RE: [OT] Laptop to replace macbook
Look into the 13.3” Asus Zenbook. I don’t generally like devices that try to hard to clone others but they do a far better Macbook Air than Apple does. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bec Carter Sent: Thursday, 15 May 2014 2:38 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: [OT] Laptop to replace macbook Hi everyone I recently had my 13 2012 macbook pro destroyed. 8GB RAM and 128GB solid state. Spent around $1700 when I bought it. Loved using it as was light, quick and just felt nice in my hands. Now I have to replace it but I also need a new Windows laptop (13 also) for some coding so thought I could get something that would replace both. Can anyone recommend something they've used or are using currently? Same size, weight if possible, ram and solid state is a must. Budget under 2k. Cheers Bec Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
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Give the guy a break. Poor bugger was probably reading his email through Outlook 2013 at anything less than full screen @ 1080p and didn’t notice any of the footer under all the unnecessary metro-fied chrome and crap like non-removable/shrinkable viewing pane header. Which brings me to my question for Satya – is there any commitment left at all to the desktop experience or are they firmly focused spending the foreseeable future defiling their entire consumer product range and crapping big clumsy monotone regions where the non-tablet-obsessed world eats? From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2014 10:43 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: unsubscribe Won't someone please think of the bandwidth! On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 7:32 PM, Preet Sangha preetsan...@gmail.commailto:preetsan...@gmail.com wrote: man I wished I could send in colour. But I grew up in the 70's and we couldn't afford it. On 25 March 2014 18:58, mike smith meski...@gmail.commailto:meski...@gmail.com wrote: Like this. Reply-To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com List-Id: ozDotNet ozdotnet.ozdotnet.comhttp://ozdotnet.ozdotnet.com List-Unsubscribe: http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozdotnet, mailto:ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.com?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/pipermail/ozdotnet List-Post: mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com List-Help: mailto:ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.com?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozdotnet, mailto:ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.com?subject=subscribe On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:38 PM, A Campbell campbel...@gmail.commailto:campbel...@gmail.com wrote: Kind Regards, Andrew Campbell MB: 0409 684 443tel:0409%20684%20443 HM: 08 9478 1848tel:08%209478%201848 EM: campbel...@gmail.commailto:campbel...@gmail.com On 25 March 2014 03:52, Andrew Coates (DPE AUSTRALIA) andrew.coa...@microsoft.commailto:andrew.coa...@microsoft.com wrote: Bose++ I’ve had the over ear type for years (QC2, followed by QC15) and have just bought a pair of the in-ear QC20. I can’t recommend either of these options highly enough. While they’re not cheap, they are awesome. This week I’m cutting code in a room with up to 10 people having interesting conversations about things which would usually distract me. I can’t hear them at all when I’m wearing these, especially if I have music playing as well. Do it now, you won’t regret it. Cheers, Coatsy Andrew Coates, ME, MCPD, MCSD MCTS, Developer Evangelist, Microsoft, 1 Epping Road, NORTH RYDE NSW 2113 Ph: +61 (2) 9870 2719tel:%2B61%20%282%29%209870%202719 ∙ Mob +61 (416) 134 993tel:%2B61%20%28416%29%20134%20993 ∙ Fax: +61 (2) 9870 2400tel:%2B61%20%282%29%209870%202400 ∙ http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat Sent from the new Officehttp://office.com/preview From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of GregAtGregLowDotCom Sent: Sunday, 23 March 2014 4:27 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] Noise cancelling earphones for a quiet programming environment? +1 for the Bose gear. I wear them all the time on long flights and love them but have also used them in other environments and they are great. The noise reduction quality is amazing. +1 also to the idea of drowning out part of the other noise. While they work well without anything even plugged in, clearly you’ll lose the other distractions better if you have sounds of your own. For the same reason, I often will have the TV, or music, etc. on when I’m home alone working just to provide background noise. Otherwise, every little sound seems to be distracting. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775tel:%281300%20775%20775) office | +61 419201410tel:%2B61%20419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913tel:%2B61%203%208676%204913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.comhttp://www.sqldownunder.com/ From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Jorke Odolphi Sent: Monday, 24 March 2014 9:28 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Noise cancelling earphones for a quiet programming environment? http://worldwide.bose.com/axa/en_au/web/quietcomfort_20i/page.html I have a set of these – there is an ‘active’ mode that basically reduces people talking to sounding like a faint version of the “peanuts teacher (I hope that’s not too old a reference for people…) I can vouch it works amazingly well in an open office, when I have them on ppl have to wave at me to get attention – I have a mechanical keyboard and I can’t hear that either – YMMV of course – if you go to the bose store they’re pretty good at
RE: [OT] Noise cancelling earphones for a quiet programming environment?
When 'cancelling' noise fails, drown it out :) Whatever you're listening to, play it louder. If you find music too distracting there's plenty of alternatives. 'Noise' generators can feel a bit weird at first but they do a great job of blocking out ambient noise. Even better if listened to through active noise-cancelling earphones. http://playnoise.com/ is my preferred http://www.noisli.com/ if you prefer more 'natural' sounds, eg coffee shop ambience, crackling fire etc. No specific preference for noise-cancelling products except avoid Sony's earphones like the plague. PS: I normally prefer headphones but if you want them for noise cancelling value I'd recommend in-ear buds every time. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Kirsten Greed Sent: Sunday, 23 March 2014 1:21 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: [OT] Noise cancelling earphones for a quiet programming environment? Hi All So that I can concentrate better, I am trying to filter out the mouse clicking sound from person at the desk next to me. Has anyone any tech recommendations on how to do this? Thanks Kirsten Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: [OT] Password hash cracking
I used to use Password Safe and there's a pretty good .Net implementation of the password store reader on CodeProjecthttp://www.codeproject.com/Articles/20892/Password-Safe-Database-Reader-Library-in-C-for-NET if you want to extend its usefulness yourself. That said, I now use Keepass and have no regrets: http://keepass.info/ It's also open source but has a much more active dev community around it than SPS, the downloads page has ports to virtually any platform you could possibly want, and there's a well-designed plugin system which lets you do things like near transparently replace the Firefox or Chrome saved password functionality with Keepass. I run a portable instance in a TrueCrypt disk saved on Dropbox so I have online sync without the usual concerns. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of ILT (O) Sent: Monday, 24 March 2014 12:23 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] Password hash cracking Grant, re Password Safe (etc) - I was using RoboForm on $9.95 a year and they have just released a version for Windows Phone 8, but I have let it lapse. I would rather back up my pw database to OneDrive than have RoboForm manage it at their site, for some reason. Have you see any comparison of Password Safe with RoboForm? It seems the Password Safe Sourceforge dev project isn't interested in a WP8 version. I would like to use the same application across the different platforms. Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Grant Maw Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:08 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Password hash cracking Or, just use Schneier's Password Safe program and let it generate all your passwords for you. I've been using it for years and I swear by it. I have hundreds of passwords stored in it's files and they're all long and very complex. http://passwordsafe.sourceforge.net/ On 22 March 2014 16:08, Greg Keogh g...@mira.netmailto:g...@mira.net wrote: Folks, in Bruce Schneier's latest newsletterhttps://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-1403.html there is a section at the end where he discusses the vulnerability of passwords. One of the links is to this interesting and frightening article: http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/05/how-crackers-make-minced-meat-out-of-your-passwords/ The hashes in this cracking test were made with plain old MD5, but even ignoring that, it's a sobering reminder of the progress in guessing and cracking hashed passwords. I was surprised to learn that salting the hashes doesn't offer much defence. I was amazed that they were using GPUs for hashing and a graph shows that they're faster than CPUs ... is that possible? After this I think the lessons are: * Schneier suggests you make passwords out of pieces of words and sentences to avoid predictable formats. * Use a more recent and computationally intensive hasher. * Don't let anyone steal your hashes. * Don't store the whole hash (I learned in Russinovich's book that msv1_0http://dll.paretologic.com/detail.php/msv1_0.dll only stores half a user's hash in the registry). Greg K Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: [OT] Password hash cracking
What I do with TrueCrypt+Dropbox+Keepass isn't intended for convenience. If you want automatic backup: Backup Synchronization IO Another Backup Pluginhttp://keepass.info/plugins.html#abp [http://keepass.info/images/plg1xyes.png] Automatically backs up databases. DB_Backuphttp://keepass.info/plugins.html#dbbackup [http://keepass.info/images/plg1xyes.png] Creates backups of databases. DataBaseBackuphttp://keepass.info/plugins.html#databasebackup [http://keepass.info/images/plg2xint.png] Creates backups of databases. IOProtocolExthttp://keepass.info/plugins.html#ioprotocolext [http://keepass.info/images/plg2xint.png] Adds support for SCP, SFTP and FTPS. KeeCloudhttp://keepass.info/plugins.html#keecloud [http://keepass.info/images/plg2xint.png] Adds support for online storage providers. KeePassSynchttp://keepass.info/plugins.html#keepasssync [http://keepass.info/images/plg2xint.png] Synchronize using online storage providers. KeePass Google Synchttp://keepass.info/plugins.html#kpgsync [http://keepass.info/images/plg2xint.png] Synchronize using Google Drive. KPDataSave (Dropbox)http://keepass.info/plugins.html#kpdatasave [http://keepass.info/images/plg2xint.png] Save your database in Dropbox. (from http://keepass.info/plugins.html) As far as I'm aware the plugins for Dropbox and Google Drive are the most popular sync ones, and if you're not being as paranoid as I am you don't need the portable install or TrueCrypt. Just let it sync between your various installs and devices and forget about it. Cheers, Nathan Chere - Software Developer (.NET) SAI Global Property | www.saiglobal.com/propertyhttp://www.saiglobal.com/property From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of ILT (O) Sent: Monday, 24 March 2014 1:20 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] Password hash cracking Nathan, I had never considered Keepass though have seen it discussed etc for years. I have often used TrueCrypt USB 'disks' (sticks) when travelling, I guess what you're doing with a TrueCrypt file on Dropbox is much the same. I would like to see this a bit more automatic as a backup for password database, though. Is anyone using 7Pass? (The WP7 version of Keepass, for which it seems v3.6 is OK for WP7.8 and WP8 - ?) Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Chere Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 9:29 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] Password hash cracking I used to use Password Safe and there's a pretty good .Net implementation of the password store reader on CodeProjecthttp://www.codeproject.com/Articles/20892/Password-Safe-Database-Reader-Library-in-C-for-NET if you want to extend its usefulness yourself. That said, I now use Keepass and have no regrets: http://keepass.info/ It's also open source but has a much more active dev community around it than SPS, the downloads page has ports to virtually any platform you could possibly want, and there's a well-designed plugin system which lets you do things like near transparently replace the Firefox or Chrome saved password functionality with Keepass. I run a portable instance in a TrueCrypt disk saved on Dropbox so I have online sync without the usual concerns. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of ILT (O) Sent: Monday, 24 March 2014 12:23 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] Password hash cracking Grant, re Password Safe (etc) - I was using RoboForm on $9.95 a year and they have just released a version for Windows Phone 8, but I have let it lapse. I would rather back up my pw database to OneDrive than have RoboForm manage it at their site, for some reason. Have you see any comparison of Password Safe with RoboForm? It seems the Password Safe Sourceforge dev project isn't interested in a WP8 version. I would like to use the same application across the different platforms. Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Grant Maw Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:08 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Password hash cracking Or, just use Schneier's Password Safe program and let it generate all your passwords for you. I've been using it for years and I swear by it. I have hundreds of passwords stored in it's files and they're all long and very complex. http://passwordsafe.sourceforge.net/ On 22 March 2014 16:08, Greg Keogh g...@mira.netmailto:g...@mira.net wrote: Folks, in Bruce Schneier's latest newsletterhttps://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-1403.html there is a section at the end where he discusses the vulnerability of passwords. One of the links is to this interesting and frightening article: http
