[opensocial] Request: Add a container.supports() method

2007-11-07 Thread RickMeasham

(This request is on the wishlist page, but this provides a forum for
discussing it)

Offering a method tentatively called 'container.supports()' will allow
developers to test various features of the container.

For example, ning (as of this moment) doesn't appear to support canvas
pages. That's where I put the preferences interface for my users, so I
need to do something about that. Like let you set the preferences from
the profile view.

But I don't want every container to offer a 'set preferences' button
on the profile, only those that have no canvas. Therefore I'd do
something like this:

   if( ! container.supports('canvas') ){
  showPrefsButtonOnProfile()
   }


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[opensocial] Re: OpenSocial using gData API

2007-11-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You're absolutely right and I think google should at least be more
sympathetic about us, tell us that this feature is not working yet and
let us know if or when this will be ready instead of letting us -
developers - get all excited about it and then get hugely disappointed
with all this OpenSocial turmoil...


On Nov 7, 10:22 am, Julian Bond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 The me shortcut doesn't seem to work.  But if you get the OpenSocial
 ID of a user using the JavaScript API, and then request the feed using
 that userid, that works.  (THe OpenSocial ids are different to the
 regular Orkut ids.)

 Can I be the first to go AAARG!?! ;)

 I'm much more interested in the Data APIs than the Gadget code. I want
 to implement them quickly in the social network I code for. I'm feeling
 incredibly frustrated that the Data API specs are not complete and that
 the only example of them is Orkut where the implementation is not only
 incomplete but is quirky (flaky, broken, etc) .

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[opensocial] Re: How to access the data from another page

2007-11-07 Thread MrGamma

Can't you dump the variables into cookies?




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[opensocial] Re: Desktop like application for Orkut

2007-11-07 Thread Chris Chabot

Documentation clearly states this _should_ work, but indeed my own  
first steps into this area also have shown that it doesn't yet.

so far they've really just implemented the people gadget api, and the  
rest seems to be mostly work-in-progress, true 'alpha' and not 'beta',  
let alone google style beta :-)

-- Chris

On Nov 7, 2007, at 9:49 AM, albar wrote:


 Same for me: ClientLogin with service=ot doesn't work. If you change
 ot to other registered service id you authenticate but then the
 subsequent calls to other opensocial API don't work.

 I'm very interest in writing Java code and/or Web apps (NOT gadgets)
 that can access Social Sites profile data and manage notification of
 activities, but it seems to be impossible by now.
 I'd really like to understand if it's due to this early beta (so, I'll
 stop and wait) or if this will be impossible by design... anyone has a
 clear view?

 cheers


 

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[opensocial] can i access my orkut profile using java ?

2007-11-07 Thread tainic

I want to access my orkut profile information using java.
Reading the docs I found I need to use this:

   People Data API
   
http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/docs/gdata/people/developers_guide_protocol.html

I tried the following code to authenticate:

   GoogleService myService = new GoogleService(ot, exampleCo-
exampleApp-1);
   myService.setUserCredentials([EMAIL PROTECTED], mypassword);

but it didn't work.

I am new to this. How can I do it ? People Data API isn't released
yet. Should I wait some more time until it is released ? Or am I
missing something and I can do this in another way ? (From what I've
read I can access my profile information only by using the JavaScript
API).


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[opensocial] Export friend list

2007-11-07 Thread webjay

If an OpenSocial app can get a lidt of my friends and send it anywhere
via Ajax, It's possible to export my friend list?

/Jacob


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[opensocial] Re: OpenSocial using gData API

2007-11-07 Thread bronson

Yuppers, getting the same error with the scope equaling
sandbox.orkut.com/feeds

other API's like the Calendar work fine for me as well.

I guess, I'll come back at some point in the future and try again.


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 I am attempting to use the gData API to access OpenSocial as described
 here:http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/docs/gdata/people/developers_g...
 However, I am running into a roadblock at every point.

 The tutorial suggests using this 
 URL:https://www.google.com/accounts/AuthSubRequest?scope=http%3A%2F%2Fsan...
 If I copy and paste this URL, after logging in, I see the error:
 The scope parameter was bad or missing.

 Yes, I am registered for the sandbox, and I have also tried it with a
 variety of next urls, and If I replace the scope URL by another one,
 say the Calendar API URL it works but of course gives an incorrect
 scope.

 I suspect there is a documentation error in the OpenSocial gData
 pages. I've tried every combination of http/https, with/without
 sandbox in front, etc. to no avail.

 Is there any way to get the list of valid scope URLs.  And if AuthSub
 is not to be used for OpenSocial, there ought to be a note saying so
 rather than a broken link in the API documentation.
 In that case, what is the proper authentication method to use?  Do I
 need to use the ClientLogin method which means having to store the
 users' passwords?

