Re: [obc] bike boxes
Also, check out http://www.bikeaccess.net/Airlines_action.cfm?Search=United%20Airlines http://www.bikesutra.com/airlines.html http://www.ibike.org/bagregs.htm tOM On Monday, November 18, 2002 at 18:41 Paul Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm flying with United from Ottawa to San Diego for a couple weeks at the beginning of December and planning on taking my bike. I either want to buy or rent a bike transport device for this trip... as long as I'm reasonable confident that my bike will be transported safely. My friend told me they have bike boxes at MEC... not sure what the best way to go is or what the other options are. Don't know what bike boxes MEC has but assume they must be hard-cased or else what's the point of renting one? Cardboard boxes are usually available free from any bike dealer (although they may not have much at this time of the year). Have you contacted United to see what they prefer? (Some carriers demand a bike be in a box). Perhaps United has boxes for bikes or will provide a plastic bag. Some people swear by the simple plastic bag for a bike because the handlers know what they have and are less likely to throw it around unlike boxes. (I have seen as much damage to bikes packed in cardboard boxes as I have from those transported in a plastic bag). ...Paul L. - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur ,__@ tOM A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231- 6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] Nov 20 7:15pm Winter Cycling Seminar
MEC Ottawa Presents: Winter Cycling Seminar with Citizens for Safe Cycling Description: Topics to be covered include: * Weather and Physiology* * Clothing* * The Bicycle* * Riding Techniques* * Question and Answer Period* This seminar will be co-taught be nationally certified CAN-BIKE instructors and all-season cyclists Graydon Patterson and Frank McGregor. Date: Nov 20, 2002 Time: 7:15 p.m. Location: MEC, 366 Richmond Rd Ottawa Cost: FREE Organization: MEC/Citizens for Safe Cycling Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Info: 729-2700 Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur ,__@ tOM A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231- 6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] (Fwd) [CfSC] Santa Claus Toy Parade
Given the history of these parades, I suggest anyone with a trailer use it to collect toys. tOM --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:26:19 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Juergen Weichert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[CfSC] Santa Claus Toy Parade Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This Saturday, Human Powered Vehicle Operators of Ottawa will be participating in the Santa Claus Toy Parade. See some of our past events here: http://www.hpv.tricolour.net/events.html If you are interested in joining us let me know, and come to City Hall at 10:30 for an 11am (sharp?) departure. The parade will travel along Laurier, down Bank Street and end at Lansdowne Park. Al kinds of bikes and human powered vehicles welcome. Folders, recumbents, MTB, scooters, kick-bikes, your Mom's old 3-speed etc. Decorate with Christmas theme, wear costumes, or just ride along. Come and help promote Human Powered transportation alternatives. This will be televised, so if you would like to set your VCR, or stream it live to the 'Net or tell your friends then by all means please do. Or just come watch the parade and cheer a lot. Please let me know if you are planning on joining us. Juergen 746-7685 --- Juergen Weichert [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 746-7685 Acclivity Solutions More than just Web design... www.acclivity.ca --- End of forwarded message --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur ,__@ tOM A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231- 6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] Pave the Aboretum paths?
The NCCs plan is to have a paved path running through its Arboretum property. Much of this path would be in the same location as two existing sections of crushed gravel paths, although the paved path would be about 50% wider than the existing paths and would be straighter. The NCC also wants to construct a new section of path to connect the two existing sections. The new section would include a bridge, as a creek cuts across the NCCs Arboretum property. The existing paths meander between NCC property and the Arboretum proper, and make use of a bridge on Farm property to cross the creek. The NCC intends that this section of paved path would connect with other paved recreational pathways. To this end, the NCC plans on altering the area around the Dows Lake Pavilion and HMCS Cataraqui, to connect its Arboretum path to the paved pathway running along Queen Elizabeth Driveway. At the south end of the Arboretum, the recreational pathway would continue up the hill to Hartwell Locks and then to the existing lights at Prince of Wales Drive, where it would cross into the Experimental Farm and continue west using existing pathways (with some modifications). The NCC is not currently concerned with improving the Hartwell Locks crossing. The Central Experimental Farm Advisory Council will be meeting on Thursday. It might be useful for the Council to know your opinion at or before the meeting. One way would be to contact the Secretary of the Council before then: Dan Schmid Manager, Property and Facilities Agriculture and AgriFood Canada 759-1977 [EMAIL PROTECTED] In addition, it would be great if anyone were available to attend the meeting (and perhaps make a statement themselves - there is an opportunity for short statements from the public at the beginning of the meeting). The meeting is at 1:30 pm, Thursday November 14, in the K.W. Neatby Building. Daily users of the Arboretum More info: http://www.theglebeonline.com/noticeboard/gca0211122.html (the author is against the paving) Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur ,__@ tOM A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231- 6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^^=== This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^^===
Re: [obc] 2002 TT Category Results Summary
Interesting! Masters A(30-39) are faster than anyone. And Avery is over 60? tOM On Tuesday, November 12, 2002 at 16:47 Avery Burdett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 2002 results summary for the fastest 15km and fastest three 15km by category (club members) is now available at: http://www.ottawabicycleclub.ca/results2002.shtml Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur ,__@ tOM A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231- 6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] NYT: Big Hopes for Commuting by Bike
http://partners.nytimes.com/2002/10/10/business/10BIKE.html Seeking to ignite growth with products appealing to more than the athletic and aggressively outdoorsy, the nation's bicycle makers are exploring the commuter bike. The idea is to provide an inexpensive and comfortable bicycle that comes with all the essentials lights, locks, suspension, fenders and even a bell necessary for getting to work and back. (You may have to use cookies and register (free) to view NY Times articles, but you can use webwasher to control the cookies and delete the ads. I am told that any current NYT article can be read without registering if you replace the www in the URL with partners.) --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ tOM A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Anacharsis, Scythia (~600 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^^=== This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^^===
Re: [obc] CROSS TRAINING IN THE GATS
I suggest a camera, too. tOM On Tuesday, October 15, 2002 at 15:52, Wilson, Barbara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re [obc] CROSS TRAINING IN THE GATS saying: LIFE AFTER CYCLING ~~CROSS TRAINING IN THE GATINEAU PARK STARTS THIS SUNDAY, OCT. 20 ... Ski poles are helpful but not necessary. Bring a water bottle and a bit of food. Wear suitable clothing and footwear with a good tread. ... --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ tOM A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Anacharsis, Scythia (~600 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [obc] Lebreton detour
Dear NCC, Thank you. Will the 2-year detour also have these widths for the inner and outer lanes? tOM On Tuesday, October 08, 2002 at 16:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Info@ncc- ccn.ca wrote re RE: Lebreton detour saying: Thank you for contacting us. In response to your e-mail, the proposal at the present time is for combined cycle and car lanes. On a divided four-lane LeBreton Boulevard (which will replace the Parkway) the inside lane is 3.6 metres wide and the outside combined lane is 4.6 metres. Adjacent to the outside lane is a 2.8 metre wide parallel parking lane. Combined lanes usually do not have separate striping for the cycle portion of the lane. We hope the information provided is helpful. Information Services National Capital Commission -Original Message- From: Tom Trottier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ... --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ tOM A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Anacharsis, Scythia (~600 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] OBC Annual General Meeting Weds October 30th
Ottawa Bicycle Club Annual General Meeting Join fellow members to receive annual reports and to elect vacant positions to the Board of Directors. Wednesday, October 30th Festival Control Room, Ottawa City Hall (enter from Laurier Ave side) 6.30pm Socialize 7.00pm Meeting http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/whatsnew.shtml - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] Missing link...
