RE: [boring admin] Using other mediums than discussion groups
Hi again, I'm talking about a Wiki Wiki. Karsten A Wiki does not allow for offline answering/use. It makes me go places. However, I want the information come to me. There are mailing lists for those that need them, and with enough traffic, they might even add one for FOSS Health. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mailing_lists Still respectful, Tim Tim Flewelling Information Architect/Architecte de l'informatique Health and Wellness/Santé et Mieux-être Government of New Brunswick/Gouvernement du Nouveau Brunswick Tel (506) 453-2871 Fax (506) 444-5505 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://app.infoaa.7700.gnb.ca/gnb/pub/DetailPersonEng1.asp?RecordID=17800 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message
Mail-in and Mail-out from Zwiki, Re: [boring admin] Using other mediums than discussion groups
On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, Karsten Hilbert wrote: I'm talking about a Wiki Wiki. A Wiki does not allow for offline answering/use. It makes me go places. However, I want the information come to me. Karsten, I don't know about other Wiki's but Simon Michael et al's Zwiki does not suffer from this limitation. - quote from http://www.Zwiki.Org You can receive and send comments via email by subscribing to individual pages or the whole-wiki mail list. end quote So, I can elect to get an email message from the Zwiki whenever someone posts a comment via Web or via Email. I can reply to that email and my response gets posted to the correct Zwiki page. I belong to the Los Angeles Zope Users Group and we have been using Zwiki as a combination of mailing list and Web-based collaboration tool for several years now: http://www.lazug.org/lazugsite/laZugWiki/GeneralDiscussion#bottom I think it is a fantastic tool! Best regards, Andrew --- Andrew P. Ho, M.D. OIO: Open Infrastructure for Outcomes www.TxOutcome.Org
Re: Mail-in and Mail-out from Zwiki, Re: [boring admin] Using other mediums than discussion groups
On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 12:33, Andrew Ho wrote: I don't know about other Wiki's but Simon Michael et al's Zwiki does not suffer from this limitation. So, I can elect to get an email message from the Zwiki whenever someone posts a comment via Web or via Email. I can reply to that email and my response gets posted to the correct Zwiki page. ... I think it is a fantastic tool! I agree. This is the best of all worlds so that content can be maintained and linked/cross-linked, yet it is sent to those that subscribe with them having to go look for updates. Cheers, Tim
Re: Mail-in and Mail-out from Zwiki, Re: [boring admin] Using other mediums than discussion groups
On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 12:49, Tim Cook wrote: I agree. This is the best of all worlds so that content can be maintained and linked/cross-linked, yet it is sent to those that subscribe with them having to go look for updates. OOOPS!!! Pushed send too soon. ...but then Linuxmednews does the same thing and it already gets 1000's of eyeballs a week. Cheers, Tim
Re: [boring admin] Using other mediums than discussion groups
I'm talking about a Wiki Wiki. A Wiki does not allow for offline answering/use. It makes me go places. However, I want the information come to me. There are mailing lists for those that need them, and with enough traffic, they might even add one for FOSS Health. I am not sure we should facilitate splintering of this community. Karsten -- GPG key ID E4071346 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net E167 67FD A291 2BEA 73BD 4537 78B9 A9F9 E407 1346
Re: [boring admin] RES: New email list deleted (was Re: New email list established)
On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 05:34, David Forslund wrote: I think the spam associated with yahoo is from people obtaining addresses of subscribers, but I actually think this is not a big problem. I'm on a large number of yahoo groups. I do get spam but I don't think it is from those groups. It is from the fact that my email address is generally fairly public. I already sid I used honeypot addresses on yahoogroups after an unusual surge in spam. That is, ad-hoc generated email addresses never used for anything else but a single subscription to a yahoogroup. I generally use 10-20 honeypots when I probe for spamtraps. Result with *all* honeypot addresses used on 3 trusted yahoogroups (where I knew the list admins and knew they had no intention whatsoever to sell or forward addresses) was that within 2-3 days these addreses were flooded with spam. You can try the same with hotmail, same result. Tried it with several other free mailing services, and no spam with some (with arabia.com for example there was no spam). Once again: the server is not the problem. There are a number of us (including me) happy to host whatever for free. Including exceeing the functionality of yahoogroups. Setting up a sourceforge clone maybe. The problem is getting somebody with enough time at his/her hands to provide reliable administration Horst -- It is difficult to soar with the eagles when you work with turkeys.
