Re: Easy CD-DA Extractor
Dana, Just by the by, I also have this application, but have never become even as proficient with it as you seem to have. Even the basic stuff about the interface-- excluding the menus, which operate and read fine) have frustrated me beyond my ability to tolerate. I can tab and/or control tab around, arrow up and down, and can never actually discern how to cycle around the several functions and encounter the same options within their tabs, and some things while I'm moving around like this don't speak at all, in certain areas. This is true in the newest version, just as it was before. Something is badly amiss about the coding compared to more screen reader accessible programs. I never heard about this script file, if that's what you're referring to. Even after my inquiries and complaints about some of these issues, Jukka did not tell me about it. Even though I said I was a fan of Esa-Pekka Solonen, music director of the L.A. Philharmonic. No sweet-talking that Jukka, I tell ya. Anyway, please tell me about this script file, where to get it, and how to install it. If it's useful, that is. Also, may I suggest that at least for a few of the program's functions, when you feel blocked from them by tedious problems with navigation and such (not including your rip tracks issue, I'm afraid), do try putting up the context menu, you know, that key to the left of the right control key, and seeing if what you need is one of its options. That's helped me at time. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Dana S. Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC-Audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 1:07 PM Subject: Easy CD-DA Extractor I just installed version 10.0.2. I still can't get JAWS to track the PC cursor when arrowing up and down the list of tracks in the ripper, even when I re-install the ezcddax.JCF that was made available back in August, shortly after the release of Easy CD-DA 10b. Has anyone ever gotten this configuration file to do what it is supposed to? For my purposes, though, I still find it easiest just to use version 9.1.3. still, one day, I'm probably going to need some feature introduced in a later version, and I'd hate not to have this problem resolved by then. Blessed Be, Dana D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 9/22/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 9/22/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Desktop Player
Andrea, Here you go. From the Audible site. In my experience, most of these commands work fine, though a couple of them I've never tried. Bookmarks, particularly. And I'm not sure you really need to press Control M in order to return to Audible Manager after pressing Control E to close Desktop Player. So experiment with it. Hope this helps, Daniel Audible Desktop Player - Enabled for Accessibility To listen to your Audible programs on your desktop, Audible provides its own Desktop player that can be used as an alternative to Windows Media Player (default install) or Realplayer. Our player has been optimized for Accessibility and use by the blind. It offers an easy to use interface with accelerator keys and audible prompts for rewinding and fast forward functions. To switch to the Audible Desktop Player you must install the software from the Internet. go to the Tools menu ( Alt+T ) Select Desktop Player ( type the D key ) Select Audible Desktop Player ( type the D key ) Select OK by hitting the Enter key. This will download the necessary components and will prompt you to close Audible Manager and will then automatically restart AudibleManager. At this point, when you play a title, Audible Desktop Player will be your default player for Audible content only. Below is a list of the available Hot Keys used by the Audible Desktop Player. Play Shift + P Pause / Stop (remembers playback position) Ctrl + P Resume PlaybackCtrl + P Fast Forward Ctrl + F Rewind Ctrl + R Go to Next SectionCtrl + Shift + F Go to Previous Section Ctrl + Shift + R Audible content is often broken into sections that allow easier navigation within an audio title. A section can be a chapter, an article or story (such as each article in the NewYork Times is a section - so articles can be skipped if desired). Sections may also be the length of a standard Audio tape or CD which is the general source of most AudioBooks that Audible produces. Increase Sound Volume Ctrl + U Decrease Sound Volume Ctrl + D Bookmark Ctrl + B Go to BookmarkCtrl + G Once you have set a bookmark (Ctrl + B) and brought up the bookmark list by typing (Ctrl + G), you then use the up an down arrow keys to select the bookmark you wish and then follow with the Enter key to begin playback from that point. Close Audible Desktop Player Ctrl + E Return to AudibleManager Ctrl + M The Audible Desktop Player will continue to play while you work on other applications even if you close Audible Manager ( Note: Closing Audible Manager only moves the application to the System Tray ). To bring the Desktop player to the foreground, simply type Alt+Tab keys to bring up the running application list . Then Tab until you get the the Desktop Player. - Original Message - From: Andrea Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 2:55 AM Subject: Desktop Player Could someone let me have a list of the keys for this Audible player please. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.9/62 - Release Date: 8/2/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.9/62 - Release Date: 8/2/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ACCESSIBLE MP3 PLAYERS
Hi, The only .mp3 player I use is the very rudimentary and small capacity MuVo from Creative Labs,which I got as part of a subscription package from audible.com, an online digital audio book vendor. This isn't likely to suit your needs, if only because its flash memory capacity is only 128 Mb. But as far as audio quality goes, this isn't something like home stereo equipment, where products can differ vastly in their ability to produce good sound. From my experience, as well as from every consumer article I've read in various places, including the New York times tech news section, the circuitry of these devices is pretty uniform in design and manufacturing quality, and thus essentially transparent. What will matter most to your ears will be how the compressed file is encoded and then, assuming that as a constant in terms of source quality, the most important link in this short chain will be the acoustic properties of whatever headphones you choose to use with the device, including their sensitivity rating. Which matters here because the higher the sensitivity rating, the less battery power and the less amplifier power will be required to drive them to acceptable volume levels, increasing battery life and reducing distortion from having to turn the little amp up too high. All that said, ordinary ear buds like those offered by Sony and other companies will probably suffice quite well if you're mostly playing popular music to exercise by or something like that. If your mobile listening tastes run to more sonically complex music with a broader dynamic range, as in classical music, then better headphones would make an appreciable and audible difference. Hope this helps. From: André van Deventer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 11:59 AM Subject: ACCESSIBLE MP3 PLAYERS Hi all I realise this question has been asked many times before, but I need some current info. I am looking for an accessible MP3 player with good sound quality. It must also have a reasonably large storage capacity. I realise that with todays menu-driven units nothing is completely accessible, but what is the best options regarding MP3 players that are presently available on the market? Also - and this is just out of curiosity - do all these small MP3 players have the same sound quality? Regards Andre ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 7/28/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 7/28/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: didgital recorders?
I came in a little late, here. What I'd like to know is, are there any current models of digital recorders that blind users find most accessible? I assume we're talking pocket size devices that a person could use for note taking, or a journalist use for doing interviews, yes? thanks. - Original Message - From: Steve Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 5:49 PM Subject: Re: didgital recorders? well I have a Panasonic and I have had it for about two years so I am sure there new ones out now. I like it because it beeps to indicate that you have completed a function. This one has two folders. The Olympus one at Costco had six folders and that is too many. A blind person would never know which folder is which. But two is fine. You will have to get a sighted person to go over it with you and make some notes as to what the functions are and you will have to practice with it but you will find it neat to make little notes. Much better than a cassette recorder. It has a clock and you can just ignore that part. Good luck finding one. web site www.rellek.com/stevegomes phone 720-747-4990 - Original Message - From: Cheryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 5:52 PM Subject: didgital recorders? hi everyone. I've posted this to more than one list, so sorry if people see this twice. Anyway, I was thinking of getting a didgital recorder, and was wondering which one is most accessible for a totally blind person? thanks for any help. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 7/25/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 7/25/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: didgital recorders?
I thought people were just talking about digital versions of hand-held mini-cassette devices a lot of blind people use for recording notes and phone numbers for themselves. Not entertainment players. But I remember learning that some of the .mp3 players incorporate a recording function, whether for just note taking or more serious use, I forget, one of which is a model of Creative Labs called Nomad or something. A visit to their site will reveal it. But I'm pretty sure that one has an LCD screen and isn't too blind friendly. oething.ntertinmto be called exeecutive execuitive - Original Message - From: Randy Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: RE: didgital recorders? And just to complicate the discussion a little bit, are there machines that both play and record? My sense is some of these devices play mp3s while others record. Are there accessible devices out that do both? Thanks for the feedback. Randy Black -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:23 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: didgital recorders? I came in a little late, here. What I'd like to know is, are there any current models of digital recorders that blind users find most accessible? I assume we're talking pocket size devices that a person could use for note taking, or a journalist use for doing interviews, yes? thanks. - Original Message - From: Steve Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 5:49 PM Subject: Re: didgital recorders? well I have a Panasonic and I have had it for about two years so I am sure there new ones out now. I like it because it beeps to indicate that you have completed a function. This one has two folders. The Olympus one at Costco had six folders and that is too many. A blind person would never know which folder is which. But two is fine. You will have to get a sighted person to go over it with you and make some notes as to what the functions are and you will have to practice with it but you will find it neat to make little notes. Much better than a cassette recorder. It has a clock and you can just ignore that part. Good luck finding one. web site www.rellek.com/stevegomes phone 720-747-4990 - Original Message - From: Cheryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 5:52 PM Subject: didgital recorders? hi everyone. I've posted this to more than one list, so sorry if people see this twice. Anyway, I was thinking of getting a didgital recorder, and was wondering which one is most accessible for a totally blind person? thanks for any help. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 7/25/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 7/25/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.6/59 - Release Date: 7/27/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.6/59 - Release Date: 7/27/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Easy Cd/DA Extractor blues
I have purchased the newly released version of Easy CD/DA Extractor, Version 8.2.1, and I'm having severe accessibility problems trying to use it with Jaws 6.0. Does anyone on this list use this version of this program with Jaws, successfully? If so, can you direct me to whatever scripts and/or special Jaws/keyboard instructions you may know of? For me, many interface elements don't speak in Jaws or allow keyboard navigation, to the point where the program isn't usable for me. So if anyone has mastered itk, please share the secrets of your success. I do have access to other programs if necessary, such as the freeware CDex for ripping and Nero Ultra 6 for burning, although I wouldn't call this Nero module Jaws heaven, either, exactly. So all I'm asking about is how to master Easy Cd/DA Extractor, if anyone can help. Not seeking alternative program recommendations. Thanks very much. xtractr,yourhatebver -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.4/57 - Release Date: 7/22/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy Cd/DA Extractor blues
Well, if I'd read anything in the descriptions of these two recent Jaws updates to make me imagine that Jaws would work any differently with any software I was concerned about, including this program, I might install the update. But nothing in Freedom Scientifics' list of bug fixes and new features suggests this at all, or even sounds as if I'd benefit any other way from it, either. Which is why I haven't bothered with the updates. That's all. If the Freedom Scientific site claimed that these updates would make Jaws handle some programs any better than Version 6.0 does, I'd be interested, for sure. But the news didn't say anything like that, so far as I can recall. Anyway, I might still do the upgrade out of curiosity, and if all of a sudden this program becomes Jaws-friendly, I'll mention it. But this is the kind of thing where it's the program interface that's not coded well for Jaws, because the developer doesn't know about that stuff. The kind of problem someone would write Jaws scripts for, if the program were more popular with Jaws users. Thanks for responding. Now, does anyone have any personal experience with Easy CD/DA Extractor? happen - Original Message - From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 4:27 AM Subject: Re: Easy Cd/DA Extractor blues HI, Why not upgrade Jaws to version 6.20? It's free. I don't know, if that will fix anything for you, but it's probably worth a try. Best regards Brian ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 7/25/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 7/25/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Don't understand answers to my Easy CDDA Extractor questions
Hi again Chris, Once more, I'd like to explain that my questions do not pertain to CDex or to the perfectly legitimate principles you describe adhering to for setting rip parameters. I'm dealing with an interface that does not even present any of these variables, such as numerical bit rates. Have you ever seen Easy Cd/DA Extractor? The terms used and the settings offered on the rip settings tab aren't in terms of numerical bit rate or any of the other familiar things you mention here. I understand what you're talking about. Totally I do. But if you would see this program, you'd see that I'd have to be more clever than I am to figure out how to associate these terms you're discussing with the offerings on that settings menu. I'm rephrasing my earlier response to you because the last thing I'd like is for you to feel I was disrespecting your kind offer of advice. Again, I tried to explain my questions as clearly as possible, and I'm truly sorry if I some missed you. thanks again for the offer of advice about your preferred CD ripping settings. But I went through all this with Kevin when I was learning CDex. It's just that I made the gesture of buying Easy CD/DA Extractor because it's a combination program and I thought that it would be more accessible to Jaws for me, which it isn't, and thought also that I'd get over its odd settings and lack of accurate explanation. At this point, it seems I've misspent my money. I still hope that Kevin might read my questions that began this thread and maybe have something helpful to say. But he hasn't responded yet, so I still have hope. Yo Kevin! Kevin! You there? Thanks again, Daniel - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 5:03 PM Subject: Re: Don't understand answers to my Easy CDDA Extractor questions Hi Dan I'm not sure if I can answer all your questions in one go, but when i use CDEX I usually use Average bitrate encoding. I usually rip all my cds at 44.1 KHZ 16 bit, at 192kbps, stereo. Now this isn't a hard and fast rule. You can get a pretty good rip from a CD without having to know all this complicated stuff, the same way you can tell time without having to know how the watch was made to tell the time. In other words what I did was I watched how other people rip their cds and figured out that the best way to go about it is to find a sound that *you* like and stick with that. You do definitely want to rip at 44.1 KHZ 16 bit stereo for most music. You can probably get away with a lower bitrate like 64k mono if you're ripping an audio book that contains very little music and a lot of speech, but generally people rip their cds at an average bitrate of anywhere between 128k, to 320k, but 320 k is more rare because the higher the bitrate, the larger the file. It's all in what you prefer. In the early days of all this stuff, some players would choke on files that were encoded using variable bitrates, but now they seem to handle those files fine. I just try to make sure that my files are compadible with all the players I use. So really, if you ripped your favorite Stones or Jimmy Hendrix CD at 192k stereo, you'll get a beautiful sounding rip. I know that doesn't directly answer all your questions, but like I said when it comes to this stuff, you have to experiment a bit and find a sound that you like. It's a subjective thing. At 10:20 AM 7/15/2005, you wrote: This post is directed especially to Kevin, Clifford and Bruce, whose earlier explanations about CD ripping and burning programs I've found very clear and helpful. I submitted these questions to the developer of Easy CDDA Extractor only after reading carefully through the program's documentation, which, though clearly written as far as it goes, didn't discuss or even mention any of the details about bit rate and encoding method about which I'd learned so much when I was learning how to set CDex up with Kevin's help. this is not related to my inability to locate and identify various controls, and even some options lists, in the program due to Jaws not seeing many elements of the interface. In this case, at least so far as I'm aware, I am able to find and make adjustments to all of these groups of settings. The problem is, as you'll see, that I don't know what they are, for the most part, and my previous CDex experience doesn't seem to apply, and the developer's responses to my questions have left me more at sea than I was before I asked them. I'll paste in each of my questions and his answers, then type my comment explaining what it is I don't understand about his answer. Please bear in mind that I asked these questions as responsibly as I could, using all the knowledge I'd gotten from going through the CDex mini-course with Kevin. My suspicion here is that he has left a lot unsaid, and isn't aware of that. As I said, he gives no background in
Re: Easy CD/DA Extractor accessibility
I'm using 6.0. Sorry, thought I'd mentioned that. Under XP Home with SP2. - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 12:46 PM Subject: Re: Easy CD/DA Extractor accessibility Which version of JAWS do you use, Daniel, I honetsly can't remember. Running the latest version of JFW, I have personally not come across these accessibility issues ... which isn't to say they don't exist. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Yardbird wrote: Just recently, I purchased the newest version of this program when I saw its release announced on another list. The reason I went for it was because I'd downloaded and tried out the previous version, just weeks earlier, and found its controls, settings and menus almost entirely accessible to my Jaws 6.0 under XP Home, with few exceptions. Maybe, now that I think of it, I just wwasn't aware of some features that Jaws didn't speak, but managed to use its basic functions anyway, without knowing I could actually tweak important settings. But now that I've installed the new version, which I'd hoped would be at least as smooth-functioning with Jaws as its predecessor, I'm disappointed. Although the menus are still as accessible as before, the tabs and settings in the modules for burning, ripping and, I suppose, file conversion (though I didn't explore that function) are full of gaps and things that Jaws can't pick up just moving about with the Tab key and arrow keys, as before. Some items can be tricked into speaking, if you know they're there in the first place, by using the Say Line command, but others just are invisible or completely impossible to make sense of. I hear blank where I'm sure there's a setting or control, true as an alternative to check about something, I have no idea what, and the browser views and list views involved in finding files and listing them to burn, for instance, are not possible for me to figure out. I just wind up tabbing around and around. Once, I managed to create a CD from files on my hard drive, but I was so confused that I don't remember how I managed it. Has anyone else had trouble with this new version? I've contacted the developer, who wrote back to me very quickly, though he seemed surprised and a little taken aback at my inquiry, and at first just asked if there were some Jaws patches that could be used, or something like that. I explained that when possible, a program interface was coded in a way that let Jaws identify its features, and when that failed, there were volunteer script writers. But that this was an informal arrangement, so that you can't just order something to compensate for a poorly labeled interface. I offered to help find him resources and links for learning more about coding or whatever you call it to interface with Jaws, but he hasn't written back again, yet. I'm hoping to maintain a respectful relationship, because I'd like to support his work, and the program seems nicely designed, very clean, from what I experienced with the earlier version. Anyone else have experience with this new version of the program? I got the impressing that it's popular with screen reader people, so I wonder if others are having less trouble with this than I am, or know how to improve the situation. Thanks. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy CD/DA Extractor accessibility
