Re:[nysbirds-l] Drake Eurasian Wigeon - Pelham Bay Park, Bronx NY Tuesday March 22 - should be March 24..
Sorry, I meant to say Drake Eurasian Wigeon - Pelham Bay Park, Bronx, NY Tuesday March 24. -Original Message- >From: Deborah Allen >Sent: Mar 24, 2015 11:42 PM >To: NYSBIRDS-L >Subject: Drake Eurasian Wigeon - Pelham Bay Park, Bronx NY Tuesday March 22. > >Drake Eurasian Wigeon - Pelham Bay Park, Bronx NY Tuesday March 22. > >Today while birding in Pelham Bay Park Bob DeCandido & I saw a male Eurasian >Wigeon off Hunter Island. > >Here are some photos of the bird: > >http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17992512 > > >http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17992514 > > >http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17992516 > > >Other ducks seen nearby: Gadwall, American Wigeon, American Black Duck, >Mallard, Bufflehead, Common Goldeneye (3), and Red-breasted Merganser. We also >saw four American Oystercatchers. > >Otherwise a quiet day. > >Deborah Allen >Bronx, NY -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Drake Eurasian Wigeon - Pelham Bay Park, Bronx NY Tuesday March 22.
Drake Eurasian Wigeon - Pelham Bay Park, Bronx NY Tuesday March 22. Today while birding in Pelham Bay Park Bob DeCandido & I saw a male Eurasian Wigeon off Hunter Island. Here are some photos of the bird: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17992512 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17992514 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17992516 Other ducks seen nearby: Gadwall, American Wigeon, American Black Duck, Mallard, Bufflehead, Common Goldeneye (3), and Red-breasted Merganser. We also saw four American Oystercatchers. Otherwise a quiet day. Deborah Allen Bronx, NY -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: RE: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: [ebirdsnyc] Possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach 20150324
Does anyone have an idea as to the cause for the different coloration in the legs. Could it be diet related? John Turner - Original Message - From: Shaibal Mitra Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 10:08 pm Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: [ebirdsnyc] Possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach 20150324 To: NYSBIRDS-L > Both of our common large gull species, Herring and Great Black- > backed, occasionally deviate from their usual dull pink legs to > more or less yellow legs. Some examples of this phenomenon can > be seen starting here: > > https://picasaweb.google.com/109808209543611018404/LaridaeIIHerringGreatBlackBackedGulls#5376517305977522738 > > From: "js...@nyu.edu [ebirdsnyc]" > > nore...@yahoogroups.com>>Date: March 24, 2015 at 4:02:50 PM EDT > To: > > Subject: [ebirdsnyc] Possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach > 20150324Reply-To: js...@nyu.edu > > > > Today at 10:30 AM an isolated possible Yellow legged Gull at > Plumb Beach. Near a group of 12 Oystercatchers and 40 Brant, > > I am not an expert, any feedback is welcome. I have additional > images if needed. > > Thank you. > > Juan Salas > > > > Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach > 20150324 > > > [image] > > > Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 > Explore > js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. > > > View on www.flickr.com > > Preview by Yahoo > > > > Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b > 20150324 > > > [image] > > > Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 > Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. > > > View on www.flickr.com > > Preview by Yahoo > > > > > > __._,_.___ > > Posted by: js...@nyu.edu > > Reply via web > post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in > this topic (1) > ebirdsnyc: bird sightings from the NYC area > Visit Your > Group > > * New > Members 2 > > [Yahoo! > Groups] > • > Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use > > . > > > __,_._,___ > -- > NYSbirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and > LeaveArchives: > The Mail Archive> l...@cornell.edu/maillist.html>Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > Please submit your observations to > eBird!-- > > > Connect with CSI on Social Media> > > -- > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Yellow-legged HEGU
Another example from Floyd Bennett Field/Brooklyn a couple of years ago: https://picasaweb.google.com/aplomadoperegrine/YellowLeggedHEGU Shane Sent from my iPhone -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: [ebirdsnyc] Possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach 20150324
Yellow legged Herring Gull it is. I thank you all for the feedback. Angus Wilson, point taken. Shaibal Mitra's excellent pictures of a yellow legged Herring Gull seem to show an even darker mantled individual. It has been a great opportunity for me to learn. Thank you. Juan Salas On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:07 PM, Shaibal Mitra wrote: > Both of our common large gull species, Herring and Great Black-backed, > occasionally deviate from their usual dull pink legs to more or less yellow > legs. Some examples of this phenomenon can be seen starting here: > > > https://picasaweb.google.com/109808209543611018404/LaridaeIIHerringGreatBlackBackedGulls#5376517305977522738 > > *From:* "js...@nyu.edu [ebirdsnyc]" > *Date:* March 24, 2015 at 4:02:50 PM EDT > *To:* > *Subject:* *[ebirdsnyc] Possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach > 20150324* > *Reply-To:* js...@nyu.edu > > > > Today at 10:30 AM an isolated possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach. > Near a group of 12 Oystercatchers and 40 Brant, > > I am not an expert, any feedback is welcome. I have additional images if > needed. > > Thank you. > > Juan Salas > > > > Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/> > [image: image] > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/> > Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/> > Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. > View on www.flickr.com > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/> > Preview by Yahoo > > Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/> > [image: image] > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/> > Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/> > Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. > View on www.flickr.com > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/> > Preview by Yahoo > > > > __._,_.___ > -- > Posted by: js...