Re: Blind Computer Users Plextalk Pocket ptp1 version 3.0firmwarenowavailable.

2009-10-09 Thread G-Dog
You keep drinking that kool aid man!

It's your money!  Or, is it?

What a goof!

- Original Message - 
From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:07 AM
Subject: RE: Blind Computer Users Plextalk Pocket ptp1 version 
3.0firmwarenowavailable.


The xtreme has been on the market much longer.

And I heard some recordings made by the xtreme.  They're probably even worse
than that of the olympus.



-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tim Grady
Sent: 08 October 2009 10:33 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Blind Computer Users Plextalk Pocket ptp1 version 3.0
firmwarenowavailable.

Why do you say that about unprotected wma support?  The Stream has had that
for quite some time.
On Oct 8, 2009, at 12:13 PM, André van Deventer wrote:

 I realise that some folks may think that some of are perhaps hyping
 this device a bit too much, but  I must say I am impressed by the
 frequency of update to the firmware of the pocket.  And I believe
 these are really meaningful changes especially the WMA support.
 Plextor definitely seems to have gotten it right on this one.

 Andre



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 On Behalf Of G-Dog
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 Subject: Fw: Blind Computer Users Plextalk Pocket ptp1 version 3.0
 firmwarenow available.

 FYIG-Dog!
 plextalk pocket firmware.
 Release note
 7 October, 2009
 PLEXTALK Pocket PTP1 version 3 Released.
 Read more texts and books with fast navigation.
 PLEXTALK Pocket PTP1 Firmware Upgrade: Version 3 Shinano Kenshi Co.,
 Ltd.
 and Plextor are pleased to announce the release of PLEXTALK Pocket
 PTP1 new
 firmware, Version 3.
 Version 3 has added more format support: Microsoft Word .doc and WMA
 (Windows Media Audio)*.
 * Pocket PTP1 supports only unprotected WMA at present.
 The playable content/formats on PLEXTALK Pocket PTP1 Version 3 are:
 Daisy 2.02, ANSI/NISO Z39.86/DAISY 3.0, NLS, Bookshare, RFBD TXT,
 HTML, DOC
 MP3, WAV, AMR-MB+, DAISY ADPCM2, OGG, WMA unprotected Version 3 has
 more
 simplified operation and is more intuitive such as:
 Faster key response,
 Option to suppress a key sound after pressing, Announce file/folder
 name as
 audio track/album name Automatic bookmark numbering More features
 have been
 added on Version 3 for your easy navigation, recording sound quality
 and
 others.
 7 languages are available currently with Version 3 and other language
 versions will be released accordingly.
 For more details, please see the release note.
 [Pocket PTP1] Firmware Upgrade: Version 3.00 New Contents Support
 Microsoft
 Word .doc file support: To read a Microsoft Word .doc file on SD
 card or USB
 flash memory by the TTS engine. Pocket PTP1 categorizes MS Word .doc
 in
 'text'.
 WMA (Window Media Audio) support: To play back unprotected WMA
 format audio
 files on SD card or USB flash memory.
 Bookshare book playback improvement: To announce the title name of a
 Bookshare book.
 To navigate a Bookshare book by page properly.
 More Simplified and Intuitive Operations All key responses have been
 improved. A key confirmation sound or a voice prompt comes up more
 quickly
 after pressing a key (fast forward, rewind, level navigation, direct
 title/content jump, menu selection, etc.).
 New option to eliminate the sounds made after key press. On 'Select
 the Key
 Press Confirmation Sound' of 'System Settings' on the Menu, you can
 choose
 those sound 'On' or 'Off'
 Announce an album/track name of audio content. On 'Reading audio
 file name'
 of 'Playback
 Settings' of the Menu, you can choose the announcing options of
 either 'Read
 Album/Track Name' or 'Read Album/Track Number'. Pocket PTP1
 announces a
 folder name where the audio content is stored as the album name, and
 a file
 name without the file extension as the track name of the audio
 content.
 Automatic bookmark numbering. If you do not want to determine the
 number of
 a bookmark you are going to set, just press the Bookmark Key twice
 then
 press the Enter Key, so Pocket PTP1 will automatically give the
 smallest
 bookmark number you were not using. If you press the '0' Key and the
 Enter
 Key after you press the Bookmark Key twice, Pocket PTP1 will also
 give you
 the smallest number automatically.
 Changed the title/folder/category announcements. When you select a
 title
 after pressing the Title Key, Pocket PTP1 makes simple announcements
 than
 the previous versions.
 And when you want to select a folder by pressing the 'Up' Key
 following the
 Title Key, Pocket PTP1 announces the folder name.
 Play text files more naturally when going to the next line.
 Changed the order of the items in 'System Settings' of the Menu.
 'Initialize
 all settings to default' has been moved to the last item.
 More