yes. As I said, the just-released version. That's what it's designated. - Original Message - From: hank [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 1:30 PM Subject: Re: Easy CD/DA Extractor accessibility you running version 8.1.2? - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC-Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 12:12 PM Subject: Easy CD/DA Extractor accessibility Just recently, I purchased the newest version of this program when I saw its release announced on another list. The reason I went for it was because I'd downloaded and tried out the previous version, just weeks earlier, and found its controls, settings and menus almost entirely accessible to my Jaws 6.0 under XP Home, with few exceptions. Maybe, now that I think of it, I just wwasn't aware of some features that Jaws didn't speak, but managed to use its basic functions anyway, without knowing I could actually tweak important settings. But now that I've installed the new version, which I'd hoped would be at least as smooth-functioning with Jaws as its predecessor, I'm disappointed. Although the menus are still as accessible as before, the tabs and settings in the modules for burning, ripping and, I suppose, file conversion (though I didn't explore that function) are full of gaps and things that Jaws can't pick up just moving about with the Tab key and arrow keys, as before. Some items can be tricked into speaking, if you know they're there in the first place, by using the Say Line command, but others just are invisible or completely impossible to make sense of. I hear blank where I'm sure there's a setting or control, true as an alternative to check about something, I have no idea what, and the browser views and list views involved in finding files and listing them to burn, for instance, are not possible for me to figure out. I just wind up tabbing around and around. Once, I managed to create a CD from files on my hard drive, but I was so confused that I don't remember how I managed it. Has anyone else had trouble with this new version? I've contacted the developer, who wrote back to me very quickly, though he seemed surprised and a little taken aback at my inquiry, and at first just asked if there were some Jaws patches that could be used, or something like that. I explained that when possible, a program interface was coded in a way that let Jaws identify its features, and when that failed, there were volunteer script writers. But that this was an informal arrangement, so that you can't just order something to compensate for a poorly labeled interface. I offered to help find him resources and links for learning more about coding or whatever you call it to interface with Jaws, but he hasn't written back again, yet. I'm hoping to maintain a respectful relationship, because I'd like to support his work, and the program seems nicely designed, very clean, from what I experienced with the earlier version. Anyone else have experience with this new version of the program? I got the impressing that it's popular with screen reader people, so I wonder if others are having less trouble with this than I am, or know how to improve the situation. Thanks. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: digital audio books
I think what was being discussed was just narrated audio books. The National Library Service is in the slow process of superseding the cassette with digital, downloadable audio files. - Original Message - From: leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:41 AM Subject: Re: digital audio books because if your talking about web braille they are brf files and you can download them onto your bookport, bok courier. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.11/45 - Release Date: 7/9/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.11/45 - Release Date: 7/9/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: digital audio books
I'm no more sure about this than you are. It's been a couple of months since I last checked the page of their web site where they lay out this program and explain their objectives in regard to format and all that. I don't have time to find the URL right now, have to run. But if you go to the Library of Congress/National Library Service site and look for the link to the page about this topic. I'll be interested to know if they've said anything new, lately. - Original Message - From: Brent Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 1:00 PM Subject: Re: digital audio books I thought nls was making it daisy format, which requires yet another expensive playback device. Thought I came upon an article saying it'd be something on CF cards. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 9:26 AM Subject: Re: digital audio books I think what was being discussed was just narrated audio books. The National Library Service is in the slow process of superseding the cassette with digital, downloadable audio files. - Original Message - From: leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:41 AM Subject: Re: digital audio books because if your talking about web braille they are brf files and you can download them onto your bookport, bok courier. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.11/45 - Release Date: 7/9/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.11/45 - Release Date: 7/9/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.13/47 - Release Date: 7/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.13/47 - Release Date: 7/12/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: digital audio books
p.s. I had an extra minute. Here's the National Library Service address: http://www.loc.gov/nls/ - Original Message - From: Brent Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 1:00 PM Subject: Re: digital audio books I thought nls was making it daisy format, which requires yet another expensive playback device. Thought I came upon an article saying it'd be something on CF cards. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 9:26 AM Subject: Re: digital audio books I think what was being discussed was just narrated audio books. The National Library Service is in the slow process of superseding the cassette with digital, downloadable audio files. - Original Message - From: leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:41 AM Subject: Re: digital audio books because if your talking about web braille they are brf files and you can download them onto your bookport, bok courier. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.11/45 - Release Date: 7/9/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.11/45 - Release Date: 7/9/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.13/47 - Release Date: 7/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.13/47 - Release Date: 7/12/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: digital audio books
Okay. Got it. I guess you meant it *will* bbe compatible, when it finally happens. I sure hope so. Otherwise it's going to be quite a crazy mess. - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 7:40 PM Subject: Re: digital audio books I think that the Library of Congress is supposed to go digital with it's talkingbook program in 2008. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 8:39 PM Subject: Re: digital audio books I thought the Library of Congress changeover to digital audio was several years away yet. How is it that you know it currently works in BookPort and such? You said it works, present tense. Did you actually mean it will work? thanks. Just want to understand whether you're talking about the present or the future. Thank you very much. nse. - Original Message - From: leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 10:50 PM Subject: Re: digital audio books yes it works with book port. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.11/44 - Release Date: 7/8/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.11/44 - Release Date: 7/8/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.11/44 - Release Date: 7/8/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.11/44 - Release Date: 7/8/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy CDDA Extractor 821
Hi, I just bought a copy of the new release for myself, and from what I read on the site it seems that this developer is open to correspondence from users. I suggest you simply write to him exactly what you've written here, and see what he says. Maybe no one has made this observation to him yet, and he'll be happy to learn that it's a problem. iply - Original Message - From: Jardata_Mailservices [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 8:28 AM Subject: Easy CDDA Extractor 821 Well! I can't for the life of me understand why the writer changed the check/unchecked notification feature at all. It use to work just fine and it did not do anything bad to the program so why bother with it. I purchased the program back in early 2000/20001 and that original version allowed you to just arrow up and down the list and it would let you know which track was checked or unchecked. In fact, there was an option in the settings area that asked you whether or not you wanted to use check boxes or not. With this checked to yes ensured you would have this data read or you could set things with checkboxes and know whether or not a track was selected or not. The layout acts the same, so why not put it back. I just can't understand why programmers feel they must tamper with things that work. There is absolutely nothing improved in the program by making this info ungettable. I would say to the programmer put it back and make the program better for us all. James Robinsonothehc ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/42 - Release Date: 7/6/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/42 - Release Date: 7/6/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available
Open the preferences tab array with F4 or from the menus. Control tab to the file name tab. Tab once or twice to find the place where you're supposed to type in a path designating where the ripped (extracted) files are to go. It must be putting them in a default folder. I can't remember where that might be. But if you go look around the filename tab, you'll see where they've gone, and then be able to change that destination if you wish. Hope this helps. ilanme - Original Message - From: Ken Buxton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 7:57 PM Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available Don't forget the extracter program called cd ex; You can down load it from various spots but the one I remember is from jaws lite site; As I say, it's free! It works very well. I just extracted three commercial cd's, but can't find my extracted stuff despite looking around all over the old puter! grin; Seriously, does anyone know how to find these files as I looked in every nook and crany but alas no luck; I'm wondering if the prog cd ex has barried them somewhere within cd ex? Txs for any suggestions; Ken b - Original Message - From: Wollner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 8:23 PM Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available What web site can you get this program from and what is the price of it if any? Casey - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 12:47 PM Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available I'm not Steve, but I can't recommend this program enough. The only problem I've found from an accessibility standpoint is that when you are selecting individual tracks to be ripped, JAWS won't give you the checked/unchecked status. I don't know about Window-Eyes, perhaps someone could respond to that from a WE perspective. All it takes to get around this is a little memorization. One really nice feature of Easy CD-DA Extractor is that it integrates itself into Windows Explorer's context menus, so converting a file or burning it to a CD is as simple as right-clicking or hitting the context menu key on a file and choosing the appropriate option. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, Yardbird wrote: Hi Steve, Do you use this program yourself? If so, how would you rate it in terms of screen reader accessibility and non-visual simplicity, compared to other prominent programs you may be familiar with like Nero, Easy Media Creator, etc.? Thanks a lot. If you know anyplace online where the program is reviewed for accessibility and usability, what's the URL or name of such a site? - Original Message - From: Steve Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 6:44 AM Subject: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now available from www.poikosoft.com. Here are the changes in this version: Added C2 Error Corrrection Improved Error Recovery reading modes Improved error reporting Enabling C2 Error Information and/or Error Recovery reading mode ensures that you will always get a perfect copy of a CD Regards Steve, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: steve1963 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 7/1/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date
Re: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available
Thanks. Someone else mentioned this key command, also, and it's really nice to know. BTW, I just reread my earlier message below, and I mistyped the name of the program I was expressing interest in. I meant Easy Cd/DA extractor, not Creator. Sorry. ooene - Original Message - From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:58 PM Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available Try using control-1 to paste the files, and it will work. You can paste folder names in the same way. Set up the view to tree view in the options, (I think it's miscellaneous) press tab to the file browser, and just hit control-1 anywhere there is a file or folder you wish to paste. Curtis Delzer on Monday 6/27/2005 02:18 PM, Yardbird said: I've had a little experience, mostly pretty frustrating, trying to learn to use Nero Ultra Version 6 with Jaws. I've been able to figure out how to set most of the options, both in the preferences and on the tabs or pages that come up when you begin a compilation or copy procedure, but the actual procedure is pretty baffling to me, just a lot of blind, aimless tabbing around and trying to figure out how to select and paste files into the compilation window, mainly, that's the problem. To those with experience using Easy CD Creator with Jaws, is the program interface any more intuitive, orderly and well labeled than Nero Ultra Version 6? If it is, I'd be happy to give it a try and simplify this activity enough to enjoy it instead of it being such a baffling challenge. Thanks for any experienced comments. - Original Message - From: Steve Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 6:44 AM Subject: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now available from www.poikosoft.com. Here are the changes in this version: Added C2 Error Corrrection Improved Error Recovery reading modes Improved error reporting Enabling C2 Error Information and/or Error Recovery reading mode ensures that you will always get a perfect copy of a CD Regards Steve, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: steve1963 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available
thanks, Steve, for the comments. My primary interest here isn't ripping, but burning. I use CDex for ripping tracks to .mp3s. It's the burning process whose accessibility and intuitive design I'm most interested in. Thanks again. - Original Message - From: Steve Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 5:33 AM Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available I use Easy CD DA Extractor and find it fairly accessible. You can hear a review of a MUCH EARLIER VERSION OF this program in the Main Menu archives on the ACB Radio home page at www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=19MMN_position=30:29. The edition with the review is dated 21 March 2001. Below are some notes I received from another Window-Eyes user about the accessibility of this program: -Steve. Here it is. Note that, as he says, the first track you'll be on after following his steps will be track2. So, if you wanted to select track1, you'd have to up arrow once, and press the spacebar. If you then pressed alt+1, you'd here track1 played. If you've used this program for a while, I'm sure you already know that to operate the player controls, you have to use the bypass key (insert+b) in every case. I will explain here as a summary the most important key combination You must do to get tracks selected with the Space key: 1. In the very beginning (after the CD is inserted and auto queue read) press Function Key F2 (Edit Artist), then F3 (Edit Title) and Finally once more F2 key! Now You have to press the Enter Key and immediately after that the Left Arrow just once - This gets You to line 2 (second title) to selectable state. 2. Now You can use the Up and Down Arrow keys to navigate the rows and at each row You like to select press the Spacebar. When all is done press F8 to get all those Ripped! Do not press Arrow key at all. 3. If You get stuck and cannot go to next line just repeat section 1 at this post (Press F2, F3, F2, Enter and Left Arrow) and You will be at the selectable state again at the next row! 4. Just use Your screen reader or better yet the Alt+1 to play the current track and Alt+6 to stop playing. That's like browsing by sense of hearing to know where your cursor (selected line) is! 5. One more note: if you like to rip all the tracks at an album, just press the F8 Function Key at the very beginning. It will select all tracks by default and Rip them! (If Control+A and Control+N are reserved keys at Your screen reader application, they won't work at Easy CD-DA Extractor version 7!) At 03:35 AM 5/07/2005, you wrote: Do you use this program yourself? If so, how would you rate it in terms of screen reader accessibility and non-visual simplicity, compared to other prominent programs you may be familiar with like Nero, Easy Media Creator, etc.? Thanks a lot. If you know anyplace online where the program is reviewed for accessibility and usability, what's the URL or name of such a site? Regards Steve, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: steve1963 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available
Wendy, It's $24.95 to register the full version. To buy it, in other words. This is what it says on the site at this time, although others have suggested a variety of other prices. Hope this helps. - Original Message - From: WENDY N DEWESSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 10:01 AM Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available What's the price of this software? - Original Message - From: hank [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available if you do the say line feature when selecting a track it will say track 2 check box checked or not checked but you have to use the say line feature to get that feature to work. hth hank - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 10:47 AM Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available I'm not Steve, but I can't recommend this program enough. The only problem I've found from an accessibility standpoint is that when you are selecting individual tracks to be ripped, JAWS won't give you the checked/unchecked status. I don't know about Window-Eyes, perhaps someone could respond to that from a WE perspective. All it takes to get around this is a little memorization. One really nice feature of Easy CD-DA Extractor is that it integrates itself into Windows Explorer's context menus, so converting a file or burning it to a CD is as simple as right-clicking or hitting the context menu key on a file and choosing the appropriate option. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, Yardbird wrote: Hi Steve, Do you use this program yourself? If so, how would you rate it in terms of screen reader accessibility and non-visual simplicity, compared to other prominent programs you may be familiar with like Nero, Easy Media Creator, etc.? Thanks a lot. If you know anyplace online where the program is reviewed for accessibility and usability, what's the URL or name of such a site? - Original Message - From: Steve Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 6:44 AM Subject: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now available from www.poikosoft.com. Here are the changes in this version: Added C2 Error Corrrection Improved Error Recovery reading modes Improved error reporting Enabling C2 Error Information and/or Error Recovery reading mode ensures that you will always get a perfect copy of a CD Regards Steve, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: steve1963 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available