@nyu.edu > -- >Reply via web post > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/conversations/messages/14597;_ylc=X3oDMTJyYXIzamxvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRtc2dJZAMxNDU5NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzE-?act=reply=14597> > • Reply to sender > > • Reply to group > > • Start a New Topic > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJmZG5hajZxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzE-> > • Messages in this topic > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/conversations/topics/14597;_ylc=X3oDMTM3bmg5anZ0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRtc2dJZAMxNDU5NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzEEdHBjSWQDMTQ1OTc-> > (1) > ebirdsnyc: bird sightings from the NYC area > Visit Your Group > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMGFoM3VkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzE-> > >- New Members > > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/members/all;_ylc=X3oDMTJnb28xZTZiBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxNDI3MjI3Mzcx> >2 > > [image: Yahoo! Groups] > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJlbzY3OG1nBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTQyNzIyNzM3MQ--> > • Privacy <https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html> • > Unsubscribe • > Terms > of Use <https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/> > > . > > __,_._,___ > > -- > *NYSbirds-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > <http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> > Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L> > BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html> > *Please submit your observations to **eBird* > <http://ebird.org/content/ebird
RE: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: [ebirdsnyc] Possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach 20150324
Both of our common large gull species, Herring and Great Black-backed, occasionally deviate from their usual dull pink legs to more or less yellow legs. Some examples of this phenomenon can be seen starting here: https://picasaweb.google.com/109808209543611018404/LaridaeIIHerringGreatBlackBackedGulls#5376517305977522738 From: "js...@nyu.edu<mailto:js...@nyu.edu> [ebirdsnyc]" mailto:ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com>> Date: March 24, 2015 at 4:02:50 PM EDT To: mailto:ebirds...@yahoogroups.com>> Subject: [ebirdsnyc] Possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach 20150324 Reply-To: js...@nyu.edu<mailto:js...@nyu.edu> Today at 10:30 AM an isolated possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach. Near a group of 12 Oystercatchers and 40 Brant, I am not an expert, any feedback is welcome. I have additional images if needed. Thank you. Juan Salas Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324<https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/> [image] <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/> Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/> Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. View on www.flickr.com <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/> Preview by Yahoo Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324<https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/> [image] <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/> Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/> Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. View on www.flickr.com <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/> Preview by Yahoo __._,_.___ Posted by: js...@nyu.edu<mailto:js...@nyu.edu> Reply via web post<https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/conversations/messages/14597;_ylc=X3oDMTJyYXIzamxvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRtc2dJZAMxNDU5NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzE-?act=reply=14597> • Reply to sender <mailto:js...@nyu.edu?subject=Re%3A%20Possible%20Yellow%20legged%20Gull%20at%20Plumb%20Beach%2020150324> • Reply to group <mailto:ebirds...@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Possible%20Yellow%20legged%20Gull%20at%20Plumb%20Beach%2020150324> • Start a New Topic<https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJmZG5hajZxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzE-> • Messages in this topic<https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/conversations/topics/14597;_ylc=X3oDMTM3bmg5anZ0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRtc2dJZAMxNDU5NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzEEdHBjSWQDMTQ1OTc-> (1) ebirdsnyc: bird sightings from the NYC area Visit Your Group<https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMGFoM3VkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzE-> * New Members<https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/members/all;_ylc=X3oDMTJnb28xZTZiBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxNDI3MjI3Mzcx> 2 [Yahoo! Groups]<https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJlbzY3OG1nBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTQyNzIyNzM3MQ--> • Privacy<https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html> • Unsubscribe<mailto:ebirdsnyc-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> • Terms of Use<https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/> . __,_._,___ -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME> Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> Archives: The Mail Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L> BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html> Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! -- Connect with CSI on Social Media><http://csitoday.com/social_media/> -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Squassax Landing - Carmans River
I went down to the mouth of the Carmans River right before sunset. Plenty of ducks (including 1 pied-billed grebe) a Great Blue Heron and distant Osprey. No eagles, but what was interesting was the presence of at least 5 Northern Harriers (no adult males). -- - Luke www.birdsoflongisland.blogspot.com -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: [ebirdsnyc] Possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach 20150324
Thanks for sharing. We haven't had any gull ID discussions on this list in quite a while. I think it's worth pointing out that herring gull-like birds showing yellow or yellowish legs are reported from our area from time to time and recall one that was discussed on this list from the Howard Beach area of Jamaica Bay about 10 years ago and there have been others photographed elsewhere. What these are exactly is unclear but everything except the leg color seems consistent with American Herring Gull (*L. smithsonianus*). The most plausible explanation for the odd leg color in my view is a transient effect of birds coming into breeding condition. Getting back to this current bird it is important to note that it has a very obvious yellow orbital ring, which fits American Herring Gull (typically yellow to orange-yellow). In addition to a darker mantle, nominate Yellow-legged Gull (L. *michahellis*) or the more Lesser Black-back Gull-like 'Azorian' and 'Lusitanian' Yellow-legged gulls ( *atlantis* and* lusitanius*) should have an obviously RED orbital ring. Not to beat up on anyone but with large gulls variation in plumage and soft-part color is such that its very important to base any identification on a suite of positive characters, not just one or two. Angus Wilson New York City, NY On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Andrew Baksh wrote: > FYI... The back on this gull looks too pale for Yellow Legged Gull but I > thought I would share. > > Sent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From:* "js...