Re: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 2905] I Have Never Seen This Before !!

[Rick & Linda]

Thanks Arie, Shai & Nancy Jane,
Upon reflection I concur with what you have to say. Although it was still a 
shock to see the bird still twitching as it was being eaten.

I was worried that the squirrel might have rabies and that was the reason for, 
what I thought of, it’s aberrant behavior.
Thanks for the feed back. Pun intended.
rk

> On Dec 9, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Shaibal Mitra <shaibal.mi...@csi.cuny.edu> wrote:
> 
> Benign explanations, such as hunger or calcium deficit, are certainly 
> plausible, but I wouldn't rule out depravity. These little mammals are smart 
> enough that they probably form some sort of conviction of right and 
> wrong--along with the concomitant and irresistible urge to transgress.
> 
> When I lived on the South Side of Chicago in the early 90s, I kept notes on 
> what the squirrels ate. Bagels, pizza, and other high-carb items were 
> visually amusing in their little paws, but not notably deviant. Battered and 
> fried drumsticks from Harold's Chicken Shack took the optics to a new plane, 
> especially when spun as dexterously as a pine cone between furry little 
> fingers. The worst was one deplorable individual whom I discovered dragging a 
> fairly large slab of pork ribs with its mouth. To test whether it really 
> needed the ribs in some pardonable way, or was just too far gone in some 
> moral abyss, I approached the rodent to assess the point at which 
> self-preservation might take over from gluttony. It would not let go! I could 
> have caught it, but what good would that have done? I walked away, Desiderata 
> in my mind's ear. 
> 
> Shai Mitra
> Bay Shore 
> 
> From: bounce-121071794-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
> [bounce-121071794-3714...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Nancy Jane Kern 
> [kerns...@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 12:21 PM
> To: NYS BIRDS; Rick & Linda
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 2905] I Have Never Seen This Before 
> !!
> 
> I have seen gray squirrels gnaw on a deer carcass, regularly eat suet, eat on 
> road kill, and chew MacDonald's hamburgers taken out of a dumpster in Albany. 
> Not that often, but some will do it. Maybe it relates to their level of 
> hunger.
> 
> 
> Nancy Kern
> 
> 
> Austerlitz, NY
> 
> Columbia County
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: bounce-121071743-44613...@list.cornell.edu 
> <bounce-121071743-44613...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of Rick & Linda 
> <kedenb...@optonline.net>
> Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 12:05 PM
> To: NYS BIRDS
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 2905] I Have Never Seen This Before !!
> 
> I always thought G Squirrels were vegetarians. Here are pictures of a 
> squirrel on my deck eating a DE Junco. I could not believe my eyes but there 
> it is.
> 
> I was working on my laptop this morning and heard a thump on the sliding 
> glass door. Evidently it was a DE Junco that hit the glass. I finished what I 
> was doing and went to see if the bird needed to be put in a box and kept warm 
> until it recovered.
> When I got to the door I saw the squirrel already had the birds head off and 
> was eating the rest.
> 
> I have never seen this before, has anyone else?
> 
> I frequently throw out leftover wet cat food, fat and other table scraps that 
> the Bluejays and Blackbirds enjoy but the squirrels always turn their noses 
> up at that food.
> 
> She ate the whole bird and I spotted her later with only feathers stuck to 
> her head and leg.
> 
> This is a first for me and I don’t know if I like the idea of a carnivorous 
> squirrel.
> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 2905] I Have Never Seen This Before !!

[Rick & Linda]

Thanks Arie, Shai & Nancy Jane,
Upon reflection I concur with what you have to say. Although it was still a 
shock to see the bird still twitching as it was being eaten.

I was worried that the squirrel might have rabies and that was the reason for, 
what I thought of, it’s aberrant behavior.
Thanks for the feed back. Pun intended.
rk

> On Dec 9, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Shaibal Mitra  wrote:
> 
> Benign explanations, such as hunger or calcium deficit, are certainly 
> plausible, but I wouldn't rule out depravity. These little mammals are smart 
> enough that they probably form some sort of conviction of right and 
> wrong--along with the concomitant and irresistible urge to transgress.
> 
> When I lived on the South Side of Chicago in the early 90s, I kept notes on 
> what the squirrels ate. Bagels, pizza, and other high-carb items were 
> visually amusing in their little paws, but not notably deviant. Battered and 
> fried drumsticks from Harold's Chicken Shack took the optics to a new plane, 
> especially when spun as dexterously as a pine cone between furry little 
> fingers. The worst was one deplorable individual whom I discovered dragging a 
> fairly large slab of pork ribs with its mouth. To test whether it really 
> needed the ribs in some pardonable way, or was just too far gone in some 
> moral abyss, I approached the rodent to assess the point at which 
> self-preservation might take over from gluttony. It would not let go! I could 
> have caught it, but what good would that have done? I walked away, Desiderata 
> in my mind's ear. 
> 
> Shai Mitra
> Bay Shore 
> 
> From: bounce-121071794-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
> [bounce-121071794-3714...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Nancy Jane Kern 
> [kerns...@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 12:21 PM
> To: NYS BIRDS; Rick & Linda
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 2905] I Have Never Seen This Before 
> !!
> 
> I have seen gray squirrels gnaw on a deer carcass, regularly eat suet, eat on 
> road kill, and chew MacDonald's hamburgers taken out of a dumpster in Albany. 
> Not that often, but some will do it. Maybe it relates to their level of 
> hunger.
> 
> 
> Nancy Kern
> 
> 
> Austerlitz, NY
> 
> Columbia County
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: bounce-121071743-44613...@list.cornell.edu 
>  on behalf of Rick & Linda 
> 
> Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 12:05 PM
> To: NYS BIRDS
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 2905] I Have Never Seen This Before !!
> 
> I always thought G Squirrels were vegetarians. Here are pictures of a 
> squirrel on my deck eating a DE Junco. I could not believe my eyes but there 
> it is.
> 
> I was working on my laptop this morning and heard a thump on the sliding 
> glass door. Evidently it was a DE Junco that hit the glass. I finished what I 
> was doing and went to see if the bird needed to be put in a box and kept warm 
> until it recovered.
> When I got to the door I saw the squirrel already had the birds head off and 
> was eating the rest.
> 
> I have never seen this before, has anyone else?
> 
> I frequently throw out leftover wet cat food, fat and other table scraps that 
> the Bluejays and Blackbirds enjoy but the squirrels always turn their noses 
> up at that food.
> 
> She ate the whole bird and I spotted her later with only feathers stuck to 
> her head and leg.
> 
> This is a first for me and I don’t know if I like the idea of a carnivorous 
> squirrel.
> 
> [cid:DFE8FBDE-B4B2-4B9F-9531-FCBFB311FC21]
> 
> IMG_9673
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> 
> [cid:10AC657C-5218-4F3E-8109-F2AEEABD5C2A]
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> 
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> [cid:272CDC01-2A40-4AEB-9A34-7B02B0BFF996]
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[nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 2905] I Have Never Seen This Before !!

[Rick & Linda]

I always thought G Squirrels were vegetarians. Here are pictures of a squirrel 
on my deck eating a DE Junco. I could not believe my eyes but there it is.

I was working on my laptop this morning and heard a thump on the sliding glass 
door. Evidently it was a DE Junco that hit the glass. I finished what I was 
doing and went to see if the bird needed to be put in a box and kept warm until 
it recovered. 
When I got to the door I saw the squirrel already had the birds head off and 
was eating the rest.

I have never seen this before, has anyone else?

I frequently throw out leftover wet cat food, fat and other table scraps that 
the Bluejays and Blackbirds enjoy but the squirrels always turn their noses up 
at that food.

She ate the whole bird and I spotted her later with only feathers stuck to her 
head and leg.

This is a first for me and I don’t know if I like the idea of a carnivorous 
squirrel. 



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[nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 2905] I Have Never Seen This Before !!

[Rick & Linda]

I always thought G Squirrels were vegetarians. Here are pictures of a squirrel 
on my deck eating a DE Junco. I could not believe my eyes but there it is.

I was working on my laptop this morning and heard a thump on the sliding glass 
door. Evidently it was a DE Junco that hit the glass. I finished what I was 
doing and went to see if the bird needed to be put in a box and kept warm until 
it recovered. 
When I got to the door I saw the squirrel already had the birds head off and 
was eating the rest.

I have never seen this before, has anyone else?

I frequently throw out leftover wet cat food, fat and other table scraps that 
the Bluejays and Blackbirds enjoy but the squirrels always turn their noses up 
at that food.

She ate the whole bird and I spotted her later with only feathers stuck to her 
head and leg.

This is a first for me and I don’t know if I like the idea of a carnivorous 
squirrel. 



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IMG_9672
 


IMG_9671
 


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[nysbirds-l] With sadness

[Rick & Linda]

It is with great sadness that I report the passing of Herb Roth.

A great conservationist friend and birding mentor to many has passed. 

Herb Roth worked tirelessly for years to keep the Theodore Roosevelt Sactuary 
in Oyster Bay going until National Audubon took it back. I could go on about 
the many good works he did for our planet and our birds.

Herb, besides being a great birder was a terrific field trip leader. I fell in 
love with my late wife, Linda Vardy, on a weekend field trip Herb led to Cape 
May. 

Queens County Bird Club, North Shore Audubon and anyone who knew him and his 
dedication to nature will be sadened by this news.





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[nysbirds-l] With sadness

[Rick & Linda]

It is with great sadness that I report the passing of Herb Roth.

A great conservationist friend and birding mentor to many has passed. 

Herb Roth worked tirelessly for years to keep the Theodore Roosevelt Sactuary 
in Oyster Bay going until National Audubon took it back. I could go on about 
the many good works he did for our planet and our birds.