Re: [boring admin] RES: New email list deleted (was Re: New email list established)
On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 05:58, Pat wrote: What about something like PHPNuke/PostNuke/SlashCode/Zope/ etc. Biggest problem with that is someone to provide hosting services. As many admins can be set up as we like. We can also do periodic back-ups of the software data incase the primary host dissapears for some reason. No problem. oshca.net is already hosted on one of my servers, and it runs Zope, Plone, Postnuke already. Since I own this server (colocated at a data centre) we can do with it (and other servers I own) whatever we like. We had some teething problem on this particular server initially (first too many admins, then a hardware fault) but it has been running nicely now for the last fortnight, and it has a huge capacity. Since my oldest colocated root server has now been running with zero downtime since 1.5 years, I believe the one hosing oshca.net should perform similarly once properly set up. Horst -- An optimist believes we live in the best world possible; a pessimist fears this is true.
Re: [boring admin] RES: New email list deleted (was Re: New email list established)
What Horst is offering is generous, practical and would also facilitate better synergy with OSHCA. There is a definite need for better tools besides list servers. But focusing on the short term, Horst is offering the foundation for a solution that can evolve from a simple listserver like the one we have now to a more effective infrastructure. Thank you Horst. Joseph - Original Message - From: Horst Herb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [boring admin] RES: New email list deleted (was Re: New email list established) On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 05:58, Pat wrote: What about something like PHPNuke/PostNuke/SlashCode/Zope/ etc. Biggest problem with that is someone to provide hosting services. As many admins can be set up as we like. We can also do periodic back-ups of the software data incase the primary host dissapears for some reason. No problem. oshca.net is already hosted on one of my servers, and it runs Zope, Plone, Postnuke already. Since I own this server (colocated at a data centre) we can do with it (and other servers I own) whatever we like. We had some teething problem on this particular server initially (first too many admins, then a hardware fault) but it has been running nicely now for the last fortnight, and it has a huge capacity. Since my oldest colocated root server has now been running with zero downtime since 1.5 years, I believe the one hosing oshca.net should perform similarly once properly set up. Horst -- An optimist believes we live in the best world possible; a pessimist fears this is true.
Zwiki vs. LinuxMedNews, was Re: Mail-in and Mail-out from Zwiki, Re: [boring admin] Using other mediums than discussion groups
On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, Tim Cook wrote: On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 12:49, Tim Cook wrote: I agree. This is the best of all worlds so that content can be maintained and linked/cross-linked, yet it is sent to those that subscribe with them having to go look for updates. OOOPS!!! Pushed send too soon. ...but then Linuxmednews does the same thing and it already gets 1000's of eyeballs a week. Tim, LinuxMedNews is a news site. Zwiki is a software tool. LinuxMedNews does not use wiki technology - news articles are reviewed by human editor(s) before they are published. Zwiki allows anyone to edit the pages. LinuxMedNews does not support mail-in articles and feedback/discussion. Zwiki does. You are/were a LinuxMedNews editor. I am a happy Zwiki users (and goes to the same Zope users group (www.LaZug.Org) as Simon Michael :-). Best regards, Andrew --- Andrew P. Ho, M.D. OIO: Open Infrastructure for Outcomes www.TxOutcome.Org
LiveOIO-1.0.8 released: with R integration, Italian + German translations, Live Reports
Dear colleagues, LiveOIO-1.0.8 is now available through Sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=9295 It is a 640MB iso suitable for producing a bootable CD. LiveOIO is a remastered Knoppix 3.3 2003/11/19 (www.Knoppix.Net) that contains all software needed to run OIO server + client. From boot-up, it now takes only a single mouse-click to access a fully-configured, functional OIO server system (KDE + Mozilla are the default client software). Contents include: * OIO-1.0.8 - with psychiatry/research forms, schedules, workflows, reports - with English, German, Italian switchable menu (provided by Anton Auer) - integrated with R (via Gregory Warnes's RSessionDA) for advanced statistical