As an outside observer (didn't join the OBC this year), may I suggest turning down the controversy? It's easy enough to bookmark Celia's site on one's own computer. No one on this list REALLY needs a link on the OBC website. In a volunteer organisation, it is wise to accept people's differences and work around them rather than exacerbating them and nitpicking every minor failure or difference. That way you lose valuable volunteers' work and create a sour taste in everyone's mouth, even the winners. This is a tempest in a teapot. I suggest taking it off the boil before the tea is spoilt. tOM --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ tOM A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Anacharsis, Scythia (~600 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [obc] [CfSC] LeBreton Flats Pedestrian and Cyclist Plan
Dear Michael, Great! No Yahoo ads. tOM On Monday, September 30, 2002 at 21:11, Michael Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re Re: [CfSC] LeBreton Flats Pedestrian and Cyclist saying: tOM == tOM Trottier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: tOM The NCC sent me the LeBreton Flats Pedestrian and Cyclist Plan they tOM showed me Sep 25. I have uploaded it to: tOM http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ottawa-Hull-Bicycling/files/ (1.7 MB) Thank you! I have put a copy at: http://www.cfsc.ottawa.on.ca/facilities/lebreton/ along with a text version. (The text works out to like 130 columns wide, sorry) tOM I think it is a good plan, with provision for wider curb lanes and a tOM recognition of commuters. tOM There is no mention, however, of a wider curb lane for the 2-year(?) tOM detour of the Ottawa River Parkway. Hmm! ] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | ] firewalls [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net ] architect[ ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device ] driver[ panic(Just another Debian GNU/Linux using, kernel hacking, ] security guy); [ --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ tOM A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Anacharsis, Scythia (~600 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] BringingBicyclistsTogether Conference Oct 5 in Ottawa $40
BringingBicyclistsTogether Conference Saturday October 5, City Hall, Ottawa Ontario Registration $40 - http://veloontario.ca/conference/register.html (Please mention tOM Trottier as referrer. Referrers get entered in a draw for free admission. Hey, you could notify others too!) Coffee, muffiins, lunch are included. I think the most interesting stuff for tourers are the efforts to make an Ontario cycling route network and the experience with the 3,000 km route network in Québec. Other workshops Cool Weather Cycling (with an Edmonton winter courier..b) Cycling Barriers for women How to talk to Politicians and Staff and get them to do what you want. Cycling and the Environment: Making the connection with air quality Delivering Education I: Cycling Educators Roundtable Delivering Education II: How to teach cycling [Cities'] Cycling Master Plans and Standards: what actually works? On Your Bike! BIKE Weeks and other events Full program http://veloontario.ca/conference/program.html --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ tOM A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Anacharsis, Scythia (~600 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] (Fwd) [CfSC] Writer seeks people living w/o a car
--- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 16:39:17 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[CfSC] Writer seeks people living w/o a car Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eleanor Allen, a freelance writer, is currently developing an article on people, and particularly families, who are living w/o a car or using their car less. Right now she's just interested in making contact and will be doing interviews later. If you're willing to talk to her, please email her at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Alayne McGregor [EMAIL PROTECTED] I realized how fortunate we were to be engineers. How lucky for us to be people who built things and took our satisfaction from humming machines and running programs. ... And look, said the lead, demonstrating his handiwork, You just click here, drag here, and click here --- And it *works*, I said. Yeah. he said, exhaling the word in a long sigh of contentment, then standing back, exultant. Yeah, it *works*. -- Ellen Ullman, _Close to the Machine_ --- End of forwarded message --- --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ tOM A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] Cyclist killed
A cyclist was killed today between 2 and 3pm at the corner of Rochester and Gladstone. A gravel truck and trailer was making a right turn S onto Rochester when it ran the cyclist over. tOM --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ tOM A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] Worn out Shorts
Yep, it's clearly an ass fault. tOM On Friday, August 23, 2002 at 9:23, Allan Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re Re: [obc] Worn out Shorts saying: Butt, that is the problem - the behind is being left Usually I comment that there is a nice view of the valley from back here. Then further remarks about the flanking hills, and so forth. --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] (Fwd) FW: FW: Bike access?
For Your Information , tOM --- Forwarded message follows --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:FW: FW: Bike access? Date sent: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 15:53:59 -0400 Thank you for contacting us again. For mountain biking and road biking in the Gatineaus, we invite you to contact Mr. Jean-René Doyon at (819) 827-6011. Please do not hesitate to contact us again, by e-mail at info@ncc- ccn.ca or by phone at (613) 239- (Monday to Friday). Information Services National Capital Commission -Original Message- From: Tom Trottier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 1:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: Bike access? Mainly mountain biking and road biking in the Gatineaus, but I would like to know of any proposed changes to routes or rules. tOM On Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 13:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Info@ncc- ccn.ca wrote re FW: Bike access? saying: Thank you for contacting the National Capital Commission (NCC). In order to answer your information request more precisely, could you please provide us with the following clarifications. What part of NCC land would you be referring to? Would you be referring to Sunday Bike Days or to Mountain Biking in Gatineau Park? These clarifications will help us to better answer your inquiry. Please do not hesitate to contact us again, by e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by phone at (613) 239- (Monday to Friday). Information Services National Capital Commission -Original Message- From: tOM Trottier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 5:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bike access? Is there any truth to the rumour that bike racing(arranged) or bike access in NCC properties will be restricted or eliminated? tOM Trottier --- End of forwarded message --- --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] Bicycle madness
Real Man saddles: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/real-man.html (Isn't that how they all feel after a century or three) Freedom of choice! see http://www.sheldonbrown.com/otb.html#63speed Tom --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] Aug 15 Open Time Trial
Did Meshy win her NZ car? tOM --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] Worn out shorts
On Friday, August 16, 2002 at 10:52, Wilson, Barbara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re [obc] Worn out shorts saying: Hello all: This may be somewhat of a touchy subject but one worth bringing up nevertheless. Cycling shorts don't last forever and the fabric does start wearing away/breaking apart over time, especially at the back, probably from pulling them up and down. Once this happens, the back view can be quite revealing to riders behind. Revealing, in some instances, can be good, but in the case of worn out shorts, I find it quite revolting. I'm sure the owners of the worn shorts are quite oblivious to this. The only way one can check for worn-ness is to inspect the shorts periodically before putting them on. Holding them up to the light and comparing the back with the front is a good indicator. Perhaps we could just reverse them? tOM --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
(Fwd) RE: (Fwd) Re: [obc] Champlain Bridge
For Your Information , tOM --- Forwarded message follows --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: (Fwd) Re: [obc] Champlain Bridge Date sent: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:05:53 -0400 On behalf of the National Capital Commission (NCC), we would like to thank you for expressing your concerns regarding the bicycle lanes on the Champlain Bridge. The NCC, along with its' Consultants, has developed the lane designs for the bridge deck as well as the bridge approaches. Please rest assured that your comments will be taken into consideration as we enter the monitoring and evaluation phase of the CBR project. We hope the information provided is helpful. Please feel free to contact us again in the future, by e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by phone at (613) 239- (Monday to Friday). Information Services National Capital Commission -Original Message- From: tOM Trottier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (Fwd) Re: [obc] Champlain Bridge FYI You might like to have the person in charge of bike facilities to monitor the OBC and CfSC groups. Contact me for info. Tom Trottier --- Forwarded message follows --- To: OBC newslist [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Peter McNichol [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [obc] Champlain Bridge Date sent: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 03:59:18 -0400 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ] Jeffrey Furry wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the bike lanes on the Champlain Bridge are great, even the painted lines. The other day we were cycling south on the bridge (on the correct side) and we saw a man cycling pulling a baby in a trailer. And what would have happened to this man and baby if he were travelling southbound and followed the big white arrow arrow which directs cyclists to make a right turn directly across the lane of merging traffic? It makes me shudder to think of it. That would be true if they were coming from Island Park Drive in Ottawa. If However, if they came from the pathway that would not be the case. Experienced cyclists know better and will ignore this right turn signal and get on the bike lane *after* the merge lane. One can only hope that novice cyclists (epescially ones with baby trailers) will ignore this brain dead right turn arrow and do the safe thing... I do not support the right hook across the merge lane. If the bike lane had been designed to accepted practice then the bike lane would have no right hook. I do not support the bike lane that crosses a right turn diverge and leads you to hop the curb to a pathway. The bike lane should continue to the intersection. If should even continue to Island Park Drive which already has bike lanes on it. Riding on the sidewalk is not the answer. - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --- End of forwarded message --- --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) --- End of forwarded message --- --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [obc] Lebreton detour