@nyu.edu [ebirdsnyc]" > *Date:* March 24, 2015 at 4:02:50 PM EDT > *To:* > *Subject:* *[ebirdsnyc] Possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach > 20150324* > *Reply-To:* js...@nyu.edu > > > > Today at 10:30 AM an isolated possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach. > Near a group of 12 Oystercatchers and 40 Brant, > > I am not an expert, any feedback is welcome. I have additional images if > needed. > > Thank you. > > Juan Salas > > > > Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/> >[image: image] > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/> > Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/> > Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. > View on www.flickr.com > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/> > Preview by Yahoo > > Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/> >[image: image] > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/> > Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/> > Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. > View on www.flickr.com > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/> > Preview by Yahoo > > > > __._,_.___ > -- > Posted by: js...@nyu.edu > -- > Reply via web post > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/conversations/messages/14597;_ylc=X3oDMTJyYXIzamxvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRtc2dJZAMxNDU5NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzE-?act=reply=14597> > • Reply to sender > > • Reply to group > > • Start a New Topic > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJmZG5hajZxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzE-> > • Messages in this topic > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/conversations/topics/14597;_ylc=X3oDMTM3bmg5anZ0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRtc2dJZAMxNDU5NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzEEdHBjSWQDMTQ1OTc-> > (1) > ebirdsnyc: bird sightings from the NYC area > Visit Your Group > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMGFoM3VkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzE-> > >- New Members > > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/members/all;_ylc=X3oDMTJnb28xZTZiBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxNDI3MjI3Mzcx> >2 > > [image: Yahoo! Groups] > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJlbzY3OG1nBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTQyNzIyNzM3MQ--> > • Privacy <https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html&g
Re:[nysbirds-l] [ebirdsnyc] Possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach 20150324
I have uploaded a crop of the eyering here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16300143723/ Thank you for the feedback. I agree that the mantle is lighter than expected for YLGU, and the eyering might not be fleshy (or red) enough for YLGU. Juan On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Andrew Baksh wrote: > Shane Blodgett, who was in the field when I called him about the report > also was not convinced by the mantle color even though he was looking at > the photos on his phone. > > Andrew > > On Mar 24, 2015, at 4:50 PM, Dominic Garcia-Hall > wrote: > > A a European migrant myself, with some familiarity with these, I'd be > hesitant to call it. Can't see much color on the gape - would expect red > 'line' and lining - matching eye ring color. > Mantle color really quite variable and also hard to judge. > But I'm not really a gull person. Happy to stand corrected. > Dom > > www.aventuraargentina.com > > www.antbirder.blogspot.com > > + 1 646 429 2667 > > On 24 March 2015 at 16:40, Andrew Baksh birdingd...@gmail.com [ebirdsnyc] > wrote: > >> >> >> Good points Phil. A few more things in favor "for" are the the bill and >> head which is very clean. I have not attempted to blow up any of the photos >> to look more closely at the orbital ring. >> >> The mantle though is where I am uncertain as it seems so pale. >> >> Andrew >> >> On Mar 24, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Phil Jeffrey phil.jeff...@gmail.com >> [ebirdsnyc] wrote: >> >> >> >> I'd refer you to gull-research.org, which isn't always the easiest thing >> to read. e.g. http://www.gull-research.org/ylgadsubad/admar/06cymar.htm >> >> Nevertheless my understanding of L. michahellis, while limited, is that >> it'll have a red-orange eye orbital ring while your bird has a yellow or >> yellow-orange one. >> http://www.audubon.org/field-guide/bird/yellow-legged-gull shows this >> fairly well. >> You'd probably want side-by-side shots with smithonianus Herring gulls to >> highlight any structure differences (and, apropos Andrew's comment, mantle >> shade which is really difficult to assess from isolated photos). >> >> Back in 2004 Pete Shen found a yellow-legged Herring Gull at Jamaica >> Bay. We posted the images on BIRDWG01 and the consensus was that this was >> an odd (American) Herring Gull. I suspect the Plumb Beach bird might be >> the adult alternate version of this anomaly but I'd be interested in >> dissenters from this view since Yellow-legged is very rare in the USA. >> My page hosting Pete's pictures is still up, at: >> http://www.philjeffrey.net/ylhg.html >> >> Phil >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:02 PM, js...@nyu.edu [ebirdsnyc] < >> ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Today at 10:30 AM an isolated possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb >>> Beach. Near a group of 12 Oystercatchers and 40 Brant, >>> >>> I am not an expert, any feedback is welcome. I have additional images if >>> needed. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Juan Salas >>> >>> >>> >>> Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 >>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/> >>>[image: image] >>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/> >>> Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 >>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/> >>> Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. >>> View on www.flickr.com >>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/> >>> Preview by Yahoo >>> >>> Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 >>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/> >>>[image: image] >>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/> >>> Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 >>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/> >>> Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. >>> View on www.flickr.com >>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/> >>> Preview by Yahoo >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> "If you lie to the compiler, it will get its revenge" >> - Henr
Re:[nysbirds-l] [ebirdsnyc] Possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach 20150324
