Fwd: Fwd: loop back audio was Re: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard

[David Bailes]

Hi Hank,
see the recording section of this guide for details of the recording
settings of Audacity:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-2.2.0-Guide.html

To record the sound that is sent to your usb headphones, you need to set
the audio interface to wasapi, and then set the recording device to an item
which will be something like usb speakers, and have loopback as the last
word in its name. In addition, set the number of recording channels to 2
(stereo).

David.

-- Forwarded message --
From: The wolf <hank.smith...@gmail.com>
Date: 29 November 2017 at 04:27
Subject: Re: Fwd: loop back audio was Re: stereo mix not working on
realtech build in soundcard
To: David Bailes <drbai...@gmail.com>


how do you set it to record your usv head set and jaws fore example?

using the loop back feature?


On 11/28/2017 1:25 PM, David Bailes wrote:

> Hi Hank,
> see option 2 on this page:
> https://www.howtogeek.com/217348/how-to-record-the-sound-
> coming-from-your-pc-even-without-stereo-mix/
>
> Note that as well as Audacity, there are other recording programs with this
> feature.
>
> David.
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: The wolf <hank.smith...@gmail.com>
> Date: 28 November 2017 at 20:13
> Subject: loop back audio was Re: stereo mix not working on realtech build
> in soundcard
> To: David Bailes <drbai...@gmail.com>
>
>
> Hello I am changing the subject line so not to hi jack the thread
>
> how does the loop back feature work?
>
> I didn't even know you could do that
>
> Hank
>
>
>
> On 11/28/2017 1:08 PM, David Bailes wrote:
>
> Hi Aiden,
>> you may well already be aware of the following, but I thought it was worth
>> checking.
>> The stereo mix input provided by the realtek chip allows you to record the
>> audio output of the realtek chip. Are you sending any audio to the realtek
>> speaker output? The usb headset is a different sound device, so any audio
>> sent to your headphones won't be included in the realtek's stereo mix.
>>
>> A number of recording programs would allow you to record the output of
>> your
>> headphones using wasapi loopback.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> original message:
>>
>> Well, I'm not sure what the content I record have to do with this, the
>> point is when stereo mix is active, it should record what it can here.
>> I am on a laptop with build in audio realtek and a USB headset. At one
>> point it did pick up jaws at least but now its dead silent.
>>
>> On 27/11/2017, Michael Amaro <mikeam...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> are you trying to record off the net?
>>>
>>> --
>>> From: "Aidan" <aidan.smartt...@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 7:52 AM
>>> To: <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Subject: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard
>>>
>>> I have a laptop and so whenever I select the stereo mix option I just
>>>
>>>> get silents when recording. All the mute are uncheck and volumes up to
>>>> 100.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

Fwd: loop back audio was Re: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard

[David Bailes]

Hi Hank,
see option 2 on this page:
https://www.howtogeek.com/217348/how-to-record-the-sound-coming-from-your-pc-even-without-stereo-mix/

Note that as well as Audacity, there are other recording programs with this
feature.

David.


-- Forwarded message --
From: The wolf <hank.smith...@gmail.com>
Date: 28 November 2017 at 20:13
Subject: loop back audio was Re: stereo mix not working on realtech build
in soundcard
To: David Bailes <drbai...@gmail.com>


Hello I am changing the subject line so not to hi jack the thread

how does the loop back feature work?

I didn't even know you could do that

Hank



On 11/28/2017 1:08 PM, David Bailes wrote:

> Hi Aiden,
> you may well already be aware of the following, but I thought it was worth
> checking.
> The stereo mix input provided by the realtek chip allows you to record the
> audio output of the realtek chip. Are you sending any audio to the realtek
> speaker output? The usb headset is a different sound device, so any audio
> sent to your headphones won't be included in the realtek's stereo mix.
>
> A number of recording programs would allow you to record the output of your
> headphones using wasapi loopback.
>
> David.
>
> original message:
>
> Well, I'm not sure what the content I record have to do with this, the
> point is when stereo mix is active, it should record what it can here.
> I am on a laptop with build in audio realtek and a USB headset. At one
> point it did pick up jaws at least but now its dead silent.
>
> On 27/11/2017, Michael Amaro <mikeam...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> are you trying to record off the net?
>>
>> --
>> From: "Aidan" <aidan.smartt...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 7:52 AM
>> To: <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Subject: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard
>>
>> I have a laptop and so whenever I select the stereo mix option I just
>>> get silents when recording. All the mute are uncheck and volumes up to
>>> 100.
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard

[David Bailes]

Hi Aiden,
you may well already be aware of the following, but I thought it was worth
checking.
The stereo mix input provided by the realtek chip allows you to record the
audio output of the realtek chip. Are you sending any audio to the realtek
speaker output? The usb headset is a different sound device, so any audio
sent to your headphones won't be included in the realtek's stereo mix.

A number of recording programs would allow you to record the output of your
headphones using wasapi loopback.

David.

original message:

Well, I'm not sure what the content I record have to do with this, the
point is when stereo mix is active, it should record what it can here.
I am on a laptop with build in audio realtek and a USB headset. At one
point it did pick up jaws at least but now its dead silent.

On 27/11/2017, Michael Amaro  wrote:
> are you trying to record off the net?
>
> --
> From: "Aidan" 
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 7:52 AM
> To: 
> Subject: stereo mix not working on realtech build in soundcard
>
>> I have a laptop and so whenever I select the stereo mix option I just
>> get silents when recording. All the mute are uncheck and volumes up to
>> 100.
>>
>
>

Re: Audacity 2.2.0 has been released

[David Bailes]

Hi Don,
In the case of Audacity, the only two differences between using the
installer and the portable version are:
1. If you use the installer, the installed version is automatically
available to all users on the computer.
2. The portable version does not include a copy of the manual. However, you
can download this separately if you wish.

David.

original message:
I have a related question. I note that there is a full install version and
a portable version of Audacity. I have noted that many programs have
both a full
install and a portable version. So I conclude that there must be some advantage
of the full install over the portable version of a program. If this is
correct, just what is the advantage specifically in the case of Audacity?

Don Roberts

Audacity 2.2.0 has been released

[David Bailes]

For a summary of new features see:
http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/new_features_in_this_release.html

One of the new features is that clips are now accessible for users of
screen readers.

For Windows users, these are the direct links for Audacity 2.2.0:
1. The Installer version:
https://www.fosshub.com/Audacity.html/audacity-win-2.2.0.exe
2. The portable version:
https://www.fosshub.com/Audacity.html/audacity-win-2.2.0.zip

I've updated by Jaws guide to Audacity for version 2.2.0, and it's
available here:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-2.2.0-Guide.html

As previously, nearly all of this guide is also applicable to users of NVDA
and Window-Eyes.

Unfortunately, there is not a version of Audacity 2.2.0 which is usefully
accessible with VoiceOver on Macs. The most recent accessible version on
Macs is still the screen reader version of Audacity 2.1.1:
https://www.fosshub.com/Audacity.html/audacity-macosx-ub-2.1.1-screen-reader.dmg

David.

SV: Audacity and Jaws on Windows 10 creators update

[David Bailes]

Hi Brian,
Yes I've tested it in all the situations in which it used to crash, and it
seems now to be OK,

David.

original message:

Hi,
An this you have tested yourself?

Brian

Audacity and Jaws on Windows 10 creators update

[David Bailes]

Up until very recently, running Audacity and Jaws on the Windows 10
creators update could cause Audacity to crash. However, the good news is
that this has be fixed in the latest version of Jaws, version 18.0.4321.

David.

Re: Audacity Simple Question/Selecting from Cursor Position to End of Track and Deleting the Selection

[David Bailes]

Hi Robert,
you can find the Jaws guide here:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-2.1.3-Guide.html

In Audacity 2.1.3 the keystroke to stop playback and move the cursor to the
position where playback stopped in now the letter X, rather than Shift + A
in previous versions.

David.

original message:

Wher might I find this jaws guide?

On 9/25/17, Jesse Tregarthen  wrote:
> Hello David,
>
> The way I accomplish this task is by pressing shift-a while the file is
> playing. This stops the file and places the cursor at that place. Then press
> shift-end and that will select to the end of the file. In the new version of
> Audacity, a different command than shift-a is used and you'd have to ask
> somebody who uses that version or consult David Bales's guide on Audacity
> with JAWS. This guide does work when using other screenreaders. Hope this
> helps. Best,
> Jesse
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 11:28 AM, David Goldfield
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hello.
>>
>> I am just beginning to learn how to use Audacity to copy some old tape
>> recordings into mp3 format using an NLS C-1 tape player. I have
>> successfully installed the Lame encoder for saving to mp3 format. I'm
>> trying to do something which should be very simple.
>>
>> At times, I have a few extra seconds of audio at the end of a track that I
>> want to delete. What I want to do is to select from the cursor position or
>> from where I stopped playback up to the end of the track and delete that
>> selection. I see several options in the Edit menu under Select which seems
>> to be what I want but they never seem to work. I wind up deleting
>> everything or I select audio in the other direction. Could someone please
>> advise.
>>
>> Also, I am able to monitor what is on the tape while recording. I'm also
>> trying to monitor the tape prior to recording and this doesn't seem to be
>> happening. I'd welcome any advice. I don't need a lot of handholding as I
>> like to think I'm a quick learner.
>>
>> Many thanks.
>>
>> --
>> David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
>> WWW.David-Goldfield.Com> >
>
>

Audacity and Jaws on Windows 10 Creators update

[David Bailes]

If the audio editor Audacity is used with Jaws on Windows 10 Creators
update (version 1703), then Audacity can crash. Fortunately, there are no
problems with other screen readers, so you can use NVDA, for example, until
the problem is fixed.

Freedom scientific are already aware of the issue,

David.

Audacity 2.1.3 released

[David Bailes]

just to let any Audacity users on this list, that version 2.1.3 has just
been released. For the new features in this release, see this page of the
manual:
http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/new_features_in_this_release.html

Included in these new features is that labels are now easier to use for
users of screen readers. Please note that the default shortcut for
"play/stop and set cursor" has been changed to the letter X - it was shift
+ a in previous versions of Audacity.

There is a guide to Audacity 2.1.3 which is written for Jaws users, and
nearly all of it is also applicable to users of NVDA and Window-Eyes:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-2.1.3-Guide.html

For Windows users, a direct link to the new version is:
https://www.fosshub.com/Audacity.html/audacity-win-2.1.3.exe

Unfortunately for Mac users, the screen reader version of Audacity 2.1.1
remains the recommended version:
https://www.fosshub.com/Audacity.html/audacity-macosx-
ub-2.1.1-screen-reader.dmg

David.

Re: Probelsm with Audacity for Windows

[David Bailes]

Hi Frank,
this is a bug in audacity - it gets the file extension wrong. A work around
is to include the file extension in the file name edit box, that is, type
in a file name such as fred.wav, rather than just fred.

