Re: [oe] [meta-networking][PATCH] dnsmasq: install .service only with systemd in DISTRO_FEATURES

2013-07-09 Thread Joe MacDonald 
[RE: [oe] [meta-networking][PATCH] dnsmasq: install .service only with systemd 
in DISTRO_FEATURES] On 13.07.05 (Fri 07:45) Guo Chunrong-B40290 wrote:

 Hello, Joe MacDonald
 New  patch was submitted.
 I do not modify (atftp/tracker/gateone)  recips and slim recipes do not work.
 SO the code in these recipes  add  ${systemd_unitdir} to FILES and these 
 recipes work well. 

Just FYI, I saw your patch, I have it in a merge queue, but right now
I'm looking at the bug Paul quoted and the mailing list discussion
quoted therein to see if we can come up with a better, more general
solution.

-J.

 
 Thanks,
 chunrong
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Joe MacDonald [mailto:joe.macdon...@windriver.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 7:18 PM
 To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org
 Cc: Guo Chunrong-B40290; Yu Zongchun-B40527
 Subject: Re: [oe] [meta-networking][PATCH] dnsmasq: install .service only 
 with systemd in DISTRO_FEATURES
 
 [Re: [oe] [meta-networking][PATCH] dnsmasq: install .service only with 
 systemd in DISTRO_FEATURES] On 13.07.04 (Thu 11:50) Paul Eggleton wrote:
 
  On Thursday 04 July 2013 17:26:23 Chunrong Guo wrote:
   Signed-off-by: Chunrong Guo b40...@freescale.com
   ---
.../recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc|8 +---
1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
   
   diff --git a/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc
   b/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc index
   0f5b273..0710893 100644
   --- a/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc
   +++ b/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc
   @@ -30,9 +30,11 @@ do_install () {
install -d ${D}${sysconfdir}/ ${D}${sysconfdir}/init.d 
   ${D}${sysconfdir}/dnsmasq.d install -m 644 ${WORKDIR}/dnsmasq.conf 
   ${D}${sysconfdir}/
install -m 755 ${WORKDIR}/init ${D}${sysconfdir}/init.d/dnsmasq
   -
   -install -d ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system
   -install -m 0644 ${WORKDIR}/dnsmasq.service
   ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system +
   +if 
   + ${@base_contains('DISTRO_FEATURES','systemd','true','false',d)};
   then +install -d ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system
   +install -m 0644 ${WORKDIR}/dnsmasq.service
   ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system +fi
   
if [ ${@base_contains('PACKAGECONFIG', 'dbus', 'dbus', '', d)} != 
   
   ]; then install -d ${D}${sysconfdir}/dbus-1/system.d
  
  I think we should really have a global fix for this issue rather than 
  hacking up every recipe:
  
  https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4309
 
 I'm inclined to agree, but looking at the bug it looks like the potential 
 solution was discussed in February and it's on the schedule for Yocto 1.5, 
 but that's October.
 
 So I did a quick survey, here's the meta-networking recipes that'll be 
 impacted, if we adopt the workaround approach:
 
- net-snmp
- dnsmasq (obviously)
- ypbind-mt
- yp-tools
- ntp
- atftp
 
 I decided I'd have a look at meta-oe for contrast (and guidance) and this is 
 what I found there:
 
- slim
- tracker
- cloud9
- zram
- gpsd
- gateone
 
 On the other hand, xinput-calibrator and xserver-nodm-init,  already have the 
 same fix in it Chunrong is proposing.  So the impact of doing either isn't 
 huge, but it's not small either.
 
 Chunrong:  Would you be willing to retest and resubmit your patch with the 
 above listed meta-networking recipes as a set?  I don't see a lot of sense in 
 doing this piecemeal, I'm okay with taking a workaround until
 #4309 gets fixed, but I'd rather tear the band-aid off all at once, so to 
 speak.
 
 --
 -Joe MacDonald.
 :wq
 

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Re: [oe] [meta-networking][PATCH] dnsmasq: install .service only with systemd in DISTRO_FEATURES

2013-07-09 Thread Martin Jansa 
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 02:58:03PM -0400, Joe MacDonald wrote:
 [RE: [oe] [meta-networking][PATCH] dnsmasq: install .service only with 
 systemd in DISTRO_FEATURES] On 13.07.05 (Fri 07:45) Guo Chunrong-B40290 wrote:
 
  Hello, Joe MacDonald
  New  patch was submitted.
  I do not modify (atftp/tracker/gateone)  recips and slim recipes do not 
  work.
  SO the code in these recipes  add  ${systemd_unitdir} to FILES and these 
  recipes work well. 
 