Shane Blodgett, who was in the field when I called him about the report also was not convinced by the mantle color even though he was looking at the photos on his phone. Andrew > On Mar 24, 2015, at 4:50 PM, Dominic Garcia-Hall > wrote: > > A a European migrant myself, with some familiarity with these, I'd be > hesitant to call it. Can't see much color on the gape - would expect red > 'line' and lining - matching eye ring color. > Mantle color really quite variable and also hard to judge. > But I'm not really a gull person. Happy to stand corrected. > Dom > > www.aventuraargentina.com > > www.antbirder.blogspot.com > > + 1 646 429 2667 > >> On 24 March 2015 at 16:40, Andrew Baksh birdingd...@gmail.com [ebirdsnyc] >> wrote: >> >> Good points Phil. A few more things in favor "for" are the the bill and head >> which is very clean. I have not attempted to blow up any of the photos to >> look more closely at the orbital ring. >> >> The mantle though is where I am uncertain as it seems so pale. >> >> Andrew >> >>> On Mar 24, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Phil Jeffrey phil.jeff...@gmail.com >>> [ebirdsnyc] wrote: >>> >>> >>> I'd refer you to gull-research.org, which isn't always the easiest thing to >>> read. e.g. http://www.gull-research.org/ylgadsubad/admar/06cymar.htm >>> >>> Nevertheless my understanding of L. michahellis, while limited, is that >>> it'll have a red-orange eye orbital ring while your bird has a yellow or >>> yellow-orange one. >>> http://www.audubon.org/field-guide/bird/yellow-legged-gull shows this >>> fairly well. >>> You'd probably want side-by-side shots with smithonianus Herring gulls to >>> highlight any structure differences (and, apropos Andrew's comment, mantle >>> shade which is really difficult to assess from isolated photos). >>> >>> Back in 2004 Pete Shen found a yellow-legged Herring Gull at Jamaica Bay. >>> We posted the images on BIRDWG01 and the consensus was that this was an odd >>> (American) Herring Gull. I suspect the Plumb Beach bird might be the adult >>> alternate version of this anomaly but I'd be interested in dissenters from >>> this view since Yellow-legged is very rare in the USA. >>> My page hosting Pete's pictures is still up, at: >>> http://www.philjeffrey.net/ylhg.html >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:02 PM, js...@nyu.edu [ebirdsnyc] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Today at 10:30 AM an isolated possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach. >>>> Near a group of 12 Oystercatchers and 40 Brant, >>>> >>>> I am not an expert, any feedback is welcome. I have additional images if >>>> needed. >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Juan Salas >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 >>>> >>>> >>>> Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 >>>> Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. >>>> View on www.flickr.com >>>> Preview by Yahoo >>>> Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 >>>> >>>> >>>> Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 >>>> Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. >>>> View on www.flickr.com >>>> Preview by Yahoo >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "If you lie to the compiler, it will get its revenge" >>> - Henry Spencer >> >> __._,_.___ >> Posted by: Andrew Baksh >> Reply via web post • Reply to sender >> • Reply to group • >> Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (3) >> >> ebirdsnyc: bird sightings from the NYC area >> VISIT YOUR GROUP New Members 2 >> • Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use >> . >> >> >> __,_._,___ > -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Fwd: [ebirdsnyc] Possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach 20150324
FYI... The back on this gull looks too pale for Yellow Legged Gull but I thought I would share. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: "js...@nyu.edu [ebirdsnyc]" > Date: March 24, 2015 at 4:02:50 PM EDT > To: > Subject: [ebirdsnyc] Possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach 20150324 > Reply-To: js...@nyu.edu > > Today at 10:30 AM an isolated possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach. > Near a group of 12 Oystercatchers and 40 Brant, > > I am not an expert, any feedback is welcome. I have additional images if > needed. > > Thank you. > > Juan Salas > > > > > > Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 > > > Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 > Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. > View on www.flickr.com > Preview by Yahoo > Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 > > > Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 > Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. > View on www.flickr.com > Preview by Yahoo > > > __._,_.___ > Posted by: js...@nyu.edu > Reply via web post• Reply to sender > • Reply to group • Start > a New Topic • Messages in this topic (1) > > ebirdsnyc: bird sightings from the NYC area > VISIT YOUR GROUP New Members 2 > • Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use > . > > > __,_._,___ -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] EXTRALIMITAL REPORT: SURFBIRD in Maine
For shorebird-philes and/or those inclined to make long-range chases, a SURFBIRD was found in Biddeford Pool, Maine this past Saturday and was still present today. Details and photos at the links below. http://birding.aba.org/maillist/MAINE http://ebird.org/ebird/map/surfbi?neg=true=false=false=Z=on=3=3=cur https://www.flickr.com/photos/92299831@N05/with/16710782770/ John Gluth Suffolk County -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Roland Clement Remembered
Birder's et al, I have put together information & direction for those that may or may not be attending the memorial service this afternoon for Roland C. Clement. http://t.co/nrU3TTVkIF Mr. Clement, You will be missed and remember by many who had the privilege of knowing you and the great work and love you had for birds and the natural world. Mardi Dickinson Norwalk, CT www.kymrygroup.com -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Roland Clement Remembered
Birder's et al, I have put together information direction for those that may or may not be attending the memorial service this afternoon for Roland C. Clement. http://t.co/nrU3TTVkIF Mr. Clement, You will be missed and remember by many who had the privilege of knowing you and the great work and love you had for birds and the natural world. Mardi Dickinson Norwalk, CT www.kymrygroup.com -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Squassax Landing - Carmans River
I went down to the mouth of the Carmans River right before sunset. Plenty of ducks (including 1 pied-billed grebe) a Great Blue Heron and distant Osprey. No eagles, but what was interesting was the presence of at least 5 Northern Harriers (no adult males). -- - Luke www.birdsoflongisland.blogspot.com -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Drake Eurasian Wigeon - Pelham Bay Park, Bronx NY Tuesday March 22.