On Wednesday, July 31, 2002 at 14:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re RE: Lebreton detour saying: Thank you for contacting us again. In response to your e-mail, the bridge over Booth Street will be removed to create sites for public institutions such as the Canadian War Museum and to open the riverfront to public access. Will the War museum stand athwart Booth St? I presume you mean the sloped approaches may get in the way. I suggest they could easily be accommodated by having a wider hill E of Booth and by integrating the path into the landscaping around the War museum. Otherwise there will be a lot of cross-traffic and delays for all at the new lights just S of the bridge. Furthermore, the bike path that now comes from the west along Ottawa Street goes north on Broad and then east on Fleet will be relocated so that the detour road can be constructed. It will start at the same point in the west, cross the aqueduct at Preston Street continue east between the open aqueduct and the Transitway, cross Booth at the Transitway lights and continue along the aqueduct on the east side of Booth to Pooley's Bridge. Finally, bike paths will be of two types in the future. One recreational and the other more of a commuter route. The recreational path will continue from its present location on the riverfront, continue over the inlet to the aqueduct using part of the existing bridge, around the War Museum, crossing Booth at lights just south of the Chaudiere Bridge and then eastward past the Mill Restaurant and then either into the pathway below Parliament Hill or up to the Wellington/Portage intersection. The commuter route will continue eastward from the shoreline cross under the parkway at the old Transitway exit, pass along the aqueduct on both sides, cross Booth at the Transitway lights for now (if, as and when the Transitway is grade-separated by the City there will be a tunnel under Booth) to connect to the pathway east of Booth along the aqueduct, to Pooley's Bridge and then to connect up the hill to Wellington. Information Services National Capital Commission Thank you for the additional information. My original question was whether you would paint right lanes on the Parkway wider than passing lanes to make fast cycling safer. Do you have an answer? Tom Trottier -Original Message- From: Tom Trottier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 3:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Lebreton detour Dear NCC, I notice in http://www.canadascapital.gc.ca/corporate/_pdf/lebreton/orp/exhibit11_e. pdf that the curb lane is the same size as the passing lane, 3.5m. I believe that the Ottawa City practice is to make the curb lane wider than the passing lane by a metre or so (e.g. 4 and 3m) to allow more room for motorists to pass cyclists proceeding at 30-40kph. Will you be adjusting the curb lane to be wider? Tom Trottier --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] Bumpy rides damage male genitals
For Your Information : http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns86 --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] vote for Meshy
Dear Wright, Eric, Melissa HOLT is the cyclist. tOM On Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 11:20, Wright, Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re [obc] vote for Meshy saying: Our adopted kiwi needs about 500 more votes to win a promo-car back home. As NZ national road and tt champ for 2001, she is on her way to the Commonwealth games this week http://www.incubator.co.nz/holdenpromotion/voteonly/ http://www.incubator.co.nz/holdenpromotion/voteonly/ Eric Wright (member) --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [obc] Hey Avery et al.
On Tuesday, July 23, 2002 at 8:46, Les Humphreys (K) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re RE: [obc] Hey Avery et al. saying: What accident statistics are there to justify this initiative - other than reducing the numbers of cyclists on the road, I wonder if there has been any reduction in the numbers of serious head injuries since helmet use has become mandatory. http://bmj.com/cgi/content/full/308/6943/1537?maxtoshow=HITS=10hits=10 RESULTFORMAT=titleabstract=helmet%2C+helmetssearchid=1027431923314_72 06stored_search=FIRSTINDEX=0resourcetype=1,2,3,4,10 Conclusion : The findings suggest an increased risk of sustaining head injury in a bicycle accident when a motor vehicle is involved and confirm protective effect of helmet wearing for any bicycle accident. This study also reviews the previous literature. Since all state helmet laws cover only children, this applies to children 16 under. http://www.helmets.org/leggrant.htm Section V. Conclusion. Bicycle helmet legislation is effective at achieving its desired goal: a reduction in bicycle accident fatalities for younger riders. Estimates of the effect of the legislation, using a large panel data set and a variety of regression approaches, robustly indicate that legislation requiring youths to wear bicycle helmets reduces juvenile fatalities by about 15%, without leading to an increase in juvenile pedestrian or motor vehicle fatalities as an offsetting effect. Currently, this would represent a savings of about twenty lives per year in states that do not currently have such legislation See other info at http://www.helmets.org/mandator.htm The question in my mind is not whether helmets, or helmet laws, save lives. They do. The question is whether people have the right to live dangerously. Do we have to have all danger mandated out of our control? Will skydiving and rockclimbing be outlawed? If adult macho idiots want to avoid safety gear, let them improve the gene pool by leaving it. Tom PS I almost always wear my fluorescent/reflector-decked helmet. It's not just to protect my noggin, but to show up better to motorists, and to give turning cues when I turn my head. --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] Helmet arguments
See http://www.helmets.org/negativs.htm for common anti-helmet arguments and the site's responses. Tom --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] WTB: Legal TT Helmet
Dear Aaron, I think every current helmet sold in Canada has one or more of the approvals. tOM On Tuesday, July 23, 2002 at 18:58, Aaron Fillion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re [obc] WTB: Legal TT Helmet saying: Does anyone know where I can get a legal Timetrial helmet? Legal meaning one is safety certified. Are there any bike shops in the Ottawa Area that stock TT helmets? I would like to get a: The Prologue http://www.louisgarneau.com/eng/whatsnew.asp#prologue I tried to order one from a bike shop, but they said Louis Garneau is out of stock so they can't get them. Finding a legal TT helmet sure is a real pain. --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] WTB: Legal TT Helmet
On Tuesday, July 23, 2002 at 20:50, Brian Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re Re: [obc] WTB: Legal TT Helmet saying: ... Good job Tom, but you forgot Rebec Kroes, Pecco's (market) and Christie's bicycle ski shop in Chelsea. The gun shop guy on Pleasant Park who sell bicycles and accessories. Those are the ones I know of, their maybe more... I will never again try and take the mick out of you again, well :-). Louis Garneau doesn't list Pecco's, Rebec and Kroes, or the gun shop guy as Louis Garneau dealers. I didn't look at Chelsea. Tom - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [obc] WTB: Legal TT Helmet
On Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 3:24, Avery Burdett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re RE: [obc] WTB: Legal TT Helmet saying: Tom Trottier as usual is confused. To paraphrase Churchill, tomorrow I will be less confused, while Avery has no hope of improvement. Tom --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] WTB: Legal TT Helmet
A salesman told me. I presume it would be Ontario law. tOM On Tuesday, July 23, 2002 at 21:55, Peter James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re Re: [obc] WTB: Legal TT Helmet saying: Tom Trottier wrote: Just that if he can buy it in Canada, it has to be legal. It is illegal to sell a non-certified bike helmet. I'm intrigued - which ministry or department or whatever has the power to regulate the sale of helmets? Can you please provide evidence that this statement is true? --- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] Sommerset Cylclist/Pedestrian Canal Bridge
See http://www.city.ottawa.on.ca/calendar/ottawa/citycouncil/ttc/2002/06- 19/ACS2002-DEV-POL-0024.htm which has details. The Rideau Canal Pedestrian Crossing Planning and EA Study will be presented to the Transportation and Transit Committee (TTC) on Wednesday,June 19, 2002. The meeting will be held at City Hall, 110 Laurier Avenue West, Champlain Room, second floor at 9:30am. The Rideau Canal Pedestrian Crossing presentation is agenda item #3. Nadia De Santi, MPl Environmental Planner (613) 738-4160 ext. 220 (613) 739-7105 --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [obc] Maps of bicycle routes
The city has an advanced GIS system. Perhaps they could be persuaded to print some simple route maps for tourists and residents, specially since the city is now so big. The OBC and other clubs could supply the routes.. Tom --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [obc] Sunday morning ride maps?