that's terrific to know, Hank. that would make it doable, as we say. Thanks. I'm starting to lean toward just buying the baby. I mean, $24.95, and apparently going to a programmer or a small company that has integrity and is more community-minded than the bigger vendors of such programs. Or at least that's what it seems like, from reading the stuff on their site. Thanks again. And Bruce, did you catch that? Maybe it's not all just dependent on memory, after all, with this selection issue. . Original Message - From: hank [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available if you do the say line feature when selecting a track it will say track 2 check box checked or not checked but you have to use the say line feature to get that feature to work. hth hank - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 10:47 AM Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available I'm not Steve, but I can't recommend this program enough. The only problem I've found from an accessibility standpoint is that when you are selecting individual tracks to be ripped, JAWS won't give you the checked/unchecked status. I don't know about Window-Eyes, perhaps someone could respond to that from a WE perspective. All it takes to get around this is a little memorization. One really nice feature of Easy CD-DA Extractor is that it integrates itself into Windows Explorer's context menus, so converting a file or burning it to a CD is as simple as right-clicking or hitting the context menu key on a file and choosing the appropriate option. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, Yardbird wrote: Hi Steve, Do you use this program yourself? If so, how would you rate it in terms of screen reader accessibility and non-visual simplicity, compared to other prominent programs you may be familiar with like Nero, Easy Media Creator, etc.? Thanks a lot. If you know anyplace online where the program is reviewed for accessibility and usability, what's the URL or name of such a site? - Original Message - From: Steve Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 6:44 AM Subject: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now available from www.poikosoft.com. Here are the changes in this version: Added C2 Error Corrrection Improved Error Recovery reading modes Improved error reporting Enabling C2 Error Information and/or Error Recovery reading mode ensures that you will always get a perfect copy of a CD Regards Steve, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: steve1963 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/38 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/38 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Admin: Vacation and list moderation
Hi, the instructions are right at the bottom of your message, as they post with every message. hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Berneta Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 2:23 AM Subject: RE: Admin: Vacation and list moderation Please send me the information on unsubscribing. hThanks. Berneta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff - The Ultra Guy Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 3:06 PM To: BlindTech; pc-audio Subject: Admin: Vacation and list moderation I will be attending the ACB Convention in Las Vegas this year. During my absence, Bruce Toews will be moderating my lists. Please do what you can to make his job easy by keeping your messages on topic. I'm sure Bruce will appreciate it and I know I will. Thank you, Bruce, for taking on this additional responsibility. I'll see y'all in a couple of weeks. Jeff List Owner ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available
Well, I must say that this sounds very encouraging, except for that one thing you cite as an inconvenience. Personally, I've found that I don't cope well with list views in which items won't reveal themselves to Jaws as selected or unselected. I may try to memorize some guiding principle, such as knowing that a list is all selected by default upon its first appearance, and then try to keep in mind exactly on which items I've pressed the space bar to toggle selection on or off, but inevitably I lose track of what I've done and get the whole thing balled up. Who are the brave and talented people who write scripts for these purposes? How can someone like me petition one of them to help bring this one delinquent feature of an otherwise accessible program up to the same standards as the rest of that interface? Is there any way to contact these guys (and women, if there are women among them, as well)? Thanks. Just wanting dearly to settle on one burning program and get comfortable and skillful with it. BTW, I know this one can also rip, but I'm satisfied to use CDex for that because I've invested a lot of time and effort and drawn on other people's generosity to learn how to use it adroitly. So I'm not as concerned about the ripping procedures in Easy CD/DVD Extractor as I am about the burning routine. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 10:47 AM Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available I'm not Steve, but I can't recommend this program enough. The only problem I've found from an accessibility standpoint is that when you are selecting individual tracks to be ripped, JAWS won't give you the checked/unchecked status. I don't know about Window-Eyes, perhaps someone could respond to that from a WE perspective. All it takes to get around this is a little memorization. One really nice feature of Easy CD-DA Extractor is that it integrates itself into Windows Explorer's context menus, so converting a file or burning it to a CD is as simple as right-clicking or hitting the context menu key on a file and choosing the appropriate option. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, Yardbird wrote: Hi Steve, Do you use this program yourself? If so, how would you rate it in terms of screen reader accessibility and non-visual simplicity, compared to other prominent programs you may be familiar with like Nero, Easy Media Creator, etc.? Thanks a lot. If you know anyplace online where the program is reviewed for accessibility and usability, what's the URL or name of such a site? - Original Message - From: Steve Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 6:44 AM Subject: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now available from www.poikosoft.com. Here are the changes in this version: Added C2 Error Corrrection Improved Error Recovery reading modes Improved error reporting Enabling C2 Error Information and/or Error Recovery reading mode ensures that you will always get a perfect copy of a CD Regards Steve, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: steve1963 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/38 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/38 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available
Hi Steve, Do you use this program yourself? If so, how would you rate it in terms of screen reader accessibility and non-visual simplicity, compared to other prominent programs you may be familiar with like Nero, Easy Media Creator, etc.? Thanks a lot. If you know anyplace online where the program is reviewed for accessibility and usability, what's the URL or name of such a site? - Original Message - From: Steve Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 6:44 AM Subject: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now available from www.poikosoft.com. Here are the changes in this version: Added C2 Error Corrrection Improved Error Recovery reading modes Improved error reporting Enabling C2 Error Information and/or Error Recovery reading mode ensures that you will always get a perfect copy of a CD Regards Steve, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: steve1963 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/38 - Release Date: 7/4/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audible manager question.
thanks for mentioning this. I think I read it in some Audible manager keyboard instructions more than a year ago, and forgot it, because I generally just use my speaker-mounted volume knob at times like this. But it's nice to be reminded that I have a keyboard option. Daniel dyboard - Original Message - From: JULIE MELTON [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 9:07 AM Subject: RE: Audible manager question. If you mean the player in Audible Manager, Control-U is up and Control-D is down. HTH JulieMelton visit me at www.heart-and-music.com Keep smiling! From: Jim Noseworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org To: PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Audible manager question. Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:03:48 -0300 Hi Folks: Can one control the volume in Audible manager? Thanks all over the place gnag. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.7/34 - Release Date: 6/29/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.7/34 - Release Date: 6/29/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audible manager question.
Hi, I use Audible manager to listen to programs from audible.com, and so far as I'm aware, there isn't any volume control offered in the playback function they call the desktop player. However, you can also set it up to use Windows Media Player, which does have volume settings, for instance. Maybe Real Player, also. Or you could just tweak the volume knob on your computer's speaker, as I do. but you knew that. Daniel slo.dible.com - Original Message - From: Jim Noseworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:03 AM Subject: Audible manager question. Hi Folks: Can one control the volume in Audible manager? Thanks all over the place gnag. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.7/34 - Release Date: 6/29/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.7/34 - Release Date: 6/29/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW
James, I'd read good things about the screen reader accessibility of Easy Cd/DVD Creator 6, and had learned that you can still get leftover copies from places such as Staples, when someone gave me a copy of Nero Ultra Version 6 as a birthday gift. Now both of these poroducts have been superseded by new versions: The Nero V. 7 to which hank refers, and Roxio Easy Media Creator, about whose accesibility I don't know anything, but which is now in the same price range as Nero. So I'm going to keep trying to get more comfortable with Nero and, if it just keeps seeming too complicated for my comfort, I'll buy a copy of Easy CD/DVD Extractor, a new version of which was just released. The last version, which I tried out as a demo, seemed pretty easy to use, and it's only $24.95. What fun. I mean, burning CDs really *is* fun and neat to be able to do,but some of theprograms can make me feel as if I must be going crazy. And that is *not* much fun. thanks for responding. I'll see what I can manage with what I've got. - Original Message - From: hank [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:52 PM Subject: Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW version 7? last I tried that one it didn't work with jaws - Original Message - From: James Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 5:06 PM Subject: Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW Daniel, have you tried Roxio? I used Nero, and didn't really like it, because, yes, it was really confusing, but Roxio works great! Hope I gave you a new Idea... James ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.5/32 - Release Date: 6/27/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.5/32 - Release Date: 6/27/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW
Hi, I don't mean to seem unappreciative, but I know all this. What I've tried to explain I was having trouble with was actually finding the compilation list and being able to make the paste-in work. If you're confident working with this interface, it may be difficult to imagine what I'm describing. One thing no one has mentioned is that no matter how accessible some reports and users say Nero Ultra 6 is with a screen reader, my experience has been that certain key elements simply aren't labeled, at least not in a way that my screen reader, Jaws, can see. Maybe it's different for others, I don't know. But as I tab back and forth through the page that comes up at this point in the process, it's all hit or miss to me whether I quickly find the file browser (which I do have set to be there( and then, having gotten to the folder whose files I want to copy, which window is the files list window and which is the compilation window, and I tab back and forth a lot trying to figure it out. I'd be awfully happy if when I arrived at each of these screen elements, they would actually announce themselves. For instance, if I tabbed to the compilation list, and it *said* compilation list. Maybe it does, if you can see it, but it doesn't say this with Jaws. Even now, I'm not sure if what I'm describing is clear to those who are more adept with the program. In any case, I'm learning by repeating the process a few times and making a few mistakes, but it's all right. And of course I've gread the documentation, in fact I've read it a couple of times, carefully. It's just that I' have trouble correlating what I learn there with what Jaws is able to tell me about certain parts of the procedure. Experience will teach me how to go through the steps more confidently, though, I'm sure. Thanks for your help. - Original Message - From: Larry Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:52 AM Subject: Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW All you really have to do is open up the folder in which the files you desire to copy, or convert to audio files from a compression format such as mp3 from Windows Explorer, and select all with ctrl-a, and go to the file list field in Nero, and paste them in, and you are set to go. At 08:25 PM 6/27/2005, you wrote: P.S. Russell, you're kidding about the dragging and dropping, aren't you? So far as I know, that's an action that can be achieved only with mouse and eyesight. What I'd been trying to do, in a confused way (because I was never sure if I was attempting to paste files into the right place) was just copy and paste. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 3:51 PM Subject: Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW Hi, I can't help you with the white noise problem, but to make your life easier, when you have a file selected, instead of dragging and dropping it, try pressing control 1, the top row one, and that will put the selection(s) into your compilation. You can use standard windows selection techniques, i.e. control key and space bar to pick non contiguous files, and a control one will put them all in the compilation. Hope this makes life easier. Rusty At 04:34 PM 6/27/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:- Last week, I bought my first supply of CD/Rs, a spindle of 30 so I could start using Nero Ultra Version 6. I knew there would be something of a learning curve, because it's been a little confusing to learn how to copy and paste tracks from the window with the file browser into the compilation window, but I figured out some kind of trick about tabbing or shift tabbing at just the right juncture to find the empty compilation window and paste the files into it. I still can't describe just how I did it. This is really a fumbling around situation. What I wouldn't give for a truly screen reader friendly, well labeled more intuitively designed program. BTW, I've tried Premier, and that didn't really do it for me, and I don't want to go into that again. Anyway, after that opening digression, here's my real problem: The first couple of CDs I burned as compilations from files on my hard drive and, in at least one case, copied from a music CD directly, worked fine. By which I mean they played not only in my computer and my recent-vintage CD player in my stereo, but they also played on my several-years-old Panasonic Discman-type portable player, which wouldn't have worked if I'd been using CD/RWs by accident. But the friend who helped me buy these blank discs, as well as another friend, reassured me that they're CD/Rs. Okay, so then I've burned another couple of CDs since those first ones, once a copy from another CD, and the other effort a compilation burned from .mp3
Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW
It's the command control-1 (number row) which will paste the files you've selected into your compilation window, so you don't have to copy and paste or use a screen reader method of dragging and dropping. asste opntrol - Original Message - From: hank [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:32 AM Subject: Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW what command are you talking about? - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 11:03 PM Subject: Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW P.S. on previous: I just found a review of Nero Ultra Version 6 on a Web site where one of the two reviews describes the Control-1 method of copying selected files into the compilation list. The reviewer says that Ahead included this key command as a courtesy to blind users. Now I know where Russell may have gotten it, and don't need to learn how to do blind drag n/ drop. However, Bruce, I'd love to hear about the technique in order to add it to my skills in case it ever should come in handy. - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 10:02 PM Subject: Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW Dragging and dropping is quite doable with a screen reader, so this should not hinder you. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, Yardbird wrote: P.S. Russell, you're kidding about the dragging and dropping, aren't you? So far as I know, that's an action that can be achieved only with mouse and eyesight. What I'd been trying to do, in a confused way (because I was never sure if I was attempting to paste files into the right place) was just copy and paste. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 3:51 PM Subject: Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW Hi, I can't help you with the white noise problem, but to make your life easier, when you have a file selected, instead of dragging and dropping it, try pressing control 1, the top row one, and that will put the selection(s) into your compilation. You can use standard windows selection techniques, i.e. control key and space bar to pick non contiguous files, and a control one will put them all in the compilation. Hope this makes life easier. Rusty At 04:34 PM 6/27/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:- Last week, I bought my first supply of CD/Rs, a spindle of 30 so I could start using Nero Ultra Version 6. I knew there would be something of a learning curve, because it's been a little confusing to learn how to copy and paste tracks from the window with the file browser into the compilation window, but I figured out some kind of trick about tabbing or shift tabbing at just the right juncture to find the empty compilation window and paste the files into it. I still can't describe just how I did it. This is really a fumbling around situation. What I wouldn't give for a truly screen reader friendly, well labeled more intuitively designed program. BTW, I've tried Premier, and that didn't really do it for me, and I don't want to go into that again. Anyway, after that opening digression, here's my real problem: The first couple of CDs I burned as compilations from files on my hard drive and, in at least one case, copied from a music CD directly, worked fine. By which I mean they played not only in my computer and my recent-vintage CD player in my stereo, but they also played on my several-years-old Panasonic Discman-type portable player, which wouldn't have worked if I'd been using CD/RWs by accident. But the friend who helped me buy these blank discs, as well as another friend, reassured me that they're CD/Rs. Okay, so then I've burned another couple of CDs since those first ones, once a copy from another CD, and the other effort a compilation burned from .mp3 files. But these last two are behaving as if I'd used CD/RWs instead of CD/Rs. They'll play in my computer, and they'll play in my stereo system, but on my portable player, they just play as static or a kind of white noise. I'm not aware of having changed any settings on any of the tabs in Nero since the first couple of discs,but I still find this program confusing enough so that maybe, just maybe, I mistakenly changed something and am not aware of what I've done. for those who know Nero and are familiar with this stuff, is there anything at all that could have produced
Re: Making CD suggestion