RE: Security scaremongering
Firefox whinges about everything lately. eg I don't care if Java is insecure again when I updated less than half an hour ago, but it forces either update or go without. Does anyone perhaps know how to block the service Firefox uses to check for plugin updates? From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of anthonyatsmall...@mail.com Sent: Monday, 17 February 2014 11:06 AM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: Security scaremongering I have noticed firefox complaining about Silverlight recently, saying security vulnerabilityanyone else seen this? Anthony Salerno | Consultant | SmallBiz Australia Software Developers | Mobile | Tablet | Software | Web | eCommerce | IT Support Phone : +613 8400 4191 Email : 2Anthony (at) smallbiz.com.au Postal : Po Box 135, Lower Plenty 3093 ABN : 16 079 706 737 From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Saturday, 15 February 2014 12:54 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Security scaremongering I don't see the correlation between IE and Silverlight here - sure the browser has some exploits that *POTENTIALLY* are available but to throw Silverlight out is to throw Java, Flash, Quicktime etc also out. Focus on the role not the person is your first approach, if this person is trying to build their Security Empire and using anti-Microsoft bias as a way to fuel the flames, ask questions about the role, interrogate their actual position boundaries to determine if its a person with accountability authority or just some loud mouth (like me) shooting shit from the sidelines? Next is risk assessment, ok so there's a flaw in the system. There are 1000's of flaws in every corporations systems (even Microsofts) now comes back to Consequences vs Likelihood of that actually being a risk. It's all well and good to argue If 1x genius finds this flaw and triggers it, well its Zombieland for mankind... but what's the consequences really of that activity from happening and lastly how likely is it from actually happening. If you're tucked snugly inside a DMZ it comes back to now What's the likelihood of an employee exploiting this hole to add further pain to other employees? because once a corporations firewall gets penetrated... IE flaws become 1 of 1000+ problems that company will face (not saying it should be patched, just ...i dunno...reality check that shit). It reminds me of the virus scanner debates where Security Essentials got a low rating because it didn't track something like 100+ virus signatures... and Microsoft Security came back and said something like Yeah but nobody has seen those virus's since the 90's and even today the likelihood of them working is still low ..basically they apparently (dont quote me on this) outlined the risk matrix and told these other jackasses to calm down but in their own polite manner. I'm pretty confident Silverlight is secure to the point where during its creation there was a lot of effort that went into making sure there was 0 security issues known, because ultimately during that period had one existed we'd have been crucified and Adobe would have seized that as a moment to choke us PR wise. I can't say for sure exactly how secure Silverlight is but I do remember Program Managers saying with high confidence I'd like to see them try.. Just tell the dude fine you win, we'll use Chrome. so back to Silverlight..where's the data champ... :) as personally I think IE should have been taken out to the woodshed long ago...so idiots like these don't get to use the branding cancer against its ACTUAL technical rehabilitation ... --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Why so much hate? Haters are going to hate. I wouldn't bother, it would be like that cartoon about someone being wrong on the internet... On Feb 15, 2014 8:00 AM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.netmailto:g...@mira.net wrote: Folks, one of our customers has an IT admin guy who is a Linux fan and runs a farm of Linux servers. He has the typical cultural anti-Microsoft bias that I'm sure we encounter now and then. Not normally a problem, but he's forwarding around scary emails warning of vulnerabilities in IE and Silverlight which could put our deployment at risk. I became suspicious when yesterday he said something like because IE is 'closer' to the operating system than other browsers, a flaw in IE makes Windows more vulnerable. This seems preposterous to me, and it's vague, but it pleases me to imagine that the User/Kernel mode boundaries between IE and Windows are no different than any other normal application. Anyway, in his email he links to these pages: http://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-26/product_id-19887/Microsoft-Silverlight.html
RE: [OT] Favourite Coding Album
Maybe use something like Grooveshark’s collaborative playlists so it’s not just for the Win8 crowd? http://help.grooveshark.com/customer/portal/articles/528163-collaborative-playlists From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of osjasonrobe...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2014 3:17 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Favourite Coding Album Hope to - gonna blog the results which should be fun - anyone know if you can create Xbox Music playlists to share (or other ways to create sharable playlists??) Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts From: mike smithmailto:meski...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2014 12:15 PM To: ozDotNetmailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Going to makeup a playlist for us at the end? On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Craig van Nieuwkerk crai...@gmail.commailto:crai...@gmail.com wrote: If only the chicks were really for free! On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:12 PM, mike smith meski...@gmail.commailto:meski...@gmail.com wrote: Worked for me (now listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP2RUD_cL0feature=kp ) Damn, I love that guitar! On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 5:00 PM, osjasonrobe...@gmail.commailto:osjasonrobe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, thought it would be cool to write a fun blog post with programmers fave albums I used Excel web app survey to create it which is pretty cool http://bit.ly/programmermusicsurvey Spread the word, will be cool to see the results Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: asp.net / database / coding issue.
Try changing your font from Comic Sans to something like Lucida Console or
Courier New and run it again.
Don't worry, I think this one has caught us all out at some point in our lives.
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of Glen Harvy
Sent: Wednesday, 12 February 2014 4:51 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: asp.net / database / coding issue.
Hi,
I have had a problem with one client of mine where they run a court rental
agency for various councils and they do everything on a shoestring. I believe
everything in the office is run on a laptop with 4 gig memory including my
software which includes a web server which provides their users with the
ability to book courts. I have had no reports of the problem from any of my
other clients.
The specific issue is when I check that there are no present bookings before
allowing a new booking for any specific time frame.
I have little in-depth knowledge of asp.net however I do believe that each
customer logged on have their own session state and the html is created in that
state and then fed to the customers browser. There should be no cross-over of
this data in-memory however I notice that the problem seems to occur when there
are more than two users logged in. I mention this because the problem may be
with my coding and not with the database.
Here's the code which I have only just heavily modified in an effort to capture
the specific problem:
[code=csharp]
bool available = true;
string location = ;
Columns columns = requestedColumnNames(bookingStartDT, bookingPeriods);
int columnsToBeCheckedCount = columns.ColumnsFirstDay.Count;
int conflictsFound = 0;
int columnsChecked = 0;
using (MCData.DBManager dbManager = new
MCData.DBManager(AppSettings.DataDirectory))
{
try
{
location = Day 1;
dbManager.Open();
dbManager.AddParameter(@BookingDate, bookingStartDT.Date);
dbManager.AddParameter(@FacilityID, facilityID);
dbManager.ExecuteReader(CommandType.Text,
string.Format(SELECT BookingDate, Court, {0} FROM BTable WHERE
BookingDate = @BookingDate AND Court = @FacilityID, columns.CSVFirstDay));
logger.Debug(+++ FacilityID [{0}],
dbManager.Parameter[@FacilityID].Valuemailto:%22,%20dbManager.Parameter[%22@FacilityID%22].Value);
logger.Debug(+++ BookingStartDT [{0}],
dbManager.Parameter[@BookingDate].Valuemailto:%22,%20dbManager.Parameter[%22@BookingDate%22].Value);
logger.Debug(+++ SQL [{0}], dbManager.Command.CommandText);
logger.Debug(+++ Connection string [{0}],
dbManager.ConnectionString);
int fieldsReturned = 0;
using (IDataReader rdr = dbManager.DataReader)
{
while (rdr.Read())
{
for (int i = 0; i rdr.FieldCount; i++)
{
string column = rdr.GetName(i).ToString();
if (column.StartsWith(T))
{
fieldsReturned++;
columnsChecked++;
if (!Convert.IsDBNull(rdr.GetValue(i)))
{
logger.Debug(+++ Facility [{0}] Date [{1}] Column [{2}]
value is not null [{3}].,
facilityID, bookingStartDT.Date, column, rdr.GetValue(i));
conflictsFound++;
}
}
else if (column == BookingDate)
{
logger.Debug(+++ BookingDate returned [{0:-MM-dd
HH:mm:ss}], rdr.GetValue(i));
}
else if (column == Court)
{
logger.Debug(+++ Court returned [{0}], rdr.GetValue(i));
}
}
}
}
logger.Debug(+++ Number of fields tested for null value [{0}] of a
total TColumn count of [{1}],
fieldsReturned, columns.ColumnsFirstDay.Count);
logger.Debug(+++ Columns to be checked count [{0}] Columns cheked
count [{1}],
columnsToBeCheckedCount, columnsChecked);
if (columnsChecked == columnsToBeCheckedCount conflictsFound 0)
{
logger.Debug(+++ All columns checked. Number of conflicts found
[{0}], conflictsFound);
available = false;
}
if (available columnsChecked != columnsToBeCheckedCount)
{
logger.Debug(+++ Not all columns checked. Setting availability to
false.);
available = false;
}
if (available conflictsFound 0)
{
logger.Debug(+++ Number of conflicts found [{0}], conflictsFound);
available = false;
}
logger.Debug(+++ Available status is [{0}], available);
[/code]
Now here's the log portion:
2014-02-12 09:42:07.9304 HP-HP MyCourtsOnline.Default.#wPc ypaul Checking For
Booking Conflicts RequestedFacilityID [6]
RE: [OT] Favourite Coding Album
FYI that bit.ly link gives a Skydrive error message. The IFTTT link on your Twitter page works fine From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of osjasonrobe...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, 12 February 2014 5:00 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: [OT] Favourite Coding Album Hi all, thought it would be cool to write a fun blog post with programmers fave albums I used Excel web app survey to create it which is pretty cool http://bit.ly/programmermusicsurvey Spread the word, will be cool to see the results Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ...