 My next question, assuming that I log into a different scope like
 blogger or google base:
 If I access the URLhttp://orkut.com/feeds/people/me
 orhttp://orkut.com/feeds/people/me/friends.
 (With or without a sandbox in the hostname makes no difference)

 I end up with a 404 error if I am using HTTP, and even worse, if I use
 HTTPS, it redirects me to http://www.google.com/; with no indication
 of error or success.
 I assume I am doing something wrong, but I would like an error message
 that acknowledges that I am attempting to access a feed the wrong way
 rather than an absolutely meaningless 404 or 302 response.

 Thanks a lot for your help,
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[opensocial] View this page OpenSocial Issues List

2007-11-07 Thread ronman



Click on 
http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-api/web/opensocial-issues-list
- or copy  paste it into your browser's address bar if that doesn't
work.


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[opensocial] Re: opensocial is not defined

2007-11-07 Thread Rohit Kumar
I have  been trying for past 5 hours and i am still getting :

opensocial is not defined
var req = opensocial.newDataRequest();

can anybody guide me into this? Please note that i am getting the error even
using the example provided in the open social documentation

http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/docs/javascript/index.html#ListFriends_Complete

The feature required is also added.

Require feature=opensocial-0.5/

I have tried clearing the cache, even using bpc=1 loading the application
still facing the same issue. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Rohit Kumar
www.toostep.com



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 It seems better for me.
 Didier

 On Nov 7, 1:57 am, Arne Roomann-Kurrik (Google)
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  fixed.  Can someone who was consistently getting these errors please
  try again and post regarding whether you're still seeing it?
 
  Note that this is only with regards for the 502 response, not the no
  donut errors.
 
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[opensocial] Re: How to access the data from another page

2007-11-07 Thread sanjaymk

I think the situation and my experience is far worse. You cant build
an app that does any multipage flows. As soon as you leave the
main page (instantiated by gmodules.com), you get opensocial
is not defined errors. Forget multipages, I thought I was being
smart and created a frame pulling content from my site
(mymusik.us).  And lost the opensocial context.

Dont even bother adding your variables to a url and invoking
say sandbox.orkut.com/Application.aspx?appId=...yourvar=xx
You will get a Location.toString permission denied if you
attempt accessing the window.location.search string for
the top level url (or window.top...) The top level url comes
from gmodules.com. Your js doesnt.

I cant do anything interesting with opensocial till they fix
the contenttype=url flows.
-Sanjay

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 Tried it already , but cant send Cookies to multiple domains ;-.

 On Nov 7, 2:05 am, MrGamma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Can't you dump the variables into cookies?


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[opensocial] Getting a person's picture

2007-11-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

person.getField ('picture') doesn't work for me.  It keeps returning
null for all persons.  Am I doing something wrong?


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[opensocial] Re: opensocial is not defined

2007-11-07 Thread Jerome

Same here... getting the same error about opensocial not defined.

Jerome

On Nov 7, 12:31 pm, TylerKeen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Im getting the same thing. This wasnt happening last night. This is
 new today.

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  I get this opensocial nto defined error from the javascript console
  when loading my Gadget in orkut..this code is taken from the
  examples..

  At:http://mr6ctaju-a.gmodules.com/ig/ifr?url=http://hosting.gmodules.com...
  requesting friends

  On Nov 6, 4:57 pm, Arne Roomann-Kurrik (Google)

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   donut errors.

   Thanks,
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[opensocial] Re: Open Social or Widget Distribution

2007-11-07 Thread MrGamma

 Also consider that having a common data API will eventually allow for
 the sharing of resources between networks.  We just need to continue
 the momentum and keep moving forward.

You are right... I am just skeptical... It is still a very promising
concept. A very very promising concept... I am just a little miffed
about a certain presentation I saw which lead me to believe one thing
when really it's something else at this point.

That doesn't mean it will not grow into something more powerful and
truly FreeWeb. I would much rather have a common data set to work with
and if this is all that it offers in the end then that will be the
most important and beneficial step... I think the mini app
distribution model is obviously pitched high up on the corporate to
ensure profitable returns are made through a better user experience...
but in the end... if this boils down to another netscape/explorer
messenger/googletalk svg/vml battle of the corporate branding
identities and cross network functionality is not realized... what a
waste of time it will be for everyone...

Right now... I will take your positive attitude to heart...


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[opensocial] authenticating in javascript

2007-11-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

trying to get google calendar information so attempted authentication
in js as follow:

function logMeIn() {  scope = http://www.google.com/calendar/feeds;;
var token = google.accounts.user.login(scope);}

which is straight from the calendar api examples.

instead of expected authentication page, google error page comes up
with message

 The page you have requested cannot be displayed. Another site was
requesting access to your Google Account, but sent a malformed
request. Please contact the site that you were trying to use when you
received this message to inform them of the error. A detailed error
message follows:

The scope parameter was bad or missing.

Can retrieve calendar feeds which don't require authentication. Is
there a way to authenticate in an opensocial using the js interface
for feeds which require that?


