Re: [opensuse-factory] Alpha1 installer / step Software selection

2008-01-28 Thread Lukas Ocilka
David Bolt napsal(a):
 On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Stephan Kulow wrote:-
 
 snip
 
 I didn't get a reply till I looked at the dialog you're seeing. So here we
 are - any better suggestions? ;-)
 
 I actually like the look of the new System Type and Software Selection
 screen[0] with the different types in the single list. What would be
 nice is for the package selection to honour choices made on this screen.
 E.g. someone leaving Play games unchecked is likely to expect there to
 be no games, the same with multimedia and graphics. Leaving these
 unchecked shouldn't install packages within those groups, unless they
 are required by other packages. It would also be nice if not enabling
 the Open and modify documents from my mother would remove the Office
 patterns.

Thanks :)

This dialog has been designed to ease the installation for common users.
In my opinion, many users want to only install the base system with
some patterns and then install additional software later.

If you select the base or minimal system type, then the checkbox
does something, e.g., selects or doesn't select the OpenOffice and friends.

Actually, the software selection is pattern-based and the pattern is
called office. Of course, the label has been selected to attract your
attention to get some reports and opinions from the community.

 At present, the new usage boxes don't appear to actually do anything. Or
 deselecting them doesn't at the moment. I guess that there's going to
 have to be some changes to the patterns again to make them actually do
 what the descriptive text says.

There is a bug/old behavior in software proposal that doesn't expect
anyone else to select a pattern/package/etc. to be installed/upgraded...

Have a nice day
Lukas



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[opensuse-factory] libbeagle 0.3.2 is missing in the Factory repo

2008-01-28 Thread Igor Jagec
Hi there!

I've just updated Factory on my test partition and I saw that
libbeagle-0.3.0 is missing, which is probably the reason why I can't
install libbeagle-python-0.3.0-2.i586.rpm. I hope you'll fix that soon
so we can play with the new Beagle!

Cheers!

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Re: [opensuse-factory] libbeagle 0.3.2 is missing in the Factory repo

2008-01-28 Thread JP Rosevear

On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 13:54 +0100, Igor Jagec wrote:
 Hi there!
 
 I've just updated Factory on my test partition and I saw that
 libbeagle-0.3.0 is missing, which is probably the reason why I can't
 install libbeagle-python-0.3.0-2.i586.rpm. I hope you'll fix that soon
 so we can play with the new Beagle!

libbeagle follows the shlib policy now, so libbeagle1 replaces plain
libbeagle.

-JP
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Re: [opensuse-factory] libbeagle 0.3.2 is missing in the Factory repo

2008-01-28 Thread Igor Jagec
On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 09:34 -0500, JP Rosevear wrote:

  I've just updated Factory on my test partition and I saw that
  libbeagle-0.3.0 is missing, which is probably the reason why I can't
  install libbeagle-python-0.3.0-2.i586.rpm. I hope you'll fix that soon
  so we can play with the new Beagle!
 libbeagle follows the shlib policy now, so libbeagle1 replaces plain
 libbeagle.


Ah so... ok, I've just installed it. But it seems that Beagle is not
working on Factory. Here's what I got:

Every 5.0s: beagle-info --status

Debug: Done reading conf
from /home/igor/.beagle/config/Daemon.xml
Debug: Done reading conf
from /etc/beagle/config-files/Daemon.xml
Could not connect to the daemon.

And I'm sending in attachment the debug output I got.

Cheers!

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ beagled --foreground --debug
Always: Starting Beagle Daemon (version 0.3.2)
Always: Running on Mono 1.2.6
Always: Command Line: /usr/lib/beagle/BeagleDaemon.exe --foreground --debug
Debug: Established a connection to the X server
Debug: Reniced process to 7
Debug: Done reading conf from /home/igor/.beagle/config/Daemon.xml
Debug: Done reading conf from /etc/beagle/config-files/Daemon.xml
Debug: Starting messaging server
Debug: Done reading conf from /etc/beagle/config-files/Networking.xml
Debug: Starting QueryDriver
Debug: Found index helper at /usr/lib/beagle/beagled-index-helper
Debug: Found 2 backends in /usr/lib/beagle/Backends/EvolutionBackends.dll
Debug: Found 1 backends in /usr/lib/beagle/Backends/ThunderbirdBackends.dll
Debug: Starting Inotify FSQ file event backend
Debug: Loaded 0 records from 
/home/igor/.beagle/Indexes/FileSystemIndex/FileAttributesStore.db in 0.000s
Debug: Done reading conf from /home/igor/.beagle/config/FilesQueryable.xml
Debug: Done reading conf from /etc/beagle/config-files/FilesQueryable.xml
Debug: Found 8 backends in /usr/lib/beagle/BeagleDaemonLib.dll
Debug: Reading mapping from filters
Debug: Loading system static indexes.
Debug: Initializing static queryable: /var/cache/beagle/indexes/applications
Debug: Done reading conf from 
/var/cache/beagle/indexes/applications/StaticIndex.xml
Debug: Checking for dangling locks...
Debug: Initializing static queryable: /var/cache/beagle/indexes/documentation
Error: Unable to read config from 
/var/cache/beagle/indexes/documentation/StaticIndex.xml
Debug: Found 1 system-wide indexes.
Debug: Loading user-configured static indexes.
Debug: Found 0 user-configured static indexes..
Debug: Waiting 60 seconds before starting queryables
Debug: Starting Scheduler thread
Debug: Starting Inotify threads
Debug: Daemon initialization finished after 1.36s
Debug: Memory usage: VmSize=57.8 MB, VmRSS=18.4 MB,  GC.GetTotalMemory=1228800

Debug: Starting queryables
Debug: Starting backend: 'EvolutionMail'
Debug: Starting backend: 'EvolutionDataServer'
Debug: Starting backend: 'Thunderbird'
Debug: Starting Evolution mail backend
Debug: Starting mail crawl
Debug: Starting backend: 'Files'
Debug: Adding root: /home/igor
Debug: Starting Thunderbird backend
Debug: No Thunderbird data to index in 
/home/igor/.beagle/Indexes/ThunderbirdIndex/ToIndex
Debug: Will index mbox /home/igor/.evolution/mail/local/Sent
Debug: Opening mbox Sent
Debug: Done starting FileSystemQueryable
Debug: Starting backend: 'IndexingService'
Debug: Will index mbox /home/igor/.evolution/mail/local/Drafts
Debug: Will index mbox /home/igor/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox
Debug: Will index mbox /home/igor/.evolution/mail/local/Outbox
Debug: Will index mbox /home/igor/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox.sbd/GNOME Annonuce
Debug: Will index mbox /home/igor/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox.sbd/Packman
Debug: Will index mbox /home/igor/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox.sbd/openSUSE Users
Debug: Will index mbox /home/igor/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox.sbd/openSUSE GNOME
Debug: Will index mbox /home/igor/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox.sbd/openSUSE 
Factory
Debug: Will index mbox /home/igor/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox.sbd/KVARK
Debug: Will index mbox /home/igor/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox.sbd/Facebook
Debug: Will index summary /home/igor/.evolution/mail/imap/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]/folders/INBOX/summary
Debug: Will index summary /home/igor/.evolution/mail/imap/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]@imap.gmail.com/folders/INBOX/summary
Debug: Will index summary /home/igor/.evolution/mail/imap/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]@imap.gmail.com/folders/Trash/summary
Debug: Starting backend: 'Liferea'
Debug: Setting up an initial crawl of the IndexingService directory
Debug: Will index summary /home/igor/.evolution/mail/imap/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]@imap.gmail.com/folders/[Gmail]/subfolders/All Mail/summary
Debug: Will index summary /home/igor/.evolution/mail/imap/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]@imap.gmail.com/folders/[Gmail]/subfolders/Spam/summary
Debug: Mail crawl finished
Debug: Evolution mail driver worker thread done in .20s
Debug: Starting backend: 'NautilusMetadata'
Debug: Watching for creation of Liferea directory
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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux

2008-01-28 Thread Aaron Kulkis

M. Fioretti wrote:

On Mon, January 21, 2008 4:58 am, Aaron Kulkis wrote:


With AutoCad, the better approach is to get them to port
to Linux
Of course, this is difficult to do as individuals, but
small to medium-sized IT departments can.  You tell the
AutoCad rep that the company's strategic direction is
to move from Winows XP to Linux, and that if they want
to continue selling, they have to keep up. IF not,
you're going to be buying SDRC Ideas, or some other
product that fits into your company's plans to NOT
migrate to Vista.

The threat of permanent loss of sales is an excellant
motivator to these sorts of companies.


The problem is that such threats are only plausible if the customer
doesn't have plenty of data locked in a format that only Autocad
can fully understand, or will never receive from partners or potential
customers files in such formats that need to be read or modified. Not
really likely, see:

cfr the Autocad paragraph and links in the second part of:
http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/focus_format_history/



There are industry standard file formats for CAD/CAM, and
AutoCad can export and import to those formats.




Same scenario here:


Once Linux captures a significant share of business desktops


this won't happen until those business users continue to receive
(or are required to send) files in the latest Microsoft Office formats,
whatever that is in any given moment.

In both cases, the most effective strategy, even if it's unglamourous,
to get to the point where you can really do everything you need under
Linux may be to demand laws that force all Public Administrations to
only accept, store or distribute files in non proprietary formats, or
at least formats that are 100% guaranteed to be fully usable under any
operating system, with _more_ than one software program.


That helps.





Once businesses know that to keep selling goods or services to the state
or city Government they MUST deliver contracts, bids, technical drawings,
whatever, in formats that are completely usable with any operating sytems,
the rest will happen by itself.


Very true.  Which is why MS is paranoid about ODF.



And much sooner than if we wait for businesses who couldn't care less
of the license of the software they use, not when changing it would make
their existing files less readable (= interfere with business as usual).

 Marco




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Re: [opensuse] How can I give the password to an ssh session on the command line?

2008-01-28 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Hi,

I want to enter an ssh session without having to type the password (to 
be used by a script). The remote is a router with embedded, and it is 
not possible to create public key pairs because it is not a shell, but 
one with a limited command set.


You probably can't provide a typed password from anything
other than the keyboard itself.

For security reasons, ssh and similar programs are
generally written to read only from /dev/tty.

Is it possible to create a file called rhosts
or hosts.equiv on the router?
on the





I can give the user, like:

ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]

but I haven't found a way in the man to give also the password, as there 
is for instance in ftp.


I think there is something like chat ? but I'v never used it and I'm 
unsure how.



If any one is worried about security, don't: for instance, if you use 
subversion with ssh access (to Novell, for instance) the password is 
stored in clear text in ~/.subversion/auth, and the file is world 
readable! (Was, rather, I changed it). So subversion must be giving the 
password somehow.


You've gotta be kidding.
Someone needs to hit the subversion devs with a clue-bat.


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Re: [opensuse] USB to ATA IDE Adapter, howto boot from it?

2008-01-28 Thread Aaron Kulkis

John Andersen wrote:

On Jan 25, 2008 8:15 AM, Philipp Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I haven't tried with USB, but with any other boot media I've encountered.


Nuff said.



Presumably the OP wanted to boot some other OS off of the USB disk.
You are going on about initrd like you ASSUME he is going to boot
linux off of a USB.

Say he has Windows on the USB device.  Then what?  You expect that
to boot with linux drivers?

GRUB is a boot loader, a mini operating system all to itself.


Not really.

Grub is just a boot loader...although a very fancy bootloader,
in that it actually understands multiple filesystems of several
different operating systems.


It's not even functional enough to be a monitor, let alone
an operating system.

 It does not relay on Linux.  It can boot almost any OS, BUT
 ONLY if it can read the media.


I see no reason to expect Windows or Solaris to run with

 Linux drivers found in the initrd.







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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE To the Rescue!

2008-01-28 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Kai Ponte wrote:
Just thought y'all would get a kick out of this: On my business laptop, I'm 
running Vista with an openSUSE 10.3 VM appliance. 