David.

original message:

Hi all, I am trying to convert a 16 bit .wav file to 8 bit 8000hz pcm using
Audacity for Windows and am running into a problem. Here are the steps I take:
a. Open the file in Audacity for Windows
b. Under Tracks I resample to 8000hz
c. Under File I select Export and in the save as drop down I pick "other"
d. I tab to file typw and set it to .waV
e. I tab again to encoding and set it to unsigned 8 bit
f. I give it a name and save it

The problem I am having is that it always saves in .aif format no matter what I
have it set to. It is as if it is not reading the setting in the format drop
down correctly. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Frank

Re: Audacity Mailing List

[David Bailes]

Hi Emanuel,
the list is active - here is this months archive:
http://www.freelists.org/archive/audacity4blind/08-2016

David.

original message:

The list it is not active

-Ursprungligt meddelande-
Från: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
<pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org>] För David Bailes
Skickat: den 29 augusti 2016 10:50
Till: pc-audio <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Ämne: Re: Audacity Mailing List

Hi Geoges,
to subscribe to the Audacity4Blind mailing list, send an email to
ecar...@freelists.org, with the two word subject: subscribe
audacity4blind.

David.

original message:

Hi, would like to subscribe to the Audacity mailing list please, thanks.

--
Georges Zeinoun
Timmerv. 6A ITR LGH1102, 54163 SKÖVDESWEDEN
Tel: +46 (500) 48 29 29
Mobile: +46 (73) 986 17 43

Re: Audacity Mailing List

[David Bailes]

Hi Geoges,
to subscribe to the Audacity4Blind mailing list, send an email to
ecar...@freelists.org,
with the two word subject: subscribe audacity4blind.

David.

original message:

Hi, would like to subscribe to the Audacity mailing list please, thanks.

--
Georges Zeinoun
Timmerv. 6A ITR LGH1102, 54163 SKÖVDESWEDEN
Tel: +46 (500) 48 29 29
Mobile: +46 (73) 986 17 43

RE: Audacity

[David Bailes]

Hi Gary,
The latest version of Audacity is 2.1.1, and this works with Windows 10. I 
think 2.1.0 worked as well.

For Audacity 2.1.1 there's a corresponding version of the guide which Brett 
referred to:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-2.1.1-Guide.html

David.

original message:
Does this version of the program work with Windows 10? 

Gary Ray 

-Original Message- 
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett 
Boyer 
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 2:24 AM 
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Subject: RE: Audacity 

Hi! This is a guide using JFW, but it is written very well and even if you 
are not a jaws user it's full of great information. 
The link to the audacity website is here as well. 
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-2.1.0-Guide.html 
hope this helps 
bb 

Re: audacity

[David Bailes]

Hi Ray,
Jim Gamage has put together some audio tutorials:
http://www.talking-computers.org.uk/jimonaudacity.html

There is also a guide to Audacity for Jaws users, which is also applicable to 
nvda and window-eyes users:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-2.1.1-Guide.html

There's an Audacity4Blind mailing list:
http://www.freelists.org/list/audacity4blind

Here's an overview of the types of plug-in which you can use with Audacity:
https://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Plug-ins

David.


original message:
Has anyone put together any tutorials and are there additional add-on fx 
plugins and where? 


Ray T. Mahorney 
WA4WGA 

Audacity 2.1.1 released

[David Bailes]

Audacity 2.1.1 has been released, and can be downloaded from the Audacity 
website:
http://audacityteam.org/

A direct link to the download is:
http://www.fosshub.com/Audacity.html/audacity-win-2.1.1.exe

I've updated my guide to Audacity for Jaws users, and it's available here:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-2.1.1-Guide.html

The guide is also nearly all applicable to users of NVDA and Window-Eyes.

Audacity 2.1.1 includes the following new features which are relevant to the 
users of screen readers: 
1. The transport status is now the first item in the status bar. This tells you 
whether Audacity is stopped, playing or recording, and whether it is Paused. 
2. There are four new playback keystrokes for checking a selected time range. 
3. There are two new playback keystrokes to help with aligning and pasting.
4. You can now move to the first track or the last track by pressing ctrl+home 
or ctrl+end respectively. 
5. You can now assign shortcuts to the commands for moving a track up, down, to 
top, or to bottom. The names of the commands are move focused track up, down, 
to top, and to bottom.

In the Introduction of the Jaws guide, there's a sub section on new features, 
where either details or links to the details of these new features are given.

David.

Re: Audacity help needed

[David Bailes]

Hi,
In audacity to select some audio so that you can apply an effect, you have to 
select one or more tracks, and a time range. So in your case where you want to 
apply an effect to all the audio in one of the tracks, then:
1. Make sure that the desired track is selected, and the other one is not 
selected. (pressing enter toggles whether a track is selected).
2. Select a time range which covers all the audio in the selected track. To do 
this press J to move the cursor to the start of the audio in the select track, 
and then press shift+K to move the end of the selected time range to the end of 
the audio in the selected track.
3. apply the effect.

Note that you can also change speed using the sliding time scale/pitch shift 
effect, if you set the initial and final tempo change settings to the same 
value. This effect produces better quality audio, but takes longer.

When you say picture fact broken, what do you mean by this?

For your information there's an Audacity4Blind mailing list on freelists:
http://www.freelists.org/list/audacity4blind
And there'a also a guide to Audacity for jaws users, which is also nearly all 
applicable to users of nvda and window-eyes:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-2.1.0-Guide.html

David.

original message:
Hi, I have to music tracks. I need to change the tempo of one of them. Every 
time I try to change the tempo, both of them change tempo. What am I doing 
wrong? And why is a picture fact broken? I can't get it to work.

Re: Fwd: [Audacity-users] Audacity version 2.1.0 is released!

[David Bailes]

Just to add that the new features include:
- A new recording meter which is more accessible - the peak level during a 
monitoring session can be read by screen readers
- A new improved Noise reduction effect, which replaces the noise removal effect
- A limited introduction of real-time preview for effects. This includes VST 
effects, and it's planned to extend real-time preview to other effects in 
future releases.
There's a guide to Audacity 2.1.0 for Jaws users, and nearly all of it is also 
applicable to users of NDVA and Window-Eyes:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-2.1.0-Guide.html

David.

Re: Latest version of Burnaware 6 wanted

[David Bailes]

Hi Brian,
the following page contains links to the free, premium and pro versions of 
burnaware 6.9.4:
http://www.burnaware.com/downloads/backup/v6.x/v6.9.4/

David.

original message:
Hi list, 

I know we are quite a lot, who use Burnaware for disk burning. 

I can't find Burnaware pro 6.9 anywhere. 

Could you maybe send me a dropbox link, or something similar to this 
specific version? 

It will be highly appreciated. 



Best regards 

Brian 

Re: Latest version of Burnaware 6 wanted

[David Bailes]

Hi Brian, 
the following page contains links to the free, premium and pro versions of 
burnaware 6.9.4: 
http://www.burnaware.com/downloads/backup/v6.x/v6.9.4/ 

David. 

original message: 
Hi list, 

I know we are quite a lot, who use Burnaware for disk burning. 

I can't find Burnaware pro 6.9 anywhere. 

Could you maybe send me a dropbox link, or something similar to this 
specific version? 

It will be highly appreciated. 



Best regards 

Brian 

Re: Audacity questions

[David Bailes]

Hi,
Is the part that you don't want at the beginning, middle or end, and roughly 
how long is it?

David.

original message:
Hi all, I have a couple questions I'm just leaving audacity, and I'm really not 
sure what to do I have an MP3 file from the lecture that I imported into 
audacity I am not sure how to select part I do not want can I please have some 
help in I appreciate our responses.

Re: Audacity questions

[David Bailes]

Hi,
assuming this 10 mins which you want to delete is in the middle of the audio 
(that is, not at the end or the beginning):
1. Make sure the track is selected. Pressing enter toggles whether the track is 
selected.
2. Move the cursor to the beginning of the section you want to delete. One way 
of doing this is to press spacebar to start playback, and then press shift+a at 
the desired position. The latter keystroke stops playback and moves the cursor 
to that position. Note that during playback you can use the left and right 
arrow keys to jump backwards or forwards by small increments and shift + left 
and right arrow keys to jump by larger increments.
3. Start playback again, and when you get to the end of the section which you 
want to delete press the right bracket key (which is two to the right of the p 
key). This sets the end of the selected time range to where you pressed the 
right bracket key.
4. Press the delete key, to delete the selected audio.
5. Export the audio to a new file (export audio is on the file menu).

Additional notes:
If the section of audio which you wanted to delete was the the beginning, then:
1. make sure the track is selected.
2. Move the cursor to the end of the section you want to delete.
3. press shift+home to set the start of the selected time range to the start.
4. press delete.

If the section of the audio is at the end:
1. make sure the track is selected.
2. move the cursor to the start of the section you want to delete.
3. press shift+end to set the end of the selected time range to the end.
4. press delete.

David.

original message:
It is like 10 minutes 

Sent from my iPhone 

 On Dec 5, 2014, at 3:41 AM, David Bailes david_bai...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: 
 
 Hi, 
 Is the part that you don't want at the beginning, middle or end, and roughly 
 how long is it? 
 
 David. 
 
 original message: 
 Hi all, I have a couple questions I'm just leaving audacity, and I'm really 
 not 
 sure what to do I have an MP3 file from the lecture that I imported into 
 audacity I am not sure how to select part I do not want can I please have 
 some 
 help in I appreciate our responses. 
 

Re: noise reduction with Audacity

[David Bailes]

Hi Dave,
the noise removal effect in audacity involves two steps. The first is to get a 
noise profile, and the second is to use that for noise removal.
Step one - get noise profile.
1. Select a small section of audio where there's only background noise. To do 
this first make sure the track is selected (pressing enter toggles whether the 
track is selected). Then select a time range which contains only background 
noise. One way of doing this is to press spacebar to start playback, press left 
bracket (next to letter p) where you want the start of the time range, press 
right bracket where you want the end of the time range, and press spacebar to 
stop. If you now press spacebar, this will playback only the time range, and so 
you can check that you've got just background noise.
2. On the effects menu, choose noise removal, and the dialog opens.
3. press the get noise profile button. The dialog closes.

Step two - use the profile for noise removal.
1. Select all the audio. You can do this by pressing ctrl+a.
2. On the effects menu, choose noise removal, and the dialog opens.
3. There are a number of settings for noise removal in the dialog, but to 
accept the defaults, just tab to the ok button and press it.