Maybe things have changed but circa the last Windows Phones I had (HTC Trophy and HTC 7): on the strength of apps it wasn't even in the race with Apple or Google, absolutely no phones had anywhere near the after-market accessory support (both diversity and availability) of iPhones/iPads or the bigger Android devices (especially the main Galaxy models), and it had all the walled garden shortcomings of iOS like limited customisability, requiring bulky iTunes/Zune crapware to make a computer even see the phone, no alternative app store options or ability to install your own local software (at least not without a paid 'developer' account), and inability to do relatively basic things like browse the file system from a PC to copy files to/from. My single biggest frustration being that I want to be able to use it as a PHONE was that the rebranding from Windows Mobile to Windows Phone meant neutering or outright losing PHONE-related functionality like contact sync, backup/restore SMS messages, call log export and call blacklists for ignoring withheld/private numbers. Many of these things were non-issues in Windows Mobile 6 and prior which I was a big fan of, and the walled garden bullshit means apps for this kind of functionality can't be ported to Windows Phone even if the developers wanted to. The main draw-card of Windows Phone development for me (XNA) was left in various states of crap like 'update coming soon' and incompatibility with current Visual Studio versions before dropping support entirely. In short, as much as I really wanted to like Windows Phone, they did anything I could possibly think of to do wrong from both a consumer and developer standpoint. Is my understanding of Windows Phone horribly out of date, or (as I suspect looking at the arrogance and near-complete lack of acknowledgement of feedback and popular opinion with Windows 8) has little of the above rant changed from the early WP7 days? Are you able to do something as simple as backup/export your SMS messages with Windows Phone yet (something MS were promising since the Mango announcement by which point I had bought a Galaxy and haven't had any reason to look back)? Is it worth a grumpy cat like myself giving the Lumia-era phones a try or am I just going to be left even more jaded and cynical? From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Friday, 7 February 2014 11:28 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ... I have the Nokia 1520 and its 6 screen is almost the size of a nexus 7. Love it, and it still fits in my pocket. The lack of apps (there is still a gap) isn't as bothersome as I thought. There is one app I use that doesn't have an official one (Harvest) which I just pin a shortcut to the website and their mobile website looks like a native app. Really well done and with a 4G connection you'd never know its a web app. Also am using Xbox music exclusively now. Was using Mog with the unlimited streaming on Telstra but now I just download what I want (64Gb sd card) at home. I also have my Nexus 5 sitting here not doing anything if I ever decide to switch back... not touched it since getting my Nokia. On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: The Omnia 7 was good when it came out (but, I agree the Maps app was useless outside of the US). Unfortunately WP7 devices are now the equivalent of a 2nd gen iPhone, due to the changes in architecture between WP7 and WP8, you miss out on a lot of functionality. Here Maps has offline maps, speed limits, routing options etc. - just like using a regular GPS device. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tony Wright Sent: Friday, 7 February 2014 10:35 AM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ... Nah, it's a Samsung Omnia 7, and that app doesn't appear in the marketplace. But actually, I just found a pretty good google client, which has everything I need. Will give that a go. T. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Friday, 7 February 2014 10:15 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ... You can't get Here Maps (previously Nokia Drive etc.) instead? That has options to use/avoid toll roads, defaults to Australian addresses etc. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tony Wright Sent: Friday, 7 February 2014 9:48 AM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ... I have a problem with Bing Maps as well on my Windows Phone. Firstly, it doesn't seem to recognise where I am. Even after locating me on the map,
RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ...
much hurt so defens wow Calm down cowboy. Sorry if that's how it sounded but it wasn't meant to come across as a rant directed towards you, so no need to get your knickers in a twist. I'm pretty sure I've already mentioned enough issues that it isn't a sample size of 1, and I both looked at your links and googled around related functionality to see what was possible. The best glimmer of hope I could find was this: http://forums.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-8/225574-wow-look-view-text-message-backup-outlook.html which has subsequently been locked down by MS as well. There appears to be no way to access your messages once on Skydrive other than to restore directly to another Windows Phone 8 device. Yeah, combined with the points I already made, I think it's sufficiently demonstrates something about an entire platform. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Friday, 7 February 2014 3:36 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ... OK - you asked for backup/export, so I gave you some instructions on how to backup your text messages. Just because *I* don't know how to do this, don't care for this functionality, and can't be f*cked* looking this up for you, doesn't mean that the functionality doesn't exist. And then, based on a sample size of 1, you claim that this demonstrates something about an entire phone platform? Wow. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Chere Sent: Friday, 7 February 2014 3:22 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ... That perfectly demonstrates how far backwards Windows Phone is compared to Windows Mobile and the pain-in-the-ass mentality of Win8/WP8-era MS. You still can't really export the messages. It's a black-box backup to Skydrive and a restore from Skydrive, ie your messages are still locked in. Is it really asking that much to be able to just export MY messages to something like CSV or XML and let me email it, upload to Dropbox, copy to my desktop etc? It's almost like DRM-by-stealth over your own content. Even as early as Windows Mobile 2003 you could sync your SMS messages with Outlook locally and do whatever you want with them from there. Windows Mobile 2003 did it better than Windows Phone 8! ARHRHHHRGHRRHIRGRGRHOGRGR /rant From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Friday, 7 February 2014 2:40 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ... For text messages, you can: http://forums.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-8/230367-sms-backup.html http://www.windowsphone.com/en-au/how-to/wp8/basics/back-up-my-stuff The one main gripe I have is that you used to be able to start typing someone's name on the onscreen keyboard in WM6, and it would search both by number and contact name. That (still) doesn't work. I think a lot of basic functionality is there now - maybe more so with the Lumias than the other brands, as Nokia seemed to have invested fairly heavily. I like having a mapping app that can tell me if I'm speeding - iPhone doesn't have that inbuilt :) That said, whilst Microsoft's been backfilling the missing basic functionality, Android and IOS haven't been standing still. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Chere Sent: Friday, 7 February 2014 2:02 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ... Are you able to do something as simple as backup/export your SMS messages with Windows Phone yet (something MS were promising since the Mango announcement by which point I had bought a Galaxy and haven't had any reason to look back)? Is it worth a grumpy cat like myself giving the Lumia-era phones a try or am I just going to be left even more jaded and cynical? Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.comhttp://www.websense.com/
RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ...
Looking further into the WP8 backup, this paints an even worse picture than I'd imagined: http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/16663_When_is_a_backup_not_a_backup_.php From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Chere Sent: Friday, 7 February 2014 3:52 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ... much hurt so defens wow Calm down cowboy. Sorry if that's how it sounded but it wasn't meant to come across as a rant directed towards you, so no need to get your knickers in a twist. I'm pretty sure I've already mentioned enough issues that it isn't a sample size of 1, and I both looked at your links and googled around related functionality to see what was possible. The best glimmer of hope I could find was this: http://forums.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-8/225574-wow-look-view-text-message-backup-outlook.html which has subsequently been locked down by MS as well. There appears to be no way to access your messages once on Skydrive other than to restore directly to another Windows Phone 8 device. Yeah, combined with the points I already made, I think it's sufficiently demonstrates something about an entire platform. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Friday, 7 February 2014 3:36 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ... OK - you asked for backup/export, so I gave you some instructions on how to backup your text messages. Just because *I* don't know how to do this, don't care for this functionality, and can't be f*cked* looking this up for you, doesn't mean that the functionality doesn't exist. And then, based on a sample size of 1, you claim that this demonstrates something about an entire phone platform? Wow. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Chere Sent: Friday, 7 February 2014 3:22 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ... That perfectly demonstrates how far backwards Windows Phone is compared to Windows Mobile and the pain-in-the-ass mentality of Win8/WP8-era MS. You still can't really export the messages. It's a black-box backup to Skydrive and a restore from Skydrive, ie your messages are still locked in. Is it really asking that much to be able to just export MY messages to something like CSV or XML and let me email it, upload to Dropbox, copy to my desktop etc? It's almost like DRM-by-stealth over your own content. Even as early as Windows Mobile 2003 you could sync your SMS messages with Outlook locally and do whatever you want with them from there. Windows Mobile 2003 did it better than Windows Phone 8! ARHRHHHRGHRRHIRGRGRHOGRGR /rant From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Friday, 7 February 2014 2:40 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ... For text messages, you can: http://forums.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-8/230367-sms-backup.html http://www.windowsphone.com/en-au/how-to/wp8/basics/back-up-my-stuff The one main gripe I have is that you used to be able to start typing someone's name on the onscreen keyboard in WM6, and it would search both by number and contact name. That (still) doesn't work. I think a lot of basic functionality is there now - maybe more so with the Lumias than the other brands, as Nokia seemed to have invested fairly heavily. I like having a mapping app that can tell me if I'm speeding - iPhone doesn't have that inbuilt :) That said, whilst Microsoft's been backfilling the missing basic functionality, Android and IOS haven't been standing still. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Chere Sent: Friday, 7 February 2014 2:02 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ... Are you able to do something as simple as backup/export your SMS messages with Windows Phone yet (something MS were promising since the Mango announcement by which point I had bought a Galaxy and haven't had any reason to look back)? Is it worth a grumpy cat like myself giving the Lumia-era phones a try or am I just going to be left even more jaded and cynical? Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.comhttp://www.websense.com/
RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ...
Only 4% in revenue directly, sure, but contributes far more in ubiquity and product familiarity with an inevitable and substantial knock-on effect to enterprise. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Kean Sent: Thursday, 6 February 2014 4:13 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ... Consumer makes up just 4% of Microsoft’s revenue. Regardless of what happens, I think we’ll be okay. :) From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of anthonyatsmall...@mail.commailto:anthonyatsmall...@mail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 4:32 AM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ... Just making some noise, never heard of him before..good luck to him. I’m interested to know how Microsoft can stay so big with the cloud being so dominant and the desktop for consumers being less important. Having installed software is becoming less important...I have been a Microsoft person for many years but have recently been looking at non Microsoft Technologies...where’s Windows Phone 8 going? Anthony Salerno | Senior Consultant | SmallBiz Australia Software Developers | Software Development | Web Development | Software Consulting | Innovation Designer Phone : +613 8400 4191 Email : 2Anthony (at) smallbiz.com.au Web : www.smallbiz.com.auhttp://www.smallbiz.com.au From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Wednesday, 5 February 2014 11:10 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Today was very quiet on ozdotnet ... On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 10:03 PM, anthonyatsmall...@mail.commailto:anthonyatsmall...@mail.com wrote: Maybe everyone is selling their stocks! Don't reckon he was a good choice? I thought they did extremely well for an internal candidate. David. Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: [OT] Raid 0
For a dev machine I think it's overkill. Using one of our main applications at work as the test case to justify a move to SSDs, times for running the unit tests (times averaged over 5 runs of each) were: (mins:seconds) 1x magnetic drive with everything on one drive: 3:42 1x SSD with everything on one drive: 0:54 1x magnetic drive (OS), 1x SSD (documents/project files/etc): 0:52 1x magnetic drive (OS), 1x SSD (documents/project files/etc) with temp folders, paging file etc on SSD: 0:44 2x SSD (one for OS, one for documents/project files/etc): 0:33 2x SSD (RAID 0) with everything on one drive: 0:31 RAID 0 has its place when disk access is a major bottleneck (eg video production, music studio workstations, high volume database server etc) but for a software development it's pretty wasteful when you get near-enough indistinguishable performance by having the two drives running separately, plus double the storage space and only risking half as much data if one of them fails. PS: those numbers are from last-gen SSDs (read/write around 250/200Mbps) so I would expect the performance of a single current-gen SSD (around 500/400) to be even closer to the two drive configurations making a RAID 0 setup even harder to justify. On 29 January 2014 15:30, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: RAID0's usually used for speed, when you don't care about protecting the underlying content (e.g. it's ephemeral or you've got it protected somewhere else). I think SSDs have eliminated the need for RAID0 on most single user machines. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of anthonyatsmall...@mail.commailto:anthonyatsmall...@mail.com Sent: Wednesday, 29 January 2014 1:27 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: [OT] Raid 0 Anyone using raid 0 for their dev machine? I have a raid card with 4 drives and deciding on whether to use 2 drives in RAID 0 and 2 drives in Raid 1 -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: Changing from VS 2013 Ultimate Trial to purhcsing Professional
Nope. If you've installed as Ultimate it won't accept your Professional key as valid. You'll need to uninstall the trial and re-install. PS: In future you should consider using a VM when you want to trial-install something as pervasive as Visual Studio. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Arjang Assadi Sent: Thursday, 16 January 2014 9:21 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Changing from VS 2013 Ultimate Trial to purhcsing Professional Hello I have been enjoying the trial version of VS 2013 ultimate, but all things considered would rather purchase a Professional edition when the trial expiers. Is it possible to get the Professional key and disable some features of ultimate instead of uninstalling Ultimate and installing the Professional ? Thanks for any info on this Regards Arjang Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: [OT] Taking iiNet to TIO
A level 1 complaint costs them about $35. If the matter can’t be resolved and is escalated, it then costs the defendant around $350 – a mandatory cost as part of being a TIO member. If the contract cancellation fee is anything less than $350, it makes more sense for them to waive the fee than let it escalate. If they still want to be dicks about it, the costs escalate rapidly from there – around $600 for a level 3 complaint and $2,500 for a level 4 complaint. In a nut shell, as soon as the TIO is involved it is in their best interest to pull their heads out of their asses and address your complaints properly instead of trying to bury it under ‘process’. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Wednesday, 18 December 2013 10:20 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Taking iiNet to TIO On 17 December 2013 21:44, Girish Madan girishma...@gmail.commailto:girishma...@gmail.com wrote: Just wanted to ask if anyone had any experience in making a complaint against iiNet to TIO. I signed up on a 24 months Phone, ADSL and TV Combo at the start of this year. After 10 months of over charging my credit card, faulty hardware and extremely poor customer service, i've had enough and want to cancel the contract. Unsurprisingly, they want me to pay to cancel the contract even though i've already been paying for the service that didn't work for a while. I've done a TIO against Telstra around some phone number porting. You will find iiNet become suddenly very responsive when you file the TIO complaint - as soon as I filed the complaint I had a case manager in Telstra's internal special TIO response group who resolved it in 24 hrs. The carriers are graded by numbers of complaints and levied accordingly. They take it very seriously. David. Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: [OT] We need a senior developer ASAP!