Fw: Blind Computer Users Plextalk Pocket ptp1 version 3.0 firmware now available.

2009-10-08 Thread G-Dog
FYIG-Dog!
plextalk pocket firmware.
Release note
7 October, 2009
PLEXTALK Pocket PTP1 version 3 Released.
Read more texts and books with fast navigation.
PLEXTALK Pocket PTP1 Firmware Upgrade: Version 3
Shinano Kenshi Co., Ltd. and Plextor are pleased to announce the release of 
PLEXTALK
Pocket PTP1 new firmware, Version 3.
Version 3 has added more format support: Microsoft Word .doc and WMA 
(Windows Media
Audio)*.
* Pocket PTP1 supports only unprotected WMA at present.
The playable content/formats on PLEXTALK Pocket PTP1 Version 3 are:
Daisy 2.02, ANSI/NISO Z39.86/DAISY 3.0, NLS, Bookshare, RFBD
TXT, HTML, DOC
MP3, WAV, AMR-MB+, DAISY ADPCM2, OGG, WMA unprotected
Version 3 has more simplified operation and is more intuitive such as:
Faster key response,
Option to suppress a key sound after pressing,
Announce file/folder name as audio track/album name
Automatic bookmark numbering
More features have been added on Version 3 for your easy navigation, 
recording sound
quality and others.
7 languages are available currently with Version 3 and other language 
versions will
be released accordingly.
For more details, please see the release note.
[Pocket PTP1] Firmware Upgrade: Version 3.00
New Contents Support
Microsoft Word .doc file support: To read a Microsoft Word .doc file on SD 
card or
USB flash memory by the TTS engine. Pocket PTP1 categorizes MS Word .doc in 
'text'.
WMA (Window Media Audio) support: To play back unprotected WMA format audio 
files
on SD card or USB flash memory.
Bookshare book playback improvement: To announce the title name of a 
Bookshare book.
To navigate a Bookshare book by page properly.
More Simplified and Intuitive Operations
All key responses have been improved. A key confirmation sound or a voice 
prompt
comes up more quickly after pressing a key (fast forward, rewind, level 
navigation,
direct title/content jump, menu selection, etc.).
New option to eliminate the sounds made after key press. On 'Select the Key 
Press
Confirmation Sound' of 'System Settings' on the Menu, you can choose those 
sound
'On' or 'Off'
Announce an album/track name of audio content. On 'Reading audio file name' 
of 'Playback
Settings' of the Menu, you can choose the announcing options of either 'Read 
Album/Track
Name' or 'Read Album/Track Number'. Pocket PTP1 announces a folder name 
where the
audio content is stored as the album name, and a file name without the file 
extension
as the track name of the audio content.
Automatic bookmark numbering. If you do not want to determine the number of 
a bookmark
you are going to set, just press the Bookmark Key twice then press the Enter 
Key,
so Pocket PTP1 will automatically give the smallest bookmark number you were 
not
using. If you press the '0' Key and the Enter Key after you press the 
Bookmark Key
twice, Pocket PTP1 will also give you the smallest number automatically.
Changed the title/folder/category announcements. When you select a title 
after pressing
the Title Key, Pocket PTP1 makes simple announcements than the previous 
versions.
And when you want to select a folder by pressing the 'Up' Key following the 
Title
Key, Pocket PTP1 announces the folder name.
Play text files more naturally when going to the next line.
Changed the order of the items in 'System Settings' of the Menu. 'Initialize 
all
settings to default' has been moved to the last item.
More Powerful Navigation
Added two navigation levels for text playback; 'line' and 'screen'. 1) Forty 
words
or 2) less than forty words before a carriage return have been defined as a 
'line'.
Forty lines has been defined as a 'screen'.
Now you can navigate a text file by screen, paragraph, line, sentence, word 
or character.,
and a DAISY title by heading (level 1 to 6), group, page, phrase, screen, 
paragraph,
line, sentence, word or character if such items are defined on the DAISY 
title.
Added a DAISY-like level navigation feature for html files by recognizing H1 
through
H6 heading levels.
Recording and Playing Feature Enhancement
Improved the recording sound quality by MP3 for DAISY recording and voice 
memo.
Added MP3 high-quality modes on 'Back-up' of music CD. After pressing the 
'9' Key
to back up a music CD on a CD drive connected to Pocket PTP1, you can select 
'MP3
256kbps high-quality' or 'MP3 128kbps high-quality' in addition to the 
previous modes,
'MP3 256kbps', 'MP3 128kbps' and 'PCM'. When you select either of the two 
modes,
you can back up better sound quality music titles into a SD card. Please 
note that
those modes need 20% to 90% more time to back up the music than the previous 
MP3
modes.
Enhanced the compatibility with variety of MP3 formats.
To announce decryption key information on the Menu. After you install a key 
to decrypt
a PDTB title (for example, books from NLS or RFBD), you can check whether 
the key
has been installed properly by hearing this announcement. The announcement 
is heard
on 'System Properties' of 'System Settings' on the Menu.
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Re: Digital recorders again.

