Re: Zwiki vs. LinuxMedNews, was Re: Mail-in and Mail-out from Zwiki, Re: [boring admin] Using other mediums than discussion groups
On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 15:22:47 -0800 (PST) Andrew Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, Tim Cook wrote: . LinuxMedNews does not support mail-in articles and feedback/discussion. Zwiki does. LMN supports all of the above. -- IV
Re: Zwiki vs. LinuxMedNews, was Re: Mail-in and Mail-out from Zwiki, Re: [boring admin] Using other mediums than discussion groups
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, Ignacio Valdes wrote: On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 15:22:47 -0800 (PST) Andrew Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, Tim Cook wrote: . LinuxMedNews does not support mail-in articles and feedback/discussion. Zwiki does. LMN supports all of the above. -- IV Through Zwiki? -- AH
Re: Zwiki vs. LinuxMedNews, was Re: Mail-in and Mail-out from Zwiki, Re: [boring admin] Using other mediums than discussion groups
I think LMN does not support integrated Wiki editing AND mail-in articles and feedback discussion. Ignacio, have you every thought about adding ZWiki or another Wiki to your site... that would be the best of both worlds! -FT On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 07:39, Ignacio Valdes wrote: On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 15:22:47 -0800 (PST) Andrew Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, Tim Cook wrote: . LinuxMedNews does not support mail-in articles and feedback/discussion. Zwiki does. LMN supports all of the above. -- IV -- Fred Trotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] SynSeer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Zwiki vs. LinuxMedNews, was Re: Mail-in and Mail-out from Zwiki, Re: [boring admin] Using other mediums than discussion groups
Here: http://www.linuxmednews.com/LMNZwiki Not integrated. -- IV On 06 Feb 2004 13:57:27 -0600 Fred Trotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think LMN does not support integrated Wiki editing AND mail-in articles and feedback discussion. Ignacio, have you every thought about adding ZWiki or another Wiki to your site... that would be the best of both worlds! -FT On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 07:39, Ignacio Valdes wrote: On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 15:22:47 -0800 (PST) Andrew Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, Tim Cook wrote: . LinuxMedNews does not support mail-in articles and feedback/discussion. Zwiki does. LMN supports all of the above. -- IV -- Fred Trotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] SynSeer
Python Ports and other obscure thinking was: Zwiki vs. LinuxMedNews, was Re: Mail-in and Mail-out from Zwiki, Re: [boring admin] Using other mediums than discussion groups
On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 15:22, Andrew Ho wrote: You are/were a LinuxMedNews editor. I am a happy Zwiki users (and goes to the same Zope users group (www.LaZug.Org) as Simon Michael :-). Interesting comment. I'm not certain if there is a point to be made. I do volunteer my time on occasion to various FOSS projects when and where I can help. LMN is one of them. I should point out the word volunteer if the inference is, as I have taken it to mean, that there may be some other motive to my mentioning LMN? I appreciate the work of Simon Michael. His porting of Wiki to the Python language (and the Zope application server) is appreciated by many. Certainly I am one of them. His other work such as FIT (processing HTML tables) was important to FreePM, TORCH 1.x and likely OIO. I think we have evolved beyond FIT in the Python/Zope world with the better separation of data and presentation via CSS. This allows for improved support of unit testing within Zope applications running under the CMS Plone frameworks. But certainly I digress into project specific methods and terminology here and it is best to leave that to those mailing lists. You can find a list of projects at: http://www.linuxmednews.com/LMNProjects with another list at: http://www.euspirit.org/en/list.php?offses=100 and one at: http://www.txoutcome.org/scripts/zope/library Is that enough so it isn't inferred that I am playing favorites? That's ok; because I do play favorites. Don't we all have favorites based on what makes us feel warm and cozy and what solves our needs? Gosh! I should'a been a shrink! Cheers, Tim