If you're serious you should try putting the hourly rate in the ad too. It's not hard. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Anton Felich Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2013 8:21 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: [OT] We need a senior developer ASAP! Hey guys, We are looking to take another senior developer on board to work on a large SaaS application. Link to job ad is: - http://ngaerecruit.nga.net.au/cp/index.cfm?event=jobs.checkJobDetailsNewApplicationreturnToEvent=jobs.listJobsjobid=7126cd6d-60fa-4a2f-bf4a-a28100cbfafbCurATC=EXTCurBID=9f0bb952-50f3-4d91-850d-9db401350b96JobListID=0b92db25-0eb1-4e89-8df2-9bc90126acaajobsListKey=395468f1-d71b-4598-8a49-df77641411b8persistVariables=CurATC,CurBID,JobListID,jobsListKey,JobIDlid=39379610015 Here is some of the frameworks we are using: - MVC 3.0 Fluent nHibernate StructureMap NUnit / Moq Bootstrap Reply direct to me so the rest of the group doesn't get spammed. Cheers, Anton Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: Mark II
“they can’t even get IE to conform to the HTML standard..when I develop web apps….IE is always where the problems occur” On a related note, I’ve been focusing on getting up to date again with web UI and funnily enough IE seems to support standards better than Chrome without requiring vendor-specific prefixes. Plus the developer tools are surprisingly good. Haters gonna hate and all that, but it looks like they’re finally getting IE right. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of anthonyatsmall...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 3:41 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: Mark II I wonder who is doing all the research for the Surface Pro Marketing… a giant that can’t find its home any more! I believe Microsoft needs to something quickly if it wants to stay a giant player ..except for business, devs etc no needs to buy MS software anymore..everything is going web and Microsoft appears to be very bad in this area..they can’t even get IE to conform to the HTML standard..when I develop web apps….IE is always where the problems occur. Initially MS ensured their IE had different HTML features so that we all developed to IE(as was normal) but now this has ‘back fired’ on them! Anthony Melbourne StuffUps…learn from others, share with others! http://www.meetup.com/Melbourne-Ideas-Incubator-Stuffups-Failed-Startups/ -- NOTICE : The information contained in this electronic mail message is privileged and confidential, and is intended only for use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or disclosing it. (*13POrtC*) --- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Chere Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 3:23 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Mark II … except that their phone/tablet strategy and all the failings that go with their metro/Windows Store/whatever-they-decide-to-call-it-tomorrow vision are leaking fail all over the desktop, and the “free 8.1 update” (ie Windows 8 SP1, except they can’t call a spade a spade after making such a big deal about no more service packs) has done near enough to nothing to alleviate it. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 3:16 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Mark II The issue I have with that position is that the Surface Pro isn’t limited to the Windows Store, and since there are plenty of non-store apps (e.g. Office) that can be run on a Surface Pro, the proposition is more than just Windows Store. Surface RT, on the other hand… Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Chere Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 2:40 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Mark II The crux of what I’m talking about boils down to Windows Store, so both. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 2:37 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Mark II Are you talking about the Surface RT? Or the Surface Pro? They’re two different products. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Chere Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 2:34 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Mark II I reckon Microsoft would be happy if they could get 50 good applications too. Even then, it’s not enough to have “good” apps. They need exclusive apps… and really, if you have an idea even remotely worth doing something with, why in your right mind would you choose Windows Store of all places to make it exclusive to? … which ultimately means apps aren’t enough. The platform is a failure. With the Surface they chose to consolidate Windows (desktop) and Windows Mobile while ignoring virtually all of the key strengths of the products they were bastardising (especially with RT). They’ve limited their niche to the kind of people who want to do more than they can with the currently popular idea of a ‘tablet’ but don’t want the power and versatility of a full-blown laptop. Had they gone down the road of Windows Mobile 7 with an optional but default app store instead of the almost complete re-imagining which was Windows Phone 7 (and 7.5, 8 etc) I imagine they would have built on the slice
RE: Mark II
The ‘problem’ they’re trying to solve (as I understand it) is not keeping up with the Jones’ in terms of easy it is for the average J. Doe to download things from Apple’s App Store with confidence that it won’t contain malware or corrupt their system. Not a bad thing in itself, but the mistake (as I understand) it is forcing it as the ‘one true path’ at the expense of the general desktop experience. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Wednesday, 25 September 2013 9:29 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Mark II On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.commailto:scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Good straw-man test to undertake - how many times a day you check the AppStore in Windows 8.1 .. You're dead right. Moreover I don't really know what problem the Windows 8 app store is solving. It has never been hard to obtain/install software for Windows. The app store on iPhone was revolutionary because it was a total PITA to get apps onto a phone prior to it and the quality of what was there (syncing apps onto Windows Mobile etc) was pretty bad. David. Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: Mark II
I reckon Microsoft would be happy if they could get 50 good applications too. Even then, it’s not enough to have “good” apps. They need exclusive apps… and really, if you have an idea even remotely worth doing something with, why in your right mind would you choose Windows Store of all places to make it exclusive to? … which ultimately means apps aren’t enough. The platform is a failure. With the Surface they chose to consolidate Windows (desktop) and Windows Mobile while ignoring virtually all of the key strengths of the products they were bastardising (especially with RT). They’ve limited their niche to the kind of people who want to do more than they can with the currently popular idea of a ‘tablet’ but don’t want the power and versatility of a full-blown laptop. Had they gone down the road of Windows Mobile 7 with an optional but default app store instead of the almost complete re-imagining which was Windows Phone 7 (and 7.5, 8 etc) I imagine they would have built on the slice of the enterprise market they had with prior Windows Mobile instead of almost completely alienating the enterprise, continued to appeal to the hobbyist and amateur developer market (increasingly so with XNA – which they’ve also canned, another brainfart) and provided a convenient medium for accessing content for the average consumer. The pre-requisite of Zune to do anything useful reeks of all the fail of iTunes. Even though they’ve limited piracy, there’s virtually nothing in the store worth pirating anyway. Because no-one wants to use it, which means no-one wants to develop for it. I’d much rather target a platform with 60%-95% piracy rate (depending on who you believe) and a paying customer base of 100s of millions than a platform with 5-20% piracy rate (also depending on who you believe) but a single completely broken store with no quality control (even rewarding people for shit apps – “quantity over quality”) and a distinct minority customer base of whom the paying customers are an even more fragile minority. But why learn from the mistakes and failings of Windows Phone? Why not sink the tablet market as well, and do all we can to take down the desktop in general while we’re at it? /rant which started off as a one-liner but I get carried away so apologies for any beating of any dead horses and drawing of long bows From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 1:23 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: Mark II That’s the usual cynical review, but it did add a few things I didn’t know about the docking station, the ability to run 2 screens, extra USB ports (on the Pro2, one of them is USB 1.0 – really?), and the Power Cover is also usable on the Surface Mark I. The review leaves out extra RAM, card slot, cameras, size of the SSD, and some other minor details, in favour of emphasising that the Windows Store lags far behind the Apple and Google counterparts, with only 100K apps. Do a need a choice of a million or more? I reckon if I could get 50 good applications I would be quite happy. Also, iirc one was to be 5-point touch, the other 10-point; one has USB 2.0 the other USB 3.0 – I guess I need to search for some more complete information. Isn’t there a mini DisplayPort or HDMI? Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:29 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Mark II But will it be any better? http://www.gizmag.com/microsoft-surface-2-announcement/29147/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribersutm_campaign=f7e5da2030-UA-2235360-4utm_medium=emailutm_term=0_65b67362bd-f7e5da2030-90318010 SSDD -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: Mark II
The crux of what I’m talking about boils down to Windows Store, so both. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 2:37 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Mark II Are you talking about the Surface RT? Or the Surface Pro? They’re two different products. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Chere Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 2:34 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Mark II I reckon Microsoft would be happy if they could get 50 good applications too. Even then, it’s not enough to have “good” apps. They need exclusive apps… and really, if you have an idea even remotely worth doing something with, why in your right mind would you choose Windows Store of all places to make it exclusive to? … which ultimately means apps aren’t enough. The platform is a failure. With the Surface they chose to consolidate Windows (desktop) and Windows Mobile while ignoring virtually all of the key strengths of the products they were bastardising (especially with RT). They’ve limited their niche to the kind of people who want to do more than they can with the currently popular idea of a ‘tablet’ but don’t want the power and versatility of a full-blown laptop. Had they gone down the road of Windows Mobile 7 with an optional but default app store instead of the almost complete re-imagining which was Windows Phone 7 (and 7.5, 8 etc) I imagine they would have built on the slice of the enterprise market they had with prior Windows Mobile instead of almost completely alienating the enterprise, continued to appeal to the hobbyist and amateur developer market (increasingly so with XNA – which they’ve also canned, another brainfart) and provided a convenient medium for accessing content for the average consumer. The pre-requisite of Zune to do anything useful reeks of all the fail of iTunes. Even though they’ve limited piracy, there’s virtually nothing in the store worth pirating anyway. Because no-one wants to use it, which means no-one wants to develop for it. I’d much rather target a platform with 60%-95% piracy rate (depending on who you believe) and a paying customer base of 100s of millions than a platform with 5-20% piracy rate (also depending on who you believe) but a single completely broken store with no quality control (even rewarding people for shit apps – “quantity over quality”) and a distinct minority customer base of whom the paying customers are an even more fragile minority. But why learn from the mistakes and failings of Windows Phone? Why not sink the tablet market as well, and do all we can to take down the desktop in general while we’re at it? /rant which started off as a one-liner but I get carried away so apologies for any beating of any dead horses and drawing of long bows From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 1:23 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: Mark II That’s the usual cynical review, but it did add a few things I didn’t know about the docking station, the ability to run 2 screens, extra USB ports (on the Pro2, one of them is USB 1.0 – really?), and the Power Cover is also usable on the Surface Mark I. The review leaves out extra RAM, card slot, cameras, size of the SSD, and some other minor details, in favour of emphasising that the Windows Store lags far behind the Apple and Google counterparts, with only 100K apps. Do a need a choice of a million or more? I reckon if I could get 50 good applications I would be quite happy. Also, iirc one was to be 5-point touch, the other 10-point; one has USB 2.0 the other USB 3.0 – I guess I need to search for some more complete information. Isn’t there a mini DisplayPort or HDMI? Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:29 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Mark II But will it be any better? http://www.gizmag.com/microsoft-surface-2-announcement/29147/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribersutm_campaign=f7e5da2030-UA-2235360-4utm_medium=emailutm_term=0_65b67362bd-f7e5da2030-90318010 SSDD -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.comhttp://www.websense.com/
RE: Mark II