Herb, besides being a great birder was a terrific field trip leader. I fell in 
love with my late wife, Linda Vardy, on a weekend field trip Herb led to Cape 
May. 

Queens County Bird Club, North Shore Audubon and anyone who knew him and his 
dedication to nature will be sadened by this news.





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[nysbirds-l] With sadness

[Rick & Linda]

It is with great sadness that I report the passing of Herb Roth.

A great conservationist friend and birding mentor to many has passed. 

Herb Roth worked tirelessly for years to keep the Theodore Roosevelt Sactuary 
in Oyster Bay going until National Audubon took it back. I could go on about 
the many good works he did for our planet and our birds.

Herb, besides being a great birder was a terrific field trip leader. I fell in 
love with my late wife, Linda Vardy, on a weekend field trip Herb led to Cape 
May. 

Queens County Bird Club, North Shore Audubon and anyone who knew him and his 
dedication to nature will be sadened by this news.

Rick Kedenburg
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[nysbirds-l] With sadness

[Rick & Linda]

It is with great sadness that I report the passing of Herb Roth.

A great conservationist friend and birding mentor to many has passed. 

Herb Roth worked tirelessly for years to keep the Theodore Roosevelt Sactuary 
in Oyster Bay going until National Audubon took it back. I could go on about 
the many good works he did for our planet and our birds.

Herb, besides being a great birder was a terrific field trip leader. I fell in 
love with my late wife, Linda Vardy, on a weekend field trip Herb led to Cape 
May. 

Queens County Bird Club, North Shore Audubon and anyone who knew him and his 
dedication to nature will be sadened by this news.

Rick Kedenburg
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Tree swallows

[Rick & Linda]

I also saw large groups of Tree Swallows passing over Southold NY here on the 
North Fork of LI earlier today.
It must be their last hurrah while heading south.
Rick & Linda
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> On Oct 11, 2016, at 1:56 PM, Eileen Wheeler <eiwhee...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> A cloud of Tree Swallows, must be thousands, observed East of Tobay Beach, 
> near Suffolk county line. At Tobay, Watched them ebb and flow from 1:15 to 
> 1:35. About 150 flew over me heading east to join the crowd. 
> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Tree swallows

[Rick & Linda]

I also saw large groups of Tree Swallows passing over Southold NY here on the 
North Fork of LI earlier today.
It must be their last hurrah while heading south.
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> On Oct 11, 2016, at 1:56 PM, Eileen Wheeler  wrote:
> 
> A cloud of Tree Swallows, must be thousands, observed East of Tobay Beach, 
> near Suffolk county line. At Tobay, Watched them ebb and flow from 1:15 to 
> 1:35. About 150 flew over me heading east to join the crowd. 
> 
> Eileen Wheeler
> Canton, NY
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[nysbirds-l] alley pond park, queens, ny

[Rick & Linda]

Alley pond park
Little alley pond

Blue-winged warbler,

American Redstart.

Yellow warbler

Rufous-sided Towhee

Cat birds in nuptial display.

Also the usual set of bird suspects and many families enjoying the week from 
school and BBQing, diversity of food very impressive. Yum Yum

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[nysbirds-l] alley pond park, queens, ny

[Rick & Linda]

Alley pond park
Little alley pond

Blue-winged warbler,

American Redstart.

Yellow warbler

Rufous-sided Towhee

Cat birds in nuptial display.

Also the usual set of bird suspects and many families enjoying the week from 
school and BBQing, diversity of food very impressive. Yum Yum

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Woodcocks Displaying, Suffolk County

[Rick & Linda]

There were two displaying in Arshamomack Preserve (Chapel Lane) Greenport last 
Monday dusk. Just to the left of the entrance trail.
It was their first display this year. More to follow I hope.

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> On Mar 11, 2016, at 7:24 PM, Mike <mike...@optonline.net> wrote:
> 
> As expected, there were several Woodcocks calling tonight in the Calverton 
> area in Suffolk County.  My FOS
> 
> Mike Cooper
> Ridge, LI, NY
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 11, 2016, at 2:06 PM, Alan Drogin <dro...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Have limited access so apologize if someone else already posted.  Just saw a 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Woodcocks Displaying, Suffolk County

[Rick & Linda]

There were two displaying in Arshamomack Preserve (Chapel Lane) Greenport last 
Monday dusk. Just to the left of the entrance trail.
It was their first display this year. More to follow I hope.

Rick & Linda
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> On Mar 11, 2016, at 7:24 PM, Mike  wrote:
> 
> As expected, there were several Woodcocks calling tonight in the Calverton 
> area in Suffolk County.  My FOS
> 
> Mike Cooper
> Ridge, LI, NY
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 11, 2016, at 2:06 PM, Alan Drogin  wrote:
>> 
>> Have limited access so apologize if someone else already posted.  Just saw a 
>> FOY woodcock hiding in the southeast corner of Bryant Park- in the shadow of 
>> the stone garden shed.  Also others noted Swamp Sparrow had not left a 
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[nysbirds-l] String fencing to protect beach nesting sparks death threat from angry resident - SoutholdLOCAL

[Rick & Linda]

I am sorry to post a non sighting but to those on this list interested in 
conservation efforts the following link is  a current  story about Piping 
Plover Restoration on the North Fork. 
The people involved in the destruction of PPL nests makes me ashamed of some of 
our North Fork citizens. Thank heavens there are good people that are willing 
to stand up for what is right.


> http://southoldlocal.com/2015/07/14/string-fencing-to-protect-beach-nesting-sparks-death-threat-from-angry-resident/?fb_action_ids=10153422385857349_action_types=og.comments
>  
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[nysbirds-l] String fencing to protect beach nesting sparks death threat from angry resident - SoutholdLOCAL

[Rick Linda]

I am sorry to post a non sighting but to those on this list interested in 
conservation efforts the following link is  a current  story about Piping 
Plover Restoration on the North Fork. 
The people involved in the destruction of PPL nests makes me ashamed of some of 
our North Fork citizens. Thank heavens there are good people that are willing 
to stand up for what is right.


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[nysbirds-l] RT HUMMINGBIRD (male)

[Rick & Linda]

The arrival of our nesting RT Hummingbirds has begun here in Peconic NY .

I thought I spied him skulking about the area yesterday so I put out one 
Hummingbird feeder yesterday morning. He survived the 40 f. temperature last 
night most likely by going into torpor. Maybe he got in a visit to partake of 
the feeder yesterday. I believe he is one of our breeders as yesterday he was 
chasing a T Titmouse from tree to tree as if he were claiming territory

Officially here at 2:30 PM in the sunlight with a blazing red throat. Hoping 
for a photo later.

I think I will play #9, "Ode to Joy”
rk
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[nysbirds-l] RT HUMMINGBIRD (male)

[Rick Linda]

The arrival of our nesting RT Hummingbirds has begun here in Peconic NY .

I thought I spied him skulking about the area yesterday so I put out one 
Hummingbird feeder yesterday morning. He survived the 40 f. temperature last 
night most likely by going into torpor. Maybe he got in a visit to partake of 
the feeder yesterday. I believe he is one of our breeders as yesterday he was 
chasing a T Titmouse from tree to tree as if he were claiming territory

Officially here at 2:30 PM in the sunlight with a blazing red throat. Hoping 
for a photo later.

I think I will play #9, Ode to Joy”
rk
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owl problem

[Rick & Linda Kedenburg]

Dear Mr. Lazaro,
What you describe has been an ongoing problem for as long as I can  
remember.


The blatant type of harassment you describe is against the law as  
useless expenditure of energy threatens the owls very lives.


If you see this again call for a DEC Wildlife Enforcement Officer.  
People should carry thees #'s with their cell phones.


Region 1 (Long Island) Law enforcement # is 631-444-0250

On weekends statewide call the 24/7 Dispatch # 877-457-5680

Although the officer may not get there in time just telling the folks  
involved in the harassment that a DEC cop is on the way could solve  
the problem.


Thank you for posting this.
Rick K. NYS-DEC WRL

On Dec 21, 2014, at 9:50 PM, John Lazaro wrote:



Today my girlfriend and I had the pleasure of seeing a beautiful  
snowy owl at Jones Beach next to the jetty. As we approached the  
jetty we saw the bird fly in and settle close to a pair of  
photographers.


As we watched the photographers approach the bird, they caused it  
to fly further down the beach. I thought it was unfortunate that  
the bird was disturbed like that and was incredulous as I watched  
the photographers walk down the beach to where the bird had landed  
and flushed it again.


Upon speaking with some other birders at the jetty we discovered  
that these same photographers had been there for two hours chasing  
this poor bird up and down the beach.


I have seen this behavior before in Maine. The attitude that these  
birds exist only for us to take photos of them. The light wasn't  
great today and one of the photographers was using a flash to try  
and light the birds beautiful eyes.


I'm appealing to all of my fellow birders to help discourage this  
kind of behavior. These birds have value as individuals and deserve  
a rest after their long journey. They are exhausted and just need  
some nice prey and a safe place to rest.


I'm hoping that the photographers I saw today are reading this post  
and will refrain from treating other wild animals in this manner.


Happy birding and Happy Holidays to you all.
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[nysbirds-l] E Bluebirds - Alley Pond Park, Queens

[Rick & Linda Kedenburg]

11-30-14 , 12 noon.
Good views of three E Bluebirds behind the green metal storage sheds  
that hold the equipment for the Challenge course.

(2 mature males & one Juv.)