2009-10-07 Thread G-Dog
Agreed!

accessability is a very important factor but it doesn't equate to 
performance.
I use the olympus DS-71 which does an excellent job for both mike and line 
in recordings.
Yes, you can monitor through headphones.
I also like the fact that it uses AAA batteries that makes it easy to swap 
them out if needed.

I hear the Edital R9 is also a nifty unit

G-Doggy-dog!
- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again.


That statement should probably be qualified: It may well be the most
excellent recording device in its class on the market, I couldn't say
but have no reason to believe otherwise, but there are better recording
devices on the market. Sweeping statements are dangerous.

Bruce


On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:56:11 -0500, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net
said:
 I totally agree with you Dean, the plextalk pocket is the most exclent
 recording device on the market these days.

 - Original Message - 
 From: dean martineau dea...@earthlink.net
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:36 PM
 Subject: RE: Digital recorders again.


 What I know is that the PlexTalk Pocket is totally accessible, nicely
 packaged, has both manual and automatic level control, and does a very
 nice
 job of recording from the line injack.  I doubt any other digital
 recorder
 provides as much feedback, as this one is made for the blind.  Of course,
 it
 may (or may not, I don't know) cost more than others of similar quality,
 but
 there's no guesswork involved.  It's nice to be able to monitor through
 the
 speaker when making a line-in recording.

 Dean


 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Tim Crawford
 Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:27 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Digital recorders again.

 Hi all,

 Just wondering, which one of the flash memory based recorders recently
 discussed here, would be most suitable for making high quality recordings
 from an external source via line-in?  e.g. a satellite receiver.

 I don't intend recording via microphone, so that particular aspect of
 performance is of limited interest.

 Any views much appreciated.

 Cheers,

 Tim.
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Re: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71

2009-10-07 Thread G-Dog
Yeh!
And I would take a recommendation on my next purchase on a guess!

BTW:  I had a PTP and gae it back due to it's crappy firmware and terrible 
navigational structure.

Brand loyalty is one thing, and making irronious reccomendations is another.



- Original Message - 
From: Tim Noonan t...@timnoonan.com.au
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 5:35 PM
Subject: RE: Digital recorders again - Plextalk Pocket and Olympus DS-71


I would guess, in the  absence of no hard comparative data, that the audio
recording quality of the Pocket is quite a bit better than is the Olympus
DS-71, which I do have.

I find the Olympus, across a range of external mics does have a degree of
background hiss (preamp noise or circuit noise). This is the case when set
to wave recording and manual mic input levels.

Also, The Olympus doesn't actually have a line in, only a mic in port, so I
am curious about line in recording quality, and whether you are using an
attenuation cable to reduce the line in signal to mic levels?

That all said, I absolutely love my Olympus DS-71 in so many ways, and for
so many reasons: its  extraordinarily flexible and effective voice recording
capabilities, battery life and replaceable batteries, and especially its
super compact size makes it a take everywhere audio device.