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[opensocial] Re: Open Social or Widget Distribution

2007-11-07 Thread Paul Lindner

On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 12:16:32AM -0800, MrGamma wrote:
 
 Unless this OpenSocial concept intends to actually connect people
 across networks allowing them to share their resources... friends
 lists, messages, ect... then it does nothing but provide a way for you
 to develop software for someone else for free...

That's a bit harsh, and I think that Slide, Rock You and a bunch of
other successful widget companies would dispute your assertion.

Right now OpenSocial is a bit messy and there are kinks to work out,
especially on the RESTful api.  Consider this your chance to have your
voice heard and help to make OpenSocial meet your own needs.

Also consider that having a common data API will eventually allow for
the sharing of resources between networks.  We just need to continue
the momentum and keep moving forward.

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[opensocial] Behaviour javascript problem

2007-11-07 Thread 321blastoff

Has anyone tried using behaviour.js with their OpenSocial gadget? I
can't seem to get the rules to apply to the iframe. No javascript
error thrown. I've been able to hook up Prototype and Scriptaculous,
but not Behaviour.


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[opensocial] New User ID?

2007-11-07 Thread alz

I've just connected to my application and found that my user ID has
changed, so all my previous application settings were lost.

Has anyone else found this?

I'm hoping that this is a one-time update thing inside the sandbox,
because if we can't rely on user IDs being a unique identifier, then
what else is there?

-A


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[opensocial] Re: opensocial is not defined

2007-11-07 Thread OpenSocialCoderInSF

I get this opensocial nto defined error from the javascript console
when loading my Gadget in orkut..this code is taken from the
examples..

At:
http://mr6ctaju-a.gmodules.com/ig/ifr?url=http://hosting.gmodules.com/ig/gadgets/file/101929590459766296179/frienddump.xmlparent=http://sandbox.orkut.comlang=en-UScountry=USsynd=orkutmode=canvasmid=8h=200
requesting friends



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 Thanks,
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[opensocial] Re: How to access the data from another page

2007-11-07 Thread MrGamma


 I cant do anything interesting with opensocial till they fix
 the contenttype=url flows.

I'm not so sure anybody is going to be able to take out facebook... er
um... do anything interesting with openSocial... not until OpenSocial
becomes an open source project...

http://www.google.com/trends?q=facebook
http://www.google.com/trends?q=myspace
http://www.google.com/trends?q=linkedin
http://www.google.com/trends?q=orkut

http://www.google.com/trends?q=faceparty

you have to stop javascript from doing some things... You can write
good widgets using strictly the document object module in fact
it's proper... but until the OpenSocial project is scoped out in full
and the amazing functionality that is possible through the client app
is available as a normal HTTP request then what's the point? I'll
admit the deeper I dig around here the more interesting things I
find... but I am not fooled when they promise applications which have
no access to a database of their own... maybe Google is offering
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[opensocial] Re: Activity API

2007-11-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

anybody tried including pictures (ie MediaItems) to the Activity?  I
haven't had any luck with this at all...

On Nov 6, 5:52 pm, Suhail Doshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you add some friends on Orkut you'll notice that there is a feed of
 application installations for sandbox users only at the moment. This
 isn't the same across all networks since not all networks support a
 feed. Ning I hear is in process of adding this soon.

 Suhail Doshi

 On Nov 5, 11:04 pm, Gokul.S.Kartha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi all
 if  a particular user is adds an application,will his friends
  get notification about that?or the application is required to do it
  manually via ctivity api?


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[opensocial] Re: opensocial is not defined

2007-11-07 Thread Lane LiaBraaten (Google)

Hi Everyone,

OpenSocial features in Orkut are currently unavailable for everyone.
The 'opensocial is not defined' is due to a 503 when trying to fetch
the opensocial.js file.

We found the source of the problem and we're working to fix it now.
I'll post an update when I know more.

Sorry for the inconvenience,
Lane

On Nov 7, 11:53 am, Jerome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Same here... getting the same error about opensocial not defined.

 Jerome

 On Nov 7, 12:31 pm, TylerKeen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Im getting the same thing. This wasnt happening last night. This is
  new today.

  On Nov 7, 10:22 am, OpenSocialCoderInSF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I get this opensocial nto defined error from the javascript console
   when loading my Gadget in orkut..this code is taken from the
   examples..

   At:http://mr6ctaju-a.gmodules.com/ig/ifr?url=http://hosting.gmodules.com...
   requesting friends

   On Nov 6, 4:57 pm, Arne Roomann-Kurrik (Google)

   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A problem that was leading to 502 responses has been identified and
fixed.  Can someone who was consistently getting these errors please
try again and post regarding whether you're still seeing it?

Note that this is only with regards for the 502 response, not the no
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[opensocial] Re: Did Orkut update? It broke my application

2007-11-07 Thread Lane LiaBraaten (Google)

Hi Everyone,

OpenSocial features in Orkut are currently unavailable for everyone.
The 'opensocial is not defined' is due to a 503 when trying to fetch
the opensocial.js file.

