Re: Audacity help

2016-09-15 Thread Rich De Steno

To remove a track, get focus on the track to be removed and press shift-c.


Rich De Steno

On 9/15/2016 7:13 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
Hello how do I remove a track using Audacity so I can start the track 
over? or remove what is in the second track so I can re record it?


thanks

Hank









Review: RAVPower RP-PB14 Xtreme – The Last Portable Battery You’ll Ever Need?

2016-09-15 Thread Dane Trethowan
Review: RAVPower RP-PB14 Xtreme – The Last Portable Battery You’ll Ever Need?
August 27, 2014


RAVPower RP-PB14 Xtreme

I’m starting to think I might have a problem. My interest in external batteries 
may be turning into a fetish, but these energy stores are important to our 
digital lifestyles. The latest electron pump to whet my appetite is the 
RAVPower RP-PB14 Xtreme.

Xtreme is a clue to this units performance, this is one meaty power pack. 
Weighing in at over half a kilo and with dimensions of 18.5 cms x 12.4 cms x 
1.8 cms, this isn’t going to fit in your pocket. But its huge capacity is its 
advantage and it’s still small enough to fit in pretty much any bag.

The 23,000mAh 5v output will, for example, fully recharge an iPhone around 12 
times, a Galaxy S4 around 7 times and even an iPad Air from empty to full twice 
over. In addition the battery can output a range of higher voltages to power 
netbooks, notebooks and laptops too.

The Kit

As well as the battery itself, the kit comes with 4 charger tips for mobile 
devices (Samsung, Nokia, mini and micro USB) as well as 2 x USB power leads, 
plus a range of 10 charger tips for laptops (see below) and a DC lead to hook 
them up. There’s also a felt carry case to pack it all into.

RAVPower RP-PB14 Xtreme Kit

Feel the Power

The little LCD screen gives the unit an air of quality and shows the remaining 
power level of the cells (both visually in bars as well as a percentage value). 
In addition the USB symbol appears when charging through either of the USB 
ports.

RAVPower RP-PB14 Xtreme LCD Display

The upper aluminium body (plastic bottom half) helps with heat dissipation and 
there are 4 ports along the top edge of the case. From left to right, first is 
the input port, this is used to charge the battery from the supplied AC Mains 
charger (15-24v 2A) which will work around the world as it’s 100-240V 50-60Hz. 
It takes around 6 hours to fully charge.

RAVPower RP-PB14 Xtreme Ports

Next along is the USB 2 port, this is a 2.5A output that will charge an iPad at 
full speed as well as those other power greedy devices like the Galaxy Tab or 
Nexus 7. The USB 1 port is a standard 1.0A output for your iPhone, Android 
smartphone, Portable Game Console etc. Finally the right-most port is the DC 
Output for charging laptops and notebooks. 






Check the AC adaptor for your laptop to determine the voltage required, then 
hold down the single function button until the voltage value begins to flash. 
Press the button again to cycle through the output options (9, 12, 16, 19 and 
20 volts). Once you arrive at the correct value leave it flashing for a few 
seconds and it will stop and lock to that output.

Apple Magsafe Cord / CableThe 10 notebook tips included in the kit will connect 
the battery to most units from Acer, Asus, Benq, Dell, HP, Lenovo, Samsung, 
Sony and Toshiba.

Being a MacBook household there’s an obvious omission from that list, no doubt 
because of Apple’s proprietary connector. However a quick search turns up these 
inexpensive Apple Magsafe and Magesafe 2 cords so it may be possible to rig 
something up for your Cupertino computer. But plug any Heath Robinson 
contraption into your shiny, expensive MacBook at your own risk.

You can use both USB Smart Ports at once (3.5A max) and even simultaneously 
charge 3 devices by adding your laptop at the same time (4.5A max total 
output). The instructions allude to an 80% efficiency stating that the unit 
will “…consume about 20% of the total capacity, including power loss from 
circuit heat and voltage conversion”.

RAVPower say the Lithium-Polymer cells employed by their unit are more stable 
and safer than Li-ion and they are good for over 500 recharge cycles. They are 
keen to point out the other safety features of this unit too and quote 
protection for overcharge, overvoltage, overcurrent, overtemperature and short 
circuit with auto-shut down where required. In normal use the unit will auto 
power off between 5 and 20 seconds after its been disconnected.