The maps are proprietary to the OBC, so I'm not sure we want to make them available on-line - another privilege of membershp. So put them behind a password. --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] Sunday morning ride maps?
.. One on the things that I recommend carrying around is a road map of Eastern Ontario - I generally keep a copy of the provincial road map - good enough when you are getting lost! You can get a PDF copy to print (even cheaper then the real map, and it blows up well). You have the expression wrong. It blows up real good! Tom --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] Yes No - a dyseducational road movie (flash animation)
Enjoy: http://www.sailriders.com/temporary/drive.swf Tom --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] Tuesday, Wednesday Commuter Challenge refreshments entertainment
--- Forwarded message follows --- ... TUESDAY JUNE 4 - If you're riding your bicycle to work this day, give yourself a pat on the back. We'd like to thank you too, in the form of free refreshments at various kiosks around the city to celebrate Bike to Work Day. Between 7:00 and 8:30 AM, kiosks will be stationed at the following locations: the Train Station, Mountain Equipment Coop on Wellington, Bank Third, the Aviation Museum, Lakeside Gardens, Baseline Transitway Station, and Hog's Back West Side. In Gatineau: Maison du Velo (Parc Jacques Cartier), Parc Moussette, and Complex Sportif Mont-Bleu. Just look for our Commuter Challenge banner! WEDNESDAY JUNE 5 - Come and join us in celebrating Clean Air Day. You can even pick up a free coffee, light snack and a newspaper while you're at it. Festivities begin on Wellington St (Across from Parliament Buildings) at 7:30 AM, so leave a little earlier for work and drop by to say hello. The Minister of the Environment, David Anderson will even be there (to be confirmed), and did we mention free coffee? On site, we'll also have a tent with loads of information and displays to help commuters reduce their emissions of greenhouse gases and air pollutants. Also, on Clean Air Day, OCTranspo and STO are generously offering a 2 can ride for the price of 1 special. So, share a bus ride with a friend and join us for a coffee. Don't forget to stop by between 11:30 and 1:30 (same place, same day) and have fun with Gyprock, a local Rythm and Blues band while enjoying your lunch in the wonderful clean air. Come out to one or all the events, we'd love to meet you in person! --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] Missing cycle computer cateye hb100
Sunday night, I came out from the World Exchange and found my computer missing. On the wild chance someone has picked it up off the ground, if you do find it (or have another for sale) please email me. Thanks, Tom ---Questions answered, Answers questioned(no spam, please) Tom A. Trottier, ICQ:57647974 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 758 Albert St, Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 N45.412 W75.714 As soon as man does not take his existence for granted, but beholds it as something unfathomably mysterious, thought begins. --Albert Schweitzer, philosopher, physician, musician, Nobelist (1875-1965) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MensaOttawa http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi- bin/cgi?cmd=view_feedbackid=8382 - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] First Ottawa Valley Vintage ride!
On Thursday, May 23, 2002 at 22:33, David Bilenkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re [obc] First Ottawa Valley Vintage ride! saying: ... The idea is for folks to ride older (pre index shifting and aero brake levered, mid eighties is a nominal cut off) bikes that perhaps don't get out as often as they used to. Gee, that's my standard bike Tom --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] Complaint numbers
Lorries or logs in the lane? Holes humungous? Bugged by buses? Call OC Transpo: 842-3600 Gatineau Park: (819) 827-2020 239-5353 after hours Other NCC: road:733-0117 paths:239- Ottawa city: 580-2400 At least we can help fix it for the next cyclist. Tom (from http://www.cfsc.ottawa.on.ca/reports/complain.html ) --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] (Fwd) [CfSC] Rideau River Bike Lane Blockage
--- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Mon, 06 May 2002 08:41:32 -0400 Subject:[CfSC] Rideau River Bike Lane Blockage To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Andrew Oakes Surprised a little shocked to find barriers up across the bike lane going North along the Rideau River just past the the entry point from Algonquin College (bridge). Bikes were still going through - but if they rip up the pavement at the section were the bikepath dips below the Queensway, that will require a major rerouting for bike commuters onto the Vanier parkway, or across the river. In the few minutes I spent talking to the foreman, about 10 bikes or rollerbalders went through, so this disruption has the potential to affect a fair number of people. The construction foreman said they would try to keep the path open, but he was making no promises. --- End of forwarded message --- --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
re:[obc] 2002 OBC Paris-Roubaix
For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] == Extra! Extra! Read all about it! Get the latest weather, sports, and lifestyle news you can't afford to miss, all at a price you can afford to pay! Click now! http://click.topica.com/caaacQXaVxiDoa2i8p1a/TopOffers == Turn on your scripting or turn off your Webwasher. Tom On Wednesday, April 24, 2002 at 23:15, Bill Taylor who's a [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re re:[obc] 2002 OBC Paris-Roubaix saying: For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Paul et al, Actually, you're not the only one experiencing this phenomenon. I've notice the same thing a couple of weeks ago, and thought it was just my machine or browser. Oddly enough, it's nice to know I'm not the only experiencing this as I can now rule out that it's not a problem on my end. Cheers-for-gears, Bill Taylor At 10:10 PM -0400 24/4/02, Paul Lindsay wrote: For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I added the Paris-Roubaix results to the whats new page of the website. Huh? Is it just my computer, or why can I not access any page of the OBC website other than the home page? All others are blank except for a menu to other pages. Paul L. --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
re:[obc] 2002 OBC Paris-Roubaix
For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] == Extra! Extra! Read all about it! Get the latest weather, sports, and lifestyle news you can't afford to miss, all at a price you can afford to pay! Click now! http://click.topica.com/caaacQXaVxiDoa2i8p1a/TopOffers == See www.webwasher.com It's a program, free for personal use, which controls cookies, ads, scripts, pop-ups, animations, webbugs, etc. Tom On Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 0:41, Bill Taylor who's a [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re re:[obc] 2002 OBC Paris-Roubaix saying: Hi again, Forgot to ask, what's a 'Webwasher'? Bill At 12:23 AM -0400 25/4/02, Tom Trottier wrote: For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] == Extra! Extra! Read all about it! Get the latest weather, sports, and lifestyle news you can't afford to miss, all at a price you can afford to pay! Click now! http://click.topica.com/caaacQXaVxiDoa2kTa6a/TopOffers == Turn on your scripting or turn off your Webwasher. Tom On Wednesday, April 24, 2002 at 23:15, Bill Taylor who's a [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re re:[obc] 2002 OBC Paris-Roubaix saying: For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Paul et al, Actually, you're not the only one experiencing this phenomenon. I've notice the same thing a couple of weeks ago, and thought it was just my machine or browser. Oddly enough, it's nice to know I'm not the only experiencing this as I can now rule out that it's not a problem on my end. Cheers-for-gears, Bill Taylor At 10:10 PM -0400 24/4/02, Paul Lindsay wrote: For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I added the Paris-Roubaix results to the whats new page of the website. Huh? Is it just my computer, or why can I not access any page of the OBC website other than the home page? All others are blank except for a menu to other pages. Paul L. --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*) ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] eye protection?