There is more info on noise removal on this page from the manual:
http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/noise_removal.html
And there's more info for users of screen readers in this guide:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-2.0.5-Guide.html

David.

original message:
Hi everybody,
I'm attempting to use Audacity to remove background noise from a sound file.  I 
need the benefit of anybody out there's experience as to how to use the noise 
reduction feature.  In other words, Help!  help!  Help!
Thanks in advance for any information.   Dave Trevino

RE: noise reduction with Audacity

[David Bailes]

Hi,
just to note that if you use ctrl+r to repeat last effect, you still have to 
select all the audio before pressing ctrl+r, otherwise you'll just correct the 
audio used to create the noise profile,

David.

original message:
Hi David, As a slightly quicker way, once you have your noise profile and the 
dialog is 
closed, just press Control-R to Repeat Last Effect.  This will bring up the 
Noise Removal dialog for the second process. All the best Steve

Re: Question: Rewinding in Windows Media Player?

[David Bailes]

Hi Alexandra,
In Windows vista and later you can do the following - not sure about xp. Tab to 
the seek slider. Pressing LEFT ARROW or RIGHT ARROW moves the playback backward 
or forward by one twentieth of the length of the track. If you add SHIFT or 
CTRL to these keystrokes, then the distance moved becomes one four hundredth or 
a fifth of the length of the track respectively.
If you're using vista, then you can get to the seek slider quicker by pressing 
ctrl+tab one or more times.

David.

original message:
Hi List,

I hope someone can help me. In school my students have to use windows media
player. I read in the menu that the short cut to rewinding or moving
backward in a track is supposed tob e control shift b. But in the menu it
keeps telling me that it is not available and the key stroke ctrl+shift+b
doesn't work either. What do I have to do to make it work? The fast forward
ctrl+shift+f works fine.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
Alexandra

Re: multi tracking with audacity

[David Bailes]

Hi Joe,
from your first message, I understood that the tracks started out in sync, but 
drifted out of sync after a time. Is this the case? If the tracks are out of 
sync by the same amount throughout the tracks, then there's a latency 
correction within audacity which you can set.

David.

original message:
could this be a synchronize issue between the two tracks? Could you for 
instance, replicate the problem in reaper? 
Thanks
Joe

Re: multi tracking with audacity

[David Bailes]

Hi Joe,
you should be fine with that cpu and ram. I don't know what the problem is, 
perhaps other background tasks are taking up some of the computer's resources.

David.

original message:
I'm using a home built PC with 2 gig of ram and a 2.5 gig processor and windows 
xp. With audacity tracks start drifting apart after about a minute. how much 
powser and ram is needed to stop this from happening? Thanks. Joe.

RE: Audacity Versus Reaper for Multitrack Recording

[David Bailes]

Hi Ted,
concerning the latency in Audacity.
There is a setting for a latency correction in audacity. In the preferences 
dialog, in the recording category, there's a latency correction edit box. The 
default value of the correction is -130ms, and the more negative the value, the 
larger the correction.
There are a couple of ways of adjusting this value so that tracks line up 
correctly.
1. The first is just to use trial and error. You don't need to get it more 
accurate than about 10ms.
2. The second is to use a method such as the one described in a guide to 
audacity for jaws users, which is available at:
http://goo.gl/Qi2CeD
In the recording section of this guide, there's a sub section on latency 
correction.

In addition to these two methods, I'm aware that someone is working on a 
plug-in to partly automate the measurement of the latency, but I'm not sure 
when this will be available,

David.

original message:
Personally, I could not get tracks to sync up together so that they sounded
correctly like they would in sonar or reaper.  If someone could tell me how
to make tracks line up the way they are supposed to, I would give it a try
again.

For example, while recording vocals, my second harmony part would not stay
with the first, and I did not know how to make it line up.

That is my two cents worth.

Audacity 2.0.5

[David Bailes]

Audacity 2.0.5 has been released. One of the recent new features which is 
available if you’re using Windows Vista or later, is that using the WASAPI 
audio interface you can record the audio being sent to a playback device even 
if your sound card doesn’t support “Stereo Mix”. I've updated my guide to 
Audacity for Jaws users, and it's available here:
http://goo.gl/Dzlt0Q
Nearly all the guide is also applicable to users of NVDA and Window-Eyes.

David.

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Re: Audacity 2.0.5

[David Bailes]

Hi Petro,
yes, there's a portable version available at:
http://portableapps.com/apps/music_video/audacity_portable

concerning recording a microphone and the audio going to a playback device, for 
example a screen reader. Audacity only helps you with recording the audio going 
to a playback device, in the absence of stereo mix.
To record the microphone and a screen reader, you need to send to audio from 
the microphone to the playback device. There are a couple of ways of doing this.
1. Your sound card may be able to do this. If it can, all you need to do is 
unmute the microphone input for that playback device. In vista and later, on 
the playback devices page of the sound dialog, open the properties dialog of 
the playback device, go to the levels page, and you should find an appropriate, 
set of controls for the microphone input: a slider, a mute button, and a 
balance button.
2. If you have windows 7 or later, then the audio from the microphone can be 
sent to the playback device using software. The disadvantage of this method is 
that there's an annoying lag. To do this,
on the recording devices page of the Sound dialog, open the properties dialog 
of the microphone, go to the listen page, and check the Listen to this device 
check box.

David.

original message:
Is this version available for the portable application of Audacity?

And,
are you saying it will record one's microphone (speech( and screen reader 
speech at the same time when recording?

Thank you.



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RE: Audacity 2.0.5

[David Bailes]

Hi Hamit,
not if you're using headphones...

David.

original message:
Ah, you'll get loop back from this though..

-Original Message-
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Bailes
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 11:58 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Audacity 2.0.5

Hi Petro,
yes, there's a portable version available at:
http://portableapps.com/apps/music_video/audacity_portable

concerning recording a microphone and the audio going to a playback device,
for example a screen reader. Audacity only helps you with recording the
audio going to a playback device, in the absence of stereo mix.
To record the microphone and a screen reader, you need to send to audio from
the microphone to the playback device. There are a couple of ways of doing
this.
1. Your sound card may be able to do this. If it can, all you need to do is
unmute the microphone input for that playback device. In vista and later, on
the playback devices page of the sound dialog, open the properties dialog of
the playback device, go to the levels page, and you should find an
appropriate, set of controls for the microphone input: a slider, a mute
button, and a balance button.
2. If you have windows 7 or later, then the audio from the microphone can be
sent to the playback device using software. The disadvantage of this method
is that there's an annoying lag. To do this, on the recording devices page
of the Sound dialog, open the properties dialog of the microphone, go to the
listen page, and check the Listen to this device check box.

David.



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RE: which sound editor?

[David Bailes]

Hi,
just to add that Audacity has a bass and treble effect which works the same way 
as bass and treble controls on an amplifier. It also has an equalization 
effect, which includes some preset curves.

David.



original message:
Audacity does do the speed thing, I'm not sure about the tape thing. SF does
the speed change but in your case it's unfortionate because it's SF Pro.




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Re: audacity

[David Bailes]

 Hi Joe,
In your steps, after you press the right bracket key, audacity is paused in 
playback. To be able to delete the selected audio, you have to press spacebar 
to stop the playback before you press the delete button. (You can't delete 
during playback).
 
David.
 
 
original message:
Hi. Using windows XP home, Jaws 14 and the latest audacity, I can't seem to 
edit voice files. Here's how I try. 1. In playback, I hit P to pause the audio 
where I want to set the start marker using left bracket. 2. P again to resume 
play till I get to where I want the finish marker then hit P again to pause 
audio. 3. right bracket to set finish marker. 4. press the delete key. This 
doesn't change anything when I replay the audio. What am I doing wrong. I've 
also tried to get to the start and finish positions quicker using the control 
and shift control keys combined with the right and left arrows. Can anyone 
please help? Thanks. Joe.


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Re: audacity

[David Bailes]

Hi Rich,
If you press pause before pressing the left bracket, then to resume playback 
then you can either just press P to resume playback, or as you suggest press 
spacebar to stop playback, then spacebar again to start playback.
And as you say, you have to press spacebar after pressing the right bracket to 
stop playback.
 
David.
 
original message:
After you press the left bracket, press space bar to exit pause mode. Then 
press space bar to the end of the section to be deleted.  Then press pause and 
right bracket and space bar again.  Now you can press the delete key.  However, 
you now have nothing within the brackets to hear, so you must move the brackets 
to hear anything. 
Rich De Steno

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Re: Is Audacity more accessible on the PC or the Mac, or doesn't it matter?

[David Bailes]

Hi Dave,
just out of interest, how to you separate the streams on XP?
 
David.
 
 
original message:
Unfortunately, that's what I thought. I'm trying to record programs on my PC 
like Rhapsody, YouTube streams, my Slingbox, etc. In XP, there's no problem 
separating these streams from JFW, but I can't do it in 7. Maybe the Mac is the 
way to go. 

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Re: Is Audacity more accessible on the PC or the Mac, or doesn't it matter?

[David Bailes]

Hi Dave,
Audacity is slightly more accessible on Windows than on a Mac. For more 
details, see the screen reader section of this page on Accessibility in the 
manual:
http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/accessibility.html
 
When recording on windows with a single sound card, then the screen reader will 
only be included in recording when you record stereo mix or what you hear.
 
David.
 
 
original message:
Subject pretty much says it. Are there any advantages or disadvantages using 
Audacity on one OS or the other? Also, I know you can't record on Windows 
without getting the screen reader in the recording unless you use 2 sound 
cards. Is it possible to record on the Mac with just 1 sound card and not 
record voiceover?


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Re: Is Audacity more accessible on the PC or the Mac, or doesn't it matter?

[David Bailes]

Hi Dave,
I'm not sure whether you're trying to record the audio that's being sent to the 
playback device, for example what's coming out of the speakers or the 
headphones.
If this is the case, then if you've got only one sound card, then audacity will 
record the screen reader as well.
But if you're recording from a microphone or line in, then the screen reader 
won't be recorded. You can select the recording device in audacity in all 
versions of windows.
 
David.
 
 
original message:
Thanks. How would I set Audacity in Windows to not record the screen reader? 
I'm sure this can be done in XP, but is it possible with 7 or 8?

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Re: Audacity

[David Bailes]

Hi Mark,
one way of getting the audio to switch between speakers is as follows. Let's 
assume that you've got a single track in the project, and that the audio in 
that track consists of someone saying welcome three times.
1. Select all the audio by pressing ctrl + a.
2. Duplicate the selected audio by choosing duplicate from the edit menu. You 
now have two track which contain the same audio.
3. Set the pan on the first track to fully left and the pan on second track to 
fully right. To open the pan dialog of the focussed track, press shift+p, and 
enter a number between -1 to 1 which corresponds to left and right. If you play 
the tracks then the voice is in the middle.
4. You can now pan part of the track by silencing the audio in one of the 
tracks for that part. For example, set the first track to be selected, and the 
second track unselected. Select a time range covering the first welcome, for 
example by using the [ and ] keys during playback, then open the edit menu, 
open remove audio or labels sub menu, and choose silence audio (ctrl+L). The 
first welcome now comes only from the right.
 