To the east of the handball courts & north of the soccer field there  
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Also seen 2 Catbirds and 1 Golden-crowned Kinglet, Sharp-shined & Red- 
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[nysbirds-l] E Bluebirds - Alley Pond Park, Queens

[Rick Linda Kedenburg]

11-30-14 , 12 noon.
Good views of three E Bluebirds behind the green metal storage sheds  
that hold the equipment for the Challenge course.

(2 mature males  one Juv.)

To the east of the handball courts  north of the soccer field there  
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Also seen 2 Catbirds and 1 Golden-crowned Kinglet, Sharp-shined  Red- 
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[nysbirds-l] APP., Queens

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Oct 5, 2014, 9AM - 12PM. Alley Pond Park - Sunny, breezy, 51 degrees F.
After yesterday's rain a cold front with north winds brought many  
migrant birds to Alley Pond Park, Queens.

Large numbers of N Flicker seen in many locations. Particularly 14 on  
the ball field next to the handball courts.

RC Kinglet, Blue-headed Vireo, Red-eyed Vireo, N Parula, Black- 
throated Blue Warbler (pair), Yellow-rumped(many), Tennessee, Black- 
pole, Chestnut-sided, Palm (many), Common Yellowthroat, Redstart.  
Most of the warblers were seen between Little Alley Pond and the Park  
House. Also the kettle hole dips birds on Hercules Club.

Song Sparrow
White-throated Sparrow


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[nysbirds-l] APP., Queens

[Rick Linda Kedenburg]

Oct 5, 2014, 9AM - 12PM. Alley Pond Park - Sunny, breezy, 51 degrees F.
After yesterday's rain a cold front with north winds brought many  
migrant birds to Alley Pond Park, Queens.

Large numbers of N Flicker seen in many locations. Particularly 14 on  
the ball field next to the handball courts.

RC Kinglet, Blue-headed Vireo, Red-eyed Vireo, N Parula, Black- 
throated Blue Warbler (pair), Yellow-rumped(many), Tennessee, Black- 
pole, Chestnut-sided, Palm (many), Common Yellowthroat, Redstart.  
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Song Sparrow
White-throated Sparrow


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Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release

[Rick & Linda Kedenburg]

I think we are all on the same side here both upstate & down.

Linda & I do a lot of spring birding in the Frost Valley section of  
the catskills. There is quite a bit of land in the area that is owned  
by the NYC for watershed & drinking water reasons. We have birded  
many areas there that are sportsman clubs along the Willowemoc and  
some of that land is part of the NYC Watershed.
I would think a State Senator from NYC would get some attention.
We stay with many good friends from this area, Claryville & Denning,  
and we would say most are against this type of killing.

Rick

On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Stella Miller wrote:

> I apologize if you felt lumped into the group, and took offense,  
> but this was not in anyway disparaging everyone that lives  
> upstate.  What I was doing was agreeing with Will's assessment of  
> the situation.  The folks participating in this event do happen to  
> live "upstate".  They will likely not appreciate interference from  
> folks that live "downstate" such as the Senator.  Hence, my  
> comment.  I was certainly not implying that everyone that lives  
> north of Westchester is some kind of slack jawed yokel and I am  
> sorry you took it that way, but I was referring to the people that  
> are behind events such as these.  Please do not turn this into some  
> kind of culture war between downstaters and upstaters!  This is  
> about everyone coming together to put an end to something that we  
> all find offensive, the killing of animals for fun and prizes.
>
> Stella
>
>
>
>
>
> "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold,  
> as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up  
> to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not  
> between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an  
> impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy
> From: Colleen / spider99 
> To: Stella Miller 
> Cc: NYSBIRDS-L 
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release
>
> Please don't lump all of us who live "upstate" together.  There are  
> a number of us here in the Southern Tier and Finger Lakes regions  
> that are appalled with crow hunts. It is killing for the sake of  
> killing, not to put food on the table.  Even though crows may steal  
> and eat the young of other beloved birds, crows have their own  
> predators to hopefully balance that out.  I don't believe we need  
> to be the ones to hunt them. I love crows!
>
> So, please don't offend those who are trying to help.
> Colleen
> - Original Message -
> From: Stella Miller
> To: Will Raup ; Linda Orkin
> Cc: NYSBIRDS-L
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release
>
> Hi,
>
> I had to run out today right after the press release was sent to  
> me.  I did not get a chance to read it until now and see the  
> error.  Will is absolutely correct, folks upstate will not blink an  
> eye at this.  Why should they? As Will points out, it is legal by  
> state DEC laws and that is what matters to them.  It is the two  
> different worlds of "downstate" and "upstate"! I will reach out to  
> FoA, as they have the direct line to the Senator's office, and ask  
> if he can amend the release.
>
> Thanks for bringing this to attention!
>
> Stella
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold,  
> as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up  
> to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not  
> between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an  
> impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy
> From: Will Raup 
> To: Linda Orkin 
> Cc: Stella Miller ; NYSBIRDS-L  l...@cornell.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:57 PM
> Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release
>
> Because the people who live where this hunt is taking place, will  
> ignore it.  They don't care what a Senator from Queens or New York  
> City DEC has to say about any of it. It's legal by New York STATE  
> DEC laws.
>
> It's about perception.  If the Senator had stated they  consulted  
> New York State DEC in the release would carry more wait.  Trust me,  
> having grown up in that area and know many who still live there,  
> this statement is junk and will be laughed off because of that one  
> line.   And I'm being serious.
>
> Will Raup
> Albany, NY
>
> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:37:03 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release
> From: wingmagi...@gmail.com
> To: hoaryredp...@hotmail.com
> CC: stella.mille...@yahoo.com; nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
>
> The senator did not use NYC DEC, the press release did, and only to  
> say that the NYC DEC says this is legal.  Why would anyone stop  
> reading after that?  The senator refers only to NYS.
>
> Linda
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Will Raup  
>  wrote:
> Sadly the fact the Senator used the term "New York City DEC", means  
> it will be ignored.  It should be edited immediately to say New  

Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release

[Rick & Linda Kedenburg]

Thank you Stella.
If we as a birding community want to see this through I urge members  
of this list-serve to attach the press release to an email and send  
it along with your thoughts to your own state legislators. I just did.
Thank you for you consideration.
Respectfully yours, Rick

On Mar 20, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Stella Miller wrote:

> Attached is the press release regarding the legislation.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stella
>
>
>
>
> "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold,  
> as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up  
> to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not  
> between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an  
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release

[Rick Linda Kedenburg]

Thank you Stella.
If we as a birding community want to see this through I urge members  
of this list-serve to attach the press release to an email and send  
it along with your thoughts to your own state legislators. I just did.
Thank you for you consideration.
Respectfully yours, Rick

On Mar 20, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Stella Miller wrote:

 Attached is the press release regarding the legislation.

 Thanks,

 Stella




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Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release

[Rick Linda Kedenburg]

I think we are all on the same side here both upstate  down.

Linda  I do a lot of spring birding in the Frost Valley section of  
the catskills. There is quite a bit of land in the area that is owned  
by the NYC for watershed  drinking water reasons. We have birded  
many areas there that are sportsman clubs along the Willowemoc and  
some of that land is part of the NYC Watershed.
I would think a State Senator from NYC would get some attention.
We stay with many good friends from this area, Claryville  Denning,  
and we would say most are against this type of killing.

Rick

On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Stella Miller wrote:

 I apologize if you felt lumped into the group, and took offense,  
 but this was not in anyway disparaging everyone that lives  
 upstate.  What I was doing was agreeing with Will's assessment of  
 the situation.  The folks participating in this event do happen to  
 live upstate.  They will likely not appreciate interference from  
 folks that live downstate such as the Senator.  Hence, my  
 comment.  I was certainly not implying that everyone that lives  
 north of Westchester is some kind of slack jawed yokel and I am  
 sorry you took it that way, but I was referring to the people that  
 are behind events such as these.  Please do not turn this into some  
 kind of culture war between downstaters and upstaters!  This is  
 about everyone coming together to put an end to something that we  
 all find offensive, the killing of animals for fun and prizes.

 Stella





 Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold,  
 as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up  
 to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not  
 between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an  
 impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy
 From: Colleen / spider99 spide...@stny.rr.com
 To: Stella Miller stella.mille...@yahoo.com
 Cc: NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release

 Please don't lump all of us who live upstate together.  There are  
 a number of us here in the Southern Tier and Finger Lakes regions  
 that are appalled with crow hunts. It is killing for the sake of  
 killing, not to put food on the table.  Even though crows may steal  
 and eat the young of other beloved birds, crows have their own  
 predators to hopefully balance that out.  I don't believe we need  
 to be the ones to hunt them. I love crows!

 So, please don't offend those who are trying to help.
 Colleen
 - Original Message -
 From: Stella Miller
 To: Will Raup ; Linda Orkin
 Cc: NYSBIRDS-L
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release

 Hi,

 I had to run out today right after the press release was sent to  
 me.  I did not get a chance to read it until now and see the  
 error.  Will is absolutely correct, folks upstate will not blink an  
 eye at this.  Why should they? As Will points out, it is legal by  
 state DEC laws and that is what matters to them.  It is the two  
 different worlds of downstate and upstate! I will reach out to  
 FoA, as they have the direct line to the Senator's office, and ask  
 if he can amend the release.

 Thanks for bringing this to attention!

 Stella






 Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold,  
 as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up  
 to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not  
 between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an  
 impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy
 From: Will Raup hoaryredp...@hotmail.com
 To: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com
 Cc: Stella Miller stella.mille...@yahoo.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds- 
 l...@cornell.edu
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:57 PM
 Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release

 Because the people who live where this hunt is taking place, will  
 ignore it.  They don't care what a Senator from Queens or New York  
 City DEC has to say about any of it. It's legal by New York STATE  
 DEC laws.

