Re: [Owfs-developers] Turning OWFS website into a Wiki. Was: owfs is DISABLED

2016-07-28 Thread Gregg Levine
Hello!
Question: When was I added to the list of project administrators? And
does this mean I've got writing privileges to the repository? (Not
that I would.)
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On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Paul Alfille  wrote:
> I'm sorta gone. How can I help the transition?
>
> Paul
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 4:18 AM, Jan Kandziora  wrote:
>>
>> Am 26.07.2016 um 08:36 schrieb Martin Patzak (GMX):
>> > who else thinks the following should find it's way onto the owfs
>> > web-site?
>> >
>> Guys, face it: Paul Alfille has GONE. I hope he's okay, doing family
>> business, something like that. But I'm afraid he will not come back and
>> tidy up things in any case.
>>
>> We are a bit disorganised because of this at the moment.
>>
>>
>> If I had to decide, I would take all the content of the web site, throw
>> out all the out-of-date information and feed the rest into a Mediawiki,
>> where you and others can maintain it yourself. Then shutdown the old
>> website.
>>
>>
>> OWFS developers, OWFS users: should we do that?
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Jan
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Re: [Owfs-developers] Turning OWFS website into a Wiki. Was: owfs is DISABLED

2016-07-28 Thread Paul Alfille
I'm sorta gone. How can I help the transition?

Paul

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 4:18 AM, Jan Kandziora  wrote:

> Am 26.07.2016 um 08:36 schrieb Martin Patzak (GMX):
> > who else thinks the following should find it's way onto the owfs
> web-site?
> >
> Guys, face it: Paul Alfille has GONE. I hope he's okay, doing family
> business, something like that. But I'm afraid he will not come back and
> tidy up things in any case.
>
> We are a bit disorganised because of this at the moment.
>
>
> If I had to decide, I would take all the content of the web site, throw
> out all the out-of-date information and feed the rest into a Mediawiki,
> where you and others can maintain it yourself. Then shutdown the old
> website.
>
>
> OWFS developers, OWFS users: should we do that?
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Jan
>
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Re: [Owfs-developers] Turning OWFS website into a Wiki. Was: owfs is DISABLED

2016-07-26 Thread Jan Kandziora
Am 26.07.2016 um 15:35 schrieb Stefano Miccoli:
> 
> BTW, who is responsible for owfs.org? On whois
> https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=owfs.org
>  there is a
> registrant contact that I never saw on this list...
> 
Mike/Michael Kalist  is an owfs user who IIRC offered
Paul to take care of the current website. His last post is from December
2015.

Paul's last post is from June 2015.

Kind regards

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Re: [Owfs-developers] Turning OWFS website into a Wiki. Was: owfs is DISABLED

2016-07-26 Thread Gregg Levine
Hello!
Agreed on all points. However there is (idle) speculation that Source
Forge can do their project sites as Wikis.

Stefan you mention that there's a name there that you've never seen on
this list. I see that shown.

Also we note that (sadly) Paul is gone. When was his last posting?
I've also noted as before that I'm now a project admin, I believe that
that the two are connected.
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On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 9:35 AM, Stefano Miccoli  wrote:
>
> On 26 Jul 2016, at 10:18, Jan Kandziora  wrote:
>
> If I had to decide, I would take all the content of the web site, throw
> out all the out-of-date information and feed the rest into a Mediawiki,
> where you and others can maintain it yourself. Then shutdown the old
> website.
>
>
> MediaWiki is dynamic (PHP+SQL), which means hosting and the need for a
> sysop, responsible for maintenance and security.
>
> Why not a static solution, with a push-to-publish approach? Examples are
> https://readthedocs.org or https://pages.github.com.
> Or more precisely, referring to the technology, and not the hosting service
>
> Sphinx http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/ (which is almost the standard in
> the python world)
> Jekyll https://jekyllrb.com
>
> But there are tons of other static site generators, more or less integrated
> with a version control software system like git.
>
> I think that a wiki makes sense if there are hundreds of contributors. For
> smaller projects, maybe, a static approach is more manageable. Of course,
> for getting started we need someone that builds the necessary scaffolding,
> before one is able to contribute content (via pull requests). (And sorry, I
> have no time to contribute to the project right now.)
>
> BTW, who is responsible for owfs.org? On whois
> https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=owfs.org there is a registrant
> contact that I never saw on this list...
>
>
>
> Stefano
>
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Re: [Owfs-developers] Turning OWFS website into a Wiki. Was: owfs is DISABLED

2016-07-26 Thread Stefano Miccoli

> On 26 Jul 2016, at 10:18, Jan Kandziora  wrote:
> 
> If I had to decide, I would take all the content of the web site, throw
> out all the out-of-date information and feed the rest into a Mediawiki,
> where you and others can maintain it yourself. Then shutdown the old
> website.


MediaWiki is dynamic (PHP+SQL), which means hosting and the need for a sysop, 
responsible for maintenance and security.

Why not a static solution, with a push-to-publish approach? Examples are 
https://readthedocs.org  or https://pages.github.com 
.
Or more precisely, referring to the technology, and not the hosting service
Sphinx http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/ 
 (which is almost the standard in the 
python world)
Jekyll https://jekyllrb.com  
But there are tons of other static site generators, more or less integrated 
with a version control software system like git.