analysis (ANOVA and scatter plot w/regression line in this release) screenshots: http://www.txoutcome.org/screenshots/livereport/anova.png http://www.txoutcome.org/screenshots/livereport/scatter.png - new Live Reports module, for customizable reports aggregating data from multiple OIO forms screenshot: http://www.txoutcome.org/screenshots/livereport/live_report1.png * R-1.7.1 (www.R-Project.Org) - and components needed to link to Zope (RSessionDA, RPy, RSOAP, SOAPPy, PyXML) * Plone-2.0-rc5 (www.Plone.Org) - general-purpose content management system - includes CMFBoard and SimpleBlog add-on products screenshot: http://www.txoutcome.org/screenshots/plone.png * Zwiki-0.27.0 (www.Zwiki.Org) - wiki implemented in Zope and integrated with Plone - includes Epoz WYSIWYG editor (http://www.zope.org/Members/mjablonski/Epoz) screenshot: http://www.txoutcome.org/screenshots/zwiki.png * Zope-2.6.2 (www.Zope.Org) * PostgreSQL-7.3.4 (www.PostgreSQL.Org) As always, feedback and comments are sincerely invited. Best regards, Andrew --- Andrew P. Ho, M.D. OIO: Open Infrastructure for Outcomes www.TxOutcome.Org
Re: [boring admin] RES: New email list deleted (was Re: New email
list established) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 01:11:49 + User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Status: RO X-Status: Q X-KMail-EncryptionState: X-KMail-SignatureState: =46rom new member Douglas E. Goldstein =2DOriginal Message- Horst Herb said On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 05:58, Pat wrote: What about something like PHPNuke/PostNuke/SlashCode/Zope/ etc. No problem. oshca.net is already hosted on one of my servers, and it runs Zope, Plone, Postnuke already. If we go with PHP nuke we have done some nice enhancements for health care that we can share with the group. 1. automatic approval of 'Submit News' to 'Topics' so someone doesn't have to approve them in the back end. Saves adm time. 2. Upload of documents/resources within a database within the site that can accompany any 'Submit News' items as opposed to only being able to attach external links to documents that live on other servers. 3. Bolted mailman in partially via one of the short cut across top menu bottons (search of mailman archives not yet enabled) 4. Creation of Download management feature in the Admin interface Have a great day. Doug =2D-=20 Douglas E. Goldstein President, Medical Alliances - eHealthcare.net Author, Quality, Patient Safety and Cost Effectiveness through Leadership and Information Technology @performance improvement and technology services www.medicalalliances.com @speaking and energizing innovation www.douglasgoldstein.com 703.626.0798 cell 703.548.5676 fax Members-only mailing list to relay mail to OpenHealth-List. Provided as a service to bypass administrative problems at Minoru Please inspect body of list to determine sender of mail, do not simply hit Reply
Re: [boring admin] RES: New email list deleted (was Re: New email
list established) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 01:11:49 + User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Status: RO X-Status: S X-KMail-EncryptionState: X-KMail-SignatureState: =46rom new member Douglas E. Goldstein =2DOriginal Message- Horst Herb said On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 05:58, Pat wrote: What about something like PHPNuke/PostNuke/SlashCode/Zope/ etc. No problem. oshca.net is already hosted on one of my servers, and it runs Zope, Plone, Postnuke already. If we go with PHP nuke we have done some nice enhancements for health care that we can share with the group. 1. automatic approval of 'Submit News' to 'Topics' so someone doesn't have to approve them in the back end. Saves adm time. 2. Upload of documents/resources within a database within the site that can accompany any 'Submit News' items as opposed to only being able to attach external links to documents that live on other servers. 3. Bolted mailman in partially via one of the short cut across top menu bottons (search of mailman archives not yet enabled) 4. Creation of Download management feature in the Admin interface Have a great day. Doug =2D-=20 Douglas E. Goldstein President, Medical Alliances - eHealthcare.net Author, Quality, Patient Safety and Cost Effectiveness through Leadership and Information Technology @performance improvement and technology services www.medicalalliances.com @speaking and energizing innovation www.douglasgoldstein.com 703.626.0798 cell 703.548.5676 fax Members-only mailing list to relay mail to OpenHealth-List. Provided as a service to bypass administrative problems at Minoru Please inspect body of list to determine sender of mail, do not simply hit Reply