At least they didn't call it The New Surface (see: iPad 3). From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 2:49 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Mark II 3 products... all with the same name.. nope nothing wrong with the marketing here :D --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:47 PM, mike smith meski...@gmail.commailto:meski...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Are you talking about the Surface RT? Or the Surface Pro? They're two different products. With this version, 3 different products. Will there be fragmentation between the original and version 2? If there isn't, what's the point of it? People didn't want v1, if there's little or no difference, will they want v2? Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Chere Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 2:34 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Mark II I reckon Microsoft would be happy if they could get 50 good applications too. Even then, it's not enough to have good apps. They need exclusive apps... and really, if you have an idea even remotely worth doing something with, why in your right mind would you choose Windows Store of all places to make it exclusive to? ... which ultimately means apps aren't enough. The platform is a failure. With the Surface they chose to consolidate Windows (desktop) and Windows Mobile while ignoring virtually all of the key strengths of the products they were bastardising (especially with RT). They've limited their niche to the kind of people who want to do more than they can with the currently popular idea of a 'tablet' but don't want the power and versatility of a full-blown laptop. Had they gone down the road of Windows Mobile 7 with an optional but default app store instead of the almost complete re-imagining which was Windows Phone 7 (and 7.5, 8 etc) I imagine they would have built on the slice of the enterprise market they had with prior Windows Mobile instead of almost completely alienating the enterprise, continued to appeal to the hobbyist and amateur developer market (increasingly so with XNA - which they've also canned, another brainfart) and provided a convenient medium for accessing content for the average consumer. The pre-requisite of Zune to do anything useful reeks of all the fail of iTunes. Even though they've limited piracy, there's virtually nothing in the store worth pirating anyway. Because no-one wants to use it, which means no-one wants to develop for it. I'd much rather target a platform with 60%-95% piracy rate (depending on who you believe) and a paying customer base of 100s of millions than a platform with 5-20% piracy rate (also depending on who you believe) but a single completely broken store with no quality control (even rewarding people for shit apps - quantity over quality) and a distinct minority customer base of whom the paying customers are an even more fragile minority. But why learn from the mistakes and failings of Windows Phone? Why not sink the tablet market as well, and do all we can to take down the desktop in general while we're at it? /rant which started off as a one-liner but I get carried away so apologies for any beating of any dead horses and drawing of long bows From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 1:23 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: Mark II That's the usual cynical review, but it did add a few things I didn't know about the docking station, the ability to run 2 screens, extra USB ports (on the Pro2, one of them is USB 1.0 - really?), and the Power Cover is also usable on the Surface Mark I. The review leaves out extra RAM, card slot, cameras, size of the SSD, and some other minor details, in favour of emphasising that the Windows Store lags far behind the Apple and Google counterparts, with only 100K apps. Do a need a choice of a million or more? I reckon if I could get 50 good applications I would be quite happy. Also, iirc one was to be 5-point touch, the other 10-point; one has USB 2.0 the other USB 3.0 - I guess I need to search for some more complete information. Isn't there a mini DisplayPort or HDMI? Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:29 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Mark II But will it be any better? http://www.gizmag.com/microsoft-surface-2-announcement/29147/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribersutm_campaign=f7e5da2030-UA-2235360-4utm_medium
RE: Mark II
… except that their phone/tablet strategy and all the failings that go with their metro/Windows Store/whatever-they-decide-to-call-it-tomorrow vision are leaking fail all over the desktop, and the “free 8.1 update” (ie Windows 8 SP1, except they can’t call a spade a spade after making such a big deal about no more service packs) has done near enough to nothing to alleviate it. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 3:16 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Mark II The issue I have with that position is that the Surface Pro isn’t limited to the Windows Store, and since there are plenty of non-store apps (e.g. Office) that can be run on a Surface Pro, the proposition is more than just Windows Store. Surface RT, on the other hand… Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Chere Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 2:40 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Mark II The crux of what I’m talking about boils down to Windows Store, so both. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 2:37 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Mark II Are you talking about the Surface RT? Or the Surface Pro? They’re two different products. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Chere Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 2:34 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Mark II I reckon Microsoft would be happy if they could get 50 good applications too. Even then, it’s not enough to have “good” apps. They need exclusive apps… and really, if you have an idea even remotely worth doing something with, why in your right mind would you choose Windows Store of all places to make it exclusive to? … which ultimately means apps aren’t enough. The platform is a failure. With the Surface they chose to consolidate Windows (desktop) and Windows Mobile while ignoring virtually all of the key strengths of the products they were bastardising (especially with RT). They’ve limited their niche to the kind of people who want to do more than they can with the currently popular idea of a ‘tablet’ but don’t want the power and versatility of a full-blown laptop. Had they gone down the road of Windows Mobile 7 with an optional but default app store instead of the almost complete re-imagining which was Windows Phone 7 (and 7.5, 8 etc) I imagine they would have built on the slice of the enterprise market they had with prior Windows Mobile instead of almost completely alienating the enterprise, continued to appeal to the hobbyist and amateur developer market (increasingly so with XNA – which they’ve also canned, another brainfart) and provided a convenient medium for accessing content for the average consumer. The pre-requisite of Zune to do anything useful reeks of all the fail of iTunes. Even though they’ve limited piracy, there’s virtually nothing in the store worth pirating anyway. Because no-one wants to use it, which means no-one wants to develop for it. I’d much rather target a platform with 60%-95% piracy rate (depending on who you believe) and a paying customer base of 100s of millions than a platform with 5-20% piracy rate (also depending on who you believe) but a single completely broken store with no quality control (even rewarding people for shit apps – “quantity over quality”) and a distinct minority customer base of whom the paying customers are an even more fragile minority. But why learn from the mistakes and failings of Windows Phone? Why not sink the tablet market as well, and do all we can to take down the desktop in general while we’re at it? /rant which started off as a one-liner but I get carried away so apologies for any beating of any dead horses and drawing of long bows Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: Unity Learning Curve
Your game has a much broader horizon on Atari 2600 than WinPhone/Win8. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Saturday, 21 September 2013 7:08 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Unity Learning Curve I can't comment technically but I was at the Tokyo Game Show today and there were a couple of stands there that featured Unity pretty prominently. From a business perspective, your game has a much broader horizon on Unity than WinPhone/Win8. David Connors da...@connors.commailto:da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 3:57 PM, osjasonrobe...@gmail.commailto:osjasonrobe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have an idea for a game (2d, story-led, with a small number of mini-games for story progression). I want to release on Windows Phone (8) and possibly Win 8 stores. While I could do this in XAML/C# I was thinking Unity might be a better fit Has anyone built and published a Unity game? And what’s the learning curve like (tools, languages/scripting/data access/etc)? Cheers Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: Expression Web
I just wish they'd fix the toolbar / menu customisation so it would be as simple and straight-forward as it was in VS = 2008 before they WTF'd WPF'd the UI with no apparent benefit to the user. Other than for that (and not being able to use bitmap fonts - another consequence of the WTF WPF transition) I'd be unreservedly happier with VS2012. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Monday, 16 September 2013 6:35 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Expression Web Really? I much prefer VS2012... On 16/09/2013 4:12 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.aumailto:il.tho...@iinet.net.au wrote: Ok, I have now installed VS2012 Update 3 and the various extensions, NuGet packages. (I still prefer VS2010, obviously) Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Kean Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 1:58 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Expression Web VS 2012 Update 2 adds RTM support for WPF + SL. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 7:42 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Expression Web I've not heard anything that indicates yes, the true marker for this will be Nov when VS2013 RTW's (if that date is even still current) if after that its not released then doubtful it will leave that state. --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.aumailto:il.tho...@iinet.net.au wrote: Is the Blend jumble still in a state of flux? At this pagehttp://msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/expression the following points to a link that is not available today - Additionally a Preview version of Blend for Visual Studio 2012http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=261803 that supports Silverlight and WPF editing, as well as SketchFlow is available. I know the Preview has been available for 9 or 10 months. Is it about to be released at MSDN? Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: [OT] NBN revisited
What, you mean the fat rich pricks we've already got aren't fat, rich or prickly enough? From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2013 10:07 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited He won't get the numbers and this morning I was in a cafe eating breakfast and saw him on Sunrise talking about how he's going to take Murdoch to court for slander.. and even still I sit there thinking this guy has to be given a seat in the senate ...if only to make question time more energetic to watch... :) --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: There are multiple ways to cook an egg. Clive's policy platform isn't necessarily the best one. Pro free market (as opposed to pro-business) is what's generally best for consumers (even though it's not good for an individual business), whereas business people tend to become rent seekers lobbying for favours for their industries. Adam Smith noted something similar ~300 years ago in the Wealth of Nations, and nothing's changed. Silvio Berlusconi is an example of a successful businessman who's pro-business attitude didn't really extend to making life better for the general population. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Paul Evrat Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2013 8:37 AM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] NBN revisited Any pro-business force in parliament can only be good for the country. If business isn't doing well we can't afford anything else .. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tony Wright Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2013 7:52 AM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] NBN revisited Oh I thought the only people ridiculous enough to vote for him were Queenslanders. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 10:02 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited Is anyone else just a little bit curious to see Clive Palmer in Parliament House or is that just me.. I mean the comedic value alone is worth it On Wednesday, September 4, 2013, wrote: Well said...I believe Julian Assange would get my vote..i see honesty in him...mmm..that could bring a change! Anthony Melbourne StuffUps...learn from others, share with others! http://www.meetup.com/Melbourne-Ideas-Incubator-Stuffups-Failed-Startups/ -- NOTICE : The information contained in this electronic mail message is privileged and confidential, and is intended only for use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or disclosing it. (*13POrtC*) --- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tony Wright Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 6:02 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] NBN revisited Wow, he didn't even know what the policies of his party were. I think I know them better than he does! What are the 6 points of the 6 point Stop The Boats plan Er, the first one is stop the boats What are the other 5 points? Er we plan to stop the boats No, the other 5 points? Er we plan to stop the boats He should have said, well, so it's a 6 point plan but all 6 points are to stop the boats. What a vacuous bunch of pollie we have. Are these people worth $5? That's how much our first preference vote is worth together for the upper and lower house. I don't think they're worth it. Mine isn't going to Liberal or Labor. I'm finding someone closer to what I believe in and voting for them first and then voting for the party I want in. Why reward such mediocrity? From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of anthonyatsmall...@mail.commailto:anthonyatsmall...@mail.com Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 4:11 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] NBN revisited Full interview of Jaymes Diaz, Liberal Candidate for Greenwayhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrQPXXHUilU this is pretty funny and disturbing video! This guy is pretty useless..this politick has no idea about anything...its just a job he is going for...how do these people get into such
RE: Hidden/Missing button
From the form's code view you can Find all references and find in the .designer.cs / .designer.vb where the position is being initialised. Just change it there, no extension needed. Or from the form's Designer view you should be able to select the control using the combobox at the top of the Properties window and set the Top/Left values the same way. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of anthonyatsmall...@mail.com Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 12:02 AM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: Hidden/Missing button Anyone suggest a easy way to find a control on my winform and move it. I have button that has gone missing...ie has location -9000,-7000 I have many controls on the form and was hoping there was a easy way to find it/highlight, maybe a extension? Anthony Salerno Melbourne StuffUps Anthony Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: [OT] NBN revisited
? Interesting reading. Why the Labor Party had so much difficulty selling this we will probably never know. Probably something to do with the public face of the plan being a patronising power-tripping imbecile with no significant IT or Telco industry experience or credibility and even less respect for the public he was (still is) getting paid a motza to supposedly serve – Stephen “Spams Scams” Conroy. For such a significant public investment, things like a detailed cost-benefit analysis made available for open review should be mandatory before approval much less roll-out. To the best of my knowledge this still isn’t the case. They were also pushing things like the mandatory internet filter as part-and-parcel of the NBN which didn’t help (imagine the backlash if PRISM was making news while they were still pushing it?). If you push your product from day #1 with an iron fist attitude and constantly behave like you have something to hide, people won’t want to buy in whether you’re selling a bona fide cure for cancer or rancid snake oil. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tony Wright Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 10:15 AM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: [OT] NBN revisited Hi all, Now, I should start this by pointing out that it is looking like the Coalition is going to win this election, so this little excerpt is unlikely to change anything, but it’s always good to be informed. This is an excerpt from Peter Cochrane, ex-head of British Telecom, who essentially told the UK parliament how fibre to the node was one of the worst mistakes they’ve ever made. Just about every country that implemented fibre to the node now regrets that decision. As far as governments are concerned, he said …just getting them to realise that they have been misinformed and need to start thinking about the needs of a nation rather than the easy life desires of companies with outmoded thinking. From Peter: The Problem With DUDES in Telco’s 1) They come infected with the limited thinking aligned with their business 2) And their business is founded on a 200 year legacy of copper and not future IT needs 3) They have been used to a monopoly past 4) Like the bankers they have lost all sight of their full responsibilities to the society in which they live 5) Their old technology choices and management systems mean they cannot respond fast to change 6) BUT their was a bit of a golden time when their networks were transformed by optical fibre linking cities 7) In BTs case this saw staffing fall from 242,000 to 110,000, and if they did FTTH it would fall to 30,000 or less 8) AND THEN they did really dumb things like MPLS which is a concatenation of decision errors 9) More equipment and interface types than necessary is really bad engineering 10 And so is over 6000 buildings when you need less than 100 – and this is copper v glass Here are things telco’s real don’t get: 11) The world is not asymmetric 12) The cost go getting bandwidth to any location is zip – 1 bit/s or 10Gbit/s it is the same – civil engineering dominates all cost – even when you already have ducts in place 13) The cost of fibre is much less than copper for long lines and the local loop – there is no difference…. 14) FTTH provides a future proofing, ease of operation, lowest cost and the ultimate flexibility 15) FTTC/K et all with electronics between switch and customer just adds unreliability operating costs 16) PONS – GPON AND BPON et al made sense when fibre was 25p/m but not any more! 17) Direct fibre is simple cheap and reliable and can be built with office grade EtherNet kit 18) Without FTTH we will never have effective 3G or 4G – we need these nodes in offices and homes 19) The UK will be frozen out of Cloud Computing without a bandwidth everywhere 20) Bandwidths like 1Gbit/s might look huge today but they will look puny tomorrow 21) In my lifetime fast was: 90, 110, 300, 600, 1200, 2400, 9600, 18,200, 56,000, 64,000, 365 bit/s…,1, 2, 10, 20, 100, 200, 1000Mbit/s……why would anyone think this progression would stop or even slow down ?? 22) No surprise then the leading industrial nations look upon the UK and its silly debates with pity and amusement whilst they get on with the job. 23) It is worth visiting China, Japan, Korea, Singapore, Scandinavia, Jersey +++ to see the actuality and their plans to move up to 10Gbit/s to the home. 24) Over 35% of the UK population work on the move from home office/s, hotels. cars +++ and without bandwidth on the move they cannot achieve what is possible. 25) This country has its back to the financial wall and needs to focus on the GDP enabling technologies and those members of the population that can invoke +ve change to the benefit of all. The very saddest thing for me: 26) I realised that all this was possible in 1979 when I completed my PhD – and then I demonstrated that FTTH worked and was cheaper than copper in1986. By the early 90s
RE: [OT] Nokia sells smartphone business to Microsoft
Enterprise telco infrastructure, RD and a substantial patent portfolio. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 10:45 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Nokia sells smartphone business to Microsoft On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:23 PM, osjasonrobe...@gmail.commailto:osjasonrobe...@gmail.com wrote: It’s pretty amazing that 32,000 people will transfer from Nokia to Microsoft... Could be a great cross-pollination of ideas, marketing skills, etc. Wonder whether there will just be Microsoft Phone or whether they’ll keep (or be allowed to keep) the Lumia brand? Without phones, what does Nokia have? (don't twit me about phones vs smartphones, noone buys dumbphones anymore.) -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: [OT] NBN revisited
I was living in Riverstone for a while when it was scheduled to be one of the first suburbs in NSW to see the practical benefits of the NBN roll-out after the local ALP puppet Michelle Rowland used the NBN as a key differentiator in her campaign. That was 2007. Luckily my TPG ASDL2 connection was serviceable enough (~8-10Mbps download is more than enough to be productive) so I wasn’t left hanging anyway, but last time I checked what was happening out there they were launching a “Riverstone digital hub” at the end of 2012 in Riverstone Library, ie one single site with anything remotely approaching the promises of the NBN. That’s all they’ve produced. Not a single site, commercial or residential, hooked up. 6 years for a supposed pioneer site to produce effectively zip. I can’t pretend to understand a fraction of the technical or financial complexity of an infrastructure rollout on anywhere near that scale, but I can see when we’re clearly being taken for a ride. When people would rather vote for a dipshit like this than your own candidate you know you’re REALLY doing something wrong: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrQPXXHUilU From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 2:55 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited Looking at the rollout, it's scheduled to be available for me by end of year. Which is somewhat unfair, being I've already got vdsl2. On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:51 PM, GregAtGregLowDotCom g...@greglow.commailto:g...@greglow.com wrote: Like most people, I’d love to have FTTH. However, I have zero confidence in the current government’s ability to deliver it in a reasonable timeframe. Wishing for it won’t make it happen. Given a choice between paying $3K-$5k to connect our house to a local node in 2016, and a dream of a service that’s unlikely to appear before I retire in about 10 years’ time, there really is no serious choice to be made. I’d pay the $3k-$5k in a heartbeat. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775tel:%281300%20775%20775) office | +61 419201410tel:%2B61%20419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913tel:%2B61%203%208676%204913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.comhttp://www.sqldownunder.com/ From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Richards Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 2:38 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited Apart from the use of impacted, a nice article. For some reason, this whole argument reminds me of the republic referendum some years back. I knew a number of people who didn't like the idea of a politician appointed president and thought voting No meant the people would vote for the president. The fact is, the vast majority of people who vote on such things do so without all the facts. Certainly not enough to be responsible for making a decision. People on this list will tend to be looking at it from a technical point of view. I doubt any of this has any meaning to the population in general. If the NBN was available in my area, I'd get it. For cable, my only option now is Optus which is what I have. Telstra told me I could get ADSL with a fraction of the data and for a lot more money. If only I had a choice... David If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards... checkmate! -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama On 4 September 2013 13:53, Bill McCarthy bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.aumailto:bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au wrote: Here’s a good read from today : http://www.theage.com.au/digital-life/computers/blogs/gadgets-on-the-go/turnbulls-fragmented-nbn-dooms-australia-to-repeat-the-mistakes-of-the-past-20130904-2t4cr.html Hopefully that will help some folks see past the one tree and start looking at the forest. -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
Developer keyboard revisted
Following on from the post about the Atwood-driven keyboard, I just found one which I'll be buying once it's released (I don't do pre-orders with unproven vendors): http://kbtalkingusa.com/full-specifications-and-features/ I said the biggest thing I wanted was wireless, but this is even better. Proper Bluetooth AND still fall back to USB if desired/needed. I've never bothered with Bluetooth keyboards because they're usually half-baked pieces of crap with dodgy non-standard key layouts, but this would make using a keyboard with a tablet less of a token novelty. In short: CODE keyboard: + Backlight + Various dipswitch options + Tenkeyless option - Only Cherry clear switches KBTalking Pro: + Choice of popular Cherry keyswitches + Both Bluetooth and USB supported + Pair with multiple devices (including phones and tablets), not just one PC + Better hotkey functionality Given that the first two of the CODE keyboard advantages are of questionable practicality, the KBTalking Pro is an easy winner for my money. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: Developer keyboard revisted
Scrap the pre-order bit, looks like they have stock again. Hurrah. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Chere Sent: Friday, 30 August 2013 10:41 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Developer keyboard revisted Following on from the post about the Atwood-driven keyboard, I just found one which I'll be buying once it's released (I don't do pre-orders with unproven vendors): http://kbtalkingusa.com/full-specifications-and-features/ I said the biggest thing I wanted was wireless, but this is even better. Proper Bluetooth AND still fall back to USB if desired/needed. I've never bothered with Bluetooth keyboards because they're usually half-baked pieces of crap with dodgy non-standard key layouts, but this would make using a keyboard with a tablet less of a token novelty. In short: CODE keyboard: + Backlight + Various dipswitch options + Tenkeyless option - Only Cherry clear switches KBTalking Pro: + Choice of popular Cherry keyswitches + Both Bluetooth and USB supported + Pair with multiple devices (including phones and tablets), not just one PC + Better hotkey functionality Given that the first two of the CODE keyboard advantages are of questionable practicality, the KBTalking Pro is an easy winner for my money. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.comhttp://www.websense.com/ Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/WOfNEcEqlDjGX2PQPOmvUj5HujEvT5Z0DomGLA7GtN91uZRn0NzFv2Da0MC7Wsim41CAOKbjhdCzR1Lppn2zgQ== to report this email as spam.
RE: Has anyone used Sencha
Keeping in mind I haven't used Sencha for anything commercial beyond a feasibility spike, it seemed completely outclassed by Kendo (hence going with that). It felt slower/sluggish in the browser, far less elegantly designed from a development perspective, and nowhere near as easily extensible. Telerik's support was also exceptional when we tried doing things well outside the scope of what the documentation covered. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Thursday, 29 August 2013 5:19 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Has anyone used Sencha The project I'm on (WA Health) use Sencha Ext-Js for the front end. Using v3.4 atm (not the latest). It's all Javascript and it pretty much takes over the whole UI. It's not too bad, although I've not really had much experience with Javascript UI yet. (A little Kendo UI which is also very impressive, as well as a Pluralsight knockout course.). I'm not sold enough on it to recommend it whole heartedly, still early days for me. I get a better feel from Kendo UI than Ext-Js, but I've not looked at what else Sencha has (I think theres something called Sencha Touch?) Might also be my bias towards Telerik? If I were you I'd grab the Sencha examples and have a play, but also have a look at Kendo UI, and anything else you can get your hands on. Bootstrap and Knockout might also be worth looking at. Then you can make a better decision based on your own feel of it. cheers, Stephen On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Stuart Kinnear stu...@skproactive.commailto:stu...@skproactive.com wrote: Has anyone used Sencha components with dot net. I'm thinking that these guys have their act together on the front end perhaps hooking up to dot net web services or similar on the back end. I've looked briefly at their demo site and on the surface it looks pretty impressive. I'm intrigued as to how they convert the GXT Java controls to Javascript. Thoughts opinions ? -- - Stuart Kinnear Mobile: 040 704 5686. Office: 03 9589 6502 SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd acn. 81 072 778 262 PO Box 6082 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia Business software developers. SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office. - Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: [OT] Developer keyboard
Ø What's the real benefit to wireless keyboards? 1) You haven’t seen my desk at work. Once you get to a certain point, every additional wire increases clutter O(C^n). 2) For my main music workstation at home, the tower is far enough from the keyboard/mouse area that I can’t route the cabling cleanly without cutting holes in my desk or running the wires around the front. I tried USB extension leads but the 3-4 I tried had a tendency to stop responding intermittently or come unplugged too easily. 3) If you want the keyboard and mouse out of the way (eg you’re using a graphics tablet or perhaps not using the computer at all, just want the desk space for old fashioned pen on paper brainstorming) it’s much more convenient to pop them both in a drawer than finding somewhere to stick them subject to the usable reach of the cable (see: beginning of clutter). That’s my main three, and aside from more practical concerns it just looks cleaner. My main concern with a backlit wireless keyboard would be battery life but after having a wireless keyboard at home I wouldn’t use anything else there. At work the laptop is on the desk so cable reach is not such an issue but clutter still is. I only use a wired keyboard there because there isn’t exactly an abundance of mechanical tenkey-less wireless keyboards to choose from. (PS: FWIW ever since ball mice went the way of the dodo I’ve never had a mouse cable wear out on me before the buttons or optical/laser/etc sensor). From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Wednesday, 28 August 2013 4:26 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Developer keyboard On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Nathan Chere nathan.ch...@saiglobal.commailto:nathan.ch...@saiglobal.com wrote: If it was wireless and had an option for other keys (eg Cherry blue) it would be near perfect. Or at least if not wireless, have a built-in USB hub… but would definitely prefer wireless. What's the real benefit to wireless keyboards? Mice I understand, but you just don't have a need to move a keyboard. Mine is wireless, but the wireless point for it is an inch or so from the keyboard. Unless you're worried about electric shock during a thunderstorm... Mice, OTOH, the need is that the mouse cable wears out near the entry into the mouse. As it stands it really isn’t bringing anything overly compelling to the table which isn’t already done elsewhere. The dip switch behaviour is nice but still not enough of a selling point to make me choose that over the many alternatives. Reading it, this keyboard is backlit, but doesn't allow for changing layout electronically. I've seen some that consist of led/lcd keybacks that do though. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Richards Sent: Wednesday, 28 August 2013 3:06 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Developer keyboard Greetings all, I don't mean to resurrect this thread (especially since I already have my new keyboard) but I just saw this post which was an interesting coincidence: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2013/08/the-code-keyboard.html Thought some of you might be interested. David If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards... checkmate! -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama On 21 August 2013 16:56, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Careful looking/listening to things on YouTube. Last week a guy here at work was freaking out about the back light leakage on these fancy new IPS screens. I never noticed it, but when I took a photo of it with my phone camera the backlight was quite noticeable. I guess the camera takes in lots of light causing a kind of over exposure in the photo... It looks no where near how bad the photos posted online (or that I took) make the screen look. Its only noticeable in a dark room when looking at an all black screen (and even then to your naked eye its fine, but the photo looks like a brightly lit screen). He bought one anyway :) On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:46 PM, David Richards ausdot...@davidsuniverse.commailto:ausdot...@davidsuniverse.com wrote: It's louder than the Microsoft Digital Media Keyboard 1.0a I was using before. It sounds very similar to that video. It's a bit hard to tell if its louder or not since it kind of depended on how loud I set the volume :) But if it has the same switches its probably the same. It's much quieter than a clicky one I had some time ago. I think it actually depends on your typing style. If I'm careful and don't bottom out the keys it's much quieter. I think it would take a bit if practice to do that normally. David If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards... checkmate! -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama On 21 August 2013
RE: [OT] Developer keyboard
If it was wireless and had an option for other keys (eg Cherry blue) it would be near perfect. Or at least if not wireless, have a built-in USB hub... but would definitely prefer wireless. As it stands it really isn't bringing anything overly compelling to the table which isn't already done elsewhere. The dip switch behaviour is nice but still not enough of a selling point to make me choose that over the many alternatives. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Richards Sent: Wednesday, 28 August 2013 3:06 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Developer keyboard Greetings all, I don't mean to resurrect this thread (especially since I already have my new keyboard) but I just saw this post which was an interesting coincidence: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2013/08/the-code-keyboard.html Thought some of you might be interested. David If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards... checkmate! -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama On 21 August 2013 16:56, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Careful looking/listening to things on YouTube. Last week a guy here at work was freaking out about the back light leakage on these fancy new IPS screens. I never noticed it, but when I took a photo of it with my phone camera the backlight was quite noticeable. I guess the camera takes in lots of light causing a kind of over exposure in the photo... It looks no where near how bad the photos posted online (or that I took) make the screen look. Its only noticeable in a dark room when looking at an all black screen (and even then to your naked eye its fine, but the photo looks like a brightly lit screen). He bought one anyway :) On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:46 PM, David Richards ausdot...@davidsuniverse.commailto:ausdot...@davidsuniverse.com wrote: It's louder than the Microsoft Digital Media Keyboard 1.0a I was using before. It sounds very similar to that video. It's a bit hard to tell if its louder or not since it kind of depended on how loud I set the volume :) But if it has the same switches its probably the same. It's much quieter than a clicky one I had some time ago. I think it actually depends on your typing style. If I'm careful and don't bottom out the keys it's much quieter. I think it would take a bit if practice to do that normally. David If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards... checkmate! -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama On 21 August 2013 14:55, Peter Gfader pe...@gfader.commailto:pe...@gfader.com wrote: Nice keyboard! How loud is it? I bought the daskeyboard ultimate silent and I am not so happy with it. I got the silent one, but it is still too loud. I use it at home where no one else sits in my home office, but doing remote pairing or calls is not a nice experience... Here how loud that silent keyboard is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTrj9QMonts .peter.gfader. (current mood = warm sun makes my heart jump and puts a smile on my face) http://blog.gfader.com On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:26 AM, David Richards ausdot...@davidsuniverse.commailto:ausdot...@davidsuniverse.com wrote: I got it from mighty ape on sale but I'm pretty sure I saw it for similar prices elsewhere. The link below is for a cyborg branded one which is the same thing. mad catz own the cyborg brand. http://www.mightyape.com.au/product/Cyborg-MMO7-Gaming-Mouse/19700928/ David If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards... checkmate! -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama On 21 August 2013 14:19, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Where did you buy the mouse from? Looking about on my normal online stores, can't find that particular model. cheers, Stephen Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: Share File Between Two Servers
How many files are we talking? If it's a relatively small volume (ie a few Gb max) and they're not all over the place throughout the file system you could try creating a free Dropbox/Sugarsync/etc account, install on both machines, ?, and profit. Cheers, Nathan Chere - Software Developer (.NET) SAI Global Property | www.saiglobal.com/propertyhttp://www.saiglobal.com/property From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Saturday, 10 August 2013 1:01 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Share File Between Two Servers I used this program once at a LAN party, peer to peer file leeching... I did a quick search and found this. http://www.d-lan.net/ I don't recall if that was the actual program or not but the name seems familiar. If this one doesn't do it, you might find one similar that does if you search for similar... On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Corneliu I. Tusnea corne...@acorns.com.aumailto:corne...@acorns.com.au wrote: I don't have file sharing turned on which I think it means \C$ is not available. I don't have a domain. They are just two servers next to each other. On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Looks like its still there but you might have some issues with UAC if its turned on (reduced access for local admin accounts connecting remotely). I think the work around is to connect with either a domain account, or tun off UAC. If it causes an issue. For copying files you might be fine. On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Corneliu I. Tusnea corne...@acorns.com.aumailto:corne...@acorns.com.au wrote: Hi What's the best/safest way to share files between two servers. They are in the same location and have private IPs (10.0.40) but there are a bunch of other servers there so I don't want to open Network Discover Sharing. Thanks, Corneliu. Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: (friday off topic) Fast hardware
I'd put good SSDs as second only to big monitors and lots of them. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Friday, 12 July 2013 4:39 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: (friday off topic) Fast hardware +10 for mechanical keyboards. I got me one of these: http://www.razerzone.com/au-en/gaming-keyboards-keypads/razer-blackwidow-ultimate-stealth-2013/ and one of these: http://www.corsair.com/vengeance-k90-performance-mmo-mechanical-gaming-keyboard.html Takes some getting used to and you people can hear you typing from the neighbours house. (Even your neighbour would hear it Grant... lol) Hmm.. just reading there is a stealth edition (which I thought I had...) so the non stealth edition is probably even louder... unless I've just gotten the model I have wrong. On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Grant Maw grant@gmail.commailto:grant@gmail.com wrote: Another thing I have found that keeps me moving, albeit a lesser thing, is a decent keyboard. Particularly for us older fellows (I am looking at you Greg Keogh) who grew up on solid hardware instead of the flimsy plastic rubbish that gets sold these days, a decent keyboard boosts productivity off the wall. I just bought an Armour U9W wireless mechanical keyboard and it is the *best* I have used since my Uni days. It's heavy (you could belt nails in with it), feels great, is non-slip and has a range of over 20m. I can't imagine why one would want to be typing from 20m away - it's a bit like an art gallery in that respect (you never use it, but it's good to know that it's there). Cheers G On 12 July 2013 13:32, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Totally agree. I've taken work laptops and put my own SSD hard drive in them in the past (without asking for permission usually. They hire me trusting that I know what I'm doing, and I know that it will mean I won't be sitting about waiting for stuff to happen). I did some benchmarking on build times and found that I could do a build in about 5 to 10 minutes. The rest of the team were taking 15 minutes per build. Companies really need to wake up and realise a few hundred dollars will save them immeasurable volumes of wasted time. AND keep their staff happy. Arguably their best resource. So worth it. On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Preet Sangha preetsan...@gmail.commailto:preetsan...@gmail.com wrote: About 2 years ago I opted to purchase a laptop that was the fastest I could afford but not paying stupid money. My work these days is mostly heavy database work so every gram of performance helps. It has a Sandybridge I7 and 16G of Ram. The key thing that sold me this laptop was that it supports 2 x sata III hard drives.These I replaced with a RAID-0 pair of fast SSDs. Anyway the point of this email is not that I'm boasting but that I cannot ever imagine going back to working on slower hardware ever again. The experience of not waiting to rebooting the machine, opening apps like visual studio or rebooting virtual machines in mere seconds (in fact I built a new Windows7 VM in about 6 minutes from scratch) . If I can recommend anything to fellow dev,s especially those that do the paid time consultancy, is that please don't cripple yourself with bad tools. -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: Server-side data to JavaScript
I just use something like this at the top of my view when I need to expose data to an external Javascript and don't want redundant server calls after page load: @model Example.Domain.WhateverViewmodel script type=text/javascript var viewModel = @Html.Raw(Json.Encode(Model)); /script From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2013 2:51 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Server-side data to JavaScript Guys, even MORE frameworks! After following the links I decided to inject the JavaScript values into the page on PreRender. I just can't handle learning anymore frameworks. I'm currently inside Kentico (to make things much worse) and I'm still trying figure out which of the ~320 jQuery properties and objects are useful to me. So injecting JavaScript is the easy way out for now. Greg Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: HTML5 capabilities
Let's say you want to use Visual Studio and target at least 2 platforms (Android and iOS). I would expect that's the most common scenario. That's $2,000 per developer. Not pocket change at all. Also assuming even 'Indies' much less professionals would often be at least two developers, it doesn't take much imagination to see a ~$5,000+ investment. If you're comparing to Visual Studio Ultimate then you should also be comparing to Xamarin's Enterprise licenses which is then $4,000 per developer to target 2 platforms, ON TOP of your Visual Studio etc licenses. Unless you're a solo Indie developer who is content to use Xamarin Studio and only targeting one platform, it's expensive - which isn't a measure of price alone but what you're getting for your money. Regardless, my primary objection to Xamarin isn't the cost. It's the licensing baked into the run-time. I've been burnt too many times by frameworks with licensing checks when they're no longer supported (or are supported half-arsedly from the outset - eg Marmalade) If Xamarin would release their MonoDroid/MonoTouch/etc frameworks without the DRM (or at least move it solely to the development environment instead of run-time) it would be a different story but as it stands I refuse to make any significant investment in such an ecosystem again and would encourage others to avoid it for the same reasons. I also consider their track record for transparency about feature roadmaps and timelines. Xamarin are great at talking about what they've already released, not so great about what's coming up and feature requests. Not that Microsoft are perfect but other than for a few stand-out examples (eg XNA, x64 edit-and-continue now 8-9 years and counting) they're pretty good considering the scope of what they offer. There's also a much better community around Visual Studio which fills in a lot of the gaps when Microsoft drops the ball which Xamarin Studio simply doesn't have - another consideration in determining how 'expensive' it is (Resharper anyone?). An alternative to consider is PhoneGap. In keeping with the tradition of spontaneous statistics, I'd guess maybe 80-90% of the things people are using Mono for could be just as effectively done with PhoneGap and still give the benefit of cross-platform 'native' apps with very minimal learning curve compared to learning Objective-C, Java etc. And it's free. If you're writing a typical app and not relying on anything like MonoGame over the top of Mono, I think the trade-off of using Javascript instead of C# for the client is minor and well worth it. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Monday, 1 July 2013 11:17 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: HTML5 capabilities I disagree that it is expensive. Visual Studio Ultimate is expensive. Xamarin is a tenth of the cost, and comparable with other vendors. Telerik for example. Oh you wanted Free? You could just write for all three of those platforms manually, and learn each different platform's syntax. (something I decided NOT to do some years ago, for the want of not spreading my knowledge too thin an becoming a jack of all trades, master of none.) Personally, I'd grab the Free version (that they do have), play with that until you get a feel if its going to fit the bill. (you never really know until you take it for a spin). Then upgrade and consider it an investment. You are a software developer and you need tools. If you were a carpenter, would you skimp on spending $1000 on your carpentry tools? Would you buy the crappy cheap tools or get the higher priced tools, knowing the quality of your work will be that much better? Fill your toolbox with quality tools. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Looks interesting. Testing would be a pain, you'd need to have a device of each platform. Oh wait. I already do. :) On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Fredericks, Chris chris.frederi...@hp.commailto:chris.frederi...@hp.com wrote: +1 for Xamarin - Full native code, cross platform development for Windows, Android, iOS and Mac OS X in C#. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Michael Ridland Sent: Monday, 1 July 2013 9:51 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: HTML5 capabilities Hi Greg We've spent the last 18 months building a mobile version of our ERP software @ www.happen.bizhttp://www.happen.biz. About 9 months of that was using html5 which we pushed to it's limits but in the end it just wasn't 'good' enough, by good enough I mean primarily fast enough. We tried out Xamarin and never looked back, we now have a rock solid mobile app which is fast and sexy. So my opinion is Xamarin Rocks. Great for c# teams. Grids, splitters, trees, drag-and-drop, animated charts - well this
RE: Static resources in MVC 4
It would be easier if you provide all your route setup, not just that one line
in isolation.
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Found a bug i think...
If i have a ignore
routes.IgnoreRoute(members/{*pathInfo})
It will show all files except if there is a directory that is a no?
Eg
http://localhost:3027/members/11366/hello.gif'The resource cannot be found.
http://localhost:3027/members/hello/hello.gif 'Works
Something i am doing wrong?
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set
the RouteCollection's RouteExistingFiles property to true. (It's false by
default.)
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RE: [OT] My New Pluralsight Course
Pretty sure unsolicited advertisement does classify as spamming, regardless of volume. Not that it really bothers me in this instance, as it’s not completely out of nowhere and it is just one email. But WT’s call is fair enough too. If you choose to resort to spam to get the word out for whatever you’re trying to flog, you need to accept the bad will that comes with it. Since you are in the business of charity, let share where you spend your lunch times so those so inclined can best co-ordinate their cardboard signs. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Thursday, 20 June 2013 9:53 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] My New Pluralsight Course Pretty sure one email doesn't classify as spamming. Personally, I think if someone in our community produces anything they are proud of and want to share with us, they should be encouraged. If said emails were to become a regular thing then you could politely ask them to stop (off list preferably). Since you are in the business of begging, could you please make yourself a cardboard sign or something so we can all give you free stuff as we pass you in the street. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Wallace Turner wallace.tur...@gmail.commailto:wallace.tur...@gmail.com wrote: since you are in the business of spamming the list could you provide a free copy of your content please? On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:11 AM, jasi...@yahoo.co.ukmailto:jasi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi all, My new Pluralsight course has just been released “Automated Testing: End to End” http://bit.ly/pstesting We shouldn't live in fear of our code. Long-term customer satisfaction, product agility, and developer happiness are crucial. A quality suite of automated tests helps achieve this. This practical course covers how and what to test at the unit, integration, and functional UI levels; and how to bring them all together with continuous integration build server. Hope wherever you are in Oz you’re having a great morning Cheers Jason Sent from Windows Mail Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: Message Queing
RabbitMQ works great. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Corneliu I. Tusnea Sent: Friday, 21 June 2013 11:48 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Message Queing Hi, Anyone can recommend a good message queuing system that works well with .Net? I'm only aware of ActiveMQ and MSMQ. I know ActiveMQ is Java based and I want to stay away from MSMQ as previous experiences were not that positive. Azure is not an option as I need this to run internally. Thanks, Corneliu. Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: Is Surface really failing? (tangent # 99)
If you don’t like the ribbon UI (the vast majority of people I know, techie or otherwise, don’t) the only real option is sticking with Office 2003. If you do anything that involves add-ins or custom macros, Office has been a relative pain in the ass to work with since 2007. From more of a ‘power user’ perspective, if you prefer to work with virtualised environments a complete and snappy XP + Office 2003 will cost you 2-3Gb at most and can be stripped down to under 700Mb total without too much work, while a basic Win8 install with Office 2013 will set you back roughly 10Gb. If you use Powerpoint and Access extensively your mileage may vary but other than for a few minor niceties in Outlook I can’t think of a single ‘killer feature’ added to the core Office programs (ie Word, Excel and Outlook) between Office 2003 and Office 2013 which even remotely compels me to upgrade if the licenses weren’t included anyway with my MSDN subscription (maybe faster large file handling in 64 bit versions?). The only significant reason that I upgrade is OneNote. Other than for that I’d be perfectly happy sticking with 2003, ‘supported’ or not (and when’s the last time Microsoft consumer-level support provided anything of value anyway?) Speaking solely from a user perspective, it’s not that dissimilar to the Win8 situation. Why expect people to re-learn what they already know how to do more efficiently for the sole sake of ‘keeping up’? Where’s the benefit to the user? *disclaimer – if not for multi-core CPUs, 4Gb RAM and most hardware vendors not maintaining (or releasing at all) relevant XP drivers, I’d also be happy to continue using Windows XP. That apparently makes me a luddite? I just figure if it ain’t broke… From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: Monday, 13 May 2013 3:52 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Is Surface really failing? (tangent # 99) Say that again? There are still people using Office ’03? We have to get them out of the dark ages and get them up to supported Office levels! From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:05 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Is Surface really failing? (tangent # 99) THis is just for Office-in-the-cloud, right? There's a lot of customers out there that use and love Office 2003. On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Katherine Moss katherine.m...@gordon.edumailto:katherine.m...@gordon.edu wrote: I mean the new office model using what’s it called, Napa or something like that? That doesn’t use .net at all, and they are calling the existing development model legacy already. So Microsoft seems to prefer that folks now do all of their development for office via HTML instead of via .net. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:20 AM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: Is Surface really failing? (tangent # 99) This must be the most divergent tangent from the original topic, but here goes: It is not related to HTML support (would that have changed, I wonder?) but my guess is that it is because the legacy 3rd-party add-ins for Office would be largely VBA add-ins or perhaps C++ COM add ins (not ever written as .NET with the aid of the PIAs for the various Office releases). Meski’s short response was sufficient explanation. It is hard to move forward when you are forced to support quite old legacy applications. If some small business or individual is used to running (for example) an Outlook add-in from 4Team, which may have been updated to support Outlook 97 through to Outlook 2013 – but not the 64-bit versions of Office - then what would you expect Microsoft (or software publisher X – eg, Apple) to do? In my view, it would be helpful to suggest that the 32-bit version may be preferable, if that is what Microsoft recommends somewhere. Those with more technical advice or knowledge would make a judgement whether the 64-bit version of say Excel might be better suited for their use - perhaps to support huge spreadsheets? But many users would be pleased enough with 32-bit versions. I’m not sure what you mean by stupid HTML crap. Do you mean XML-based object model in the .docx, .xlsx (etc) file formats? Personally, I wouldn’t complain about Microsoft’s ,NET support for Office development, in the 2009 to 1013 time frame. I think it’s pretty good. Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 12:40 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Is Surface really failing? Oh LOL. I never thought of that. I mean, Microsoft has just ruined NET
RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?
Pointless question without saying what you want to do with it. For my money there's no reason to get a Surface RT at all and very few reasons for a Surface Pro. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of James Chapman-Smith Sent: Tuesday, 2 April 2013 10:50 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? Hi Folks, I'm thinking about getting myself either a Surface RT or a Surface Pro (or maybe some other alternative). Every time I think about it I convince myself that one is better than the other but then the next time I flip. What are everyone's thoughts? Should I get a Surface RT or a Surface Pro? Should I get a surface at all? How much memory should I get? I thank you for your well thought out ideas in advance. Cheers. James. Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
RE: (sorry slightly off topic) Laptop Backpack
Standbags has a Navarro backpack for about AU$40 which survived roughly 600km of backpacking and music festivals while protecting a 15 laptop, external hard drive and DSLR +lenses. Handled travelling much better than a Targus pack I paid 3-4x as much for on my last trip. Still using it as my day pack for work now, only major wear is the mesh water bottle nets on the side. I'm pretty sure they have stores in NZ as well, don't know if they'd have the same stock but worth a shot. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Preet Sangha Sent: Tuesday, 5 March 2013 7:36 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: (sorry slightly off topic) Laptop Backpack I need a new laptop bag (the previous one that came with MSI Laptop has has finally given up the ghost). Does anyone here walk or cycle distances (I'm doing 15k a day) carrying their laptop in a backpack? If so would you recommend you case? Ideally I need enough space to pack a towel and a bit of running gear too :-) yes I know I probably need a military style burgen but no I'm not getting one of those. -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ== to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com