Clear polycarbonate shooting glasses are strong, light, and usually fit over regular glasses. I have a pair for nite rides. I've found leBaron in Bells Corners to have the best prices for camping, fishing, and hunting gear - usually better than MEC for what they carry, e.g. Leatherman Wave at $94 vs $109 at MEC. Tom On Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 10:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re [obc] eye protection? saying: Hi folks, I had an inquiry the other day about eye protection for cyclists (i.e., her husband)who wear glasses. The woman was looking for goggles or cycling eyewear that can go overtop of regular glasses. I suggested to her to try a ski shop or even better a ski/bike shop. They would be the most likely to carry a wide array of ski goggles, including those that are designed to fit over glasses (and have interchangeable lenses. Anyone know what shops carry these? I also suggested MEC, although I am not sure what kind of stuff like that they carry. I think the idea is for wind water protection. I am not sure if Rx glasses specific to cycling are an option for this family. I've seen them, they are great but $$$, and I think only from an optometrist? Are there any other creative ideas out there? I would appreciate any advice you can offer to this list. I said I would get back to her this week. --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [obc] Day tour starting place suggestions.
On Tuesday, April 09, 2002 at 18:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re RE: [obc] Day tour starting place suggestions. saying: I just cannot believe that I am old enough to say I can remember when but I can. Billings is central and close. Roads access is great. Streets and car free compared to when I was young. One advantage of Billings is its idyllic location by the river and the bike paths along it. It can be a pleasant ride to from, and one can come early to wait in the park feeding the swans. Tom --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] (Fwd) Mail Delivery Failure.
On Monday, April 08, 2002 at 17:25, Rachel Sohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re Re: [obc] Day tour starting place suggestions. saying: ... On another note, I'd like to state my preference for the old format of the calendar, both online and in the newsletter. I find the new one too small to read comfortably You can always increase the text size in your browser - in IE, View - Text size - Largest. The text in the calendar format gets too big for the box, but the text at the right is easy to read. It would be nice to have a text listing of the whole year on one page. I find navigating between months fussy. Even a link Next month would be nice. Now if they'd only have a version I could load into my palm pilot If wishes were horses beggars would ride. Tom --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [obc] Lets just go for a ride
On Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 20:23, Kevin Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re RE: [obc] Lets just go for a ride saying: snip... But posting on the list or webpage would be outreach so prospective members could see more what the OBC is like and the range of its activities and concerns. The best outreach the club has is advertising the huge variety of events members of OBC can take part in (and non-members too ...). I've complained to the Wheels section of the Citizen, saying they should rename it Motors if they don't publicise the local bike clubs. I would think most people aren't really interested in meeting minutes, they just want to ride bikes for fun with other people - which I am 5 minutes away from doing. But for days when it's dark and cold and rainy, or the black ice covers the roads... Tom --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [obc] Recent non-member postings
On Tuesday, April 09, 2002 at 17:20, Avery Burdett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re RE: [obc] Recent non-member postings saying: Michael Slavitch wrote: Avery, you may not recall that it was I who started this mailing list in the first place, as a volunteer. (... snip ...) .. sorry, but that falls far short of the criteria for (free) lifetime membership or the right to be discourteous on our discussion group. I guess you have to be a member to be discourteous g . Tom --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [obc] Day tour starting place suggestions.
Dear Avery, I just haven't paid my fee this year yet - like some other tardy people. Why have you stooped to ad hominem arguments? No reply to the idea proposed? How about using some remote starts at rack'n'roll termini so we can appeal to students and other non-motorised people? Maybe the OBC should be appealing to more non-members so as to make them members! Or are new ideas just unwelcome? Tom On Monday, April 08, 2002 at 18:37, Avery Burdett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re RE: [obc] Day tour starting place suggestions. saying: We would appreciate it if when posting you would identify yourself. Also, exchanges and suggestions are taken more seriously when made by fee paying, participating members of the OBC. Neither you nor the originator of the thread are. Since less than a handful of us know who is and who is not a member, I think it would be a simple courtesy to OBC members for all non-members to identify themselves as such when posting. Avery Burdett President Membership has a price and yields its privileges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an idea worth pondering. Although, in many ways Billings Bridge has is advantages and is somewhat traditional this may be an idea worth pursuing. Just 10 -15 years ago Billings Bridge while being central in terms of east to west was actually closer to the outskirts of the south end of town. Now it is becoming more centralized. This does have greater impact on those riders who cover shorter distances and will end up spending more time in built up areas as a result. Perhaps on some Sunday Rides it might be something to discuss amongst the slower riders since they may benefit from it by have a greater choice of riding locations and covering less distance. Good Idea and worth further discussion. From: Tom Trottier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2002/04/02 Tue PM 04:38:10 EST To: oBC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obc] Day tour starting place suggestions. I'd like to renew my suggestion of new day tour starting places at various rack'n'roll OC Transpo route (2, 95, 97, O-train) ends, e.g.: - Bayview O train station, also on 95 97 routes. - South Keys O train station. also on 97 route. - Kanata Town Centre (West terminus of 97) - Blair bus terminus (West terminus of 2, also served by 95) - Place d'Orleans bus terminus (East terminus of 95) - Fallowfield bus terminus (South terminus of 95) The O train takes 4 or so bikes per car. Each bus can only take 2 bikes, so transit users would have to plan ahead. 95 and 97 routes do run very often though, as often as every 3 minutes. Most of these locations do have restaurants nearby to make it easier to arrive early wait. They all have parking nearby. They are further into the country, so less urban pedalling is necessary, especially for tours East or West. Being on the transit line, they may gain new members for the club, or just make it easier for some existing members who would otherwise have to pedal an extra 20k or more at the start and end of each tour. They would also provide more variety if several were used instead of always using Billings Bridge. Billings Bridge is on the 97 route. Tom --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] Every bike wheel a billboard!
FYA --- Forwarded message follows --- ... E-BIZ TECH REVIEW: LIGHT STRIPS COMMUNICATE VIA INFRARED Here's a fairly low-tech invention that I think may have some high-tech applications: Hokey Spokes. These are $24.99 illuminated plastic strips that clip onto the spokes of a bicycle wheel and flash colored patterns or text messages. The best part is that you can clip multiple strips onto more than one spoke. The maker claims that the devices then communicate with each other using infrared messaging to synchronize their designs and timing. If you can do all that, it seems to me there are a variety of more sophisticated applications for these things. Couldn't you program them to do the wave in, say, a football stadium -- without the fans in the bleachers actually moving? The uses are limited only by your imagination. HOKEY SPOKES LIGHT THE WAY AND DISPLAY TEXT MESSAGES: http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/?7565 ... SUBSCRIBE/UNSUBSCRIBE/CHANGE E-MAIL To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your e-mail address for any of InfoWorld's e-mail newsletters, go to:http://www.iwsubscribe.com/newsletters/ ... --- End of forwarded message --- --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] [OT] Ski Tremblant April 7 for charity?
Get on board enjoy a relaxing day at Tremblant ! Mont Tremblant Bus Trip Sunday April 07/ 02 Spring skiing - $ 65* Non - skiers - $ 25* * Package includes: return transportation from Ottawa via motorcoach, one day lift pass ( if applicable ), complimentary a.m. coffee/snacks, complimentary p.m. beverages and a chance to win prizes. Pick-up # 1 - Leaves Store # 431 - Shoppers City West @ 0630 sharp Pick-up # 2 - Leaves Store # 384 - Isabella @ 0645 sharp The bus will return to Ottawa @ between 6 7 p.m. Payment must be received ASAP *All net proceeds will be donated to the 65 Roses Sports Club in support of Cystic Fibrosis Research.* To reserve, please call Dave @ Store # 569 or 290-4840. From: Dave Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] Day tour starting place suggestions.