I think that a wiki makes sense if there are hundreds of contributors. For 
smaller projects, maybe, a static approach is more manageable. Of course, for 
getting started we need someone that builds the necessary scaffolding, before 
one is able to contribute content (via pull requests). (And sorry, I have no 
time to contribute to the project right now.)

BTW, who is responsible for owfs.org? On whois 
https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=owfs.org 
 there is a registrant contact 
that I never saw on this list...



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Re: [Owfs-developers] Turning OWFS website into a Wiki. Was: owfs is DISABLED

2016-07-26 Thread Nico Bouthoorn
Setting up a mediawiki is not a problem for me as an system
administrator.  Maybe i can do my part.   I don't how the funds  work
within owfs?  Otherwise hire a virtual machine somewhere and install
mediawiki.

Nico



Johan Ström wrote:
>
> On 26/07/16 10:18, Jan Kandziora wrote:
>> Am 26.07.2016 um 08:36 schrieb Martin Patzak (GMX):
>>> who else thinks the following should find it's way onto the owfs web-site?
>>>
>> Guys, face it: Paul Alfille has GONE. I hope he's okay, doing family
>> business, something like that. But I'm afraid he will not come back and
>> tidy up things in any case.
> I agree.
>> We are a bit disorganised because of this at the moment.
>>
>>
>> If I had to decide, I would take all the content of the web site, throw
>> out all the out-of-date information and feed the rest into a Mediawiki,
>> where you and others can maintain it yourself. Then shutdown the old
>> website.
> Sounds like a good plan. It will take some work though.
> We also need to work out how to make new releases (as requested in
> another thread).
>> OWFS developers, OWFS users: should we do that?
> Yes! Unfortunately, I won't have much time to contribute.
>
> Follow up questions:
> Where would we host/who would pay for that? Does sourceforge have such
> possibilities?
> Move to github?
>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>  Jan
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Re: [Owfs-developers] Turning OWFS website into a Wiki. Was: owfs is DISABLED

2016-07-26 Thread Johan Ström


On 26/07/16 10:18, Jan Kandziora wrote:
> Am 26.07.2016 um 08:36 schrieb Martin Patzak (GMX):
>> who else thinks the following should find it's way onto the owfs web-site?
>>
> Guys, face it: Paul Alfille has GONE. I hope he's okay, doing family
> business, something like that. But I'm afraid he will not come back and
> tidy up things in any case.
I agree.
>
> We are a bit disorganised because of this at the moment.
>
>
> If I had to decide, I would take all the content of the web site, throw
> out all the out-of-date information and feed the rest into a Mediawiki,
> where you and others can maintain it yourself. Then shutdown the old
> website.
Sounds like a good plan. It will take some work though.
We also need to work out how to make new releases (as requested in
another thread).
>
> OWFS developers, OWFS users: should we do that?
Yes! Unfortunately, I won't have much time to contribute.

Follow up questions:
Where would we host/who would pay for that? Does sourceforge have such
possibilities?
Move to github?

>
>
> Kind regards
>
>   Jan
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Re: [Owfs-developers] Turning OWFS website into a Wiki. Was: owfs is DISABLED

2016-07-26 Thread Colin Reese
Yes. I have content to contribute. 

> On Jul 26, 2016, at 1:18 AM, Jan Kandziora  wrote:
> 
>> Am 26.07.2016 um 08:36 schrieb Martin Patzak (GMX):
>> who else thinks the following should find it's way onto the owfs web-site?
> Guys, face it: Paul Alfille has GONE. I hope he's okay, doing family
> business, something like that. But I'm afraid he will not come back and
> tidy up things in any case.
> 
> We are a bit disorganised because of this at the moment.
> 
> 
> If I had to decide, I would take all the content of the web site, throw
> out all the out-of-date information and feed the rest into a Mediawiki,
> where you and others can maintain it yourself. Then shutdown the old
> website.
> 
> 
> OWFS developers, OWFS users: should we do that?
> 
> 
> Kind regards
> 
>Jan
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Re: [Owfs-developers] Turning OWFS website into a Wiki. Was: owfs is DISABLED

2016-07-26 Thread Martin Patzak (GMX)

>
> If I had to decide, I would take all the content of the web site, throw
> out all the out-of-date information and feed the rest into a Mediawiki,
> where you and others can maintain it yourself. Then shutdown the old
> website.
>
>
> OWFS developers, OWFS users: should we do that?

Your idea is as contemporary as it is communal, so I, as an OWFS user, 
do think that this is an excellent suggestion!

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Re: [Owfs-developers] Turning OWFS website into a Wiki. Was: owfs is DISABLED

2016-07-26 Thread Jan Kandziora
Am 26.07.2016 um 08:36 schrieb Martin Patzak (GMX):
> who else thinks the following should find it's way onto the owfs web-site?
>
Guys, face it: Paul Alfille has GONE. I hope he's okay, doing family
business, something like that. But I'm afraid he will not come back and
tidy up things in any case.

We are a bit disorganised because of this at the moment.


If I had to decide, I would take all the content of the web site, throw
out all the out-of-date information and feed the rest into a Mediawiki,
where you and others can maintain it yourself. Then shutdown the old
website.


OWFS developers, OWFS users: should we do that?


Kind regards

Jan

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