Re: OSHCA Meetings (was) Re: [openhealth] Re: List future [was: Why are you here?]
Tim, Sorry didn't mean to dampen enthusiasm and imply that a satellite conference in 2007 was impossible to pull offwhat I meant was that in general you need operating capital to be able to pick where you want to hold a meeting. In fact a satellite conference is preferable to imbedding a meeting in Medinfo because of the cost of registration. A low risk strategy is to find a willing host that can provide the space to meet and ideally food services that are within walking distance - a university or something like that. BTWthe London meeting shadowed MedInfo and OSHCA was able to collaborate with the Medinfo organizers advertise our meeting on the Medinfo website and vice versa which generated a great turn out. Joseph Tim.Churches wrote: Joseph Dal Molin wrote: While it makes sense to shadow MedInfo it may be difficult to do anything more than a birds of a feather meeting initially without first establishing self sustainabilitythe critical success factors for successful OSHCA meetings so far have been: - a local sponsor/champion eg. Mike McCoy and Colin Smith (Los Angles and London) - champion(s) and well connected organizing committee in OSCHA The first one was always the most important because it allowed OSHCA to stage a meeting without any financial risk or commitment.something that is absolutely necessary when you don't have operating capital. This also meant that OSHCA had to be opportunistic and follow the money in deciding where meetings would take place. I think it makes sense to seek some seed money for an initial meeting with the goal of self-sustainability through a combination of attendance fees, and sponsorship. OK, no OSHCA satellite conference around MedInfo 2007 then. Anyway, is anyone interested in an open source workshop or BOF meeting as part of MedInfo in Brisbane in 2007? Tim C IMHO meeting every 3 years is setting the bar too lowOSHCA was able to meet every year for four years in a row and clearly was gaining momentum. With the OSHCA.org issue resolved, the integration of the discussion lists and most importantly the renewed spirit of harmony a more ambitious agenda is quite realistic. Joseph Will Ross wrote: On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:48:46 -0800 Horst Herb wrote: On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 03:34, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: Adrian, thanks for the smile and words of wisdom.hopefully it won't be long before we have an opportunity to meet again. One of the first things on the OSHCA agenda IMHO should be a conference. Every one we had was unique and inspiring event and essential to community building I would volunteer to organize it in Australia - sure, it's a long way from anywhere else, but it can be damn nice, it's safe, and it can be very cheap too once the flight has been paid. Horst I propose we meet Brisbane in August 2007 http://www.medinfo2007.org/ Meeting in 2006 would also be nice, but may be more difficult to pull off. I have the sense that the scale of our collaboration would be stretched by attempting to meet too often. If we shadow MedInfo's pattern, once every three years, could be a good fit for now, and we can follow MedInfo as it hops about the globe. [wr] - - - - - - - - will ross project manager mendocino informatics 216 west perkins street, suite 206 ukiah, california 95482 usa 707.272.7255 [voice] 707.462.5015 [fax] www.minformatics.com - - - - - - - - SPONSORED LINKS Software distribution http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Software+distributionw1=Software+distributionw2=Salon+softwarew3=Medical+softwarew4=Software+associationw5=Software+jewelryw6=Software+deploymentc=6s=142.sig=XcuzZXUhhqAa4nls1QYuCg http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Software+distributionw1=Software+distributionw2=Salon+softwarew3=Medical+softwarew4=Software+associationw5=Software+jewelryw6=Software+deploymentc=6s=142.sig=XcuzZXUhhqAa4nls1QYuCg http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Software+distributionw1=Software+distributionw2=Salon+softwarew3=Medical+softwarew4=Software+associationw5=Software+jewelryw6=Software+deploymentc=6s=142.sig=XcuzZXUhhqAa4nls1QYuCg http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Software+distributionw1=Software+distributionw2=Salon+softwarew3=Medical+softwarew4=Software+associationw5=Software+jewelryw6=Software+deploymentc=6s=142.sig=XcuzZXUhhqAa4nls1QYuCg Salon software http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Salon+softwarew1=Software+distributionw2=Salon+softwarew3=Medical+softwarew4=Software+associationw5=Software+jewelryw6=Software+deploymentc=6s=142.sig=CW98GQRF3_rWnTxU62jsdA
Re: OSHCA Meetings (was) Re: [openhealth] Re: List future [was: Why are you here?]