For general info on using audacity with a screen reader, see the following 
guide:
http://goo.gl/bZIXh
It's written for jaws users, but is also nearly all applicable to users of nvda 
and window-eyes.
 
David.
 
 
original message:
Hi can any one tell me using Audacity how do i get audio to switch between left 
speaker to right for efects then back again
for example 
welcome comes out of the left speaker then out of the right then back to the 
left
mark.


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Re: Audacity or GW

[David Bailes]

Hi John,
you can just save the guide to disk. There are a couple of ways of doing this.
First, you can open the context menu of the following link and choose save 
target as (or the equivalent for your browser):
http://goo.gl/bZIXh

Alternatively, if you have the guide open in a browser, you can choose save as 
from the file menu. In the save dialog, set the save as type combo box to web 
page, html only.
 
David.
 
original message:
Hi David, 
I'm wondering if there is an off-line version of the latest Audacity manual for 
the blind. 
Thanks, Blessings, John

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Re: program forbuilding a daisy book from audio files

[David Bailes]

Hi Andre,
you could have a look at obi, though I haven't used it myself:
http://www.daisy.org/project/obi
 
David.
 
original message:
Hi all 
Are there any programs available preferably free with which you can build a
daisy book from audio files? My old nokia e52 could actually do that using a 
daisy reader available from
Code Factory. Andre

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Re: RE: Audacity or GW

[David Bailes]

Hi Reed,
the free guide to audacity can be found here:
http://goo.gl/bZIXh
It's written specifically for Jaws users, but nearly all of it is also 
applicable to users NVDA and Window-eyes.
There's also an audacity mailing list for blind users, and details of this are 
given in the guide's introduction.
 
David.
 
original message:
Where will we find this free guide? -Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Rich De
Steno
Sent: May-29-13 2:19 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audacity or GW
Audacity is free and allows for multitracking with control over 
individual tracks.  It also has more extensive effects and better noise 
reduction than Goldwave, but it is more complex than Goldwave and takes 
longer to master. Goldwave has a reasonable price, but cannot 
multitrack.  The key strokes in Goldwave are easier to use.  Both work 
well with speech.  There is a free guide on using Audacity with speech 
which covers the main issues. Rich De Steno 

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Re: Making .mp3's from cassette using Audacity.

[David Bailes]

Hi Collin,
my guess is that the problem is that the option for sound activated recording 
is set to be on.
This can be switched off either on the transport menu, where there's a sound 
activated recording option, or in the recording category of the preferences, 
where there's Sound activated recording check box.
 
David.
 
 
original message:
Greetings, I know absolutely nothing about Audacity being a GoldWave user, but 
have
received the following from another person who needs help.
At the end of the correspondence, there is a DropBox link to a file she
created, so please, can somebody go back to her (she is not on the PC Audio
list so send privately and, if you wish, to the list). I reproduce the 
correspondence below. To: co...@pobox.com
Subject: converting cassettes to mp3
From: Janine Greening janine.green...@googlemail.com
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 22:35:49 +0100 Hello Colin I hope you don't mind me 
writing, but i know that you have been known to
convert cassettes to mp3, (i'm thinking of the archers), so i'm hoping you
may be able to help with a slight problem.  Basically, i
instaled audasity software on to my new laptop last week, (something which
i'd got on fine with on my previous laptop), and although the sound is fine
when recording, playing the files back is very  strange. Although the
overall quality is fine, the files seam to jump occasionally, so that parts
of words are missed, and the speed sometimes gets affected.  Some of these
recordings are archers tapes,
so you may understand what i mean, when I say that the gaps between scene
changes are totally missed, and i'll go from one scene into another with
know pause at all.  Do you have any suggestions about
settings i need to change? I've tried just playing around with it, but all i
seem to do is make the quality worse, or have know affect
at all, as i'm not as technically minded as some, i'm not as experienced.
If you like, i could up-load something  to dropbox and show you exactly what
I mean? I've converted a file to mp3 just to see
if it was something in audasity itself, and sent it to someone else to test,
and its having the same affect.  Again, I hope you don't mind me
writing.  Many Thanks, Janine 

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RE: Good Hum Removal Programme or Noise Reduction VST Plug-in

[David Bailes]

Hi Samuel,
concerning selecting the right amount of sound in audacity.
If you've selecting a time range using shift + left/right arrows etc, note that 
by default, the step size depends on the length of the recording - the longer 
the recording, the larger the default step size. However you can change the 
step size to what you want by using the zoom controls in audacity. Details can 
be found in this jaws guide to audacity:
http://goo.gl/dQ75G
In the moving the cursor section of the guide, there's a sub section on the 
Step size of the left and right arrow keys.
Alternatively, you may find it easier to use the [ and ] during playback to set 
the start and end of the selected time range. You can simply press spacebar to 
play, press [ to set the start, ] where you want the end of selection, and 
spacebar to stop playback. If necessary, you can then adjust the selection 
using shift + left/right arrow keys etc.
 
David.
 
original message:
I am having problems selecting the right amount of sound I need in Audacity
for using the get noise profile. I use shift left and shift right arrow
keys, and control shift left and control shift right arrow keys, but I am
finidng selecting audio rather difficult. 


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Re: Can audacity merge diff mp3 files into a single one?

[David Bailes]

Hi Prateek,
you can use audacity to merge mp3 files.
One way of doing it would be as follows:
1. Open the first file (ctrl+o).
2. press End to move the cursor to the end of the audio.
Then for each mp3 file you wanted to add on the end follow the next 3 steps:
1. Import the file (ctrl+shift+I). Importing adds a track to an existing 
project, and this track is selected, and the others deselected.
2. On the tracks menu, open the Align tracks sub menu, and choose align with 
cursor. This aligns the start of the audio in the selected tracks with the 
cursor.
3. Press end to move to the end of the audio.
After you've imported all the files, to save the audio, choose export from the 
file menu, and set the save as type combo box to mp3. Note that to save in the 
mp3 format you have to install the lame mp3 encoder, as described in the guide.
 
David.
 
original message:
Hello.

can Audacity 2.0 merge diff mp3 files into a single one?  I'm attempting to 
find a free software that is accessible to JAWS  and can do it on Windows7.


Prateek

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Jaws guide to Audacity 2.0

[David Bailes]

I've updated my Jaws guide to audacity to cover version 2.0. Nearly all the 
guide is also applicable to users of window-eyes and nvda. The guide is 
available here:
http://goo.gl/dQ75G


David.

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Re: Audacity 2.0 RC5

[David Bailes]

Hi Dean and others,
Audacity 2.0rc5 is a release candidate for Audacity 2.0, which will be released 
within the next few days. When that happens, it will be available from the 
audacity website.
Audacity 2.0 is very similar to the 1.3.14 beta version in terms of features, 
but several bugs have been fixed.
 
David.
 
original message:
I just saw that Audacity 2.0 RC5is available. I guess rather than get the old 
version out of beta they have gone to a new version. I have not tried it yet. I 
didn't use the old Audacity except to change the key of some audio files. I 
liked the way they did it in the beta.
Dean 

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Re: Audacity

[David Bailes]

Hi Colin,
I'm not sure what's going on. Could you check the length of the audio after 
you've first read the file into audacity, and then after you've chopped off the 
first five minutes, and before you've exported or saved it. You can check the 
length of the audio by:
1. press end to move to the end of the audio
2. press ctrl+f6 to move to the selection bar.
3. press tab until you get to the selection start control, which also gives the 
cursor position if there's no selection. Since the cursor is at the end of the 
audio, this will give the length of the audio. The format will probably be 
hh:mm:ss, so you'll hear something like 00h52m43s.
4. press ctrl+f6 twice to return to the audio tracks, which is where you were 
before pressing the ctrl+f6 in step 1.

Also, are you saving the file to mp3 format or as an audacity project?

David.


- Original Message -
From: Colin Phelan colin_phe...@pmlgroup.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, 2 December 2011, 13:48
Subject: RE: Audacity

Hi David,
Have you any idea what would cause this.
All going well, effectively chopped off front end of file saved as new name 
then imported new file using open command to chop end off it.
However, I have tried this on a number of occasions and the converted MP3 file 
to audacity format only seems to load about 60% of the file in other words the 
remaining 40% approx does not convert hence is not there to remove the end of 
it.
The total file length is around 50 mins 
Thanks for any ideas 
Colin 


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Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: 01 December 2011 16:08
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Audacity

Hi Colin,
you could chop off the front end in a similar manner:
1. move the cursor to the end of where you want to chop off (about 5 mins into 
the file in your case).
2. press shift + home, which selects a time range from the cursor to the start 
of the audio.
3. press delete.
 
So shift+home and shift+end work in a similar way that they work when editing a 
line of text.
 
David.
 
orginal message:
Hi David,
I'm getting there, if I want to chop the front end of a file off is it the same 
my question comes from The below points which I read to mean find where you are 
going to start to chop it then take off that to the end of the file but I may 
be mis understanding If I want to find the place around 5 mins into the file 
and remove the file up to this point what do I do 


2. move cursor to the start of the section which you want to chop off. This is 
described in detail below.
3. press shift + end to select a time range from the cursor to the end of the 
file, 

Many thanks 

Colin 

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Re: Audacity

[David Bailes]

Hi Colin,
forgot to ask you what versions of windows and audacity are you using?
thanks,
David.


- Original Message -
From: Colin Phelan colin_phe...@pmlgroup.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, 2 December 2011, 13:48
Subject: RE: Audacity

Hi David,
Have you any idea what would cause this.
All going well, effectively chopped off front end of file saved as new name 
then imported new file using open command to chop end off it.
However, I have tried this on a number of occasions and the converted MP3 file 
to audacity format only seems to load about 60% of the file in other words the 
remaining 40% approx does not convert hence is not there to remove the end of 
it.
The total file length is around 50 mins 
Thanks for any ideas 
Colin 


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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On 
Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: 01 December 2011 16:08
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Audacity

Hi Colin,
you could chop off the front end in a similar manner:
1. move the cursor to the end of where you want to chop off (about 5 mins into 
the file in your case).
2. press shift + home, which selects a time range from the cursor to the start 
of the audio.
3. press delete.
 
So shift+home and shift+end work in a similar way that they work when editing a 
line of text.
 
David.
 
orginal message:
Hi David,
I'm getting there, if I want to chop the front end of a file off is it the same 
my question comes from The below points which I read to mean find where you are 
going to start to chop it then take off that to the end of the file but I may 
be mis understanding If I want to find the place around 5 mins into the file 
and remove the file up to this point what do I do 


2. move cursor to the start of the section which you want to chop off. This is 
described in detail below.
3. press shift + end to select a time range from the cursor to the end of the 
file, 

Many thanks 

Colin 

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Re: Audacity

[David Bailes]

Hi Colin,
yes a fully sighted person would be able to see the length of the track, as 
there's a time scale running across the window above the tracks. Couldn't you 
find the selection start control?