I downloaded about 21G of files from our corporate network for me to use at 
home. I have a 500G USB drive here that I use to store stuff on. 

Well, I copied the files and went to paste them on the USB drive in Vista.  
After about ten minutes, I noticed the progress bar was still calculating the 
time to copy and had a current estimate of 74 hours.  

I cancelled the process and fired up the VMWare session of openSUSE.  I then 
opened up the host drive via smb and the usb drive. I started copying. 


40 minutes later, the process was complete.


Considering that Vista was pronounced a steaming pile of  on
delivery, this is hardly a a great victory.  In fact, I would
be disappointed if your experience was not the case.




Go openSUSE!





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Re: [opensuse] What is Lchown? (rsnapshot)

2008-01-28 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Hi,

I'm testing rsnapshot, a perl utility to do backups, included with 
opensuse 10.3


It fails, does nothing; very verbose output follows:

nimrodel:~ # rsnapshot daily
require Lchown   
Lchown module not found
Setting locale to POSIX C
echo 3970  /var/run/rsnapshot.pid
rm -f /var/run/rsnapshot.pid
/bin/logger -i -p user.info -t rsnapshot /usr/bin/rsnapshot daily: \
completed successfully
nimrodel:~ #

It claims to success in under a second, without backing up a single 
file! That's not a good thing for a backup program. IMNSHO it is 
Horribly Bad that it claims success with a non existing backup!


What on earth is that Lchown? I can't find it with pin. Could it be 
perl-lchown, which is not included in the distro?


If that is so, I assume it is a packaging bug that the rpm for a 
required package is not included, not even required.




LCHOWN(P)  POSIX Programmer's Manual 
 LCHOWN(P)




NAME
   lchown - change the owner and group of a symbolic link

SYNOPSIS
   #include unistd.h

   int lchown(const char *path, uid_t owner, gid_t group);


DESCRIPTION
   The  lchown() function shall be equivalent to chown(),
   except in the case where the named file is a symbolic
   link. In this case, lchown() shall change the ownership
   of the symbolic link file itself, while chown() changes
   the ownership of the file or directory to which the
   symbolic link refers.

RETURN VALUE
   Upon successful completion, lchown() shall return 0.
   Otherwise, it shall return -1 and set errno to indicate
   an error.

   blah blah blah.


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Re: [opensuse] Duel Screening

2008-01-28 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Jesse Shaver wrote:

I have a Lenovo Thinkpad X61 with a dock. and a Samsung

 SynchMaster 915N 19 inch monitor. the laptop works great,
 but I can't get it to split the desktop across two screens.
 I have gone into SaX2 through YaST and my settings are:


Display 1: Intel 965 MGMonitor VESA [EMAIL PROTECTED] HZ
Display 2: Samsung SSYNCHMASTER 1280X1024

Xinerama Multihead is selected for the Dual Head Mode,

 and the arangement is 2 next to 1.


In this setting it simply clones the built in one (at

 1024x768) onto the larger one.


anyone have this working with a similar box/video card?


I think you should let them fight it out at 15 paces.

Oh..you mean DUAL screens.



thanks in advance,

-Jesse




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Re: [opensuse] How can I give the password to an ssh session on the command line?

2008-01-28 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Jim Cunning wrote:

On Friday 25 January 2008 13:25:25 Ken Schneider wrote:

Hans Witvliet pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 14:12 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:

[...]

I want to enter an ssh session without having to type

 the password (to be used by a script). The remote
 is a router with embedded, and it is not possible to
 create public key pairs because it is not a shell, but

one with a limited command set.



As other posters mentioned 'expect' i won't.
But as you specifically mention ssh i would rather

 advise you to generate a ssh-key-pair and copy the
 public-one over to the other machine into the
 authorizedkeys file.


No asking for pwd's anymore



What part of it is not possible is not understood here?


Don't be so quick to be critical. I took Carlos statement

 to mean it was not possible on the REMOTE system, but it
 is certainly possible on his local one, which is all that
 is required so far as generating keys goes.

He can generate keys on his local system, however, it is
not possible to store either part on the router.
I have a similar type of router... it's a dumb little
machine meant stricty for interactive administration
(in fact, the ONLY way to do so is through a web
browser)



However, it may not be possible to copy his public key

 to the 'remote' router with embedded (linux?). Carlos

didn't say what limited commands were available, or

 whether it was even possible to copy files onto the router.

It seemed pretty obvious to me.

Lots of cheap home routers are braindamaged.


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Re: [opensuse] Swap Partitions with two versions of openSUSE

2008-01-28 Thread David Bolt
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008, Russ Fineman wrote:-

I presently have openSUSE 10.2 installed on sdb1,2,3. I'm wanting to install
openSUSE 11.0 on sdc1,2, 3. When I get into the installer and setup the
partitions it still wants to use the swap partition on sdb1. How can I have
separate swap partitions for each version or can I?

An easy way would be to start up the pre-existing openSUSE 10.2
installation and then use suspend to disc to shut down. This changes the
swap partition so that the kernel, and the installer, no longer
recognises it as a valid swap and will use/create another one.

I discovered this when trying to install the latest 11.0 alpha on a
system that I'd forgotten I'd suspended. Until I rebooted the old
installation and shut down properly, the installation system claimed
that what was the swap partition wasn't a valid one and offered to
delete one of my other partitions to create a new one.

The good news is that sharing swaps won't do any harm, unless you manage
to use suspend to disc in one installation and then reboot into the
other. That would require a deliberate act to get round the present
configuration, which should auto-start the suspended system on boot-up,
and so all bets are off.


Regards,
David Bolt

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Re: [opensuse] Difference between Yast-Group Mgmt. and groupadd

2008-01-28 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* David C. Rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-25-08 15:59]:
	When adding a group with Yast, the group is added with an 'x' for the 
unset password:


ochiltree:x:1002:david

If the group is added with 'groupadd' an '!' is used for the password:

dcr:!:1051:david

Why? What is the difference?


a guess from scanning the man pages (which *are* available), groupadd
defaults to disabling the account.  I said a guess.


! and x are both placeholders in the password field.

Play with gpasswd to find out more.

It appears that /etc/group is based on the old-style
(no /etc/shadow) format of /etc/passwd.

The field holds the encrypted password.  Unlike the
/etc/passwd file, there is now shadow to hold the
actual (encrypted) password strings.

Both x and ! are strings which no password (not
even a 1-character password) can be encrypted
into.  Essentially, this locks the group (you
can't chgrp into a group with a password, because
nothing you type will, after encryption, match
either the  x or ! character).
ther


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Re: [opensuse] beagleindex = bogus i_mode

2008-01-28 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Stephen Berman wrote:

Starting four days ago, the kernel sends bogus i_mode messages after
automatic beagle indexing, like this:

Jan 25 21:15:02 escher su: (to beagleindex) root on none
Jan 25 21:15:02 escher su: (to beagleindex) root on none
Jan 25 21:18:09 escher syslog-ng[2198]: SIGHUP received, restarting syslog-ng
Jan 25 21:18:10 escher syslog-ng[2198]: new configuration initialized
Jan 25 21:18:36 escher kernel: klogd 1.4.1, -- state change -- 
Jan 25 21:19:07 escher su: (to nobody) root on none

Jan 25 21:19:07 escher su: (to nobody) root on none
Jan 25 21:19:11 escher su: (to nobody) root on none
Jan 25 21:19:20 escher syslog-ng[2198]: last message repeated 4 times
Jan 25 21:19:20 escher kernel: init_special_inode: bogus i_mode (33060)
Jan 25 21:19:20 escher kernel: init_special_inode: bogus i_mode (30072)
Jan 25 21:19:20 escher kernel: init_special_inode: bogus i_mode (31460)
Jan 25 21:19:20 escher kernel: init_special_inode: bogus i_mode (30060)
Jan 25 21:19:20 escher kernel: init_special_inode: bogus i_mode (30462)
Jan 25 21:19:20 escher kernel: init_special_inode: bogus i_mode (31462)
Jan 25 21:19:20 escher kernel: init_special_inode: bogus i_mode (57553)
Jan 25 21:19:21 escher kernel: init_special_inode: bogus i_mode (30057)
Jan 25 21:19:21 escher kernel: init_special_inode: bogus i_mode (30170)
Jan 25 21:19:21 escher kernel: init_special_inode: bogus i_mode (72145)
Jan 25 21:19:21 escher kernel: init_special_inode: bogus i_mode (71145)
Jan 25 21:19:21 escher kernel: init_special_inode: bogus i_mode (55440)
Jan 25 21:19:21 escher kernel: init_special_inode: bogus i_mode (35063)

Can anyone tell me what this means, and is it a cause for concern?


What it means is that Beagle has serious problems, something
which several people on this list seem to have a very great
difficulty in understanding.

Delete beagle.  It's junk.


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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-28 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Chuck wrote:

On Jan 25, 2008 1:44 PM, Lincoln Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Simon,





 teach TCP and Unix system administration in 1994, and other than Linux, I'm 
mostly a Solaris body. I have 3 Linux systems at home, two of which dual-boot 
with windows so I can run Photoshop in a color managed environment. I use 
VMWare for some other windows stuff that's less crucial to me. I also have a 
dual processor
 SPARC/Solaris 10 system. I loath and detest bill gates and everything he 
stands for. I regularly point out to

I'm old school too.  But Suns and SPARCs are yesterday dude :)  Linux and 
x86-64 are NOW!



lawl. Dude Sun and Sarc are going no where any time soon... just the
opposite... Sparc IV+  Solaris 10 dance circles around Linux on any
hardware.. You need to spend some time in a true top-tier enterprise
class data center. Linux still has scores or limitations holding it
back in the enterprise realm. There is a reason the stuff is expensive
-- its damn good.


That might have been true 5 years ago

Sun is going to abandon the SPARC soon.

As much as I despise the Intel x86 with its architecture
and annoying instruction set, it IS the future of high-
end computing.

HP-UX was ported from PA-RISC to x86

AIX is being ported from the p5 to x86

Solaris has been ported to x86 -- and the x86 version
is no longer a crufty toy like it used to be -- Sun
has thrown in a well-rounded effort to finally provide
the x86 version with all the drivers as the Sparc version.

The only major Unix that I'm unsure of at this point
is SGI.

Sun doesn't have enough sales to keep the SPARC performance
competitive with HP and IBM machines loaded up with
x86's which have the development overhead spread over
hundreds of millions of units rather than tens of
thousands for SPARC and whatever SGI us using lately.

Intel and AMD won the CPU wars. (and the field can't
be reduced below two, because every competent military
purchasing department on the planet requires that all
electronic components be 2nd-sourced -- so if AMD
fails, then Intel is cut out of that lucrative market
until such time that another company is up and running
as a 2nd source of Intel-like CPUs -- This is why
Intel keeps AMD abreast of their future designs --
if AMD can't duplicate Intel functionality, then Intel
loses).




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Re: [opensuse] Switching to more RAM

2008-01-28 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Chee How Chua wrote:

On Jan 25, 2008 11:33 AM, Benji Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Your AM2 CPU will be a 64bit CPU presumably, so you won't need to
change the kernel, unless you're using 32bit openSUSE.

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Hi,

At which point during the installation do you choose 32-bit or 64-bit?




When you choose to use the 32-bit installation DVD or
the 64-bit installation DVD.



It occurred to me that I've never got to install 64-bit openSUSE.




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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-28 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Joe Sloan wrote:

Chuck wrote:


lawl. Dude Sun and Sarc are going no where any time soon... just the
opposite... Sparc IV+  Solaris 10 dance circles around Linux on any
hardware.. You need to spend some time in a true top-tier enterprise
class data center. Linux still has scores or limitations holding it
back in the enterprise realm. There is a reason the stuff is expensive
-- its damn good.


I work for a fortune 100 company, and we run AIX, HPUX, Solaris, and
SuSE Enterprise Linux in our data centers. I have to smile at the idea
that solaris is somehow more robust than linux. Solaris is great, but so
is linux.