Okay, thanks for explaining. I take it these are music CDs you're talking about? Well, if a music CD is in mono-- the kind of example I'm thinking of is something like a pre-stereo recording of classical music that they don't want to mess with and distort, or an early rock and roll or pop record that also has been put on CD in its original mono form, then what does the copy process have to do in order to burn a new, playable CD from them? I'm talking at the level of the sound and channels, here, nothing more technical at your level. What I mean is, does the burn program have to do what used to be called a simulated stereo recording of the mono source, and artificially separate out the sound into a left and right channel, even if it sounds a little crude? Is that what you're describing? Or is it something more subtle, so that the result is still in mono as it's supposed to be, but it's reproduced properly on the burned Cd? Do you see what I'm asking? If I have the wrong sort of example in mind, please explain. Thanks, Daniel - Original Message - From: Larry Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:10 AM Subject: Re: Making CD suggestion Yardbird, Maybe this is more like 1 and a half cents worth, but here goes. I read a post above that assures me that Nero will reincode from mono into stereo. The only reason I say that is less than the usual two cents worth is that I happen to use Nero 6 Ultra Edition, but haven't had the need lately to make any audio cds that require the reincoding necessary, since the main person I made such cds for now has a player that will play mp3s. However, I used to use CDRWin, and that was my main gripe with that program. It would not reincode such mono files, making it necessary to use CDEX to reincode into stereo in order to turn them into playable tracks. The required standard for playing audio files on commercial players is to use the 44100khz stereo attribute, or such files simply will not play, and nono attribute will not do unless they have been reincoded by your burning program, or they are done via another program like CDEX. At 05:50 PM 6/25/2005, you wrote: 1. The other burn programs also use this method of creating am image to work from, unless you set them deliberately to record on the fly without doing so. 2. I'm pretty sure that it's very simple: You burn stereo music tracks to a CD, they remain stereo. You burn mono tracks, they remain mono, and the same material goes into each channel. I don't think there's any alternative. And of course Nero or another similar program can't create a stereo CD out of monaural material, nor do I think those programs can combine channels to make monaural recordings from stereo tracks. I'm certain, of course, and the people at PC-Audio list are bound to know these things, there are more sophisticated burning and recording programs that can probably produce simulated stereo from mono sources, and make a monaural recording out of a stereo one. But that's at the level of sophisticated recording technology, not the consumer level I think Nero, Easy CD/DVD creator, and the like function at. - Original Message - From: Andrea Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 3:28 PM Subject: Re: Making CD suggestion Can't answer that one. Don't use either of those products. I guess the only way to find out how closely a cd copy could match the original would be to use Nero to make an .mrg image of the original audio cd and then play that and check. Nero is the only program which will make an image of an audio cd that I know of. UltraIso will image an audio cd but in Nero's proprietory .nrg format only. - Original Message - From: Steve Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:21 AM Subject: Re: Making CD suggestion I wonder when I make an exact copy of a cd using sonic or windows media player if they are stereo files like the original cds. web site www.rellek.com/stevegomes phone 720-747-4990 - Original Message - From: Andrea Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Making CD suggestion If you are using Nero 6 the program will automatically convert to the appropriate format. In other words just at the files in their current format to a new audio cd compilation and then burn that compilation to cd. Nero itself will convert to stereo. You must realise that Nero can't make mono in to stereo ie. you won't hear stereo sound. However Nero will reformat so that to a cd player the tracks will appear as cd quality stereo-if that all makes any sense. BTW I have noticed that when this process takes place Nero appears to be running very slowly ie. when
Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW
Hi Kevin, Good to hear from you! I still appreciate how nicely you demystified CDex settings for me. First of all, as I have said before, I'm not stranger to navigating around my own hard drive in Windows Explorer. Nor to cutting, copying and pasting. So don't worry about that, I get it. But here's the part that may amuse you and help you to see where my confusion comes from, at least partly: You say that I'll know I'm in the compilation files list where I want to place the files to be burned when I hear ISO One Or Audio one (or with the numeral 1, whatever)? Well, that's a new bit of info to me. I think I've heard something announced like that when tabbing around that dialogue or windows, you know the one, but I had no idea what that designated. It didn't say anything like 'Compilation, for example. I have no idea what people see visually when they're looking at this whole function, and it really frustrates me. Because in so many other, more clearly accessible programs, I can describe screen elements in the same terms as my sighted friends do, element for element. That's why I say this is weird for me. Difficult. In any case, I'll try it this way once and see if it helps. It wasn't that I couldn't copy files from the browser in the burn window, you see; I just couldn't figure out when I heard list view again whether it was the compilation window or not! Ack. Now Bruce, if you decide to withhold this message from the list and don't think it will benefit anyone else, please notify me so I can send it privately to this subscriber. Thank you very much. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:02 PM Subject: Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW Hi Daniel. Try using nero without the file browser. Simply start nero in the usual way and start a new compilation. Now start windows explorer using windows key + E and browse to your music folder. You can now tab back and forth between the two windows. JAWS will announce ISO1 or AUDIO1 when you're in the nero window and the name of the folder when you're in the windows explorer window. Use control + C to copy your track from your windows explorer window and alt + tab to the ISO1 or AUDIO1 window. As soon as you hear JAWS announce either of these, use control + V to paste the tracks into your compilation. Note that this method does not use the keystroke control + f1 as that is specific to the file browser. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 6:14 PM Subject: Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW Hi, I don't mean to seem unappreciative, but I know all this. What I've tried to explain I was having trouble with was actually finding the compilation list and being able to make the paste-in work. If you're confident working with this interface, it may be difficult to imagine what I'm describing. One thing no one has mentioned is that no matter how accessible some reports and users say Nero Ultra 6 is with a screen reader, my experience has been that certain key elements simply aren't labeled, at least not in a way that my screen reader, Jaws, can see. Maybe it's different for others, I don't know. But as I tab back and forth through the page that comes up at this point in the process, it's all hit or miss to me whether I quickly find the file browser (which I do have set to be there( and then, having gotten to the folder whose files I want to copy, which window is the files list window and which is the compilation window, and I tab back and forth a lot trying to figure it out. I'd be awfully happy if when I arrived at each of these screen elements, they would actually announce themselves. For instance, if I tabbed to the compilation list, and it *said* compilation list. Maybe it does, if you can see it, but it doesn't say this with Jaws. Even now, I'm not sure if what I'm describing is clear to those who are more adept with the program. In any case, I'm learning by repeating the process a few times and making a few mistakes, but it's all right. And of course I've gread the documentation, in fact I've read it a couple of times, carefully. It's just that I' have trouble correlating what I learn there with what Jaws is able to tell me about certain parts of the procedure. Experience will teach me how to go through the steps more confidently, though, I'm sure. Thanks for your help. - Original Message - From: Larry Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:52 AM Subject: Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW All you really have to do is open up the folder in which the files you desire
Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW
Hi, No I don't do netphone. Don't you think it might be useful to everyone if you share your expertise here instead of privately? Thanks a lot, Daniel - Original Message - From: Sun Sparkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 3:57 PM Subject: Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW danneil contact me off list maybe i can help you out. do you have skype? - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC-Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 3:34 PM Subject: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW Last week, I bought my first supply of CD/Rs, a spindle of 30 so I could start using Nero Ultra Version 6. I knew there would be something of a learning curve, because it's been a little confusing to learn how to copy and paste tracks from the window with the file browser into the compilation window, but I figured out some kind of trick about tabbing or shift tabbing at just the right juncture to find the empty compilation window and paste the files into it. I still can't describe just how I did it. This is really a fumbling around situation. What I wouldn't give for a truly screen reader friendly, well labeled more intuitively designed program. BTW, I've tried Premier, and that didn't really do it for me, and I don't want to go into that again. Anyway, after that opening digression, here's my real problem: The first couple of CDs I burned as compilations from files on my hard drive and, in at least one case, copied from a music CD directly, worked fine. By which I mean they played not only in my computer and my recent-vintage CD player in my stereo, but they also played on my several-years-old Panasonic Discman-type portable player, which wouldn't have worked if I'd been using CD/RWs by accident. But the friend who helped me buy these blank discs, as well as another friend, reassured me that they're CD/Rs. Okay, so then I've burned another couple of CDs since those first ones, once a copy from another CD, and the other effort a compilation burned from .mp3 files. But these last two are behaving as if I'd used CD/RWs instead of CD/Rs. They'll play in my computer, and they'll play in my stereo system, but on my portable player, they just play as static or a kind of white noise. I'm not aware of having changed any settings on any of the tabs in Nero since the first couple of discs,but I still find this program confusing enough so that maybe, just maybe, I mistakenly changed something and am not aware of what I've done. for those who know Nero and are familiar with this stuff, is there anything at all that could have produced this result other than using CD/RWs that won't play on lots of units like car stereos and portable players? Informed suggestions welcome. Thanks in advance, Daniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW
P.S. on previous: I just found a review of Nero Ultra Version 6 on a Web site where one of the two reviews describes the Control-1 method of copying selected files into the compilation list. The reviewer says that Ahead included this key command as a courtesy to blind users. Now I know where Russell may have gotten it, and don't need to learn how to do blind drag n/ drop. However, Bruce, I'd love to hear about the technique in order to add it to my skills in case it ever should come in handy. - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 10:02 PM Subject: Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW Dragging and dropping is quite doable with a screen reader, so this should not hinder you. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, Yardbird wrote: P.S. Russell, you're kidding about the dragging and dropping, aren't you? So far as I know, that's an action that can be achieved only with mouse and eyesight. What I'd been trying to do, in a confused way (because I was never sure if I was attempting to paste files into the right place) was just copy and paste. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 3:51 PM Subject: Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW Hi, I can't help you with the white noise problem, but to make your life easier, when you have a file selected, instead of dragging and dropping it, try pressing control 1, the top row one, and that will put the selection(s) into your compilation. You can use standard windows selection techniques, i.e. control key and space bar to pick non contiguous files, and a control one will put them all in the compilation. Hope this makes life easier. Rusty At 04:34 PM 6/27/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:- Last week, I bought my first supply of CD/Rs, a spindle of 30 so I could start using Nero Ultra Version 6. I knew there would be something of a learning curve, because it's been a little confusing to learn how to copy and paste tracks from the window with the file browser into the compilation window, but I figured out some kind of trick about tabbing or shift tabbing at just the right juncture to find the empty compilation window and paste the files into it. I still can't describe just how I did it. This is really a fumbling around situation. What I wouldn't give for a truly screen reader friendly, well labeled more intuitively designed program. BTW, I've tried Premier, and that didn't really do it for me, and I don't want to go into that again. Anyway, after that opening digression, here's my real problem: The first couple of CDs I burned as compilations from files on my hard drive and, in at least one case, copied from a music CD directly, worked fine. By which I mean they played not only in my computer and my recent-vintage CD player in my stereo, but they also played on my several-years-old Panasonic Discman-type portable player, which wouldn't have worked if I'd been using CD/RWs by accident. But the friend who helped me buy these blank discs, as well as another friend, reassured me that they're CD/Rs. Okay, so then I've burned another couple of CDs since those first ones, once a copy from another CD, and the other effort a compilation burned from .mp3 files. But these last two are behaving as if I'd used CD/RWs instead of CD/Rs. They'll play in my computer, and they'll play in my stereo system, but on my portable player, they just play as static or a kind of white noise. I'm not aware of having changed any settings on any of the tabs in Nero since the first couple of discs,but I still find this program confusing enough so that maybe, just maybe, I mistakenly changed something and am not aware of what I've done. for those who know Nero and are familiar with this stuff, is there anything at all that could have produced this result other than using CD/RWs that won't play on lots of units like car stereos and portable players? Informed suggestions welcome. Thanks in advance, Daniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be happy. Talk happiness. Happiness calls out responsive gladness in others. There is enough sadness in the world without yours. (Helen Keller) Check out my web site
Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW
Well, I don't have a clue how it's done. All I know is what I remember from when I could see better; you hold down a mouse button on the material you want to move, deep gthe button depressed, slide the mouse pointer to the destination, and drop the stuff there. Is there some way to do this without seeing it or using the mouse? ounter - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 10:02 PM Subject: Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW Dragging and dropping is quite doable with a screen reader, so this should not hinder you. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, Yardbird wrote: P.S. Russell, you're kidding about the dragging and dropping, aren't you? So far as I know, that's an action that can be achieved only with mouse and eyesight. What I'd been trying to do, in a confused way (because I was never sure if I was attempting to paste files into the right place) was just copy and paste. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 3:51 PM Subject: Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW Hi, I can't help you with the white noise problem, but to make your life easier, when you have a file selected, instead of dragging and dropping it, try pressing control 1, the top row one, and that will put the selection(s) into your compilation. You can use standard windows selection techniques, i.e. control key and space bar to pick non contiguous files, and a control one will put them all in the compilation. Hope this makes life easier. Rusty At 04:34 PM 6/27/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:- Last week, I bought my first supply of CD/Rs, a spindle of 30 so I could start using Nero Ultra Version 6. I knew there would be something of a learning curve, because it's been a little confusing to learn how to copy and paste tracks from the window with the file browser into the compilation window, but I figured out some kind of trick about tabbing or shift tabbing at just the right juncture to find the empty compilation window and paste the files into it. I still can't describe just how I did it. This is really a fumbling around situation. What I wouldn't give for a truly screen reader friendly, well labeled more intuitively designed program. BTW, I've tried Premier, and that didn't really do it for me, and I don't want to go into that again. Anyway, after that opening digression, here's my real problem: The first couple of CDs I burned as compilations from files on my hard drive and, in at least one case, copied from a music CD directly, worked fine. By which I mean they played not only in my computer and my recent-vintage CD player in my stereo, but they also played on my several-years-old Panasonic Discman-type portable player, which wouldn't have worked if I'd been using CD/RWs by accident. But the friend who helped me buy these blank discs, as well as another friend, reassured me that they're CD/Rs. Okay, so then I've burned another couple of CDs since those first ones, once a copy from another CD, and the other effort a compilation burned from .mp3 files. But these last two are behaving as if I'd used CD/RWs instead of CD/Rs. They'll play in my computer, and they'll play in my stereo system, but on my portable player, they just play as static or a kind of white noise. I'm not aware of having changed any settings on any of the tabs in Nero since the first couple of discs,but I still find this program confusing enough so that maybe, just maybe, I mistakenly changed something and am not aware of what I've done. for those who know Nero and are familiar with this stuff, is there anything at all that could have produced this result other than using CD/RWs that won't play on lots of units like car stereos and portable players? Informed suggestions welcome. Thanks in advance, Daniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be happy. Talk happiness. Happiness calls out responsive gladness in others. There is enough sadness in the world without yours. (Helen Keller) Check out my web site at: http://www.thesoundzone.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc
Re: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available
I've had a little experience, mostly pretty frustrating, trying to learn to use Nero Ultra Version 6 with Jaws. I've been able to figure out how to set most of the options, both in the preferences and on the tabs or pages that come up when you begin a compilation or copy procedure, but the actual procedure is pretty baffling to me, just a lot of blind, aimless tabbing around and trying to figure out how to select and paste files into the compilation window, mainly, that's the problem. To those with experience using Easy CD Creator with Jaws, is the program interface any more intuitive, orderly and well labeled than Nero Ultra Version 6? If it is, I'd be happy to give it a try and simplify this activity enough to enjoy it instead of it being such a baffling challenge. Thanks for any experienced comments. - Original Message - From: Steve Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 6:44 AM Subject: Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now Available Easy CD DA Extractor 8.2.1 is now available from www.poikosoft.com. Here are the changes in this version: Added C2 Error Corrrection Improved Error Recovery reading modes Improved error reporting Enabling C2 Error Information and/or Error Recovery reading mode ensures that you will always get a perfect copy of a CD Regards Steve, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: steve1963 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW
Russell, how did you learn about this Control 1 key command? That would be great. So if I manage to get all the files from a single CD's worth of ripped tracks loaded into the first box, and I want the entire album to wind up on the CD I'm burning, I can just use Control A when I'm in that list, and then hit Control 1 and they'll all be placed into the compilation list? Incredible. Come on, tell me where you learned this. It's the only step, although an awfully vital one, that I haven't been able to master reliably in Nero. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 3:51 PM Subject: Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW Hi, I can't help you with the white noise problem, but to make your life easier, when you have a file selected, instead of dragging and dropping it, try pressing control 1, the top row one, and that will put the selection(s) into your compilation. You can use standard windows selection techniques, i.e. control key and space bar to pick non contiguous files, and a control one will put them all in the compilation. Hope this makes life easier. Rusty At 04:34 PM 6/27/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:- Last week, I bought my first supply of CD/Rs, a spindle of 30 so I could start using Nero Ultra Version 6. I knew there would be something of a learning curve, because it's been a little confusing to learn how to copy and paste tracks from the window with the file browser into the compilation window, but I figured out some kind of trick about tabbing or shift tabbing at just the right juncture to find the empty compilation window and paste the files into it. I still can't describe just how I did it. This is really a fumbling around situation. What I wouldn't give for a truly screen reader friendly, well labeled more intuitively designed program. BTW, I've tried Premier, and that didn't really do it for me, and I don't want to go into that again. Anyway, after that opening digression, here's my real problem: The first couple of CDs I burned as compilations from files on my hard drive and, in at least one case, copied from a music CD directly, worked fine. By which I mean they played not only in my computer and my recent-vintage CD player in my stereo, but they also played on my several-years-old Panasonic Discman-type portable player, which wouldn't have worked if I'd been using CD/RWs by accident. But the friend who helped me buy these blank discs, as well as another friend, reassured me that they're CD/Rs. Okay, so then I've burned another couple of CDs since those first ones, once a copy from another CD, and the other effort a compilation burned from .mp3 files. But these last two are behaving as if I'd used CD/RWs instead of CD/Rs. They'll play in my computer, and they'll play in my stereo system, but on my portable player, they just play as static or a kind of white noise. I'm not aware of having changed any settings on any of the tabs in Nero since the first couple of discs,but I still find this program confusing enough so that maybe, just maybe, I mistakenly changed something and am not aware of what I've done. for those who know Nero and are familiar with this stuff, is there anything at all that could have produced this result other than using CD/RWs that won't play on lots of units like car stereos and portable players? Informed suggestions welcome. Thanks in advance, Daniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be happy. Talk happiness. Happiness calls out responsive gladness in others. There is enough sadness in the world without yours. (Helen Keller) Check out my web site at: http://www.thesoundzone.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW
P.S. Russell, you're kidding about the dragging and dropping, aren't you? So far as I know, that's an action that can be achieved only with mouse and eyesight. What I'd been trying to do, in a confused way (because I was never sure if I was attempting to paste files into the right place) was just copy and paste. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 3:51 PM Subject: Re: CD/R compilation burned with Nero behaving like CD/RW Hi, I can't help you with the white noise problem, but to make your life easier, when you have a file selected, instead of dragging and dropping it, try pressing control 1, the top row one, and that will put the selection(s) into your compilation. You can use standard windows selection techniques, i.e. control key and space bar to pick non contiguous files, and a control one will put them all in the compilation. Hope this makes life easier. Rusty At 04:34 PM 6/27/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:- Last week, I bought my first supply of CD/Rs, a spindle of 30 so I could start using Nero Ultra Version 6. I knew there would be something of a learning curve, because it's been a little confusing to learn how to copy and paste tracks from the window with the file browser into the compilation window, but I figured out some kind of trick about tabbing or shift tabbing at just the right juncture to find the empty compilation window and paste the files into it. I still can't describe just how I did it. This is really a fumbling around situation. What I wouldn't give for a truly screen reader friendly, well labeled more intuitively designed program. BTW, I've tried Premier, and that didn't really do it for me, and I don't want to go into that again. Anyway, after that opening digression, here's my real problem: The first couple of CDs I burned as compilations from files on my hard drive and, in at least one case, copied from a music CD directly, worked fine. By which I mean they played not only in my computer and my recent-vintage CD player in my stereo, but they also played on my several-years-old Panasonic Discman-type portable player, which wouldn't have worked if I'd been using CD/RWs by accident. But the friend who helped me buy these blank discs, as well as another friend, reassured me that they're CD/Rs. Okay, so then I've burned another couple of CDs since those first ones, once a copy from another CD, and the other effort a compilation burned from .mp3 files. But these last two are behaving as if I'd used CD/RWs instead of CD/Rs. They'll play in my computer, and they'll play in my stereo system, but on my portable player, they just play as static or a kind of white noise. I'm not aware of having changed any settings on any of the tabs in Nero since the first couple of discs,but I still find this program confusing enough so that maybe, just maybe, I mistakenly changed something and am not aware of what I've done. for those who know Nero and are familiar with this stuff, is there anything at all that could have produced this result other than using CD/RWs that won't play on lots of units like car stereos and portable players? Informed suggestions welcome. Thanks in advance, Daniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be happy. Talk happiness. Happiness calls out responsive gladness in others. There is enough sadness in the world without yours. (Helen Keller) Check out my web site at: http://www.thesoundzone.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: creative nomad muvo 2
Shane, It's entirely accessible. There's no LCD screen at all. It's of course also very simple, necessarily. You simply push buttons to advance one Audible program or .mp3 track at a time, backward or forward. you can pause and unpause, and that's about it. Rudimentary but a nice little unit as far as I'm concerned. And Audible and its tech support staff work with customers all the time if they have any problems with this or any other of the devices that can play their files, so that isn't a problem. Hope this helps, Daniel - Original Message - From: Shane Christenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 6:30 AM Subject: creative nomad muvo 2 Hi listers. does anyone know how accessible this mp3 player is for blind people. also, does audible.com support it? Thanks. Shane ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: creative nomad muvo 2
You didn't leave in any previous message, so I don't know to whom your question is addressed. But since I mentioned the Creative MuVo player, I'll say this: MuVo is the name of one player from Creative labs, and is the one I have. It's a little 128 Mb. player that looks like a slightly overweight thumb drive. It has v the very simplest buttons and controls, not even worth describing, they're so simple. The Nomad is another product of Creative Labs. I have no experience with it, at all. Sorry to disappoint, if you were talking to me. - Original Message - From: Shane Christenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 4:30 PM Subject: Re: creative nomad muvo 2 Hi there. another question. I understand it has a circle pad for up down left and right. Can you explain how that works? and if there's a middle part you cazn press for certain functions, please explain. Thanks for any help. Shane ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making CD suggestion
1. The other burn programs also use this method of creating am image to work from, unless you set them deliberately to record on the fly without doing so. 2. I'm pretty sure that it's very simple: You burn stereo music tracks to a CD, they remain stereo. You burn mono tracks, they remain mono, and the same material goes into each channel. I don't think there's any alternative. And of course Nero or another similar program can't create a stereo CD out of monaural material, nor do I think those programs can combine channels to make monaural recordings from stereo tracks. I'm certain, of course, and the people at PC-Audio list are bound to know these things, there are more sophisticated burning and recording programs that can probably produce simulated stereo from mono sources, and make a monaural recording out of a stereo one. But that's at the level of sophisticated recording technology, not the consumer level I think Nero, Easy CD/DVD creator, and the like function at. - Original Message - From: Andrea Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 3:28 PM Subject: Re: Making CD suggestion Can't answer that one. Don't use either of those products. I guess the only way to find out how closely a cd copy could match the original would be to use Nero to make an .mrg image of the original audio cd and then play that and check. Nero is the only program which will make an image of an audio cd that I know of. UltraIso will image an audio cd but in Nero's proprietory .nrg format only. - Original Message - From: Steve Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:21 AM Subject: Re: Making CD suggestion I wonder when I make an exact copy of a cd using sonic or windows media player if they are stereo files like the original cds. web site www.rellek.com/stevegomes phone 720-747-4990 - Original Message - From: Andrea Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Making CD suggestion If you are using Nero 6 the program will automatically convert to the appropriate format. In other words just at the files in their current format to a new audio cd compilation and then burn that compilation to cd. Nero itself will convert to stereo. You must realise that Nero can't make mono in to stereo ie. you won't hear stereo sound. However Nero will reformat so that to a cd player the tracks will appear as cd quality stereo-if that all makes any sense. BTW I have noticed that when this process takes place Nero appears to be running very slowly ie. when the tracks are being burned to an audio cd. I suspect that this is due to the automatic reformatting process and not to any inherent Nero fault. If you want to do a reverse check of your cd when you have made our audio cd from the mono sources just use Nero or some other ripping program to convert back to say .mp3 format and check the format. You will see that they are indeed 44100 16-bit stereo files. Cheers Andrea - Original Message - From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:27 AM Subject: Making CD suggestion I need to make a audio cd of mono material. How do I do that using Nero? ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CDex settings
I posted this to the JFW list earlier and just realized that maybe Shannon and Boris had asked for help here, not there. That's what I get for not looking at the headers carefully. This is just a description of settings Kevin recommended to me weeks ago, so if he or anyone else thinks there's something here that could be explained better than I have explained it, please feel free to chime in. Daniel I wrote: Dear Boris, Shannon and anyone else who might wish to understand what Jaws is saying in the CDex settings dialogue: (Note: F4 will bring this dialogue up without your having to go to the menus.) To make it simple, I'm going to list the settings that a knowledgeable and generous guy named Kevin on the PC-Audio list suggested and explained to me and others recently. These choices have worked very nicely for me, so far as my ears can tell. And as I play a couple of instruments and love music dearly, those are pretty critical ears, so these suggestions ought to work for you, too. The settings you may wish to understand more about if only out of curiosity might be the choices of high and low bit rate, and the choice of variable bit rate (VBR),average bit rate (ABR) be. There's some explanation in the help files, but it's a little confusing at a couple of points. Not the best documentation, even though it's trying to be user friendly, so to speak. Might be better just to ask about these things on the PC-Audio list so someone can explain better. You might also like to look at instructions on the Helpful Hints page of the JFW Lite Web site http://www.jfwlite.com One item there might interest you, which I'll paste in here: Open the settings dialogue with F4 , and control tab to the file name dialogue. Here you can specify the folder where you want to put wav files to be compressed and also the folder where you want tracks to be stored after For example (Daniel speaking again), I have this set so that c:\my music is the destination folder. So when CDex rips an album, as I think I explained in an earlier message, here's the pathto where the new files end up: C:\my music\artist name\album title Okay, now here are the settings I use: thread priority above normal LAME encoder, first in list leave box unchecked so ripped .wav file will be deleted version MPEG I (first in list) bit rate minimum 128 bit rate maximum 320 J-stereo radio button, check leave the following four checkboxes unchecked quality level high (3 of 13) on-the-fly encoding unchecked (in on-the-fly encoding, the tracks are ripped directly to the compressed format. While this is faster, it can allow errors, whereas the method of making an intermediate .wav file from which to create the compressed file, then deleting it, can result in more accurate results.) means vbr method: default vbr quality zero (highest) Leave the rest of the default settings undisturbed. tab to OK and press Enter to save the settings. Hope this helps, Daniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.11/26 - Release Date: 6/22/2005 -- To post a message to the list, send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.11/26 - Release Date: 6/22/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.11/26 - Release Date: 6/22/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nero burn compilation function unavailable
Shannon, This is a normal thing to do. First you put a music CD into the drive and rip (or extract, or save) some or all its tracks to your computer using a program like CDex or the ripping function of othersuch as Easy CD Media Creator, Nero (if you get the function separately after 330 free samples). These programs create a new folder on your hard drive, usually under the folder My Music. For instance, if I wanted to put all the songs from Michael Jackson's album Thriller (sorry, couldn't help joking around about Jacko this week), here's what you do: 1. Put the CD in the drive. 2. launch your CD ripping program. 3. perform the ripping procedure, which you'll learn how to do with that program. You can set it to extract the track in one of several formats, including the popular compressed formats .mp3 and .wma (windows media audio), which compress it to a tenth the size of the file on the actual CD, or even smaller, without losing very much sound quality.. w Now the album (or just a track or two from it, if that's what you indicated to the program to work with) is on your hard drive. Probably in a folder sequence that goes c:\my music\michael jackson\triller And if you go to the folder Thriller and tab into the files list view (I'm describing being in Windows Explorer here; others prefer to use the My Computer method), you find a list of all the tracks you ripped. If you just wanted to send your friend the track Billie Jean, you'd first make sure it was there, then start a new email message. At any time before sending the message, you'd use the Insert menu in your email program to attach Billie Jean, which would probably appear as billie jean.mp3 in that folder, to the email. Then you'd send the email. When the friend received the email, he or she would click on it (with a mouse if they're sighted, or finding it and opening it with keyboard commands if they're using a screen reader like Jaws), and assuming they have a program like Real Player, Windows Media Player, or Winamp (popular among blind users) set to play .mp3 files, the song would play for them. And they could save it to disfc to hear later, too. Hope that's clear. laer, or Wwith either by noticing it wyour that file but they'l ';xploerr Jacks'omputer- Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 11:16 PM Subject: Re: Nero burn compilation function unavailable Hi Shannon. I think you can do that. - Original Message - From: Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:22 PM Subject: Re: Nero burn compilation function unavailable Hi, am going to start using Nero and had a question. With that program can you save tracts of music on your computer as MP3 or whatever to then send on to others. I mean tracts from CD that then can be sent? I realize that a lot of you are proficient at this but am new at it so appreciate any help and suggestions for settings etc. - Original Message - From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: Re: Nero burn compilation function unavailable Hi Well these itemns are different. one says make audio cd a disk you can play in your traditional stereo. data disk you must use if you want the files to stay in the mp3 format untouched. Best regards Brian - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC-Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 9:49 PM Subject: Nero burn compilation function unavailable Warning. This is going to be a longish post and not written in efficient, point by point form. So anyone whose time is short or who just doesn't enjoy reading anything that wanders a bit, please don't proceed, okay. I don't feel like getting flamed, today. I've got some things on my mind, distracting me, and it would take me an hour to edit and revise this post, and maybe divide it into two separate posts. thanks to anyone who reads it, chuckles a bit at my perplexity,and has any constructive comments to offer about the issues involved, which I'd like to unravel. Today I opened the Nero 6 submenus from the Start Menu/Programs as I always do, then arrowed to Nero Burning ROM and launched it. Previously, using the tabs or pages that come up automatically when you launch Nero Burning ROM (it took me weeks to figure out the joke in the name, cf. Nero Burning Rome (and fiddling all the while, etc.); I'm going to have my IQ checked), I'd copied a couple of CDs and, so far as I remember, burned a couple of compilations (the procedure that one of the other programs calls projects), all from these tabs with their options settings and control buttons. But today I wanted to take another look
Re: Re: Nero burn compilation function unavailable
If you pay for the ripping module after thirty free uses. At least that's the deal with my copy of Nero Ultra Version 6. - Original Message - From: Doc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:36 AM Subject: Re: Re: Nero burn compilation function unavailable Yes you can use nero to rip audio cd's to mp3. Robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey, this isn't my tagline ! Who put it here ? - Original Message - From: Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 6:22 PM Subject: SPAM: Re: Nero burn compilation function unavailable Hi, am going to start using Nero and had a question. With that program can you save tracts of music on your computer as MP3 or whatever to then send on to others. I mean tracts from CD that then can be sent? I realize that a lot of you are proficient at this but am new at it so appreciate any help and suggestions for settings etc. - Original Message - From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: Re: Nero burn compilation function unavailable Hi Well these itemns are different. one says make audio cd a disk you can play in your traditional stereo. data disk you must use if you want the files to stay in the mp3 format untouched. Best regards Brian - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC-Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 9:49 PM Subject: Nero burn compilation function unavailable Warning. This is going to be a longish post and not written in efficient, point by point form. So anyone whose time is short or who just doesn't enjoy reading anything that wanders a bit, please don't proceed, okay. I don't feel like getting flamed, today. I've got some things on my mind, distracting me, and it would take me an hour to edit and revise this post, and maybe divide it into two separate posts. thanks to anyone who reads it, chuckles a bit at my perplexity,and has any constructive comments to offer about the issues involved, which I'd like to unravel. Today I opened the Nero 6 submenus from the Start Menu/Programs as I always do, then arrowed to Nero Burning ROM and launched it. Previously, using the tabs or pages that come up automatically when you launch Nero Burning ROM (it took me weeks to figure out the joke in the name, cf. Nero Burning Rome (and fiddling all the while, etc.); I'm going to have my IQ checked), I'd copied a couple of CDs and, so far as I remember, burned a couple of compilations (the procedure that one of the other programs calls projects), all from these tabs with their options settings and control buttons. But today I wanted to take another look at my actual menus to see how I'd burn a compilation using the Recorder menu. To my surprise, I discovered that Burn Compilation, which is the first or second item on the menu, said Unavailable. The other functions on the menu were all available, including the Copy function. So I started over and launched Nero Burning ROM to see if I could burn a compilation from those tabs that come up by default. As the interface appeared onscreen, I heard Jaws say unavailable, but then focus was on the first item in a list of burn settings. Ignoring the unavailable notification, I set all the settings, managed to figure out how to locate and list the .mp3 files I wanted to burn to the CD, found the Burn button and proceeded. The recording process went along fine, and gave me an OK button to finish, and then I declined to fool around with saving some kind of files or other to disc so that the procedure was totally finished. And the CD played successfully on both my computer and in the recent vintage (late model)CD changer in my stereo system. Now, this makes it sound as if I accidentally used a CD/RW for the recording, but last night I copied a CD using a blank CD from the same new package (spindle, actually) of Fuji discs, which my sighted friend assured me said CD/R at the store, and the music CD copied fine. I mean it plays on my old Discman-type player, which this burned compilation I'm talking about, won't. All I get is static. So let's assume that Fuji didn't mix CD/R's and CD/RWs together on this spindle, which seems highly unlikely. Is there something I could have done while making the settings in Nero, before finding and pressing the Burn button, that could have produced this effect? The main settings I can remember having chosen are things like write speed 48x, the top available speed in Nero 6, disc at once, and a couple of other standard settings. No, it wasn't recorded on the fly, though even if it had been, and there'd been flaws
