,
I'm struggling with the grid. I've stepped from LaTeX to luaLaTeX
for a simpler font selection, and from luaLaTeX to ConTeXt for
getting a usable grid (because I was told that it supports
typesetting on a grid). Now that I got font selection working as
desired in ConTeXt, the grid is driving me crazy.
I'm trying to use the grid as described in details.pdf, and I want
halfline spacing around formulas in text, because a full line is
definitely too much. This is what I'm compiling:
\setupbodyfont[10pt,serif] % should be lm?
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\setuptextformulas[step=halfline]
\starttext
\showgrid
Testing inline math: \gform{x_2 = \frac{a}{b}}. The following line
should be seperated from this one by half a line, but it isn't.
Testing inline math: \gform[-]{x_2 = \frac{a}{b}}. The following
line should be seperated from this one by half a line, but it isn't.
\stoptext
Both paragraphs look identical, the second line is too far away from
the first one. What's wrong with my code?
Not sure, but try grid=on.
Regards,
Khaled
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[NTG-context] Defining new head grid problem
The code below prints out the word Text: in bold and then follows with the
text. However, if I turn the grid on (as is coded below), the first line of
the paragraph is printed, followed by a blank line, followed by the
remaining text. The blank line after the first line should not be there.
If I don't use the grid, I don't get the extra blank line.
Is something broken (I'm using the latest beta), or am I doing something
wrong?
Thanks,
Bart
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\definehead[paragraph][subsubsubject]
\setuphead[paragraph][
alternative=text,
style=bold]
\starttext
\paragraph{Text: } \input knuth
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Defining new head grid problem
Am 19.03.2011 um 12:57 schrieb Bart Wise:
The code below prints out the word Text: in bold and then follows with the
text. However, if I turn the grid on (as is coded below), the first line of
the paragraph is printed, followed by a blank line, followed by the remaining
text. The blank line after the first line should not be there. If I don't
use the grid, I don't get the extra blank line.
Is something broken (I'm using the latest beta), or am I doing something
wrong?
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\definehead[paragraph][subsubsubject]
\setuphead
[paragraph]
[strut=no,
textcommand=\groupedcommand{}{:},
alternative=text,
style=bold]
\starttext
\paragraph{Text} \input knuth
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Defining new head grid problem
Wolfgang,
Works great. Thanks!
Bart
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Wolfgang Schuster
schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am 19.03.2011 um 12:57 schrieb Bart Wise:
The code below prints out the word Text: in bold and then follows with
the text. However, if I turn the grid on (as is coded below), the first
line of the paragraph is printed, followed by a blank line, followed by the
remaining text. The blank line after the first line should not be there.
If I don't use the grid, I don't get the extra blank line.
Is something broken (I'm using the latest beta), or am I doing something
wrong?
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\definehead[paragraph][subsubsubject]
\setuphead
[paragraph]
[strut=no,
textcommand=\groupedcommand{}{:},
alternative=text,
style=bold]
\starttext
\paragraph{Text} \input knuth
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Problem with typing to the grid
Hello ConTeXist,
Is there a way to achieve alignment all of texts in a grid lines?
The attached example shows, that inserting of picture violate fixed
spacing inside the \startframedtext \stopframedtext environment (on left
on line 22 ) and final sequel of the text is not right too. (from line 25)
It's way at some point the rate of return text back to the grid?
Or it is necessary to determine the amount of Figures to match multiples
of \lineheight?
Thanx Jaroslav
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\starttext
\input tufte
\placefigure[here,none]{}
\startframedtext[width=13cm, offset=none]
\startsimplecolumns
Sed congue quis porta senectus Proin hendrerit platea In at Vivamus.
Lorem lacus dolor orci wisi faucibus iaculis in ut nibh sit faucibus
iaculis in.
\externalfigure[myfig][width=4cm, height=2.3cm, frame=on]
Pretium lacinia sapien vel vitae eget tempus natoque lacinia convallis
ultrices.
Pretium lacinia sapien vel vitae eget tempus natoque lacinia convallis
ultrices. Tellus libero ultrices Ut lacus tincidunt euismod nulla
ultrices faucibus leo.
Pretium lacinia sapien vel vitae eget tempus natoque lacinia convallis
ultrices.
Pretium lacinia sapien vel vitae eget tempus natoque lacinia convallis
ultrices.
\stopsimplecolumns
\stopframedtext
\input tufte
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] delimitedtext, spacebefore and grid
Not sure if there are side effects but this works (requires mkiv and a recent
installation):
\setuplayout[grid=yes]\showgrid
\setupbodyfont[14pt]
\usemodule[annotation]
\define[2]\ZitatCommand
{\topskip\dimexpr\topskip+\lineheight/2\relax
\startnarrower
“#2”%
\stopnarrower}
\defineannotation
[zitat]
[alternative=command,
command=\ZitatCommand,
spacebefore=halfline,
spaceafter=halfline]
\starttext
\startzitat
\input tufte
\stopzitat
\dorecurse{2}{\input tufte\par}
\startzitat
\input tufte
\stopzitat
\dorecurse{3}{\input tufte\par}
\startzitat
\input tufte
\stopzitat
\input tufte
\stoptext
Indeed, this solves the grid issue for block quotations broken across pages.
Many thanks!
Unfortunately introducing a \blank just before the last \input tufte in the
above example breaks grid alignment.
Oliver
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Re: [NTG-context] delimitedtext, spacebefore and grid
Am 14.02.2011 um 12:20 schrieb Oliver Buerschaper: Unfortunately introducing a \blank just before the last \input tufte in the above example breaks grid alignment. The afterspace-value from \stopzitat is ignored with your \blank and you get only one empty line while you need one and a half (one from the \blank command and a half from \stopzitat). Nevertheless you can force the correct value with \blank[halfline,line] Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] delimitedtext, spacebefore and grid
Unfortunately introducing a \blank just before the last \input tufte in the above example breaks grid alignment. The afterspace-value from \stopzitat is ignored with your \blank and you get only one empty line while you need one and a half (one from the \blank command and a half from \stopzitat). Nevertheless you can force the correct value with \blank[halfline,line] Sure, that's a good workaround. In the long run would it be possible in grid mode to have \blank insert 1+x lines of vertical space where x is adjusted such that the following material is aligned on the grid? Oliver ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] delimitedtext, spacebefore and grid
In the long run would it be possible in grid mode to have \blank insert 1+x lines of vertical space where x is adjusted such that the following material is aligned on the grid? … or simply make it not swallow the previous halfline correction from the quotation? Oliver ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] delimitedtext, spacebefore and grid
Am 14.02.2011 um 18:18 schrieb Oliver Buerschaper: In the long run would it be possible in grid mode to have \blank insert 1+x lines of vertical space where x is adjusted such that the following material is aligned on the grid? … or simply make it not swallow the previous halfline correction from the quotation? Took me a while but this does what you want: \blank[line,category:4] Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] delimitedtext, spacebefore and grid
Am 12.02.2011 um 08:47 schrieb Oliver Buerschaper:
Just wanted to ask whether anyone has looked into these issues… a solution
would be much appreciated (and put to immediate use in a current project ;-)
Not sure if there are side effects but this works (requires mkiv and a recent
installation):
\setuplayout[grid=yes]\showgrid
\setupbodyfont[14pt]
\usemodule[annotation]
\define[2]\ZitatCommand
{\topskip\dimexpr\topskip+\lineheight/2\relax
\startnarrower
“#2”%
\stopnarrower}
\defineannotation
[zitat]
[alternative=command,
command=\ZitatCommand,
spacebefore=halfline,
spaceafter=halfline]
\starttext
\startzitat
\input tufte
\stopzitat
\dorecurse{2}{\input tufte\par}
\startzitat
\input tufte
\stopzitat
\dorecurse{3}{\input tufte\par}
\startzitat
\input tufte
\stopzitat
\input tufte
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] grid=verytolerant causes overlapping
Hi all,
if one sets the grid option to verytolerant the list entries overlap. Is this a
but or did I miss something?
\setuppapersize[A5][A5]
% \setuplayout[grid=yes] % OK
% \setuplayout[grid=tolerant] % OK
\setuplayout[grid=verytolerant] % - overlapping
\setupheads[expansion=yes]
\starttext \showgrid
\placelist[chapter,section,subsection,subsubsection]
\def\SampleHead{\dorecurse{10}{test } test}
\dorecurse
{5}
{\chapter{\SampleHead}
\section{\SampleHead}
\subsection{\SampleHead}
\subsubsection{\SampleHead}}
\stoptext
Greeting
Andreas
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Re: [NTG-context] grid=verytolerant causes overlapping
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Andreas Harder
andreas.har...@rz-online.de wrote:
Hi all,
if one sets the grid option to verytolerant the list entries overlap. Is this
a but or did I miss something?
\setuppapersize[A5][A5]
% \setuplayout[grid=yes] % OK
% \setuplayout[grid=tolerant] % OK
\setuplayout[grid=verytolerant] % - overlapping
\setupheads[expansion=yes]
\starttext \showgrid
\placelist[chapter,section,subsection,subsubsection]
\def\SampleHead{\dorecurse{10}{test } test}
\dorecurse
{5}
{\chapter{\SampleHead}
\section{\SampleHead}
\subsection{\SampleHead}
\subsubsection{\SampleHead}}
\stoptext
I don't see problems here with latest minimals --- what is wrong in your pdf ?
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Re: [NTG-context] grid=verytolerant causes overlapping
Am 11.02.2011 um 14:46 schrieb luigi sc
test-toc-on-grid.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
arso:
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Andreas Harder
andreas.har...@rz-online.de wrote:
Hi all,
if one sets the grid option to verytolerant the list entries overlap. Is
this a but or did I miss something?
\setuppapersize[A5][A5]
% \setuplayout[grid=yes] % OK
% \setuplayout[grid=tolerant] % OK
\setuplayout[grid=verytolerant] % - overlapping
\setupheads[expansion=yes]
\starttext \showgrid
\placelist[chapter,section,subsection,subsubsection]
\def\SampleHead{\dorecurse{10}{test } test}
\dorecurse
{5}
{\chapter{\SampleHead}
\section{\SampleHead}
\subsection{\SampleHead}
\subsubsection{\SampleHead}}
\stoptext
I don't see problems here with latest minimals --- what is wrong in your pdf ?
Hmm, I've just updated the beta …
test-toc-on-grid.pdf
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Re: [NTG-context] grid=verytolerant causes overlapping
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Andreas Harder ahar...@uni-koblenz.de wrote:
Am 11.02.2011 um 14:46 schrieb luigi sc
arso:
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Andreas Harder
andreas.har...@rz-online.de wrote:
Hi all,
if one sets the grid option to verytolerant the list entries overlap. Is
this a but or did I miss something?
\setuppapersize[A5][A5]
% \setuplayout[grid=yes] % OK
% \setuplayout[grid=tolerant] % OK
\setuplayout[grid=verytolerant] % - overlapping
\setupheads[expansion=yes]
\starttext \showgrid
\placelist[chapter,section,subsection,subsubsection]
\def\SampleHead{\dorecurse{10}{test } test}
\dorecurse
{5}
{\chapter{\SampleHead}
\section{\SampleHead}
\subsection{\SampleHead}
\subsubsection{\SampleHead}}
\stoptext
I don't see problems here with latest minimals --- what is wrong in your pdf
?