More and more, we're moving apps off of the old school legacy unix
platforms onto HP/Compaq servers running linux. And the results have
been very very good.

We have dozens of busy linux servers with over 500 days uptime - and the
uptime champ, by far for our whole enterprise? Take a guess:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ uptime
  5:32pm  up 1016 days  1:24,  1 user,  load average: 2.47, 2.56, 2.36

An very busy old compaq 2450 running DB2, apache and websphere on SLES 9

Dude, there is *nothing* holding linux back here, other than fear and
ignorance - and now that the SCO lawsuit has all but died, that fear is


It's dead.

You can buy several shares of SCOX (oops, it doesn't have
listing symbol anymore) for a penny.

Maybe they should change the name to Solidified Hydrogen


giving way to a new boldness - and I'm doing everything

 I can to fix the ignorance.


Joe




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Re: [opensuse] Suse 9.2 need upgrade

2008-01-28 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Ronald Wiplinger wrote:

I have installed on a machine still SuSE 9.2

I tried You to upgrade, but gives me just an error not found.

How can I upgrade? To what should I upgrade? 




Save the contents of /home, /opt, and /etc on DVD or something.
If you have a /usr/local, save that too.

Do a fresh installation, subject to the following advice:

For ease of upgrading in the future, put /home and /opt
on their own partitions.  You can make /usr/local a
symbolic link onto the /opt filesystem

On all future upgrades, do a fresh installation, making
sure to NOT format the /home and /opt filesystems.

It's also advisable to put /tmp on its own filesystem (to
minimize the chance of corruption on the root partition).


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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth crashes with signal 6

2008-01-28 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Henk te Sligte wrote:

Hi all,

I am using OpenSuse for about a year now, but I never got Google Earth 
working. Today, I decided to give it another try. I removed everything 
related to Google Earth, logged in as root, and installed Google Earth. 
Installation works fine, no problems at all. But when I tried to run it, 
X server crashed. Also when I logged in as user, it crashes. I couldn't 
get anything useful from /var/log/messages, so I tried to find something 
useful from the internet. The only possible solution I found was at 
linuxquestions.org: 
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/google-earth-crashes-x-598569/ 

TaylorVcl recommends running the following: wget 
http://librarian.launchpad.net/7037027/libGL.so.1 -O libGL.so.1 at the 
directory /opt/googlearth/. This is where Google Earth is installed, so 
everything should be fine. And yes, X server doesn't crash anymore when 
I try to run googlearth. But I get the  message located at the bottom of 
this mail. The log file is attached to this mail. I hope someone has any 
idea to fix this, because I really love this application.


Thank you very much in advance!



Did you restart google earth so that the bug report would
be sent to Google?

And which version of Google Earth are you using?


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Re: [opensuse] Swap Partitions with two versions of openSUSE

2008-01-28 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Russ Fineman wrote:
This is my first time trying to install two versions of openSUSE. I have two 
seperate 320GB SATA drives. Also an unused 120GB ide drive. 4 GB memory, 3.4 
MHZ P4 processor.


I presently have openSUSE 10.2 installed on sdb1,2,3. I'm wanting to install 
openSUSE 11.0 on sdc1,2, 3. When I get into the installer and setup the 
partitions it still wants to use the swap partition on sdb1. How can I have 
separate swap partitions for each version or can I?


If you're only going to run one version at at time (no
virtualization), there's NO NEED for seperate swap partitions.



Google showed a lot on partitions but nothing to help with the installer. A 
link to a how to would be great.



Simply make another partition, and designate it as swap.

But all you're doing is robbing each installation of swap space.





Your help would be appreciated.
Thanks




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Re: [opensuse] Lost rpm db?

2008-01-28 Thread Anders Norrbring

Carlos E. R. skrev:

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The Monday 2008-01-28 at 08:44 +0100, Anders Norrbring wrote:


I have a problem..
One of my machines (10.2) lost its installed rpm database.. So, when I 
do a 'rpm -qa' it shows only 2 packages..


How can I rebuild it accurately?


You should have backups in /var/adm/backup/rpmdb, the Packages file 
gzipped by date. But hurry, it is a daily backup holding only a week, so 
after a week the backup will only have your corrupted copy.


- -- Cheers,
   Carlos E. R.


*sigh*
There are a bunch of gzipped files there, but I guess none of them would 
 be really accurate.
Would there be a way to refresh a very old copy, like unpack the 
biggest one and somehow verify it against the actual packages installed?


Anders.
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Re: [opensuse] What is Lchown? (rsnapshot)

2008-01-28 Thread G T Smith
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Carlos E. R. wrote:
 
 
 The Sunday 2008-01-27 at 19:03 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
 
 * Carlos E. R.  [01-27-08 14:18]:
 What on earth is that Lchown? I can't find it with pin. Could it be
 perl-lchown, which is not included in the distro?
 
 look at:
 
 http://anorien.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/opensuse/guru/packages/Libraries/perl-lchown/
 
 
 I have also seen it in
 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Archiving:/Backup/openSUSE_10.3
 
 but I'm very hesitant and disgusted needing a non standard repo to use a
 standard rpm.
 
 (I'm trying to open a bugzilla, but the server is down)
 
 -- Cheers,
Carlos E. R.
 

Unfortunately the underlying issue is a little worse (at least with
10.2). Try running cpan -O and you will begin to understand the problem.
Many of the SuSE 10.2 Perl module RPMs from packman are badly out of
date. The SuSE Perl stuff is a bit better but still lags (as would be
expected).

Only spotted problem when SuSE servers were down and was checking out
what I thought were issues with a Perl Module to find that my current
version of the module was 2 major releases out of sync.

I think in future I will probably maintain my Perl stuff from CPAN. (The
nuisance is that for compiled Perl modules one needs to install the
devel RPMs relevant to the module).

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Re: [opensuse] Lost rpm db?

2008-01-28 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Monday 2008-01-28 at 08:44 +0100, Anders Norrbring wrote:


I have a problem..
One of my machines (10.2) lost its installed rpm database.. So, when I do a 
'rpm -qa' it shows only 2 packages..


How can I rebuild it accurately?


You should have backups in /var/adm/backup/rpmdb, the Packages file 
gzipped by date. But hurry, it is a daily backup holding only a week, so 
after a week the backup will only have your corrupted copy.


- -- 
Cheers,

   Carlos E. R.
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Re: [opensuse] What is Lchown? (rsnapshot)

2008-01-28 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Sunday 2008-01-27 at 18:25 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:


 nimrodel:~ # rsnapshot daily
 require Lchown   
 Lchown module not found
 Setting locale to POSIX C
 echo 3970  /var/run/rsnapshot.pid
 rm -f /var/run/rsnapshot.pid
 /bin/logger -i -p user.info -t rsnapshot /usr/bin/rsnapshot daily: \
 completed successfully
 nimrodel:~ #




LCHOWN(P)  POSIX Programmer's Manual
 LCHOWN(P)



Yes, but that's the C library function, not the perl module it is looking 
for.



  int lchown(const char *path, uid_t owner, gid_t group);



The worst thing is that the program does a check of internal consistency 
and needed extensions, proclaims that everything is perfect, I go ahead 
attempting a backup, it claims sucess, and nothing was saved :-/


Just imagine this was a cron job. The sysadming has a brief look at the 
logs, sees sucess, and thinks the daily/hourly backup is alright.


But there is nothing saved! Not a hint there is something wrong!


Notice that at the default level of verbosity, there is no mention of 
lchown being missed; the logged output is the single line completed 
successfully.


The above output with the error is a fully verbose output. This is the 
default output:


Jan 28 03:07:08 nimrodel rsnapshot[14933]: /usr/bin/rsnapshot daily: completed 
successfully



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Re: [opensuse] How can I give the password to an ssh session on the command line?

2008-01-28 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Saturday 2008-01-26 at 06:27 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:

...


He can generate keys on his local system, however, it is
not possible to store either part on the router.
I have a similar type of router... it's a dumb little
machine meant stricty for interactive administration
(in fact, the ONLY way to do so is through a web
browser)


Mine is a cute little thing, supplied by my ISP with the adsl connection, 
and made by Broadcom


It has an administration web server, which uses http instead of https for 
the password, and requires javascript on the client, and text only clients 
like links or lynx fail.


But it also has telnet and ssh, and you can enable/disable any of them 
from the local/remote side, or allow from a range of IPs. it also has 
tftp, to save/upload the configuration or to flash the device.


The console commands are not bash, but it's own limited set of commands:

help
logout
save
save_and_exit
save_and_reboot
restore_defaults
reboot
adsl
atm
brctl
dumpcfg
arp
defaultgateway
dhcpserver
dns
igmp
lan
nat
passwd
ppp
proxyarp
remoteaccess
rip
route
statistics
wan
ping
sntp
snmp
build
tftp
version
wlan
log
macfilter
qos

and that's it. It can send the log of my syslog over the network, so I can 
see its firewall working, and when the connection failed; it also has snmp 
that I haven't been able to make much use of it. It does what it is 
supposed to do quite well for its size and price.


One thing the log doesn't have is the external IP, I have to get it by 
command. Now that I know how to execute commands using expect, I could 
use the trick to detect IP change in the log, and then use the command 
interface on a script to get the IP and log it. I wonder if I can fire it 
from syslog-ng.




 to the 'remote' router with embedded (linux?). Carlos
 didn't say what limited commands were available, or
 whether it was even possible to copy files onto the router.


It seemed pretty obvious to me.

Lots of cheap home routers are braindamaged.


We get what we pay for, I guess. Most users will be windows types, and 
they are not used to the shell. But I would appreciate an https interface, 
instead or added to the available http.



Ha! I would like the thing having a plugable flash card, so that I could 
buy my own memory card, program it, and replace its card, and thus play 
around with the features I wanted instead of theirs. The card being 
removable would allow ease recovery in case of a bad flashing.


I must be dreaming, not for that Little money!

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Cheers,

   Carlos E. R.

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Re: [opensuse] Swap Partitions with two versions of openSUSE

2008-01-28 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Russ Fineman wrote:

On Sunday 27 January 2008 12:22:40 pm you wrote:
snip

I presently have openSUSE 10.2 installed on sdb1,2,3. I'm wanting to
install openSUSE 11.0 on sdc1,2, 3. When I get into the installer and
setup the partitions it still wants to use the swap partition on sdb1.
How can I have separate swap partitions for each version or can I?

I think you need to learn how swap is used. If you create a new swap
partition _both_ installations will _use_ _both_ swap partitions. So if the
first swap partition is large enuf, you do not need to create another.

HTH
ne...

/snip

Thanks. I guess I did not understand how swap was used. I will see if I can 
enlarge the first one. If not I may delete it and create a new one that will 
handle both. 


It doesn't matter.  Swap space is swap space.


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[opensuse] Problems with X

2008-01-28 Thread AV
Hi,

after some update this morning (not automated, initialized by myself)
my X do not work... I can fire Sax2 and it give me my old working
configuration. But after I save it and exit Sax I can not startx. When
I do it in root account I get errno 104. When I do it in my account I
get errno 111. Please, could someone point me to solution to that? If
needed I will attach my log files, only please, point me what files do
you need.

Audrius
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Re: [opensuse] Root antivir ?.

2008-01-28 Thread Erik Jakobsen

M9. wrote:


I would not worry about the error message, as long as the app runs...
with the 1.5 version, you got the message,*and* no connecting, or
working app...
(might even the message is still there when i run mercury, the messenger
that could not connect to the server, i would have to look, when i start
from shell, but after it worked, i called the app from Alt+F2..)

And why would you change to a lesser app, just because of an error
message anyway?


Well all nice people. I carry on using Antivir.
Many thanks to you all.
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Re: [opensuse] How can I give the password to an ssh session on the command line?

2008-01-28 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Friday 2008-01-25 at 09:40 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:


 I want to enter an ssh session without having to type the password (to be
 used by a script). The remote is a router with embedded, and it is not
 possible to create public key pairs because it is not a shell, but one
 with a limited command set.