 Just FYI, I saw your patch, I have it in a merge queue, but right now
 I'm looking at the bug Paul quoted and the mailing list discussion
 quoted therein to see if we can come up with a better, more general
 solution.

FWIW: When I was moving systemd support from meta-systemd layer I was
aware of this issue and I still believe that systemd.bbclass is right
place to solve this, instead of adding conditionals in many recipes.

Old systemd.bbclass in meta-systemd worked like this, maybe it wasn't
most elegant solution, but it could be improved instead of pushing this
issue to every recipes with .service file.

Cheers,

  -Original Message-
  From: Joe MacDonald [mailto:joe.macdon...@windriver.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 7:18 PM
  To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org
  Cc: Guo Chunrong-B40290; Yu Zongchun-B40527
  Subject: Re: [oe] [meta-networking][PATCH] dnsmasq: install .service only 
  with systemd in DISTRO_FEATURES
  
  [Re: [oe] [meta-networking][PATCH] dnsmasq: install .service only with 
  systemd in DISTRO_FEATURES] On 13.07.04 (Thu 11:50) Paul Eggleton wrote:
  
   On Thursday 04 July 2013 17:26:23 Chunrong Guo wrote:
Signed-off-by: Chunrong Guo b40...@freescale.com
---
 .../recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc|8 +---
 1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc
b/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc index
0f5b273..0710893 100644
--- a/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc
+++ b/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc
@@ -30,9 +30,11 @@ do_install () {
 install -d ${D}${sysconfdir}/ ${D}${sysconfdir}/init.d 
${D}${sysconfdir}/dnsmasq.d install -m 644 ${WORKDIR}/dnsmasq.conf 
${D}${sysconfdir}/
 install -m 755 ${WORKDIR}/init ${D}${sysconfdir}/init.d/dnsmasq
-
-install -d ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system
-install -m 0644 ${WORKDIR}/dnsmasq.service
${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system +
+if 
+ ${@base_contains('DISTRO_FEATURES','systemd','true','false',d)};
then +install -d ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system
+install -m 0644 ${WORKDIR}/dnsmasq.service
${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system +fi

 if [ ${@base_contains('PACKAGECONFIG', 'dbus', 'dbus', '', d)} 
!= 
]; then install -d ${D}${sysconfdir}/dbus-1/system.d
   
   I think we should really have a global fix for this issue rather than 
   hacking up every recipe:
   
   https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4309
  
  I'm inclined to agree, but looking at the bug it looks like the potential 
  solution was discussed in February and it's on the schedule for Yocto 1.5, 
  but that's October.
  
  So I did a quick survey, here's the meta-networking recipes that'll be 
  impacted, if we adopt the workaround approach:
  
 - net-snmp
 - dnsmasq (obviously)
 - ypbind-mt
 - yp-tools
 - ntp
 - atftp
  
  I decided I'd have a look at meta-oe for contrast (and guidance) and this 
  is what I found there:
  
 - slim
 - tracker
 - cloud9
 - zram
 - gpsd
 - gateone
  
  On the other hand, xinput-calibrator and xserver-nodm-init,  already have 
  the same fix in it Chunrong is proposing.  So the impact of doing either 
  isn't huge, but it's not small either.
  
  Chunrong:  Would you be willing to retest and resubmit your patch with the 
  above listed meta-networking recipes as a set?  I don't see a lot of sense 
  in doing this piecemeal, I'm okay with taking a workaround until
  #4309 gets fixed, but I'd rather tear the band-aid off all at once, so to 
  speak.
  
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  :wq
  
 
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Re: [oe] [meta-networking][PATCH] dnsmasq: install .service only with systemd in DISTRO_FEATURES

2013-07-05 Thread Guo Chunrong-B40290 
Hello, Joe MacDonald
New  patch was submitted.
I do not modify (atftp/tracker/gateone)  recips and slim recipes do not work.
SO the code in these recipes  add  ${systemd_unitdir} to FILES and these 
recipes work well. 