Re: Python Ports and other obscure thinking was: Zwiki vs. LinuxMedNews, was Re: Mail-in and Mail-out from Zwiki, Re: [boring admin] Using other mediums than discussion groups
On Sat, 2004-02-07 at 10:30, Tim Cook wrote: I appreciate the work of Simon Michael. His porting of Wiki to the Python language (and the Zope application server) is appreciated by many. Certainly I am one of them. MoinMoin (see http://moin.sf.net) is another excellent Python-based WikiWiki which we have used on our intranet with excellent results. It is not based on Zope, and thus a good choice if you aren't into Zope. We have also used Twiki, which has even more features than MoinMoin but is written in Perl and would appear to be a lot harder to extend than wikis written in Python, even for Perl gurus. -- Tim C PGP/GnuPG Key 1024D/EAF993D0 available from keyservers everywhere or at http://members.optushome.com.au/tchur/pubkey.asc Key fingerprint = 8C22 BF76 33BA B3B5 1D5B EB37 7891 46A9 EAF9 93D0 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Mail-in and Mail-out from Zwiki, Re: [boring admin] Using other mediums than discussion groups
On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, Karsten Hilbert wrote: I'm talking about a Wiki Wiki. A Wiki does not allow for offline answering/use. It makes me go places. However, I want the information come to me. Karsten, I don't know about other Wiki's but Simon Michael et al's Zwiki does not suffer from this limitation. - quote from http://www.Zwiki.Org You can receive and send comments via email by subscribing to individual pages or the whole-wiki mail list. end quote So, I can elect to get an email message from the Zwiki whenever someone posts a comment via Web or via Email. I can reply to that email and my response gets posted to the correct Zwiki page. I belong to the Los Angeles Zope Users Group and we have been using Zwiki as a combination of mailing list and Web-based collaboration tool for several years now: http://www.lazug.org/lazugsite/laZugWiki/GeneralDiscussion#bottom I think it is a fantastic tool! Best regards, Andrew --- Andrew P. Ho, M.D. OIO: Open Infrastructure for Outcomes www.TxOutcome.Org
Re: Mail-in and Mail-out from Zwiki, Re: [boring admin] Using other mediums than discussion groups
On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 12:33, Andrew Ho wrote: I don't know about other Wiki's but Simon Michael et al's Zwiki does not suffer from this limitation. So, I can elect to get an email message from the Zwiki whenever someone posts a comment via Web or via Email. I can reply to that email and my response gets posted to the correct Zwiki page. ... I think it is a fantastic tool! I agree. This is the best of all worlds so that content can be maintained and linked/cross-linked, yet it is sent to those that subscribe with them having to go look for updates. Cheers, Tim
Re: Mail-in and Mail-out from Zwiki, Re: [boring admin] Using other mediums than discussion groups
On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 12:49, Tim Cook wrote: I agree. This is the best of all worlds so that content can be maintained and linked/cross-linked, yet it is sent to those that subscribe with them having to go look for updates. OOOPS!!! Pushed send too soon. ...but then Linuxmednews does the same thing and it already gets 1000's of eyeballs a week. Cheers, Tim
Zwiki vs. LinuxMedNews, was Re: Mail-in and Mail-out from Zwiki, Re: [boring admin] Using other mediums than discussion groups
On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, Tim Cook wrote: On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 12:49, Tim Cook wrote: I agree. This is the best of all worlds so that content can be maintained and linked/cross-linked, yet it is sent to those that subscribe with them having to go look for updates. OOOPS!!! Pushed send too soon. ...but then Linuxmednews does the same thing and it already gets 1000's of eyeballs a week. Tim, LinuxMedNews is a news site. Zwiki is a software tool. LinuxMedNews does not use wiki technology - news articles are reviewed by human editor(s) before they are published. Zwiki allows anyone to edit the pages. LinuxMedNews does not support mail-in articles and feedback/discussion. Zwiki does. You are/were a LinuxMedNews editor. I am a happy Zwiki users (and goes to the same Zope users group (www.LaZug.Org) as Simon Michael :-). Best regards, Andrew --- Andrew P. Ho, M.D. OIO: Open Infrastructure for Outcomes www.TxOutcome.Org