David.


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From: Colin Phelan colin_phe...@pmlgroup.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, 2 December 2011, 15:18
Subject: RE: Audacity

David,
Version 1.3.13 beta with Win 7 
Not grasped your last support instructions 
With regard to length of file, would fully sighted person be able to view this 
just by looking at screen do you know?
Thanks 
Colin    


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Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: 02 December 2011 14:55
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audacity

Hi Colin,
forgot to ask you what versions of windows and audacity are you using?
thanks,
David.


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From: Colin Phelan colin_phe...@pmlgroup.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, 2 December 2011, 13:48
Subject: RE: Audacity

Hi David,
Have you any idea what would cause this.
All going well, effectively chopped off front end of file saved as new name 
then imported new file using open command to chop end off it.
However, I have tried this on a number of occasions and the converted MP3 file 
to audacity format only seems to load about 60% of the file in other words the 
remaining 40% approx does not convert hence is not there to remove the end of 
it.
The total file length is around 50 mins Thanks for any ideas Colin 


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Sent: 01 December 2011 16:08
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Audacity

Hi Colin,
you could chop off the front end in a similar manner:
1. move the cursor to the end of where you want to chop off (about 5 mins into 
the file in your case).
2. press shift + home, which selects a time range from the cursor to the start 
of the audio.
3. press delete.
 
So shift+home and shift+end work in a similar way that they work when editing a 
line of text.
 
David.
 
orginal message:
Hi David,
I'm getting there, if I want to chop the front end of a file off is it the same 
my question comes from The below points which I read to mean find where you are 
going to start to chop it then take off that to the end of the file but I may 
be mis understanding If I want to find the place around 5 mins into the file 
and remove the file up to this point what do I do 


2. move cursor to the start of the section which you want to chop off. This is 
described in detail below.
3. press shift + end to select a time range from the cursor to the end of the 
file, 

Many thanks 

Colin 

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Re: Audacity

[David Bailes]

Hi Colin,
these instructions are for version 1.3.13 of audacity.
To be able to export to mp3 from audacity you need to download and install the 
lame encoder, which isn't included with audacity for legal reasons:
http://lame1.buanzo.com.ar/Lame_v3.98.3_for_Audacity_on_Windows.exe
 
Then:
1. open the file.
2. move cursor to the start of the section which you want to chop off. This is 
described in detail below.
3. press shift + end to select a time range from the cursor to the end of the 
file,
4. press delete to delete the selected audio.
5. choose export on the file menu.
6. In the export file dialog, set the save as type combo box to mp3, change 
folder if nessary and type in a file name (usual stuff) and press save.
7. A metadata dialog will then open, just press ok.
8. Note that when you close audacity you'll get a save changes dialog. This is 
because you haven't saved the audio as an audacity project for further editing. 
Since you don't want to do this, just tab to the no button and press it.
 
The space key starts playback from the cursor position. The space key also 
stops playback, but does not change the cursor postion.
Moving the cursor:
1. home and end move the cursor to the start and end of the audio
2. comma and period move the cursor back and forward by a short period, 
shift+comma and shift + period by a long period.
3. during playback, you can press the [ key to mark the new cursor position, 
and then press space to stop.
4. during playback left arrow and right arrow seek back and forward by a short 
period, and shift + left arrow and shift + right arrow by a long period.
5. you can customize these short and long periods in the preferences dialog 
which you can open from the edit menu. In the playback category, there are 
short and long period edit boxes.
 
best wishes,
David.
 
original message:
Hi All,

I have not familiarised myself with audacity and have an immediate need
to cut a bit off a MP3 file.

I have uploaded the file into audacity but are then stuck

Can anyone give me idiot proof directions to chop a bit off the end of
the file please.

Many thanks 

Colin    



Colin Phelan
Associate Director
PML (Programme Management Limited)


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Re: Audacity

[David Bailes]

Hi Colin,
you could chop off the front end in a similar manner:
1. move the cursor to the end of where you want to chop off (about 5 mins into 
the file in your case).
2. press shift + home, which selects a time range from the cursor to the start 
of the audio.
3. press delete.
 
So shift+home and shift+end work in a similar way that they work when editing a 
line of text.
 
David.
 
orginal message:
Hi David,
I'm getting there, if I want to chop the front end of a file off is it the same 
my question comes from 
The below points which I read to mean find where you are going to start to chop 
it then take off that to the end of the file but I may be mis understanding 
If I want to find the place around 5 mins into the file and remove the file up 
to this point what do I do 


2. move cursor to the start of the section which you want to chop off. This is 
described in detail below.
3. press shift + end to select a time range from the cursor to the end of the 
file, 

Many thanks 

Colin 

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Re: Audacity

[David Bailes]

Hi TickPub,
yes, audacity 1.3.13 can run on windows xp, vista and 7,
David.


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Re: An Audacity Problem

[David Bailes]

Hi David,
have you tried using the [ and ] keys during playback to mark the start and end 
of the selection?
Could you be more specific about what you're getting stuck on?
In addtion to this list, there's also an audacity4blind list - details can be 
found in the help sub-section of the introduction section of the jaws guide to 
audacity.
 
best wishes,
David.
 
original message:
So, does anyone know if there is an Audacity tutorial?  I know just enough 
about it to be dangerous.  I have looked at the documentation for using it with 
Jaws, but for some reason I can't get it through my head how to move the cursor 
and mark a track so I can delete a short portion that I do not want in the 
recording.
I use Sound Forge, and Studio Recorder all the time and they seem so much 
easier to use.  But, I would like to learn Audacity because I occasionally have 
a client ask me about it, and I have discovered from the little I have used it 
that it really is a pretty good sound editor.

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Re: An Audacity Problem

[David Bailes]

Hi Dave,
the 1.3.13 beta version of audacity is much more accessible than 1.2.6 version 
and is reasonably stable. In addtion there's a guide for jaws users for this 
version, which can also be used by users of window-eyes and nvda. It's 
available here:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-1.3.13-Guide.html
I'm not sure what's causing the galvanized pipe effect, but it might be a 
latency problem. If you record additional tracks whilst listening to existing 
tracks, there are delays in audacity which cause the tracks not to be in sync. 
Audacity can automatically correct for this if the amount of latency is know. 
The recording section in the above guide covers the various options for 
recording, and also includes a method for measuring the latency. An alternative 
to that method would be just to time shift tracks, and find the latency by a 
sort of trial and error. Time shifting of tracks is covered in the more 
advanced editing section of the guide.
David.
original message:
Hi everybody,

I'm a new kid on the block.

I've downloaded Audacity 1.2.6 hoping for a free usable multitrack recording 
program.  I've run the output from a Zoom H D8 to the line_in jack of my sound 
card and am bringing a mike through the H d8.  .  My single track recording 
efforts went okay, but when I started adding tracks on the computer, suddenly 
the production sounded like it was being played through three or four feet of 
galvanized pipe.  Is it a phasing problem?  Is there a setting I need to 
change?  Would a later version of the program help[?  Thanks for any advice.


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Re: recording what you here in windows 7?

[David Bailes]

Hi Hank,
you don't have to find the empty space. If you select any device and open its 
context menu, then the option show disabled devices will be on this context 
menu.
If this option is not checked, then press enter whilst this is selected it to 
check the option.
 
David.
 
 
original message:
Hello I am not able to find the empty space to enable devices.
only 2 are showing up enternal mic and line in on my laptop
On 11/26/2011 5:54 AM, Kathy S. wrote: 
Hi, Hank and all! At long last, I found a way to do this in Windows 7. I
tried this and it works. I'd be curious to know if this works out for you
guys: Recording what you hear in Windows 7
At first glance, it may look like Microsoft disabled recording of
internal-or what you hear-sounds in Windows 7. Well, they didn't. It's a
little trickier, granted, but this is (often) a quick fix. To enable it:
1. Right click on the speaker icon in the system tray (bottom right).
2. Choose Recording Devices
3. In the empty white space, right-click and choose Show Disabled Devices.
You should see Stereo Mix appear in the list.
4. Right click on Stereo Mix and choose Enable.
5. Right click on Stereo Mix again, and choose Set as Default Device. Now you 
can record anything you hear through your speakers. If you don't
have a program that can record audio, you can get a nice one called Audacity
over here. (It's free!) 

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Re: Volume; Need some help here with Audacity thanks!

[David Bailes]

Hi,
assuming that the cassette to pc device uses a usb connection, and that you're 
using windows xp, then audacity probably can't control the recording level from 
within the program. However, you can adjust the recording level by adjusting 
the windows recording level of the device:
1. In the Control Panel, open the Sound and Audio Devices Properties dialog.
2. Move to the Audio page of this dialog, where there's a Sound recording 
default device combo box. Select the device in this combo box, and then Tab to 
the next control which is a Volume button, and press it.
3. A dialog opens, which contains a volume slider for the device.
 
David.

original message:
Hello All, need some help here with Audacity?
Would appreciate any help you can lend.
Ok, I am blind and now recording  cassettes to my PC using Audacity. I
bought the Grace cassette to PC device and now learning how to use it. My
major problem for now is that after copying a file over and saving it as
an MP3 file, it plays back very quiet barely enough to hear it. How do I
set Audacity to give me the same sound on each recording? Is there a
certain setting or what? I do not know what half of these words or
settings even mean. Is there a simple way of increasing the sound while
or before recording?

I have many of my own stories recorded on tape and read by my wife and
they are ok on the tape but very low on the playback in my media player.
I use the JAWS speech program to get around and it does ok for my basic
use.
Is there a button or a menu that I can go to in order to increase the
volume before recording or while recording or just before saving the
file?
Any help out there?
Thanks
(MMM)    

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Re: sync in WMP 12

[David Bailes]

Hi Cornell,
 
To manually sync files in wmp12:
First add items to the sync list by selecting them in the main list, press the 
appliction key, open
the add to sub menu, and choose sync list. ctrl+9 is the shortcut for adding to 
the sync list.
Then tab to the start sync button and press it (alt+s).
 
Note that the play, burn, and sync buttons change which list is shown after the 
main list. However, if for example you add a track to the sync list, as 
described above, then the sync list (together with the start sync button) is 
automatically shown. So normally you don't have to press the sync button before 
syncing items as described above.
 
David.
 
original message:
using WMP 12 on Win 7 and JFW 12 latest build. I found the sync button, but not 
sure of keys to sync files to my Stilletto.are there keystroke combos to find 
the actual music files and dropping into sync window? I was able to accomplish 
this in the previous version of WMP. thanks in advance!

Best Regards, Cornell


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RE: FYI foobar and winamp blog

[David Bailes]

Hi David and James,

to queue tracks that you've found in search, choose add to playback queue on 
the 
context menu. This seems to work.