I'd like to renew my suggestion of new day tour starting places at various rack'n'roll OC Transpo route (2, 95, 97, O-train) ends, e.g.: - Bayview O train station, also on 95 97 routes. - South Keys O train station. also on 97 route. - Kanata Town Centre (West terminus of 97) - Blair bus terminus (West terminus of 2, also served by 95) - Place d'Orleans bus terminus (East terminus of 95) - Fallowfield bus terminus (South terminus of 95) The O train takes 4 or so bikes per car. Each bus can only take 2 bikes, so transit users would have to plan ahead. 95 and 97 routes do run very often though, as often as every 3 minutes. Most of these locations do have restaurants nearby to make it easier to arrive early wait. They all have parking nearby. They are further into the country, so less urban pedalling is necessary, especially for tours East or West. Being on the transit line, they may gain new members for the club, or just make it easier for some existing members who would otherwise have to pedal an extra 20k or more at the start and end of each tour. They would also provide more variety if several were used instead of always using Billings Bridge. Billings Bridge is on the 97 route. Tom --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] Cycle Computer
Tune's Power-Tap hub is discontinued. See the article on page 2 in http://www.crca.net/newsletters/january2001.pdf A GPS, especially the waterproof Garmin Etrex Summit or Vista, could give you speed, altitude, and altitude gain rate, and you could download the tracks/routes for analysis later. Not to mention staying unlost! Tom On Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 21:11, Gilles Lamenoise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re [obc] Cycle Computer saying: What kind of computer is there that can give me: speed, cadence, grade or altitude, power? I suspect the SRM will do that but I would like to spend less than $1500 US. I would greatly appreciate feed back from users. --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [obc] Ottawa River pathways.
Sounds much safer. Now if only they had a separate pedestrian tunnel at Island park to avoid accidents Tom -Original Message- From: Paul Lindsay [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[obc] Ottawa River pathways. Having attended the NCC presentation last evening regarding the Ottawa River pathways (Champlain Bridge to New Orchard St), here is a synopsis of the major proposals. - The north side pathway will be upgraded to a Recreational Pathway of 3 meters width, and this will be the main pathway through the region. Parts of the current 2 meter north side path will be left as is, being by-passed by sections of the new 3 meter pathway. The predominant new section will be from Champlain Bridge to slightly west of Westboro beach. - The road crossing at Churchill Ave. connecting the south side and current north side paths will be eliminated. - The south side 2 meter pathway will be extended from the foot of Churchill Ave. to Island Park Drive. - The access tunnel between north and south at Westboro beach will be enhanced. - The 2 meter south side pathway will remain as is, but commuters/roller bladers/etc. will be encouraged to access the new Rec. Path. at the New Orchard and Westboro beach tunnels and/or the Island Park traffic lights. .. Paul L. --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [obc] [CfSC] Re: Today! Ottawa River recreational pathways NCC open house
I think the best way to signal the pedestrian nature is to build in a few steps, as is done along Dow's Lake, as well as post signs. Tom On Thursday, March 21, 2002 at 2:02, Peter McNichol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re [CfSC] Re: Today! Ottawa River recreational pathw saying: Design == The design calls for a new 3.0m path to follow the river between the road and the river from the Island Park Bridge to the Westboro beach underpass at Orchard park. Three sections, which had benches on them, would remain as the older 2.0m path, and the new 3.0m path would be separate. This way the benches would not actually be on the main thoughrowfare. The design avoids the need to cross at the current grade level crossing which would be eliminated. The older 2.0m path between the road and the community would be left as is. This path would also be extended from the current pedestrian crossing to Island Park. This would then allow for paths on both sides of the roadway. In future years they hope to extend the recreational path along the river along to connect with Britannia Beach along the river front and widen current pedestrian only path to a shared use recreational 3.0m path. The notice of the meeting can be found at: http://www.ncc.gc.ca/corporate/youropinions/pm_outa_river_e.asp Follow the links and you can fill in a form to be keep informed about future meetings. Comments I went to the meeting. I was there between 4:50 p.m. and 6:00 p.m. I would like to inform cyclists that there was a high senior citizen content at the meeting who where very concerned about loosing the river front pathway to cyclists by having the shared path between the road and the river. There was a strong suggestion to put the cyclists on the other side of the road closer to the community and leave the river path for pedestrians only. They were also worried some of the paths that currently are signed as pedestrian only will loose the designation. This is true even when the design showed the older pathway remaining, separate from the new pathway. They indicated they were still worried about and have seen cyclists travelling on the pedestrian only paths. They felt that some cyclists would use the older 2.0m path closer to the river rather than the 3.0m path only a few metres away. I know I am speaking to the converted here, but the message from the senior citizens and the walkers at the meeting was cyclists should slow down, sound their bell before passing, and pass with care. If more cyclists did that then the walkers would be a lot happier. --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [obc] [CfSC] Re: Today! Ottawa River recreational pathways NCC open house
I think the best way to signal the pedestrian nature is to build in a few steps, as is done along Dow's Lake, as well as post signs. Tom On Thursday, March 21, 2002 at 2:02, Peter McNichol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re [CfSC] Re: Today! Ottawa River recreational pathw saying: Design == The design calls for a new 3.0m path to follow the river between the road and the river from the Island Park Bridge to the Westboro beach underpass at Orchard park. Three sections, which had benches on them, would remain as the older 2.0m path, and the new 3.0m path would be separate. This way the benches would not actually be on the main thoroughfare. The design avoids the need to cross at the current grade level crossing which would be eliminated. The older 2.0m path between the road and the community would be left as is. This path would also be extended from the current pedestrian crossing to Island Park. This would then allow for paths on both sides of the roadway. In future years they hope to extend the recreational path along the river along to connect with Britannia Beach along the river front and widen current pedestrian only path to a shared use recreational 3.0m path. The notice of the meeting can be found at: http://www.ncc.gc.ca/corporate/youropinions/pm_outa_river_e.asp Follow the links and you can fill in a form to be keep informed about future meetings. Comments I went to the meeting. I was there between 4:50 p.m. and 6:00 p.m. I would like to inform cyclists that there was a high senior citizen content at the meeting who where very concerned about loosing the river front pathway to cyclists by having the shared path between the road and the river. There was a strong suggestion to put the cyclists on the other side of the road closer to the community and leave the river path for pedestrians only. They were also worried some of the paths that currently are signed as pedestrian only will loose the designation. This is true even when the design showed the older pathway remaining, separate from the new pathway. They indicated they were still worried about and have seen cyclists travelling on the pedestrian only paths. They felt that some cyclists would use the older 2.0m path closer to the river rather than the 3.0m path only a few metres away. I know I am speaking to the converted here, but the message from the senior citizens and the walkers at the meeting was cyclists should slow down, sound their bell before passing, and pass with care. If more cyclists did that then the walkers would be a lot happier. --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] Speaking of Time Trials...
