Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
I think you were to quick to judge the speaker in the first place, to just listen or read one or two reviews from access world is not enough. You should also investigate furder than that. Sometimes some of those reviews don't contain enough info, like the latest review I red on the ptn2. Maybe you should go find a demo and here it out. Its defnitly better than the older model, not sure how it compare to plextalk, but anything better than the older model I consider as an improvement. I agree about your remarks about the mountbatten though. Its just that it would be crazy to buy a voice sense if your main goal would be to use it to listen books. Not really smart as a NoteTaker is ment to do so much more. On 23/09/2013, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Thanks for that and I do appreciate your comments regarding the sound of the internal speaker, I'll investigate again. On 23/09/2013, at 11:02 AM, Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com wrote: No, Dane. I was suggesting that the revision distributed by HW after the review you read apparently improved the speaker quality. Like you, I assume that the quality before then was bad. That review made me balk at buying the new Stream until I read about the improvements and spoke to an HW tech guy who sounded honest and reliable. Everyone who has heard my Stream speaker is impressed, considering its size. I find HW to be responsive to user suggestions, and they seem to incorporate them pretty quickly. I believe Aidan's and other lister comments make a good case for the Stream as a first-rate device for reading books and other materials. You can pause it on the proverbial dime, fast-forward and rewind in reliable increments, set bookmarks and so much more. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 6:28 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Nothing like hands-on experience, so the sound from the internal speaker of the Victor Reader Stream isn't muffled? I wonder why the reviewer then said it was/ Don't get me wrong, I'm not doubting what you're saying as you own a machine but I wonder if the Plextalk Pocket or the Booksense sounds better. Anything could sound better than that awful internal speaker on the older victor Reader stream model, that was something right out of the absolutely awful basket but then again, with NFB - No Friends Of The Blind - having input into the design? Well one really couldn't expect all that much better. On 23/09/2013, at 7:40 AM, Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com wrote: Appended to that Accessworld article was HumanWare's response in which they thank the reviewer for the suggestions and promise upcoming revisions to address them. HW has since put out a revision that was on the new Stream when I bought mine. The sound from the speaker is not muffled. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:08 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Okay, since this thread has drifted so far away from the Victor Reader Stream I thought I'd offer my 2 cents worth regarding Talking Book players. Regarding the Victor Reader Stream? Well I doubt I'll be getting one as the machine offers me nothing whatever I don't have accept for an extra hole burnt in my pocket I don't need. My assessment is based on 2 reviews I've read over the last few months in the Access World publication and the reviews presented in Access World are very independent in nature and presentation so I feel I'm reliable informed. I understand that several bugs in the new victor Reader Stream model have been a-dressed but this fact alone still won't convince me to buy a Stream, what convinces me not to buy one is the statement in the review articles that the speaker of the Stream - whilst far better than that found on the older model - is still muffled. As it happens I was in the right place at the right time and managed to purchase a VoiceSense at a perfectly reasonable price, the seller no longer required its use as he had fully migrated to an IOS setup. The Voicesense alone in my view is the best talking book player I've ever owned offering a Daisy player and support for just about every other audio format on the planet, you can even stream radio stations to it if they have an MP3, AAC or WMA stream. Now I know a new Voicesense isn't cheap but the price has come down considerably so given that fact and that the Voicesense has been specifically designed with accessibility in mind? Well all I say is that if you can manage to get your hands on one of these machines you'll be doing yourself a huge favour. I like the attitude of Hims Inc, the idea seems to be to allow the Sense machines to
RE: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
I believe the new Stream is a good alternative for those users that find the Plextor Pocket navigation and menus to complicated. I feel there are benefits to owning both devices if you can afford too. I am looking forward to the Plextor Pocket Linio being available in Australia for the Daisy Online Delivery so that Australians can stream or download daisy books and newspapers and magazines from Vision Australia. Jamie -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Sent: Monday, 23 September 2013 6:04 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? I think you were to quick to judge the speaker in the first place, to just listen or read one or two reviews from access world is not enough. You should also investigate furder than that. Sometimes some of those reviews don't contain enough info, like the latest review I red on the ptn2. Maybe you should go find a demo and here it out. Its defnitly better than the older model, not sure how it compare to plextalk, but anything better than the older model I consider as an improvement. I