 It's about perception.  If the Senator had stated they  consulted  
 New York State DEC in the release would carry more wait.  Trust me,  
 having grown up in that area and know many who still live there,  
 this statement is junk and will be laughed off because of that one  
 line.   And I'm being serious.

 Will Raup
 Albany, NY

 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:37:03 -0400
 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release
 From: wingmagi...@gmail.com
 To: hoaryredp...@hotmail.com
 CC: stella.mille...@yahoo.com; nysbirds-l@cornell.edu

 The senator did not use NYC DEC, the press release did, and only to  
 say that the NYC DEC says this is legal.  Why would anyone stop  
 reading after that?  The senator refers only to NYS.

 Linda


 On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Will Raup  
 hoaryredp...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Sadly the fact the Senator used the term New York City DEC, means  
 it will be ignored.  It 

Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County

[Rick & Linda Kedenburg]

Dear Larry and others,
I wrote to the club yesterday and received the following answer. (See  
Below) Judging from the way it's worded I don't think they care what  
any of us think. It's preposterous that they are "gathering" the  
crows to eat.

Approaching our government representatives is a good way to go but  
perhaps some press coverage of this event my make them think twice. I  
don't know any journalists in that area that would take up the story.  
Anyone else have any contacts along these lines.

Best Rick

From: r...@hvc.rr.com
Subject:Re: Crow Shoot
Date:   March 17, 2014 10:56:54 PM EDT
To:   rickkedenb...@optonline.net
Rick,
   Thank you for your input. Your opinion of our event is expected.  
We applaud your respect for nature and the crow. The crow is  
meaningful. We believe in utilizing the animal for all its worth. It  
sounds as if you do not realize that crow can and has been consumed  
for centuries. I'm sure as anecdotal evidence you would recall "4 and  
20 blackbirds baked in a pie".
You may gather and eat different things, however that does not  
negatively define us as sportsmen.
RVW Gun Club
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:40 PM, Rick Kedenburg  
 wrote:

Dear RVW Club.
As a youth I was a duck and deer hunter on eastern LI.  I know you  
have every right to conduct this shoot. It is perfectly legal for  
this to happen under the rules of the NYS-DEC.

However I am still outraged by this. Crows are one of the most  
intelligent creatures we share the Earth with. They have been  
documented to fashion and use tools. They are highly social and live  
in family groups. My fascination with them led me to love and  
appreciate nature long ago.

I hope you can understand that this will not be good for the  
reputation of your club or for any responsible hunters.

Rick Kedenburg
rickkedenb...@optonline.net

On Mar 18, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Larry Federman wrote:

> Yes, this is a State issue.  Our State Senator is Cecilia Tkaczyk  
> and our Assembly member is Pete Lopez.  Our US congressman is Chris  
> Gibson.  I will be reaching out to all of their offices.
>
> But, as we all know, ‘legally’ the club has a right to do this.
>
> And  their Facebook page is still up - https://www.facebook.com/ 
> events/258725434301388/
>
> Larry Federman
> President, Northern Catskills Audubon
>


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Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County

[Rick & Linda Kedenburg]

Dear Larry and others,
I wrote to the club yesterday and received the following answer. (See  
Below) Judging from the way it's worded I don't think they care what  
any of us think. It's preposterous that they are "gathering" the  
crows to eat.

Approaching our government representatives is a good way to go but  
perhaps some press coverage of this event my make them think twice. I  
don't know any journalists in that area that would take up the story.  
Anyone else have any contacts along these lines.

Best Rick

From: r...@hvc.rr.com
Subject:Re: Crow Shoot
Date:   March 17, 2014 10:56:54 PM EDT
To:   rickkedenb...@optonline.net
Rick,
   Thank you for your input. Your opinion of our event is expected.  
We applaud your respect for nature and the crow. The crow is  
meaningful. We believe in utilizing the animal for all its worth. It  
sounds as if you do not realize that crow can and has been consumed  
for centuries. I'm sure as anecdotal evidence you would recall "4 and  
20 blackbirds baked in a pie".
You may gather and eat different things, however that does not  
negatively define us as sportsmen.
RVW Gun Club
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:40 PM, Rick Kedenburg  
 wrote:

Dear RVW Club.
As a youth I was a duck and deer hunter on eastern LI.  I know you  
have every right to conduct this shoot. It is perfectly legal for  
this to happen under the rules of the NYS-DEC.

However I am still outraged by this. Crows are one of the most  
intelligent creatures we share the Earth with. They have been  
documented to fashion and use tools. They are highly social and live  
in family groups. My fascination with them led me to love and  
appreciate nature long ago.

I hope you can understand that this will not be good for the  
reputation of your club or for any responsible hunters.

Rick Kedenburg
rickkedenb...@optonline.net

On Mar 18, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Larry Federman wrote:

> Yes, this is a State issue.  Our State Senator is Cecilia Tkaczyk  
> and our Assembly member is Pete Lopez.  Our US congressman is Chris  
> Gibson.  I will be reaching out to all of their offices.
>
> But, as we all know, ‘legally’ the club has a right to do this.
>
> And  their Facebook page is still up - https://www.facebook.com/ 
> events/258725434301388/
>
> Larry Federman
> President, Northern Catskills Audubon
>


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Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County

[Rick Linda Kedenburg]

Dear Larry and others,
I wrote to the club yesterday and received the following answer. (See  
Below) Judging from the way it's worded I don't think they care what  
any of us think. It's preposterous that they are gathering the  
crows to eat.

Approaching our government representatives is a good way to go but  
perhaps some press coverage of this event my make them think twice. I  
don't know any journalists in that area that would take up the story.  
Anyone else have any contacts along these lines.

Best Rick

From: r...@hvc.rr.com
Subject:Re: Crow Shoot
Date:   March 17, 2014 10:56:54 PM EDT
To:   rickkedenb...@optonline.net
Rick,
   Thank you for your input. Your opinion of our event is expected.  
We applaud your respect for nature and the crow. The crow is  
meaningful. We believe in utilizing the animal for all its worth. It  
sounds as if you do not realize that crow can and has been consumed  
for centuries. I'm sure as anecdotal evidence you would recall 4 and  
20 blackbirds baked in a pie.
You may gather and eat different things, however that does not  
negatively define us as sportsmen.
RVW Gun Club
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:40 PM, Rick Kedenburg  
rickkedenb...@optonline.net wrote:

Dear RVW Club.
As a youth I was a duck and deer hunter on eastern LI.  I know you  
have every right to conduct this shoot. It is perfectly legal for  
this to happen under the rules of the NYS-DEC.

However I am still outraged by this. Crows are one of the most  
intelligent creatures we share the Earth with. They have been  
documented to fashion and use tools. They are highly social and live  
in family groups. My fascination with them led me to love and  
appreciate nature long ago.

I hope you can understand that this will not be good for the  
reputation of your club or for any responsible hunters.

Rick Kedenburg
rickkedenb...@optonline.net

On Mar 18, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Larry Federman wrote:

 Yes, this is a State issue.  Our State Senator is Cecilia Tkaczyk  
 and our Assembly member is Pete Lopez.  Our US congressman is Chris  
 Gibson.  I will be reaching out to all of their offices.

 But, as we all know, ‘legally’ the club has a right to do this.

 And  their Facebook page is still up - https://www.facebook.com/ 
 events/258725434301388/

 Larry Federman
 President, Northern Catskills Audubon



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Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County

[Rick Linda Kedenburg]

Dear Larry and others,
I wrote to the club yesterday and received the following answer. (See  
Below) Judging from the way it's worded I don't think they care what  
any of us think. It's preposterous that they are gathering the  
crows to eat.

Approaching our government representatives is a good way to go but  
perhaps some press coverage of this event my make them think twice. I  
don't know any journalists in that area that would take up the story.  
Anyone else have any contacts along these lines.

Best Rick

From: r...@hvc.rr.com
Subject:Re: Crow Shoot
Date:   March 17, 2014 10:56:54 PM EDT
To:   rickkedenb...@optonline.net
Rick,
   Thank you for your input. Your opinion of our event is expected.  
We applaud your respect for nature and the crow. The crow is  
meaningful. We believe in utilizing the animal for all its worth. It  
sounds as if you do not realize that crow can and has been consumed  
for centuries. I'm sure as anecdotal evidence you would recall 4 and  
20 blackbirds baked in a pie.
You may gather and eat different things, however that does not  
negatively define us as sportsmen.
RVW Gun Club
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:40 PM, Rick Kedenburg  
rickkedenb...@optonline.net wrote:

Dear RVW Club.
As a youth I was a duck and deer hunter on eastern LI.  I know you  
have every right to conduct this shoot. It is perfectly legal for  
this to happen under the rules of the NYS-DEC.

However I am still outraged by this. Crows are one of the most  
intelligent creatures we share the Earth with. They have been  
documented to fashion and use tools. They are highly social and live  
in family groups. My fascination with them led me to love and  
appreciate nature long ago.

I hope you can understand that this will not be good for the  
reputation of your club or for any responsible hunters.

Rick Kedenburg
rickkedenb...@optonline.net

On Mar 18, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Larry Federman wrote:

 Yes, this is a State issue.  Our State Senator is Cecilia Tkaczyk  
 and our Assembly member is Pete Lopez.  Our US congressman is Chris  
 Gibson.  I will be reaching out to all of their offices.

 But, as we all know, ‘legally’ the club has a right to do this.

 And  their Facebook page is still up - https://www.facebook.com/ 
 events/258725434301388/

 Larry Federman
 President, Northern Catskills Audubon



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Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County

[Rick & Linda Kedenburg]

I am outraged by this. Crows are one of the most intelligent  
creatures we share the Earth with. They have been documented to  
fashion and use tools. They are highly social and live in family  
groups. My fascination with them led me into birding long ago.