We found the source of the problem and we're working to fix it now.
I'll post an update when I know more.

Sorry for the inconvenience,
Lane

On Nov 7, 11:17 am, Suhail Doshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 _IG_RegisterOnloadHandler(request);
 29
 30 function request() {
 31 var req = opensocial.newDataRequest();
 32 req.add(req.newFetchPersonRequest(VIEWER), viewer);
 33 req.send(response);
 34 }

 Firebug:
 opensocial is not defined
 request()ifr (line 31)
 ig_0a(builtin_domload, undefined)WeTHhV4cOxM.js (line 48)
 ig__a(domload, undefined)WeTHhV4cOxM.js (line 51)
 [Break on this error] var req = opensocial.newDataRequest();

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[opensocial] Re: can i access my orkut profile using java ?

2007-11-07 Thread bios

when using orkutor xapi instead of ot, the auth would pass.

but, still can't get any information. :)   It is said that the dataAPI
hasn't released yet.

So keep waiting :)   Or try other method. ..like hacking ^_^
joking...

On Nov 7, 6:13 pm, tainic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I want to access my orkut profile information using java.
 Reading the docs I found I need to use this:

People Data API
http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/docs/gdata/people/developers_g...

 I tried the following code to authenticate:

GoogleService myService = new GoogleService(ot, exampleCo-
 exampleApp-1);
myService.setUserCredentials([EMAIL PROTECTED], mypassword);

 but it didn't work.

 I am new to this. How can I do it ? People Data API isn't released
 yet. Should I wait some more time until it is released ? Or am I
 missing something and I can do this in another way ? (From what I've
 read I can access my profile information only by using the JavaScript
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[opensocial] Re: Getting a person's picture

2007-11-07 Thread Luciano Ricardi
try

var thumbnail = person.getField(opensocial.Person.Field.THUMBNAIL_URL);

The thumbnail var is a string tha stores the relative thumbnail address..




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 person.getField ('picture') doesn't work for me.  It keeps returning
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[opensocial] Re: Getting a person's picture

2007-11-07 Thread Paul Lindner

On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 12:29:56PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 person.getField ('picture') doesn't work for me.  It keeps returning
 null for all persons.  Am I doing something wrong?
 
 
Try this instead:

  person.getField(opensocial.Person.Field.THUMBNAIL_URL)

Can you tell us where you found the above example?  The above calling
method is correct.

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[opensocial] Re: Is Orkut caching my remote content?

2007-11-07 Thread hobnobLover

Thanks for that. We had the same problem. It kept on caching the
serverside data that was being returned.

- hobnobLover.

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[opensocial] Re: Did Orkut update? It broke my application

2007-11-07 Thread Suhail Doshi

Thank you, yes the sample apps are broken to.

On Nov 7, 1:26 pm, Lane LiaBraaten (Google)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Everyone,

 OpenSocial features in Orkut are currently unavailable for everyone.
 The 'opensocial is not defined' is due to a 503 when trying to fetch
 the opensocial.js file.

 We found the source of the problem and we're working to fix it now.
 I'll post an update when I know more.

 Sorry for the inconvenience,
 Lane

 On Nov 7, 11:17 am, Suhail Doshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  _IG_RegisterOnloadHandler(request);
  29
  30 function request() {
  31 var req = opensocial.newDataRequest();
  32 req.add(req.newFetchPersonRequest(VIEWER), viewer);
  33 req.send(response);
  34 }

  Firebug:
  opensocial is not defined
  request()ifr (line 31)
  ig_0a(builtin_domload, undefined)WeTHhV4cOxM.js (line 48)
  ig__a(domload, undefined)WeTHhV4cOxM.js (line 51)
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[opensocial] Re: Getting a person's picture

2007-11-07 Thread Paul Lindner
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 08:13:32PM +0530, Shiv N Gautam wrote:
 Paul : The code is given here.
 
 http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/articles/firstgadget.html

That's odd.  I see that the code listed there used the THUMBNAIL_URL
callling conventions, not the getField('picture')

I did a google search for getfield-picture site:code.google.com

and did find a single incorrect reference in the following page:

http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/docs/javascript/index.html


 On Nov 7, 2007 7:21 PM, Paul Lindner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 12:29:56PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   person.getField ('picture') doesn't work for me.  It keeps returning
   null for all persons.  Am I doing something wrong?
  
  
  Try this instead:
 
   person.getField(opensocial.Person.Field.THUMBNAIL_URL)
 
  Can you tell us where you found the above example?  The above calling
  method is correct.
 
 
  
 
 
 

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[opensocial] Re: Getting a person's picture

2007-11-07 Thread Shiv N Gautam
Paul : The code is given here.

http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/articles/firstgadget.html


On Nov 7, 2007 7:21 PM, Paul Lindner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 12:29:56PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  person.getField ('picture') doesn't work for me.  It keeps returning
  null for all persons.  Am I doing something wrong?
 