You probably can't provide a typed password from anything
other than the keyboard itself.


I solved it using expect - see other mails.

Ah! It is your mail arriving three days late, as usual. You should get a 
gmail account :-p




For security reasons, ssh and similar programs are
generally written to read only from /dev/tty.


Fortunately, expect can do the trick.



Is it possible to create a file called rhosts
or hosts.equiv on the router?


Nothing at all, no files; or I would create a key pair.



 If any one is worried about security, don't: for instance, if you use
 subversion with ssh access (to Novell, for instance) the password is
 stored in clear text in ~/.subversion/auth, and the file is world
 readable! (Was, rather, I changed it). So subversion must be giving the
 password somehow.


You've gotta be kidding.
Someone needs to hit the subversion devs with a clue-bat.



It is a documented feature of subversion. And they also document how to 
dissable it, on the client. They should be able to dissable it on the 
server side! I mean, the server side telling the clients not to store the 
password.


However, it is very convenient.

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Re: [opensuse] Suse 9.2 need upgrade

2008-01-28 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Sunday 2008-01-27 at 02:18 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:


 How can I upgrade? To what should I upgrade? 


Save the contents of /home, /opt, and /etc on DVD or something.
If you have a /usr/local, save that too.


I save everything :-)



Do a fresh installation, subject to the following advice:

For ease of upgrading in the future, put /home and /opt
on their own partitions.  You can make /usr/local a
symbolic link onto the /opt filesystem


I believe in linux, or in suse, /opt is not required for that purpose, as 
it is only populated with files from rpms. But instead, /usr/local is not.




On all future upgrades, do a fresh installation, making
sure to NOT format the /home and /opt filesystems.

It's also advisable to put /tmp on its own filesystem (to
minimize the chance of corruption on the root partition).


Have you noticed that opensuse 11, and probably most distros, will only 
allow us to use up to 15 partitions? It is a side effect of libata using 
the scsi device name convention.


In the past, even two weeks ago, having a disk divided into several 
partitions, has saved my butt, by limiting unrecoverable disk damage to a 
single partition. But the developers want us to put every thing into a 
few huge partitions. And huge could mean half a terabyte. That's a lot of 
data to have on a single partition.


For testers like me having several bootable systems, this is a blow.

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[opensuse] Problems with cgi-scripts, apache2 on suse 10.3

2008-01-28 Thread Soren Eustis
I have been trying for a week to get apache to recognize a cgi script
and execute it.  The script is part of a distributed package, so I
know it is my server configuration that is the issue.  Basically, I
just get a browser prompt asking me what to do with login.cgi.  I
would greatly appreciate any help with this.  I am running out of
ideas, and I know it is a simple fix.  The folder is in
public_html/cgi-bin/.  Here is my mod_userdir.conf file:



#

# UserDir: The name of the directory that is appended onto a user's home

# directory if a ~user request is received.

#



IfModule mod_userdir.c

# Note that the name of the user directory
(public_html) cannot easily be

# changed here, since it is a compile time setting.
The apache package

# would have to be rebuilt. You could work around by deleting

# /usr/sbin/suexec, but then all scripts from the
directories would be

# executed with the UID of the webserver.

#

# To rebuild apache with another setting you need to change the

# %userdir define in the spec file.



# not every user's directory should be visible:

#UserDir disabled root



# to enable UserDir only for a certain set of users,
use this instead:

#UserDir disabled

#UserDir enabled user1 user2





# the UserDir directive is actually used inside the
virtual hosts, to

# have more control

UserDir public_html



Directory /home/*/public_html

AddHandler cgi-script .cgi

AllowOverride FileInfo AuthConfig Limit Indexes

Options MultiViews Indexes
SymLinksIfOwnerMatch IncludesNoExec





Limit GET POST OPTIONS PROPFIND

Order allow,deny

Allow from all

/Limit



LimitExcept GET POST OPTIONS PROPFIND

Order deny,allow

Deny from all

/LimitExcept



/Directory



/IfModule



  Directory /home/*/public_html/cgi-bin

 AddHandler cgi-script .cgi

#Enable cgi scripts in user directories

Options ExecCGI

/Directory



Thanks in advance.



Soren

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Re: [opensuse] VirtualBox and USB support

2008-01-28 Thread Dave Plater
Chris H wrote:
 On Sunday 27 January 2008 11:37:19 pm Ken Schneider wrote:

   
 USB will not work with the version shipped with openSUSE (the OSE
 version). You will need to download and install the version from here:
 http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
 

 tks...:)
   
You also have to uninstall the suse version and its kernel module
manually as the two versions can exist side by side and cause problems.
You enable the usb devices via filters.
Dave
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Re: [opensuse] What is Lchown? (rsnapshot)

2008-01-28 Thread Dave Howorth
G T Smith wrote:
 I think in future I will probably maintain my Perl stuff from CPAN. (The
 nuisance is that for compiled Perl modules one needs to install the
 devel RPMs relevant to the module).

FWIW, that's what I've done for years and generally without any issues
at all. Very occasionally an underlying compiled library from the Suse
distribution is so old that the current CPAN release can't deal with it,
but usually the CPAN modules will cope with binary libraries that are
considerably older than themselves. To a large extent, these occasional
difficulties are self-inflicted because I run Suse releases way past
their sell-by-date.

Cheers, Dave

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Re: [opensuse] Lost rpm db?

2008-01-28 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Monday 2008-01-28 at 12:23 +0100, Anders Norrbring wrote:


 You should have backups in /var/adm/backup/rpmdb, the Packages file
 gzipped by date. But hurry, it is a daily backup holding only a week, so
 after a week the backup will only have your corrupted copy.


*sigh*
There are a bunch of gzipped files there, but I guess none of them would  be 
really accurate.
Would there be a way to refresh a very old copy, like unpack the biggest 
one and somehow verify it against the actual packages installed?


The best you can do, as far as I know, is to copy and unzip the latest 
correct version in the backup (probably the biggest), on top of the 
existing /var/lib/rpm/Packages file. Even if it is old, it will be 
better than having nothing.


Then run --rebuild, and later YOU, so that it installs again the updates 
you are missing in the database list.


There is no way I know of to regenerate the database by looking at the 
installed files all over the distro. I think it should be possible, by 
comparing files with the list of files in the ARCHIVE list in the dvd, but 
I do not know if anybody has created such an application.


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Re: [opensuse] What is Lchown? (rsnapshot)

2008-01-28 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Monday 2008-01-28 at 11:18 -, G T Smith wrote:



Unfortunately the underlying issue is a little worse (at least with
10.2). Try running cpan -O and you will begin to understand the problem.
Many of the SuSE 10.2 Perl module RPMs from packman are badly out of
date. The SuSE Perl stuff is a bit better but still lags (as would be
expected).


Yes, but for a non perl guy like me, I'd better stick to the rpms.

The worst thing, for me, is that the rsnapshot application does an 
examination of itself without discovering any problem, does the backup 
claiming sucess, and fails to save anything. That's the worst thing, IMO.


I can not trust a backup application that claims success after failing 
completely. :-/


I'll have to search for another one. Perhaps dirvish. Dunno.

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Re: [opensuse] Duel Screening

2008-01-28 Thread Neil
 I think you should let them fight it out at 15 paces.

 Oh..you mean DUAL screens.
LOL :D
Seriously: genious!
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Re: [Kiwi-devel] [opensuse] openSUSE 10.3 and LTSP

2008-01-28 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 16:38 +0100, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

OK. I give up. Where is there documentation on how to add an RPM to
KIWI/LTSP? If I add it to the config.xml, the build fails claiming that
it failed reading the config file. So there is obviously more to it than
that. The only info on LTSP I can find is runtime stuff about what
services/features LTSP should enable. My concern is back when the LTSP
images are being created.

Of course, maybe LTSP is not the best vehicle for getting a minimal
diskless SUSE up and running. Maybe there is a more appropriate KIWI
project for this? I thought I would start with LTSP since it is not so
far off from what I want, and fiddle from there. But my fist fiddling
failed.

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Re: [opensuse] Lost rpm db?

2008-01-28 Thread Anders Norrbring

Carlos E. R. skrev:

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The Monday 2008-01-28 at 12:23 +0100, Anders Norrbring wrote:


 You should have backups in /var/adm/backup/rpmdb, the Packages file
 gzipped by date. But hurry, it is a daily backup holding only a 
week, so

 after a week the backup will only have your corrupted copy.


*sigh*
There are a bunch of gzipped files there, but I guess none of them 
would  be really accurate.
Would there be a way to refresh a very old copy, like unpack the 
biggest one and somehow verify it against the actual packages installed?


The best you can do, as far as I know, is to copy and unzip the latest 
correct version in the backup (probably the biggest), on top of the 
existing /var/lib/rpm/Packages file. Even if it is old, it will be 
better than having nothing.


Then run --rebuild, and later YOU, so that it installs again the updates 
you are missing in the database list.


There is no way I know of to regenerate the database by looking at the 
installed files all over the distro. I think it should be possible, by 
comparing files with the list of files in the ARCHIVE list in the dvd, 
but I do not know if anybody has created such an application.



That means I'm smoked.. Oh well.. I guess I'll find some weird way out 
eventually.. Hehe


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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-28 Thread James Knott
Aaron Kulkis wrote:

 Intel and AMD won the CPU wars. (and the field can't
 be reduced below two, because every competent military
 purchasing department on the planet requires that all
 electronic components be 2nd-sourced -- so if AMD
 fails, then Intel is cut out of that lucrative market
 until such time that another company is up and running
 as a 2nd source of Intel-like CPUs -- This is why
 Intel keeps AMD abreast of their future designs --
 if AMD can't duplicate Intel functionality, then Intel
 loses).

According to an IBM Linux presentation I attended a couple of years ago,
IBM manufactures many CPU's for AMD.  This means that even if AMD fails,
the chips are still being made elsewhere.

Chips these days are designed using standard libraries, which make it
easy for another company to start producing CPU's from a failed company.

IIRC, in the 64 bit world, it's Intel following AMD, not the otherway
around.



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[opensuse] Re: Desktop focus problems in KDE

2008-01-28 Thread Clayton
 I have a dual head setup, with two independent desktops (not one
 single desktop as many people have) so I can run full screen apps on
 each monitor.  Each independent desktop also has 2 virtual desktops
 (that I switch between with Ctrl+F1 or F2 while that desktop has
 focus).

 The dual head was configured with nVidia's tools, and works quite
 well... with the exception of the desktop focus jumping back and forth
 between the two desktops.

 Now to the problem and the hard part is describing it so that
 everyone can understand.  I will be running a full screen app on
 Screen2, and working in it.. for example MythTV.  this Screen and
 Desktop has focus, and the keyboard is being used to navigate the
 MythTV menus.  Without moving the mouse off of Screen2, the focus will
 suddenly jump to Screen1.  I get control back to Screen2 I have to
 click the left mouse button on the desktop of Screen2.  The mouse
 never left Screen2 so focus is not following the mouse cursor over to
 Screen1.  The same can be happen with a full screen app on Screen1.  I
 will be working on Screen1, and switching between a full screen app on
 Desktop1, and Desktop2, when focus will suddenly jump over to Screen2.
  The mouse never left Screen1.


I have been doing some digging on this one... and found this bug:
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56255

So other people have encountered this too

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Re: [opensuse] What is Lchown? (rsnapshot)

2008-01-28 Thread G T Smith
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Carlos E. R. wrote:
 
 
 The Monday 2008-01-28 at 11:18 -, G T Smith wrote:
 
 

snip

 Yes, but for a non perl guy like me, I'd better stick to the rpms.
 

Unfortunately, I am getting the impression that the non-SuSE rpm
variants are not terribly well synchronised (a couple introduced minor
problems which only disappeared when I bit the bullet and did a full
perl module update from CPAN), and the official Perl RPMs are a bit
limited in scope.

