Re: [otrs] Migrating Tickets to OTRS

2013-04-18 Thread Sune T. Tougaard
Hi there,

We did something similar, by keeping it simple. No need for looking at 
export/import formats, just send them as e-mails, otrs know how to handle that.

- Identify fields and states in your home grown system that you want to be 
available in OTRS.
- Export old tickets in whatever format you like.
- Create a simple script that sends e-mails to OTRS with your identified fields 
*in addition* to the original content.

So, in addition to the original ticket just placed in the body of a new e-mail, 
we also added something like this to the top of the e-mail:

OLD_State: state
OLD_Customer: customer
OLD_Queue: queue

And then we added postmaster filters in OTRS to match on those fields and from 
them set the state, customer, queue and whatever.
So after the e-mails arrive in OTRS, they're sorted correctly and old tickets 
are closed.
We're now able to search and browse the old content, and have the necessary 
fields filled.

After the import, simply delete the postmaster filters again.

-- 
/Sune T.
 
From: otrs-boun...@otrs.org [mailto:otrs-boun...@otrs.org] On Behalf Of Parag 
Bhalerao
Sent: 17. april 2013 18:46
To: s.ditt...@eureca.de; User questions and discussions about OTRS.
Subject: Re: [otrs] Migrating Tickets to OTRS

Thanks Susan,
 
The old system is home grown, so I can export the data in whatever format that 
OTRS accepts. I want to know how the import would work and what the limitations 
are.
 
. In which form can your old system export? - I can export and make it match 
OTRS supported import format
. Which OTRS fields need to be populated in a way that you can reference them 
later? - As many as possible. Definitely time stamps 
. Do you need to keep ticket numbers intact? Yes, if possible
. How's the relationship between old and OTRS ticket numbers? - No 
relationship. If I can import tickets, I can retire old system.
 
GoodWills
 
Parag Bhalerao
 
 
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Dittmar
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [otrs] Migrating Tickets to OTRS
 
Parag Bhalerao schrieb:
 Is there a way to import tickets
 from other system to OTRS? If so, how to go about it?
 
Whether there's a way or not depends strongly on the system from which you want 
to import, and on how detailed the information fed into OTRS should be. In 
which form can your old system export? Which OTRS fields need to be populated 
in a way that you can reference them later? Do you need to keep ticket numbers 
intact, and how's the relationship between old and OTRS ticket numbers?
 
A lot of questions, and it's just the beginning, just what comes to my mind in 
the first seconds after reading your mail. Without more detailed problem 
description I doubt anyone can give you much help.
 
    Susan
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Re: [otrs] Migrating Tickets to OTRS

2013-04-18 Thread Parag Bhalerao
Sounds logical and simple. Will try and let you know. Many thanks...

GoodWills
 
Parag Bhalerao
 

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From: otrs-boun...@otrs.org [mailto:otrs-boun...@otrs.org] On Behalf Of Sune T. 
Tougaard
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 3:52 AM
To: User questions and discussions about OTRS.
Subject: Re: [otrs] Migrating Tickets to OTRS

Hi there,

We did something similar, by keeping it simple. No need for looking at 
export/import formats, just send them as e-mails, otrs know how to handle that.

- Identify fields and states in your home grown system that you want to be 
available in OTRS.
- Export old tickets in whatever format you like.
- Create a simple script that sends e-mails to OTRS with your identified fields 
*in addition* to the original content.

So, in addition to the original ticket just placed in the body of a new e-mail, 
we also added something like this to the top of the e-mail:

OLD_State: state
OLD_Customer: customer
OLD_Queue: queue

And then we added postmaster filters in OTRS to match on those fields and from 
them set the state, customer, queue and whatever.
So after the e-mails arrive in OTRS, they're sorted correctly and old tickets 
are closed.
We're now able to search and browse the old content, and have the necessary 
fields filled.

After the import, simply delete the postmaster filters again.

--
/Sune T.
 