 
 Try this instead:

  person.getField(opensocial.Person.Field.THUMBNAIL_URL)

 Can you tell us where you found the above example?  The above calling
 method is correct.

 --
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[opensocial] OpenSocial with Ruby on Rails

2007-11-07 Thread matt1986

Olly (a colleague of mine here at New Bamboo) has written up a blog
post about OpenSocial and Ruby on Rails,  some might find it useful
and you can check it out here:
http://blog.nbwd.co.uk/2007/11/7/opensocial-with-ruby-on-rails

He's also written a plugin you can download to make routing easier.

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[opensocial] Re: Ho can I use Adsense within my Opensocial App?

2007-11-07 Thread Jattfx

I don't think containers (orkut,myspace,etc) are going to allow ads on
apps.

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 Adsense asks me for a URL but I am usiong the google editor so I do
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[opensocial] Activies Media Types not working???

2007-11-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

According to the OpenSocial API, there are 3 types of Media Types, but
none of them work in Orkut...

opensocial.Activity.MediaItem.Type.AUDIO
opensocial.Activity.MediaItem.Type.VIDEO
opensocial.Activity.MediaItem.Type.IMAGE

If you check for these values in Javascript, you get a message saying
opensocial.Activity.MediaItem.Type has no properties

Does this mean that Orkut does not support Media in the Activity
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[opensocial] Re: View this page OpenSocial Feature Requests

2007-11-07 Thread cosmok

ability to build a mashup using data from different Portals as
enunciated here: 
http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/11/opensocial_social_mashups.html

On Nov 6, 4:59 am, Arne Roomann-Kurrik (Google)
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 We are working on implementing a tracker for collecting OpenSocial
 feature requests, but until then, please add any features you need
 from the OpenSocial platform to this page.

 Click 
 onhttp://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-api/web/opensocial-feature-...
 - or copy  paste it into your browser's address bar if that doesn't
 work.

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[opensocial] Re: Is Orkut caching my remote content?

2007-11-07 Thread ronman

Thanks, I had forgotten about the refresh interval directive.  It
works.

My plan is to replace caching with a combination of persistent storage
and the activities API to detect when certain things have changed, and
call the remote server only in those cases.  It could be days or weeks
between calls, rather than once every hour or so, but still the data
is available when needed.

Ron


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 serverside data that was being returned.

 - hobnobLover.

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[opensocial] Re: Fetching user preferences defined in the Gadget XML with newFetchPersonAppDataRequest in Orkut

2007-11-07 Thread Carlos Duarte do Nascimento

Excellent question. I am facing just the same problem: as I see, the
OWNER would customize my app (that is, save options to *his*
PersonAppData) and whomever sees the gadget on the OWNER's profile
should see it as configured by the OWNER.

But the lack of the ability of passing OWNER to
newUpdatePersonAppDataRequest simply makes that impossible. I also
tried to cheat (getting the OWNER's ID and passing), and even tried
to improvise with instance appdata - of which I am not entirely sure
of the precise scope, maybe I missed something on the docs.

And what puzzles me more is the dubious language in
http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/docs/javascript/reference/opensocial.DataRequest.html#newUpdatePersonAppDataRequest
:

  String id  - The ID of the person to update; only the special
VIEWER ID is currently allowed.

What does currently mean? That the final version will have other
possibilities? Is it an OpenSocial limitation, or just of Orkut's
implementation?

:-(

On 7 nov, 12:59, Clayton Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I get failure when persisting data with OWNER which is documented in
 the open social documentation for it.
 Since you can't store AppData asOWNERyou will never be able to
 retrieve as anOWNER

 How am I supposed to persist my per use configuration? I'm not doing
 it on my server, no without the
 serverside APIs and authentication.

 Clayton

 On Nov 6, 10:02 pm, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Have you been able to get this working? I am able to make the
  newFetchPersonAppDataRequest request using VIEWER but it always
  fails in the callback when using OWNER with null returned for

  varowner= data.get(owner).getData();

  ???

  On Nov 6, 9:55 am, Clayton Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Am I handling the response object correctly? Does this work in the
   Orkut sandbox?

   In my gadget I have a required UserPref whose value is used when
   rendering the profile view. My issue is that when I view a friends
   profile, _my_ preference is used instead
   of
   When browsing as a VISITOR, I need the
   OWNERs pref so that I can render the data from the right point of
   view.

   The pref is not set via the API it is set via the edit settings
   feature in
   Orkut.

   When I try to fetch the userpref data, there are no keys in that sub-
   response
   object, just the top level key in main response.

   Sample code:

   My user pref is called tweb_uid.