I think it might be good idea for CPAN support for Perl, possibly PEAR
support for PHP and whatever the Python community use to be integrated
into YaST. With YaST identifying the appropriate development RPMs and
installing them as required. This would help non-Perl,php,Python people
maintain their installations in these languages and could be of benefit
for those who choose to work with these languages.

AFAIK there is no cpan equivalent for checkinstall, so generating an RPM
from a cpan install is unlikely to be straightforward.



 The worst thing, for me, is that the rsnapshot application does an
 examination of itself without discovering any problem, does the backup
 claiming sucess, and fails to save anything. That's the worst thing, IMO.
 
 I can not trust a backup application that claims success after failing
 completely. :-/

I agree..

It could be a packaging issue, it could also be a mixture of Perl module
versions which does not quite work as expected (and you cannot really
blame the developer for that), or both.

 
 I'll have to search for another one. Perhaps dirvish. Dunno.

Which is why I am working on something initially for my own use.

 
 -- Cheers,
Carlos E. R.
 

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Re: [opensuse] Suse 9.2 need upgrade

2008-01-28 Thread M9.

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Carlos E. R. schreef:
|
|

|
| Have you noticed that opensuse 11, and probably most distros, will only
| allow us to use up to 15 partitions? It is a side effect of libata using
| the scsi device name convention.
|
| In the past, even two weeks ago, having a disk divided into several
| partitions, has saved my butt, by limiting unrecoverable disk damage to
| a single partition. But the developers want us to put every thing into a
| few huge partitions. And huge could mean half a terabyte. That's a lot
| of data to have on a single partition.
|
| For testers like me having several bootable systems, this is a blow.
|
| -- Cheers,
|Carlos E. R.


Ofcourse.
But maybe it is meanth for simple users?
I myself *need* more partitions, to test also.
Now i want to see how the new 11.0 installs, but i have an updated factory.
I do not want to overwrite that, nor the working 10.2, that is around,
and can be used if all others fail, which sometimes happens...
/boot i have seperate, and that keeps all the nessesary files for all
the platforms...(until now, this saved me lots of trouble..)
/home can also be mounted to several platform versions, if one does not
have the space for seperate different /home partitions...(having a
recent back-up, just in case, might sometimes not be such a bad idea
afterall..:)

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Re: [opensuse] Ping SUSE KDE Users - Nokia to buy Trolltech

2008-01-28 Thread Clayton
 http://trolltech.com/company/newsroom/announcements/press.2008-01-28.4605718236

 Interesting news about this. Not sure if openSUSE will be affected at
 all, but I wouldn't be surprised if they change the licensing in some
 way.

Why would they (assuming you mean that they might try to do something
stupid with QT)?  People said the same thing when it was announced
that Sun was buying MySQL, but Sun has no intention of futzing with
the GPL on MySQL... why would Nokia mess with QT?  It's not in their
interest to do so.  Nokia is getting more and more into open source
and cross platform stuff.

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[opensuse] logging internet connection status

2008-01-28 Thread Dave Howorth
I have an ADSL connection to the Internet. Recently there have been some
problems with my phone line, which set me thinking. Is there a standard
way to make a log of my internet status (i.e. connection or no
connection?) Or perhaps it's already logged and I just need to extract it?

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[opensuse] Re: 32bit libs in 64bit openSuse 10.3 (libasound2)

2008-01-28 Thread Marcin Floryan
On 26/01/2008, Marcin Floryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I could try compiling it from source but I am not sure how to force
 32bit arch (and I suppose I would need some more 32bit libs) and will
 it not conflict with the version installed from rpm? I would ideally
 uninstall the 32bit version and install manually from source but I
 seem to have several other packets that depend on it. What's the best
 approach?

Some digging around the archives revealed this info:
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2006-04/msg02168.html

I still wonder what the effect might be of overriding the libs
installed from rpm with a newer version?

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Re: [opensuse] 10.3 installer -- Checking media -- Use -pad option to burn conflicts with webpage

2008-01-28 Thread Steffen Winterfeldt
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Wolfgang Woehl wrote:

 During the 10.3 install from a dvd (that carries the iso from 
 http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/iso/dvd/openSUSE-10.3-GM-DVD-i386.iso
  
 and was md5 checked and burned in k3b) the installer suggests to 
 check media. Which I do and which fails with wrong checksum.

The iso itself already has some padding sectors. No real point in adding more.

Maybe the media _is_ defect? Is your downloaded iso ok (running checkmedia
on it)?


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[opensuse] Ping SUSE KDE Users - Nokia to buy Trolltech

2008-01-28 Thread PerfectReign
http://trolltech.com/company/newsroom/announcements/press.2008-01-28.4605718236

Interesting news about this. Not sure if openSUSE will be affected at
all, but I wouldn't be surprised if they change the licensing in some
way.

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[opensuse] VirtualBox on openSUSE 10.0

2008-01-28 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

Anyone running VirtualBox on openSUSE 10.0? Can one use the
SUSE-supplied RPM?


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[opensuse] Running slow, / full

2008-01-28 Thread Bob
My system has started running very slow, and the root directory is reported as 
having no free space. I've found a file /proc/kcore which is the probable 
culprit, being about 1000MB, with today's date, but even root is not allowed 
to move or delete this file.

My system looks like this:

Device  SizeMount point Free
sda2965.1MB /   0B
sda360.8MB  /boot   46.8MB
sda59.8GB   /usr4.9GB
sda62.0GB   /var1.2GB
sda72.0GB   /opt906.3MB
sda81011.4MB/tmp926.4MB
sda9257.3GB /home   154.1GB

I've been downloading openSUSE 11.0 Alpha1, via ktorrent for the past 24 
hours, but other than that I'm only doing what I always do - read email, 
news, browse the web, play music.
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Re: [opensuse] logging internet connection status

2008-01-28 Thread Dave Howorth
Philippe Andersson wrote:
 Dave Howorth wrote:
 I have an ADSL connection to the Internet. Recently there have been some
 problems with my phone line, which set me thinking. Is there a standard
 way to make a log of my internet status (i.e. connection or no
 connection?) Or perhaps it's already logged and I just need to extract it?
 
 You could try using a network monitoring tool such as Nagios
 (http://www.nagios.org/) or a logging and graphing tool such as
 rrdtool (http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/). Both are provided as RPM
 packages on OpenSuSE.

Thanks, I'll investigate these.

 Having SNMP support on your ADSL modem/router would make the task of
 monitoring it easier.

and G T Smith wrote:
 If you have an ADSL router they usually include a logging facility of
 some sort. In some cases you can configure them to send syslog
 messages to a linux box.

Thanks, I'd prefer a solution that didn't involve the router. A previous
problem proved to be a faulty router (the current problem is the phone
line) so I'd prefer a monitoring technique that doesn't involve trusting
the router. But I'll see what it offers as well.

Cheers, Dave
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Re: [opensuse] VirtualBox on openSUSE 10.0

2008-01-28 Thread Chris H
On Monday 28 January 2008 10:13:55 am Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
 Anyone running VirtualBox on openSUSE 10.0? Can one use the
 SUSE-supplied RPM?

Use the ones from the project site. I has several issues like no usb support 
on the ones released from opensuse.

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Re: [opensuse] Switching to more RAM

2008-01-28 Thread Chee How Chua
On Jan 28, 2008 8:22 PM, James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Aaron Kulkis wrote:
 
  At which point during the installation do you choose 32-bit or 64-bit?
 
 
 
  When you choose to use the 32-bit installation DVD or
  the 64-bit installation DVD.
 
 
 IIRC, the boxed set includes both versions on one DVD, but the download
 ones don't.



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Ah... that's why I don't like to automate things too much. Makes me
forget. I only visit the download page once per release =P

Thanks!

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Re: [opensuse] Switching to more RAM

2008-01-28 Thread James Knott
Aaron Kulkis wrote:

 At which point during the installation do you choose 32-bit or 64-bit?



 When you choose to use the 32-bit installation DVD or
 the 64-bit installation DVD.


IIRC, the boxed set includes both versions on one DVD, but the download
ones don't.



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Re: [opensuse] Problems with cgi-scripts, apache2 on suse 10.3

2008-01-28 Thread David Bolt
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Soren Eustis wrote:-

I have been trying for a week to get apache to recognize a cgi script
and execute it.  The script is part of a distributed package, so I
know it is my server configuration that is the issue.  Basically, I
just get a browser prompt asking me what to do with login.cgi.  I
would greatly appreciate any help with this.  I am running out of
ideas, and I know it is a simple fix.  The folder is in
public_html/cgi-bin/.  Here is my mod_userdir.conf file:

Snip

Have you made sure the script is executable? A quick test on Apache
2.2.4 on 10.3 failed if the script wasn't executable. It returned a 500
error and offered the error page as a download. Setting the script as
executable and re-testing showed it works. Using:

chmod 755 /path/to/script

will probably get it working.


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Re: [opensuse] 10.3 installer -- Checking media -- Use -pad option to burn conflicts with webpage

2008-01-28 Thread Wolfgang Woehl
Montag, 28. Januar 2008 Steffen Winterfeldt:

 The iso itself already has some padding sectors. No real point in
 adding more.

So get rid of the installer's hint after all?
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Re: [opensuse] Ping SUSE KDE Users - Nokia to buy Trolltech

2008-01-28 Thread Kevin Valko
On Monday 28 January 2008 09:12:51 am PerfectReign wrote:
 http://trolltech.com/company/newsroom/announcements/press.2008-01-28.460571
8236

 Interesting news about this. Not sure if openSUSE will be affected at
 all, but I wouldn't be surprised if they change the licensing in some
 way.

They've already said they intend to maintain the dual-license strategy, and 
that they intend to permit Trolltech to operate in much it's current 
structure, rather than be absorbed into the Nokia fold.

They intend to leverage Qt as cross-platform framework across desktop and 
mobile devices, and they've stated that they'll be further investing in KDE 
as well.  Nokia is an organization that does not shy away from investing 
resources in RD, even if they occassionally stumble on their go-to-market 
strategies.

Obviously it's too soon to see how things will shakeout, the deal hasn't even 
gone through yet, but I think it's a good thing for desktop linux in general, 
for KDE specifically, and hence openSUSE.  

Just my two pennies.

Cheers,
KV
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[opensuse] URGENT!! (and don't be angry for the Subject of this mail)

2008-01-28 Thread Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda
I watch this weekend the movie An Inconvenient Thuth and... i'm worried,
i want cry... i feel so bad, really bad, i want help our planet, i
change my lights in home, for some who save energy, i unplugged the
things i'm not useing... and i don't know if u know this, but,
please, enter to www.climatecrisis.net and read this, we have a serious
problem for the warming world... and, the animals are dieing, the polar
zones are bad... well, please, watch the movie and do your part...
please, help to save my planet, your planet, your children planet... we
can't live in mars or the moon, only here, and we are destroyeing the
ecosystem, we can do something, the problem can ve solved, just, i need
your help, the images in the movie The Day After Tomorrow are nothing,
we wan't be in a ice age... or dead because we haven't food of water, we
are old, if u want see like this, but, your children? my children? our
grand children? please, do your part, help us, help me to live, and help
yourself to live... i hope this mail don't make you angry... but... i
don't know what else must be done... and thank you your read me.. we
really need your help, thank you.


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Re: [opensuse] tunapie?

2008-01-28 Thread Philipp Thomas
* Carl Hartung ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20080128 16:27]:

 Anyone here having better success with this package? If so, care to share
 your secrets? ;-)

See the openSUSE build service, there should soon be tunapie packages. This
is IMO stupidly done, as the install script has /usr/local hardcoded and
requires python-wxGTK without any mentioning in INSTALL and without any
check done before installation.

Thanks for the tip BTW, as I only knew of streamripper, which I package for
the distribution.

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[opensuse] tunapie?