Bottom Line

We recently packed the RP-PB14 on a long family car journey and even though 
there was USB power available in the car, the rear seat passengers preferred to 
use the battery as it meant those (short) lightning and micro-USB cables 
weren’t as stretched and restrictive as they were when plugged into the car 
adaptor.

The enormous capacity of the RAVPower unit would be especially useful on long 
flights. Although I’ve noticed there’s an increased risk of being pulled at 
airport security these days with a battery in your hand luggage. I’ve been 
stopped at the X-Ray on 4 out of the last 4 flights I’ve taken so they could 
take a closer look at this smaller battery.

 
My daughter can seemingly drain any smartphone battery in just a few hours and 
as she’s starting university in a few weeks this is going to be the perfect 
device for her backpack. Popularity with her fellow IT students should be 
assured too when word 

B P7 Wireless review | What Hi-Fi?

2016-09-15 Thread Dane Trethowan
And here’s another review Bowers And Wilkins themselves put up on their Twitter 
feed, they must be pretty happy chap’s I should think.


> http://www.whathifi.com/bw/p7-wireless/review#node-content-start 
> 


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Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better than the original

2016-09-15 Thread Dane Trethowan
I know that partience is a virtue so I can only hope my fin findings 
won't disappoint though with B stuff? I've never been disappointed.




On 16/09/2016 5:21 AM, John Gurd wrote:

We will await your report with interest, Dane (smiles)

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 15 September 2016 19:21
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better 
than the original

I have the originals myself though one does have to wonder just how good they 
are if they're selling for the same price as the originals which they are, 
anyway I've made arrangements to go take a listen myself.



On 16/09/2016 3:16 AM, John Gurd wrote:

If these are as good as they claim, I'd be sorely tempted even though I've got 
the original P7's already.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: 14 September 2016 18:56
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They
sound better than the original

I?ve owned an original Bowers And Wilkins P7 set for around 12 months now I 
think it is.
Like you I would never claim that they?re the best cans around but I reckon 
they?re damn good all the same so I?ll be making a point of going to my local 
Hi-Fi store to give these babies a listen.


On 14 Sep 2016, at 11:46 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Theo Nicolakis

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.












Audacity help

2016-09-15 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
Hello how do I remove a track using Audacity so I can start the track 
over? or remove what is in the second track so I can re record it?


thanks

Hank





RE: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better than the original

2016-09-15 Thread John Gurd
We will await your report with interest, Dane (smiles)

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 15 September 2016 19:21
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better 
than the original

I have the originals myself though one does have to wonder just how good they 
are if they're selling for the same price as the originals which they are, 
anyway I've made arrangements to go take a listen myself.



On 16/09/2016 3:16 AM, John Gurd wrote:
> If these are as good as they claim, I'd be sorely tempted even though I've 
> got the original P7's already.
>
> John
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Dane Trethowan
> Sent: 14 September 2016 18:56
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They 
> sound better than the original
>
> I?ve owned an original Bowers And Wilkins P7 set for around 12 months now I 
> think it is.
> Like you I would never claim that they?re the best cans around but I reckon 
> they?re damn good all the same so I?ll be making a point of going to my local 
> Hi-Fi store to give these babies a listen.
>
>> On 14 Sep 2016, at 11:46 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>
>> Theo Nicolakis
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
>
>
>
>





Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better than the original

2016-09-15 Thread Mary Otten
 The originals are now $50 cheaper.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> I have the originals myself though one does have to wonder just how good they 
> are if they're selling for the same price as the originals which they are, 
> anyway I've made arrangements to go take a listen myself.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 16/09/2016 3:16 AM, John Gurd wrote:
>> If these are as good as they claim, I'd be sorely tempted even though I've 
>> got the original P7's already.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
>> Trethowan
>> Sent: 14 September 2016 18:56
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound 
>> better than the original
>> 
>> I�ve owned an original Bowers And Wilkins P7 set for around 12 months now I 
>> think it is.
>> Like you I would never claim that they�re the best cans around but I reckon 
>> they�re damn good all the same so I�ll be making a point of going to my 
>> local Hi-Fi store to give these babies a listen.
>> 
>>> On 14 Sep 2016, at 11:46 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Theo Nicolakis
>> **
>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
>> halfwits in this world behind.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 


Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better than the original

2016-09-15 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yes point taken but I think you'd have to admint that the sound of good 
audio is extremely addictive and the claim is made that these new cans 
sound better than the older model.


On 16/09/2016 3:21 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

I would love to hear a pair of these. But even if they are noticeably better, 
$400 is a lot to pay when you already have a couple of excellent sets of 
headphones around.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 15, 2016, at 10:16 AM, John Gurd  wrote:

If these are as good as they claim, I'd be sorely tempted even though I've got 
the original P7's already.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 14 September 2016 18:56
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better 
than the original

I�ve owned an original Bowers And Wilkins P7 set for around 12 months now I 
think it is.
Like you I would never claim that they�re the best cans around but I reckon 
they�re damn good all the same so I�ll be making a point of going to my local 
Hi-Fi store to give these babies a listen.


On 14 Sep 2016, at 11:46 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Theo Nicolakis

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.











Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better than the original

2016-09-15 Thread Dane Trethowan
I have the originals myself though one does have to wonder just how good 
they are if they're selling for the same price as the originals which 
they are, anyway I've made arrangements to go take a listen myself.




On 16/09/2016 3:16 AM, John Gurd wrote:

If these are as good as they claim, I'd be sorely tempted even though I've got 
the original P7's already.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 14 September 2016 18:56
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better 
than the original

I�ve owned an original Bowers And Wilkins P7 set for around 12 months now I 
think it is.
Like you I would never claim that they�re the best cans around but I reckon 
they�re damn good all the same so I�ll be making a point of going to my local 
Hi-Fi store to give these babies a listen.


On 14 Sep 2016, at 11:46 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Theo Nicolakis

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.









Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better than the original

2016-09-15 Thread Mary Otten
I would love to hear a pair of these. But even if they are noticeably better, 
$400 is a lot to pay when you already have a couple of excellent sets of 
headphones around.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2016, at 10:16 AM, John Gurd  wrote:
> 
> If these are as good as they claim, I'd be sorely tempted even though I've 
> got the original P7's already.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: 14 September 2016 18:56
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound 
> better than the original
> 
> I�ve owned an original Bowers And Wilkins P7 set for around 12 months now I 
> think it is.
> Like you I would never claim that they�re the best cans around but I reckon 
> they�re damn good all the same so I�ll be making a point of going to my local 
> Hi-Fi store to give these babies a listen.
> 
>> On 14 Sep 2016, at 11:46 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Theo Nicolakis
> 
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 
> 




RE: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better than the original

2016-09-15 Thread John Gurd
If these are as good as they claim, I'd be sorely tempted even though I've got 
the original P7's already.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 14 September 2016 18:56
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better 
than the original

I�ve owned an original Bowers And Wilkins P7 set for around 12 months now I 
think it is.
Like you I would never claim that they�re the best cans around but I reckon 
they�re damn good all the same so I�ll be making a point of going to my local 
Hi-Fi store to give these babies a listen.

> On 14 Sep 2016, at 11:46 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Theo Nicolakis

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.