   UserPref name='tweb_uid' display_name='Your Id' datatype='string'
   required='true' /

   Here is my javascript for accessing it:

   script
   function getOwnerData() {
 var req = opensocial.newDataRequest();
 req.add(req.newFetchPersonRequest(OWNER), owner);
 req.add(req.newFetchPersonAppDataRequest(OWNER, tweb_uid),
   owner_data);
 req.send(handleResponse);

   }

   function handleResponse(data) {
 varowner = data.get(owner).getData();
 var owner_data = data.get(owner_data)
 if (owner_data.hadError()) {
   //Handle error using owner_data.getError()...
   alert( Error:  + owner_data.getError);
   return;
 }

 var owner_data1 = owner_data.getData()[owner.getId()];

 alert( ID:  + owner_data1[tweb_uid] );

   }

   document.body.onload =  getOwnerData();

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[opensocial] FavIcons do not appear in Activity Stream

2007-11-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The favicon does not appear in the stream.  That code I am using is:

var streamTitle = 'Sample code for reading and writing activity
stream';
var stream_params = {'url': 'http://samplestream.com', 'favIcon':
'http://mydomain/myimage.gif' };
var stream = opensocial.newStream('', streamTitle, stream_params);

Does anyone know if this functionality works or have some working
sample code?

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[opensocial] Re: Behaviour javascript problem

2007-11-07 Thread TylerKeen

I had a problem like this. If your dynamicly building HTML with js,
Make sure that you run your behavior code after the HTML code has been
rendered on the page.

On Nov 7, 12:12 pm, 321blastoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Has anyone tried using behaviour.js with their OpenSocial gadget? I
 can't seem to get the rules to apply to the iframe. No javascript
 error thrown. I've been able to hook up Prototype and Scriptaculous,
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[opensocial] Re: How to access the data from another page

2007-11-07 Thread toxic

K , if I use an Ajax update instead of a iframe , then I think the
variables should be accessible juss some thoughts...

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[opensocial] Re: where's the help?

2007-11-07 Thread MrGamma

It's the nature of the Google Groups... Welcome to the community...
Google employees will stop by to give authoritative answers every now
and then... but generally... it's a real forum style community... What
exactly are you having problems with? I'm not actually knee deep into
a social app project yet but I've been reading what I can get my hands
on... so far... from a technical perspective... the link which hi5
just posted is very interesting... very straight forward so far...

http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-api/browse_thread/thread/d3e4c3e912c25ddc/3f1f9c4db0970e96#3f1f9c4db0970e96



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[opensocial] Re: Complete Architechture Overview Graphic please.

2007-11-07 Thread Mr-Yellow

Ok thanx for the heads up on Containers Group.

http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-container/

Found some good threads there that may as well be cross linked here
for those just as confused.

Hi5 will release their implementation as opensource when Google
releases SDK. (that's a cause of confusion right there, from the
OpenSocial site it's not immediately apparent that there is or will be
an SDK. It's left for us to imagine having to duplicate most of
googles backend for this with no more guide then examples of the
output and reference.
http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-container/browse_thread/thread/43522fdcccf6cbe2#

Other then that there does seem to be some hands being thrown in the
air over the choice of gData over more open extensions.

Still no idea on if implementing Google Gadget API also means
implementing the interenal javascript libs _IG_Prefs etc that go with
it.

Now implementing Google Gadget API seems to be a pretty blind afair
too. It is just a matter of building an iframe out of the included
HTML content I guess.

-Ben


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[opensocial] Re: How to access the data from another page

2007-11-07 Thread MrGamma

Yes... I believe you could make your own transport as well...

http://developer.apple.com/internet/webcontent/iframe.html

That link above should work in more browsers from what I remember
specifically IE Mac 5.2 ( not that I think it matters any more ) and
then there is the ajax stuff...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMLHttpRequest


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 K , if I use an Ajax update instead of a iframe , then I think the
 variables should be accessible juss some thoughts...

 ;-


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[opensocial] Re: sandox redirecting to www

2007-11-07 Thread MrGamma

Must be something with your account? It works for me... no
redirects... 200 OK

I get redirected to a login page if I am not logged into my account...

clear your cookies maybe? your cache? restart your browser?



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[opensocial] Re: using ajax inside of a gadget

2007-11-07 Thread MrGamma

Actually... I take that back... they have to do something about
security otherwise your going to have social apps potentially de-
indexing webpages from websites for malware reasons... really... I
just don't know... Google places restrictions on websites if they find
bad scripts on them... Some anti-virus programs will stop pages from
loading within your browser as well... I'm guessing if a container api
had code for detecting and blocking malware... everyone would have
access to the api and write different malware since it is Open...






On Nov 8, 1:22 am, MrGamma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Toxic,

 JavaScript ( Ajax ) is executed from within the browser window.
 Technically a container or social network serving the code could not
 actually stop it from executing once it was loaded into the browser
 window.

 Since an Ajax call is executed from within the clients browser nothing
 can stop it...

 A social network which is serving the application could strip snippets
 of code which it deemed a security risk from the app before it reached
 the end users browser but this would be considered hack at best and
 ruin the compatibility of the app itself...there is always the
 possiblity that they will build security modules into the container
 api but I really... really... doubt it...