Dear Rod Plunkett I like Yahoo. No registration maps Canadian addresses. http://ca.maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?BFCat=Pyt=Tmapaddr=city=Ottawast ate=ONslt=45.413403sln=-75.668282Ds=nmlt=45.453592mln=- 75.677537zip=country=camag=9cs=8BFClient=BFKey=poi=poititle=map .x=242map.y=181 Tom --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] (Fwd) [CfSC] Ottawa River rec pathway open house
FYI --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:36:55 -0500 (EST) From: Alayne McGregor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copies to: Alayne McGregor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[CfSC] Ottawa River rec pathway open house Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The National Capital Commission is holding an open house on phase 2 of improvements to the Ottawa River recreational pathways, on: Wednesday March 20 4:30 to 8:30 p.m. First Unitarian Church 30 Cleary Avenue (off Richmond Road, east of Woodroffe) There will be formal presentations at 5:00 and 7:00 p.m. followed by a question answer period. NCC staff will be available at other times for individual questions. The project consists of rehabilitating the pathways between Island Park Drive and New Orchard Road in order to: * consolidate the pathway on the north side of the Ottawa River * meet multi-use path design standards (width, universal accessibility) * take advantage of the scenic vistas along the water's edge For more info: 239- -- Alayne McGregor [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ah, ah, it must be a terrible burden, though, being a hero -- glory reaper, harvester of monsters! Everybody always watching you, weighing you, seeing if you're still heroic. -- John Gardner, Grendel --- End of forwarded message --- --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- To unsubscribe, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [obc] [CfSC] In Many Ways .... Again
Say, 2 series of 1-week daycamps in the summer, and a 1-week end-of-season tour at the end? Perhaps the Department of Transport could be convinced to donate some resources. I wonder if the Y or the schools could administer something like this? This could also provide some college or highschool bicyclists with summer jobs, assuming they earn their CAN-BIKE instructor status beforehand. Tom On Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 14:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re [CfSC] In Many Ways Again saying: ... I have often thought about the possibility of a Youth CAN-BIKE camp. I think youth are the source of future instructors (and the future of cycling as a healthy lifestyle choice whether it be a spin in the neighbourhood, commuting, touring, off road cycling and even racing). ... --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- To unsubscribe, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] Provincial Cycling Route Network
OBC members may wish to suggest provincial cycle routes: http://www.city.ottawa.on.ca/calendar/ottawa/citycouncil/a-cac/2002/02- 18/indexitem9.htm --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- To unsubscribe, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] RPM vs Power
See http://danenet.wicip.org/bcp/gearing.html and http://www.me.psu.edu/lamancusa/ProdDiss/Bicycle/bikecalc1.htm and http://www.xsystems.co.uk/machinehead/gearcalc.html and http://www.ihpva.org/tools/ Tom On Saturday, February 02, 2002 at 16:39, Gilles Lamenoise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re [obc] RPM vs Power saying: Someone told me that there is somewhere on the net a calculator which takes in consideration weight, RPM, gear, power, friction, grade, etc. Would anyone know of a site? Or the formula to use. I am interested to calculate what power is necessary for a given rider to go up Pink Lake at a certain RPM/Gear combination. Any help would be appreciated? --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- To unsubscribe, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] Virus
It's all a hoax. Social engineering virus. Tom On Friday, February 01, 2002 at 22:23, James D. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re [obc] Virus saying: This message was sent to me from Al Horzelenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] The message follows and yes I had it and deleted it. as per instructions. Many apologies for this, but I have picked up a virus that is transmitted automatically via address books. Because I have your address it means that you're likely to have the virus. the virus is not detected by McAfee or Norton, and lies dormant for 14 days or more before it closes down your entire system. To remove the virus use the following: 1. Go to Start click 2. Then click on find or search 3. In the search for files or folders type in sulfnbk.exe This is the virus. 4. In the look in make sure you are searching drive C:\ 5. Click on Search or Find button. 6. If the file shows up, it will have an ugly blackish icon that will have the name sulfnbk.exe. DO NOT OPEN 7. Right click on the file - go down to Delete and left click. 8. It will ask you if you want to send it to the recycle bin. Click yes. 9. Exit out of this and then go to your desktop where the recycle bin icon shows and double click on it. 10. Right click on sulfnbk.exe and delete again or just empty the recycle bin If you find this virus send these instructions to everyone in your address book because they now have it, It is transmitted from your address book. It has a mind of it's own. This came from Linda Jones by way of Tad Pincer in Nassau, Bahamas. I'm sorry we have been all victimised. Al Horzrelenberg Note Al is a C-KAP member, I do not know the others mentioned. I had the icon and deleted it. Cheers :-( Sir James E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.mondenet.com/~jimckap Mailing Information page : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page http://groups.yahoo.com/group/c-kap/members Subscribe : http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/group/c-kap Unsubscribe-Send E-mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] You must be a C-KAP member to subscribe as this is a closed mailing page. -- To unsubscribe, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- To unsubscribe, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] Sunday afternoon bike workshops
Re-Cycles Bicycle Co-op is offering winter workshops! Learn to fix your own bike with instruction from our friendly, experienced mechanics. The workshops will be taking place Sundays 2-5pm, February 3rd-April 28th. Schedule at http://www.flora.org/re-cycles/news.html The workshops are being held in three cycles, each cycle scheduled in a specific order because hubs must be rebuilt before wheels can be trued. Despite this, participants are encouraged to attend any session convenient for them. Only $10 each, no registration necessary but space is limited. Re-Cycles is located at 112 Nelson St. The Depot (1/2 block north of Rideau), Main Entrance, downstairs. B.Y.O.B Bring Your Own Bike! Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more info. --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- To unsubscribe, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] (Fwd) Re: [CfSC] ANNOUNCEMENT: recumbent and HPV group startin
--- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 17:33:25 -0500 From: Richard Guy Briggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copies to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [CfSC] ANNOUNCEMENT: recumbent and HPV group starting Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 05:31:25PM -0500, Richard Guy Briggs wrote: Hi folks! As some of you already know, there has been some talk of recumbents and HPVs recently on this list. We want to take that discussion to a new list so this one might stay a bit more on-topic to CfSC. There is a contact page of interested persons, links and instructions how to subscribe to that mailing list at: http://hpv.tricolour.net/ (It is also http://tricolour.net/hpv/ if DNS has not found the new machine yet.) I completely forgot to ask: Would someone post this announcement on the OBC list please? slainte mhath, RGB slainte mhath, RGB -- Richard Guy Briggs --~\ Auto-Free Ottawa! Canada www.TriColour.net--\@ @ www.flora.org/afo/ No Internet Wiretapping!-- _\\/\%___\\/\%Vote! -- Green.ca www.FreeSWAN.org___GTVS6#790__(*)___(*)(*)___www.Marillion.co m --- End of forwarded message --- --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- To unsubscribe, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[obc] [OT] Sunday Jan 20 Ski pass for sale for Mont St. Marie - $25
[OT] Sunday Jan 20 Ski pass for sale for Mont St. Marie - $25 Tom, 860-6633 until 11 pm, or after 7am. --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- To unsubscribe, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] OBC Photo Archive 2001
Having a CD of photos is great! Instead of custom orders, I suggest Ron offer compilation CDs of each event or month so he can make 2 or 10 (or 100?) the same, depending on the orders. This would also simplify ordering since just the event, rather than the particular photo, could be requested, and making 10 CDs the same is less hassle than 10 different assortments. The best of the photos could also be sent to local papers to aid in publicising the OBC. Tom --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974 N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) -- To unsubscribe, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [obc] Neat article about Gord Fraser
It's hilarious! From: Marlon Tang[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ... There was an article written on www.slowtwitch.com, a triathlon-oriented website, about riding with Gord Fraser on a tandem at the Tour de Tuscon, written from the stoker's perspective of course. Due to language used that some might find offensive, I won't reproduce the article on the email list, but I'll provide the link for those who are interested: http://www.slowtwitch.com/mainheadings/features/riccitello/tandem.html ... --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa Ont. Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974[EMAIL PROTECTED] N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- To unsubscribe, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] Dump Trucks, Dogs, Damsels and Jaguars