Thank you to those in this group for letting us know how best to  
address this issue.
Stella, let us know Audubon New York's position on this and if they  
will advocate to stop this.

Rick & Linda

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can  
change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.

Margaret Mead





On Mar 17, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Stella Miller wrote:

> By the way, the Club took down the Crow Down announcements on their  
> FB page.  A few of us had already made comments.
>
> Attached is the announcement for those of you that have not seen it.
>
> Stella
>
>
>
>
> "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold,  
> as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up  
> to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not  
> between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an  
> impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy
> From: Richard 
> To: Jonathan Perez 
> Cc: Lynne Hertzog ; Cesar Castillo  
> ; NYSBIRDS-L ; Jim  
> Osterlund 
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 7:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County
>
> The congressman is actually Peter Lopez. But I think this is a rule  
> generated or regulated at the state level.
>
> Sent from my wireless tin can
>
> On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:56, Jonathan Perez  
>  wrote:
>
>> I am no longer in the metro area, but still a member of the list.   
>> As I am in DC, I usually think of who is the representative.
>> Paul Tonko, a Congressional Democrat in the House represents  
>> Palenville.
>>
>> Here is his contact from a general Google search. http:// 
>> tonko.house.gov/contact-me/
>>
>> Hope that helps! This is inhumane, indeed.
>>
>> -Jonathan
>>
>> Jonathan A. Perez
>>
>> J.D. Candidate
>> American University Washington College of Law, 2015
>> M.A., University of Virginia, 2008
>> B.A., Bowdoin College 2005
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Lynne Hertzog  
>>  wrote:
>> Here is the page from the DEC on crow shooting.
>> Doesn't seem right, shooting crows, at any time of year.
>> http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/65847.html
>> Lynne Hertzog
>> On Mar 16, 2014 11:22 PM, "Cesar Castillo"   
>> wrote:
>> Is this just for sport, or is there a valid reason for this?
>> This reminds me of
>> The Birds of Killingworth by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:46 PM, Jim Osterlund  
>>  wrote:
>> There aren't usually organized shoots, but you can "hunt" Corvids  
>> in Suffolk County 4 days a week for half the year — September  
>> through March.  They make no distinction of species, so I suppose  
>> our feeble return of Corvus corax  only adds targets.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County

[Rick Linda Kedenburg]

I am outraged by this. Crows are one of the most intelligent  
creatures we share the Earth with. They have been documented to  
fashion and use tools. They are highly social and live in family  
groups. My fascination with them led me into birding long ago.

Thank you to those in this group for letting us know how best to  
address this issue.
Stella, let us know Audubon New York's position on this and if they  
will advocate to stop this.

Rick  Linda

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can  
change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.

Margaret Mead





On Mar 17, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Stella Miller wrote:

 By the way, the Club took down the Crow Down announcements on their  
 FB page.  A few of us had already made comments.

 Attached is the announcement for those of you that have not seen it.

 Stella




 Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold,  
 as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up  
 to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not  
 between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an  
 impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy
 From: Richard richardpguth...@gmail.com
 To: Jonathan Perez jonathan.ape...@gmail.com
 Cc: Lynne Hertzog lynnehert...@gmail.com; Cesar Castillo  
 czar3...@yahoo.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu; Jim  
 Osterlund james...@optonline.net
 Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 7:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene County

 The congressman is actually Peter Lopez. But I think this is a rule  
 generated or regulated at the state level.

 Sent from my wireless tin can

 On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:56, Jonathan Perez  
 jonathan.ape...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am no longer in the metro area, but still a member of the list.   
 As I am in DC, I usually think of who is the representative.
 Paul Tonko, a Congressional Democrat in the House represents  
 Palenville.

 Here is his contact from a general Google search. http:// 
 tonko.house.gov/contact-me/

 Hope that helps! This is inhumane, indeed.

 -Jonathan

 Jonathan A. Perez

 J.D. Candidate
 American University Washington College of Law, 2015
 M.A., University of Virginia, 2008
 B.A., Bowdoin College 2005



 On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Lynne Hertzog  
 lynnehert...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here is the page from the DEC on crow shooting.
 Doesn't seem right, shooting crows, at any time of year.
 http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/65847.html
 Lynne Hertzog
 On Mar 16, 2014 11:22 PM, Cesar Castillo czar3...@yahoo.com  
 wrote:
 Is this just for sport, or is there a valid reason for this?
 This reminds me of
 The Birds of Killingworth by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow



 On Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:46 PM, Jim Osterlund  
 james...@optonline.net wrote:
 There aren't usually organized shoots, but you can hunt Corvids  
 in Suffolk County 4 days a week for half the year — September  
 through March.  They make no distinction of species, so I suppose  
 our feeble return of Corvus corax  only adds targets.
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[nysbirds-l] ORIENT CBC & Roy Latham

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 Hi NYS Birders,  Hope I am not boring you all with this.Here are the highlights of the Orient Count as presented to NF Birds by Mary Laura Lamont, Compiler of the count.I have also included a PDF & Word doc describing the life history of one of NY State's greatest naturalists, our own Roy Latham of Orient. Born 1881. He started the Orient Christmas count as a young man and it is one of the oldest in the USA. The information is from The Long Island Botanical Society Newsletter: Vol 3 No. 1 of Jan- Fed 1993 I believe some of it was written by Eric Lamont, one of Roy's biographers. LONG ISLAND BOTANICAL SOCIETYFounded: 1986; Incorporated: 1989.The Long Island Botanical Society is dedicated to thepromotion of field botany and a greater understanding ofthe plants that grow wild on Long Island, New York.Best Rick
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Here are some terrific highlights of the Orient Christmas Bird Count, held 12-28-2013 118 species total, with sectors listed where those birds were foundThe Orient Count is a great cooperative group effort by many, many people.I want to thank everyone, and that means everyone, from the great leaders of all 9 sectors, to the feeder watchers, to the bird counters and finders,to the State workers who help with driving in the State Park, to the Town of Southold who closed deer hunting on their properties for the day, to the Plum Island folks,and the people who allow us access to their private properties. A TOTAL GROUP EFFORT! Red-necked grebe (Sag Harbor, Jessup's Neck, Orient)Great egret (Jessup's Neck)Lesser scaup (Greenport, Shelter Island east) Harlequin duck (Orient)Barrow's goldeneye (Sag Harbor)Bald eagle (Southold North, Orient, Mashomack, Shelter Island West & East, Jessup's Neck) Rough-legged hawk (Southold South, Shelter island East)Kestrel (Orient, Shelter Island East)Peregrine falcon (Orient)Northern bobwhite (Shelter Island east)Killdeer (Southold South) Red knot (Orient)Woodcock (Mashomack)Iceland gull (Orient)Lesser black-backed gull (Southold South)Razorbill (Southold North, Orient) Dovekie (Sag Harbor)Black guillemott (Orient)Snowy owl (Orient, Jessup's Neck)Rufous hummingbird (Southold South) Eastern phoebe (Orient)House wren (Shelter Island east)Marsh wren (Greenport, Orient)Ruby-crowned kinglet (Shelter Island east)American pipit (Orient)Pam warbler (Mashomack) Yellow-breasted chat (Jessup's Neck)Lark sparrow (Orient)This is just a few!MaryLaura Lamont, Compiler of the Orient Christmas Bird Count

[nysbirds-l] ORIENT CBC Roy Latham

[Rick Linda Kedenburg]

 Hi NYS Birders, Hope I am not boring you all with this.Here are the highlights of the Orient Count as presented to NF Birds by Mary Laura Lamont, Compiler of the count.I have also included a PDF  Word doc describing the life history of one of NY State's greatest naturalists, our own Roy Latham of Orient. Born 1881. He started the Orient Christmas count as a young man and it is one of the oldest in the USA.The information is from The Long Island Botanical Society Newsletter: Vol 3 No. 1 of Jan- Fed 1993 I believe some of it was written by Eric Lamont, one of Roy's biographers.LONG ISLAND BOTANICAL SOCIETYFounded: 1986; Incorporated: 1989.The Long Island Botanical Society is dedicated to thepromotion of field botany and a greater understanding ofthe plants that grow wild on Long Island, New York.Best Rick
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Here are some terrific highlights of the Orient Christmas Bird Count, held 12-28-2013 118 species total, with sectors listed where those birds were foundThe Orient Count is a great cooperative group effort by many, many people.I want to thank everyone, and that means everyone, from the great leaders of all 9 sectors, to the feeder watchers, to the bird counters and finders,to the State workers who help with driving in the State Park, to the Town of Southold who closed deer hunting on their properties for the day, to the Plum Island folks,and the people who allow us access to their private properties. A TOTAL GROUP EFFORT! Red-necked grebe (Sag Harbor, Jessup's Neck, Orient)Great egret (Jessup's Neck)Lesser scaup (Greenport, Shelter Island east) Harlequin duck (Orient)Barrow's goldeneye (Sag Harbor)Bald eagle (Southold North, Orient, Mashomack, Shelter Island West  East, Jessup's Neck) Rough-legged hawk (Southold South, Shelter island East)Kestrel (Orient, Shelter Island East)Peregrine falcon (Orient)Northern bobwhite (Shelter Island east)Killdeer (Southold South) Red knot (Orient)Woodcock (Mashomack)Iceland gull (Orient)Lesser black-backed gull (Southold South)Razorbill (Southold North, Orient) Dovekie (Sag Harbor)Black guillemott (Orient)Snowy owl (Orient, Jessup's Neck)Rufous hummingbird (Southold South) Eastern phoebe (Orient)House wren (Shelter Island east)Marsh wren (Greenport, Orient)Ruby-crowned kinglet (Shelter Island east)American pipit (Orient)Pam warbler (Mashomack) Yellow-breasted chat (Jessup's Neck)Lark sparrow (Orient)This is just a few!MaryLaura Lamont, Compiler of the Orient Christmas Bird Count

[nysbirds-l] Go directly to the Inspector General of panynj to protect Snowy Owls

[Rick & Linda Kedenburg]

Hi All, I found this address on the PA website. Maybe people can get  
more done directly through the PA inspector general's office than the  
regular contact protocol on their website.
Rick

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Rick & Linda Kedenburg 
> Date: December 9, 2013 5:24:31 PM EST
> To: inspectorgene...@panynj.gov
> Subject: Wasting taxpayers money
>
> Dear Inspector General,
>
> This is a travesty and the people authorizing this at the PA are  
> misinformed. Snowy Owls are loners do not fly in flocks and when  
> they migrate it is individually at low levels. Wake up PA they are  
> no threat to aircraft!
>
> Stop wasting our money it does nothing for safety and is like  
> stealing money from the taxpayers while violating common decency.
>
Rick Kedenburg

>
>
>
Port Authority 'wildlife specialists' hunt snowy owls at New York  
City's airports

Whooodunit? Snowy owls, apparently. After one was sucked into an  
airplane turbine, the species has been added to a list of birds that  
'wildlife specialists' kill to protect planes from bird strikes.