Drake Eurasian Wigeon - Pelham Bay Park, Bronx NY Tuesday March 22. Today while birding in Pelham Bay Park Bob DeCandido I saw a male Eurasian Wigeon off Hunter Island. Here are some photos of the bird: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17992512 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17992514 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17992516 Other ducks seen nearby: Gadwall, American Wigeon, American Black Duck, Mallard, Bufflehead, Common Goldeneye (3), and Red-breasted Merganser. We also saw four American Oystercatchers. Otherwise a quiet day. Deborah Allen Bronx, NY -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: [ebirdsnyc] Possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach 20150324
Yellow legged Herring Gull it is. I thank you all for the feedback. Angus Wilson, point taken. Shaibal Mitra's excellent pictures of a yellow legged Herring Gull seem to show an even darker mantled individual. It has been a great opportunity for me to learn. Thank you. Juan Salas On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:07 PM, Shaibal Mitra shaibal.mi...@csi.cuny.edu wrote: Both of our common large gull species, Herring and Great Black-backed, occasionally deviate from their usual dull pink legs to more or less yellow legs. Some examples of this phenomenon can be seen starting here: https://picasaweb.google.com/109808209543611018404/LaridaeIIHerringGreatBlackBackedGulls#5376517305977522738 *From:* js...@nyu.edu [ebirdsnyc] ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com *Date:* March 24, 2015 at 4:02:50 PM EDT *To:* ebirds...@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* *[ebirdsnyc] Possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach 20150324* *Reply-To:* js...@nyu.edu Today at 10:30 AM an isolated possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach. Near a group of 12 Oystercatchers and 40 Brant, I am not an expert, any feedback is welcome. I have additional images if needed. Thank you. Juan Salas Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/ [image: image] https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/ Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/ Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. View on www.flickr.com https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/ Preview by Yahoo Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/ [image: image] https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/ Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/ Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. View on www.flickr.com https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/ Preview by Yahoo __._,_.___ -- Posted by: js...@nyu.edu -- Reply via web post https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/conversations/messages/14597;_ylc=X3oDMTJyYXIzamxvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRtc2dJZAMxNDU5NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzE-?act=replymessageNum=14597 • Reply to sender js...@nyu.edu?subject=Re%3A%20Possible%20Yellow%20legged%20Gull%20at%20Plumb%20Beach%2020150324 • Reply to group ebirds...@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Possible%20Yellow%20legged%20Gull%20at%20Plumb%20Beach%2020150324 • Start a New Topic https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJmZG5hajZxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzE- • Messages in this topic https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/conversations/topics/14597;_ylc=X3oDMTM3bmg5anZ0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRtc2dJZAMxNDU5NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzEEdHBjSWQDMTQ1OTc- (1) ebirdsnyc: bird sightings from the NYC area Visit Your Group https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMGFoM3VkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzE- - New Members https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/members/all;_ylc=X3oDMTJnb28xZTZiBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxNDI3MjI3Mzcx 2 [image: Yahoo! Groups] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJlbzY3OG1nBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTQyNzIyNzM3MQ-- • Privacy https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html • Unsubscribe ebirdsnyc-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe • Terms of Use https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/ . __,_._,___ -- *NYSbirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leave http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archive http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html *Please submit your observations to **eBird* http://ebird.org/content/ebird/*!* -- -- Connect with CSI on Social Media http://csitoday.com/social_media/ -- *NYSbirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http
[nysbirds-l] Yellow-legged HEGU
Another example from Floyd Bennett Field/Brooklyn a couple of years ago: https://picasaweb.google.com/aplomadoperegrine/YellowLeggedHEGU Shane Sent from my iPhone -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: RE: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: [ebirdsnyc] Possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach 20150324