That's when you wish for a cellphone and the quickness of eye and presence of mind to note the license number. Tom --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa Ont. Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974[EMAIL PROTECTED] N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- To unsubscribe, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] Cross Training in the Gats
Great hike, bring your binocs watch for paragliders. About 10K 600m up down. The only trail with both East West views. Tends to be muddy - if you're lucky, it will be frozen. I did it a couple of weeks ago. Tom On Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 15:43, Wilson, Barbara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re [obc] Cross Training in the Gats saying: Cross Training in the Gats for Sunday November 25 Meet: PL#13(Blanchet) from Old Chelsea follow Meech Lake Rd. past road to Camp Fortune. Follow road around west side of Meech Lake for a few kms to last parking lot on left. Time: 10 AM Suggested route: Trail #16, cross Ridge Road and continue along Wolf Trail. There is a lovely lookout rock along this part of the trail. Continue around looop, again crossing Ridge Road further up, to another lovely lookout point. Head back to parking lot Bring map, liquids, snack/lunch. Wear suitable clothing and footwear. Ski poles optional. A change of clothes for after is wise if the weather turns foul. See you there! Social after hike somewhere in Old Chelsea Barbara Wilson, Organizer -- To unsubscribe, send a blank message to obc- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter == --- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur - ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231- 6115 _-\_, 758 Albert St., Ottawa Ontario Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*)ICQ:57647974[EMAIL PROTECTED] N45.412 W75.714 - Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- To unsubscribe, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] Streets Trips 2002
Does it include elevations or calculate grades? Can it export to a GPS? Tom On Sunday, September 23, 2001 at 13:27, Bob Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on [obc] Streets Trips 2002, saying.. Microsoft has updated its U.S./Canada mapping software. This is a database of all the roads in the U.S. and most of Canada. Version 2002 is, on first look, a fairly significant improvement to the database. In Ottawa, for example, the 2001 edition would not let you cross the Portage Bridge between Ottawa and Hull; 2002 does. The Ottawa-Kennebunkport trip included Bear Trap Rd. just after the ferry to Vermont. This road is shown accurately now whereas it was not a through road on the previous CD-ROM. I've been using programs like this one for several years to plan cycling routes and I'd love to hear from anyone else who has experience (bad or good) with other programs like this. Bob Hicks --- Abacurial Information Management Consultants Tom A. Trottier, President ICQ:57647974 http://abacurial.com 415-400 Slater St. Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7S7 +1 613 291-1168 fax:594-5412 N45.417 W75.705 (after 2001 Oct 14) 758 Albert St, Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 N45.412 W75.714 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- To unsubscribe, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] re:lowell green on CFRA
On Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 16:44, Rod Plunkett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Re: [obc] re:lowell green on CFRA, saying.. kris jones wrote: I think one lesson to be learned from Mr. Green's statements is that not many of us are perfect. I know the rules of the road, and I know I should be following them, but do I slow down and roll through a stop sign? Sometimes. Do I ride 50 feet on the sidewalk to get to parent st from pecco's? Sometimes. Could I be a better spokesperson for cycling in Ottawa? Always. And I am sure I am not alone on this mailing list. You are right, everyone does these things, both in their cars and on their bikes. The point is safety and driving according to the conditions that exist at the time - if I roll-through, it is safely - if there is any traffic, I stop Yes, I believe in PR stops too. Cars at 4-ways often wave me thru. (how many actually bring their cars to a complete stop at a 4-way?). My view is there is more risk coming to a complete stop on a bike because I have to keep my balance. As for sidewalks, very rarely I take them, but occasionally I will because it is safer - for example - the Laurier St bridge. I take the middle of the lane. Tom Questions answered, answers questioned. No spam, please Tom A. Trottier [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:57647974 +1 613 291-1168 fax:594-5412 415-400 Slater St. Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7S7 *After 2001 Oct 20:758 Albert St, Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8* -- To unsubscribe, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] police traffic enforcement campaign
Dear Greg One problem is that inside Carleton is private property, and all the signs lites have no legal standing. Tom On Friday, September 07, 2001 at 14:22, Greg Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on [obc] police traffic enforcement campaign, saying.. Jennifer == Jennifer Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] Jennifer Police (some of them on bicycles) will be ticketing Jennifer motorists and cyclists for offences and moving Jennifer violations, including... [snip] I wonder if the police will be issuing a report on how effective the program is. (Setting up shop near Carleton U would be like shooting fish in a barrel). ..greg Questions answered, answers questioned. No spam, please Tom A. Trottier [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:57647974 +1 613 291-1168 fax:594-5412 415-400 Slater St. Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7S7 *After 2001 Oct 20:758 Albert St, Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8* -- To unsubscribe, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [obc] results, handicapping?
Like a golf handicap.
But then we're handicapping for performance rather than non-personal
factors. What should we equalise to find the best?
Age/gender handicapping is fairly easy recognises achievement more
than improvement.
Performance handicapping takes more record keeping, and young
improving cyclists will likely always win! Doing this on a seasonal
basis would be better than averaging in the last 5 years of times.
Might be a nice way to have each rider keep a passport for their
times, getting a handicap assigned after the first 3 trials,
recalculated each time, to see if they're improving.
Tom
On Friday, September 07, 2001 at 16:56, Les Humphreys (K) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote on RE: [obc] results, handicapping?, saying..
While the notion of age handicapping may be appropriate to level the
playing field for older competitors, it will always favour riders who
have always been fast, no matter what their age.
An alternative approach would be to compute a handicap based on a
rider's ability compared with a known standard ('scratch time'), such
as the current club champion, and allocate a handicap based on the
difference between a riders average time and the scratch time.
Under the latter approach, the person with the best improvement
would be the winner of the handicap competition. This method
discriminates against nobody except possibly those who do not have
enough performances on record to yield a reliable average. (Such
individuals would be accorded zero handicap).
...
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[obc] Tour departure points Rack'n'Roll
As a peripatic (peripathetic?) tourer, I'd like to suggest, for next year, some departure points for some of the Tuesday, Saturday, and Sunday tours which match up with the end points of OC Transpo Rack'n'Roll. This way, - Cyclists who want to take the bus there or back could be accomodated. - Cyclists can start further out of the city than, say, Billings Bridge or Brittania Beach - Cyclists without a car won't have to cycle 20-50k each way to reach remote starts like Fitzroy Harbour.or Stanley Corners Bicycles are accomodated on the O-train, 2, 95 and 97. Possible tour starts could be: - Greenboro station (transit train, 97) - Woodroffe Fallowfield (95 SouthWest end) - Place d'Orleans (95 East end) - South Keys (97 South end, every bus; further stops lack free parking) - Kanata Town Centre (97 West end) I think there is free parking near each of these. The 2 goes East to Blair or West to Bayshore, but the 97 goes further West and the 95 goes further East. Tours to Quebec could start anywhere along the transitway where there is parking and bridge proximity. One limit is that each bus is limited to 2 bikes, but the 95 and 97 run very frequently, as often as every 3.5 minutes. Another problem is how to divide tours by speed when we are lacking our usual lampposts. Comments, anyone? Tom Questions answered, answers questioned. No spam, please Tom A. Trottier [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:57647974 +1 613 291-1168 fax:594-5412 415-400 Slater St. Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7S7 *After 2001 Oct 20:758 Albert St, Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8* -- To unsubscribe, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [obc] Tour departure points Rack'n'Roll
On Thursday, August 30, 2001 at 8:36, Les Humphreys (K) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on RE: [obc] Tour departure points Rack'n'Roll, saying.. I can tell you from experience that the 97 runs every 20 minutes - if there more than 6 people are waiting with bikes to go downtown from Kanata, any after the six would be faster to ride in than wait the hour for their turn. This plan only works for the casual Rack'nRoller. Would also work if they arrived back at different times. Also, some would be coming across the entire city, not just half of it. It would work better than the current departure points which make no accommodation for any busser. Schedules: 95: http://www.octranspo.com/mapscheds/currenttables/095main0.htm 97: http://www.octranspo.com/mapscheds/currenttables/097main0.htm 2: http://www.octranspo.com/mapscheds/currenttables/002main0.htm Tom -- To unsubscribe, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (613) 230-1064 Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