Speaker monitoring of line in recordings, and audible recording level
feedback are features unique to the Plextalk recorders.

Regards
Tim

-Original Message-t
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of G-Dog
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:20 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again.

Agreed!

accessability is a very important factor but it doesn't equate to
performance.
I use the olympus DS-71 which does an excellent job for both mike and line
in recordings.
Yes, you can monitor through headphones.
I also like the fact that it uses AAA batteries that makes it easy to swap
them out if needed.

I hear the Edital R9 is also a nifty unit

G-Doggy-dog!
- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Toews br...@ogts.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again.


That statement should probably be qualified: It may well be the most
excellent recording device in its class on the market, I couldn't say
but have no reason to believe otherwise, but there are better recording
devices on the market. Sweeping statements are dangerous.

Bruce


On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:56:11 -0500, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net
said:
 I totally agree with you Dean, the plextalk pocket is the most exclent
 recording device on the market these days.

 - Original Message - 
 From: dean martineau dea...@earthlink.net
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:36 PM
 Subject: RE: Digital recorders again.


 What I know is that the PlexTalk Pocket is totally accessible, nicely
 packaged, has both manual and automatic level control, and does a very
 nice
 job of recording from the line injack.  I doubt any other digital
 recorder
 provides as much feedback, as this one is made for the blind.  Of course,
 it
 may (or may not, I don't know) cost more than others of similar quality,
 but
 there's no guesswork involved.  It's nice to be able to monitor through
 the
 speaker when making a line-in recording.

 Dean


 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Tim Crawford
 Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:27 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Digital recorders again.

 Hi all,

 Just wondering, which one of the flash memory based recorders recently
 discussed here, would be most suitable for making high quality recordings
 from an external source via line-in?  e.g. a satellite receiver.

 I don't intend recording via microphone, so that particular aspect of
 performance is of limited interest.

 Any views much appreciated.

 Cheers,

 Tim.
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Re: Voices for Rock Box

2009-09-26 Thread G-Dog
Sorry I don't understand your question but I can tell you that rockbox does 
not support the ZenStone.

- Original Message - 
From: Kenbu ke...@rogers.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: Voices for Rock Box


I hope you're helped re your rock box;  I need help with my Zenstone 2 gig
with speaker, mp 3 player;  A while ago someone mentioned a little voice
file that will enable one to be prompted, via voice, of corse, so that I can
hear each folder and perhaps even the songs within each folder which will
save time fooling around with eacch folder/muusic piece, Etc., Any help will
be welcomed indeed!  Ken B
- Original Message - 
From: Roger Stewart paga...@wi.rr.com
To: P C Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 6:53 PM
Subject: Voices for Rock Box


 Can someone please tell me how to get the voice files for Rock Box and
 make it talk?  With some sighted help I was able to get the right
 version of Rock Box for my Archos Jukebox but when I tried to find the
 English voice files on their site they don't seem to be there--at least
 they're not where the links point you.  Hope someone can help.

 B B

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Re: audible.com

2009-09-14 Thread G-Dog
Hi,

Yes the book is available from Audible.com

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To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:19 AM
Subject: audible.com


I was a member of audible.com and am thinking about joining again.  I am 
looking for angels and deamonds but I want the unabridged version.  I can't 
seem to get to the place where you can search to see if the book exists 
without joining.  Is there anyone who is a member of audible that could 
check or is there another place to look for audible books?
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Re: audible.com

2009-09-14 Thread G-Dog
AUDIOBOOK

Angels and Demons 

UNABRIDGED

By 
Dan Brown

Narrated by 
Richard Poe

Rating: 
Average Customer Rating: for Angels and Demons (Unabridged):4.2 
4.2 (3024 Ratings) 

Length: 18 hrs and 15 min

Release Date: 04-14-04

Learn how to get this for

$7.49
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Subject: audible.com


unabridged version?
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Fw: Laptop sound card

2009-09-08 Thread G-Dog
Hi,

I know this has been discussed many times on this list but I want to rehash
the subject
Now my travel companion is a Dell XPS-1210 Laptop
It's almost three years old but is still doing the job an considering what I
paid for it I'm not ready to give it up just yet!