2008-01-28 Thread Carl Hartung
Hi All,

I'm running 32-bit x86 openSUSE 10.3.  After fulfilling a couple of recent 
requests for help with installing and configuring winamp on XP shiver! I 
decided to see if I could achieve comparable functionality on my 
box. Tunapie appears to offer what I want but is refusing to run after a 
fairly straightforward 'tarball' style installation. Anyone here having 
better success with this package? If so, care to share your secrets? ;-)

TIA  regards,

Carl
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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-28 Thread Lincoln Rutledge
Lincoln Rutledge
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 Kai Ponte [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/25/08 10:43 PM 
On Friday 25 January 2008 03:42:16 pm Randall R Schulz wrote:
 On Friday 25 January 2008 14:54, Chuck wrote:
  ...
 
   I'm old school too.  But Suns and SPARCs are yesterday dude :)
   Linux and x86-64 are NOW!
 
  lawl. Dude Sun and Sarc are going no where any time soon... just the
  opposite... Sparc IV+  Solaris 10 dance circles around Linux on any
  hardware.. You need to spend some time in a true top-tier enterprise
  class data center. Linux still has scores or limitations holding it
  back in the enterprise realm. There is a reason the stuff is
  expensive -- its damn good.

 How do you explain the Googles and Amazons of this world, whose stock OS
 platform for customer-fronted services is Linux?

 I'm not saying Solaris is on its way out, but one can most certainly run
 very-large-scale enterprise operations on Linux. I tend to doubt
 it's held back.

I had an interesting discussion regarding my data center yeterday. While 
advocating Linux for the data center the topic was brought up that we should 
use a true server such as FreeBSD UNIX or another UNIX variant.

I then reminded my peers that Linux runs several thousands of true servers 
and we should be the ones to talk, since we run Windows Workstations in our 
data center, with the exception of one ancient HP 3000. 

Hehe, we are a FreeBSD shop too.  But I already said what I think about 
FreeBSD's future...  The GPL man, everything gets added to the snowball :)

Linc


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Re: [opensuse] URGENT!! (and don't be angry for the Subject of this mail)

2008-01-28 Thread Tony Alfrey

JB2 wrote:

On Mon 28 January 08 09:42, Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda wrote:


B, baa. Baa, b, baa, b.


  Friggin' useless sheeple bowing to the Goracle.



You may object to the gentleman's posting of his off-topic request on 
the openSuSE list, you may object to his interpretation of the movie or 
the data presented in the movie, but calling him a friggin' useless 
sheepie simply diminishes your credibility and makes you seem petty and 
small.


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[opensuse] Syncing of Moto Q9x

2008-01-28 Thread Chris Arnold
Using 10.3 and have been trying to get my phone, 1 moto q9m, to sync with 
kontact 1.2.4. So far, i have tried kitchensync, opensync and synce (i have 
gotten the furtherest with synce but i am looking for a gui).
Kitchesync:
has a gui and i can add a group but it does not sync.

Opensync:
seems to be the actual component that does the syncing

Synce:
does not appear to have a gui

Surely, i am not the only one trying to get kontact to sync with anything. 
Is there anybody out there that is able to sync their Q with anything. If 
so, please let us know what you are using and how you got it to sync.
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Re: [opensuse] Running slow, / full

2008-01-28 Thread Bob
On Monday 28 January 2008 17:59:44 Bill Anderson wrote:
 Sunny wrote:
  On Jan 28, 2008 10:15 AM, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My system has started running very slow, and the root directory is
  reported as having no free space. I've found a file /proc/kcore which is
  the probable culprit, being about 1000MB, with today's date, but even
  root is not allowed to move or delete this file.
 
  My system looks like this:
 
  Device  SizeMount point Free
  sda2965.1MB /   0B
  sda360.8MB  /boot   46.8MB
  sda59.8GB   /usr4.9GB
  sda62.0GB   /var1.2GB
  sda72.0GB   /opt906.3MB
  sda81011.4MB/tmp926.4MB
  sda9257.3GB /home   154.1GB
 
  /proc is virtual file system, which resides in memory, not on disk.
  Even some files are not actually in memory, but when you read them,
  you actually receive information from the kernel.
  In your case, read here for /proc/kcore:
  http://www.unixguide.net/linux/faq/04.16.shtml
 
  Run the command df to see the how your partitions are filled in.
  Run top to see which process consumes more resources.
 
  Note, that if you run firefox for several days w/o stopping it, it may
  eat a lot of resources.
 
  Cheers

 I prefer the term pseudo filesystem, since /proc does not reside in
 memory. As with any file system, procfs implements the functions defined
 by vfs, the virtual filesystem. The functions implemented actually read
 from, and in some cases write to, kernel data structures. The pathnames
 under /proc define which functions to call. There are a large number of
 such file systems: rootfs, sysfs, relayfs, tmpfs, and the list goes on.
 It works, because every filesystem is an implementation of vfs.

 Bill Anderson
 WW7BA

Hmmm. I can't say I understand much of that :(.

I've been informed off-list that /proc/kcore is simply my running kernel, so 
that's probably not the file I'm looking for.

Can anyone suggest a simple CLI incantation to find all files larger than, 
say, 500MB?

-- 
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openSUSE 10.3, Kernel 2.6.22.13-0.3-default, KDE 3.5.8
Intel Celeron 2.53GB, 2GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 7600GS
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Re: [opensuse] Getting Java to work with browsers

2008-01-28 Thread Thomas Schmidt
Doctor Who schrieb:
 I cannot seem to get Java working with my browsers (Firefox
 primarily).  I have these Java packages installed:
 
 java-1_6_0-sun-1.6.0.u3-21
 java-1_5_0-sun-1.5.0_update13-20
 java-1_6_0-sun-plugin-1.6.0.u3-21
 
 I have both 'Enable Java' and 'Enable Javascript' selected in my
 Firefox (2.0.0.10) options.

You should check whether /etc/alternatives/javaplugin points to the correct 
plugin,
in your case: 
/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0.u3-sun-1.6.0.u3/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so

If not, you can create it with:
update-alternatives --auto javaplugin
update-alternatives --verbose --install /usr/lib/browser-plugins/javaplugin.so 
javaplugin
/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0.u3-sun-1.6.0.u3/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
 1605

Greetings

 
 However, when I visit pages the need Java, I get an error message
 stating that I'm missing the appropriate plug-in.  Choosing to install
 the plug-in from this prompt only gives me a 'manual' option that
 takes me to the Sun site where I can get an appropriate package.
 
 I installled the *.bin file for Linux from the Sun site, but still no
 luck with Java pages.
 
 This is a 32-bit machine.
 
 Any help with this is greatly appreciated.


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Re: [opensuse] tunapie?

2008-01-28 Thread Carl Hartung
On Mon January 28 2008 12:08:15 pm Philipp Thomas wrote:
 Thanks for the tip BTW, as I only knew of streamripper, which I package for
 the distribution.

Thank *you* for your attention and the reply, Philipp! Excellent news! :-)

Carl
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[opensuse] 10.3 installer -- Checking media -- Use -pad option to burn conflicts with webpage

2008-01-28 Thread Wolfgang Woehl
Hi,

During the 10.3 install from a dvd (that carries the iso from 
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/iso/dvd/openSUSE-10.3-GM-DVD-i386.iso
 
and was md5 checked and burned in k3b) the installer suggests to 
check media. Which I do and which fails with wrong checksum.

_Maybe_ it fails because of what the installer's help text on the left 
hand side suggests: To use -pad when burning isos to avoid dangling 
sectors which in turn would mess up md5.

This is not mentioned in neither 5. How to proceed on 
http://software.opensuse.org/ nor in Getting help - Burn DVD Image 
on http://en.opensuse.org/Download_Help#Burn_the_ISO_Image.28s.29

Which are like the front door.

So if the use -pad help from the installer is sound advice then it's 
a tad late for that, right?

I'll file the bug report if someone in the know tells me to.

Wolfgang
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[opensuse] Re: Problems with X

2008-01-28 Thread AV
OK. Back in X after downgraded xgl-git_071026-30.1 to xgl-git_070104-84.1.

Have to figure out what changed in new package. It could be that
problem is not in package but in my XGL configuration. After all it
was quiet hard to get stable working XGL on my IBM ThinkPad X60p with
Mobility FireGL V5250.

Audrius
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Re: [opensuse] URGENT!! (and don't be angry for the Subject of this mail)

2008-01-28 Thread JB2
On Mon 28 January 08 09:42, Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda wrote:

 B, baa. Baa, b, baa, b.

  Friggin' useless sheeple bowing to the Goracle.

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Re: [opensuse] Running slow, / full

2008-01-28 Thread Sunny
On Jan 28, 2008 10:15 AM, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My system has started running very slow, and the root directory is reported as
 having no free space. I've found a file /proc/kcore which is the probable
 culprit, being about 1000MB, with today's date, but even root is not allowed
 to move or delete this file.

 My system looks like this:

 Device  SizeMount point Free
 sda2965.1MB /   0B
 sda360.8MB  /boot   46.8MB
 sda59.8GB   /usr4.9GB
 sda62.0GB   /var1.2GB
 sda72.0GB   /opt906.3MB
 sda81011.4MB/tmp926.4MB
 sda9257.3GB /home   154.1GB


/proc is virtual file system, which resides in memory, not on disk.
Even some files are not actually in memory, but when you read them,
you actually receive information from the kernel.
In your case, read here for /proc/kcore:
http://www.unixguide.net/linux/faq/04.16.shtml

Run the command df to see the how your partitions are filled in.
Run top to see which process consumes more resources.

Note, that if you run firefox for several days w/o stopping it, it may
eat a lot of resources.

Cheers

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Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just
a pile of scrap.
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Re: [opensuse] Keeping my system up to date

2008-01-28 Thread Marcin Floryan
On 28/01/2008, Klaas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   This may qualify for the most stupid question of
   the month, but please point me to the documentation
   for keeping my OpenSuse 10.3 system up to date.
   I know there must be fixes and updates but somehow
   the correct procedure to do this is not clear to
   me.

Yast2 - Online Update
http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Modules/Online_Update

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[opensuse] ftp install

2008-01-28 Thread Carlos

hello
i have install my server from the cds, i have buy the novell license
i have put the server into one remote location.
now i cannot use the cds for installing packages.
there is one method for ising one novell / suse ftp server for installing 
packages?

thanks

Please answer by email 


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Re: [opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?

2008-01-28 Thread James Tremblay
 I have said many times that the .3 releases should stop being innovative 
and  just be a cumulative of the .0 + .1+.2 + fixes and IT should get 
the 2 years of updates alone. This way those wishing to avoid cutting edge 
would  be able to load a Distro with very little gotcha's . This would not 
really be an LTS as much as a this one is absolutely not beta version.
 Novell could actually profit from this in that it's support of the .3 could 
 relate more directly to SP's for SLE.
 but I'm just a country bumkin, what do I know!  LOL

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Re: [opensuse] Running slow, / full

2008-01-28 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Monday 28 January 2008 09:59, Bill Anderson wrote:
 ...

 I prefer the term pseudo filesystem, since /proc does not reside in
 memory. As with any file system, procfs implements the functions 
 defined by vfs, the virtual filesystem. The functions implemented
 actually read from, and in some cases write to, kernel data
 structures. The pathnames under /proc define which functions to call.
 There are a large number of such file systems: rootfs, sysfs,
 relayfs, tmpfs, and the list goes on. It works, because every
 filesystem is an implementation of vfs.

Where they do _not_ reside is on mass storage. It most certainly _does_ 
reside in primary storage (a.k.a. memory, a.k.a. RAM). The fact that 
the information is derived on-demand from the current state of the 
system is only incidental and not fundamentally different from the 
constituents of any more ordinary file system.


 Bill Anderson
 WW7BA


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RE: [opensuse] Running slow, / full

2008-01-28 Thread Nick Zeljkovic
find / -size 50k

you can specify where to find however, find /home ... would find all files 
larger than 500mb in /home.

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-Original Message-
From: Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 7:21 PM
To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Running slow, / full

On Monday 28 January 2008 17:59:44 Bill Anderson wrote:
 Sunny wrote:
  On Jan 28, 2008 10:15 AM, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My system has started running very slow, and the root directory is
  reported as having no free space. I've found a file /proc/kcore which is
  the probable culprit, being about 1000MB, with today's date, but even
  root is not allowed to move or delete this file.
 