David.

orginal messge:
HI James,

I found that you can use the search box in foobar to queue tracks by
finding your tracks via your search term, highlighting the track or tracks
you want to queue and then copying the tracks to the clipboard. Then you
close search box and going to the track you want to put the songs after
then paste the tracks from the clipboard. It isn't as quite as automatic as
winamp but it can be done. I'm sure there must be a plugin or component to
do this.

David Truong.


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Re: Foobar, ripping and a problem

[David Bailes]

Hi Christopher,
I think you need a Flac encoder, which you can download from this page:
http://flac.sourceforge.net/download.html
For windows, there's a choice of either an installer which puts the file 
flac.exe in a flac folder in programs, or alternatively a zip file which 
contains flac.exe which you put anywhere you want. The two direct links are:
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/flac/flac-1.2.1b.exe
http://sourceforge.net/projects/flac/files/flac-win/flac-1.2.1-win/flac-1.2.1-win.zip/download


David.

original message:
I'm trying to use the cd ripping feature in Foobar 2000 1.1.5.  I get the
conversion settings just the way I want them and hit convert, and then a
dialogue3 appears asking me for the location of the flac converter.  I've
scoured my drive and can't find it, nor can I find a .flac converter listed
in the installed components, nor in the installable components from the
site.  Foobar will in fact play .flac files just fine though, so I'm rather
confused.



How do I point Foobar to the .flac converter?



    Christopher Bartlett

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Re: Crackling sound in Win/7

[David Bailes]

Hi Morey,
I had a quick look around the web for examples of this problem, and it seems 
that it's not necessarily caused by problems with the sound hardware or driver 
- 
it can be caused by other drivers not working properly. You can check this by 
temporarily disabling certain devices in the device manager and seeing if the 
problem goes away. You can disable and then enable a device from the its 
context 
menu. It looks like the devices to check are the network adaptor, the modem, 
and 
tv tuner(if you have one). Note that you obviously shouldn't disable any core 
hardware that will stop your computer working completely. The following website 
was the source of some of this information. Note that there's no need to 
download their latency detector, since you're got a crackle detector already.
http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml

Unfortunately the chipset drivers can't be tested this way, since it would stop 
the computer working.
I'm afraid I've no knowledge of sound cards, I just use the realtek on-board 
sound,
best wishes,
David.

original message:
Hi David,  I had sighted assistance for this one as the Acer site is tough. 
According to their web site, the Win/7 drivers are not avavailable for my 
machine (model M1610) I even downloaded the Real Tech drivers, from Real Tech, 
and installed them. The end product was that it made the crackling worse, so 
back to the drivers that Win/7 installed from Microsoft. II have only 1 
alternative lefta new sound card. Is there a sound card that is any better 
than the other that you might recommend? Something from the Creative Labs 
people?
Thanks,  Morey Worthington


  

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Re: Crackling sound in Win/7

[David Bailes]

Hi Morey,
If Acer provide an audio driver for your computer for win7, then I would 
suggest 
trying these. Unfortunately, Acer's website isn't very accessible, but if you 
tell me the model number of your computer, the country where it was purchased, 
and whether you're using the 32bit or 64bit version of win7 I can have a look 
to 
see if it's available,

David.

original message:
Hello all, Have a Acer Computer with 2g memory and a 500gg hard drive, and it 
came with Win Vista.
The sound card was a on board one with Real Tech drivers. I did a fresh install 
of Win/7 and updated to the newest bill of Jaws 12. The audio drivers which 
were 
installed were downloaded form microsoft for the audio drivers.Now I have a 
whole bunch of crackling in speakers even when using certain keys on keyboard. 
Using microphone also causes crackling, but music such as MP3 has no problems 
except when pressing keys to get to it.I went to the system files and tried 
updating the audio drivers, but came back with message that proper drivers were 
installed.If this is a sound card or driver issue, any thoughts? Or, what may 
be 
a por what may be a proper new sound card for my problem??
Thanks, Morey Worthington


  

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Re: Looking for a CD utility

[David Bailes]

Hi Don,

There's a free version of burnaware which can be used for non-comercial use. 
It's a cd/dvd burning program, and it includes the option to display disk info.

You can download the program from the page:
http://www.burnaware.com/downloads.html
There are three download now links on this page, and the first one is for the 
free version. When you install it, it tries to install the yahoo toolbar unless 
you uncheck something.

After opening the program:
1. on the compilation menu, open the utilities sub menu and choose disk info.
2. A disk info window opens. In this window, there's a disk information tab 
which contains a list view which contains various properties, including the 
type 
of the disk.

David.

original message:
My Windows 7 64-bit machine came with a copy of Nero 9 which is not at all 
accessibleas far as I can determine. So I asked about cd burning programs and 
installed Express
Burn which was highly recommended. Although I am quite happy with Express Burn, 
the program lacks one feature of earlierversions of Nero which I really like. 
Specifically, the ability to examine a CDand determine whether it is a cd or 
cdrw, or possibly a DVD or DVDRW. So is therea utility out there which will run 
on a Windows 7 64-bit machine which will perform
this function?  If so, what is it and where can it be found? Thanks. Don Roberts


  

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Re: Question for Audacity users

[David Bailes]

Hi Larry,

The suggestions were not Jaws specific. Although Audacity is not completely 
accessible, a large part of it can be used with Jaws, Window-Eyes, and NVDA. 
I'm 
not sure about system access, and I don't think it's as accessible using 
voiceover at the moment.

Regarding applying an effect to a single track. Since posting my reply, I've 
realiized that there's something else that might be the problem. In audacity, 
to 
select audio, you have to select one or more tracks, and also a time range. 
However, there's an option, select all audio in project if none selected, and 
by 
default this is on. So if you've selected a single track, but no time range, 
then when you apply an effect it will automatically select all tracks and a 
time 
range which covers all the audio, and then apply the effect to everything. The 
best thing to do is to disable this option. In the preferences dialog, it's 
under the tracks category (see the selecting audio section of the jaws guide 
for 
more details about this option).

To select the audio in a single track, prior to applying an effect:
1. Set the track to be selected, and the others unselected.
2. To select a time range with covers the audio in the selected track, press 
the 
letter j to move the cursor to the start of audio in the selected track, and 
then shift+k to select a time range up until the end of the audio in the 
selected track. (pressing k on its own moves the cursor to the end of the audio 
in the selected track or tracks). See the moving the cursor and selecting audio 
sections of the jaws guide for more details.

David.





original message:
Hi David. Thanks very much for your suggestion. One additional question though. 
Are these suggestions specific to Jaws? I have Window-Eyes, System Access and 
of course, for the Mac, Voiceover. Whether or not your suggestions are Jaws 
specific, I'll take a look at the link you suggested. Thanks very much. 

Larry



  

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Re: Question for Audacity users

[David Bailes]

Hi Larry,

I presume that you're using a recent version of Audacity (latest version is 
1.3.12).
If a track is the focus, then pressing enter toggles whether that track is 
selected or not, but it has no effect on whether the other tracks are selected. 
So if if you want only one track to be selected, you need to go through the 
other the other tracks and set them to be not selected if necessary. You may 
find the keystroke ctrl+shift+a helpful, as this sets all tracks (and any 
selected time range) to unselected.
There's a Jaws guide to audacity at http://bit.ly/axYol6 which you may find of 
some help,

David.

original message:
Hi. My problem occurs when I want to apply effects to one specific track from 
those that I have opened and imported. It happens whether using the Mac or 
windows version of Audacity. 

According to an Audacity demo that I found on BlindCoolTech, my impression is 
that if you wish to select one specific track, you make sure that it is in 
focus and press enter on it. However, when I do that, all tracks are selected, 
effectively blocking me from working with one of the tracks only. 

Any thoughts on what I might be doing wrong? It's not an accessibility issue, 
because the guy doing the demo was blind and using a Mac. So it's me and I'd 
like to find out what I'm doing wrong. 

Larry



  

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Re: Audacity Group?

[David Bailes]

Hi Larry,
there's a mailing list for blind audacity users at:
http://www.freelists.org/list/audacity4blind
-there isn't much activity currently on this list, but one of the audacity team 
members seems to keep a look out for any questions.
 
There's also an audacity users mailing list, which has a small number of blind 
users. Initially you can just send an email to:
audacity-us...@lists.sourceforge.net 

David.

original message:
Hi. I believe this question has been asked before, but I missed the answer. I'm 
looking for a group that features discussions on Audacity. Meanwhile, I'm 
wondering if anyone knows of accessible Mac or windows mixing software, priced 
in the shareware range. 

Thanks in advance for any thoughts.



  

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Re: audacity

[David Bailes]

Hi Robert,

there's a vocal removal page on Audacity's wiki:
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/index.php?title=Vocal_Removal
- my understanding is that simple methods for vocal removal aren't that 
satisfactory.
 
There's a mailing list for blind audacity users at:
http://www.freelists.org/list/audacity4blind
-there isn't much activity currently on this list, but one of the audacity team 
members seems to keep a look out for any questions.
 
There's also an audacity users mailing list, which has a small number of blind 
users. Initially you can just send an email to:
audacity-us...@lists.sourceforge.net 
 
David.

original message:
Since no one had an answer to my question. Does anyone at least know of a list 
group for audacity users?



  

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Re: Windows 7 - how to question continued

[David Bailes]

Hi Brett,

it sounds like the audio driver after the reinstall isn't the same one that was 
there prior to the reinstall. You may be able to download an audio driver for 
your laptop from the dell website, or it may be easier to contact dell's tech 
support.

David.

original message:
Hi. Great tips but here is my problem: I had to do a windows 7 reinstall on my 
dell pc a few weeks ago. After I did that I don't see any other inputs on the 
speakers properties lels tab. I used to see this. So now when I read comercials 
for the radio station I can either 

a have no sound and hope for the best when I play back. b Check the listen to 
option on my microphone and try to read with a delay which is very hard. 

I seem to have just a regular onboard sound that came with this new dell. Any 
help would be apreciated. bb 



  

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Re: Windows 7 - how to question

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Hi,

If your sound card can monitor the input then:
1. Open the Sound dialog in the control panel on the playback page. A couple of 
ways of opening this are either to type change sound into the start menu, or 
from the context menu of the speaker icon in the notification area.
2. In the list on this page, select the current output device, and then open 
its 
properties dialog. You can do this either by pressing spacebar, or choosing 
properties from its context menu.
3. Go to the levels page of the properties dialog. This should contain a 
slider, 
mute button, and balance button for each of the inputs that it can monitor.

Alternatively, windows 7 also provides a software playthough for any device, 
though it does have a slight lag:
1. Open the sound dialog on the recording page.
2. In the list on this page select the device you want to monitor, and open its 
properties.
3. On the listen page of the properties dialog, check the listen to this device 
check box.