agree about your remarks about the mountbatten though. Its just that it would be crazy to buy a voice sense if your main goal would be to use it to listen books. Not really smart as a NoteTaker is ment to do so much more. On 23/09/2013, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Thanks for that and I do appreciate your comments regarding the sound of the internal speaker, I'll investigate again. On 23/09/2013, at 11:02 AM, Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com wrote: No, Dane. I was suggesting that the revision distributed by HW after the review you read apparently improved the speaker quality. Like you, I assume that the quality before then was bad. That review made me balk at buying the new Stream until I read about the improvements and spoke to an HW tech guy who sounded honest and reliable. Everyone who has heard my Stream speaker is impressed, considering its size. I find HW to be responsive to user suggestions, and they seem to incorporate them pretty quickly. I believe Aidan's and other lister comments make a good case for the Stream as a first-rate device for reading books and other materials. You can pause it on the proverbial dime, fast-forward and rewind in reliable increments, set bookmarks and so much more. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 6:28 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Nothing like hands-on experience, so the sound from the internal speaker of the Victor Reader Stream isn't muffled? I wonder why the reviewer then said it was/ Don't get me wrong, I'm not doubting what you're saying as you own a machine but I wonder if the Plextalk Pocket or the Booksense sounds better. Anything could sound better than that awful internal speaker on the older victor Reader stream model, that was something right out of the absolutely awful basket but then again, with NFB - No Friends Of The Blind - having input into the design? Well one really couldn't expect all that much better. On 23/09/2013, at 7:40 AM, Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com wrote: Appended to that Accessworld article was HumanWare's response in which they thank the reviewer for the suggestions and promise upcoming revisions to address them. HW has since put out a revision that was on the new Stream when I bought mine. The sound from the speaker is not muffled. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:08 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Okay, since this thread has drifted so far away from the Victor Reader Stream I thought I'd offer my 2 cents worth regarding Talking Book players. Regarding the Victor Reader Stream? Well I doubt I'll be getting one as the machine offers me nothing whatever I don't have accept for an extra hole burnt in my pocket I don't need. My assessment is based on 2 reviews I've read over the last few months in the Access World publication and the reviews presented in Access World are very independent in nature and presentation so I feel I'm reliable informed. I understand that several bugs in the new victor Reader Stream model have been a-dressed but this fact alone still won't convince me to buy a Stream, what convinces me not to buy one is the statement in the review articles that the speaker of the Stream - whilst far better than that found on the older model - is still muffled. As it happens I was in the right place at the right time and managed to purchase a VoiceSense at a perfectly reasonable price, the seller no longer required its use as he had fully migrated to an IOS setup. The
Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
Hi, there for the booksense is better Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Aidan Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 11:20 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Cc: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? The voice sense have older hardware. Not good enough and con't be compaired to other players as its a notetaker. Sent from my iPhone On 22 Sep 2013, at 22:42, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! Hmm, booksense locks up and i have to do a reset. /A 22 sep 2013 kl. 19:47 skrev Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net: It could be that the pairing is different from most bluetooth devices. there are some devices that have a different way of pairing to the booksense. what happens when you try and pair the logetec to the booksense? - Original Message - From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:21 AM Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? HI, Oh sad to hear, but there are so many Bluetooth profiles out there. It works perfectly on a Bose bluetooth speaker bar. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Anders Holmberg Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:05 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Hi! I have the booksens and i love it. Sadly my logitech headset seems not to work with the booksense. /A 21 sep 2013 kl. 21:45 skrev Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk: Hi, Another more interesting unit is the one from Hims International. It's called book sence. This one you can connect to a speaker system via bluetooth. It has an FM radio and is loaded with tons of other useful nice features. But the Victor Stream 2 you asked about also is a very nice daisy player. The new version even has stereo recording. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:30 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? Excellent summary, Aidan. I have the new Stream, but I haven't tested all the features you mention, including the Wi-Fi connection. I'd add a few notes. First, the new Stream reports how much battery charge is left in percentage terms, and also how much power has been restored during recharge. Second, when you move from shelf to shelf, the Stream remembers where you were in each one even after the unit is powered down. On the old device, the Stream remembered only where you had been when the unit shut down, but not where you'd been on each shelf. Third, for NLS users, the new Stream moves faster between titles at level 1. Fourth, the speaker is significantly louder and clearer. Fifth, the unit is smaller. As I recall, HumanWare says it's smaller by a third. I didn't think it would matter, but it does. My sixth point could go either way. The buttons are much more sensitive. The drawback is that if I move while carrying the Stream on its strap and it even lightly touches clothing or something else, a button is certain to be pressed, interrupting my reading and forcing me to press a key or two to get things going again. Despite this occasional annoyance, I like how responsive the keys are. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:09 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream? I am going to by mine next month if all goes wel. I think the new stream could've been a bit better, but there are enough bennifits for me at least. First off, the old stream does only charch on the adapter. No USB charching of any kind is supported. And that is sick in the time we live in. So now the new stream does not just support charching via USB, but it also charch with a pere USB adapter and only have one port wich dubble as both an charching and connection port. The thing I like about the new interface however, is that you can now charch and listen wile its connected to the pc. Connect it wile the unit is turned on, and it will charch and stil be able to play and be usable. Turn it off and connect and turn back on again and the pc will see it as a mass storage device like the old stream did. I am also sick and tired of stupid Samantha and tom drink to much wisky and so the newer acapela voices are more than usable. They really are what I can use for long hours of reading. I love the fact that now on the new stream you can set the sleep timer in custom incriments according to your set time, and not only the presets they always allowed. And the way the clock works is also very unique. They seprit the clock menus from the regular player menu. That is ausom! Also the fact that all features are now available on the unit without the need for a softpack installation. And now it can do line in recording. It no longer support recording of 3gp but mp3 and wave only. That is just fine. As
BlueRay Players
Hi! This subject is of great interest to me, I've built a Hi-Fi system for the den and I'm still looking around for a decent and flexible Blueray player. I was listening to the tech show on KFWB ad a caller came in with exactly the same sort of question I have, Can You recommend a good BlueRay player? and the answer was a Sony Play Station III. I can understand the presenters thinking here, the Play Station III has plenty of processing power and is updated frequently by Sony, all fair points. Having never seen a Play station III I'm wondering if others have seen them and can perhaps give a brief description, I'm of the understanding that the size of a Play Station III is around the size of a typical set top box, is that right? Can the Play Station be controlled to play Blueray Discs from a remote control unit or perhaps buttons on the front? ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: BlueRay Players
Hi. I've purchased the Arcam BDP300 Blue-Ray player. It is a good machine, large in dimentions but very high spec and very high in price. Here in the UK it retails at £999. Walter. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 23 September 2013 19:07 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: BlueRay Players Hi! This subject is of great interest to me, I've built a Hi-Fi system for the den and I'm still looking around for a decent and flexible Blueray player. I was listening to the tech show on KFWB ad a caller came in with exactly the same sort of question I have, Can You recommend a good BlueRay player? and the answer was a Sony Play Station III. I can understand the presenters thinking here, the Play Station III has plenty of processing power and is updated frequently by Sony, all fair points. Having never seen a Play station III I'm wondering if others have seen them and can perhaps give a brief description, I'm of the understanding that the size of a Play Station III is around the size of a typical set top box, is that right? Can the Play Station be controlled to play Blueray Discs from a remote control unit or perhaps buttons on the front? ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: BlueRay Players
While the PS3 may sound attractive, for us in Australia the questions that are probably more relevant are: will the player play disks from all regions and is it affordable? I say this because I am regretting that I bought a Sony blu-ray player that plays Region 3 disks beautifully but won't play disks from any other region. So, have a look at the Laser BD10803D at the following link: http://www.laserco.net/products/audio-visual/dvd-players/BLU-BD10803D Bob Nelson - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 4:07 AM Subject: BlueRay Players Hi! This subject is of great interest to me, I've built a Hi-Fi system for the den and I'm still looking around for a decent and flexible Blueray player. I was listening to the tech show on KFWB ad a caller came in with exactly the same sort of question I have, Can You recommend a good BlueRay player? and the answer was a Sony Play Station III. I can understand the presenters thinking here, the Play Station III has plenty of processing power and is updated frequently by Sony, all fair points. Having never seen a Play station III I'm wondering if others have seen them and can perhaps give a brief description, I'm of the understanding that the size of a Play Station III is around the size of a typical set top box, is that right? Can the Play Station be controlled to play Blueray Discs from a remote control unit or perhaps buttons on the front? ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: BlueRay Players