Thanks,
chunrong

-Original Message-
From: Joe MacDonald [mailto:joe.macdon...@windriver.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 7:18 PM
To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org
Cc: Guo Chunrong-B40290; Yu Zongchun-B40527
Subject: Re: [oe] [meta-networking][PATCH] dnsmasq: install .service only with 
systemd in DISTRO_FEATURES

[Re: [oe] [meta-networking][PATCH] dnsmasq: install .service only with systemd 
in DISTRO_FEATURES] On 13.07.04 (Thu 11:50) Paul Eggleton wrote:

 On Thursday 04 July 2013 17:26:23 Chunrong Guo wrote:
  Signed-off-by: Chunrong Guo b40...@freescale.com
  ---
   .../recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc|8 +---
   1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
  
  diff --git a/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc
  b/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc index
  0f5b273..0710893 100644
  --- a/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc
  +++ b/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc
  @@ -30,9 +30,11 @@ do_install () {
   install -d ${D}${sysconfdir}/ ${D}${sysconfdir}/init.d 
  ${D}${sysconfdir}/dnsmasq.d install -m 644 ${WORKDIR}/dnsmasq.conf 
  ${D}${sysconfdir}/
   install -m 755 ${WORKDIR}/init ${D}${sysconfdir}/init.d/dnsmasq
  -
  -install -d ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system
  -install -m 0644 ${WORKDIR}/dnsmasq.service
  ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system +
  +if 
  + ${@base_contains('DISTRO_FEATURES','systemd','true','false',d)};
  then +install -d ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system
  +install -m 0644 ${WORKDIR}/dnsmasq.service
  ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system +fi
  
   if [ ${@base_contains('PACKAGECONFIG', 'dbus', 'dbus', '', d)} != 
  ]; then install -d ${D}${sysconfdir}/dbus-1/system.d
 
 I think we should really have a global fix for this issue rather than 
 hacking up every recipe:
 
 https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4309

I'm inclined to agree, but looking at the bug it looks like the potential 
solution was discussed in February and it's on the schedule for Yocto 1.5, but 
that's October.

So I did a quick survey, here's the meta-networking recipes that'll be 
impacted, if we adopt the workaround approach:

   - net-snmp
   - dnsmasq (obviously)
   - ypbind-mt
   - yp-tools
   - ntp
   - atftp

I decided I'd have a look at meta-oe for contrast (and guidance) and this is 
what I found there:

   - slim
   - tracker
   - cloud9
   - zram
   - gpsd
   - gateone

On the other hand, xinput-calibrator and xserver-nodm-init,  already have the 
same fix in it Chunrong is proposing.  So the impact of doing either isn't 
huge, but it's not small either.

Chunrong:  Would you be willing to retest and resubmit your patch with the 
above listed meta-networking recipes as a set?  I don't see a lot of sense in 
doing this piecemeal, I'm okay with taking a workaround until
#4309 gets fixed, but I'd rather tear the band-aid off all at once, so to speak.

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Re: [oe] [meta-networking][PATCH] dnsmasq: install .service only with systemd in DISTRO_FEATURES

2013-07-04 Thread Paul Eggleton 
On Thursday 04 July 2013 17:26:23 Chunrong Guo wrote:
 Signed-off-by: Chunrong Guo b40...@freescale.com
 ---
  .../recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc|8 +---
  1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
 
 diff --git a/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc
 b/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc index
 0f5b273..0710893 100644
 --- a/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc
 +++ b/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc
 @@ -30,9 +30,11 @@ do_install () {
  install -d ${D}${sysconfdir}/ ${D}${sysconfdir}/init.d
 ${D}${sysconfdir}/dnsmasq.d install -m 644 ${WORKDIR}/dnsmasq.conf
 ${D}${sysconfdir}/
  install -m 755 ${WORKDIR}/init ${D}${sysconfdir}/init.d/dnsmasq
 -
 -install -d ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system
 -install -m 0644 ${WORKDIR}/dnsmasq.service
 ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system +
 +if ${@base_contains('DISTRO_FEATURES','systemd','true','false',d)};
 then +install -d ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system
 +install -m 0644 ${WORKDIR}/dnsmasq.service
 ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system +fi
 
  if [ ${@base_contains('PACKAGECONFIG', 'dbus', 'dbus', '', d)} != 
 ]; then install -d ${D}${sysconfdir}/dbus-1/system.d

