Re: [nysbirds-l] Pine Island Missionlands Road, Warwick.NY

[sophiesaid]

 Hi Bill and the NY Listserv~

My reply to your post was to ask you to avoid confrontation. This man seems to 
be an anomaly, most of the Black Dirt farmers are super nice,
and in my humble opinion, super patient with the influx of birders and 
photographers during the different bird migrating seasons.
This man seems agitated, and I am thinking that maybe birder kindness will only 
help the situation.  It is a public road, but 
it seems that this man wants to blow off steam.   All the local birders are 
respectful, and try to avoid confrontation with any land owners (keep in mind 
that the street may be public, but
the land is not).   Very rarely, birders or photographers may block roads (or 
their trucks), make sudden stops, drive on the wrong side of the road, etc. 
Let's show all the farmers the patience that most show us. :)

Linda Scrima


 

 

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From: Bill Elrick 
To: NYSBIRDS-L 
Sent: Sun, Aug 20, 2017 2:01 pm
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Pine Island Missionlands Road, Warwick.NY



I called Warwick police station and was told it is a county road and he has no 
right to tell anyone it is private. I suggest video him and ask his name.
He has no right to be scaring people off the road.
I heard from someone else who was also told to leave, so he is doing it to a 
number of bird watchers.
Bill



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Re: [nysbirds-l] Pine Island Missionlands Road, Warwick.NY

[sophiesaid]

 Hi Bill and the NY Listserv~

My reply to your post was to ask you to avoid confrontation. This man seems to 
be an anomaly, most of the Black Dirt farmers are super nice,
and in my humble opinion, super patient with the influx of birders and 
photographers during the different bird migrating seasons.
This man seems agitated, and I am thinking that maybe birder kindness will only 
help the situation.  It is a public road, but 
it seems that this man wants to blow off steam.   All the local birders are 
respectful, and try to avoid confrontation with any land owners (keep in mind 
that the street may be public, but
the land is not).   Very rarely, birders or photographers may block roads (or 
their trucks), make sudden stops, drive on the wrong side of the road, etc. 
Let's show all the farmers the patience that most show us. :)

Linda Scrima


 

 

-Original Message-
From: Bill Elrick 
To: NYSBIRDS-L 
Sent: Sun, Aug 20, 2017 2:01 pm
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Pine Island Missionlands Road, Warwick.NY



I called Warwick police station and was told it is a county road and he has no 
right to tell anyone it is private. I suggest video him and ask his name.
He has no right to be scaring people off the road.
I heard from someone else who was also told to leave, so he is doing it to a 
number of bird watchers.
Bill



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RE: [nysbirds-l] Pine Island Missionlands Road, Warwick.NY

[Curt McDermott]

And please everyone...Be as respectful to the locals as possible.  Typically, 
we enjoy a good relationship with them.

Curt McDermott



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 Original message 
From: Bill Elrick 
Date: 8/20/17 2:01 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: NYSBIRDS-L 
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Pine Island Missionlands Road, Warwick.NY

I called Warwick police station and was told it is a county road and he has no 
right to tell anyone it is private. I suggest video him and ask his name.
He has no right to be scaring people off the road.
I heard from someone else who was also told to leave, so he is doing it to a 
number of bird watchers.
Bill

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Pine Island Missionlands Road, Warwick.NY

[Curt McDermott]

And please everyone...Be as respectful to the locals as possible.  Typically, 
we enjoy a good relationship with them.

Curt McDermott



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 Original message 
From: Bill Elrick 
Date: 8/20/17 2:01 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: NYSBIRDS-L 
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Pine Island Missionlands Road, Warwick.NY

I called Warwick police station and was told it is a county road and he has no 
right to tell anyone it is private. I suggest video him and ask his name.
He has no right to be scaring people off the road.
I heard from someone else who was also told to leave, so he is doing it to a 
number of bird watchers.
Bill

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Pine Island Missionlands Road, Warwick.NY

[Curt McDermott]

Video taping people can escalate matters.  If you are on the road and not 
trespassing on private property, ignore the person without doing anything that 
may be infammatory.  If it becomes dangerous, call the Police and take note of 
the vehicle plate and description.  Pay attention to their clothing, weight, 
height, facial hair and hair color.  Then leave and meet the Police at the end 
of the road.

Curt McDermott



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 Original message 
From: Bill Elrick 
Date: 8/20/17 2:01 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: NYSBIRDS-L 
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Pine Island Missionlands Road, Warwick.NY

I called Warwick police station and was told it is a county road and he has no 
right to tell anyone it is private. I suggest video him and ask his name.
He has no right to be scaring people off the road.
I heard from someone else who was also told to leave, so he is doing it to a 
number of bird watchers.
Bill

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Pine Island Missionlands Road, Warwick.NY

[Curt McDermott]

Video taping people can escalate matters.  If you are on the road and not 
trespassing on private property, ignore the person without doing anything that 
may be infammatory.  If it becomes dangerous, call the Police and take note of 
the vehicle plate and description.  Pay attention to their clothing, weight, 
height, facial hair and hair color.  Then leave and meet the Police at the end 
of the road.

Curt McDermott



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 Original message 
From: Bill Elrick 
Date: 8/20/17 2:01 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: NYSBIRDS-L 
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Pine Island Missionlands Road, Warwick.NY

I called Warwick police station and was told it is a county road and he has no 
right to tell anyone it is private. I suggest video him and ask his name.
He has no right to be scaring people off the road.
I heard from someone else who was also told to leave, so he is doing it to a 
number of bird watchers.
Bill

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