That's the point of the Sony Play Station III in that the device can be easily updated? I'm not saying I've settled on the idea of the play Station III as yet. On 24/09/2013, at 5:31 AM, Robert Nelson rsnel...@optusnet.com.au wrote: While the PS3 may sound attractive, for us in Australia the questions that are probably more relevant are: will the player play disks from all regions and is it affordable? I say this because I am regretting that I bought a Sony blu-ray player that plays Region 3 disks beautifully but won't play disks from any other region. So, have a look at the Laser BD10803D at the following link: http://www.laserco.net/products/audio-visual/dvd-players/BLU-BD10803D Bob Nelson - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 4:07 AM Subject: BlueRay Players Hi! This subject is of great interest to me, I've built a Hi-Fi system for the den and I'm still looking around for a decent and flexible Blueray player. I was listening to the tech show on KFWB ad a caller came in with exactly the same sort of question I have, Can You recommend a good BlueRay player? and the answer was a Sony Play Station III. I can understand the presenters thinking here, the Play Station III has plenty of processing power and is updated frequently by Sony, all fair points. Having never seen a Play station III I'm wondering if others have seen them and can perhaps give a brief description, I'm of the understanding that the size of a Play Station III is around the size of a typical set top box, is that right? Can the Play Station be controlled to play Blueray Discs from a remote control unit or perhaps buttons on the front? ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: BlueRay Players
All i can say is Enjoy! Onkyo make some absolutely super stuff, have an Onkyo T9090 tuner here. On 24/09/2013, at 5:17 AM, Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Hi. I've purchased the Arcam BDP300 Blue-Ray player. It is a good machine, large in dimentions but very high spec and very high in price. Here in the UK it retails at £999. Walter. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 23 September 2013 19:07 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: BlueRay Players Hi! This subject is of great interest to me, I've built a Hi-Fi system for the den and I'm still looking around for a decent and flexible Blueray player. I was listening to the tech show on KFWB ad a caller came in with exactly the same sort of question I have, Can You recommend a good BlueRay player? and the answer was a Sony Play Station III. I can understand the presenters thinking here, the Play Station III has plenty of processing power and is updated frequently by Sony, all fair points. Having never seen a Play station III I'm wondering if others have seen them and can perhaps give a brief description, I'm of the understanding that the size of a Play Station III is around the size of a typical set top box, is that right? Can the Play Station be controlled to play Blueray Discs from a remote control unit or perhaps buttons on the front? ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Please recommend sound card for Win 7 PC
It's time for me to buy a new sound card for my Windows 7 PC. I intend to use it with my Behringer 4 channel mixer. This is not a professional set-up, I'm just a hobbyist but want good quality. I'm learning as I go here so your helpful input is much appreciated. Later, Norma To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: BlueRay Players
If you've seen the receiver of a Bose Lifestyle system, then that's what a PS3 is like. Now, as for controlling it, yes you can from the remote, and I'm not too sure about the front. I can ask though. I can't tell you what this feels like since I haven't done it. I do have a regular Sony BD Player, and it's just like any DVD player use to be. Now, If PS is the way you think you want to go, then why not weight for the PS4? Or even the X Box 1 now I think of it. Whilst we are on this subject, may I just bring it back to PC for a moment? I want to rant about Power DVD. It's not accessible any more. The newer it gets, the worse it gets. Well, at least now you can start the movie, kind of, and you can pause should you have to go to the bathroom or something. But You can't skim threw the movie, and as far as I recall, you can't skip chapters. So much for using a Home Theater PC for Blu-Ray. Now, some say VLC can play BDs' is that so? Has any one here tried it? -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 2:07 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: BlueRay Players Hi! This subject is of great interest to me, I've built a Hi-Fi system for the den and I'm still looking around for a decent and flexible Blueray player. I was listening to the tech show on KFWB ad a caller came in with exactly the same sort of question I have, Can You recommend a good BlueRay player? and the answer was a Sony Play Station III. I can understand the presenters thinking here, the Play Station III has plenty of processing power and is updated frequently by Sony, all fair points. Having never seen a Play station III I'm wondering if others have seen them and can perhaps give a brief description, I'm of the understanding that the size of a Play Station III is around the size of a typical set top box, is that right? Can the Play Station be controlled to play Blueray Discs from a remote control unit or perhaps buttons on the front? ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org