 Here's a social app... I'm not sure if it's hooked into a proper
 OpenSocial framework but it is advertised as a real SocialGadget...

 http://proxy.ning.com/gadgets/index/gadgetWrapper?xark=16693486867224...

 On Nov 7, 11:03 pm, toxic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Someone should add the Ajax feature in the opensocial request page.
   I am not adding it there due to my limited knowledge about the
  subject.
  I mean , is it an ajax feature or is it something Open Social is
  disallowing


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[opensocial] Re: using ajax inside of a gadget

2007-11-07 Thread MrGamma

Hello Toxic,

JavaScript ( Ajax ) is executed from within the browser window.
Technically a container or social network serving the code could not
actually stop it from executing once it was loaded into the browser
window.

Since an Ajax call is executed from within the clients browser nothing
can stop it...

A social network which is serving the application could strip snippets
of code which it deemed a security risk from the app before it reached
the end users browser but this would be considered hack at best and
ruin the compatibility of the app itself...there is always the
possiblity that they will build security modules into the container
api but I really... really... doubt it...

Here's a social app... I'm not sure if it's hooked into a proper
OpenSocial framework but it is advertised as a real SocialGadget...

http://proxy.ning.com/gadgets/index/gadgetWrapper?xark=166934868672246890_148670244978679186_793122270225563994_956882894592477624_260167947525946759_501629728854833381_337133209347760492_455932372846852554_493246275766041622_767283757759854216_126370930244047427_468850696416530879_925658730339762953_91864654702371797_355476955172521177_963717042125832331_265635461776397459_761277948430893185_590208535424406663_21261096546902394_169626924981935393_325912636199642012_533092983027442574_495499201272232076_848463228319564455_744549244944910427_559898194206904055_433848770035910312_742269693664637297_3985690313027990_488638777385174424_983453243053794905_384108244593334514_223020688389458450_481608467103499207_347143717338848308_985774447602273240_726326019522249939_mode=profileorigin=OpenSocialStuff





On Nov 7, 11:03 pm, toxic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Someone should add the Ajax feature in the opensocial request page.
  I am not adding it there due to my limited knowledge about the
 subject.
 I mean , is it an ajax feature or is it something Open Social is
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[opensocial] hi5 container code and sandbox now available

2007-11-07 Thread Paul Lindner
Hi,

Please see our latest announcement here regarding the hi5 developer
sandbox and the release of our javascript glue code.

  http://www.hi5networks.com/developer/2007/11/hi5-opensocial.html
  http://code.google.com/p/hi5-opensocial/

This is all alpha quality code, but we intend to move quickly to
implement all OpenSocial API calls/features as well as refactoring the
ugly hacks you'll find in the code.

Feedback (good and bad) is certainly welcome.

-- 
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[opensocial] where's the help?

2007-11-07 Thread dickleswonder

Why aren't there answers for all these basic questions? Can't google
afford to get someone on this? Really really annoying.


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[opensocial] Re: where's the help?

2007-11-07 Thread MrGamma

specifically the OAuth authentication stuff looks nice...

On Nov 7, 9:16 pm, MrGamma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's the nature of the Google Groups... Welcome to the community...
 Google employees will stop by to give authoritative answers every now
 and then... but generally... it's a real forum style community... What
 exactly are you having problems with? I'm not actually knee deep into
 a social app project yet but I've been reading what I can get my hands
 on... so far... from a technical perspective... the link which hi5
 just posted is very interesting... very straight forward so far...

 http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-api/browse_thread/thread/d3...


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[opensocial] Re: hi5 container code and sandbox now available

2007-11-07 Thread Andy Triboletti

Cool, it works now.  I missed that sandbox step even though it was listed.

On 11/7/07, Paul Lindner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Andy:

 Can you check the browser location bar and insure that you're on the
 sandbox server?  You can also enter this URL directly:

   http://sandbox.hi5.com/friend/displayAppGallery.do


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  I joined the developer group just now and don't see the Applications
  option on my profile.
 
  I see these links:
 
  Edit My Basic Info
  View As Another
  Skin my Profile
  Customize Profile
  Add A Widget
 
 
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   Hi,
  
   Please see our latest announcement here regarding the hi5 developer
   sandbox and the release of our javascript glue code.
  
 http://www.hi5networks.com/developer/2007/11/hi5-opensocial.html
 http://code.google.com/p/hi5-opensocial/
  
   This is all alpha quality code, but we intend to move quickly to
   implement all OpenSocial API calls/features as well as refactoring the
   ugly hacks you'll find in the code.
  
   Feedback (good and bad) is certainly welcome.
  
  
  
 
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[opensocial] using ajax inside of a gadget

2007-11-07 Thread Chris Chabot
Hey Guys,

Sorry for the possibly newbee question, but are we limited to using  
google's _IG_FetchContent() inside of our open social gadgets, or is  
it possible to use the one's from our own toolkit?