This little puppy has a couple of problems that I wish to remedy in one fell
swoop!
1): the Sigmatell audio driver such the big one.  jfw has that old crackle
that used to be a problem with the old sound blaster live cards and jfw.
2): the XPS-1210 only has an express card slot which rules out the Echo
Indigo card solution.

So, I want to find an express card that will not only improve audio for
external speakers and headphones, but for the internal speakers as well.
I have researched the creative labs x5 express but have read that it won't
run the internal laptop speakers.  I have also read that it is very loose
and can easily disconnect from the express slot.

Advice it very apprecieated...Kg





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Re: High quality soundcard with accessible configuration software.

2009-09-07 Thread G-Dog
Very intetesting looking unit!

Let us know how she stackds up re accessability!
- Original Message - 
From: Robert Logue bobca...@telusplanet.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: High quality soundcard with accessible configuration software.


I just found another audio interface that may be what some of us are looking
for.  It is the Cakewalk V-Studio 100.

The description sounds a lot like the Edirol FA-66 but with inputs and
outputs plus hardware mixer with motorised faders and daw controls on the
top.  It even has some built in hardware effects and can be used stand alone
or with your computer.


You can read a nice review at:
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/08/20/cakewalk-v-studio-100-hands-on-mixer-interface-control-surface-macpc/

I ope to get my hands on one soon to see if it is blind friendly.

Bob


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Re: Latest DeltaPanel Software problems.

2009-08-30 Thread G-Dog
Yes Jim most people have long since updated to service pack III!


- Original Message - 
From: Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@rogers.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Latest DeltaPanel Software problems.


Peter:

I have not heard any feadback from anyone else concerning this matter.
Using JFW, I did, however, managed to access most of the functions via the
JAWS/Mouse cursor. Rather important since I am running a Delta 66 along with
a Delta 1010.

Cheers.

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: Latest DeltaPanel Software problems.


 Hi,
 Have you been able to verify this?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@rogers.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Latest DeltaPanel Software problems.


 : Hi all Delta soundcard users:
 :
 : Another problem that you may have is that, if you install ServicePack
 3for
 : XP, it will not allow you to install an earlier version of the
 DeltaPanel
 : software than the latest one.  Can anyone else varify whether this is or
 is
 : not the case?  It certainly is on my box.
 :
 : Thanks all over the place gang.
 :
 :
 :
 : - Original Message - 
 : From: Ray rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com
 : To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 : Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 8:36 AM
 : Subject: Re: Latest DeltaPanel Software problems.
 :
 :
 :  Jim and others, this news is depressing and doesn't surprise me;  it
 was
 :  only
 :  a matter of time before M-Audio got around to crappifying the
 interface
 :  for
 :  the Delta series.  I have an M-Audio Solo USB Soundcard and I can see
 how
 :  accessability will have been truly screwed up for us as this interface
 is
 :  next
 :  to useless for screen reader users.  Looks very pretty oh yes!
 : 
 :  I've yet to see the rest of this thread but you do wonder if these
 :  companies
 :  couldn't make the software available to a third party to create an
 :  accessible
 :  version which the aesthetically conscious could avoid using.  We have
 no
 :  choice but to be locked  out of the interface.  Shall carry on reading
 :  this
 :  thread as maybe someone's come up with alternative soundcards with
 :  accessible
 :  interfaces.
 : 
 :  Ray
 : 
 :  Jim NOseworthy wrote:
 :  Judy:
 : 
 :  You can download the drivers from my server at:
 :  ftp.compuconference.com/Delta_Panel_V32_5.10.00.5065.exe
 : 
 :  Hope this helps.
 : 
 : 
 : 
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: Judy W ju...@austin.rr.com
 :  To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 :  Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:12 PM
 :  Subject: RE: Latest DeltaPanel Software problems.
 : 
 : 
 : 
 :  Can someone tell me where to get the older drivers?
 : 
 :  Judy
 : 
 : 
 :  -Original Message-
 :  From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 :  [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 :  On Behalf Of Jim NOseworthy
 :  Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:09 AM
 :  To: PC Audio Discussion List
 :  Subject: Latest DeltaPanel Software problems.
 : 
 :  Yo Folks:
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 :  For those who are using the DeltaPanel software: do not install the
 :  latest
 :  version of that software.  It is totally inaccessible thus rendering
 your
 :  ability to configure your soundcard as non-existent.
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