I think we should really have a global fix for this issue rather than hacking 
up every recipe:

https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4309

Cheers,
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Re: [oe] [meta-networking][PATCH] dnsmasq: install .service only with systemd in DISTRO_FEATURES

2013-07-04 Thread Joe MacDonald 
[Re: [oe] [meta-networking][PATCH] dnsmasq: install .service only with systemd 
in DISTRO_FEATURES] On 13.07.04 (Thu 11:50) Paul Eggleton wrote:

 On Thursday 04 July 2013 17:26:23 Chunrong Guo wrote:
  Signed-off-by: Chunrong Guo b40...@freescale.com
  ---
   .../recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc|8 +---
   1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
  
  diff --git a/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc
  b/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc index
  0f5b273..0710893 100644
  --- a/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc
  +++ b/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc
  @@ -30,9 +30,11 @@ do_install () {
   install -d ${D}${sysconfdir}/ ${D}${sysconfdir}/init.d
  ${D}${sysconfdir}/dnsmasq.d install -m 644 ${WORKDIR}/dnsmasq.conf
  ${D}${sysconfdir}/
   install -m 755 ${WORKDIR}/init ${D}${sysconfdir}/init.d/dnsmasq
  -
  -install -d ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system
  -install -m 0644 ${WORKDIR}/dnsmasq.service
  ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system +
  +if ${@base_contains('DISTRO_FEATURES','systemd','true','false',d)};
  then +install -d ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system
  +install -m 0644 ${WORKDIR}/dnsmasq.service
  ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system +fi
  
   if [ ${@base_contains('PACKAGECONFIG', 'dbus', 'dbus', '', d)} != 
  ]; then install -d ${D}${sysconfdir}/dbus-1/system.d
 
 I think we should really have a global fix for this issue rather than hacking 
 up every recipe:
 
 https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4309

I'm inclined to agree, but looking at the bug it looks like the
potential solution was discussed in February and it's on the schedule
for Yocto 1.5, but that's October.

So I did a quick survey, here's the meta-networking recipes that'll be
impacted, if we adopt the workaround approach:

   - net-snmp
   - dnsmasq (obviously)
   - ypbind-mt
   - yp-tools
   - ntp
   - atftp

I decided I'd have a look at meta-oe for contrast (and guidance) and
this is what I found there:

   - slim
   - tracker
   - cloud9
   - zram
   - gpsd
   - gateone

On the other hand, xinput-calibrator and xserver-nodm-init,  already
have the same fix in it Chunrong is proposing.  So the impact of doing
either isn't huge, but it's not small either.

Chunrong:  Would you be willing to retest and resubmit your patch with
the above listed meta-networking recipes as a set?  I don't see a lot of
sense in doing this piecemeal, I'm okay with taking a workaround until
#4309 gets fixed, but I'd rather tear the band-aid off all at once, so
to speak.

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Re: [oe] [meta-networking][PATCH] dnsmasq: install .service only with systemd in DISTRO_FEATURES

2013-07-04 Thread Paul Eggleton 
On Thursday 04 July 2013 07:18:09 Joe MacDonald wrote:
 [Re: [oe] [meta-networking][PATCH] dnsmasq: install .service only with 
systemd in DISTRO_FEATURES] On 13.07.04 (Thu 11:50) Paul Eggleton wrote:
  On Thursday 04 July 2013 17:26:23 Chunrong Guo wrote:
   Signed-off-by: Chunrong Guo b40...@freescale.com
   ---
   