Does anyone have an idea as to the cause for the different coloration in the legs. Could it be diet related? John Turner - Original Message - From: Shaibal Mitra Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 10:08 pm Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: [ebirdsnyc] Possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach 20150324 To: NYSBIRDS-L Both of our common large gull species, Herring and Great Black- backed, occasionally deviate from their usual dull pink legs to more or less yellow legs. Some examples of this phenomenon can be seen starting here: https://picasaweb.google.com/109808209543611018404/LaridaeIIHerringGreatBlackBackedGulls#5376517305977522738 From: js...@nyu.edu [ebirdsnyc] nore...@yahoogroups.comDate: March 24, 2015 at 4:02:50 PM EDT To: Subject: [ebirdsnyc] Possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach 20150324Reply-To: js...@nyu.edu Today at 10:30 AM an isolated possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach. Near a group of 12 Oystercatchers and 40 Brant, I am not an expert, any feedback is welcome. I have additional images if needed. Thank you. Juan Salas Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 [image] Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. View on www.flickr.com Preview by Yahoo Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 [image] Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. View on www.flickr.com Preview by Yahoo __._,_.___ Posted by: js...@nyu.edu Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (1) ebirdsnyc: bird sightings from the NYC area Visit Your Group * New Members 2 [Yahoo! Groups] • Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___ -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives: The Mail Archive l...@cornell.edu/maillist.htmlSurfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird!-- Connect with CSI on Social Media -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: [ebirdsnyc] Possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach 20150324
Both of our common large gull species, Herring and Great Black-backed, occasionally deviate from their usual dull pink legs to more or less yellow legs. Some examples of this phenomenon can be seen starting here: https://picasaweb.google.com/109808209543611018404/LaridaeIIHerringGreatBlackBackedGulls#5376517305977522738 From: js...@nyu.edumailto:js...@nyu.edu [ebirdsnyc] ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.commailto:ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com Date: March 24, 2015 at 4:02:50 PM EDT To: ebirds...@yahoogroups.commailto:ebirds...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ebirdsnyc] Possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach 20150324 Reply-To: js...@nyu.edumailto:js...@nyu.edu Today at 10:30 AM an isolated possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach. Near a group of 12 Oystercatchers and 40 Brant, I am not an expert, any feedback is welcome. I have additional images if needed. Thank you. Juan Salas Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/ [image] https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/ Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/ Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. View on www.flickr.com https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/ Preview by Yahoo Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/ [image] https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/ Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/ Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. View on www.flickr.com https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/ Preview by Yahoo __._,_.___ Posted by: js...@nyu.edumailto:js...@nyu.edu Reply via web posthttps://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/conversations/messages/14597;_ylc=X3oDMTJyYXIzamxvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRtc2dJZAMxNDU5NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzE-?act=replymessageNum=14597 • Reply to sender mailto:js...@nyu.edu?subject=Re%3A%20Possible%20Yellow%20legged%20Gull%20at%20Plumb%20Beach%2020150324 • Reply to group mailto:ebirds...@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Possible%20Yellow%20legged%20Gull%20at%20Plumb%20Beach%2020150324 • Start a New Topichttps://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJmZG5hajZxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzE- • Messages in this topichttps://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/conversations/topics/14597;_ylc=X3oDMTM3bmg5anZ0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRtc2dJZAMxNDU5NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzEEdHBjSWQDMTQ1OTc- (1) ebirdsnyc: bird sightings from the NYC area Visit Your Grouphttps://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMGFoM3VkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzE- * New Membershttps://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/members/all;_ylc=X3oDMTJnb28xZTZiBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxNDI3MjI3Mzcx 2 [Yahoo! Groups]https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJlbzY3OG1nBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTQyNzIyNzM3MQ-- • Privacyhttps://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html • Unsubscribemailto:ebirdsnyc-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe • Terms of Usehttps://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/ . __,_._,___ -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- Connect with CSI on Social Mediahttp://csitoday.com/social_media/ -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re:[nysbirds-l] Drake Eurasian Wigeon - Pelham Bay Park, Bronx NY Tuesday March 22 - should be March 24..
