Re: [Origami] Swallow paper airplane?

2018-10-22 Thread Gerardo @neorigami.com
On sunday October 14 I asked if the swallow paper airplane had any other
names and if it really was a traditional model. I received different
answers.

I folded it as a gift Friday, three days ago. I wanted to share the
pictures of my fold with you guys as a way of thanking you for your help

https://scontent.fbaq6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/44569114_2394402257242405_6854201203740377088_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent.fbaq6-1.fna=3e7dd2adc5328359f4b31875a5c96b2b=5C4355C7

https://scontent.fbaq6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/44705179_2394402157242415_823285023791644672_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ht=scontent.fbaq6-1.fna=f6e0ec81ba82865787b54b2079a495a6=5C584A75

The origami Facatativá event was two days ago. One of the activities was to
bring a fold that answered the question "why did you start folding
origami?". This was mine. Folded from fiber tissue paper attached to "papel
silueta" (I don't know how is that paper called in English).

When I was way young, two of my cousins folded it. I was amazed by its
beauty. I believe I wasn't able to fold that paper airplane back then, but
accompanying them while they made it and play with it was an important
moment for me. I finally gave the fold to the organizer of the Facatativá
event: Camilo Torres.


Re: [Origami] Swallow paper airplane?

2018-10-16 Thread David Mitchell
Gerardo @neorigami.com" asks: 

>Hi everyone.I know the following paper airplane from a long time ago:
>http://www.origami-instructions.com/swallow-paper-airplane.html

>1. The site calls it "swallow paper airplane". Do you know the model by any 
>other name? I want to look for other instructions for it and, if it does have 
>a different name, it would be very helpful to know.

>2. Is it a traditional model? If not, who created it?

Versions of this design appear in Murray and Rigney's 'Fun with Paper Folding', 
first published in 1928, and in  Margaret Campbell's' Paper Toy Making', first 
published in 1936.

If anyone knows of any older references I would be delighted to learn of them.

Dave


Re: [Origami] Swallow paper airplane?

2018-10-15 Thread Matthew Green
On Oct 14, 2018, at 3:33 PM, Gerardo @neorigami.com  
wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone.I know the following paper airplane from a long time ago:
> http://www.origami-instructions.com/swallow-paper-airplane.html
> 
> 1. The site calls it "swallow paper airplane". Do you know the model by any
> other name? I want to look for other instructions for it and, if it does
> have a different name, it would be very helpful to know.
> 
> 2. Is it a traditional model? If not, who created it?
> 
> Thank you  in advance *: )*


Hi Gerardo,
To follow up (or build on) what Hans said, I also found variations of this 
model in paper three different airplane books, one from the 60s, one from the 
70s, and one from the 80s, sometimes referencing the name of “swallow” and 
others just calling it an “airplane”. I couldn’t find any reference to the 
model’s ultimate origin.
Matthew



Re: [Origami] Swallow paper airplane?

2018-10-14 Thread Hans Dybkjær
Den 14. okt. 2018 kl. 22.33 skrev Gerardo @neorigami.com 
> 
> 1. The site calls it "swallow paper airplane". Do you know the model by any
> other name? I want to look for other instructions for it and, if it does
> have a different name, it would be very helpful to know.
Similar name in Danish. A slight variation is called “svalehalefly”, swallow 
tail airplane.
> 2. Is it a traditional model? If not, who created it?
It is traditional. I learned 2-3 variations from my father 50 years ago who 
learned those as a child himself, and I have seen several variations shown by 
elderly people when giving open workshops at fairs etc. here in Denmark, often 
old men proudly showing that they also can do paper folding.

This includes both the nose, the cutting off the tail, the wing folding, the 
tail cuts, and the tail insertion. As that is 5 parameters that each can be 
varied more or less systematically, I cannot swear to having seen the exact 
combination displayed in the link, but that does not make it non-traditional.

Two examples are from a 1944 origami book (which my father learned from as a 
child). You can see them in a couple of pictures on my web page here: 
http://papirfoldning.dk/historie/folderier_en.html
under the names of “glider” and “flying swallow”.

In a newer, Danish book, “Air planes” by Erik Rønholt 2012, models 15 - 21 are 
called aerobatic planes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6, drone, classical gliders 1 and 2, 
and wasp. A couple of these also occur in his 1990 book “Paper folding” under 
the names air plane 2 and 3.

The book “Play with paper” by Thea Bank Jensen 1956 has another variation, just 
called “air plane”: same nose, but tail cut off along the water bomb base, and 
without the extra, horizontal folds, and without the tail cuts.

Paper folding books in other languages surely contains many of these and many 
more variations. I see some in e.g. Nick Robinson’s books.

To me, all these are “use your imagination” variations of the same 2-3 basic 
water bomb nose air planes, known for the last century.

Best regards,
  Hans