.../recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc|8 +---
1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
   
   diff --git a/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc
   b/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc index
   0f5b273..0710893 100644
   --- a/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc
   +++ b/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc
   @@ -30,9 +30,11 @@ do_install () {
   
install -d ${D}${sysconfdir}/ ${D}${sysconfdir}/init.d
   
   ${D}${sysconfdir}/dnsmasq.d install -m 644 ${WORKDIR}/dnsmasq.conf
   ${D}${sysconfdir}/
   
install -m 755 ${WORKDIR}/init ${D}${sysconfdir}/init.d/dnsmasq
   
   -
   -install -d ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system
   -install -m 0644 ${WORKDIR}/dnsmasq.service
   ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system +
   +if ${@base_contains('DISTRO_FEATURES','systemd','true','false',d)};
   then +install -d ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system
   +install -m 0644 ${WORKDIR}/dnsmasq.service
   ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system +fi
   
if [ ${@base_contains('PACKAGECONFIG', 'dbus', 'dbus', '', d)} !=

   
   ]; then install -d ${D}${sysconfdir}/dbus-1/system.d
  
  I think we should really have a global fix for this issue rather than
  hacking up every recipe:
  
  https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4309
 
 I'm inclined to agree, but looking at the bug it looks like the
 potential solution was discussed in February and it's on the schedule
 for Yocto 1.5, but that's October.

The thing is it could be done by anyone at any time - the bug is at status 
NEW which means the assignee hasn't actually accepted it yet, and the 
solution being suggested is fairly straightforward. Given that I think it 
would be easier to just fix the class and then we never have to worry about 
this issue again.

Cheers,
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Re: [oe] [meta-networking][PATCH] dnsmasq: install .service only with systemd in DISTRO_FEATURES

2013-07-04 Thread Joe MacDonald 
[Re: [oe] [meta-networking][PATCH] dnsmasq: install .service only with systemd 
in DISTRO_FEATURES] On 13.07.04 (Thu 13:47) Paul Eggleton wrote:

 On Thursday 04 July 2013 07:18:09 Joe MacDonald wrote:
  [Re: [oe] [meta-networking][PATCH] dnsmasq: install .service only with 
 systemd in DISTRO_FEATURES] On 13.07.04 (Thu 11:50) Paul Eggleton wrote:
   On Thursday 04 July 2013 17:26:23 Chunrong Guo wrote:
Signed-off-by: Chunrong Guo b40...@freescale.com
---

 .../recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc|8 +---
 1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc
b/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc index
0f5b273..0710893 100644
--- a/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc
+++ b/meta-networking/recipes-support/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.inc
@@ -30,9 +30,11 @@ do_install () {

 install -d ${D}${sysconfdir}/ ${D}${sysconfdir}/init.d

${D}${sysconfdir}/dnsmasq.d install -m 644 ${WORKDIR}/dnsmasq.conf
${D}${sysconfdir}/

 install -m 755 ${WORKDIR}/init ${D}${sysconfdir}/init.d/dnsmasq

-
-install -d ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system
-install -m 0644 ${WORKDIR}/dnsmasq.service
${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system +
+if ${@base_contains('DISTRO_FEATURES','systemd','true','false',d)};
then +install -d ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system
+install -m 0644 ${WORKDIR}/dnsmasq.service
${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system +fi

 if [ ${@base_contains('PACKAGECONFIG', 'dbus', 'dbus', '', d)} !=
 

]; then install -d ${D}${sysconfdir}/dbus-1/system.d
   
   I think we should really have a global fix for this issue rather than
   hacking up every recipe:
   
   https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4309
  
  I'm inclined to agree, but looking at the bug it looks like the
  potential solution was discussed in February and it's on the schedule
  for Yocto 1.5, but that's October.
 
 The thing is it could be done by anyone at any time - the bug is at status 
 NEW which means the assignee hasn't actually accepted it yet, and the 
 solution being suggested is fairly straightforward. Given that I think it 
 would be easier to just fix the class and then we never have to worry about 
 this issue again.

Sure, (thanks for the clarification on the NEW status, I didn't know
that meant it wasn't necessarily being actively worked) but I would like
to see this solved for anyone building a system with meta-networking and
without systemd.  Unfortunately I don't think I'm the person to make the
updates to systemd.bbclass I know very little about systemd in general
and nothing about systemd.bbclass.

I was a little less averse to taking this workaround (I see it purely as
a workaround until a solution is implemented) since there's precedent
and since the spot that Chunrong is changing for dnsmasq has a very
similar construct immediately following for dbus.  I would prefer,
though, if we do take this kind of workaround, it be done everywhere (at
least in meta-networking) in one operation so it's easy to back out
afterward.

Chunrong, do you want to propose a solution like the one referenced in
the above bug?  Or even the one originally suggested by Paul in the bug?
Or does someone else on the list have a WIP on this item?

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