Hmm, I've just updated the beta …
this is my pdf
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Re: [NTG-context] grid=verytolerant causes overlapping
Am 11.02.2011 um 15:08 schrieb luigi scarso:
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Andreas Harder ahar...@uni-koblenz.de
wrote:
Am 11.02.2011 um 14:46 schrieb luigi sc
arso:
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Andreas Harder
andreas.har...@rz-online.de wrote:
Hi all,
if one sets the grid option to verytolerant the list entries overlap. Is
this a but or did I miss something?
\setuppapersize[A5][A5]
% \setuplayout[grid=yes] % OK
% \setuplayout[grid=tolerant] % OK
\setuplayout[grid=verytolerant] % - overlapping
\setupheads[expansion=yes]
\starttext \showgrid
\placelist[chapter,section,subsection,subsubsection]
\def\SampleHead{\dorecurse{10}{test } test}
\dorecurse
{5}
{\chapter{\SampleHead}
\section{\SampleHead}
\subsection{\SampleHead}
\subsubsection{\SampleHead}}
\stoptext
I don't see problems here with latest minimals --- what is wrong in your
pdf ?
Hmm, I've just updated the beta …
this is my pdf
You have commented the paper size setting, therefore the lines do not break.
Otherwise in your pdf nothing is on grid, although you're using the same
minimals …
I've changed the example a bit:
\setuplayout[grid=verytolerant] % - overlapping
\setupheads[expansion=yes]
\starttext \showgrid
\placelist[chapter,section,subsection,subsubsection]
\def\SampleHead{\dorecurse{15}{test } test}
\dorecurse
{5}
{\chapter{\SampleHead}
\section{\SampleHead}
\subsection{\SampleHead}
\subsubsection{\SampleHead}}
\stoptext
Andreas
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Re: [NTG-context] grid=verytolerant causes overlapping
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Andreas Harder ahar...@uni-koblenz.de wrote:
Am 11.02.2011 um 15:08 schrieb luigi scarso:
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Andreas Harder ahar...@uni-koblenz.de
wrote:
Am 11.02.2011 um 14:46 schrieb luigi sc
arso:
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Andreas Harder
andreas.har...@rz-online.de wrote:
Hi all,
if one sets the grid option to verytolerant the list entries overlap. Is
this a but or did I miss something?
\setuppapersize[A5][A5]
% \setuplayout[grid=yes] % OK
% \setuplayout[grid=tolerant] % OK
\setuplayout[grid=verytolerant] % - overlapping
\setupheads[expansion=yes]
\starttext \showgrid
\placelist[chapter,section,subsection,subsubsection]
\def\SampleHead{\dorecurse{10}{test } test}
\dorecurse
{5}
{\chapter{\SampleHead}
\section{\SampleHead}
\subsection{\SampleHead}
\subsubsection{\SampleHead}}
\stoptext
I don't see problems here with latest minimals --- what is wrong in your
pdf ?
Hmm, I've just updated the beta …
this is my pdf
You have commented the paper size setting, therefore the lines do not break.
Otherwise in your pdf nothing is on grid, although you're using the same
minimals …
true sorry.
I've changed the example a bit:
\setuplayout[grid=verytolerant] % - overlapping
\setupheads[expansion=yes]
\starttext \showgrid
\placelist[chapter,section,subsection,subsubsection]
\def\SampleHead{\dorecurse{15}{test } test}
\dorecurse
{5}
{\chapter{\SampleHead}
\section{\SampleHead}
\subsection{\SampleHead}
\subsubsection{\SampleHead}}
\stoptext
same here: both examples show overlapping.
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Re: [NTG-context] grid=verytolerant causes overlapping
Am 11.02.2011 um 14:33 schrieb Andreas Harder: Hi all, if one sets the grid option to verytolerant the list entries overlap. Is this a but or did I miss something? \setuppapersize[A5][A5] % \setuplayout[grid=yes] % OK % \setuplayout[grid=tolerant] % OK \setuplayout[grid=verytolerant] % - overlapping There is no grid option “verytolerant”. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] grid=verytolerant causes overlapping
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 11.02.2011 um 14:33 schrieb Andreas Harder: Hi all, if one sets the grid option to verytolerant the list entries overlap. Is this a but or did I miss something? \setuppapersize[A5][A5] % \setuplayout[grid=yes] % OK % \setuplayout[grid=tolerant] % OK \setuplayout[grid=verytolerant] % - overlapping There is no grid option “verytolerant”. true, the same with \setuplayout[grid=ztolerant] If I recall correctly there a way to see the in the log. -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] grid=verytolerant causes overlapping
Am 11.02.2011 um 15:32 schrieb luigi scarso:
There is no grid option “verytolerant”.
true, the same with
\setuplayout[grid=ztolerant]
If I recall correctly there a way to see the in the log.
Depends on the commands, sometimes the value is checked but no with
gridsnapping.
The “yes” value is defined as
\definegridsnapping[yes][maxheight,maxdepth,strut]
and you enable with with “grid=yes” a where context tests if “yes”
is a predefined lists but “grid={maxheight,maxdepth,strut}” is also
valid and in this case context defined a dummy list which is passed
to lua. The same happens with “verytolerant”, context creates
a dummy list and use ”verytolerant” as value for this list.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] grid=verytolerant causes overlapping
Am 11.02.2011 um 15:55 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
Am 11.02.2011 um 15:32 schrieb luigi scarso:
There is no grid option “verytolerant”.
true, the same with
\setuplayout[grid=ztolerant]
If I recall correctly there a way to see the in the log.
Depends on the commands, sometimes the value is checked but no with
gridsnapping.
The “yes” value is defined as
\definegridsnapping[yes][maxheight,maxdepth,strut]
and you enable with with “grid=yes” a where context tests if “yes”
is a predefined lists but “grid={maxheight,maxdepth,strut}” is also
valid and in this case context defined a dummy list which is passed
to lua. The same happens with “verytolerant”, context creates
a dummy list and use ”verytolerant” as value for this list.
Thank you Wolfgang!
Now I've defined verytolerant in order to get some fractions on grid.
\definegridsnapping[verytolerant][maxdepth:1.6,maxheight:1.4,strut]
\setuplayout[grid=verytolerant]
% \setuplayout[grid=tolerant]
\setupbodyfont[palatino]
\starttext
test\crlf
$b = \frac p q$\crlf
test
\stoptext
Andreas
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Re: [NTG-context] delimitedtext, spacebefore and grid
I want to have both a halfline space before and after blockquotations.
Normally, this works fine; after the quotation the main text snaps
back to the grid (see page 3 of the example file).
\setupdelimitedtext
[blockquote]
[spacebefore=halfline]
spacebefore={force,halfline}
Hello Wolfgang, thank you for your answer. Sadly, your solution only
works for blockquotes starting at the top of the page. When blockquotes
are broken up between two pages the main text doesn't find its way back
to the grid (see page 2 of my minimal example).
I think I've discovered another little problem of the same sort if directly
after the quotation a blank line is requested:
---
\setuplayout
[grid=yes]
\setupdelimitedtext
[quotation]
[spacebefore=halfline]
\showgrid
\starttext
\input tufte
\startquotation
\input tufte
\stopquotation
\blank
\input tufte
\stoptext
---
Unfortunately the trailing main text doesn't align with the grid either. Any
solution to both problems?
Just wanted to ask whether anyone has looked into these issues… a solution
would be much appreciated (and put to immediate use in a current project ;-)
Oliver
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Re: [NTG-context] delimitedtext, spacebefore and grid
I want to have both a halfline space before and after blockquotations.
Normally, this works fine; after the quotation the main text snaps
back to the grid (see page 3 of the example file).
\setupdelimitedtext
[blockquote]
[spacebefore=halfline]
spacebefore={force,halfline}
Hello Wolfgang, thank you for your answer. Sadly, your solution only
works for blockquotes starting at the top of the page. When blockquotes
are broken up between two pages the main text doesn't find its way back
to the grid (see page 2 of my minimal example).
I think I've discovered another little problem of the same sort if directly
after the quotation a blank line is requested:
---
\setuplayout
[grid=yes]
\setupdelimitedtext
[quotation]
[spacebefore=halfline]
\showgrid
\starttext
\input tufte
\startquotation
\input tufte
\stopquotation
\blank
\input tufte
\stoptext
---
Unfortunately the trailing main text doesn't align with the grid either. Any
solution to both problems?
Best wishes,
Oliver
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[NTG-context] delimitedtext, spacebefore and grid
Hello,
I want to have both a halfline space before and after blockquotations.
Normally, this works fine; after the quotation the main text snaps
back to the grid (see page 3 of the example file).
\setupdelimitedtext
[blockquote]
[spacebefore=halfline]
However, this fails when the blockquote is the first element on the
page, either because a new blockquote starts on the top of the page
(cf. p. 1) or because a blockquote continues from the last page
(cf. p. 2). Is it possible to tell ConTeXt to insert a halfline of
space on the top of the page in these cases?
TIA,
olli
\setuppapersize[a5][A4]
\setuplayout[location=middle,marking=on,grid=yes]
\setupbodyfont[14pt]
\setupdelimitedtext
[blockquote]
[spacebefore=halfline]
\showgrid
\starttext
\startblockquote
\input tufte
\stopblockquote
\dorecurse{2}{\input tufte}
\startblockquote
\input tufte
\stopblockquote
\dorecurse{3}{\input tufte}
\startblockquote
\input tufte
\stopblockquote
\input tufte
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] delimitedtext, spacebefore and grid
Am 20.01.2011 um 17:04 schrieb Oliver Heins:
Hello,
I want to have both a halfline space before and after blockquotations.
Normally, this works fine; after the quotation the main text snaps
back to the grid (see page 3 of the example file).
\setupdelimitedtext
[blockquote]
[spacebefore=halfline]
spacebefore={force,halfline}
[…]
\setuppapersize[a5][A4]
\setuppapersize[A5][A4]
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Re: [NTG-context] delimitedtext, spacebefore and grid
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com writes:
Am 20.01.2011 um 17:04 schrieb Oliver Heins:
Hello,
I want to have both a halfline space before and after blockquotations.
Normally, this works fine; after the quotation the main text snaps
back to the grid (see page 3 of the example file).
\setupdelimitedtext
[blockquote]
[spacebefore=halfline]
spacebefore={force,halfline}
Hello Wolfgang, thank you for your answer. Sadly, your solution only
works for blockquotes starting at the top of the page. When blockquotes
are broken up between two pages the main text doesn't find its way back
to the grid (see page 2 of my minimal example).
Another point is: The space inserted at the top of the page is not a
half line big but of one and a half line.
[…]
\setuppapersize[a5][A4]
\setuppapersize[A5][A4]
Thanks, it was a typo. I already wondered about how huge an A5-sized
page in ConTeXt is :) However, the setup of my minimal example
illustrates the problems best on A4, so *here* it should read either
\setuppapersize[A4] or nothing (since A4 seems to be the default
anyway).