Nero burn compilation function unavailable
Warning. This is going to be a longish post and not written in efficient, point by point form. So anyone whose time is short or who just doesn't enjoy reading anything that wanders a bit, please don't proceed, okay. I don't feel like getting flamed, today. I've got some things on my mind, distracting me, and it would take me an hour to edit and revise this post, and maybe divide it into two separate posts. thanks to anyone who reads it, chuckles a bit at my perplexity,and has any constructive comments to offer about the issues involved, which I'd like to unravel. Today I opened the Nero 6 submenus from the Start Menu/Programs as I always do, then arrowed to Nero Burning ROM and launched it. Previously, using the tabs or pages that come up automatically when you launch Nero Burning ROM (it took me weeks to figure out the joke in the name, cf. Nero Burning Rome (and fiddling all the while, etc.); I'm going to have my IQ checked), I'd copied a couple of CDs and, so far as I remember, burned a couple of compilations (the procedure that one of the other programs calls projects), all from these tabs with their options settings and control buttons. But today I wanted to take another look at my actual menus to see how I'd burn a compilation using the Recorder menu. To my surprise, I discovered that Burn Compilation, which is the first or second item on the menu, said Unavailable. The other functions on the menu were all available, including the Copy function. So I started over and launched Nero Burning ROM to see if I could burn a compilation from those tabs that come up by default. As the interface appeared onscreen, I heard Jaws say unavailable, but then focus was on the first item in a list of burn settings. Ignoring the unavailable notification, I set all the settings, managed to figure out how to locate and list the .mp3 files I wanted to burn to the CD, found the Burn button and proceeded. The recording process went along fine, and gave me an OK button to finish, and then I declined to fool around with saving some kind of files or other to disc so that the procedure was totally finished. And the CD played successfully on both my computer and in the recent vintage (late model)CD changer in my stereo system. Now, this makes it sound as if I accidentally used a CD/RW for the recording, but last night I copied a CD using a blank CD from the same new package (spindle, actually) of Fuji discs, which my sighted friend assured me said CD/R at the store, and the music CD copied fine. I mean it plays on my old Discman-type player, which this burned compilation I'm talking about, won't. All I get is static. So let's assume that Fuji didn't mix CD/R's and CD/RWs together on this spindle, which seems highly unlikely. Is there something I could have done while making the settings in Nero, before finding and pressing the Burn button, that could have produced this effect? The main settings I can remember having chosen are things like write speed 48x, the top available speed in Nero 6, disc at once, and a couple of other standard settings. No, it wasn't recorded on the fly, though even if it had been, and there'd been flaws in the original, which there aren't, I don't think total static would have resulted. I know this is a fuzzy story, because it starts with my wondering why the burn compilation function was unavailable yet seemed to work, and then winding up with a bum CD as if I'd mistakenly used a CD/RW. thanks a lot. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.9/23 - Release Date: 6/20/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nero burn compilation function unavailable
What two items? I know the difference between burning a data CD and a music Cd. I'm not sure why you said this. Thanks. difr - Original Message - From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 2:58 PM Subject: Re: Nero burn compilation function unavailable Hi Well these itemns are different. one says make audio cd a disk you can play in your traditional stereo. data disk you must use if you want the files to stay in the mp3 format untouched. Best regards Brian - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC-Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 9:49 PM Subject: Nero burn compilation function unavailable Warning. This is going to be a longish post and not written in efficient, point by point form. So anyone whose time is short or who just doesn't enjoy reading anything that wanders a bit, please don't proceed, okay. I don't feel like getting flamed, today. I've got some things on my mind, distracting me, and it would take me an hour to edit and revise this post, and maybe divide it into two separate posts. thanks to anyone who reads it, chuckles a bit at my perplexity,and has any constructive comments to offer about the issues involved, which I'd like to unravel. Today I opened the Nero 6 submenus from the Start Menu/Programs as I always do, then arrowed to Nero Burning ROM and launched it. Previously, using the tabs or pages that come up automatically when you launch Nero Burning ROM (it took me weeks to figure out the joke in the name, cf. Nero Burning Rome (and fiddling all the while, etc.); I'm going to have my IQ checked), I'd copied a couple of CDs and, so far as I remember, burned a couple of compilations (the procedure that one of the other programs calls projects), all from these tabs with their options settings and control buttons. But today I wanted to take another look at my actual menus to see how I'd burn a compilation using the Recorder menu. To my surprise, I discovered that Burn Compilation, which is the first or second item on the menu, said Unavailable. The other functions on the menu were all available, including the Copy function. So I started over and launched Nero Burning ROM to see if I could burn a compilation from those tabs that come up by default. As the interface appeared onscreen, I heard Jaws say unavailable, but then focus was on the first item in a list of burn settings. Ignoring the unavailable notification, I set all the settings, managed to figure out how to locate and list the .mp3 files I wanted to burn to the CD, found the Burn button and proceeded. The recording process went along fine, and gave me an OK button to finish, and then I declined to fool around with saving some kind of files or other to disc so that the procedure was totally finished. And the CD played successfully on both my computer and in the recent vintage (late model)CD changer in my stereo system. Now, this makes it sound as if I accidentally used a CD/RW for the recording, but last night I copied a CD using a blank CD from the same new package (spindle, actually) of Fuji discs, which my sighted friend assured me said CD/R at the store, and the music CD copied fine. I mean it plays on my old Discman-type player, which this burned compilation I'm talking about, won't. All I get is static. So let's assume that Fuji didn't mix CD/R's and CD/RWs together on this spindle, which seems highly unlikely. Is there something I could have done while making the settings in Nero, before finding and pressing the Burn button, that could have produced this effect? The main settings I can remember having chosen are things like write speed 48x, the top available speed in Nero 6, disc at once, and a couple of other standard settings. No, it wasn't recorded on the fly, though even if it had been, and there'd been flaws in the original, which there aren't, I don't think total static would have resulted. I know this is a fuzzy story, because it starts with my wondering why the burn compilation function was unavailable yet seemed to work, and then winding up with a bum CD as if I'd mistakenly used a CD/RW. thanks a lot. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.9/23 - Release Date: 6/20/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.9/23 - Release Date: 6/20
Re: Nero burn compilation function unavailable
The basic answer to this is that Nero does offer a ripping capability, but only if you purchase that function after trying it out for free thirty times. The more frugal approach might be to download and learn to usethe freeware program CDex, which will allow you to do exactly what you're thinking of. There are people on this list who can give you expert advice on learning to use CDex, which is very popular. Then your main use for a program like nero or others will be for *creating* your own CDs eeither from those tracks you've ripped to .mp3 files, or by copying other CDs. But for what you're describing, CDex would be a good idea. - Original Message - From: Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Nero burn compilation function unavailable Hi, am going to start using Nero and had a question. With that program can you save tracts of music on your computer as MP3 or whatever to then send on to others. I mean tracts from CD that then can be sent? I realize that a lot of you are proficient at this but am new at it so appreciate any help and suggestions for settings etc. - Original Message - From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: Re: Nero burn compilation function unavailable Hi Well these itemns are different. one says make audio cd a disk you can play in your traditional stereo. data disk you must use if you want the files to stay in the mp3 format untouched. Best regards Brian - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC-Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 9:49 PM Subject: Nero burn compilation function unavailable Warning. This is going to be a longish post and not written in efficient, point by point form. So anyone whose time is short or who just doesn't enjoy reading anything that wanders a bit, please don't proceed, okay. I don't feel like getting flamed, today. I've got some things on my mind, distracting me, and it would take me an hour to edit and revise this post, and maybe divide it into two separate posts. thanks to anyone who reads it, chuckles a bit at my perplexity,and has any constructive comments to offer about the issues involved, which I'd like to unravel. Today I opened the Nero 6 submenus from the Start Menu/Programs as I always do, then arrowed to Nero Burning ROM and launched it. Previously, using the tabs or pages that come up automatically when you launch Nero Burning ROM (it took me weeks to figure out the joke in the name, cf. Nero Burning Rome (and fiddling all the while, etc.); I'm going to have my IQ checked), I'd copied a couple of CDs and, so far as I remember, burned a couple of compilations (the procedure that one of the other programs calls projects), all from these tabs with their options settings and control buttons. But today I wanted to take another look at my actual menus to see how I'd burn a compilation using the Recorder menu. To my surprise, I discovered that Burn Compilation, which is the first or second item on the menu, said Unavailable. The other functions on the menu were all available, including the Copy function. So I started over and launched Nero Burning ROM to see if I could burn a compilation from those tabs that come up by default. As the interface appeared onscreen, I heard Jaws say unavailable, but then focus was on the first item in a list of burn settings. Ignoring the unavailable notification, I set all the settings, managed to figure out how to locate and list the .mp3 files I wanted to burn to the CD, found the Burn button and proceeded. The recording process went along fine, and gave me an OK button to finish, and then I declined to fool around with saving some kind of files or other to disc so that the procedure was totally finished. And the CD played successfully on both my computer and in the recent vintage (late model)CD changer in my stereo system. Now, this makes it sound as if I accidentally used a CD/RW for the recording, but last night I copied a CD using a blank CD from the same new package (spindle, actually) of Fuji discs, which my sighted friend assured me said CD/R at the store, and the music CD copied fine. I mean it plays on my old Discman-type player, which this burned compilation I'm talking about, won't. All I get is static. So let's assume that Fuji didn't mix CD/R's and CD/RWs together on this spindle, which seems highly unlikely. Is there something I could have done while making the settings in Nero, before finding and pressing the Burn button, that could have produced this effect? The main settings I can remember having chosen are things like write speed 48x, the top available speed in Nero 6, disc at once
Re: Nero burn compilation function unavailable
Bruce, how's this. Clear enough? I'm really working on my compositional skills. If I ever get out of community college English, maybe I'll grow up to be a published journalist and writer. But that's a long way off. First I have to learn how to write like an end user manual. But I'm working on it, you can tell my old teacher Professor Molson.IA - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:01 PM Subject: Re: Nero burn compilation function unavailable The basic answer to this is that Nero does offer a ripping capability, but only if you purchase that function after trying it out for free thirty times. The more frugal approach might be to download and learn to usethe freeware program CDex, which will allow you to do exactly what you're thinking of. There are people on this list who can give you expert advice on learning to use CDex, which is very popular. Then your main use for a program like nero or others will be for *creating* your own CDs eeither from those tracks you've ripped to .mp3 files, or by copying other CDs. But for what you're describing, CDex would be a good idea. - Original Message - From: Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Nero burn compilation function unavailable Hi, am going to start using Nero and had a question. With that program can you save tracts of music on your computer as MP3 or whatever to then send on to others. I mean tracts from CD that then can be sent? I realize that a lot of you are proficient at this but am new at it so appreciate any help and suggestions for settings etc. - Original Message - From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: Re: Nero burn compilation function unavailable Hi Well these itemns are different. one says make audio cd a disk you can play in your traditional stereo. data disk you must use if you want the files to stay in the mp3 format untouched. Best regards Brian - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC-Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 9:49 PM Subject: Nero burn compilation function unavailable Warning. This is going to be a longish post and not written in efficient, point by point form. So anyone whose time is short or who just doesn't enjoy reading anything that wanders a bit, please don't proceed, okay. I don't feel like getting flamed, today. I've got some things on my mind, distracting me, and it would take me an hour to edit and revise this post, and maybe divide it into two separate posts. thanks to anyone who reads it, chuckles a bit at my perplexity,and has any constructive comments to offer about the issues involved, which I'd like to unravel. Today I opened the Nero 6 submenus from the Start Menu/Programs as I always do, then arrowed to Nero Burning ROM and launched it. Previously, using the tabs or pages that come up automatically when you launch Nero Burning ROM (it took me weeks to figure out the joke in the name, cf. Nero Burning Rome (and fiddling all the while, etc.); I'm going to have my IQ checked), I'd copied a couple of CDs and, so far as I remember, burned a couple of compilations (the procedure that one of the other programs calls projects), all from these tabs with their options settings and control buttons. But today I wanted to take another look at my actual menus to see how I'd burn a compilation using the Recorder menu. To my surprise, I discovered that Burn Compilation, which is the first or second item on the menu, said Unavailable. The other functions on the menu were all available, including the Copy function. So I started over and launched Nero Burning ROM to see if I could burn a compilation from those tabs that come up by default. As the interface appeared onscreen, I heard Jaws say unavailable, but then focus was on the first item in a list of burn settings. Ignoring the unavailable notification, I set all the settings, managed to figure out how to locate and list the .mp3 files I wanted to burn to the CD, found the Burn button and proceeded. The recording process went along fine, and gave me an OK button to finish, and then I declined to fool around with saving some kind of files or other to disc so that the procedure was totally finished. And the CD played successfully on both my computer and in the recent vintage (late model)CD changer in my stereo system. Now, this makes it sound as if I accidentally used a CD/RW for the recording, but last night I copied a CD using a blank CD from the same new package (spindle, actually) of Fuji discs, which my sighted friend assured me said CD/R at the store, and the music CD
Re: 2 CD burner questions
How come you say to reboot? What's the purpose? If it has something to do with not working the CD drive/burner too hard, why not just stop burning CDs for a few minutes or hours or whatever? Am I missing something? I'd love to know how to take bst care of my equipment. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:03 AM Subject: Re: 2 CD burner questions As far as your first question goes, reboot every once in a while. For the second question, most lasers run fairly cool now-a-days, but if you want to know the answer to that question you have to look at the specs for the particular drive. - Original Message - From: stever2525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 7:55 AM Subject: 2 CD burner questions Hi, this is Steve with 2 CD burning questions. First, if I am burning a lot of CDs in a single session, would I need to take a break at some point because of the heat of the burner, and possibly causing errors? Second, is there a ball park figure of the life of a burner which is used fairly regularly? thank you ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configuring CDDB in Nero, was: Re: configuring cddb in cdex 1.51
Kevin, Where do you find a Files menu in Nero? I have version 6, and if I launch Nero Burning ROM discretely, or any of the other program modules, they don't seem to have Windows-style menu lines with File menus. And if I launch Nero Express, it doesn't, either. Where in Version 6 is an interface with a menu line, including a File menu? Thanks. ,t - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 7:06 AM Subject: Configuring CDDB in Nero, was: Re: configuring cddb in cdex 1.51 Hi Don. To configure the CDDB in nero: 1. Press alt + F to open the file menu 2. Down arrow to preferences and press enter. 3. Locate the Database tab. 4. Tab to the use HTTP server checkbox and press spacebar to check it. 5. Tab to the open database when set of checkboxes and check those you wish to use from a choice of copying a CD, saving tracks or adding tracks to a compilation. 6. Tab to OK and press enter to save your settings. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Donald L. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 6:50 PM Subject: configuring cddb in cdex 1.51 Hello, I have never previously needed to use the cddb facility in Cdex 1.51, and I can't figure out how to configure it. Would someone please take me step by step through this process. By the way, I am having a similar problem when attempting to configure cddb in Nero 5.5. So if someone would provide that info, I would also be grateful. Thanks in advance. Don Roberts ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: configuring cddb in cdex 1.51
Hi, What do you mean by calling CDDB grace notes? I play and read music, so that's the spirit in which I'm asking. I know what a grace note is, too. So why do you refer to CDDB as grace notes? Thanks. Always interested to learn new technical expressions. Daniel - Original Message - From: simon.dowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 4:06 AM Subject: Re: configuring cddb in cdex 1.51 hi Donald, in settings you have two cddb pages. 1 is the local cddb page, this is where the names styles and other information is stored usually it resides in my music. the second page is the remote cddb page, if you put a tick in the auto connect to remote cddb box, when you put a cd in, it will search for any artists matching your cd. that's all you really need to do, and it should work with Nero too, although I use roxio myself, and that uses the grace notes cddb. hth - Original Message - From: Donald L. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 6:50 PM Subject: configuring cddb in cdex 1.51 Hello, I have never previously needed to use the cddb facility in Cdex 1.51, and I can't figure out how to configure it. Would someone please take me step by step through this process. By the way, I am having a similar problem when attempting to configure cddb in Nero 5.5. So if someone would provide that info, I would also be grateful. Thanks in advance. Don Roberts ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 1.1145 (20050618) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Definitions requested and need a question answered.