David.

original message:
Hi all:
How to configure 'input monitor' on W7 system, please?
Thanks,
-

Pawel


  

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Re: audacity

[David Bailes]

Hi Robert,

there's a jaws guide to audacity available at:
http://bit.ly/axYol6

1. to apply an effect to a single track, make it the only track selected (enter 
toggles whether a track is selected). Then select a time range, for example, if 
you press J, then shift+k, this selects a time range covering all the audio in 
the selected tracks. Then apply an effect - see the track table, moving the 
cursor, and selecting audio sections of the guide for more details.
2. mute and solo control which tracks are played back - see the more advanced 
editing section for more details.

David.

original message:
I'm having trouble figuring out how to isolate tracks to add separate effects 
for each track. then play back all tracks  to hear how they sound. 
1. are their jaws scripts 
2. Is there a tutorial written for blind users?



  

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Re: windows7 and audio inputs

[David Bailes]

Hi brian,

there's some info in the sound dialog in Vista and windows 7 section of this 
guide to audacity:
http://bit.ly/axYol6

Stereo mix is often disabled by default, so you'll probably need to change the 
setting to show disabled devices and then enable stereo mix,as described. Also, 
if you're using window-eyes or nvda rather than jaws, then from what I 
remember, 
these screen readers read all three lines of text for each item on the 
recording 
page, so there's no need to mess around with the Jaws/mouse cursor if you need 
to read all three lines of text.

David.

original message:
Hi, i have got a new computer with windows seven. can anyone tell me, where it 
has hidden, the settings for stereo mix, and line-in. i have the rnib five 
volume manual, but can't find the information in it. if it is there, perhaps 
someone could direct me to the right section. brian. 



  

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Re: issues with volume when recording threw audacity

[David Bailes]

Hi Dave,

Do you have this program only when using audacity? For example, if you use 
window's sound recorder program, is there the same problem.? 

Also, some more info may help me or others on the list work out what the 
problem 
is: What version of windows and audacity are you using, and which microphone?

David.

original message:
hi all. i am recording my voice and i have all the faders in the volume control 
tab turned up to about 95 per cent however i am stil recieving really soft 
audio btw i cant access the agc control link in the advanced button after the 
volume input button  can any one help? 
regards dave


  

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Re: Enabling What you Hear on Windows 7

[David Bailes]

Hi Samuel,

to enable what u hear, stereo mix or whatever it's called on windows 7:
1. Go to the recording page of the sound dialog, which you can open from start 
menu, or the the context menu of the volume icon in the notification area.
2. In the list of devices, by default disabled devices aren't shown, and stereo 
mix is disabled. To show disabled devices, open the context menu of any item in 
the list, and choose show disabled devices if it isn't checked. Stereo mix ( or 
whatever) should then appear in the list. To enable it, choose enable from its 
context menu (if it's already enabled, then disable rather than enable appears 
in the menu.)

Note that if what you hear doesn't appear in the list after setting the 
option to show disabled devices, then this may be because your current sound 
driver doesn't support it. You could try and find a more recent one for your 
computer/laptop/motherboard.

David.

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Hello everyone, does anyone know how to enable what you hear on Windows 7? 



  

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Re: Windows Media Player controls

[David Bailes]

Hi Bob,

the modifiers work in wmp 11, and wmp 12 on windows 7, but I've been told that 
they don't work on wmp 10. However, even for wmp 11, and 11 the modifiers 
aren't listed in the help files.

David.

original message:
I wonder if those modifiers work with WMP 10 because I never got them to do 
anything different on my two computers running 10. Are the modifiers listed in 
the help file? I couldn't find them. Maybe they only work in WMP 11? 
Bob



  

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Re: Windows Media Player controls

[David Bailes]

Hi Bob,

I found the modifiers by trial and error, just hoping that there might be some 
way to change the increment. I've since seen them mentioned for wmp 12 on a 
microsoft windows blog, but it seems crazy that they are not included in the 
list of shortcuts in help.

David.

original message:
Thanks for the clarification, David. How did you find those modifiers for 11 
and 12? 
Bob


  

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Re: Windows Media Player controls

[David Bailes]

Hi Dane,

the seek increment for the arrow keys is one twentieth of track length. Other 
increments are available using modifier keys:
1. ctrl + arrow keys, one fifth of track length.
2. shift + arrow keys, one four hundredth of track length.
3. ctrl + shift + arrow keys, one eight thousandth of track length.

David.

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Hi!

Does anyone know how one adjusts the seek time for Windows Pedia Player?



  

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Re: recording multiple inputs in windows 7

[David Bailes]

Hi Brett,

my understanding is that Audacity can only record a single device. So if you 
want to use audacity you could either use a hardware mixer as input or get 
windows 7 to do the mixing. To do the latter:
1. Enable software playthrough for both the microphone and the line in. On the 
recording page of the sound dialog, for each device, select it, press spacebar 
to open its properties dialog, go to the listen page, and check the listen to 
this device check box.
2. Record stereo mix or whatever it's called on your sound card.

David.

original message:
Ok. I have a windows 7 machine and I'm running the latest beta from audacity. 
The only problem, so far, is I cannot record my line-in combined with my front 
mike. I've checked and unchecked different properties in the sound pannel. I 
can record one or the other.
Any ideas?
bb
Brett Boyer



  

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Re: Searching by bit rate

[David Bailes]

Hi Hank,

to search by genre, you can use search terms such as genre:rock and 
genre:classical. Note spelling of genre.

David.


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hello what about johnrahs?



  

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Re: how to access track info using Windows Media Player 11

[David Bailes]

Hi Tom,

Unfortunately, I don't think there's a way in wmp to go to a place in a track 
by specifying a time,

David.

original message:
Hello David and list: Just wondering..is there any way (in WMP)..to go exactly 
to a certain place in the track or file as you can in Winamp? Tom Kaufman 


  

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Re: Searching by bit rate

[David Bailes]

Hi Barry,

You should be able to do this with the advanced query syntax available in 
windows:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/desktopsearch/technicalresources/advquery.mspx

For example to search for files with 320k bit rate, the search term to enter 
would be bitrate:320kbps. If you wanted to narrow it down to mp3 files rather 
than any music file, then you have to add the term *.mp3 (just separate the 
terms by a space).

In Vista and Windows 7 you can use this syntax in the search box in windows 
explorer. With the windows explorer window open, just press ctrl+e to move to 
this search box. By default,  all folders below the current location are also 
searched.

I'm not very familiar with using the syntax in windows xp. Apparently you have 
to use Windows Desktop Search, but I've never used it.

David.

original message:
Does anyone know of a program which I can use to get a list of MP3 files on my 
PC which are recorded at a specified bit rate, for 
example, 320k.

Thanks,
Barry Chapman 


  

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Re: how to access track info using Windows Media Player 11

[David Bailes]

Hi joanne,

1. Using Jaws 10 you can read the name of the currently playing track by 
pressing insert+ctrl+t.

2. As someone has already said, you can seek back and forward by moving to the 
seek slider, just press ctrl+tab once or twice to move to it. Pressing the 
arrow keys moves you by one twentieth of the track length. Pressing shift + 
arrow keys moves you by one four hundredth of the track length.

3. From the seek slider, you can tab twice to move to current position edit 
box, which by default contains the playback position.

For more details, see the playback controls area section of the jaws guide to 
wmp 11 which Dean mentioned. Just in case the long url got broken, here's a 
short url to that guide,
http://bit.ly/cKZxVR

David.

original message:
I know there are different modes and menus one can set to hopefully make WMP as 
accessible as possible, but I need help doing so.  I am used to Winamp giving 
me the track title and length, etc., but I can't find this info when playing 
tracks in Media Player.  Using Jaws 10 or 8 with XP Home.  Right now I need to 
use WMP, and I see lots of buttons and menus and possible modes or skins to 
use; but I'd like to know what settings would make it clear-cut and how I can 
find specific info about the currently playing tracks. Would appreciate any 
detailed help.  Thanks. 



  

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Re: Windows media player 11 and jfw 11

[David Bailes]

Hi Jason,

current playing track: Insert + Ctrl + T.

David.

original message:
Hi all,
How do you make JFW tell you the title of the currently playing track?
I know how to do it in win amp, but I'm forced to use WMP at work.

Thanks,
Jason




  

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Re: Windows media player 11 and jfw 11

[David Bailes]

Unfortunately, insert+ctrl+T has always just worked for me using wmp 11, and 
Jaws 10 and higher,

David.

orginal message:
Never seems to work too well. Do I need to change some setting in WMP to
make it easier for JFW to read the track



  

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Re: Audacity

[David Bailes]

Hi,

After you press the ] key to mark the end of the selection, are you pressing 
space to stop playback before you press the delete key? You can't delete during 
playback.

David.

original message:
Hi,

I'am trying Audacity. Ive installed the last beta version, but I can't use it. 
For example, I don't know how to do a selection. I'am following the guide that 
someone has linked: I press space to play audio, then p, then the [ key, p 
again and then the ] key for ending the selection, but when I press delete to 
delete the audio it doesn't delete it. 

Why?

Thanks in advance.




  

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Re: Audacity

[David Bailes]

Hi Mario,

a couple of things to check:
1. Is the focus in the table of tracks? (ctrl+f6 cycles round toolbars, track 
table, and selection bar)
2. Is the track selected? When you open a file, the track is initially 
selected, and pressing enter toggles the selection of the focussed track.

David.

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[David Bailes]

Hi Mario,

another thing to check: after you've selected the time range, if you press 
space to play/stop, it should play only the selected time range. Does this 
happen?

David.


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Re: Audacity

[David Bailes]

Hi Mario,

two more things to try:
A. Just check on the About dialog on the Help menu that you're definitely using 
Audacity 1.3.9.

B. Maybe there's some problem with using the [ and ] keys on an Italian 
keyboard. You could try the following method which uses commmands on menus 
rather than the [ and ] keys:

1. Press space start playback.
2. press p to pause where you want selection to start.
3. Open the edit menu, press s to open the select sub menu, and then choose 
left at playback position.
4. press p to resume playback.
5. press p where you want selection to end.
6. open the edit menu, press s to open the select sub menu, and then choose 
right at playback position.
7. press space to stop playback.

David. 


  

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RE: audacity

[David Bailes]

Hi 

Yes, noise reduction is available within audacity - here's the page in the 
manual:
http://manual.audacityteam.org/index.php?title=Noise_Removal

David.

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Does audacity offer any kind of noise reduction or audio cleanup functions?