A lot of our code currently uses prototype.js (1.6.0 as of writing),  
and depends on its build json parsing. Not a huge issue of course to  
rewite those parts of the code, but for portability it would be nicer  
if we could keep using our prototype's Ajax.Request instead of  
google's _IG_FetchContent.

Thanks for any info,

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[opensocial] sandox redirecting to www

2007-11-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

When I try to access the sandbox.orkut.com site I get redirected to
the live site (www.orkut.com).
Why is this happening? Is it a problem with my developer account?
I did get an email from google  telling me I had been given access to
the sandbox.
Has anyone had this problem?
Thanks,
Fernando


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[opensocial] All container hosts need to offer an open sandbox

2007-11-07 Thread RickMeasham

(This is on the wishlist page and is here to enable discussion)

Quite frankly I'm sick of signing up to all these services to test my
apps. And there's not that many of them yet. Therefore I'll probably
just stick to developing against one or two of the more popular
container hosts.

Obviously this isn't what the Goog wants. He wants our apps to work
against all containers and to be tested against them.

Therefore I'd like to have the Goog insist that all container hosts
offer a way to test an application (via a URL) without having to log
in and create an account. Just like you can test iGoogle widgets
without having an iGoogle account.

These containers would be expected to be a correct representation of
what an app would look and behave like if I were to add it as a signed-
up user.

Thoughts?

Cheers!
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[opensocial] Re: using ajax inside of a gadget

2007-11-07 Thread Chris Chabot


On Nov 8, 2007, at 3:50 AM, RickMeasham wrote:


 On Nov 8, 1:41 pm, Chris Chabot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry for the possibly newbee question, but are we limited to using
 google's _IG_FetchContent() inside of our open social gadgets, or is
 it possible to use the one's from our own toolkit?

 Google's _IG_Fetch* routines use their proxy for requesting document
 across the domain boundary. Your prototype.js solution will only be
 able to query the local domain (which will be gmodules.com) which
 isn't likely to be what you want.

So that would leave us with 2 options i guess, one would be to use  
something hackedie like:
http://www.mellowmorning.com/2007/11/07/updated-cross-site-ajax-plugin-for-prototype/

and the second would be to prefix al ajax calls with:
'/ig/jsonp?url='+escape('original.url')

not sure if either method is preferable, and the second one sounds  
very platform specific, so i guess rewriting to IG_Fetch i go ;-(

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[opensocial] View this page OpenSocial Feature Requests

2007-11-07 Thread RickMeasham

Added a wish for an open sandbox requirement on all Container Hosts


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[opensocial] Re: using ajax inside of a gadget

2007-11-07 Thread Ignacio Blanco
Hi,

You cannot use your custom ajax call, it won't work, but ...
You can use the old-fashioned way = an iframe :)

This works and you can emulate an ajax call using an iframe.

Regards,

Ignacio.


 You'd then have to parse the result: you don't get back the vanilla
 content but instead get back data that you'd need to do googlemagic on
 to extract the original content

 Cheers!
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[opensocial] Re: Invite Friends to Use App

2007-11-07 Thread twentyafterfour

There does not seem to be a way to do this yet.

On Nov 7, 7:16 pm, reuben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anyone see a way to invite friends to install your app?  I've
 looked through the javascript part of the Activity API, and I couldn't
 see anything that would lend itself to this.  I remember the facebook
 API had something along these lines, but I haven't seen as many
 features to communicate between users with opensocial.  Maybe I'm
 missing something.

 If anyone else has ideas on this, feedback would be appreciated.

 Thanks,

 Reuben


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[opensocial] Re: All container hosts need to offer an open sandbox

2007-11-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm not sure if it'll work properly.
As apposed to the google gadget that aren't user based, the openSocial
apps will need to get the owners details - his friends, etc.
So if you don't have an account on that container, it'll have no data
to give you, you couldn't add friends in order to test friends related
applications and it will not be a good representation of the
application.

But insisting that every container have a sandbox area to check and
adapt the apps., before releasing them to the general public, is a
very good idea.
Also, I think it will be done even if Google wont insist because as a
developer I would prefer to create applications to the containers that
give me a better working environment.

Lee Eden.


On Nov 8, 4:57 am, RickMeasham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 (This is on the wishlist page and is here to enable discussion)

 Quite frankly I'm sick of signing up to all these services to test my
 apps. And there's not that many of them yet. Therefore I'll probably
 just stick to developing against one or two of the more popular
 container hosts.

 Obviously this isn't what the Goog wants. He wants our apps to work
 against all containers and to be tested against them.

 Therefore I'd like to have the Goog insist that all container hosts
 offer a way to test an application (via a URL) without having to log
 in and create an account. Just like you can test iGoogle widgets
 without having an iGoogle account.

 These containers would be expected to be a correct representation of
 what an app would look and behave like if I were to add it as a signed-
 up user.

 Thoughts?

 Cheers!
 Rick Measham


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