Sorry, I meant to say Drake Eurasian Wigeon - Pelham Bay Park, Bronx, NY Tuesday March 24. -Original Message- From: Deborah Allen dalle...@earthlink.net Sent: Mar 24, 2015 11:42 PM To: NYSBIRDS-L NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu Subject: Drake Eurasian Wigeon - Pelham Bay Park, Bronx NY Tuesday March 22. Drake Eurasian Wigeon - Pelham Bay Park, Bronx NY Tuesday March 22. Today while birding in Pelham Bay Park Bob DeCandido I saw a male Eurasian Wigeon off Hunter Island. Here are some photos of the bird: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17992512 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17992514 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17992516 Other ducks seen nearby: Gadwall, American Wigeon, American Black Duck, Mallard, Bufflehead, Common Goldeneye (3), and Red-breasted Merganser. We also saw four American Oystercatchers. Otherwise a quiet day. Deborah Allen Bronx, NY -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] EXTRALIMITAL REPORT: SURFBIRD in Maine
For shorebird-philes and/or those inclined to make long-range chases, a SURFBIRD was found in Biddeford Pool, Maine this past Saturday and was still present today. Details and photos at the links below. http://birding.aba.org/maillist/MAINE http://ebird.org/ebird/map/surfbi?neg=trueenv.minX=env.minY=env.maxX=env.maxY=zh=falsegp=falseev=Zmr=onbmo=3emo=3yr=cur https://www.flickr.com/photos/92299831@N05/with/16710782770/ John Gluth Suffolk County -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re:[nysbirds-l] [ebirdsnyc] Possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach 20150324
Shane Blodgett, who was in the field when I called him about the report also was not convinced by the mantle color even though he was looking at the photos on his phone. Andrew On Mar 24, 2015, at 4:50 PM, Dominic Garcia-Hall dominic.h...@gmail.com wrote: A a European migrant myself, with some familiarity with these, I'd be hesitant to call it. Can't see much color on the gape - would expect red 'line' and lining - matching eye ring color. Mantle color really quite variable and also hard to judge. But I'm not really a gull person. Happy to stand corrected. Dom www.aventuraargentina.com www.antbirder.blogspot.com + 1 646 429 2667 On 24 March 2015 at 16:40, Andrew Baksh birdingd...@gmail.com [ebirdsnyc] ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Good points Phil. A few more things in favor for are the the bill and head which is very clean. I have not attempted to blow up any of the photos to look more closely at the orbital ring. The mantle though is where I am uncertain as it seems so pale. Andrew On Mar 24, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Phil Jeffrey phil.jeff...@gmail.com [ebirdsnyc] ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I'd refer you to gull-research.org, which isn't always the easiest thing to read. e.g. http://www.gull-research.org/ylgadsubad/admar/06cymar.htm Nevertheless my understanding of L. michahellis, while limited, is that it'll have a red-orange eye orbital ring while your bird has a yellow or yellow-orange one. http://www.audubon.org/field-guide/bird/yellow-legged-gull shows this fairly well. You'd probably want side-by-side shots with smithonianus Herring gulls to highlight any structure differences (and, apropos Andrew's comment, mantle shade which is really difficult to assess from isolated photos). Back in 2004 Pete Shen found a yellow-legged Herring Gull at Jamaica Bay. We posted the images on BIRDWG01 and the consensus was that this was an odd (American) Herring Gull. I suspect the Plumb Beach bird might be the adult alternate version of this anomaly but I'd be interested in dissenters from this view since Yellow-legged is very rare in the USA. My page hosting Pete's pictures is still up, at: http://www.philjeffrey.net/ylhg.html Phil On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:02 PM, js...@nyu.edu [ebirdsnyc] ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Today at 10:30 AM an isolated possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach. Near a group of 12 Oystercatchers and 40 Brant, I am not an expert, any feedback is welcome. I have additional images if needed. Thank you. Juan Salas Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. View on www.flickr.com Preview by Yahoo Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. View on www.flickr.com Preview by Yahoo -- If you lie to the compiler, it will get its revenge - Henry Spencer __._,_.___ Posted by: Andrew Baksh birdingd...@gmail.com Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (3) ebirdsnyc: bird sightings from the NYC area VISIT YOUR GROUP New Members 2 • Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___ -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re:[nysbirds-l] [ebirdsnyc] Possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach 20150324
I have uploaded a crop of the eyering here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16300143723/ Thank you for the feedback. I agree that the mantle is lighter than expected for YLGU, and the eyering might not be fleshy (or red) enough for YLGU. Juan On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Andrew Baksh birdingd...@gmail.com wrote: Shane Blodgett, who was in the field when I called him about the report also was not convinced by the mantle color even though he was looking at the photos on his phone. Andrew On Mar 24, 2015, at 4:50 PM, Dominic Garcia-Hall dominic.h...@gmail.com wrote: A a European migrant myself, with some familiarity with these, I'd be hesitant to call it. Can't see much color on the gape - would expect red 'line' and lining - matching eye ring color. Mantle color really quite variable and also hard to judge. But I'm not really a gull person. Happy to stand corrected. Dom www.aventuraargentina.com www.antbirder.blogspot.com + 1 646 429 2667 On 24 March 2015 at 16:40, Andrew Baksh birdingd...@gmail.com [ebirdsnyc] ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Good points Phil. A few more things in favor for are the the bill and head which is very clean. I have not attempted to blow up any of the photos to look more closely at the orbital ring. The mantle though is where I am uncertain as it seems so pale. Andrew On Mar 24, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Phil Jeffrey phil.jeff...@gmail.com [ebirdsnyc] ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I'd refer you to gull-research.org, which isn't always the easiest thing to read. e.g. http://www.gull-research.org/ylgadsubad/admar/06cymar.htm Nevertheless my understanding of L. michahellis, while limited, is that it'll have a red-orange eye orbital ring while your bird has a yellow or yellow-orange one. http://www.audubon.org/field-guide/bird/yellow-legged-gull shows this fairly well. You'd probably want side-by-side shots with smithonianus Herring gulls to highlight any structure differences (and, apropos Andrew's comment, mantle shade which is really difficult to assess from isolated photos). Back in 2004 Pete Shen found a yellow-legged Herring Gull at Jamaica Bay. We posted the images on BIRDWG01 and the consensus was that this was an odd (American) Herring Gull. I suspect the Plumb Beach bird might be the adult alternate version of this anomaly but I'd be interested in dissenters from this view since Yellow-legged is very rare in the USA. My page hosting Pete's pictures is still up, at: http://www.philjeffrey.net/ylhg.html Phil On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:02 PM, js...