  

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Re: audacity

[David Bailes]

Hi,

You can find the position of the cursor, and the playback position in the 
Selection bar. Ctrl+F6 cycles you round the toolbars, the table of tracks, and 
the selection bar. When you open Audacity you're initially in the table of 
tracks, so to move to the Selection bar, just press ctrl+f6. You can then move 
through the controls in the selection bar by pressing tab. These controls 
include controls for selection start and audio position. When there's no 
selection, then selection start shows the postion of the cursor. For more 
details, see the Selection bar section of the following guide:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-1.3.9-Guide.html

The equivalent of Goldwave's queue points are labels, which are contained in a 
label track. Unfortunately, these label tracks are not very accessible at the 
moment: creating labels is ok, but once the labels are created, if you tab 
through the label track, the labels are not read by screen readers. However, 
there's an Edit Labels editor (opened from the tracks menu) to get round this 
problem. This contains a table of the labels, with their names, start and end 
points.j Note that Jaws 11 doesn't read this editor properly, but this will be 
fixed in an Audacity release, hopefully in December.

To create a label for the current cursor postion or current selection, press 
ctrl+b, type in a name, and then press enter.
To create a label for the current playback position, press ctrl+m, type in a 
name, and then press enter.
Note that in both these cases the focus is moved to the label track. Because 
it's easy to accidentally create a label when the focus is in the label track, 
it's normally best to move back to an audio track after creating a label (up 
arrow moves you up a track).

Do post any further questions you have,
David.






original message:
Two things.  Where on the screen do I look to see how far I'm into the track? 
Is there a way of setting queue points as in gold wave.



  

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Re: Moving through Files in Windows Media Player

[David Bailes]

Hi Samuel,

Using the seek slider in wmp 11, you can move through the following fractions 
of the length of the track:
1. Arrow keys move you one twentieth.
2. ctrl + arrow keys move you one fifth.
3. shift + arrow keys move you one four hundredth.
4. shift + ctrl + arrow keys move you by one eight thousandth.

A quick way of moving to the slider is to press ctrl + tab, one or two times.
Also ctrl+shift+f toggles fast forward.

David.

original message:
Hello there, I'd like to know how I can move through files in percentages in
Windows Media Player. I know there's the seek slider but I don't know of any
other way of rewinding or fast forwarding. I'm trying to do this with an
Audible book. I'm using Window-Eyes 7.11. 

 

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Re: Jaws guide for BBC iplayer

[David Bailes]

Hi Vicky,

thanks for the feedback. As Ray has already said, the iPlayer website is run by 
the BBC, which gets a licence fee from everyone who watches live tv in the uk. 
Alas I have no suggestions for the usa, where the funding is quite different.

David.


original message:
I've just read your excellent users guide for the iPlayer and was very 
impressed! Your thorough explanation will make it completely usable. 

Does the RNIB put out the iPlayer?

I live in the states and I know of no such wonderful accessability to 
entertainment here. Do you have any suggestions as to how we could get such a 
service here? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! 

Sincerely, Vicky Vaughan


  

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Re: Jaws guide for BBC iplayer

[David Bailes]

Hi Ray,

regarding the native accessibility of flash, here's a tutorial on Adobe's 
website (and it's an accessible flash movie):

http://www.adobe.com/accessibility/products/flash/tutorial/

David.


original message:
Hahaha, RNIB could never ever develop anything like the IPlayer.  The BBC
developped it, although the Beeb used a pre-existing development of the Flash
Player for internet streaming from Siemens. See,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/06_june/27/iplayer.shtml

Accessability was grafted onto the IPlayer by a team within the Beeb after
much complaint from UK listeners re. lack of accessability.  Siemens isn't
noted for its comitment to accessability, hence the BBC's effort after the
launch of IPlayer.  It should, of course, have got it right before launch but
then we're familiar with access as an after thought.

I often wonder whether Adobe couldn't build more native accessability into
Flash but I believe there are documented methods of binding keystrokes to
actions or facilities provided by flash, but I don't know enough to say more, 
as it must be obvious my knowledge is rather thin here.

Ray



  

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Jaws guide for BBC iplayer

[David Bailes]

I've written a Jaws guide for the BBC iPlayer website, and it's available at:
http://tinyurl.com/q58knt

Also, there was an interesting article on the BBC internet blog in june which 
includes details of codecs and bitrates of their audio streams:
http://tinyurl.com/lpwf58

David.



  

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Re: about eye player

[David Bailes]

Hi Iram,

As far as I can see, BBC Urdu is not available using the BBC iPlayer. The 
Accessible iPlayer programs allow you to listen to the same content as that 
available using the BBC iPlayer, so you won't be able to listen to BBC Urdu 
using these programs either.

However, there is a BBC Urdu website:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/

I assume that the site is written in urdu, which I don't understand. However 
there are several links to video and audio. These are played on a new page, 
where the playback starts automatically, and the playback controls are buttons.

David.

original message:
hello list members
I need some information on BBC I players. from where we can find it? is it 
blindly friendly? I want to listen BBC Urdu. any guidance will be appreciated 
thanks in advance 
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RE: about eye player

[David Bailes]

Hi Iram,

The accessible programs from webbie are installed in the Accessible and Webbie 
folder in the all programs menu. The program BBC iplayer Radio in that folder 
has some useful help - just press F1. There's also a guide available at:
http://tinyurl.com/kk55c5

David.


  


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Re: WMP Issue

[David Bailes]

Hi Mark,

you could try using the seek slider, which you can quickly move to by pressing 
ctrl+tab one or two times. The arrow keys move you by one twentieth of the 
track length, and shift + arrow keys move you by one four hundredth of the 
track length,

David.




original message:
Hi folks,

For some reason I've got a problem with WMP version 11, in that I can't get any 
media to back up...the 'Rewind' button is always shown as unavailable. 

Normally I'm a Winamp user, but for some reason the protected files I'm trying 
to play seem to be causing a problem, or at least that's the only reason I can 
think for Winamp crashing, resulting in the whole system hanging. There WMA 
files if this sheds anymore light on the subject. TIA. 

Regards,

Mark


  


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Re: New to audio production

[David Bailes]

Hi Martin,

here are some more detailed instructions for using Audacity to create the 
example you wanted.


1. Open audacity.

2. On the track menu, open the add new sub menu, and choose Audio track 
(ctrl+shift+n).

3. Open the Tone generator dialog from the Generate menu. In this dialog, the 
duration control is like a spin box. By default, the format is seconds which 
are grouped into two groups of three digits, and the default time is thirty 
seconds. To change this to one second, press End to move to the last digit, 
press left arrow to move to the digit 3, and then type in the digits 0 and 1. 
Note Jaws then reads out zero zero zero, but that's because the focus has 
wrapped around to the first group of three digits.

4. The generated tone is selected, so to deselect this and move the cursor to 
the end of this selection, press right arrow.

5. Open the silence generator dialog from the Generator dialog. Although the 
default duration is read out as zero, this is a bug, and in fact it's 30 again. 
So to change it to one, press end to move to the last digit, and follow the 
insructions in step 3.

6. The silence is selected.  Select all the audio by pressing ctrl + A, and 
then choose duplicate from the edit menu. so that you now have two identical 
tracks. You can move the focus between the tracks by pressing up arrow and down 
arrow.

7. Both tracks are selected, and a time range covering all the audio is 
selected. To deslect track 1, move to the first track and press enter, which 
toggles the selection of a track. So with track two selected,  choose the 
Reverse effect from the Effects menu. Track two now contains silence followed 
by the tone, rather than the other way round in track one.

8. Set the pan control of track one to fully right, and the pan control of 
track two to fully left. To change the pan of the focussed track, press
shift+P which opens a pan dialog. Type in 1 for pan to right, and minus 1 for 
pan to left.

9. Select all the audio by pressing ctrl+a, and then open the repeat dialog 
from the effects menu. specify how many repeats of the selected audio you want.

10. Press home to move the cursor to the start, and then spacebar to play/stop.

The Jaws guide I mentioned has more details:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-1.3.8-Guide.html

David.

original message:
I am a complete new comer to the world of audio editing. I would like to make 
an audio file consisting of two channels. That is to say, different information 
being presented to each ear piece simultaneously. Would this be possible using 
a programme such as Sound Forge. I have a demo copy of version 9, but it all 
seems rather daunting to me.
Any suggestions would be very helpful.
Martin



  


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Re: Audio Editing Software

[David Bailes]

Hi George,

The latest release of Audacity is 1.3.8 which came out at the end of the last 
week. Although a small number of people have had problems installing it on XP, 
the developers are working on the problem, and there is a temporary fix if 
needed. There's a new version of the Jaws guide which someone else referred to, 
and it's available at:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-1.3.8-Guide.html

If you've got a recording which you want to save as separate tracks, then you 
could do something like this:

Make sure the track is selected (enter toggles the selection). Press home to 
make sure you're at the beginning of the track. Then go round the following 
loop:
1. Press P to play, and then press ] at the point where you want the track 
segment to end, and then spacebar to stop the playback.
2. There's now audio selected, and you can save this by choosing Export 
selection from the file menu.
3. After the export, press right arrow which deselects the current selection 
and moves the cursor to the end of that selection, so that you're ready to go 
round the loop again.

Note that several ways of moving the cursor and refining which audio is 
selected are given in the guide.

David.


original message:
I am in the process of converting cassette to computer and I'm looking at
audio editing software that is accessible to VIPs. I'm using Audacity at the
moment but am finding it hard splitting tracks with this software.


Kind Regards,

George Cham


  

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RE: Audio Editing Software

[David Bailes]

Hi Katherine,

If you have any specific pains in mind, then let me know and I can pass these 
on the the Audacity developers who are keen to improve its accessibility,

David.



original message:
I wouldn't recommend the use of audacity.  It is a pain as far as I can
tell.  Use GoldWave.  

Katherine Moss



  

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Re: BBC Podcastes

[David Bailes]

Hi Ketan,

In the list of 6 options which includes itunes, google reader, etc, the last 
item is RSS feed. To copy the feed address to the clipboard, either select copy 
shortcut from the context menu of the RSS feed link, or alternatively open the 
link, and then copy the address in the address bar.

David.


original message:
Hi,

I want to subscribe to BBC podcasts but I am using the Golden Ear nd I am not 
able to subscribe as I am unable to find URL.  It gives option of Itunes, 
google reader, yahoo, Etc.  What should I do?
Ketan Kothari



  

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Re: Burning a CD in Windows Media Player 11

[David Bailes]

Hi,

there's a jaws guide to wmp 11, and most of it is equally applicable to window 
eyes:

http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Windows-Media-Player-11-Guide.html

the revlevant sections are probably: introduction, main window, player taskbar, 
and burn page,

David.

original message:
Ok.  Probably the stupid question of the day or perhaps the week.

In WMP10, the CD option was on the files menu.  I just upgraded to WMP11 
and was going to burn a couple of files into an audio CD but now cannot 
find the burn option.
Where is it?  I do have the Classic Menues enabled if that makes a 
difference and I am running xp Home and Window-Eyes 7.01.



  

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