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 03:47, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: to hold a meeting. In fact a satellite conference is preferable to imbedding a meeting in Medinfo because of the cost of registration. A low risk strategy is to find a willing host that can provide the space to meet and ideally food services that are within walking distance - a university or something like that. No worries. It is not the first conference I organize here. I was on the committee organizing two RACGP conferences (some 2000 delegates each), and together with another colleague we organized a smaller scale conference (60 delegates) ourselves too - the latter worked out very cheap and flawless. We used no sponsors deliberately - instead we negotiated with a nice resort off season to provide us all facilities for free in exchange for booking a larger number of rooms in block. We got the rooms at 60% regular rate, two large meeting rooms, audiovisual equipment, and they even threw in an afternoon tea. We could use the meeting room even at night, they gave us the key (we used it for a social gathering and watched movies on the big screen). Only thing delegates had to pay for was conference lunch and diner. Would do it the same way again Horst
Re: OSHCA Meetings (was) Re: [openhealth] Re: List future [was: Why are you here?]
totally agree about the eggs Tim.Churches wrote: Joseph Dal Molin wrote: Tim, Sorry didn't mean to dampen enthusiasm and imply that a satellite conference in 2007 was impossible to pull offwhat I meant was that in general you need operating capital to be able to pick where you want to hold a meeting. In fact a satellite conference is preferable to imbedding a meeting in Medinfo because of the cost of registration. A low risk strategy is to find a willing host that can provide the space to meet and ideally food services that are within walking distance - a university or something like that. No, I agree completely. BTWthe London meeting shadowed MedInfo and OSHCA was able to collaborate with the Medinfo organizers advertise our meeting on the Medinfo website and vice versa which generated a great turn out. I think that those interested in OSHCA should organise a satellite mtg if they wish, but that an open source workshop or some other meeting under the auspices of MedInfo2007 should also be pursued. Let's not put all our eggs in one basket...
Re: OSHCA Meetings (was) Re: [openhealth] Re: List future [was: Why are you here?]
James, Here is a quick review of how past sponsorship of past events came about: Meeting 1 - Rome - Bud Bruegger, one of the founders of OSHCA, was working on an open source lab project for a joint FAO/IAEA initiative. Bud's clients provided meeting space and refreshmentsattendees covered their own expenses. Meeting 2 - London - Colin Smith who at the time was with the UK NHS Information Authority invited me to brief the CEO and executive team on the subject of open source in healthduring the discussion of next steps, sponsorship of the next OSHCA meeting was adopted Meeting 3 - UCLA Los Angeles - Mike McCoy attended the London meeting, someone mentioned that Mike was interested in hosting a meeting, I approached Mike at the meeting and asked if he would commit to hosting which he did Meeting 4 - Geneva - Dr. Osmand Ratib of UCLA invited Dr. Antoine Geissbuhler from the Univ. Hosp. of Geneva to the LA meeting. Antoine was considering hosting the next meeting and confirmed after attending UCLA's OSHCA event. As for 2006, what I think is realistic is a seed meeting. One possibility that comes to mind is the Mednet meeting in Toronto in October. I live in Toronto and know have collaborated with local organizers before.will drop them a line and see if they might be interested in having an OSHCA open source workshop. Joseph James Busser wrote: On Mar 18, 2006, at 8:56 AM, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: the critical success factors for successful OSHCA meetings so far have been: - a local sponsor/champion eg. Mike McCoy and Colin Smith (Los Angles and London) - champion(s) and well connected organizing committee in OSCHA Anyone have contacts/ideas for potential sponsor/champions in Brisbane? To what can we credit the past sponsorship/championing of Mike McCoy and Colin Smith? Maybe if we understand that, it will help to sustain reproduce it.