From: otrs-boun...@otrs.org [mailto:otrs-boun...@otrs.org] On Behalf Of Parag 
Bhalerao
Sent: 17. april 2013 18:46
To: s.ditt...@eureca.de; User questions and discussions about OTRS.
Subject: Re: [otrs] Migrating Tickets to OTRS

Thanks Susan,
 
The old system is home grown, so I can export the data in whatever format that 
OTRS accepts. I want to know how the import would work and what the limitations 
are.
 
. In which form can your old system export? - I can export and make it match 
OTRS supported import format . Which OTRS fields need to be populated in a way 
that you can reference them later? - As many as possible. Definitely time 
stamps . Do you need to keep ticket numbers intact? Yes, if possible . How's 
the relationship between old and OTRS ticket numbers? - No relationship. If I 
can import tickets, I can retire old system.
 
GoodWills
 
Parag Bhalerao
 
 
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From: otrs-boun...@otrs.org [mailto:otrs-boun...@otrs.org] On Behalf Of Susan 
Dittmar
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:33 AM
To: User questions and discussions about OTRS.
Subject: Re: [otrs] Migrating Tickets to OTRS
 
Parag Bhalerao schrieb:
 Is there a way to import tickets
 from other system to OTRS? If so, how to go about it?
 
Whether there's a way or not depends strongly on the system from which you want 
to import, and on how detailed the information fed into OTRS should be. In 
which form can your old system export? Which OTRS fields need to be populated 
in a way that you can reference them later? Do you need to keep ticket numbers 
intact, and how's the relationship between old and OTRS ticket numbers?
 
A lot of questions, and it's just the beginning, just what comes to my mind in 
the first seconds after reading your mail. Without more detailed problem 
description I doubt anyone can give you much help.
 
    Susan
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Re: [otrs] Migrating Tickets to OTRS

2013-04-17 Thread Bogdan Iosif
You asked the same question a week ago. I think reposting the same question
is frowned upon.


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Parag Bhalerao 
parag.bhale...@cybertech.com wrote:

  Hello Team,

 ** **

 We have a home grown ticketing system that we were using for past few
 years. We have switched to OTRS now, but for historic knowledge, we will
 like to refer to old tickets as well. Is there a way to import tickets from
 other system to OTRS? If so, how to go about it?

 ** **

 GoodWills

  

 Parag Bhalerao

  

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Re: [otrs] Migrating Tickets to OTRS

2013-04-17 Thread Susan Dittmar

Parag Bhalerao schrieb:
Is there a way to import tickets 
from other system to OTRS? If so, how to go about it?


Whether there's a way or not depends strongly on the system from which you want 
to import, and on how detailed the information fed into OTRS should be. In which 
form can your old system export? Which OTRS fields need to be populated in a way 
that you can reference them later? Do you need to keep ticket numbers intact, 
and how's the relationship between old and OTRS ticket numbers?


A lot of questions, and it's just the beginning, just what comes to my mind in 
the first seconds after reading your mail. Without more detailed problem 
description I doubt anyone can give you much help.


Susan
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Re: [otrs] Migrating Tickets to OTRS

2013-04-17 Thread Parag Bhalerao
Thanks Susan,

The old system is home grown, so I can export the data in whatever format that 
OTRS accepts. I want to know how the import would work and what the limitations 
are.

*   In which form can your old system export? - I can export and make it 
match OTRS supported import format
*   Which OTRS fields need to be populated in a way that you can reference 
them later? - As many as possible. Definitely time stamps
*   Do you need to keep ticket numbers intact? Yes, if possible
*   How's the relationship between old and OTRS ticket numbers? - No 
relationship. If I can import tickets, I can retire old system.

GoodWills

Parag Bhalerao


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From: otrs-boun...@otrs.org [mailto:otrs-boun...@otrs.org] On Behalf Of Susan 
Dittmar
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:33 AM
To: User questions and discussions about OTRS.
Subject: Re: [otrs] Migrating Tickets to OTRS

Parag Bhalerao schrieb:
 Is there a way to import tickets
 from other system to OTRS? If so, how to go about it?