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BY THOMAS TRACY , EDGAR SANDOVAL AND TINA MOORE / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

MONDAY, DECEMBER 9, 2013, 2:25 AM
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[nysbirds-l] Go directly to the Inspector General of panynj to protect Snowy Owls

[Rick Linda Kedenburg]

Hi All, I found this address on the PA website. Maybe people can get  
more done directly through the PA inspector general's office than the  
regular contact protocol on their website.
Rick

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 To: inspectorgene...@panynj.gov
 Subject: Wasting taxpayers money

 Dear Inspector General,

 This is a travesty and the people authorizing this at the PA are  
 misinformed. Snowy Owls are loners do not fly in flocks and when  
 they migrate it is individually at low levels. Wake up PA they are  
 no threat to aircraft!

 Stop wasting our money it does nothing for safety and is like  
 stealing money from the taxpayers while violating common decency.

Rick Kedenburg




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[nysbirds-l] Environs Orient

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11-19-13 Gettysburg Address Day. If you haven't read it in some time  
please take the time to read it again. (Rick's Soapbox)

The following observations are from a North Fork Audubon field trip  
this morning.

Causeway & Orient Yacht Club;
Red-Throated Loon

Narrow River Road;
Bufflehead, C Loon, Several Great Blue Heron, Northern Harrier (Gray  
Ghost), Red-tailed Hawk, Yellow-rumped Warbler, Chipping Sparrow,  
Savannah-Ipiwsch type, No Seaside Sparrows, Song, Swamp, White- 
throated, White-crowned Sparrows, DE Junco, House Finch.

Orient Point-Plum Gut
Common Eider, Long-tailed Duck, Yellow-rumped Warbler.

Orient State Park;
Bufflehead, C. Loon, Cormorant, Many BC Chickadees, Yellow-rumped  
Warblers, and DE Juncos in the scrubby pines near the kayak rental  
area. We noticed upon arriving and leaving the park two distinct  
flocks of Snow Buntings. ( some in fine plumage ) The first flock was  
at the 1/2 mile marker and consisted of 30 birds. The Second was in  
the area of the beach and comfort station at the main parking lot and  
was about 25 birds. On the road leaving the park ( at about the 1  
mile marker ) there were many White-throated Sparrows & DE Juncos.

BTW: No one showed up for the field trip. Linda & I decided to lead  
it anyway for ourselves. It was a glorious day out there. Windy, but  
not too cold. Watching the creatures around us we thought of the cold  
times ahead for many of then and the constant search for food and  
shelter. Somehow they carry on, sometimes the better partners in life  
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[nysbirds-l] Environs Orient

[Rick Linda Kedenburg]

11-19-13 Gettysburg Address Day. If you haven't read it in some time  
please take the time to read it again. (Rick's Soapbox)

The following observations are from a North Fork Audubon field trip  
this morning.

Causeway  Orient Yacht Club;
Red-Throated Loon

Narrow River Road;
Bufflehead, C Loon, Several Great Blue Heron, Northern Harrier (Gray  
Ghost), Red-tailed Hawk, Yellow-rumped Warbler, Chipping Sparrow,  
Savannah-Ipiwsch type, No Seaside Sparrows, Song, Swamp, White- 
throated, White-crowned Sparrows, DE Junco, House Finch.

Orient Point-Plum Gut
Common Eider, Long-tailed Duck, Yellow-rumped Warbler.

Orient State Park;
Bufflehead, C. Loon, Cormorant, Many BC Chickadees, Yellow-rumped  
Warblers, and DE Juncos in the scrubby pines near the kayak rental  
area. We noticed upon arriving and leaving the park two distinct  
flocks of Snow Buntings. ( some in fine plumage ) The first flock was  
at the 1/2 mile marker and consisted of 30 birds. The Second was in  
the area of the beach and comfort station at the main parking lot and  
was about 25 birds. On the road leaving the park ( at about the 1  
mile marker ) there were many White-throated Sparrows  DE Juncos.

BTW: No one showed up for the field trip. Linda  I decided to lead  
it anyway for ourselves. It was a glorious day out there. Windy, but  
not too cold. Watching the creatures around us we thought of the cold  
times ahead for many of then and the constant search for food and  
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Monarchs

[Rick & Linda Kedenburg]

On the North Fork of Long Island we have had abundant Seaside  
Goldenrod, but a real scarcity of Monarchs feeding and resting on  
them. Last year the Monarchs  arrived while the Goldenrod was not  
quite blooming; this year the Goldenrod is waiting but devoid of  
Monarchs.We miss them fluttering off Long Island Sound and streaming  
along the beaches . We actually had a Monarch caterpillar on a  
milkweed in our yard a couple of weeks ago, but he was gone the next  
day. At present we are in southern Vermont and Monarchs have also  
been absent here. Could the spring storms have wiped out a whole  
northbound population? Hope next year will be better.

On Oct 10, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Ann Mitchell wrote:

We also have lots of golden rod and have seen Monarchs. 3 years ago  
in Cape May, 3rd week in September, we saw thousands of them- over  
the water, binocular view, and on the golden rod or other flowers.  
We went there for bird migrants, but. Pete Dunne even mentioned  
them in a report. It was spectacular!  Hope there are still enough  
trees in Mexico for them to winter over. Maybe it is just an off  
year.??


Ann Mitchell
Sent from my IPhone

On Oct 10, 2013, at 7:40 AM, steve rosenthal   
wrote:


at jones beach and point lookout  here in NY my impression was that
there were still ample goldenrods back along the roadways and (at Pt
Lookout) along the shore of Jones Inlet All with nary a  
monarch on
them on my last few visits. I think 4 or 5 monarchs was the most I  
saw

on any single visit of an hour to two hours length. This has been
typical for observers posting  all summer long to the NABA (North
American Butterfly Assocaition) websites' "Postings"   from anywhere
in the eastern half of the US.


On 10/10/13, Peter Priolo  wrote:
Excellent question I've noticed a decline as well. I am no expert  
but have
tagged monarchs as a citizen scientist for the past 3 years on  
the south
shore of Long Island as part of the U of Kansas monarch watch  
project. Two
years ago there were enough monarchs flying east to west along  
the dunes

that praying mantis would ambush them on the seaside goldenrod.
This year I the amount and rate of monarchs flying east to west  
on the

coastal dunes decreased dramatically.
I think this is linked with the observation that there appears to  
be less
goldenrod stands; and, I think there are less goldenrod because  
of physical
change of the dunes from hurricane Sandy. Some great stands got  
buried along

beachfront that I have found monarchs at in past years.
I wonder if there are less goldenrod available along the entire  
coast in the
plants range. I wonder if this will set them back as the yellow  
blooms are

an energy source timed with their migration.
That is my speculation. I don't know if the monarch population  
actually did
decrease markedly this year, I just saw less where I used to see  
more.


Peter Priolo
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Monarchs

[Rick Linda Kedenburg]

On the North Fork of Long Island we have had abundant Seaside  
Goldenrod, but a real scarcity of Monarchs feeding and resting on  
them. Last year the Monarchs  arrived while the Goldenrod was not  
quite blooming; this year the Goldenrod is waiting but devoid of  
Monarchs.We miss them fluttering off Long Island Sound and streaming  
along the beaches . We actually had a Monarch caterpillar on a  
milkweed in our yard a couple of weeks ago, but he was gone the next  
day. At present we are in southern Vermont and Monarchs have also  
been absent here. Could the spring storms have wiped out a whole  
northbound population? Hope next year will be better.

On Oct 10, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Ann Mitchell wrote:

We also have lots of golden rod and have seen Monarchs. 3 years ago  
in Cape May, 3rd week in September, we saw thousands of them- over  
the water, binocular view, and on the golden rod or other flowers.  
We went there for bird migrants, but. Pete Dunne even mentioned  
them in a report. It was spectacular!  Hope there are still enough  
trees in Mexico for them to winter over. Maybe it is just an off  
year.??


Ann Mitchell
Sent from my IPhone

On Oct 10, 2013, at 7:40 AM, steve rosenthal smr...@gmail.com  
wrote:


at jones beach and point lookout  here in NY my impression was that
there were still ample goldenrods back along the roadways and (at Pt
Lookout) along the shore of Jones Inlet All with nary a  
monarch on
them on my last few visits. I think 4 or 5 monarchs was the most I  
saw

on any single visit of an hour to two hours length. This has been
typical for observers posting  all summer long to the NABA (North
American Butterfly Assocaition) websites' Postings   from anywhere
in the eastern half of the US.