Please forgive the intrusion, but what's the Wizard mentioned here? I have Nero 6, and the only options I'm aware of for using it are either to use the Smart Start interface that isn't Jaws accessible, or, and this is the method I use, just go to the Nero item on the Start/Programs menu, open the submenu, and click on the module you want to use, such as Nero Burning ROM, as opposed to the Backup function or the other one. But if Version 6 has this Wizard thing and it simplifies the procedure for you if you're using a screen reader, I'd love to know about it. Although all controls seem to be pretty well labeled for Jaws, or should I say spoken by Jaws, I get pretty confused trying figure out where I am and on which page or tab is where I'm supposed to click to to begin a burn or a copy. Sometimes, as happened yesterday, I was trying to copy a music CD and it was only after wandering around and around a bunch of tabs and checking settings until I was pleasantly disoriented that I somehow came upon a button to press for Copy. I hadn't even come across it in my several rotations through the tabs for making burn settings and stuff. It's pretty confusing and frustrating this way. So what's up with the Wizard deal? Thanks. posed - Original Message - From: Donald L. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 10:58 AM Subject: Definitions requested and need a question answered. Hello, I have good success burning either audio or data cds using Nero 5.5. Most of the time, I just use the wizard. But now I am thinking of upgrading to Nero 6.6. I understand there is no wizard in 6.6, yet I know that a lot of people really like it. So what are the advantages of this version over 5.5? Also, I would like definitions for the following cd burning terms: 1. Exaclink. 2. Mount Rainier formatting. 3. Under burn. and 4. m r read and write. I know that Mount Rainier formatting has something to do with the incd packet writing software, but I would like to know the specifics. Thanks in advance for responses. Don Roberts ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Definitions requested and need a question answered.
you nmean it's a feature that hasn't been included with Nero for a couple of versions, now? - Original Message - From: Doc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 4:52 PM Subject: Re: Definitions requested and need a question answered. No, version 5x has the wizard. Robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey, this isn't my tagline ! Who put it here ? - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 2:14 PM Subject: Re: Definitions requested and need a question answered. Please forgive the intrusion, but what's the Wizard mentioned here? I have Nero 6, and the only options I'm aware of for using it are either to use the Smart Start interface that isn't Jaws accessible, or, and this is the method I use, just go to the Nero item on the Start/Programs menu, open the submenu, and click on the module you want to use, such as Nero Burning ROM, as opposed to the Backup function or the other one. But if Version 6 has this Wizard thing and it simplifies the procedure for you if you're using a screen reader, I'd love to know about it. Although all controls seem to be pretty well labeled for Jaws, or should I say spoken by Jaws, I get pretty confused trying figure out where I am and on which page or tab is where I'm supposed to click to to begin a burn or a copy. Sometimes, as happened yesterday, I was trying to copy a music CD and it was only after wandering around and around a bunch of tabs and checking settings until I was pleasantly disoriented that I somehow came upon a button to press for Copy. I hadn't even come across it in my several rotations through the tabs for making burn settings and stuff. It's pretty confusing and frustrating this way. So what's up with the Wizard deal? Thanks. posed - Original Message - From: Donald L. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 10:58 AM Subject: Definitions requested and need a question answered. Hello, I have good success burning either audio or data cds using Nero 5.5. Most of the time, I just use the wizard. But now I am thinking of upgrading to Nero 6.6. I understand there is no wizard in 6.6, yet I know that a lot of people really like it. So what are the advantages of this version over 5.5? Also, I would like definitions for the following cd burning terms: 1. Exaclink. 2. Mount Rainier formatting. 3. Under burn. and 4. m r read and write. I know that Mount Rainier formatting has something to do with the incd packet writing software, but I would like to know the specifics. Thanks in advance for responses. Don Roberts ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
I know that. How come you're telling me? - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:29 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please MP3 files are a tenth the size of wav files. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:00 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please ahSo the file compression puts it into the data category, even though it can be listened to, unlike most data. I see. - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:45 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please An MP3 CD is considered a data CD, as opposed to a music CD. Hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I thought that data CDs were silent. Is there a kind of data that has sound output? a - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi Tim. I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project has sounded good. I don't think there were any errors. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Sure you get to choose speed. Most people just take the default speed which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can slow the burn down. Look through all of the options carefully before you start the burn in Nero. I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell you exactly where to look. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written. I think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and the CD drive is capable of, or something like that. Isn't this how it is? I'm sure I'm not understanding something. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower rated cdr's and burn slower. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see that there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there. I understand the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its capacity. But what about the write speed? I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated at a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing myself or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed? Does it particularly matter? If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have to sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded? Why are there so *many* different write speeds? What were they all intended for? 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about? Does anyone understand how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy? Thanks. *ROM - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's. I'm not sure exactly how many of those are left. I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20 U.S. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi, I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name brand is on sale. I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though sometimes
Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
Gary, I'm so sorry if it sounded as if I was snapping at you. I was tired and frustrated about something else last night. But I honestly had become puzzled as to why a couple of people were answering me after I asked just one kind of question with so much basic information about CD/R recording that I hadn't asked anything about. I kept politely saying thanks, I knew that but I'm sure others will appreciate this, etc., but no one seemed to see that I was saying I knew everything but the answer to the particular question that I was asking. I just got annoyed after this kept happening. anyway, as before, I'm sure someone benefited by hearing about all this stuff for the first time, just as I did only some weeks ago on this list, when I was actually asking those questions and receiving instruction. Thanks again, and sorry if I was rude. Daniel - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:03 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I guess I shouldn't have. I just thought I'd mention it, incase you didn't know. Sorry about that. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:46 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I know that. How come you're telling me? - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:29 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please MP3 files are a tenth the size of wav files. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:00 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please ahSo the file compression puts it into the data category, even though it can be listened to, unlike most data. I see. - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:45 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please An MP3 CD is considered a data CD, as opposed to a music CD. Hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I thought that data CDs were silent. Is there a kind of data that has sound output? a - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi Tim. I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project has sounded good. I don't think there were any errors. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Sure you get to choose speed. Most people just take the default speed which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can slow the burn down. Look through all of the options carefully before you start the burn in Nero. I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell you exactly where to look. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written. I think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and the CD drive is capable of, or something like that. Isn't this how it is? I'm sure I'm not understanding something. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower rated cdr's and burn slower. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see that there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there. I understand the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its capacity. But what about the write speed? I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD
Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
Well, then we're all ready to go online or to a brick and morar store, buy our blank CD/Rs and jewel cases, launch our burning program of choice, and lay some good music down on a disc. No harm done, indeed! launch - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:52 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi Daniel. No problem. Everything's fine. There sure has been a lot of discussion about this. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 9:47 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Gary, I'm so sorry if it sounded as if I was snapping at you. I was tired and frustrated about something else last night. But I honestly had become puzzled as to why a couple of people were answering me after I asked just one kind of question with so much basic information about CD/R recording that I hadn't asked anything about. I kept politely saying thanks, I knew that but I'm sure others will appreciate this, etc., but no one seemed to see that I was saying I knew everything but the answer to the particular question that I was asking. I just got annoyed after this kept happening. anyway, as before, I'm sure someone benefited by hearing about all this stuff for the first time, just as I did only some weeks ago on this list, when I was actually asking those questions and receiving instruction. Thanks again, and sorry if I was rude. Daniel - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:03 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I guess I shouldn't have. I just thought I'd mention it, incase you didn't know. Sorry about that. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:46 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I know that. How come you're telling me? - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:29 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please MP3 files are a tenth the size of wav files. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:00 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please ahSo the file compression puts it into the data category, even though it can be listened to, unlike most data. I see. - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:45 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please An MP3 CD is considered a data CD, as opposed to a music CD. Hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I thought that data CDs were silent. Is there a kind of data that has sound output? a - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi Tim. I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project has sounded good. I don't think there were any errors. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Sure you get to choose speed. Most people just take the default speed which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can slow the burn down. Look through all of the options carefully before you start the burn in Nero. I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell you exactly where to look. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written. I think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and the CD drive is capable of, or something like that. Isn't this how it is? I'm sure I'm not understanding something. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005
Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
I thought that data CDs were silent. Is there a kind of data that has sound output? a - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi Tim. I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project has sounded good. I don't think there were any errors. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Sure you get to choose speed. Most people just take the default speed which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can slow the burn down. Look through all of the options carefully before you start the burn in Nero. I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell you exactly where to look. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written. I think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and the CD drive is capable of, or something like that. Isn't this how it is? I'm sure I'm not understanding something. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower rated cdr's and burn slower. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see that there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there. I understand the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its capacity. But what about the write speed? I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated at a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing myself or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed? Does it particularly matter? If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have to sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded? Why are there so *many* different write speeds? What were they all intended for? 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about? Does anyone understand how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy? Thanks. *ROM - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's. I'm not sure exactly how many of those are left. I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20 U.S. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi, I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name brand is on sale. I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap. I have found that so-called music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's, though they generally cost a bit more. Money for r i a a, I suppose. Hope this helps. Rusty At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:- I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. While learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend. Now I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to hear recommendations. I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are a lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without jewel boxes. It's a bit overwhelming. I just want to find something like a 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and durability. Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most people I I know use for CDs they make themselves. Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC. I'm under the impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows
Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
Ah, okay. I've been learning to use Nero, and only knew their terminology. Wouldn't it be interesting if all these programs referred to things by the same terms? Too much to ask, I guess. :-) - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 12:18 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Yeah just to clarify, Nero refers to your CD as a compilation, and Easy CD Creator calls it a project. Same exact thing though. ,At 01:28 AM 6/15/2005, you wrote: I mean a CD burning project. Sorry if I wasn't more clear about that. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Which project is done? I'm not sure what you mean. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:23 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please project done. I've heard that for audio CD's, it's best to use the slower speeds, but it doesn't make as much of a difference with burning data CD's. Hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see that there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there. I understand the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its capacity. But what about the write speed? I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated at a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing myself or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed? Does it particularly matter? If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have to sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded? Why are there so *many* different write speeds? What were they all intended for? 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about? Does anyone understand how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy? Thanks. *ROM - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's. I'm not sure exactly how many of those are left. I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20 U.S. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi, I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name brand is on sale. I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap. I have found that so-called music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's, though they generally cost a bit more. Money for r i a a, I suppose. Hope this helps. Rusty At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:- I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. While learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend. Now I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to hear recommendations. I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are a lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without jewel boxes. It's a bit overwhelming. I just want to find something like a 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and durability. Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most people I I know use for CDs they make themselves. Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC. I'm under the impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently, please say. thanks a lot. Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive] Daniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be happy. Talk happiness. Happiness calls out responsive gladness in others. There is enough sadness in the world without yours. (Helen Keller) Check out my web site at: http://www.thesoundzone.com
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ahSo the file compression puts it into the data category, even though it can be listened to, unlike most data. I see. - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:45 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please An MP3 CD is considered a data CD, as opposed to a music CD. Hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I thought that data CDs were silent. Is there a kind of data that has sound output? a - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi Tim. I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project has sounded good. I don't think there were any errors. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Sure you get to choose speed. Most people just take the default speed which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can slow the burn down. Look through all of the options carefully before you start the burn in Nero. I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell you exactly where to look. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written. I think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and the CD drive is capable of, or something like that. Isn't this how it is? I'm sure I'm not understanding something. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower rated cdr's and burn slower. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see that there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there. I understand the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its capacity. But what about the write speed? I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated at a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing myself or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed? Does it particularly matter? If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have to sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded? Why are there so *many* different write speeds? What were they all intended for? 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about? Does anyone understand how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy? Thanks. *ROM - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's. I'm not sure exactly how many of those are left. I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20 U.S. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi, I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name brand is on sale. I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap. I have found that so-called music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's, though they generally cost a bit more. Money for r i a a, I suppose. Hope this helps. Rusty At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:- I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. While learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend. Now I'd like to get myself
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Hi Christohpher, Let me reassure you that I know what you're talking about below, and that I of course understand that anything encoded on a CD, compressed or not, is literally data. I was just talking about the specific language being used at the moment to distinguish conventional music CDs from others. Sorry if I gave you the impression that I was so confused. Everything's fine, and thanks for the explanations. Danny - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:04 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Actually if you really stop and think about it, an audio cd is data too. It's not like Vinyl where a needle is used, cd's are read by a laser which decodes the data into sound. an mp3 is just like this but just compress into a different way. But we're drifting into a completely different realm of discussion. Basically to make this whole thread a lot easier for everyone to understand, most of the big name brand cdr discsfrom Maxel and other big names are good. I would say to buy the largest capacity possible, which at this point is 750 mb, or 80 minutes of audio content, if you're burning an audio cd. If you're burning data such as mp3s or other stuff, you have 750 mb to work with which is quite a little bit. I'm sure over time the capacity will grow, but for now this is the max. Also, you're going to want to use CDR discs, which are write once only discs, as opposed to CDRW discs which are re-writable again and again. The reason for this is because most audio cd players and portable units aren't able to read them because of the way they're made. But CDR discs are easier read by cd players which aren't on computers, so for the best availability, I would go with cdr discs. They're not very expensive and while you can only use them once, you'll find them to be quite good. Remember though, once it's written, it's written for good. so make sure you have absolutely everything you want on the disc before burning. It is possible to create what is called a multi-session disc which is where you can add more stuff to it, but I've seen lots of cases where the new data isn't able to be read quite as well. So it's best to get all the stuff you want on a disc all in one go. i hope i've answered all the questions in one post here. At 11:45 AM 6/15/2005, you wrote: An MP3 CD is considered a data CD, as opposed to a music CD. Hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I thought that data CDs were silent. Is there a kind of data that has sound output? a - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi Tim. I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project has sounded good. I don't think there were any errors. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Sure you get to choose speed. Most people just take the default speed which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you can slow the burn down. Look through all of the options carefully before you start the burn in Nero. I haven't burned a cd in a while or I could tell you exactly where to look. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written. I think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and the CD drive is capable of, or something like that. Isn't this how it is? I'm sure I'm not understanding something. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower rated cdr's and burn slower. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see that there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there. I
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Chris, I was teasing you. I figured you use Chris in the spirit of independence and manhood, and that only Mom, when angry, uses the full name. I once explained something like this about the opposite-- guys like me in my generation deliberately began to use our full names when we left home and grew up, because we didn't want to be the nicknamed kids of our childhood anymore. I know it seems like the opposite, Chris, but in a way it's the same thing. So when I sign myself as Daniel, I'm not being formal or something. It's really what my friends call me. Dan would bbe a totally different kind of guy. Anyway, as I said, I was clear about all that stuff. But the upside of your being generous with these important basic things (like, use a CD/R, not a CD/RW, if you want no trouble playing a CD you burn, is stuff everyone needs to know, and you're getting it out there. That's what it's all about. sharing knowledge. Daniel - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:39 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please heheh, hey, that's cool. but let's keep it to Chris ok? The only one allowed to call me Christopher is my mom, and that's only when I'm in trouble. hehehe. Glad you understand everything a little better. Glad I could help. At 12:14 PM 6/15/2005, you wrote: Hi Christohpher, Let me reassure you that I know what you're talking about below, and that I of course understand that anything encoded on a CD, compressed or not, is literally data. I was just talking about the specific language being used at the moment to distinguish conventional music CDs from others. Sorry if I gave you the impression that I was so confused. Everything's fine, and thanks for the explanations. Danny - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:04 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Actually if you really stop and think about it, an audio cd is data too. It's not like Vinyl where a needle is used, cd's are read by a laser which decodes the data into sound. an mp3 is just like this but just compress into a different way. But we're drifting into a completely different realm of discussion. Basically to make this whole thread a lot easier for everyone to understand, most of the big name brand cdr discsfrom Maxel and other big names are good. I would say to buy the largest capacity possible, which at this point is 750 mb, or 80 minutes of audio content, if you're burning an audio cd. If you're burning data such as mp3s or other stuff, you have 750 mb to work with which is quite a little bit. I'm sure over time the capacity will grow, but for now this is the max. Also, you're going to want to use CDR discs, which are write once only discs, as opposed to CDRW discs which are re-writable again and again. The reason for this is because most audio cd players and portable units aren't able to read them because of the way they're made. But CDR discs are easier read by cd players which aren't on computers, so for the best availability, I would go with cdr discs. They're not very expensive and while you can only use them once, you'll find them to be quite good. Remember though, once it's written, it's written for good. so make sure you have absolutely everything you want on the disc before burning. It is possible to create what is called a multi-session disc which is where you can add more stuff to it, but I've seen lots of cases where the new data isn't able to be read quite as well. So it's best to get all the stuff you want on a disc all in one go. i hope i've answered all the questions in one post here. At 11:45 AM 6/15/2005, you wrote: An MP3 CD is considered a data CD, as opposed to a music CD. Hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:44 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I thought that data CDs were silent. Is there a kind of data that has sound output? a - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:31 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi Tim. I use the fastest speed, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my projects, because everything I've burned with Nero in a data CD project has sounded good. I don't think there were any errors. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:40 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Sure you get to choose speed. Most people just take the default speed which would be as fast as your burner and media can go, but you