@nyu.edu [ebirdsnyc] ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Today at 10:30 AM an isolated possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach. Near a group of 12 Oystercatchers and 40 Brant, I am not an expert, any feedback is welcome. I have additional images if needed. Thank you. Juan Salas Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/ [image: image] https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/ Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/ Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. View on www.flickr.com https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/ Preview by Yahoo Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/ [image: image] https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/ Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/ Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. View on www.flickr.com https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/ Preview by Yahoo -- If you lie to the compiler, it will get its revenge - Henry Spencer __._,_.___ -- Posted by: Andrew Baksh birdingd...@gmail.com -- Reply via web post https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/conversations/messages/14599;_ylc=X3oDMTJydmVodTNoBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRtc2dJZAMxNDU5OQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjk2MTM-?act=replymessageNum=14599 • Reply to sender birdingd...@gmail.com?subject=Re%3A%20%5Bebirdsnyc%5D%20Possible%20Yellow%20legged%20Gull%20at%20Plumb%20Beach%2020150324 • Reply to group ebirds...@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20%5Bebirdsnyc%5D%20Possible%20Yellow%20legged%20Gull%20at%20Plumb%20Beach%2020150324 • Start a New Topic https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJmdGVrZDEyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjk2MTM- • Messages in this topic https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/conversations/topics
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Thanks for sharing. We haven't had any gull ID discussions on this list in quite a while. I think it's worth pointing out that herring gull-like birds showing yellow or yellowish legs are reported from our area from time to time and recall one that was discussed on this list from the Howard Beach area of Jamaica Bay about 10 years ago and there have been others photographed elsewhere. What these are exactly is unclear but everything except the leg color seems consistent with American Herring Gull (*L. smithsonianus*). The most plausible explanation for the odd leg color in my view is a transient effect of birds coming into breeding condition. Getting back to this current bird it is important to note that it has a very obvious yellow orbital ring, which fits American Herring Gull (typically yellow to orange-yellow). In addition to a darker mantle, nominate Yellow-legged Gull (L. *michahellis*) or the more Lesser Black-back Gull-like 'Azorian' and 'Lusitanian' Yellow-legged gulls ( *atlantis* and* lusitanius*) should have an obviously RED orbital ring. Not to beat up on anyone but with large gulls variation in plumage and soft-part color is such that its very important to base any identification on a suite of positive characters, not just one or two. Angus Wilson New York City, NY On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Andrew Baksh birdingd...@gmail.com wrote: FYI... The back on this gull looks too pale for Yellow Legged Gull but I thought I would share. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: *From:* js...@nyu.edu [ebirdsnyc] ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com *Date:* March 24, 2015 at 4:02:50 PM EDT *To:* ebirds...@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* *[ebirdsnyc] Possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach 20150324* *Reply-To:* js...@nyu.edu Today at 10:30 AM an isolated possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach. Near a group of 12 Oystercatchers and 40 Brant, I am not an expert, any feedback is welcome. I have additional images if needed. Thank you. Juan Salas Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/ [image: image] https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/ Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/ Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. View on www.flickr.com https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617686/ Preview by Yahoo Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/ [image: image] https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/ Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/ Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. View on www.flickr.com https://www.flickr.com/photos/23604521@N00/16893617496/in/photostream/ Preview by Yahoo __._,_.___ -- Posted by: js...@nyu.edu -- Reply via web post https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/conversations/messages/14597;_ylc=X3oDMTJyYXIzamxvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRtc2dJZAMxNDU5NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzE-?act=replymessageNum=14597 • Reply to sender js...@nyu.edu?subject=Re%3A%20Possible%20Yellow%20legged%20Gull%20at%20Plumb%20Beach%2020150324 • Reply to group ebirds...@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Possible%20Yellow%20legged%20Gull%20at%20Plumb%20Beach%2020150324 • Start a New Topic https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJmZG5hajZxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzE- • Messages in this topic https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/conversations/topics/14597;_ylc=X3oDMTM3bmg5anZ0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRtc2dJZAMxNDU5NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzEEdHBjSWQDMTQ1OTc- (1) ebirdsnyc: bird sightings from the NYC area Visit Your Group https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMGFoM3VkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0MjcyMjczNzE- - New Members https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/members/all;_ylc=X3oDMTJnb28xZTZiBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxNDI3MjI3Mzcx 2 [image: Yahoo! Groups] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJlbzY3OG1nBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTQyNzIyNzM3MQ-- • Privacy https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html • Unsubscribe ebirdsnyc-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe • Terms of Use https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms
