Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
We'll agree to disagree then. Humanware only wants to support a part of the market they know they can extract money from, those Humanware can preach to and easily convince that Humanware are the only solution on Planet Earth, a bit like the Church of Scientology. On 11/10/2017 7:57 AM, Mary Otten wrote: More to go wrong or more to enable more people to use the device. I don't own one, but I still know plenty of blind folks who do much better with buttons than with touch; were that not true, HumanWare wouldn't make this stuff. Mary -- ** "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" **
Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
Apologies as I didn’t know you had an Amazon Echo but that’s as far as the apology goes. Remembering skills? I have skills on my Amazon Echo and yes, its probably not used as much as yours would be given the Amazon echo is not fully supported in Australia but I do indeed know what skills I have on my system and - if I’m in any doubt - then I can look up and manage what I have installed on the Amazon Echo web page. I don’t buy the argument about small company’s and lack of resources these days, I’ve been using hearing instruments for over 30 years and - over that time - the price has changed radically along with the technology which suggests to me that - unlike Humanware - small company’s in the hearing instruments market - once again a very small and specialist market - want to put their clients - those who have hearing difficulty’s and need to use their products - first. In recent years of course we’ve seen a huge shift in the hearing instruments market to using the instrument as such as a secondary device and something more substantial - Mobile phone - as the primary processing device which in tern has both brought more power to the instrument and brought the price down. I’m not suggesting for one moment that the latter point of using two devices be used in the case of Humanware as one “Stand-Alone” device is what’s required here however Humanware are not acknowleding changing technology, not keeping up with the mainstream. Accessibility should be all and not just for a few. On 10 Nov 2017, at 8:48 am, Mary Otten> wrote: Yes, I have an Amazon echo. It’s of limited utility in my opinion, partly because although there are so many skills, finding them and then remembering what you have is well, not easy. But I do have one. Now why would I want to repeat that whole thing with a device from humanware, which, given the small market, would probably cost at least twice or three times as much? Who is argument is ridiculous here? Add voice input to something for sure. But for a small company like humanware to make a single use voice activated speaker would be the height of stupid. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Nov 9, 2017, at 1:27 PM, Dane Trethowan > wrote: That argument is just ridiculous, have you ever used an Amazon Echo or a Google home? you can only interact with those devices the one way, with your voice! Obviously you use an App or a Web Page to set these devices up but once that's done? Well you either talk and use the device or you fall silent and the device drops dead too. On 11/10/2017 7:59 AM, Mary Otten wrote: I never said that voice input wouldn't be good, just that having it as the sole method would not be a good idea; not at all practical. -- ** "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" ** ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
That argument is just ridiculous, have you ever used an Amazon Echo or a Google home? you can only interact with those devices the one way, with your voice! Obviously you use an App or a Web Page to set these devices up but once that's done? Well you either talk and use the device or you fall silent and the device drops dead too. On 11/10/2017 7:59 AM, Mary Otten wrote: I never said that voice input wouldn't be good, just that having it as the sole method would not be a good idea; not at all practical. -- ** "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" **
SV: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
Hi Anders, Oh sorry to hear that. I never had issues with mine. But you're right that such a device should contain up-up to date hardware, and downloading books is a pain too. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Anders Holmberg Sendt: 9. november 2017 23:15 Til: PC Audio Discussion ListEmne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek Hi! Yes you’re right Brian but they should have put better hardware into the stream. I have had my for repair once and i think it needs to go on repair again. /A > 9 nov. 2017 kl. 22:14 skrev Brian Olesen : > > Hey Mary, > You are so perfectly right, and to tell you the truth it's not only > blind people who feels this way. > But fascion is playing many of it's tricks on people you know. > Also a dedicated device for special needs is wonderful. > For example with a Victor you don't really need to care about power > loss or battery drainage. > Charge it once every second day, and you can read on and on as long as > you like. > Also manipulating the audio is a time consuming process. Lets say you > need to go to a certain page in a daisy book with touch, or find a special > fraze. > This is technically speaking possible, but will always and I mean > always take much longer with touch then with regular keys. > If you're a student and is planning to study for 5 years these seconds > becoming minutes becoming hours, becoming days, actually counts > against the biological human clock, and would be a great unnecessary > waist of precious time. > Yes off course I do own the app Voice Dream Reader, and loves it, but > believe me. I use my Stream 95 % of the time instead. > I could use my nice Hims U2, and honestly don't know why I don't. > Maybe because of it's size. But this little handy pocket device feels > more like reading a real book then using apps for all purposes in > life. :-) > > Best regards > Brian > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Mary > Otten > Sendt: 9. november 2017 21:58 > Til: PC Audio Discussion List > Emne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trekagainst the biological > human clock. > > More to go wrong or more to enable more people to use the device. I > don't own one, but I still know plenty of blind folks who do much > better with buttons than with touch; were thaIf you're a student and > is planning to study for 5 years these seconds being minutes becoming > hours becoming days actually count t not true, HumanWare wouldn't make this > stuff. > > Mary > > > >
SV: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
Hi, Ah let's get this strate. aptX is a faster protocol especially used by gamers to get lower latency when playing with Bluetooth headphones. The aptX audio codec is available for consumer and automotive wireless audio applications, notably the real-time streaming of lossy stereo audio over the Bluetooth A2DP connection/pairing between a "source" device (such as a smartphone, tablet or laptop) and a "sink" accessory (namely a Bluetooth stereo speaker, headset or headphones). aptX technology must be incorporated in both transmitter and receiver to derive the sonic benefits of aptX audio coding over the default sub-band coding (SBC) mandated by the Bluetooth standard. Consumer electronics products bearing the CSR aptX logo are certified for interoperability with other Bluetooth audio products belonging to the aptX ecosystem. -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Anders Holmberg Sendt: 9. november 2017 22:54 Til: PC Audio Discussion ListEmne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek Hi! Its an uncompressed format so the sound quality is better. /A > 9 nov. 2017 kl. 15:25 skrev Peter Scanlon : > > What is aptx why is that better than what ever other Blue Tooth? > > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders > Holmberg > Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 11:29 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek > > Hi! > I wonder if the trek has bluetooth with aptx. > I don’t think so. > /A > >> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:05 skrev Dane Trethowan : >> >> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so >> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. >> >> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years. >> >> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other >> similar devices. >> >> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated >> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff. >> >> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what >> you will of this. >> >> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html >> >> -- >> >> ** >> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" >> ** >> >> > > >
Re: accessible digital recorder with editing
No, the H1 doesn't have a Pre-record buffer but i'm sure some of the other Zoom models do. The H1 for waht it is presents a very basic audio recorder designed to do a job and do it very well, record audio at a very bargain basement price though there's nothing bargain basement about the recordings theZoom H1 makes. On 11/10/2017 11:43 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: I could be wrong but I believe the H1 has pre record too. I'll have to re listen to Neal's podcast. By the way for the person who started this thread define accessable. These recorders are cirtainly usable as Neal and Dain and others use them. But you must be able to deal with remembering menus remembering where you are at what time, and deal with the fact that there's no sound period at all. I just bring this up cause I sometimes turn off the beeps on my LS-14 i almost said 100. I wish I had a 100. But anyways I turn off the beeps on the 14 and I sometimes can get thrown off by not hearing anything. I guess in a sence I've been spoiled by using stuff like a Plextalk most of the time. So yeah let's not forget what 1 person calls accessible may not be to someone else. On 11/9/2017 3:23 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: The whole point of these digital recorders is to “Record” audio and then use with a computer afterwards if necessary for editing, organisation, tweaking of Audio characteristics and so on. All the recorders I have - Zoom H1, Sony PCM-d50 and Olympus DM4 - have capabilities to create new files on the fly or mark positions within the file at the push of a button. As far as I know the PCM-d50 is the only recorder I own with the “Pre-Record Buffer” which is dead handy when you’re making live recordings, never miss a thing! Good luck if you can find a Sony PCM-d50 . And if you do find one then you’ve certainly struck gold! ** “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.” On 9 Nov 2017, at 11:49 pm, Fanuswrote: Hello Dane & list Does one get an accessible digital recorder with editing capabilities. A friend of mine is a member of a choir. The choir master records the songs for her but everytime she makes a mistake she must start from scratch resulting in the creation of a new file. They are looking for a recorder which allows for stopping the recording and rewind to just before the error and then resume. Does one get such a recorder? I suppose it could be handy for lawyers and doctors. Regards Fanus --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- ** "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" **
Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
Hi! Yes you’re right Brian but they should have put better hardware into the stream. I have had my for repair once and i think it needs to go on repair again. /A > 9 nov. 2017 kl. 22:14 skrev Brian Olesen: > > Hey Mary, > You are so perfectly right, and to tell you the truth it's not only blind > people who feels this way. > But fascion is playing many of it's tricks on people you know. > Also a dedicated device for special needs is wonderful. > For example with a Victor you don't really need to care about power loss or > battery drainage. > Charge it once every second day, and you can read on and on as long as you > like. > Also manipulating the audio is a time consuming process. Lets say you need > to go to a certain page in a daisy book with touch, or find a special fraze. > This is technically speaking possible, but will always and I mean always > take much longer with touch then with regular keys. > If you're a student and is planning to study for 5 years these seconds > becoming minutes becoming hours, becoming days, actually counts against the > biological human clock, and would be a great unnecessary waist of precious > time. > Yes off course I do own the app Voice Dream Reader, and loves it, but > believe me. I use my Stream 95 % of the time instead. > I could use my nice Hims U2, and honestly don't know why I don't. Maybe > because of it's size. But this little handy pocket device feels more like > reading a real book then using apps for all purposes in life. :-) > > Best regards > Brian > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Mary Otten > Sendt: 9. november 2017 21:58 > Til: PC Audio Discussion List > Emne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trekagainst the biological human > clock. > > More to go wrong or more to enable more people to use the device. I don't > own one, but I still know plenty of blind folks who do much better with > buttons than with touch; were thaIf you're a student and is planning to > study for 5 years these seconds being minutes becoming hours becoming days > actually count t not true, HumanWare wouldn't make this stuff. > > Mary > > > >
Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
Well enjoy wasting your time then. > On 10 Nov 2017, at 9:09 am, Peter Scanlonwrote: > > Good point you make about those seconds wasting time. > Today, so much time can be wasted deleting crap emails or social media > stuff, that wastes time in business or study. > Especially as it takes us longer to identify a not wanted message than a > sighted person. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian > Olesen > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 8:14 AM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: SV: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek > > Hey Mary, > You are so perfectly right, and to tell you the truth it's not only blind > people who feels this way. > But fascion is playing many of it's tricks on people you know. > Also a dedicated device for special needs is wonderful. > For example with a Victor you don't really need to care about power loss or > battery drainage. > Charge it once every second day, and you can read on and on as long as you > like. > Also manipulating the audio is a time consuming process. Lets say you need > to go to a certain page in a daisy book with touch, or find a special fraze. > This is technically speaking possible, but will always and I mean always > take much longer with touch then with regular keys. > If you're a student and is planning to study for 5 years these seconds > becoming minutes becoming hours, becoming days, actually counts against the > biological human clock, and would be a great unnecessary waist of precious > time. > Yes off course I do own the app Voice Dream Reader, and loves it, but > believe me. I use my Stream 95 % of the time instead. > I could use my nice Hims U2, and honestly don't know why I don't. Maybe > because of it's size. But this little handy pocket device feels more like > reading a real book then using apps for all purposes in life. :-) > > Best regards > Brian > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Mary Otten > Sendt: 9. november 2017 21:58 > Til: PC Audio Discussion List > Emne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trekagainst the biological human > clock. > > More to go wrong or more to enable more people to use the device. I don't > own one, but I still know plenty of blind folks who do much better with > buttons than with touch; were thaIf you're a student and is planning to > study for 5 years these seconds being minutes becoming hours becoming days > actually count t not true, HumanWare wouldn't make this stuff. > > Mary > > > > > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
Hi! THanks Eden for letting us know that. Then there will not be any trek in this house. I rather use my Nokia 8 or moto g 5 for such purpose or my stream 2 for listening to daisy books unless it doesn’t turn of by it self without any warning like it use to do for me when i have wifi on. /A > 9 nov. 2017 kl. 21:10 skrev Aidan: > > Yes, the button thing is great, but unfortunetly they did not change > enough hardware. The stream hardware is quite bad, and all they done > now is to change the procesor and remove the line in jac to make room > for the gps antenna. > They are lazy these days, come out with just a few updates once every > now and then, and then they brag on the fact that they have different > teams to work on different products wich are suppose to create the > impression that they have enough people to make it possible to work on > these things properly. > They also now will include an fm radio, wich is great, but then > stream users is missing out, and its now unfairely expected that if > you don't want gps you should buy this thing to get blootooth, and the > fm radio. This probibly means that the treck will get more updates and > the other stream little or nothing and then they will suddenly > discontinue the stream for a new one later. They did the same before > with the older stream. After they discontinued it, they did not > provide updates for it to bring it inline with the new model, such as > to add the consolidate notes and repeat one track only features on the > notes and music bookshelfs respectively. All about money and they > don't care. > Its nice that this unit will have maps onboard, wich means no data > drain, but so little hardware change is unexceptible. > > On 09/11/2017, Peter Scanlon wrote: >> The good thing about Victor is it has real buttons. No need for voice >> command. >> I agree doing voice command in public can be a problem. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary >> Otten >> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 1:33 AM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek >> >> VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I >> really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or >> whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t >> the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let >> them use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing >> things on the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More >> often than not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what >> they found, or you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star >> Trek days, so the fact that human where hasn’t come out with something >> actually like a home or an echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came >> out with one of the speaker things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want >> to buy a specialized speaker made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are >> after all voice activated. What possible value add it could there be? That’s >> why I say having some kind of voice deal that would actually let you use >> your device with voice under the right circumstances could be good. >> >> Mary >> >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowan >>> wrote: >>> >>> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so >>> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. >>> >>> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for >>> years. >>> >>> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other >>> similar devices. >>> >>> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated >>> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of >>> stuff. >>> >>> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make >>> what you will of this. >>> >>> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ** >>> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" >>> ** >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >
RE: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
Good point you make about those seconds wasting time. Today, so much time can be wasted deleting crap emails or social media stuff, that wastes time in business or study. Especially as it takes us longer to identify a not wanted message than a sighted person. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 8:14 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'Subject: SV: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek Hey Mary, You are so perfectly right, and to tell you the truth it's not only blind people who feels this way. But fascion is playing many of it's tricks on people you know. Also a dedicated device for special needs is wonderful. For example with a Victor you don't really need to care about power loss or battery drainage. Charge it once every second day, and you can read on and on as long as you like. Also manipulating the audio is a time consuming process. Lets say you need to go to a certain page in a daisy book with touch, or find a special fraze. This is technically speaking possible, but will always and I mean always take much longer with touch then with regular keys. If you're a student and is planning to study for 5 years these seconds becoming minutes becoming hours, becoming days, actually counts against the biological human clock, and would be a great unnecessary waist of precious time. Yes off course I do own the app Voice Dream Reader, and loves it, but believe me. I use my Stream 95 % of the time instead. I could use my nice Hims U2, and honestly don't know why I don't. Maybe because of it's size. But this little handy pocket device feels more like reading a real book then using apps for all purposes in life. :-) Best regards Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Mary Otten Sendt: 9. november 2017 21:58 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trekagainst the biological human clock. More to go wrong or more to enable more people to use the device. I don't own one, but I still know plenty of blind folks who do much better with buttons than with touch; were thaIf you're a student and is planning to study for 5 years these seconds being minutes becoming hours becoming days actually count t not true, HumanWare wouldn't make this stuff. Mary
Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
That’s obviously a personal thing isn’t it? I mean there are plenty of people who use Voice commands with their iPhone and Siri, Android phone with Google assistant and Goodness only knows how many other GPS and Entertainment devices out there. All new cars sold these days have facilities to accept Voice Commands along with Bluetooth speakers etc. ** “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.” > On 10 Nov 2017, at 1:33 am, Mary Ottenwrote: > > VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I > really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or > whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t > the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let > them use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing > things on the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More > often than not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what > they found, or you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star Trek > days, so the fact that human where hasn’t come out with something actually > like a home or an echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came out with > one of the speaker things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want to buy a > specialized speaker made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are after all > voice activated. What possible value add it could there be? That’s why I say > having some kind of voice deal that would actually let you use your device > with voice under the right circumstances could be good. > > Mary > > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so >> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. >> >> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years. >> >> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other >> similar devices. >> >> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated >> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff. >> >> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what >> you will of this. >> >> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html >> >> -- >> >> ** >> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" >> ** >> >> > >
Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
Yep it has buttons, more to go wrong. ** “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.” > On 10 Nov 2017, at 5:37 am, Peter Scanlonwrote: > > The good thing about Victor is it has real buttons. No need for voice > command. > I agree doing voice command in public can be a problem. > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 1:33 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek > > VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I > really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or > whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t > the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let > them use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing > things on the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More > often than not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what > they found, or you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star Trek > days, so the fact that human where hasn’t come out with something actually > like a home or an echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came out with > one of the speaker things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want to buy a > specialized speaker made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are after all > voice activated. What possible value add it could there be? That’s why I say > having some kind of voice deal that would actually let you use your device > with voice under the right circumstances could be good. > > Mary > > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so >> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. >> >> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years. >> >> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other >> similar devices. >> >> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated >> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff. >> >> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what >> you will of this. >> >> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html >> >> -- >> >> ** >> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" >> ** >> >> > > >
Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
Yes, the button thing is great, but unfortunetly they did not change enough hardware. The stream hardware is quite bad, and all they done now is to change the procesor and remove the line in jac to make room for the gps antenna. They are lazy these days, come out with just a few updates once every now and then, and then they brag on the fact that they have different teams to work on different products wich are suppose to create the impression that they have enough people to make it possible to work on these things properly. They also now will include an fm radio, wich is great, but then stream users is missing out, and its now unfairely expected that if you don't want gps you should buy this thing to get blootooth, and the fm radio. This probibly means that the treck will get more updates and the other stream little or nothing and then they will suddenly discontinue the stream for a new one later. They did the same before with the older stream. After they discontinued it, they did not provide updates for it to bring it inline with the new model, such as to add the consolidate notes and repeat one track only features on the notes and music bookshelfs respectively. All about money and they don't care. Its nice that this unit will have maps onboard, wich means no data drain, but so little hardware change is unexceptible. On 09/11/2017, Peter Scanlonwrote: > The good thing about Victor is it has real buttons. No need for voice > command. > I agree doing voice command in public can be a problem. > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary > Otten > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 1:33 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek > > VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I > really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or > whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t > the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let > them use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing > things on the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More > often than not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what > they found, or you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star > Trek days, so the fact that human where hasn’t come out with something > actually like a home or an echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came > out with one of the speaker things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want > to buy a specialized speaker made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are > after all voice activated. What possible value add it could there be? That’s > why I say having some kind of voice deal that would actually let you use > your device with voice under the right circumstances could be good. > > Mary > > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowan >> wrote: >> >> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so >> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. >> >> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for >> years. >> >> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other >> similar devices. >> >> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated >> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of >> stuff. >> >> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make >> what you will of this. >> >> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html >> >> -- >> >> ** >> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" >> ** >> >> > > > >
RE: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
The good thing about Victor is it has real buttons. No need for voice command. I agree doing voice command in public can be a problem. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 1:33 AM To: PC Audio Discussion ListSubject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let them use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing things on the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More often than not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what they found, or you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star Trek days, so the fact that human where hasn’t come out with something actually like a home or an echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came out with one of the speaker things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want to buy a specialized speaker made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are after all voice activated. What possible value add it could there be? That’s why I say having some kind of voice deal that would actually let you use your device with voice under the right circumstances could be good. Mary Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so > many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. > > Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years. > > Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other > similar devices. > > So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated > device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff. > > Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what > you will of this. > > http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html > > -- > > ** > "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" > ** > >
SV: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
HI, AptX is not a format it's a protocol. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Anders Holmberg Sendt: 9. november 2017 13:47 Til: PC Audio Discussion ListEmne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek Hi! Yes but does it support the aptx format. I don’t want to spend another bunch of money for a device and be disappointed again. My second gen stream is still alive and kicking but very often crashes even though its been on repair and have been reset a bunch of times. I rather use a stable android phone or Iphone for these purposes if the trek shows similar tendences. /A > 9 nov. 2017 kl. 13:37 skrev JOHN RIEHL : > > The victor Trekker does have Bluetooth capability. > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders > Holmberg > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 7:29 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek > > Hi! > I wonder if the trek has bluetooth with aptx. > I don’t think so. > /A > >> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:05 skrev Dane Trethowan : >> >> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so >> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. >> >> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years. >> >> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other >> similar devices. >> >> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated >> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff. >> >> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what >> you will of this. >> >> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html >> >> -- >> >> ** >> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" >> ** >> >> > > >
Re: software to tag mp3 files?
Hi. I'm still active. I'm able to call at 4 PM monday. But as soon as you let me know what they say I could call them. Thanks. On 11/8/2017 11:13 AM, John Gurd via Pc-audio wrote: I've used Tag and Rename for years. It is very rich in features and accessible with Jaws. I can't remember how much I paid for it. http://www.softpointer.com/tr.htm John -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 04 November 2017 00:45 To: PC Audio Discussion ListSubject: Re: software to tag mp3 files? I very much look forward to seeing your tutorials. In the meantime? I’ll use MP3 Tag Studio to get the job done. ** “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.” On 3 Nov 2017, at 6:02 pm, Robert Godridge wrote: Well, I just did it once and next time when you press the down arrow you can select it. The beauty of mp3tag is if you have a folder of files you want to tag, hit applications key, then press 3 or go down to the mp3tag option in your context menue and it'll do the entire directory, then select all and you're done. I can help somewhat if you like. https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail; target="_blank">https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif; alt="" width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;" /> Virus-free. https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail; target="_blank" style="color: #4453ea;">www.avast.com On 11/3/17, Peter Scanlon wrote: It’s the ability to do it with multiple files that is needed. For me I get confused with the conversion process Where you need to put in a series of characters such as %artist% - %album% - %track% - %title% P. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Robert Godridge Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 5:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: software to tag mp3 files? also if you don't mind doing each file individually you can edit them in winamp, go to propperties, alt and 3. https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail; target="_blank">https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif; alt="" width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;" /> Virus-free. https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail; target="_blank" style="color: #4453ea;">www.avast.com On 11/3/17, Robert Godridge wrote: There's a forum. I've googled all my queeries and I've found explanations for them. If you mean mp3tag. https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail; target="_blank">https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif; alt="" width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;" /> Virus-free. https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail; target="_blank" style="color: #4453ea;">www.avast.com On 11/3/17, Peter Scanlon wrote: Like Adam, I have found this program difficult. I wish there was a tutorial. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Robert Godridge Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 5:25 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: software to tag mp3 files? https://www.mp3tag.de/ I wouldn't be without this. Goes nicely into the context menue. https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail; target="_blank">https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif; alt="" width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;" /> Virus-free. https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail; target="_blank" style="color: #4453ea;">www.avast.com On 11/3/17, Adam Morris wrote: Hi all, Wondering what software people use apart from iTunes to tag mp3 files that aren't copied from a cd? I know of someone who is given files made up by a communityradio station that need tagging. I've tried mp3 tag but haven't had much luck. -- Adam Morris Jaws certified 2016 Phone: +61 2 6654 Email, iMessage & FaceTime a...@damorris.com --- This email has been checked for
Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let them use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing things on the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More often than not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what they found, or you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star Trek days, so the fact that human where hasn’t come out with something actually like a home or an echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came out with one of the speaker things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want to buy a specialized speaker made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are after all voice activated. What possible value add it could there be? That’s why I say having some kind of voice deal that would actually let you use your device with voice under the right circumstances could be good. Mary Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowanwrote: > > So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so > many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. > > Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years. > > Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other > similar devices. > > So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated > device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff. > > Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what > you will of this. > > http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html > > -- > > ** > "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" > ** > >
RE: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
What is aptx why is that better than what ever other Blue Tooth? -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 11:29 PM To: PC Audio Discussion ListSubject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek Hi! I wonder if the trek has bluetooth with aptx. I don’t think so. /A > 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:05 skrev Dane Trethowan : > > So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so > many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. > > Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years. > > Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other > similar devices. > > So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated > device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff. > > Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what > you will of this. > > http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html > > -- > > ** > "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" > ** > >
Re: Digital Recorders (Sony PCM-D50)
Where did you see it and what is its name? Available where? Original message: Hi! How accessible is it? I guess if you’re lucky with it it must be very accessible. By the way i saw a nice little recording device which was just a microphone with 2 or three buttons on. Also a built in headphone jack and a slot for an micro sd card. The price was to high but it seemed to do its job very nice. /A 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:18 skrev Dane Trethowan: Hi! Well I guess at different times in our lives we all "Get Lucky" and such a time happened to me a few weeks ago. I managed to purchase - in good condition - a Sony PCM-D50 digital audio recorder. These recorders are at the low end of the professional recorder ranger from Sony and yet they do an excellent job, note the test I did with the recorder with a sample from the W9 speaker system. I managed to find a review of the recorder which was originally distributed via the Blind Cool Tech website. So what's the fuss? Listen here https://www.dropbox.com/s/l9v97jx1hjmivgb/bct1167SonyPCMD50RecorderReview.mp3?dl=0 -- ** "For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the one's you put in the ground and not the electric light one's." ** -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A ITR LGH1102, 54163 SKÖVDESWEDEN Tel: +46 (500) 48 29 29 +46 (500) 43 55 11
Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
I do not think so. They don’t mention it when they reference bluetooth. Best to ask to be sure. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 9, 2017, at 4:46 AM, Anders Holmbergwrote: > > Hi! > Yes but does it support the aptx format. > I don’t want to spend another bunch of money for a device and be disappointed > again. > My second gen stream is still alive and kicking but very often crashes even > though its been on repair and have been reset a bunch of times. > I rather use a stable android phone or Iphone for these purposes if the trek > shows similar tendences. > /A > >> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 13:37 skrev JOHN RIEHL : >> >> The victor Trekker does have Bluetooth capability. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders >> Holmberg >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 7:29 AM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek >> >> Hi! >> I wonder if the trek has bluetooth with aptx. >> I don’t think so. >> /A >> >>> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:05 skrev Dane Trethowan : >>> >>> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so >>> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. >>> >>> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years. >>> >>> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other >>> similar devices. >>> >>> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated >>> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff. >>> >>> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make >>> what you will of this. >>> >>> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ** >>> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" >>> ** >>> >>> >> >> >> > >
accessible digital recorder with editing
Hello Dane & list Does one get an accessible digital recorder with editing capabilities. A friend of mine is a member of a choir. The choir master records the songs for her but everytime she makes a mistake she must start from scratch resulting in the creation of a new file. They are looking for a recorder which allows for stopping the recording and rewind to just before the error and then resume. Does one get such a recorder? I suppose it could be handy for lawyers and doctors. Regards Fanus
Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
Hi! Yes but does it support the aptx format. I don’t want to spend another bunch of money for a device and be disappointed again. My second gen stream is still alive and kicking but very often crashes even though its been on repair and have been reset a bunch of times. I rather use a stable android phone or Iphone for these purposes if the trek shows similar tendences. /A > 9 nov. 2017 kl. 13:37 skrev JOHN RIEHL: > > The victor Trekker does have Bluetooth capability. > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders > Holmberg > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 7:29 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek > > Hi! > I wonder if the trek has bluetooth with aptx. > I don’t think so. > /A > >> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:05 skrev Dane Trethowan : >> >> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so >> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. >> >> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years. >> >> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other >> similar devices. >> >> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated >> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff. >> >> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what >> you will of this. >> >> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html >> >> -- >> >> ** >> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" >> ** >> >> > > >
Re: Digital Recorders (Sony PCM-D50)
Very accessible, see the link to Neil’s review. ** “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.” > On 9 Nov 2017, at 11:31 pm, Anders Holmbergwrote: > > Hi! > How accessible is it? > I guess if you’re lucky with it it must be very accessible. > By the way i saw a nice little recording device which was just a microphone > with 2 or three buttons on. > Also a built in headphone jack and a slot for an micro sd card. > The price was to high but it seemed to do its job very nice. > /A > >> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:18 skrev Dane Trethowan : >> >> Hi! >> >> Well I guess at different times in our lives we all "Get Lucky" and such a >> time happened to me a few weeks ago. >> >> I managed to purchase - in good condition - a Sony PCM-D50 digital audio >> recorder. >> >> These recorders are at the low end of the professional recorder ranger from >> Sony and yet they do an excellent job, note the test I did with the recorder >> with a sample from the W9 speaker system. >> >> I managed to find a review of the recorder which was originally distributed >> via the Blind Cool Tech website. >> >> So what's the fuss? Listen here >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/l9v97jx1hjmivgb/bct1167SonyPCMD50RecorderReview.mp3?dl=0 >> >> >> -- >> >> ** >> "For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the one's you >> put in the ground and not the electric light one's." >> ** >> >> > >
RE: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
The victor Trekker does have Bluetooth capability. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 7:29 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek Hi! I wonder if the trek has bluetooth with aptx. I don’t think so. /A > 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:05 skrev Dane Trethowan: > > So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so > many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. > > Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years. > > Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other > similar devices. > > So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated > device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff. > > Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what > you will of this. > > http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html > > -- > > ** > "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" > ** > >
Re: Digital Recorders (Sony PCM-D50)
Hi! How accessible is it? I guess if you’re lucky with it it must be very accessible. By the way i saw a nice little recording device which was just a microphone with 2 or three buttons on. Also a built in headphone jack and a slot for an micro sd card. The price was to high but it seemed to do its job very nice. /A > 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:18 skrev Dane Trethowan: > > Hi! > > Well I guess at different times in our lives we all "Get Lucky" and such a > time happened to me a few weeks ago. > > I managed to purchase - in good condition - a Sony PCM-D50 digital audio > recorder. > > These recorders are at the low end of the professional recorder ranger from > Sony and yet they do an excellent job, note the test I did with the recorder > with a sample from the W9 speaker system. > > I managed to find a review of the recorder which was originally distributed > via the Blind Cool Tech website. > > So what's the fuss? Listen here > https://www.dropbox.com/s/l9v97jx1hjmivgb/bct1167SonyPCMD50RecorderReview.mp3?dl=0 > > > -- > > ** > "For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the one's you > put in the ground and not the electric light one's." > ** > >
Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
Hi! I wonder if the trek has bluetooth with aptx. I don’t think so. /A > 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:05 skrev Dane Trethowan: > > So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so > many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. > > Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years. > > Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other > similar devices. > > So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated > device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff. > > Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what > you will of this. > > http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html > > -- > > ** > "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" > ** > >