Best regards,
olli
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Re: [NTG-context] \startquotation, grid and footnote
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com writes:
\mainlanguage[de]
\setuplanguage[de][leftquotation=\rightguillemot,rightquotation=\leftguillemot]
With MkIV you can just write
\setuplanguage[de][leftquotation=»,rightquotation=«]
\setupquotation[
before={\startlinecorrection[blank]\noindentation},
after={\stoplinecorrection},
style=\tfx]
\setupdelimitedtext
[blockquote]
[spacebefore=line,
style=\tfx]
[…]
\startquotation
\getbuffer[quot]\footnote{foobar}
\stopquotation
\startblockquote
…
\stopblockquote
Thank you Wolfgang,
it works.
Best regards,
olli
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[NTG-context] \startquotation, grid and footnote
Hello,
I have to typeset paragraphed quotations in a smaller font (and maybe
a smaller baselineskip, but this is not necessary) and with larger
margins. However, after the quotation, the main text has to be on the
grid again.
Main Text Main Text
Main Text (on grid)
Main Text Main Text
Main Text (on grid)
Main Text Main Text
quotation text
(need not to be
on grid, in a
smaller font)
quotation text
Main Text Main Text
Main Text (on grid)
Main Text Main Text
Main Text (on grid)
Main Text Main Text
I tried to use contexts quotation-mechanism, but it puts quotationmarks
around the quotation, which is not only unnecessary (as the smaller font
size marks the paragraph as a quotation already), but a problem, because
footnotemarks appear right in front of the ending quotation mark
(»quot¹« instead of »quot«¹, which would be right).
Footnotes seem to be a bigger problem. When using the linecorrection
mechanism (either with \start|\stoplinecorrection and with
\placeongrid), the footnotetexts don't get typeset at all. They seem to
get lost within the linecorrection environment.
TIA for your help,
olli
\setuppapersize[A5][A4]
\setuplayout[location=middle,
marking=on,
offset=0mm,
grid=yes,
]
\mainlanguage[de]
\setuplanguage[de][leftquotation=\rightguillemot,rightquotation=\leftguillemot]
\setupquotation[
before={\startlinecorrection[blank]\noindentation},
after={\stoplinecorrection},
style=\tfx]
\def\begquote{%
\placeongrid[low]\bgroup
\rightskip=10mm \leftskip=10mm \baselineskip=13pt
\blank[small]
\noindentation\small
}
\def\endquote{%
\blank[small]
\egroup
}
\startbuffer[quot]
Ein autobiografischer Spielfilm ohne Bekenntnis des Regisseurs und
ohne dessen Verkörperung einer Figur wird nur als fiktionale
Biografie verstanden. Ein autobiografischer Spielfilm ohne
Bekenntnis des Regisseurs, aber mit dessen Verkörperung einer
fiktionalen Figur wird zumindest selbstreflexiv gedeutet.
\stopbuffer
\showgrid
\starttext
\input tufte
\startquotation
\getbuffer[quot]\footnote{foobar}
\stopquotation
\input tufte
\begquote
\getbuffer[quot]\footnote{barbaz}
\endquote
\input tufte
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] \startquotation, grid and footnote
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Re: [NTG-context] \startquotation, grid and footnote
Am 15.01.2011 um 11:44 schrieb Oliver Heins:
Hello,
I have to typeset paragraphed quotations in a smaller font (and maybe
a smaller baselineskip, but this is not necessary) and with larger
margins. However, after the quotation, the main text has to be on the
grid again.
Main Text Main Text
Main Text (on grid)
Main Text Main Text
Main Text (on grid)
Main Text Main Text
quotation text
(need not to be
on grid, in a
smaller font)
quotation text
Main Text Main Text
Main Text (on grid)
Main Text Main Text
Main Text (on grid)
Main Text Main Text
I tried to use contexts quotation-mechanism, but it puts quotationmarks
around the quotation, which is not only unnecessary (as the smaller font
size marks the paragraph as a quotation already), but a problem, because
footnotemarks appear right in front of the ending quotation mark
(»quot¹« instead of »quot«¹, which would be right).
Footnotes seem to be a bigger problem. When using the linecorrection
mechanism (either with \start|\stoplinecorrection and with
\placeongrid), the footnotetexts don't get typeset at all. They seem to
get lost within the linecorrection environment.
TIA for your help,
olli
\setuppapersize[A5][A4]
\setuplayout[location=middle,
marking=on,
offset=0mm,
grid=yes,
]
\mainlanguage[de]
\setuplanguage[de][leftquotation=\rightguillemot,rightquotation=\leftguillemot]
With MkIV you can just write
\setuplanguage[de][leftquotation=»,rightquotation=«]
\setupquotation[
before={\startlinecorrection[blank]\noindentation},
after={\stoplinecorrection},
style=\tfx]
\setupdelimitedtext
[blockquote]
[spacebefore=line,
style=\tfx]
[…]
\startquotation
\getbuffer[quot]\footnote{foobar}
\stopquotation
\startblockquote
…
\stopblockquote
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] heading in margin + grid
Dear fellow Contexters,
there are some subheadings I’d like to place in the margin
approximately like that:
···8
\def\text{knuth}
\setuplayout[grid=yes] \showgrid
\setuphead[section][
%grid=yes,
style={\tf\bf\color[red]},
command=\placeheadinmargin,
before=,after=,
]
\setupwhitespace[none]
\def\placeheadinmargin#1#2{%
%\margintitle{#2}%
\margintitle{\raise-\baselineskip\hbox{#2}}% needed with grid
}
\starttext
\dorecurse{10}{%
\section{\text}
\input \text
\par
}
\stoptext
···8
Question is: how do I get rid of the empty line before the
heading? I thought I exhausted every possibility by unsetting the
‘after’ and ‘before’ keys and disabling interpar whitespace --
but not quite!
Thanks for any suggestions, Philipp
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Re: [NTG-context] heading in margin + grid
Am 21.11.2010 um 12:28 schrieb Philipp Gesang:
Dear fellow Contexters,
there are some subheadings I’d like to place in the margin
approximately like that:
\setuplayout[grid=yes]\showgrid
\define[2]\SectionCommand
{\inleftmargin{#2}}
\setuphead
[section]
[alternative=text,
style=bold,
color=red,
command=\SectionCommand,
distance=0pt,
before={\blank[nowhite]}]
\starttext
\dorecurse{10}
{\section{Knuth}
\input knuth\par}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] heading in margin + grid
On 2010-11-21 13:22:32, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 21.11.2010 um 12:28 schrieb Philipp Gesang:
Dear fellow Contexters,
there are some subheadings I’d like to place in the margin
approximately like that:
\setuplayout[grid=yes]\showgrid
\define[2]\SectionCommand
{\inleftmargin{#2}}
\setuphead
[section]
[alternative=text,
style=bold,
color=red,
command=\SectionCommand,
distance=0pt,
before={\blank[nowhite]}]
\starttext
\dorecurse{10}
{\section{Knuth}
\input knuth\par}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
Works like a charm, many, many thanks!
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Re: [NTG-context] Grid typesetting
On 10/23/2010 06:18 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
%\showgrid
\starttext
\title{Example texts}
\subject{Knuth}
\input knuth
\subject{Tufte}
\input tufte
\stoptext
Thank you very much. It worked.
This puzzled me a lot, as seemingly the same setup refused to work in my
document. Then I started to delete other preamble content step by step,
and the grid still didn't work after I removed all of it. Then I found
out that the grid option was not being read at all, because there was
a space character before the comma. My setuplayout looked like that:
\setuplayout[%%
width=105mm ,%%
height=162mm ,%%
backspace=20mm ,%%
topspace=18mm ,%%
header=0pt ,%%
footerdistance=5mm ,%%
footer=5mm ,%%
marking=off ,%%
location=doublesided,%%
veroffset=5mm ,%%
grid=yes ,%% space character ruins the option
margin=15mm ,%%
%top=5mm ,%%
]%%
When can I use a space like that, and I can't? I found out that also
some other options can't be followed by a space. Why is that?
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Re: [NTG-context] Grid typesetting
Am 30.10.2010 um 21:42 schrieb Andrzej Orłowski-Skoczyk:
On 10/23/2010 06:18 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
%\showgrid
\starttext
\title{Example texts}
\subject{Knuth}
\input knuth
\subject{Tufte}
\input tufte
\stoptext
Thank you very much. It worked.
This puzzled me a lot, as seemingly the same setup refused to work in my
document. Then I started to delete other preamble content step by step,
and the grid still didn't work after I removed all of it. Then I found
out that the grid option was not being read at all, because there was
a space character before the comma. My setuplayout looked like that:
\setuplayout[%%
width=105mm ,%%
height=162mm ,%%
backspace=20mm ,%%
topspace=18mm ,%%
header=0pt ,%%
footerdistance=5mm ,%%
footer=5mm ,%%
marking=off ,%%
location=doublesided,%%
veroffset=5mm ,%%
grid=yes ,%% space character ruins the option
margin=15mm ,%%
%top=5mm ,%%
]%%
When can I use a space like that, and I can't? I found out that also
some other options can't be followed by a space. Why is that?
Space are only allowed before keys, in all other places a space is either a
space in the key or the value itself, in your case it works with the dimensions
because they are passed to normal tex dimension but never rely on this.
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Grid typesetting
Hello Contexters I've been typesetting (mainly books and reports) in LaTeX for ca 15 years now. Recently I got really fed up with various problems related to typesetting on grid in LaTeX, and this is how I learned about ConTeXt. You can't imagine how excited I was when I started reading about it, especially given my recent grid-related LaTeX frustrations. Now I'm past all the ConTeXt manuals available in English, but still with no practical experience. ConTeXt is still a wild animal to be tamed, for me, but with a lot of sex appeal. So - it's grid that attracted me. But I can't get it - the grid - in my test document. I find it hard to understand what the below commands (which are hardly documented) do: - placeongrid, - moveongrid, - start/stop|linecorrection and how is framed related to them. I experimented with various settings/combinations of the above, but none seem to actually FORCE my content on the grid. The explanation in the manual is not clear for me, there is no explanation in the Wikia. What I need is a way to FORCE a line of text onto nearest grid line available (so that baselines match), for example: - on page opening a chapter, so that all body text is forced on grid regardless of the amount of space taken by headers etc., - on any page, when the text is being interrupted by figures, tables, formulas or fancy breaks. Is there an easy way to accomplish that? By 'easy' I mean other than manual setting the height of headers/figures/tables/formulas/fancy breaks so that following text sits on the grid (which is more or less also doable in LaTeX). Thank you. -- Andrzej Orłowski-Skoczyk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Grid typesetting
Am 22.10.2010 um 21:59 schrieb Andrzej Orłowski-Skoczyk:
Hello Contexters
I've been typesetting (mainly books and reports) in LaTeX for ca 15 years
now. Recently I got really fed up with various problems related to
typesetting on grid in LaTeX, and this is how I learned about ConTeXt. You
can't imagine how excited I was when I started reading about it, especially
given my recent grid-related LaTeX frustrations. Now I'm past all the ConTeXt
manuals available in English, but still with no practical experience. ConTeXt
is still a wild animal to be tamed, for me, but with a lot of sex appeal.