Re: Daisy Player

2016-09-15 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
This depends who you are and what you do.
I don’t have any problems having control on the text on my phone but this 
doesn’t mean others have.
One thing i like with a smart phone is that you can attach a braille unit and 
read from that.
/A
> On 15 Sep 2016, at 15:54, Aidan  wrote:
> 
> Furder more, dain, the thing people don't remember is that with these
> deticated players, you have full control over text documents or daisy
> text, wich you don't have on smart phones. It make me sick to do
> everything on the dam phone.
> 
> On 13/09/2016, Tim Grady  wrote:
>> The problem with all of these players for US customers is that they are not
>> supported by the national library service, so they would be of limitted use
>> here.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andrea
>> Sherry
>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:05 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: Daisy Player
>> 
>> Thanks for this information. This is exactly what I wanted to know.
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/09/2016 10:46 PM, Smiling? wrote:
>>> This is simply just a list of Daisy players that RNIB put together that I
>>> thought may help whomever of you find informative. there are Desktop
>>> players, Portable players (which I've copied and pasted below) and
>>> Computer software players.
>>> 
>>> Buy a DAISY player from RNIB | RNIB | Supporting people with sight loss:
>>> http://www.rnib.org.uk/services-we-offer-reading-services-rnib-audio-b
>>> ooks-service-talking-books/buy-daisy-player-rnib
>>> 
>>> Portable players
>>> 
>>> If you want to fit a large amount of audio content in your pocket the
>>> these small, lightweight players can be easily carried with you wherever
>>> you go. They all use SD cards for storage and you will generally need to
>>> use a computer in order to copy your content to the card. All portable
>>> DAISY players have these common features:
>>> •play various audio file types - DAISY, MP3 and WAV •listen to text
>>> files read out with the text-to-speech (T T S) software, with a choice
>>> of male and female voices •microphone, speakers and headphone jack
>>> 
>>> Milestone
>>> 
>>> The Milestone is the smallest and lightest DAISY player on the market.
>>> There are three different models but all feature the same simple layout
>>> with five buttons arranged in a cross with a button in the centre and a
>>> mode button on the top edge. These tactile keys and simple layout help
>>> ensure you hit the right button every time.
>>> 
>>> The Milestone 212 is primarily a book and music player and is one of the
>>> easiest to use portable players.
>>> 
>>> The Milestone 312 adds an FM radio, one gigabyte of internal memory, a
>>> clock, timer and alarm. You can also manage appointments and set reminders
>>> by adding Milestone Agenda software.
>>> 
>>> The Milestone 312 Pro adds Speakout which enables you to record voice
>>> labels for items around your home and office.
>>> 
>>> You can also use the Milestone to work out what colour something is with
>>> the optional Milestone Fame colour detector.
>>> 
>>> Plextalk Pocket (PTP)
>>> 
>>> Listen to web-based radio stations by using the built-in Wifi to connect
>>> to the internet. The Plextalk Pocket has a number key pad providing
>>> shortcuts to menu functions, bookmarks as well as arrow keys for
>>> navigation. The ability to record in DAISY format makes it perfect for
>>> education and work. You can add headings during a lecture so you can
>>> quickly and easily navigate the audio when revising. Available in two
>>> colours; black with white buttons and white with black buttons.
>>> 
>>> Plextalk Linio Pocket
>>> 
>>> The Plextalk Linio Pocket is very similar to the original Plextalk Pocket
>>> both in design and adds a calendar, alarm and 8GB of internal memroy.
>>> 
>>> BookSense
>>> 
>>> The BookSense is compatible with the widest range of formats enabling you
>>> to listen to content from the widest selection of providers. The BookSense
>>> range all have FM radio and a dedicated time button. There are three
>>> models available - BookSense T50, BookSense T50XT and the BookSense DS.
>>> 
>>> The red BookSense T50 has a number key pad and arrow keys for navigation.
>>> 
>>> The white BookSense T50XT has the same key layout as the T50 but also has
>>> four gigabytes of internal memory and Bluetooth so you can listen to your
>>> music and books using wireless headphones.
>>> 
>>> The BookSense DS also has Bluetooth and four gigabytes of internal memory
>>> but also has a high quality OLED screen. Its number key pad has well
>>> defined, tactile buttons.
>>> 
>>> Blaze ET & EZ
>>> 
>>> New Victor Reader Stream
>>> 
>>> The Victor Reader Stream 2 is roughly the size of a pack of playing cards
>>> and is the largest of the portable players. Its number key pad has well
>>> defined and raised tactile buttons.
>>> 
>>> -Original 

Garageband.

2016-09-15 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Where is the payed verseion of garageband?
Can’t find it in the app store so i think its only in some.
/A


Re: Daisy Player

2016-09-15 Thread Aidan
Furder more, dain, the thing people don't remember is that with these
deticated players, you have full control over text documents or daisy
text, wich you don't have on smart phones. It make me sick to do
everything on the dam phone.

