Re: Refreshing an SL4 app (client problem?)

2011-09-08 Thread Peter Gfader
+1  to Stephen

I found this in my blog post draft folder


body

form id=form1 runat=server style=height:100%

div id=silverlightControlHost

object data=data:application/x-silverlight-2,
type=application/x-silverlight-2 width=100% height=100%

%

const string filename =
@ClientBin/SilverlightApplication2.xap;

string version = (new
System.IO.FileInfo(Server.MapPath(filename))).LastWriteTime.ToString(MMddhhmmss);

Response.Write( param name=\source\ value=\ + filename
+ ? + version + \ /);

%

  param name=onError value=onSilverlightError /

  param name=background value=white /

  param name=minRuntimeVersion value=4.0.50826.0 /

  param name=autoUpgrade value=true /

  a href=
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=149156v=4.0.50826.0;
style=text-decoration:none

   img src=http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=161376;
alt=Get Microsoft Silverlight style=border-style:none/

  /a

/objectiframe id=_sl_historyFrame
style=visibility:hidden;height:0px;width:0px;border:0px/iframe/div

/form

/body




And add at the top of that ASPX, in order to avoid caching of the hosting
ASPX



%

Response.Expires = -1;

Response.AddHeader(Pragma, no-cache);

Response.AddHeader(cache-control, no-store);

%



.peter.gfader. (current mood = happy)

http://blog.gfader.com




On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.comwrote:

 Ah didn't see this other thread.

 If you use the last modified time of the xap file then you will download
 the new version and if its updated then you automatically get the new one,
 but don't download it every time (which would happen if the url was
 different on every page load.)
 you only want the client to download it if the xap file has changed. put
 the modified date/time in the url and forget about it. move on to more
 interesting problems. :)

 On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:


 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2281919/expiry-silverlight-xap-file-from-browser-cache-programmatically
 

 ** **

 Interesting ... some solutions are browser specific, some need code and
 maintenance. Adding the “Cache-Control: no-cache” header seems the easiest
 by far, so I’ll try it out at the app level (it’s under the IIS – HTTP
 Response Headers). I’m not feeling confident.

 ** **

 Greg

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RE: Refreshing an SL4 app (client problem?)

2011-09-08 Thread Jake Ginnivan
I have used this approach too. I actually have a Build.txt in the root of the 
application, and set the build number in the web.config and I use:

App.xap?v=2.0.0.1

The query string difference is also enough to invalidate the cache, and it can 
be put into the build process easily and only invalidates on a new build.

Regards,
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From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Simon Hammer
Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2011 12:07 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Refreshing an SL4 app (client problem?)

Hi Greg,

Funny, I was dealing with this today

We handle this by having a version number in the xap filename (eg. 
SLAppName1.5.2.xap).  This way whenever a new build goes on production, we know 
browsers will referencing the correct one.

Simon.

From: Chris Anderson 
[mailto:christheco...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:christheco...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2011 2:02 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Refreshing an SL4 app (client problem?)

It's because the browser is caching the app, and your IIS probably doesn't set 
any cache expiry headers.  Here's some info:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2281919/expiry-silverlight-xap-file-from-browser-cache-programmatically

Chris

On 8 September 2011 13:58, Greg Keogh g...@mira.netmailto:g...@mira.net 
wrote:
Well I should have asked my cat, because I browsed to the SL4 app from the 
outside world and it was the latest version. When browsing from my work machine 
I see the old version. So I restart my localhost IIS and delete temporary files 
in the browser, but it makes no difference. As an administrator I delete all 
local v2 and v4 ASP.NEThttp://ASP.NET temporary files and restart IIS, now 
it's fixed.

So it looks like the problem was on my client side, not on the server machine 
side. I'm not sure which step fixed the problem, but it *might* have been 
deleting the local temporary files.

Greg

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Re: Re: Refreshing an SL4 app

2011-09-08 Thread mgardineros

A lazy way to avoid this is to always rename the xap file each version.

Alternatively, In IIS you can specify the no-cache header for the xap file,  
however that means that it is always downloaded even when you would prefer  
the user gets a cached one (from either their browser cache, asp.net cache,  
or proxy caches etc along the way).


Another way which I am pretty sure works but I haven't used for a while, is  
to add a dummy param to your silverlight object in html / aspx eg :


param name=source value=ClientBin/SomeApplication.xap?ver=23/

Everytime you release a new version, change ver= to a new value, which will  
prevent caching issues.



On , Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.com wrote:
hehe, re-read your email and you did say it was SL4 app, so yeah, its  
probably what I said. :)


On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.com  
wrote:



sounds like it may be the client machine caching the xap file.


If that is your problem, if you clear the cache on the client machine and  
it then downloads the new xap file then the fix for this (one I've used  
anyway) is to append the modified date/time to the end of the url.



So basically when ever the xap file is updated then the browser will  
think its been given a new url and so downloads it (and caches that new  
one.). Same app, but different/unique url.




I'm assuming its a Silverlight app, given you've posted it here. :)





if you can't find example code of appending the modified date let me  
know, I've got it kicking around somewhere at home. I'm sure its out  
there tho.




cheers,




Stephen




On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:






Folks, I have this random problem where I xcopy deploy all of my app  
files over to my Win2008 server box and the updated SL4 app doesn't  
appear, I get the previous version.


I have spent hours over the previous months trying to figure this problem  
out. I restart IIS, I even reboot, I delete the 'Temporary ASP.NET Files'  
folders and I do a voodoo dance, but nothing will make the new app  
appear. Sometimes after another wasted half hour of stuffing around it  
suddenly comes good. But as is the new tradition of software development:  
I don't know what went wrong and I don't know what goes right.



Anyone else suffered this and sorted it out? Greg








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Refreshing an SL4 app

2011-09-07 Thread Greg Keogh
Folks, I have this random problem where I xcopy deploy all of my app files
over to my Win2008 server box and the updated SL4 app doesn't appear, I get
the previous version.

 

I have spent hours over the previous months trying to figure this problem
out. I restart IIS, I even reboot, I delete the 'Temporary ASP.NET Files'
folders and I do a voodoo dance, but nothing will make the new app appear.
Sometimes after another wasted half hour of stuffing around it suddenly
comes good. But as is the new tradition of software development: I don't
know what went wrong and I don't know what goes right.

 

Anyone else suffered this and sorted it out?

 

Greg

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Refreshing an SL4 app (client problem?)

2011-09-07 Thread Greg Keogh
Well I should have asked my cat, because I browsed to the SL4 app from the
outside world and it was the latest version. When browsing from my work
machine I see the old version. So I restart my localhost IIS and delete
temporary files in the browser, but it makes no difference. As an
administrator I delete all local v2 and v4 ASP.NET temporary files and
restart IIS, now it's fixed.

 

So it looks like the problem was on my client side, not on the server
machine side. I'm not sure which step fixed the problem, but it *might* have
been deleting the local temporary files.

 

Greg

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RE: Refreshing an SL4 app (client problem?)

2011-09-07 Thread Greg Keogh
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2281919/expiry-silverlight-xap-file-from-
browser-cache-programmatically

 

Interesting ... some solutions are browser specific, some need code and
maintenance. Adding the Cache-Control: no-cache header seems the easiest
by far, so I'll try it out at the app level (it's under the IIS - HTTP
Response Headers). I'm not feeling confident.

 

Greg

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Re: Refreshing an SL4 app

2011-09-07 Thread Stephen Price
hehe, re-read your email and you did say it was SL4 app, so yeah, its
probably what I said. :)

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.comwrote:

 sounds like it may be the client machine caching the xap file.

 If that is your problem, if you clear the cache on the client machine and
 it then downloads the new xap file then the fix for this (one I've used
 anyway) is to append the modified date/time to the end of the url.
 So basically when ever the xap file is updated then the browser will think
 its been given a new url and so downloads it (and caches that new one.).
 Same app, but different/unique url.

 I'm assuming its a Silverlight app, given you've posted it here. :)

 if you can't find example code of appending the modified date let me know,
 I've got it kicking around somewhere at home. I'm sure its out there tho.

 cheers,
 Stephen

 On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

 Folks, I have this random problem where I xcopy deploy all of my app files
 over to my Win2008 server box and the updated SL4 app doesn’t appear, I get
 the previous version.

 ** **

 I have spent hours over the previous months trying to figure this problem
 out. I restart IIS, I even reboot, I delete the ‘Temporary ASP.NET Files’
 folders and I do a voodoo dance, but nothing will make the new app appear.
 Sometimes after another wasted half hour of stuffing around it suddenly
 comes good. But as is the new tradition of software development: I don’t
 know what went wrong and I don’t know what goes right.

 ** **

 Anyone else suffered this and sorted it out?

 ** **

 Greg

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