So - it's grid that attracted me. But I can't get it - the grid - in my test
document. I find it hard to understand what the below commands (which are
hardly documented) do:
- placeongrid,
- moveongrid,
- start/stop|linecorrection
and how is framed related to them. I experimented with various
settings/combinations of the above, but none seem to actually FORCE my
content on the grid.
The explanation in the manual is not clear for me, there is no explanation in
the Wikia.
What I need is a way to FORCE a line of text onto nearest grid line available
(so that baselines match), for example:
- on page opening a chapter, so that all body text is forced on grid
regardless of the amount of space taken by headers etc.,
- on any page, when the text is being interrupted by figures, tables,
formulas or fancy breaks.
Is there an easy way to accomplish that? By 'easy' I mean other than manual
setting the height of headers/figures/tables/formulas/fancy breaks so that
following text sits on the grid (which is more or less also doable in LaTeX).
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
%\showgrid
\starttext
\title{Example texts}
\subject{Knuth}
\input knuth
\subject{Tufte}
\input tufte
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] placing a paragraph with non-standard interlinear spacing onto the grid
Dear all,
By way of further definition and clarification of the issue: back in the world
of LaTeX, I was kindly given the following code on CTT by Donald Arseneau to
produce the desired effect. Mind you, it was only meant to work with a
paragraph if the entire paragraph was on one page; it wouldn't work if split
across pages:
%%% Donald Arseneau’s Gridblock Environment %%%
% For placing paragraphs into a box, and that box then
% being placed on a “grid” of the baselineskip. This ensures
% that following paragraphs are also on the grid.
\makeatletter
\...@ifundefined{@tempdimc}{\newdim...@tempdimc}{}
\newenvironment{gridblock}{\par
\setb...@tempboxa\vtop\bgroup
}{\par\egroup
% measurements of top
\...@tempdima=\ht\@tempboxa
\...@tempdimc=\dp\@tempboxa
\ifd...@tempdima\ht\strutbox
\advan...@tempdimc\@tempdima
\...@tempdima=\ht\strutbox
\advan...@tempdimc-\@tempdima
\fi
% measurements of bottom
\setb...@tempboxa\vbox{\unvbox\@tempboxa}%
\ifdim\...@tempboxa\dp\strutbox
\...@tempdimb=\dp\strutbox
\else
\...@tempdimb=\dp\@tempboxa
\fi
\advan...@tempdimc-\@tempdimb
\...@tempcnta=\@tempdimc
\divi...@tempcnta\baselineskip
\advan...@tempdimc -...@tempcnta\baselineskip
\ifd...@tempdimc 2\vfuzz \advan...@tempdimc-\baselineskip \fi
\divi...@tempdimc\tw@
\vbox t...@tempdima{}%
\nobreak \nointerlineskip \ker...@tempdima \ker...@tempdimc \nobreak
\b...@tempboxa
\nobreak \nointerlineskip \ker...@tempdimb \ker...@tempdimc \nobreak
\hbox{\vrule height \z@ width \z@ depth \...@tempdimb}%
}
\makeatother
Seeing how systematised ConTeXt is, I'm assuming something much simpler could
probably be used to achieve the same effect?
Kind regards,
Talal
On 3 Oct 2010, at 20:10, Talal Al-Azem wrote:
By way of further definition and clarification of the issue: back in the
world of LaTeX, I was kindly given the following code on CTT by Donald
Arseneau to produce the desired effect. Mind you, it was only meant to work
with a paragraph if the entire paragraph was on one page; it wouldn't work if
split across pages:
%%% Donald Arseneau’s Gridblock Environment %%%
% For placing paragraphs into a box, and that box then
% being placed on a “grid” of the baselineskip. This ensures
% that following paragraphs are also on the grid.
\makeatletter
\...@ifundefined{@tempdimc}{\newdim...@tempdimc}{}
\newenvironment{gridblock}{\par
\setb...@tempboxa\vtop\bgroup
}{\par\egroup
% measurements of top
\...@tempdima=\ht\@tempboxa
\...@tempdimc=\dp\@tempboxa
\ifd...@tempdima\ht\strutbox
\advan...@tempdimc\@tempdima
\...@tempdima=\ht\strutbox
\advan...@tempdimc-\@tempdima
\fi
% measurements of bottom
\setb...@tempboxa\vbox{\unvbox\@tempboxa}%
\ifdim\...@tempboxa\dp\strutbox
\...@tempdimb=\dp\strutbox
\else
\...@tempdimb=\dp\@tempboxa
\fi
\advan...@tempdimc-\@tempdimb
\...@tempcnta=\@tempdimc
\divi...@tempcnta\baselineskip
\advan...@tempdimc -...@tempcnta\baselineskip
\ifd...@tempdimc 2\vfuzz \advan...@tempdimc-\baselineskip \fi
\divi...@tempdimc\tw@
\vbox t...@tempdima{}%
\nobreak \nointerlineskip \ker...@tempdima \ker...@tempdimc \nobreak
\b...@tempboxa
\nobreak \nointerlineskip \ker...@tempdimb \ker...@tempdimc \nobreak
\hbox{\vrule height \z@ width \z@ depth \...@tempdimb}%
}
\makeatother
Seeing how systematised ConTeXt is, I'm assuming something much simpler could
probably be used to achieve the same effect?
Kind regards,
Talal
On 2 Oct 2010, at 23:23, Talal Al-Azem wrote:
Dear all,
This is important for anyone working with mixed language (font) texts. In my
example, the overall document is Latin-based (e.g. English), with a
paragraph of Arabic text; I want this Arabic paragraph as a whole to fit
onto the grid (though obviously the individual Arabic lines of the paragraph
would not).
Currently, when I typeset an English paragraph, followed by an Arabic
paragraph, followed by an English paragraph, the second English paragraph is
no longer on the grid, having been throw off by the Arabic one. I'm looking
for some way to automatically calculate and fill in the vspace needed for
this.
This is not the same as the issue of an Arabic word or phrase (or mathematic
formula) being typeset in the midst of Latin text, as discussed
http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg46163.html. Having read a
few other matters on the mailing list (largely involving Idris and Hans),
I'm sure it's possible, but I can't figure it out.
Any help would be most appreciated.
Kind regards,
Talal
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Re: [NTG-context] placing a paragraph with non-standard interlinear spacing onto the grid
On 3-10-2010 9:14, Talal Al-Azem wrote: Dear all, By way of further definition and clarification of the issue: back in the world of LaTeX, I was kindly given the following code on CTT by Donald Arseneau to produce the desired effect. Mind you, it was only meant to work with a paragraph if the entire paragraph was on one page; it wouldn't work if split across pages: does \setulayout[grid=yes] give acceptable results? - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] placing a paragraph with non-standard interlinear spacing onto the grid
Am 03.10.2010 um 00:23 schrieb Talal Al-Azem: Dear all, This is important for anyone working with mixed language (font) texts. In my example, the overall document is Latin-based (e.g. English), with a paragraph of Arabic text; I want this Arabic paragraph as a whole to fit onto the grid (though obviously the individual Arabic lines of the paragraph would not). Currently, when I typeset an English paragraph, followed by an Arabic paragraph, followed by an English paragraph, the second English paragraph is no longer on the grid, having been throw off by the Arabic one. I'm looking for some way to automatically calculate and fill in the vspace needed for this. This is not the same as the issue of an Arabic word or phrase (or mathematic formula) being typeset in the midst of Latin text, as discussed http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg46163.html. Having read a few other matters on the mailing list (largely involving Idris and Hans), I'm sure it's possible, but I can't figure it out. Any help would be most appreciated. \setuplayout[grid=yes]\showgrid \starttext \input knuth \startbaselinecorrection\setupinterlinespace[line=3.6ex] \input knuth \stopbaselinecorrection \input knuth \stoptext Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] placing a paragraph with non-standard interlinear spacing onto the grid
Hello Hans and Wolfgang, Hans: Thanks for your reply. No, simply setting up the grid does not work. Because of the size of Arabic fonts relative to latin fonts, the Arabic paragraph naturally needs a bit more interlinear spacing; as such, I do not expect the paragraph to lineup on the grid (effectively, I am happy to treat it like one would a graphic or math equation). But in the English paragraph which follows, I would like the English paragraph to be realigned on the grid. BUT: it seems that Wolfgang's suggestion works well! (At least with my minimal example, which I've attached below). Thank you both so much. Amazing. I cannot express how impressed I am with ConTeXt at the moment, and how what used to require so much hacking in LaTeX (which I never could have come up with), and so many myriad packages, is all largely done from within ConTeXt itself! My last hurdle for shifting my work into ConTeXt remains the issue of the features needed for critical editions--most importantly the ability to key lemmas to line numbers; but that will be left to a dedicated email. Many thanks to you both again, and to all those who've played a role in the development of ConTeXt. :-) Kind regards, Talal testminimal.tex Description: Binary data testminimal.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document On 3 Oct 2010, at 20:50, Hans Hagen wrote: On 3-10-2010 9:14, Talal Al-Azem wrote: Dear all, By way of further definition and clarification of the issue: back in the world of LaTeX, I was kindly given the following code on CTT by Donald Arseneau to produce the desired effect. Mind you, it was only meant to work with a paragraph if the entire paragraph was on one page; it wouldn't work if split across pages: does \setulayout[grid=yes] give acceptable results? - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] placing a paragraph with non-standard interlinear spacing onto the grid
Dear Hans and Wolfgang (et al), Unfortunately, I think I may have spoken too soon, as I've run into a small problem. :-) Using Wolfgang's suggestion of baselinecorrection: \startbaselinecorrection\setupinterlinespace[line=5ex] ... \stopbaselinecorrection I can no longer get footnotes which are in the Arabic paragraph to work. The footnote marker in the text shows up; but that particular footnote does not show at the bottom of the page, though a footnote from text outside of that paragraph do show, with their correct numbering. See attachments for an example. Kind regards, Talal testminimal.tex Description: Binary data testminimal.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document On 3 Oct 2010, at 22:47, Talal Al-Azem wrote: Hello Hans and Wolfgang, Hans: Thanks for your reply. No, simply setting up the grid does not work. Because of the size of Arabic fonts relative to latin fonts, the Arabic paragraph naturally needs a bit more interlinear spacing; as such, I do not expect the paragraph to lineup on the grid (effectively, I am happy to treat it like one would a graphic or math equation). But in the English paragraph which follows, I would like the English paragraph to be realigned on the grid. BUT: it seems that Wolfgang's suggestion works well! (At least with my minimal example, which I've attached below). Thank you both so much. Amazing. I cannot express how impressed I am with ConTeXt at the moment, and how what used to require so much hacking in LaTeX (which I never could have come up with), and so many myriad packages, is all largely done from within ConTeXt itself! My last hurdle for shifting my work into ConTeXt remains the issue of the features needed for critical editions--most importantly the ability to key lemmas to line numbers; but that will be left to a dedicated email. Many thanks to you both again, and to all those who've played a role in the development of ConTeXt. :-) Kind regards, Talal testminimal.textestminimal.pdf On 3 Oct 2010, at 20:50, Hans Hagen wrote: On 3-10-2010 9:14, Talal Al-Azem wrote: Dear all, By way of further definition and clarification of the issue: back in the world of LaTeX, I was kindly given the following code on CTT by Donald Arseneau to produce the desired effect. Mind you, it was only meant to work with a paragraph if the entire paragraph was on one page; it wouldn't work if split across pages: does \setulayout[grid=yes] give acceptable results? - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] placing a paragraph with non-standard interlinear spacing onto the grid
On 4-10-2010 12:40, Talal Al-Azem wrote: Dear Hans and Wolfgang (et al), Unfortunately, I think I may have spoken too soon, as I've run into a small problem. :-) Using Wolfgang's suggestion of baselinecorrection: \startbaselinecorrection\setupinterlinespace[line=5ex] \stopbaselinecorrection I can no longer get footnotes which are in the Arabic paragraph to work. The footnote marker in the text shows up; but that particular footnote does not show at the bottom of the page, though a footnote from text outside of that paragraph do show, with their correct numbering. See attachments for an example. does \automigrateinserts help? (concerning the grid ... at some point we can associate lineht/dp with a font ... it's rather trivial to influence) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] placing a paragraph with non-standard interlinear spacing onto the grid
Unfortunately, I think I may have spoken too soon, as I've run into a small problem. :-) Using Wolfgang's suggestion of baselinecorrection: \startbaselinecorrection\setupinterlinespace[line=5ex] \stopbaselinecorrection I can no longer get footnotes which are in the Arabic paragraph to work. The footnote marker in the text shows up; but that particular footnote does not show at the bottom of the page, though a footnote from text outside of that paragraph do show, with their correct numbering. See attachments for an example. does \automigrateinserts help? It does indeed. Many thanks, Hans, for your quick responses and help! Kind regards, Talal (concerning the grid ... at some point we can associate lineht/dp with a font ... it's rather trivial to influence) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] placing a paragraph with non-standard interlinear spacing onto the grid
Dear all, This is important for anyone working with mixed language (font) texts. In my example, the overall document is Latin-based (e.g. English), with a paragraph of Arabic text; I want this Arabic paragraph as a whole to fit onto the grid (though obviously the individual Arabic lines of the paragraph would not). Currently, when I typeset an English paragraph, followed by an Arabic paragraph, followed by an English paragraph, the second English paragraph is no longer on the grid, having been throw off by the Arabic one. I'm looking for some way to automatically calculate and fill in the vspace needed for this. This is not the same as the issue of an Arabic word or phrase (or mathematic formula) being typeset in the midst of Latin text, as discussed http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg46163.html. Having read a few other matters on the mailing list (largely involving Idris and Hans), I'm sure it's possible, but I can't figure it out. Any help would be most appreciated. Kind regards, Talal___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] grid typesetting with Mark IV
Hi,
I don't get the expected result when I compile the following code with
context minimal (ConTeXt ver: 2010.09.14 23:27 MKIV).
With mk II (ConTeXt ver: 2010.09.14 23:27 MKII) it's ok -- lines are
well aligned on the grid.
Any clue?
Here's the code:
\setuplayout[grid=yes,marking=on]
\showgrid
\showframe
\setuphead[chapter][%
before={\blank[force,2*line]},
after={\blank[1*line]}]
\starttext
\chapter{test}
\input tufte
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] natural tables -- split 'n grid
On 11-9-2010 6:03, Philipp Gesang wrote:
Hi,
line correction leads to unwanted vertical spacing in split
natural tables. Example (in both MkII and MkIV):
··8·
%\setuplayout[grid=yes] % not required to reproduce it
\starttext
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth\par}
\startlinecorrection% fine without line correction
\bTABLE[split=yes] % fine with split=no
\bTABLEhead
\bTR\bTH p\eTH\bTH q\eTH\bTH p or q\eTH\eTR
\eTABLEhead
\bTABLEbody
\bTR\bTC False\eTC\bTC False\eTC\bTC False\eTC\eTR
\bTR\bTC True\eTC\bTC False\eTC\bTC True\eTC\eTR
\bTR\bTC False\eTC\bTC True\eTC\bTC True\eTC\eTR
\bTR\bTC True\eTC\bTC True\eTC\bTC True\eTC\eTR
\eTABLEbody
\eTABLE
\stoplinecorrection
\stoptext
··8·
What am I missing here? Is line correction even recommended for
use with tables? Why isn't it ignored if grid typesetting is
switched off? Thanks in advance,
that you should not use linecorrection with split
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[NTG-context] natural tables -- split 'n grid
Hi,
line correction leads to unwanted vertical spacing in split
natural tables. Example (in both MkII and MkIV):
··8·
%\setuplayout[grid=yes] % not required to reproduce it
\starttext
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth\par}
\startlinecorrection% fine without line correction
\bTABLE[split=yes] % fine with split=no
\bTABLEhead
\bTR\bTH p\eTH\bTH q\eTH\bTH p or q\eTH\eTR
\eTABLEhead
\bTABLEbody
\bTR\bTC False\eTC\bTC False\eTC\bTC False\eTC\eTR
\bTR\bTC True\eTC\bTC False\eTC\bTC True\eTC\eTR
\bTR\bTC False\eTC\bTC True\eTC\bTC True\eTC\eTR
\bTR\bTC True\eTC\bTC True\eTC\bTC True\eTC\eTR
\eTABLEbody
\eTABLE
\stoplinecorrection
\stoptext
··8·
What am I missing here? Is line correction even recommended for
use with tables? Why isn't it ignored if grid typesetting is
switched off? Thanks in advance,
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Re: [NTG-context] caught in the grid
Am 12.08.2010 um 00:31 schrieb Hans Hagen:
On 11-8-2010 9:49, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Hi,
as there is no setup for paragraphs (see thread before), I really don' know
how to come out of this trap:
I need a tight interlinespace for the normal body text, but no lunatic
headings!!
Have a look, please:
I have no time now. I will document the grid snapper once I've finished the
(still somewhat experimental) mechanism.
OK. ... Just to avoid basic mistakes:
What is right syntax (direct/indirect)?
The results differ (see below) ...
Steffen
\definegridsnapping[MyGrid][no]
%\setuplayout[grid=no] % - alternative a
\setuplayout[grid=MyGrid] % - alternative b
\showgrid
\setuphead[chapter]
\starttext
\chapter{one} \input tufte
\chapter{one\\two}\input tufte
\chapter{one\\two\\three} \input tufte
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] caught in the grid
You can play with embedding \section inside \start and
\stoplinecorrection to get rid of overlapping, but I'm not sure if
it's the right thing to do.
Piotr
2010/8/12 Steffen Wolfrum cont...@st.estfiles.de:
Am 12.08.2010 um 00:31 schrieb Hans Hagen:
On 11-8-2010 9:49, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Hi,
as there is no setup for paragraphs (see thread before), I really don' know
how to come out of this trap:
I need a tight interlinespace for the normal body text, but no lunatic
headings!!
Have a look, please:
I have no time now. I will document the grid snapper once I've finished the
(still somewhat experimental) mechanism.
OK. ... Just to avoid basic mistakes:
What is right syntax (direct/indirect)?
The results differ (see below) ...
Steffen
\definegridsnapping[MyGrid] [no]
%\setuplayout[grid=no] % - alternative a
\setuplayout[grid=MyGrid] % - alternative b
\showgrid
\setuphead[chapter]
\starttext
\chapter{one} \input tufte
\chapter{one\\two} \input tufte
\chapter{one\\two\\three} \input tufte
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] caught in the grid
On 12-8-2010 12:30, Piotr Kopszak wrote: You can play with embedding \section inside \start and \stoplinecorrection to get rid of overlapping, but I'm not sure if it's the right thing to do. there will be more control over nested snapping as said, the current mechanism is experimental - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] caught in the grid
This can only be used in single, controlled situations.
Look what happens when the section is to be placed at top of page:
\definegridsnapping[MyGrid] [off]
\showframe
\starttext
\setuplayout[grid=MyGrid]
\switchtobodyfont[42pt]
\setupinterlinespace[line=30pt]
Big text\crlf written in\crlf three row
\startlinecorrection
\section{One\\Two\\Three}
\stoplinecorrection
Big text\crlf written in\crlf three row
Big text\crlf written in\crlf three row
\startlinecorrection
\section{One\\Two\\Three}
\stoplinecorrection
Big text\crlf written in\crlf three row
\stoptext
Steffen
Am 12.08.2010 um 12:30 schrieb Piotr Kopszak:
You can play with embedding \section inside \start and
\stoplinecorrection to get rid of overlapping, but I'm not sure if
it's the right thing to do.
Piotr
2010/8/12 Steffen Wolfrum cont...@st.estfiles.de:
Am 12.08.2010 um 00:31 schrieb Hans Hagen:
On 11-8-2010 9:49, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Hi,
as there is no setup for paragraphs (see thread before), I really don'
know how to come out of this trap:
I need a tight interlinespace for the normal body text, but no lunatic
headings!!
Have a look, please:
I have no time now. I will document the grid snapper once I've finished the
(still somewhat experimental) mechanism.
OK. ... Just to avoid basic mistakes:
What is right syntax (direct/indirect)?
The results differ (see below) ...
Steffen
\definegridsnapping[MyGrid][no]
%\setuplayout[grid=no] % - alternative a
\setuplayout[grid=MyGrid] % - alternative b
\showgrid
\setuphead[chapter]
\starttext
\chapter{one} \input tufte
\chapter{one\\two}\input tufte
\chapter{one\\two\\three} \input tufte
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] caught in the grid
Hi,
as there is no setup for paragraphs (see thread before), I really don' know how
to come out of this trap:
I need a tight interlinespace for the normal body text, but no lunatic
headings!!
Have a look, please:
\definegridsnapping[MyGrid] [off]% broad/both/bold/local fit for the text
\starttext
\setuplayout[grid=MyGrid]
\switchtobodyfont[42pt]
\setupinterlinespace[line=30pt]
\lineskiplimit-\maxdimen
Big text\crlf written in\crlf three row
\section{One\\Two\\Three}
Big text\crlf written in\crlf three row
\stoptext
Literally the whole day I tried various grid key combinations ... for
setuplayout and setuphead ... in vain.
I am going crazy!
Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] caught in the grid
On 11-8-2010 9:49, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Hi, as there is no setup for paragraphs (see thread before), I really don' know how to come out of this trap: I need a tight interlinespace for the normal body text, but no lunatic headings!! Have a look, please: I have no time now. I will document the grid snapper once I've finished the (still somewhat experimental) mechanism. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] the grid (MkIV)
On 19-4-2010 1:37, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Hi,
how can I exclude a section head from grid?
Just compare setuplayout with grid=yes/no.
Is there a solution?
\showgrid
\starttext
\setuplayout[grid=yes]% [grid=no]
\setuphead[chapter][grid=none]
\chapter{one}
\page
\chapter{one\\line}
\page
\chapter{one\\line\\line}
\stoptext
how about
\setuplayout[grid=yes] \showgrid
\definegridsnapping[chapter][mindepth,maxheight,local]
\setuphead[chapter][grid=chapter,alternative=top]
\starttext
\chapter{one} \input tufte
\chapter{one\\two}\input tufte
\chapter{one\\two\\three} \input tufte
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] the grid (MkIV)
On 27-4-2010 7:14, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: I was reading spac-ver.mkiv on gridsnapping values ... but didn't find the local switch. What's it about? using local interlinespace vs bodyfont related - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] the grid (MkIV)
No answer at all ... Does that mean that nobody uses MkIV grid-typesting?
Or does that mean that excluding section heads from gridsnapping is impossible?
Steffen
Am 19.04.2010 um 13:37 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
Hi,
how can I exclude a section head from grid?
Just compare setuplayout with grid=yes/no.
Is there a solution?
\showgrid
\starttext
\setuplayout[grid=yes]% [grid=no]
\setuphead[chapter][grid=none]
\chapter{one}
\page
\chapter{one\\line}
\page
\chapter{one\\line\\line}
\stoptext
Thanks,
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Re: [NTG-context] the grid (MkIV)
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Steffen Wolfrum cont...@st.estfiles.de wrote:
No answer at all ... Does that mean that nobody uses MkIV grid-typesting?
Or does that mean that excluding section heads from gridsnapping is
impossible?
sorry, no answer
BTW I was experimenting with \vtop
\chapter{\vtop{one\\line}}
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Re: [NTG-context] the grid (MkIV)
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: No answer at all ... Does that mean that nobody uses MkIV grid-typesting? Nobody that wants to exclude section heads from the grid, it seems. Or does that mean that excluding section heads from gridsnapping is impossible? I would say that \setuphead[chapter][grid=none] is severely bugged, I've added a tracker item to that effect. It does move the chapter head off the grid, sort of (into the header ...) Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] the grid (MkIV)
On 22-4-2010 2:18, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Steffen Wolfrum wrote: No answer at all ... Does that mean that nobody uses MkIV grid-typesting? Nobody that wants to exclude section heads from the grid, it seems. Or does that mean that excluding section heads from gridsnapping is impossible? I would say that \setuphead[chapter][grid=none] is severely bugged, I've added a tracker item to that effect. It does move the chapter head off the grid, sort of (into the header ...) i have to check it but 'none' is not the same as 'no' or 'off' Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] the grid (MkIV)
Hans Hagen wrote: On 22-4-2010 2:18, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Steffen Wolfrum wrote: No answer at all ... Does that mean that nobody uses MkIV grid-typesting? Nobody that wants to exclude section heads from the grid, it seems. Or does that mean that excluding section heads from gridsnapping is impossible? I would say that \setuphead[chapter][grid=none] is severely bugged, I've added a tracker item to that effect. It does move the chapter head off the grid, sort of (into the header ...) i have to check it but 'none' is not the same as 'no' or 'off' Well, no and off have no effect at all. As 'none' does something at least, my guess was that it is just a little bugged. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Grid typesetting, colums and vertical spacing
Hello,
I'm trying to typeset on the grid, but I also need to reduce vertical
spacing around headings. Unfortunately when i specify the 'before/after'
setting for head, grid typesetting fails.
Is there any option to make \blank more flexible?
(I'm using MKII)
example:
\setupoutput[pdftex]
\setuppapersize[A4,landscape][A4,landscape]
\setuplayout[backspace=0.5cm,topspace=0.5cm,top=0cm,footer=0.5cm,
width=middle,height=middle,margin=0cm,header=0cm]
\setupbodyfont[10pt]
\mainlanguage[cz]
\enableregime[utf8]
\setuppagenumbering[location=]
\setuphead[section][style={\bf}]
\setuphead[section][before={\blank[halfline,flexible]}] % not working well
% \setuphead[section][after={\blank[halfline,flexible]}] % not working well
\starttext
\setuplayout[grid=yes] \showgrid
\definecolumnset[my][n=4,distance=1.2em,balance=yes] % balance not work
\startcolumnset[my]
\section{Pokus}
\input knuth
\input knuth
\subsection{Pokus 2}
\input knuth
\input knuth
\input knuth
\subsection{Pokus 3}
\input knuth
\stopcolumnset
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Grid typesetting, colums and vertical spacing
Hello Jan,
Am 20.04.2010 14:11, schrieb Jan Pohanka:
Hello,
I'm trying to typeset on the grid, but I also need to reduce vertical
spacing around headings. Unfortunately when i specify the 'before/after'
setting for head, grid typesetting fails.
Is there any option to make \blank more flexible?
(I'm using MKII)
see
http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/details.pdf
and (maybe outdated example)
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20051226.174723.f5c32d5c.en.html
Best wishes, Peter
example:
\setupoutput[pdftex]
\setuppapersize[A4,landscape][A4,landscape]
\setuplayout[backspace=0.5cm,topspace=0.5cm,top=0cm,footer=0.5cm,
width=middle,height=middle,margin=0cm,header=0cm]
\setupbodyfont[10pt]
\mainlanguage[cz]
\enableregime[utf8]
\setuppagenumbering[location=]
\setuphead[section][style={\bf}]
\setuphead[section][before={\blank[halfline,flexible]}] % not working well
% \setuphead[section][after={\blank[halfline,flexible]}] % not working well
\starttext
\setuplayout[grid=yes] \showgrid
\definecolumnset[my][n=4,distance=1.2em,balance=yes] % balance not work
\startcolumnset[my]
\section{Pokus}
\input knuth
\input knuth
\subsection{Pokus 2}
\input knuth
\input knuth
\input knuth
\subsection{Pokus 3}
\input knuth
\stopcolumnset
\stoptext
greetings
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[NTG-context] the grid (MkIV)
Hi,
how can I exclude a section head from grid?
Just compare setuplayout with grid=yes/no.
Is there a solution?
\showgrid
\starttext
\setuplayout[grid=yes]% [grid=no]
\setuphead[chapter][grid=none]
\chapter{one}
\page
\chapter{one\\line}
\page
\chapter{one\\line\\line}
\stoptext
Thanks,
Steffen
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[NTG-context] Grid typesetting, colums and vertical spacing
Hello,
I'm trying to typeset on the grid, but I also need to reduce vertical
spacing around headings. Unfortunately when i specify the 'before/after'
setting for head, grid typesetting fails.
Is there any option to make \blank more flexible?
(I'm using MKII)
example:
\setupoutput[pdftex]
\setuppapersize[A4,landscape][A4,landscape]
\setuplayout[backspace=0.5cm,topspace=0.5cm,top=0cm,footer=0.5cm,
width=middle,height=middle,margin=0cm,header=0cm]
\setupbodyfont[10pt]
\mainlanguage[cz]
\enableregime[utf8]
\setuppagenumbering[location=]
\setuphead[section][style={\bf}]
\setuphead[section][before={\blank[halfline,flexible]}] % not working well
% \setuphead[section][after={\blank[halfline,flexible]}] % not working well
\starttext
\setuplayout[grid=yes] \showgrid
\definecolumnset[my][n=4,distance=1.2em,balance=yes] % balance not work
\startcolumnset[my]
\section{Pokus}
\input knuth
\input knuth
\subsection{Pokus 2}
\input knuth
\input knuth
\input knuth
\subsection{Pokus 3}
\input knuth
\stopcolumnset
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] grid in footnotes, was: Re: footnote marks fail
On 13-4-2010 3:33, Michael Saunders wrote:
Peter M?nster wrote:
\setupfootnotes[numbercommand=, textcommand=, style=, textstyle=,
bodyfont=]
Thanks, Peter. With some experimentation I got what I wanted. For
the record, I'm using:
\definefontfeature[su][body][sups=yes,ordn=yes]%superior
\definefontfeature[nu][body][numr=yes]%numerator
\definefontfeature[po][body][pnum=yes,onum=yes]%proportional old style
\newcommand{\fnmstyle}{\addff{nu}\switchtobodyfont[12pt]}
\newcommand{\fntstyle}{\addff{po}}
i was not even aware that \newcommand was there ... probably more a
catch for bibtex issues
\setupnote[footnote][location=columns,numbercommand=\fnmstyle,textcommand=\fntstyle,textstyle=\addff{su},align={normal,hanging},split=verystrict,interaction=yes]
I don't know quite why it works, but it works---except for one little
thing---there is a little vertical space between each footnote
(apparently because of the \switchtobodyfont[12pt]).
that will indeed define the interlinespace; also, the regular \high
command does some snapping while with the supp feature you're dependent
on what the fonts delivers as ht/dp of a glyph
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Re: [NTG-context] grid in footnotes, was: Re: footnote marks fail
i was not even aware that \newcommand was there ... probably more a
catch for bibtex issues
I have been using it a lot since, although Context seems to use a lot
of brackets, it won't allow nested ones. For example, I have to use:
\newcommand{\hfstyle}{\switchtobodyfont[15pt]}
\setupheader[style=\hfstyle]
because I'll get an error from:
\setupheader[style=\switchtobodyfont[15pt]]
Is there an easier way?
\setupnote[footnote][location=columns,numbercommand=\fnmstyle,textcommand=\fntstyle,textstyle=\addff{su},align={normal,hanging},split=verystrict,interaction=yes]
I don't know quite why it works, but it works---except for one little
thing---there is a little vertical space between each footnote
(apparently because of the \switchtobodyfont[12pt]).
that will indeed define the interlinespace; also, the regular \high
command does some snapping while with the supp feature you're dependent
on what the fonts delivers as ht/dp of a glyph
I don't see how could you possibly use \high{} for the footnote marks
(\setupnote[footnote][?]). Besides, as I understand it, \high{} just
rescales the body font---which always looks bad. So, I don't want to
use \high{}. I use my numr feature which gives me exactly the right
shape and height, but I have a little space between the footnotes.
How do I eliminate the space? Maybe by setting a verytolerant grid
for the footnotes? I don't know how.
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Re: [NTG-context] grid in footnotes, was: Re: footnote marks fail
On 14-4-2010 4:51, Michael Saunders wrote:
i was not even aware that \newcommand was there ... probably more a
catch for bibtex issues
I have been using it a lot since, although Context seems to use a lot
of brackets, it won't allow nested ones. For example, I have to use:
\newcommand{\hfstyle}{\switchtobodyfont[15pt]}
\setupheader[style=\hfstyle]
because I'll get an error from:
\setupheader[style=\switchtobodyfont[15pt]]
\setupheader[style={\switchtobodyfont[15pt]}]
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[NTG-context] grid in footnotes, was: Re: footnote marks fail
Peter M?nster wrote:
\setupfootnotes[numbercommand=, textcommand=, style=, textstyle=,
bodyfont=]
Thanks, Peter. With some experimentation I got what I wanted. For
the record, I'm using:
\definefontfeature[su][body][sups=yes,ordn=yes]%superior
\definefontfeature[nu][body][numr=yes]%numerator
\definefontfeature[po][body][pnum=yes,onum=yes]%proportional old style
\newcommand{\fnmstyle}{\addff{nu}\switchtobodyfont[12pt]}
\newcommand{\fntstyle}{\addff{po}}
\setupnote[footnote][location=columns,numbercommand=\fnmstyle,textcommand=\fntstyle,textstyle=\addff{su},align={normal,hanging},split=verystrict,interaction=yes]
I don't know quite why it works, but it works---except for one little
thing---there is a little vertical space between each footnote
(apparently because of the \switchtobodyfont[12pt]).
So I have one more question: is there a way to force the footnotes
onto their own grid to prevent this? I am already using
\setuplayout[...,grid=verytolerant], which I thought would take care
of it.
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[NTG-context] grid + section in text - unwanted vertical space
Dear list,
With the following example:
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\setuphead[section][alternative=text]
\starttext
\section{Test}\input knuth
\stoptext
I get the attached result. I would expect no empty line between the
section line and the rest of the paragraph. Any advices?
Best regards, Mikael
PS Using an updated MKIV
gridsec.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Re: [NTG-context] grid + section in text - unwanted vertical space
Am 19.03.10 08:21, schrieb Mikael Persson: Dear list, With the following example: \setuplayout[grid=yes] \setuphead[section][alternative=text] \setuphead[section][alternative=text,strut=no] Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] grid + section in text - unwanted vertical space
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 19.03.10 08:21, schrieb Mikael Persson: Dear list, With the following example: \setuplayout[grid=yes] \setuphead[section][alternative=text] \setuphead[section][alternative=text,strut=no] Wolfgang Thank you very much Wolfgang, that works perfectly! Mikael ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] grid + section in text - unwanted vertical space
My solution was ... :
\setuphead[section][grid={low,fit}]
Regards,
Alex
On vr, 2010-03-19 at 15:10 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 19.03.10 08:21, schrieb Mikael Persson:
Dear list,
With the following example:
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\setuphead[section][alternative=text]
\setuphead[section][alternative=text,strut=no]
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] MkIV grid ?
Hi,
I have seen Hans' reply to Peter Rolf from Nov. 19th 2009 on grid snapping
(mkiv).
What has changed since then? Is there some more info somewhere?
I am missing my MkII optimized section setting, like ...
grid={page,3.5pt,fit,low}
Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] MkIV grid ?
On 17-2-2010 10:58, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Hi,
I have seen Hans' reply to Peter Rolf from Nov. 19th 2009 on grid snapping
(mkiv).
What has changed since then? Is there some more info somewhere?
I am missing my MkII optimized section setting, like ...
grid={page,3.5pt,fit,low}
i have no time not to explain it but the system is somewhat different
than in mkii
% \installsnapvalues{loose} {\v!maxdepth:0.8,\v!maxheight:0.8,\v!strut}
% \installsnapvalues{normal}{\v!maxdepth:1.0,\v!maxheight:1.0,\v!strut}
% \installsnapvalues{tight} {\v!maxdepth:1.2,\v!maxheight:1.2,\v!strut}
% none don't enlarge
% halfline enlarge by halfline/halfline
% line enlarge by line/line
% strutenlarge by ht/dp (default)
% firstalign to top line
% last align to bottom line
% mindepth round depth down
% maxdepth round depth up
% minheightround height down
% maxheightround height up
%D We're not downward compatible with \MKII !
\definegridsnapping[\v!normal] [\v!maxheight,\v!maxdepth,\v!strut]
\definegridsnapping[\v!standard] [\v!maxheight,\v!maxdepth,\v!strut]
\definegridsnapping[\v!yes] [\v!maxheight,\v!maxdepth,\v!strut]
\definegridsnapping[\v!strict] [\v!maxdepth:0.8,\v!maxheight:0.8,\v!strut]
\definegridsnapping[\v!tolerant] [\v!maxdepth:1.2,\v!maxheight:1.2,\v!strut]
\definegridsnapping[\v!top] [\v!minheight,\v!maxdepth,\v!strut]
\definegridsnapping[\v!bottom] [\v!maxheight,\v!mindepth,\v!strut]
\definegridsnapping[\v!both] [\v!minheight,\v!mindepth,\v!strut]
\definegridsnapping[\v!broad][\v!maxheight,\v!maxdepth,\v!strut,0.8]
% maybe 0.85
\definegridsnapping[\v!fit] [\v!maxheight,\v!maxdepth,\v!strut,1.2]
% tight 0.15
\definegridsnapping[\v!first][\v!first]
\definegridsnapping[\v!last] [\v!last]
\definegridsnapping[\v!high] [\v!minheight,\v!maxdepth,\v!none]
\definegridsnapping[\v!low] [\v!maxheight,\v!mindepth,\v!none]
\definegridsnapping[\v!line] [\v!line]
\definegridsnapping[\v!strut][\v!strut]
\definegridsnapping[\v!max] [\v!maxdepth,\v!maxheight,\v!strut]
\definegridsnapping[\v!min] [\v!mindepth,\v!minheight,\v!strut]
in one (experimental) style i use:
% none will effectively smash the box to one line (zero inner) but is
the same as strut as outer will snap
% however you can use {none,top:3} to move it down 3 lines then
% {local,strut} will use the style related settings and move one line
down because the font is larger
\setuphead
[chapter]
[grid=strut]
\setuphead
[section]
[grid=strut]
most structure components will get a grid key and these are normally local
the bottomline is that you snap up/down, within certain rounding specs,
and add/subtract/distribute extra lineheights to the ht/dp's of the
gridded material
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Grid, Footnotes and MkIV
On 14-2-2010 19:39, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Am 14.02.2010 um 19:25 schrieb Hans Hagen:
On 14-2-2010 19:15, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
\usetypescript[postscript]
\definetypeface[postscript][rm][serif][times][default]
\mainlanguage[de]
\setupbodyfont[postscript,10pt]
\setuplayout
[grid=yes]
\def\setnotebodyfont
{\let\setnotebodyfont\relax
\restoreglobalbodyfont
\switchtobodyfont[rm,9pt]
\interwordspace 2.70pt
\interwordstretch 1.7pt
\interwordshrink 0.9pt
\setupinterlinespace[line=9.8pt,height=.79,depth=.21]\setupalign[block,hanging]\parskip2pt}
\setupinterlinespace is global, \setuplocalinterlinespace is local
so you need to use the local variant
just like we have setupbodyfont, switchtobodyfont, we now have
setupinterlinespace and setuplocalinterlinespace
I assume \setupinterlinespace then should only be used once for the body text.
And everything else is classified as local?!
i'm still reconsidering this ... maybe in mkiv we will have
- \setupbodyinterlinespace
- \switchtobodyinterlinespace
and \setupinterlinespace being local (or global till starttext)
Hans
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[NTG-context] smaller inter line space for headings (on a grid)
Hi all,
I have three questions:
1) Is there a convenient way to reduce the inter line space for an head on a
grid? First I tried
\setuphead[section][style={\ssb\setupinterlinespace[line=1ex]}]—no effect.
Finally I defined three commands to get it work. Perhaps someone knows a better
way.
2) In a manual I found an example \setuphead[section][grid={line,-5pt}], but it
doesn’t seem to work. Is it outdated? Is there an MkIV alternative?
3) Is there a MkIV pendant for \showgridboxes?
test-head-interlinespace.tex
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Re: [NTG-context] grid snapping (mkiv)
Peter Rolf wrote:
Hi,
is the 'grid={line,??pt}' functionality already implemented in mkiv? I
use it in a multicolumn environment and all I get is snapping to the
'full' baseline.
\setuphead[section]
[%style={\SectionHeaderFont},
style={\switchtobodyfont[12.3pt]\ss\bf\setupinterlinespace},
% grid={high}, % ok
grid={line,3pt}, % snaps to 'second' baseline
after=,
]
grid support is partially reimplemented and will differ in some aspects
from mkii
i have no time now to discuss it in detail (will probably explain a few
things in a chapter of hybrid.pdf or the style manual)
we have now grid definitions, with predefined:
\definegridsnapping[normal] [maxheight,maxdepth,strut]
\definegridsnapping[standard] [maxheight,maxdepth,strut]
\definegridsnapping[yes] [maxheight,maxdepth,strut]
\definegridsnapping[strict] [maxdepth:0.8,maxheight:0.8,strut]
\definegridsnapping[tolerant] [maxdepth:1.2,maxheight:1.2,strut]
\definegridsnapping[top] [minheight,maxdepth,strut]
\definegridsnapping[bottom] [maxheight,mindepth,strut]
\definegridsnapping[both] [minheight,mindepth,strut]
\definegridsnapping[broad][maxheight,maxdepth,strut,0.8]
\definegridsnapping[fit] [maxheight,maxdepth,strut,1.2]
\definegridsnapping[first][first]
\definegridsnapping[last] [last]
\definegridsnapping[high] [minheight,maxdepth,none]
\definegridsnapping[low] [maxheight,mindepth,none]
\definegridsnapping[line] [line]
\definegridsnapping[strut][strut]
\definegridsnapping[max] [maxdepth,maxheight,strut]
\definegridsnapping[min] [mindepth,minheight,strut]
so we have height/depth snapping, tolerance factors, strut or line based
distribution, and some more; also there will be more strategies, like
\setuplayout[grid=tolerant] \showgrid
most structural elements will have a grid key (if it makes sense)
\setuphead[chapter][grid=strut] \startchapter[title={Test:
strut}] test \par test \par test \stopchapter
\setuphead[chapter][grid={local,strut}] \startchapter[title={Test:
local,strut}] test \par test \par test \stopchapter
\setuphead[chapter][grid={strut,top:3}] \startchapter[title={Test:
strut,top:3}] test \par test \par test \stopchapter
multi columns are not touched yet (i will do that as soon as we've
opened up a it more of tex in luatex)
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] stay on grid in double column
Jelle Huisman wrote: Hi, I have text with a small intro section in a double column environment. The main text is set on a grid and the intro text is slightly off-grid with a \vskip -2pt before and a \vskip 2pt after the intro. As this sample shows this works fine, until the intro text is broken over two columns. In that case the last part of the intro starts on grid (in the second column) and the main text is moved off-grid and does not longer register with the main text in the first column :( [see example code]. Is there is way to detect and prevent this (automatically)? Can ConTeXt remember that it is setting some text \vskip-ped, while it is breaking the current paragraph over columns? (Basically I want to keep all the B's on the grid and all the A's \vskipped.) Should I conclude that this is not possible? Jelle ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] stay on grid in double column
Jelle Huisman wrote: the current paragraph over columns? (Basically I want to keep all the B's on the grid and all the A's \vskipped.) Should I conclude that this is not possible? My first (and second) answer would indeed be not possible. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] stay on grid in double column
Hans Hagen wrote: ok, you suffered enough ... so, this is for your eyes only because otherwise i get complaints about a non documented feature: \synchronizegrid (we needed it once in a project; it worked ok there but was never tested being that which is why it's still on cont-new) (...) the thing with grids is that one can make things work for most cases but normally doc are always more tricky OK, thank you Hans, this does (almost) what I need and that is enough (in this case.) Jelle ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] stay on grid in double column
Jelle Huisman wrote:
Jelle Huisman wrote:
Hi,
I have text with a small intro section in a double column environment.
The main text is set on a grid and the intro text is slightly off-grid
with a \vskip -2pt before and a \vskip 2pt after the intro. As this
sample shows this works fine, until the intro text is broken over two
columns. In that case the last part of the intro starts on grid (in the
second column) and the main text is moved off-grid and does not longer
register with the main text in the first column :( [see example code].
Is there is way to detect and prevent this (automatically)? Can ConTeXt
remember that it is setting some text \vskip-ped, while it is breaking
the current paragraph over columns? (Basically I want to keep all the
B's on the grid and all the A's \vskipped.)
Should I conclude that this is not possible?
ok, you suffered enough ... so, this is for your eyes only because
otherwise i get complaints about a non documented feature:
\synchronizegrid (we needed it once in a project; it worked ok there but
was never tested being that which is why it's still on cont-new)
\definecolumnset[doublecolumn][n=2]
\setupcolumnset[doublecolumn][2][distance=5mm]
\setupbodyfont[12pt]
\setupinterlinespace[line=11pt]
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\starttext
\startcolumnset[doublecolumn]
\ss \subject{Header}
\dorecurse {2} {
\vskip -2pt
This text is vskipped. A \dorecurse{40}{ aa aa}
\vskip 2pt % intro text
\synchronizegrid
This text should stay on the grid. B \dorecurse{270}{ bb bb}} % main
text should stay on grid
\stopcolumnset
\stoptext
the thing with grids is that one can make things work for most cases but
normally doc are always more tricky
in mkiv i will add some more advanced grid support (i did some
experiments last year .. no time now to finish that)
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[NTG-context] stay on grid in double column
Hi,
I have text with a small intro section in a double column environment.
The main text is set on a grid and the intro text is slightly off-grid
with a \vskip -2pt before and a \vskip 2pt after the intro. As this
sample shows this works fine, until the intro text is broken over two
columns. In that case the last part of the intro starts on grid (in the
second column) and the main text is moved off-grid and does not longer
register with the main text in the first column :( [see example code].
Is there is way to detect and prevent this (automatically)? Can ConTeXt
remember that it is setting some text \vskip-ped, while it is breaking
the current paragraph over columns? (Basically I want to keep all the
B's on the grid and all the A's \vskipped.)
Thanks, Jelle
% sample code
\definecolumnset[doublecolumn][n=2]
\setupcolumnset[doublecolumn][2][distance=5mm]
\setupbodyfont[12pt]
\setupinterlinespace[line=11pt]
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\starttext
\startcolumnset[doublecolumn]
\ss \subject{Header}
\dorecurse{2}{\vskip -2pt This text is vskipped. A \dorecurse{40}{ aa
aa} \vskip 2pt % intro text
This text should stay on the grid. B \dorecurse{270}{ bb bb}} % main
text should stay on grid
\stopcolumnset
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Bigger interline space and grid
Aditya Mahajan wrote:
Hi,
I cannot figure out how to increase the interline space with grid
snapping. The following does not work
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\setupinterlinespace[auto,big]
\setupwhitespace [medium]
\setupindenting [medium,yes]
\showgrid
\starttext
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth \endgraf}
\stoptext
What am I missing?
the concept of snapping -)
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\setupinterlinespace[line=20pt]
\setupwhitespace [halfline]
\showgrid
\starttext
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth \endgraf}
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Bigger interline space and grid
Hi,
I cannot figure out how to increase the interline space with grid
snapping. The following does not work
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\setupinterlinespace[auto,big]
\setupwhitespace [medium]
\setupindenting [medium,yes]
\showgrid
\starttext
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth \endgraf}
\stoptext
What am I missing?
Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Bigger interline space and grid
Aditya Mahajan wrote:
Hi,
I cannot figure out how to increase the interline space with grid
snapping. The following does not work
You will probably have to adjust the default interlinespace
because that is what is used by the grid snapping routines:
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\setupbodyfontenvironment[12pt][interlinespace=20pt]
\setupbodyfont[12pt] % re-activate
\showgrid
\starttext
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth \endgraf}
\stoptext
Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Bigger interline space and grid
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Aditya Mahajan wrote:
Hi,
I cannot figure out how to increase the interline space with grid
snapping. The following does not work
You will probably have to adjust the default interlinespace
because that is what is used by the grid snapping routines:
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\setupbodyfontenvironment[12pt][interlinespace=20pt]
\setupbodyfont[12pt] % re-activate
\showgrid
\starttext
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth \endgraf}
\stoptext
Ah, thanks.
Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] need help with creating a grid with context
2007/10/10, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 10/10/07, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: 2007/10/10, Mojca Miklavec: On 10/10/07, MASON Peter J wrote: Hope to create a regular (1cm spacing) grid on page, of bullets. Ultimately over the whole page. Why not using MetaPost? \starttext \startMPcode % or \startMPpage for i=0 upto 10: for j=0 upto 20: fill fullcircle scaled 1mm shifted ((i,j) scaled 1cm); endfor; endfor; \stopMPcode \stoptext Mojca Because TeX is faster in this situation and it takes more time to write the Metapost code in external file, process this file, convert it into a PDF file and include it into the document etc. I know what I say because this was one of the reasons why the sgf module place the field within TeX and not with Metapost, a matter of speed and you can reuse the objects. OK, that's a good point, and I fully agree with it. It's only that I would probably use something like that for really simple, short, one-page documents, where I would be concerned about the speed I need to come to a solution, not with the speed of document processing - half a second more or less. This was in my case also a one page document but I created over hundret full page graphics (needed for fieldstacks) and it is a real problem in this case, the other problem for this solution was, I had to pass dozen graphic position to Metapost and it was easier to do the whole work within TeX and use Metapost only to create the needed graphics one and reuse them. With the route tex - .plt file - gnuplot - tex (metafun) - metapost (- mpto or \sometxt) - pdf, which I frequently use, the situation is much much worse, but it's still acceptable. ConTeXt became at least 10 times faster during the last three or four years. (Or at least that's my impression.) I don't use gnuplot and I think a lua driven Tikz should solve this in the future, calculate the graphs with lua definition and draw the graphics with TeX macros. You should also replace the fullcircle with drawdot in your example, drawdot renders better on screen and looks better. Thanks. I always use fill fullcircle for some reason. Perhaps I should changle my habit :) Sorry, my fault. What I meant was the difference between draw point and drawpoint point where the first should be replaced in this situation with the later, fullcircle produce nice circles and Donald Knuth took care about this. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] need help with creating a grid with context
2007/10/10, Peter Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi Peter,
MASON Peter J schrieb:
I'm trying to layout a grid of bullets. The results isn't the expected
one. Perhaps someone could offer help here? Thanks.
Here's the sort of thing I'm doing
\setuplayout[leftmargin=0pt, leftmargindistance=0pt, backspace=0pt,
rightmargin=0pt, rightmargindistance=0pt, cutspace=0pt, width=middle,
topspace=0pt, header=0pt, headerdistance=0pt, footer=0pt,
footerdistance=0pt, bottomspace=0pt, height=middle]
%\showlayout
\starttext
\setuppositioning[unit=cm]
\startpositioning
\newcount\Row
\Row= 0
\loop
{
^^
\newcount\Col
^^
\Col = 0
\loop
\position(\Col, \Row) {$\bullet$}
\ifnum\Col 14
\advance\Col by 1
\repeat
}
^^
\ifnum\Row 36
\advance\Row by 1
\repeat
\stoppositioning
\stoptext
You introduce spurious spaces (line break sometimes adds a space) in
you loops. See
http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/texbytopic/
if you want to learn more about it.
\starttext
\setuppositioning[unit=cm]
\startpositioning
\newcount\Row
\newcount\Col
\Row=0
\dorecurse{36}
{\Col=0
\dorecurse{14}
{\position(\Col,\Row){$\bullet$}
\advance\Col by 1
}%
\advance\Row by 1
}
\stoppositioning
\stoptext
Remove the comment sign behind the inner loop and see what happens.
Also see
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/System_Macros/Loops_and_Recursion
for the nicer ConTeXt loop macros.
Best wishes, Peter
Hi,
there is smarter and better solution than loop for doing this work,
you can use leaders. I prefer myself xledaers in this example (alternative b).
\defineoverlay[PageGrid][\PageGrid]
\setupbackgrounds[page][background=PageGrid,offset=5mm]
\starttext
% alternative a:
\def\PageGrid
{\setbox\scratchbox\hbox to\dimexpr\paperwidth-1cm\relax
{\leaders\hbox to 1cm{\hss$\bullet$\hss}\hfill}%
\vbox to\dimexpr\paperheight-1cm\relax
{\leaders\vbox to 1cm{\vss\box\scratchbox\vss}\vfill}}
\page[empty]
% alternative b:
\def\PageGrid
{\setbox\scratchbox\hbox to\dimexpr\paperwidth-1cm\relax
{\xleaders\hbox to 1cm{\hss$\bullet$\hss}\hfill}%
\vbox to\dimexpr\paperheight-1cm\relax
{\xleaders\vbox to 1cm{\vss\box\scratchbox\vss}\vfill}}
\page[empty]
% alternative c:
\def\PageGrid
{\setbox\scratchbox\hbox to\dimexpr\paperwidth-1cm\relax
{\cleaders\hbox to 1cm{\hss$\bullet$\hss}\hfill}%
\vbox to\dimexpr\paperheight-1cm\relax
{\cleaders\vbox to 1cm{\vss\box\scratchbox\vss}\vfill}}
\page[empty]
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] need help with creating a grid with context
Hi Peter,
MASON Peter J schrieb:
I'm trying to layout a grid of bullets. The results isn't the expected
one. Perhaps someone could offer help here? Thanks.
Here's the sort of thing I'm doing
\setuplayout[leftmargin=0pt, leftmargindistance=0pt, backspace=0pt,
rightmargin=0pt, rightmargindistance=0pt, cutspace=0pt, width=middle,
topspace=0pt, header=0pt, headerdistance=0pt, footer=0pt,
footerdistance=0pt, bottomspace=0pt, height=middle]
%\showlayout
\starttext
\setuppositioning[unit=cm]
\startpositioning
\newcount\Row
\Row= 0
\loop
{
^^
\newcount\Col
^^
\Col = 0
\loop
\position(\Col, \Row) {$\bullet$}
\ifnum\Col 14
\advance\Col by 1
\repeat
}
^^
\ifnum\Row 36
\advance\Row by 1
\repeat
\stoppositioning
\stoptext
You introduce spurious spaces (line break sometimes adds a space) in
you loops. See
http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/texbytopic/
if you want to learn more about it.
\starttext
\setuppositioning[unit=cm]
\startpositioning
\newcount\Row
\newcount\Col
\Row=0
\dorecurse{36}
{\Col=0
\dorecurse{14}
{\position(\Col,\Row){$\bullet$}
\advance\Col by 1
}%
\advance\Row by 1
}
\stoppositioning
\stoptext
Remove the comment sign behind the inner loop and see what happens.
Also see
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/System_Macros/Loops_and_Recursion
for the nicer ConTeXt loop macros.
Best wishes, Peter
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Re: [NTG-context] need help with creating a grid with context
On 10/10/07, MASON Peter J wrote: Hope to create a regular (1cm spacing) grid on page, of bullets. Ultimately over the whole page. Why not using MetaPost? \starttext \startMPcode % or \startMPpage for i=0 upto 10: for j=0 upto 20: fill fullcircle scaled 1mm shifted ((i,j) scaled 1cm); endfor; endfor; \stopMPcode \stoptext Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