On 10/10/13, Peter Priolo peterpri...@gmail.com wrote:
Excellent question I've noticed a decline as well. I am no expert  
but have
tagged monarchs as a citizen scientist for the past 3 years on  
the south
shore of Long Island as part of the U of Kansas monarch watch  
project. Two
years ago there were enough monarchs flying east to west along  
the dunes

that praying mantis would ambush them on the seaside goldenrod.
This year I the amount and rate of monarchs flying east to west  
on the

coastal dunes decreased dramatically.
I think this is linked with the observation that there appears to  
be less
goldenrod stands; and, I think there are less goldenrod because  
of physical
change of the dunes from hurricane Sandy. Some great stands got  
buried along

beachfront that I have found monarchs at in past years.
I wonder if there are less goldenrod available along the entire  
coast in the
plants range. I wonder if this will set them back as the yellow  
blooms are

an energy source timed with their migration.
That is my speculation. I don't know if the monarch population  
actually did
decrease markedly this year, I just saw less where I used to see  
more.


Peter Priolo
Ctr Moriches
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Re: [nysbirds-l] pipits

[Rick & Linda Kedenburg]

Rick and I were in the same location around noon and saw a remnant  
group of Pipits there. They soon took off and flew toward the  
westward tree line. There was a large flock of Horned Lark south of  
there on the east side of a Depot Lane sod field, Cutchogue. Several  
Snow Buntings were mixed in with them. They all took off and flew  
north across Oregon Road. Yesterday a friend spotted  two Lapland  
Longspurs  feeding  with this flock as well.


On Feb 18, 2013, at 2:21 PM, MICHAEL HIGGISTON wrote:


an addendum to my earlier posting;

large flock of pipits were found around 10:30 this morning on the  
west side of Duck Pond Road, north of Oregon Road, in Riverhead.


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Re: [nysbirds-l] pipits

[Rick Linda Kedenburg]

Rick and I were in the same location around noon and saw a remnant  
group of Pipits there. They soon took off and flew toward the  
westward tree line. There was a large flock of Horned Lark south of  
there on the east side of a Depot Lane sod field, Cutchogue. Several  
Snow Buntings were mixed in with them. They all took off and flew  
north across Oregon Road. Yesterday a friend spotted  two Lapland  
Longspurs  feeding  with this flock as well.


On Feb 18, 2013, at 2:21 PM, MICHAEL HIGGISTON wrote:


an addendum to my earlier posting;

large flock of pipits were found around 10:30 this morning on the  
west side of Duck Pond Road, north of Oregon Road, in Riverhead.


Mike Higgiston

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[nysbirds-l] Virginia's seen 12:30 PM

[Rick & Linda Kedenburg]

Luckily we finally got a good look - briefly - at the V-bird within  
walking distance of our apt.

APP 12:30 Pm
Just west of the Kettle toward 76th Ave, headed into the brushy area  
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[nysbirds-l] Virginia's seen 12:30 PM

[Rick Linda Kedenburg]

Luckily we finally got a good look - briefly - at the V-bird within  
walking distance of our apt.

APP 12:30 Pm
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[nysbirds-l] Merganser Bonanza

[Rick & Linda Kedenburg]

Goldsmith's Inlet inner pond 3-12-12
About 8:45 this morning at very low tide Linda & I observed RB  
Merganser behavior we cannot recall seeing before.
There was a school of fish trapped in the inlet pond and a group of  
RB Mergansers had them rounded up along the shoreline. About 15  
birds, all working as a group, had a great breakfast of small fish.  
The main hunting group of about 10 birds kept diving and attacking  
the fish. Fish were jumping all over trying to escape. Meanwhile  
about 5 Mergansers would half fly, half skid along the water and land  
with their breasts first, causing big waves around the perimeter of  
the fish school. In this way they kept the fish penned in close to  
the shore. The Mergansers would take turns being the ones on the  
perimeter while others ate in the middle.  Eventually after about 15  
minutes the fish did get out into the middle of the inlet pond and  
the Mergansers stopped their organized tactics and went back to the  
usual individual diving.

It was pretty cool while it lasted. Even Mollie, our dog was watching.

Also seen was a mixed flock of C Wren, Song Sparrow, White-throated  
Sparrow & DE Junco all foraging on the lawn of an unused summer home.
The Mockingbirds were really quite busy chasing each other around as  
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[nysbirds-l] Flicker Fun

[Rick & Linda Kedenburg]

Henry's Lane, Peconic  3-12-12
Interesting bird behavior.  In a tree in the woods of Peconic Land  
Trust Property a male and female N Flicker told us it is officially  
Spring no matter what the calendar may say.
The two Flickers on the same branch about 4 feet apart would just  
stare at each other and not move. Then at some unseen signal they  
would both bust forth in a ritualized display of  tail spreading,  
heads & necks up and bobbing along with some vocalization that  
sounded like half clucking and half a pet's squeeze toy. Reminded me  
of seeing films of the Bauer Bird display. They would do this for  
about 5 to 10 seconds and then go back to staring at each other. The  
staring would continue for about 30-60 seconds and then the display  
would begin again. Each time they would get a little closer to each  
other and after about 20 minutes they were right next to each other  
touching during the display. The female then turned around to allow  
the male to mate with her but nothing happened. This lasted another  
10 minutes after which the female fly away. After 5 minutes alone on  
the branch the male flew away. The whole episode lasted over a half  
hour. I took a short video of the display.
Since no actual mating occurred perhaps this sort of pre nuptial  
display goes on for a few days of weeks.  Does anyone have any  
knowledge of N Flicker behavior ?

Well as I like to point out: "All birders are blessed when we can see  
nature and gain an insight into the ebb and flow of life that is  
happening all around us constantly. Much of what humanity cares for,  
or is only aware of, is the self created artificial world around  
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[nysbirds-l] Flicker Fun

[Rick Linda Kedenburg]

Henry's Lane, Peconic  3-12-12
Interesting bird behavior.  In a tree in the woods of Peconic Land  
Trust Property a male and female N Flicker told us it is officially  
Spring no matter what the calendar may say.
The two Flickers on the same branch about 4 feet apart would just  
stare at each other and not move. Then at some unseen signal they  
would both bust forth in a ritualized display of  tail spreading,  
heads  necks up and bobbing along with some vocalization that  
sounded like half clucking and half a pet's squeeze toy. Reminded me  
of seeing films of the Bauer Bird display. They would do this for  
about 5 to 10 seconds and then go back to staring at each other. The  
staring would continue for about 30-60 seconds and then the display  
would begin again. Each time they would get a little closer to each  
other and after about 20 minutes they were right next to each other  
touching during the display. The female then turned around to allow  
the male to mate with her but nothing happened. This lasted another  
10 minutes after which the female fly away. After 5 minutes alone on  
the branch the male flew away. The whole episode lasted over a half  
hour. I took a short video of the display.
Since no actual mating occurred perhaps this sort of pre nuptial  
display goes on for a few days of weeks.  Does anyone have any  
knowledge of N Flicker behavior ?

Well as I like to point out: All birders are blessed when we can see  
nature and gain an insight into the ebb and flow of life that is  
happening all around us constantly. Much of what humanity cares for,  
or is only aware of, is the self created artificial world around  
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[nysbirds-l] Merganser Bonanza

[Rick Linda Kedenburg]

Goldsmith's Inlet inner pond 3-12-12
About 8:45 this morning at very low tide Linda  I observed RB  
Merganser behavior we cannot recall seeing before.
There was a school of fish trapped in the inlet pond and a group of  
RB Mergansers had them rounded up along the shoreline. About 15  
birds, all working as a group, had a great breakfast of small fish.  
The main hunting group of about 10 birds kept diving and attacking  
the fish. Fish were jumping all over trying to escape. Meanwhile  
about 5 Mergansers would half fly, half skid along the water and land  
with their breasts first, causing big waves around the perimeter of  
the fish school. In this way they kept the fish penned in close to  
the shore. The Mergansers would take turns being the ones on the  
perimeter while others ate in the middle.  Eventually after about 15  
minutes the fish did get out into the middle of the inlet pond and  
the Mergansers stopped their organized tactics and went back to the  
usual individual diving.

It was pretty cool while it lasted. Even Mollie, our dog was watching.

Also seen was a mixed flock of C Wren, Song Sparrow, White-throated  
Sparrow  DE Junco all foraging on the lawn of an unused summer home.
The Mockingbirds were really quite busy chasing each other around as  
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Re: [nysbirds-l] hummer at feeder

[Rick & Linda Kedenburg]

We don't find this interesting or unusual. Linda & I have feeders  
here on the North Fork of LI and get breeding RT Hummingbirds every  
year that nest nearby. We also get them at our feeders in Vermont.
If you have seen a rarity I would be interested in seeing it in my  
INBOX.
There are many breeding RT Hummingbirds throughout the State of NY  
and New England.
Thank you Andrew but let's maintain a brevity by limiting our  
reporting to facts that are interesting to us all.
Regards, Rick

On Jun 10, 2011, at 7:10 PM, Andrew Block wrote:

For the second time in three days I had a female Ruby-throated  
Hummingbird join the male Baltimore Oriole and catbirds at the  
feeders.  I was very surprised since they don't breed around where I  
live and they should've been through by now.  I guess it's just a  
late migrant north.  Pretty neat.