  My system looks like this:
 
  Device  SizeMount point Free
  sda2965.1MB /   0B
  sda360.8MB  /boot   46.8MB
  sda59.8GB   /usr4.9GB
  sda62.0GB   /var1.2GB
  sda72.0GB   /opt906.3MB
  sda81011.4MB/tmp926.4MB
  sda9257.3GB /home   154.1GB
 
  /proc is virtual file system, which resides in memory, not on disk.
  Even some files are not actually in memory, but when you read them,
  you actually receive information from the kernel.
  In your case, read here for /proc/kcore:
  http://www.unixguide.net/linux/faq/04.16.shtml
 
  Run the command df to see the how your partitions are filled in.
  Run top to see which process consumes more resources.
 
  Note, that if you run firefox for several days w/o stopping it, it may
  eat a lot of resources.
 
  Cheers

 I prefer the term pseudo filesystem, since /proc does not reside in
 memory. As with any file system, procfs implements the functions defined
 by vfs, the virtual filesystem. The functions implemented actually read
 from, and in some cases write to, kernel data structures. The pathnames
 under /proc define which functions to call. There are a large number of
 such file systems: rootfs, sysfs, relayfs, tmpfs, and the list goes on.
 It works, because every filesystem is an implementation of vfs.

 Bill Anderson
 WW7BA

Hmmm. I can't say I understand much of that :(.

I've been informed off-list that /proc/kcore is simply my running kernel, so 
that's probably not the file I'm looking for.

Can anyone suggest a simple CLI incantation to find all files larger than, 
say, 500MB?

-- 
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Intel Celeron 2.53GB, 2GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 7600GS
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[opensuse] Install and boot from usb disk

2008-01-28 Thread Jan Albrecht
Hi all,

I've installed 10.3 on a USB disc drive as I can't use the internal
disc drive in my company notebook.
Any idea which option I have to use so that I can boot from my USB
drive? Currently it just tells me Missing operrating system.
Thanks
Jan

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Re: [opensuse] tv cards

2008-01-28 Thread Jose
I have a Hauppauge 250, working with mythdora 4.0, works okay, no 
complains hardware wise, I had problems with the setup configuring the 
TV out, I have read their usb models also work okay and there is 
existing drivers for those:



   Hauppauge WinTV PVR USB2\\


Hans Krueger wrote:

My tv card just died had a wonder ati card
looking for a replacement for it any suggestions would be helpful
usb this time maybe ?

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[opensuse] Keeping my system up to date

2008-01-28 Thread Klaas.
Hi,
  This may qualify for the most stupid question of 
  the month, but please point me to the documentation
  for keeping my OpenSuse 10.3 system up to date.
  I know there must be fixes and updates but somehow
  the correct procedure to do this is not clear to
  me.
Thank you,
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Re: [opensuse] Running slow, / full

2008-01-28 Thread Bill Anderson


Sunny wrote:
 On Jan 28, 2008 10:15 AM, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My system has started running very slow, and the root directory is reported 
 as
 having no free space. I've found a file /proc/kcore which is the probable
 culprit, being about 1000MB, with today's date, but even root is not allowed
 to move or delete this file.

 My system looks like this:

 Device  SizeMount point Free
 sda2965.1MB /   0B
 sda360.8MB  /boot   46.8MB
 sda59.8GB   /usr4.9GB
 sda62.0GB   /var1.2GB
 sda72.0GB   /opt906.3MB
 sda81011.4MB/tmp926.4MB
 sda9257.3GB /home   154.1GB

 
 /proc is virtual file system, which resides in memory, not on disk.
 Even some files are not actually in memory, but when you read them,
 you actually receive information from the kernel.
 In your case, read here for /proc/kcore:
 http://www.unixguide.net/linux/faq/04.16.shtml
 
 Run the command df to see the how your partitions are filled in.
 Run top to see which process consumes more resources.
 
 Note, that if you run firefox for several days w/o stopping it, it may
 eat a lot of resources.
 
 Cheers
 
I prefer the term pseudo filesystem, since /proc does not reside in
memory. As with any file system, procfs implements the functions defined
by vfs, the virtual filesystem. The functions implemented actually read
from, and in some cases write to, kernel data structures. The pathnames
under /proc define which functions to call. There are a large number of
such file systems: rootfs, sysfs, relayfs, tmpfs, and the list goes on.
It works, because every filesystem is an implementation of vfs.

Bill Anderson
WW7BA
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Re: [opensuse] Running slow, / full

2008-01-28 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Monday 2008-01-28 at 18:20 -, Bob wrote:



My system looks like this:

Device  SizeMount point Free
sda2965.1MB /   0B
sda360.8MB  /boot   46.8MB
sda59.8GB   /usr4.9GB
sda62.0GB   /var1.2GB
sda72.0GB   /opt906.3MB
sda81011.4MB/tmp926.4MB
sda9257.3GB /home   154.1GB


...


Can anyone suggest a simple CLI incantation to find all files larger than,
say, 500MB?


Considering that / is only 1 GB in size, I don't think that's the problem.

I would use 'mc', mark all directories not included in the list above, and 
then tell it to display directory sizes. Find what they are and what they 
hold.


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[opensuse] Fresh 10.3 -- 1-click install of nvidia driver fails with dependency conflict

2008-01-28 Thread Wolfgang Woehl
Hi,

The 1-click-install http://opensuse-community.org/nvidia.ymp from 
http://en.opensuse.org/NVIDIA fails here with a dependency check 
error (see the screenshot at 
http://picpaste.com/pics/nvidia-dependency_conflict-20080128.1201541942.png)

I merely wanted to ask if this is a known hiccup in repositories at 
the moment. Thanks.

Wolfgang
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[opensuse] closing and an open DNS server

2008-01-28 Thread James D. Parra
Hello,

Running Bind 9.3 on Suse 9.3;

How can I stop the DNS server from doing recursive lookups and also ensure
that is not an open DNS server?

Thank you in advance,

~James 
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Re: [opensuse] URGENT!! (and don't be angry for the Subject of this mail)

2008-01-28 Thread Don Raboud
On Monday 28 January 2008 13:09, Wolfgang Woehl wrote:
 Montag, 28. Januar 2008 James Tremblay:
  ON a positive note , all of us who use linux are helping simply by
  not forcing new computers to have  to made.

 This notion keeps popping up among linux people. To actually verify it
 I suggest you install opensuse 10.3 on a box that's 4 years old. You
 will not be pleased.

I have an AMD K6 (1.4 GHz, 512 MB memory) that is definitely older than 4 
years. It has had SuSE (or whatever they were called at the time) 9.1, 9.3, 
10.1, 10.2 and currently has openSUSE 10.3 on it.

This is a desktop machine (no real server functions) but as a desktop my 
experience has been that each release *seems* faster than the previous one. 
(Most likely this is due to improvements in KDE specifically). 


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Re: [opensuse] tv cards

2008-01-28 Thread Ciro Iriarte
2008/1/28, Jose [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I have a Hauppauge 250, working with mythdora 4.0, works okay, no
 complains hardware wise, I had problems with the setup configuring the
 TV out, I have read their usb models also work okay and there is
 existing drivers for those:


 Hauppauge WinTV PVR USB2\\


 Hans Krueger wrote:
  My tv card just died had a wonder ati card
  looking for a replacement for it any suggestions would be helpful
  usb this time maybe ?
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Hauppauge PVR-500?, it's just like two PVR-150 on a board...

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[opensuse] closing an open DNS server

2008-01-28 Thread James D. Parra
Hello,

Running Bind 9.3 on Suse 9.3;

How can I stop the DNS server from doing recursive lookups and also ensure
that is not an open DNS server?

Thank you in advance,

~James 
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Re: [opensuse] closing an open DNS server

2008-01-28 Thread Per Jessen
James D. Parra wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Running Bind 9.3 on Suse 9.3;
 
 How can I stop the DNS server from doing recursive lookups 

Look up option recursion and set it generally.

 and also  ensure that is not an open DNS server?

Look up allow-query to restrict access.



/Per Jessen, Zürich

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Re: [opensuse] URGENT!! (and don't be angry for the Subject of this mail)

2008-01-28 Thread Mike
On Monday 28 January 2008 21:09, Wolfgang Woehl wrote:
 Montag, 28. Januar 2008 James Tremblay:
  ON a positive note , all of us who use linux are helping simply by
  not forcing new computers to have  to made.

 This notion keeps popping up among linux people. To actually verify
 it I suggest you install opensuse 10.3 on a box that's 4 years old.
 You will not be pleased.

Gee, that's odd. I've got it installed on an old dual AMD machine that I 
bought about 4 years ago, and it runs fine. It runs a lot better than 
the XP that was on it. I also installed it on an old AMD 1000 with less 
than a gig of ram. Runs circles around XP.

 Not that it's a bad thing that linux distributions keep aiming at the
 moving target hardware.

It's a good thing, but backwards compatibility is one of the things I 
like best about linux. When all else fails, I can always get it running 
when the winXX stuff dies.

Mike

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Re: [opensuse] Running slow, / full

2008-01-28 Thread Bill Anderson


Randall R Schulz wrote:
 On Monday 28 January 2008 09:59, Bill Anderson wrote:
 ...

 I prefer the term pseudo filesystem, since /proc does not reside in
 memory. As with any file system, procfs implements the functions 
 defined by vfs, the virtual filesystem. The functions implemented
 actually read from, and in some cases write to, kernel data
 structures. The pathnames under /proc define which functions to call.
 There are a large number of such file systems: rootfs, sysfs,
 relayfs, tmpfs, and the list goes on. It works, because every
 filesystem is an implementation of vfs.
 
 Where they do _not_ reside is on mass storage. It most certainly _does_ 
 reside in primary storage (a.k.a. memory, a.k.a. RAM). The fact that 
 the information is derived on-demand from the current state of the 
 system is only incidental and not fundamentally different from the 
 constituents of any more ordinary file system.
 
 
 Bill Anderson
 WW7BA
 
 
 Randall Schulz
You will not find a structure in the kernel that is an exact reflection
of /proc. As I said, it is only a filesystem in that every filesystem is
an implemention of vfs. The system calls involving any filesystem, flow
through vfs. Furthermore, any module can create an entry in the /proc
filesystem, and provide the routines to handle the open, close, read,
and write requests. The reason for the existence of /proc is to provide
a link between kernel space and user space that does not involving the
creation of a system call to handle every request for information.
Furthermore, you can configure the kernel so that it does not create a
/proc structure. Of course, some of the user space commands will not
work (eg: ps, vmstat, lsof, lsmod, lsusb, lspci, and others), as they
derive their information from /proc. If you have an doubts, you can see
the source fo information by using strace on any command.

Bill Anderson
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Re: [opensuse] URGENT!! (and don't be angry for the Subject of this mail)

2008-01-28 Thread Wolfgang Woehl
Montag, 28. Januar 2008 James Knott:

 I have it installed on my almost 6 year old notebook and it runs
 fine. The notebook has a 1.13 GHz P3.  It certainly runs better
 than XP on thatg same computer.

Ok, good for you. Some time ago a friend of mine wanted me to get her 
opensuse 10.2. I couldn't because her box had 256 mb ram only and the 
installer chocked on that.

Wolfgang
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Re: [opensuse] Raid5/LVM2/XFS alignment

2008-01-28 Thread Greg Freemyer
On Jan 28, 2008 11:25 AM, Ciro Iriarte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, anybody has some notes about tuning md raid5, lvn and xfs?. I'm
 getting 20mb/s with dd and I think it can be improved. I'll add config
 parameters as soon as i get home. I'm using md raid5 on a motherboard
 with nvidia sata controller, 4x500gb samsung sata2 disks and lvm with
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 Regards,
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I have not done any raid 5 perf. testing: 20 mb/sec seems pretty bad,
but not outrageous I suppose.  I can get about 4-5GB/min from new sata
drives.  So about 75 MB/sec from a single raw drive (ie. dd
if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=4k)

You don't say how your invoking dd.  The default bs is only 512 bytes
I think and that is totally inefficient with the linux kernel.