Whether there's a way or not depends strongly on the system from which you want 
to import, and on how detailed the information fed into OTRS should be. In 
which form can your old system export? Which OTRS fields need to be populated 
in a way that you can reference them later? Do you need to keep ticket numbers 
intact, and how's the relationship between old and OTRS ticket numbers?

A lot of questions, and it's just the beginning, just what comes to my mind in 
the first seconds after reading your mail. Without more detailed problem 
description I doubt anyone can give you much help.

Susan
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Re: [otrs] Migrating Tickets to OTRS

2013-04-17 Thread Gerald Young
There is no practical answer to give via this mailing list.

Is it possible? Maybe, but not trivial. You really should look at the
schema of OTRS to determine the answer for your situation.

For instance, you'll need state, queue, user_id, customerUserId,
customerId, ticket number, and subject, and another several fields for the
ticket table
Then you'll need articles and relevant required fields for the body of your
tickets and any followups and make sure they match with the ticket.id of
the ticket you create, plus any timestamps...
You won't get history unless you build it.

the tickets may throw random errors for fields you didn't match.

The customers and agents must be established before import.

In theory, you could get away with a reasonably minimal import, but expect
errors on the old data.


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Parag Bhalerao 
parag.bhale...@cybertech.com wrote:

  Thanks Susan,

 The old system is home grown, so I can export the data in whatever format
 that OTRS accepts. I want to know how the import would work and what the
 limitations are.


- In which form can your old system export? - I can export and make it
match OTRS supported import format
- Which OTRS fields need to be populated in a way that you can
reference them later? - As many as possible. Definitely time stamps
- Do you need to keep ticket numbers intact? Yes, if possible
- How's the relationship between old and OTRS ticket numbers? - No
relationship. If I can import tickets, I can retire old system.


 GoodWills

 Parag Bhalerao


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 From: otrs-boun...@otrs.org 
 [mailto:otrs-boun...@otrs.orgotrs-boun...@otrs.org]
 On Behalf Of Susan Dittmar
 Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:33 AM
 To: User questions and discussions about OTRS.
 Subject: Re: [otrs] Migrating Tickets to OTRS

 Parag Bhalerao schrieb:
  Is there a way to import tickets
  from other system to OTRS? If so, how to go about it?

 Whether there's a way or not depends strongly on the system from which you
 want to import, and on how detailed the information fed into OTRS should
 be. In which form can your old system export? Which OTRS fields need to be
 populated in a way that you can reference them later? Do you need to keep
 ticket numbers intact, and how's the relationship between old and OTRS
 ticket numbers?

 A lot of questions, and it's just the beginning, just what comes to my
 mind in the first seconds after reading your mail. Without more detailed
 problem description I doubt anyone can give you much help.

 Susan
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Re: [otrs] Migrating Tickets to OTRS

2013-04-17 Thread David Boyes

The old system is home grown, so I can export the data in whatever format that 
OTRS accepts. I want to know how the import would work and what the limitations 
are.

Unless you're prepared to do a lot of internal database manipulation, and you 
REALLY understand the OTRS database schema, I'd do the following:


1)  Leave the existing system up, but force it into a read-only mode so 
that new entries cannot be made.

2)  In OTRS, open new tickets to correspond with the old system tickets, 
with the entire new ticket content being a URL pointing to the entry in the old 
system. The easiest way to do that is probably to forge incoming emails to OTRS 
with the old ticket information (write a script to fake up a SMTP message and 
inject it into the incoming message queue in OTRS. Do not include headers that 
would generate outbound emails to the original ticket initiators).

3)  Edit the database entries to have the date information from the old 
tickets (ie, let OTRS create all the new ticket structure entries, then alter 
them to reflect the dates from the old system.)

4)  Start creating all  your new tickets in the new OTRS.

5)  Aggressively expire the information in the old system. You shouldn't 
keep that stuff forever anyway, and if there are specific items, develop a 
strategy for extracting the important problem cause data into OTRS and expire 
the old information.

Otherwise, you're facing writing a custom import tool. I doubt your old entries 
look enough like OTRS entries that any generic import tool will be possible.

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