Andrew

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Re: [nysbirds-l] hummer at feeder

[Rick Linda Kedenburg]

We don't find this interesting or unusual. Linda  I have feeders  
here on the North Fork of LI and get breeding RT Hummingbirds every  
year that nest nearby. We also get them at our feeders in Vermont.
If you have seen a rarity I would be interested in seeing it in my  
INBOX.
There are many breeding RT Hummingbirds throughout the State of NY  
and New England.
Thank you Andrew but let's maintain a brevity by limiting our  
reporting to facts that are interesting to us all.
Regards, Rick

On Jun 10, 2011, at 7:10 PM, Andrew Block wrote:

For the second time in three days I had a female Ruby-throated  
Hummingbird join the male Baltimore Oriole and catbirds at the  
feeders.  I was very surprised since they don't breed around where I  
live and they should've been through by now.  I guess it's just a  
late migrant north.  Pretty neat.

Andrew

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37 Tanglewylde Avenue
Bronxville, Westchester Co., New York 10708-3131
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Kentucky Warbler

[Rick & Linda Kedenburg]

Hi John,
Thanks for the information. It's good to know that there are people  
like you and others who are aware and working on this problem.

ALL NYS BIRDERS should email or contact their NYS assembly and Senate  
representatives to tell them that they support these respective bills.

Best Regards to all Rick & Linda

"never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can  
change the world; it's the only thing that ever has" - Margaret Mead


On May 17, 2011, at 8:19 PM, redk...@optonline.net wrote:

Hi Rick and Linda:

The photos of the window killed Kentucky Warbler are very sad indeed.  
Given this, you would probably be interested to know that a number of  
groups (local LI Audubon chapters, Audubon NY, NYC Audubon, and  
American Bird Conservancy) are working with NY state legislators to  
develop and pass meaningful legislation to address the very  
significant issue of window/building bird mortality.  A bill has been  
introduced; the Assembly bill is A. 6342 (Assemblyman Steve  
Englebright) and the Senate bill is S. 4204 (Senator Mark Grisanti)
They are easily accessible on the Assembly or Senate websites.

Any information you might have "on workers cleaning up the buildings  
before office workers get there" would be of great interest. I've  
been told that too and it would be helpful to know more about that.  
Please send it offline...

Best,

John Turner

- Original Message -
From: Rick & Linda Kedenburg 
Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:48 am
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Kentucky Warbler
To: NYS BIRDS 

> Cutchogue April 27th.  Some of us North Fork birders got to see a
> Kentucky in hand. Sadly it had crashed into the Fish Store window
> during the night. The Kentucky is truly a beautiful bird.
> Yes it was a sad thing to see but not more so than what happens
> each
> morning at such places as the glass towers of Uniondale LI.  This
> time of year they have workers at dawn cleaning up the bodies of
> dead
> birds before the office workers show up.
> It's too cringing to say that birders should go there to look for
> rarities, however, for scientific reasons maybe the birding
> community
> should be keeping records of these type of events and actual
> species
> numbers at selected sites for extrapolation.
> Rick "The process of fine adjustment and of endless experimentation
>
> over long periods of time is called evolution, the result of
> changes
> too sudden for nature to provide for is called extinction."  Roger
> Caras
> Subject: kentucky wabler
>
> April 27, 2011; found dead this am , must have hit a window on
> north
> side of  seafood
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Kentucky Warbler

[Rick Linda Kedenburg]

Hi John,
Thanks for the information. It's good to know that there are people  
like you and others who are aware and working on this problem.

ALL NYS BIRDERS should email or contact their NYS assembly and Senate  
representatives to tell them that they support these respective bills.

Best Regards to all Rick  Linda

never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can  
change the world; it's the only thing that ever has - Margaret Mead


On May 17, 2011, at 8:19 PM, redk...@optonline.net wrote:

Hi Rick and Linda:

The photos of the window killed Kentucky Warbler are very sad indeed.  
Given this, you would probably be interested to know that a number of  
groups (local LI Audubon chapters, Audubon NY, NYC Audubon, and  
American Bird Conservancy) are working with NY state legislators to  
develop and pass meaningful legislation to address the very  
significant issue of window/building bird mortality.  A bill has been  
introduced; the Assembly bill is A. 6342 (Assemblyman Steve  
Englebright) and the Senate bill is S. 4204 (Senator Mark Grisanti)
They are easily accessible on the Assembly or Senate websites.

Any information you might have on workers cleaning up the buildings  
before office workers get there would be of great interest. I've  
been told that too and it would be helpful to know more about that.  
Please send it offline...

Best,

John Turner

- Original Message -
From: Rick  Linda Kedenburg kedenb...@optonline.net
Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:48 am
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Kentucky Warbler
To: NYS BIRDS NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu

 Cutchogue April 27th.  Some of us North Fork birders got to see a
 Kentucky in hand. Sadly it had crashed into the Fish Store window
 during the night. The Kentucky is truly a beautiful bird.
 Yes it was a sad thing to see but not more so than what happens
 each
 morning at such places as the glass towers of Uniondale LI.  This
 time of year they have workers at dawn cleaning up the bodies of
 dead
 birds before the office workers show up.
 It's too cringing to say that birders should go there to look for
 rarities, however, for scientific reasons maybe the birding
 community
 should be keeping records of these type of events and actual
 species
 numbers at selected sites for extrapolation.
 Rick The process of fine adjustment and of endless experimentation

 over long periods of time is called evolution, the result of
 changes
 too sudden for nature to provide for is called extinction.  Roger
 Caras
 Subject: kentucky wabler

 April 27, 2011; found dead this am , must have hit a window on
 north
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Re: [nysbirds-l] It's urgent, please respond

[Rick & Linda Kedenburg]

I have already forwarded it to: Phishing Us Gov   www.phishing- 
rep...@us-cert.gov

For future reference this is a US Government website that specializes  
in international e scamming.

Rick K.

On Feb 18, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Ardith Bondi wrote:

This is totally a scam - just delete it!

Ardith Bondi

On 2/18/11 2:40 PM, richjack...@aol.com wrote:
> This probably is a scam. It happened to a friend of mine last year but
> luckily no one fell for it.
> The best thing to do is try phoning John to see if he is at home.
>
> Richard ZainEldeen
> Brooklyn, NY
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Gavrity
> To: NYSBIRDS-L
> Sent: Fri, Feb 18, 2011 1:44 pm
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] It's urgent, please respond
>
> It�s me,  I really don't mean to inconvenience you right now, I  
> made a
> little trip to Netherlands and I misplaced my luggage that contains my
> passport and credit cards, I know this may sound odd, but it all
> happened very fast. I need to get a new passport and a ticket, but I'm
> short of funds to pay for my ticket, and other miscellaneous expense.
> Please, can you lend me some funds to get a ticket? I'll be willing to
> pay back as soon as I get home.
>
> Please respond as soon as you get this message, so I can forward  
> you my
> details to send the funds to me, OR you can drop a message via the
> hotel's desk phone if you can. The numbers are, 01131 2 0622 8607.
>
> I await your response
> John Gavrity
>
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> 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
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> 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html
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Re: [nysbirds-l] It's urgent, please respond

[Rick Linda Kedenburg]

I have already forwarded it to: Phishing Us Gov   www.phishing- 
rep...@us-cert.gov

For future reference this is a US Government website that specializes  
in international e scamming.

Rick K.

On Feb 18, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Ardith Bondi wrote:

This is totally a scam - just delete it!

Ardith Bondi

On 2/18/11 2:40 PM, richjack...@aol.com wrote:
 This probably is a scam. It happened to a friend of mine last year but
 luckily no one fell for it.
 The best thing to do is try phoning John to see if he is at home.

 Richard ZainEldeen
 Brooklyn, NY

 -Original Message-
 From: John Gavrityjgav...@gmail.com
 To: NYSBIRDS-LNYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu
 Sent: Fri, Feb 18, 2011 1:44 pm
 Subject: [nysbirds-l] It's urgent, please respond

 It�s me,  I really don't mean to inconvenience you right now, I  
 made a
 little trip to Netherlands and I misplaced my luggage that contains my
 passport and credit cards, I know this may sound odd, but it all
 happened very fast. I need to get a new passport and a ticket, but I'm
 short of funds to pay for my ticket, and other miscellaneous expense.
 Please, can you lend me some funds to get a ticket? I'll be willing to
 pay back as soon as I get home.

 Please respond as soon as you get this message, so I can forward  
 you my
 details to send the funds to me, OR you can drop a message via the
 hotel's desk phone if you can. The numbers are, 01131 2 0622 8607.

 I await your response
 John Gavrity




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[nysbirds-l] OSPREY - Cutchogue NY

[Rick & Linda Kedenburg]

02-12-11 10:45 AM
OSPREY ON PLATFORM JUST EAST OF MOUTH OF DOWNS CREEK
Cutchogue Long Island

The bird was seen while we were leading a group 12 people for a North  
Fork Audubon Society field trip.
Good looks through our spotting scope. This is the earliest Linda and  
I have seen
an OSPREY anywhere on LONG ISLAND !

Let's hope this mean the Groundhog is correct.
We named him Abe in honor of our 16th President born on this date.
Rick & Linda Kedenburg
Peconic NY



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[nysbirds-l] OSPREY - Cutchogue NY

[Rick Linda Kedenburg]

02-12-11 10:45 AM
OSPREY ON PLATFORM JUST EAST OF MOUTH OF DOWNS CREEK
Cutchogue Long Island

The bird was seen while we were leading a group 12 people for a North  
Fork Audubon Society field trip.
Good looks through our spotting scope. This is the earliest Linda and  
I have seen
an OSPREY anywhere on LONG ISLAND !

Let's hope this mean the Groundhog is correct.
We named him Abe in honor of our 16th President born on this date.
Rick  Linda Kedenburg
Peconic NY



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