I typically use 4k which maps to what the kernel uses.  ie. dd
if=/dev/zero of=big-file bs=4k count=1000 should give you a simple but
meaningful test..

I think the default stride is 64k per drive, so if your writing 3x 64K
at a time, you may get perfect alignment and miss the overhead of
having to recalculate the checksum all the time.

As another data point, I would bump that up to 30x 64K and see if you
continue to get speed improvements.

So tell us the write speed for
bs=512
bs=4k
bs=192k
bs=1920k

And the read speeds for the same.  ie.  dd if=big-file of=/dev/null bs=4k, etc.

I would expect the write speed to go up with each increase in bs, but
the read speed to be more or less constant.  Then you need to figure
out what sort of real world block sizes your going to be using.  Once
you have a bs, or collection of bs sizes that match your needs, then
you can start tuning your stack.

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Re: [opensuse] URGENT!! (and don't be angry for the Subject of this mail)

2008-01-28 Thread Wolfgang Woehl
Montag, 28. Januar 2008 James Tremblay:
 ON a positive note , all of us who use linux are helping simply by
 not forcing new computers to have  to made.

This notion keeps popping up among linux people. To actually verify it 
I suggest you install opensuse 10.3 on a box that's 4 years old. You 
will not be pleased.

Not that it's a bad thing that linux distributions keep aiming at the 
moving target hardware.

Wolfgang
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Re: [opensuse] 10.3 installer -- Checking media -- Use -pad option to burn conflicts with webpage

2008-01-28 Thread Wolfgang Woehl
Montag, 28. Januar 2008 Steffen Winterfeldt:

 Maybe the media _is_ defect? Is your downloaded iso ok (running
 checkmedia on it)?

Like I said: the iso was md5 checked in k3b and the sums matched.
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Re: [opensuse] URGENT!! (and don't be angry for the Subject of this mail)

2008-01-28 Thread Carl Hartung
On Mon January 28 2008 10:42:03 am Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda wrote:
 I watch this weekend the movie An Inconvenient Thuth and... i'm worried,
 i want cry... i feel so bad, really bad, i want help our planet
snip
 don't know what else must be done... and thank you your read me.. we
 really need your help, thank you.

I know it is heartbreaking, Victor, but it is very important not to succumb to 
despair. There is hope if the majority undertakes tangible work, now, to 
address these critical problems on a local basis. There is strength in 
numbers and awareness and education are key. Please utilize the valuable 
resources, below, and distribute the links widely! Thanks so much for taking 
the initiative and God bless! -- Carl

* http://globalpublicmedia.com/
Note: spend a few days in the multimedia scientific/academic 'Lectures' 
section starting at page 7
http://globalpublicmedia.com/lectures?page=7
and work your way up, chronologically, to the present.

* http://www.realclimate.org/
Climate Science from Climate Scientists
A great resource for debunking special interest misinformation.

* http://www.postcarbon.org/
Reduce Consumption: Produce Locally

* http://www.postcarboncities.net/
Preparing Local Governments for Energy and Climate Uncertainty

* http://www.energyfarms.net/
Reliable Renewable Energy for a Post Carbon World

* http://www.relocalize.net/
Local Communities. Global Connections.

* http://www.oildepletionprotocol.org/
A Plan for a Sensible Energy Future

* http://www.ecoshock.org/
IMHO one of the *best* radio programs dedicated to climate change and peak 
oil; don't overlook the extensive multimedia library and show archive.
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Re: [opensuse] VirtualBox on openSUSE 10.0

2008-01-28 Thread Alexey Eremenko
Well, yes, I worked with VirtualBox on SUSE Linux 10.0.

Use cross-distro installer, and read here:
http://forgeftp.novell.com/lfl/.html/virtualbox.html

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[opensuse] tv cards

2008-01-28 Thread Hans Krueger

My tv card just died had a wonder ati card
looking for a replacement for it any suggestions would be helpful
usb this time maybe ?
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Re: [opensuse] Keeping my system up to date

2008-01-28 Thread Wolfgang Woehl
Montag, 28. Januar 2008 Klaas.:
 Hi,
   This may qualify for the most stupid question of
   the month, but please point me to the documentation
   for keeping my OpenSuse 10.3 system up to date.
   I know there must be fixes and updates but somehow
   the correct procedure to do this is not clear to
   me.

It definitely isn't a stupid question at all as there is no obvious 
piece of info on opensuse.org, the installed help center etc.

It's a shame because it really is a rather neat 2-step process:

Open Yast, go to Software, choose Online update configuration. 
This will add the online update repository to your existing 
repositories.

After that still in Software choose Online update which will check 
for available patches etc. Might be that the first available patch is 
for the online update module itself. Go along with it and in the next 
round you will get to see and review all other available updates. You 
can select/deselect these and again go along with it.

Done.

Something along these lines really needs to go up front somewhere in 
the initial user documentation on opensuse.org and the installed help 
center.

Wolfgang
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Re: [opensuse] Suse 9.2 need upgrade

2008-01-28 Thread Felix Miata
On 2008/01/28 14:01 (GMT+0100) M9. apparently typed:

 Carlos E. R. schreef:

 | Have you noticed that opensuse 11, and probably most distros, will only
 | allow us to use up to 15 partitions? It is a side effect of libata using
 | the scsi device name convention.

 | In the past, even two weeks ago, having a disk divided into several
 | partitions, has saved my butt, by limiting unrecoverable disk damage to
 | a single partition. But the developers want us to put every thing into a

It isn't any fault of SUSE distro developers. The kernel developers are the
perpetrators of the SCSI partition limit in libata.

 | few huge partitions. And huge could mean half a terabyte. That's a lot
 | of data to have on a single partition.

 | For testers like me having several bootable systems, this is a blow.

 Ofcourse.
 But maybe it is meanth for simple users?
 I myself *need* more partitions, to test also.
 Now i want to see how the new 11.0 installs, but i have an updated factory.
 I do not want to overwrite that, nor the working 10.2, that is around,
 and can be used if all others fail, which sometimes happens...
 /boot i have seperate, and that keeps all the nessesary files for all
 the platforms...(until now, this saved me lots of trouble..)

Even in current 11.0 Factory you can still have up to 62 partitions per HD
just as before if you follow the instruction in the 10.3 release notes.
http://www.suse.com/relnotes/i386/openSUSE/10.3/RELEASE-NOTES.en.html#09

Over the past few days I added 10.3 and Factory to a system already having
10.0, 10.1  10.2 and 19 partitions.
http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/tmp/dfsee/gx260L05.txt Of several systems I have
Factory installed on only one is using libata, and I did that only to
experiment with LVM.
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Re: [opensuse] Problem getting printing to work in OpenOffice

2008-01-28 Thread M9.

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Basil Chupin schreef:
| Not too long ago a similar question was asked and an answer given. I
| have searched the Suse database/site and mailing list(s), including the
| OpenOffice site, but cannot find the answer - obviously I am not looking
| in the right places nor using the right search words.
|
| I am using Suse 10.2 (and 10.3 on a test bed) but cannot get OO
| (everything upgraded to the latest versions) to print out a document to
| an IBM/Lexmark 4039 12R Plus laser printer.
|
| If I use Kwrite, to create a document and then print it, the printing is
| successfully done in seconds.
|
| Can anyone, please, either tell me what the fix is to get OO to print
| out a document or point me to the location where I can get the answer?
|
| (I have a couple of documents which need to be printed out rather
| quickly (but not as a matter of life or death) so if someone can
| provide a quick answer I would be most grateful.)
|
| Ciao.
|
|
| Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future.
|
|

Maybe you solved the matter, maybe not.
I ran into same issue just now, and the error log showed me to modify
printer, if upgraded cups, which i did, and it worked immediately after
i did modify the printer:
| I [28/Jan/2008:14:39:28 +0100] [Job 4] Restarted by root.
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:28 +0100] [Job 4] No ticket cache found for
userid=1000
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:28 +0100] [Job 4] Can not get the ticket cache
for monkey9
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] [Job 4] Gutenprint: The version of
Gutenprint software installed (5.0.2) does not match the PPD file (5.0.1).
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] [Job 4] Gutenprint: If you have
upgraded your version of Gutenprint
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] [Job 4] Gutenprint: recently, you must
reinstall all printer queues.
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] [Job 4] Gutenprint: If the previous
installed version of Gutenprint
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] [Job 4] Gutenprint: was 4.3.19 or
higher, you can use the `cups-genppdupdate.5.0'
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] [Job 4] Gutenprint: program to do this;
if the previous installed version
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] [Job 4] Gutenprint: was older, you can
use the Modify Printer command via
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] [Job 4] Gutenprint: the CUPS web
interface: http://localhost:631/printers.
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] [Job 4] Gutenprint: The version of
Gutenprint software installed (5.0.2) does not match the PPD file (5.0.1).
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] PID 3564
(/usr/lib64/cups/filter/rastertogutenprint.5.0) stopped with status 1!
| I [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] Hint: Try setting the LogLevel to
debug to find out more.
| E [28/Jan/2008:14:39:29 +0100] [Job 4] Job stopped due to filter errors.



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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth crashes with signal 6

2008-01-28 Thread Henk te Sligte
2008/1/28, Aaron Kulkis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Henk te Sligte wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I am using OpenSuse for about a year now, but I never got Google Earth
  working. Today, I decided to give it another try. I removed everything
  related to Google Earth, logged in as root, and installed Google Earth.
  Installation works fine, no problems at all. But when I tried to run it,
  X server crashed. Also when I logged in as user, it crashes. I couldn't
  get anything useful from /var/log/messages, so I tried to find something
  useful from the internet. The only possible solution I found was at
  linuxquestions.org:
  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/google-earth-crashes-x-598569/
 
  TaylorVcl recommends running the following: wget
  http://librarian.launchpad.net/7037027/libGL.so.1 -O libGL.so.1 at the
  directory /opt/googlearth/. This is where Google Earth is installed, so
  everything should be fine. And yes, X server doesn't crash anymore when
  I try to run googlearth. But I get the  message located at the bottom of
  this mail. The log file is attached to this mail. I hope someone has any
  idea to fix this, because I really love this application.
 
  Thank you very much in advance!
 

 Did you restart google earth so that the bug report would
 be sent to Google?

 And which version of Google Earth are you using?


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Yes, I restarted it quite often, so Google must have a lot reports from me.
The version I use is the newest, downloaded yesterday, version 4.2 Beta.

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Re: [opensuse] logging internet connection status

2008-01-28 Thread G T Smith
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Dave Howorth wrote:
 Philippe Andersson wrote:
 Dave Howorth wrote:
 and G T Smith wrote:

snip

 If you have an ADSL router they usually include a logging facility of
 some sort. In some cases you can configure them to send syslog
 messages to a linux box.
 
 Thanks, I'd prefer a solution that didn't involve the router. A previous
 problem proved to be a faulty router (the current problem is the phone
 line) so I'd prefer a monitoring technique that doesn't involve trusting
 the router. But I'll see what it offers as well.
 
 Cheers, Dave

But you will not get any ADSL link information which is a good indicator
of ADSL synchronisation and connection problems at the level below
TCP/IP, which is good indicator of line issues (AFAIK NAGIOS deals with
TCP/IP not with ADSL connection issues, all you will know is the
connection is not working not many clues as to why it is not working).

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Re: [opensuse] URGENT!! (and don't be angry for the Subject of this mail)

2008-01-28 Thread Sloan
Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda wrote:
 I watch this weekend the movie An Inconvenient Thuth and... i'm worried,
 i want cry... i feel so bad, really bad, i want help our planet, i
 change my lights in home, for some who save energy, i unplugged the
 things i'm not useing... 

I've started turning off my test servers when I'm not actually testing -

fair enough?

Joe
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