On 13/09/2016, Tim Grady  wrote:
> The problem with all of these players for US customers is that they are not
> supported by the national library service, so they would be of limitted use
> here.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andrea
> Sherry
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:05 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Daisy Player
>
> Thanks for this information. This is exactly what I wanted to know.
>
>
> On 11/09/2016 10:46 PM, Smiling? wrote:
>> This is simply just a list of Daisy players that RNIB put together that I
>> thought may help whomever of you find informative. there are Desktop
>> players, Portable players (which I've copied and pasted below) and
>> Computer software players.
>>
>> Buy a DAISY player from RNIB | RNIB | Supporting people with sight loss:
>> http://www.rnib.org.uk/services-we-offer-reading-services-rnib-audio-b
>> ooks-service-talking-books/buy-daisy-player-rnib
>>
>> Portable players
>>
>> If you want to fit a large amount of audio content in your pocket the
>> these small, lightweight players can be easily carried with you wherever
>> you go. They all use SD cards for storage and you will generally need to
>> use a computer in order to copy your content to the card. All portable
>> DAISY players have these common features:
>> •play various audio file types - DAISY, MP3 and WAV •listen to text
>> files read out with the text-to-speech (T T S) software, with a choice
>> of male and female voices •microphone, speakers and headphone jack
>>
>> Milestone
>>
>> The Milestone is the smallest and lightest DAISY player on the market.
>> There are three different models but all feature the same simple layout
>> with five buttons arranged in a cross with a button in the centre and a
>> mode button on the top edge. These tactile keys and simple layout help
>> ensure you hit the right button every time.
>>
>> The Milestone 212 is primarily a book and music player and is one of the
>> easiest to use portable players.
>>
>> The Milestone 312 adds an FM radio, one gigabyte of internal memory, a
>> clock, timer and alarm. You can also manage appointments and set reminders
>> by adding Milestone Agenda software.
>>
>> The Milestone 312 Pro adds Speakout which enables you to record voice
>> labels for items around your home and office.
>>
>> You can also use the Milestone to work out what colour something is with
>> the optional Milestone Fame colour detector.
>>
>> Plextalk Pocket (PTP)
>>
>> Listen to web-based radio stations by using the built-in Wifi to connect
>> to the internet. The Plextalk Pocket has a number key pad providing
>> shortcuts to menu functions, bookmarks as well as arrow keys for
>> navigation. The ability to record in DAISY format makes it perfect for
>> education and work. You can add headings during a lecture so you can
>> quickly and easily navigate the audio when revising. Available in two
>> colours; black with white buttons and white with black buttons.
>>
>> Plextalk Linio Pocket
>>
>> The Plextalk Linio Pocket is very similar to the original Plextalk Pocket
>> both in design and adds a calendar, alarm and 8GB of internal memroy.
>>
>> BookSense
>>
>> The BookSense is compatible with the widest range of formats enabling you
>> to listen to content from the widest selection of providers. The BookSense
>> range all have FM radio and a dedicated time button. There are three
>> models available - BookSense T50, BookSense T50XT and the BookSense DS.
>>
>> The red BookSense T50 has a number key pad and arrow keys for navigation.
>>
>> The white BookSense T50XT has the same key layout as the T50 but also has
>> four gigabytes of internal memory and Bluetooth so you can listen to your
>> music and books using wireless headphones.
>>
>> The BookSense DS also has Bluetooth and four gigabytes of internal memory
>> but also has a high quality OLED screen. Its number key pad has well
>> defined, tactile buttons.
>>
>> Blaze ET & EZ
>>
>> New Victor Reader Stream
>>
>> The Victor Reader Stream 2 is roughly the size of a pack of playing cards
>> and is the largest of the portable players. Its number key pad has well
>> defined and raised tactile buttons.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>> Andrea Sherry
>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:02 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Daisy Player
>>
>> Need a suggestion for a new player which is not the Victor Reader Stream.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Andrea
>>
>>
>
> --
> Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from
> now and make a brand new 

re victor stream second generation

2016-09-15 Thread brian parker

Hi tom, thanks, yes, it works. good luck brian.