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I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see that there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there. I understand the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its capacity. But what about the write speed? I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated at a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing myself or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed? Does it particularly matter? If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have to sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded? Why are there so *many* different write speeds? What were they all intended for? 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about? Does anyone understand how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy? Thanks. *ROM - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's. I'm not sure exactly how many of those are left. I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20 U.S. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi, I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name brand is on sale. I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap. I have found that so-called music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's, though they generally cost a bit more. Money for r i a a, I suppose. Hope this helps. Rusty At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:- I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. While learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend. Now I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to hear recommendations. I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are a lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without jewel boxes. It's a bit overwhelming. I just want to find something like a 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and durability. Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most people I I know use for CDs they make themselves. Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC. I'm under the impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently, please say. thanks a lot. Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive] Daniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be happy. Talk happiness. Happiness calls out responsive gladness in others. There is enough sadness in the world without yours. (Helen Keller) Check out my web site at: http://www.thesoundzone.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written. I think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and the CD drive is capable of, or something like that. Isn't this how it is? I'm sure I'm not understanding something. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower rated cdr's and burn slower. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see that there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there. I understand the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its capacity. But what about the write speed? I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated at a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing myself or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed? Does it particularly matter? If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have to sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded? Why are there so *many* different write speeds? What were they all intended for? 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about? Does anyone understand how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy? Thanks. *ROM - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's. I'm not sure exactly how many of those are left. I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20 U.S. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi, I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name brand is on sale. I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap. I have found that so-called music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's, though they generally cost a bit more. Money for r i a a, I suppose. Hope this helps. Rusty At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:- I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. While learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend. Now I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to hear recommendations. I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are a lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without jewel boxes. It's a bit overwhelming. I just want to find something like a 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and durability. Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most people I I know use for CDs they make themselves. Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC. I'm under the impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently, please say. thanks a lot. Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive] Daniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be happy. Talk happiness. Happiness calls out responsive gladness in others. There is enough sadness in the world without yours. (Helen Keller) Check out my web site at: http://www.thesoundzone.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6
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What do you mean by a new CD? s - Original Message - From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:58 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Daniel! I was thinking of a new CD. The business side is flush with the jewel case, the label side is showing. All the CDs I have ever seen have the ridge and it is on the business side. The other side may have a ridge also but it is nowhere as pronounced as the one on the business side. The ridge edge could be curved or square. Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! New DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.0: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal Visa, Mastercard, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Oh. I must look carefully at the settings and preferences. If I can find them. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:58 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I don't know about Nero, but with Easy CD Creater, you can choose the write speed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/14/2005 8:52:01 AM But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written. I think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and the CD drive is capable of, or something like that. Isn't this how it is? I'm sure I'm not understanding something. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower rated cdr's and burn slower. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see that there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there. I understand the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its capacity. But what about the write speed? I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated at a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing myself or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed? Does it particularly matter? If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have to sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded? Why are there so *many* different write speeds? What were they all intended for? 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about? Does anyone understand how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy? Thanks. *ROM - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's. I'm not sure exactly how many of those are left. I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20 U.S. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi, I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name brand is on sale. I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap. I have found that so-called music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's, though they generally cost a bit more. Money for r i a a, I suppose. Hope this helps. Rusty At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:- I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. While learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend. Now I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to hear recommendations. I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are a lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without jewel boxes. It's a bit overwhelming. I just want to find something like a 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and durability. Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most people I I know use for CDs they make themselves. Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC. I'm under the impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently, please say. thanks a lot. Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive] Daniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be happy. Talk happiness. Happiness calls out responsive gladness in others. There is enough sadness in the world without yours. (Helen Keller) Check out my web site at: http://www.thesoundzone.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from
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Chris, I'm asking for informed explanations to reasonable questions. If that isn't to your taste, fine. But I'm not having a problem Just seeking information. Thanks for understanding. - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 7:48 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I would say if you're doing something and it works for you, keep doing it. Try not to over-think this. At 09:15 AM 6/14/2005, you wrote: Let's see. So you're saying that recording at 1x is a one-to-one ratio, same as straight cassette recording (not duping at double speed). So if the maximum speed of most new drives is 52x, is there some agreed-upon slower write speed that is considered just slow enough to be more prudent? The smart person uses 32x discs, or 48x discs, or something? Just looking for some idea of how people approach this. Or, if you just record at maximum speed, as I've done a number of times by now, with no perceptible glitches in the resulting music, then it's okay, and ought to generally be okay? it all sounds kind of abstract to me, so far... Thanks. - Original Message - From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:57 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please You are, in some part, witnessing the advance of technology. Originally, cd writers couldn't burn at great speed. As burners developed higher abilities, media manufacturers developed media to keep up. However, there were all those older burners out there that couldn't take advantage of the higher speeds. So you wind up with a highly segmented marketplace trying to serve lots of differing needs. You can always burn at a slower speed than the maximum of your burner so long as the medium will support that speed. In fact, I think lots of folks might recommend burning, particularly music, at less than the higher speed to avoid errors. Given a 1x burn speed you won't spend more than 80 minutes waiting for your project to be done, but you can improve on that with your combination of burning write speed and cd speed capacity. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/14/2005 1:19:13 AM I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see that there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there. I understand the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its capacity. But what about the write speed? I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated at a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing myself or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed? Does it particularly matter? If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have to sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded? Why are there so *many* different write speeds? What were they all intended for? 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about? Does anyone understand how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy? Thanks. *ROM - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's. I'm not sure exactly how many of those are left. I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20 U.S. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi, I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name brand is on sale. I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap. I have found that so-called music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's, though they generally cost a bit more. Money for r i a a, I suppose. Hope this helps. Rusty At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:- I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. While learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend. Now I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to hear recommendations. I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are a lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without jewel boxes. It's a bit overwhelming. I just want to find something like a 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and durability. Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most people I I know use for CDs they make themselves. Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC. I'm
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I see. Well, I still have more exploring of the Nero interface to do. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 7:42 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Actually you can choose what speed the cd burns in Nero. You do this when you actually burn the cd. It's in the options. when in doubt, check the options because the setting you want is probably there. as for maximum burning speed, you'll just have to experiment a bit. The default setting is usually best though. At 08:52 AM 6/14/2005, you wrote: But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written. I think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and the CD drive is capable of, or something like that. Isn't this how it is? I'm sure I'm not understanding something. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower rated cdr's and burn slower. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see that there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there. I understand the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its capacity. But what about the write speed? I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated at a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing myself or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed? Does it particularly matter? If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have to sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded? Why are there so *many* different write speeds? What were they all intended for? 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about? Does anyone understand how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy? Thanks. *ROM - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's. I'm not sure exactly how many of those are left. I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20 U.S. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi, I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name brand is on sale. I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap. I have found that so-called music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's, though they generally cost a bit more. Money for r i a a, I suppose. Hope this helps. Rusty At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:- I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. While learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend. Now I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to hear recommendations. I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are a lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without jewel boxes. It's a bit overwhelming. I just want to find something like a 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and durability. Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most people I I know use for CDs they make themselves. Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC. I'm under the impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently, please say. thanks a lot. Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive] Daniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED
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I guess you don't see why I asked? The man said new CDs have this ridge. if you think that's a silly question, fine. But it still doesn't make sense to me. If it does to you, then explain why a blank CD I'm just taking out of its pack should have a ridge, but one that I've already used would not have a ridge, because it isn't new any more? Or does new bmean manufactured after a certain date, when the ridge was addedas an industry standard? Or..?honestly. I'm just asking for clarification so I can understand this feature and make use of it as a tactile guide. - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 7:44 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please A new cd is one that's never been used. that's usually how it goes? At 08:54 AM 6/14/2005, you wrote: What do you mean by a new CD? s - Original Message - From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:58 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Daniel! I was thinking of a new CD. The business side is flush with the jewel case, the label side is showing. All the CDs I have ever seen have the ridge and it is on the business side. The other side may have a ridge also but it is nowhere as pronounced as the one on the business side. The ridge edge could be curved or square. Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! New DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.0: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal Visa, Mastercard, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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As the subject line says, it's CD/Rs that I'm asking about, not CD/RWs. I wouldn't want to confuse the two if there happened to be some difference in the way things worked depending on which was being used. Thank you. From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 7:47 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please With CDRWIn, you can choose the write speed, or you can have the program choose the maximum speed the media and writer will support and use that. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Clifford Blackwell wrote: I don't know about Nero, but with Easy CD Creater, you can choose the write speed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/14/2005 8:52:01 AM But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written. I think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and the CD drive is capable of, or something like that. Isn't this how it is? I'm sure I'm not understanding something. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower rated cdr's and burn slower. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see that there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there. I understand the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its capacity. But what about the write speed? I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated at a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing myself or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed? Does it particularly matter? If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have to sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded? Why are there so *many* different write speeds? What were they all intended for? 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about? Does anyone understand how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy? Thanks. *ROM - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's. I'm not sure exactly how many of those are left. I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20 U.S. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi, I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name brand is on sale. I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap. I have found that so-called music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's, though they generally cost a bit more. Money for r i a a, I suppose. Hope this helps. Rusty At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:- I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. While learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend. Now I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to hear recommendations. I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are a lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without jewel boxes. It's a bit overwhelming. I just want to find something like a 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and durability. Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most people I I know use for CDs they make themselves. Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC. I'm under the impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently, please say. thanks a lot. Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive] Daniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database
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Thanks. I've got Nero v. 6, which may or may not have the same options in this regard. I'll check. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:16 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi, In nero 6.6 you get to choose the burning speed. One of the options is default, I think, but I know you can choose to burn slower than the default for the disc media. Rusty But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written. I think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and the CD drive is capable of, or something like that. Isn't this how it is? I'm sure I'm not understanding something. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower rated cdr's and burn slower. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see that there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there. I understand the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its capacity. But what about the write speed? I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated at a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing myself or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed? Does it particularly matter? If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have to sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded? Why are there so *many* different write speeds? What were they all intended for? 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about? Does anyone understand how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy? Thanks. *ROM - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's. I'm not sure exactly how many of those are left. I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20 U.S. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi, I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name brand is on sale. I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap. I have found that so-called music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's, though they generally cost a bit more. Money for r i a a, I suppose. Hope this helps. Rusty At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:- I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. While learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend. Now I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to hear recommendations. I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are a lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without jewel boxes. It's a bit overwhelming. I just want to find something like a 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and durability. Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most people I I know use for CDs they make themselves. Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC. I'm under the impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently, please say. thanks a lot. Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive] Daniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be happy. Talk happiness. Happiness calls out responsive gladness in others. There is enough sadness in the world without yours. (Helen
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Gary, you mean that you prefer to always record your CDs at the 1x speed? If so, why? thanks. - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:31 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please There's a place in Nero where you can control the write speed. There's a menu that I see. My fastest speed is 48X, so I arrow down to the others until I get down to 1X. Hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:52 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please But from what I understand about a program like Nero or the others I've tried, you don't get to choose the speed at which your CD gets written. I think it's just done at whatever speed the burn program defaults to and the CD drive is capable of, or something like that. Isn't this how it is? I'm sure I'm not understanding something. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:01 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower rated cdr's and burn slower. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see that there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there. I understand the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its capacity. But what about the write speed? I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated at a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing myself or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed? Does it particularly matter? If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have to sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded? Why are there so *many* different write speeds? What were they all intended for? 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about? Does anyone understand how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy? Thanks. *ROM - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's. I'm not sure exactly how many of those are left. I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20 U.S. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi, I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name brand is on sale. I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap. I have found that so-called music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's, though they generally cost a bit more. Money for r i a a, I suppose. Hope this helps. Rusty At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:- I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. While learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend. Now I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to hear recommendations. I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are a lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without jewel boxes. It's a bit overwhelming. I just want to find something like a 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and durability. Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most people I I know use for CDs they make themselves. Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC. I'm under the impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently, please say. thanks a lot. Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive] Daniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be happy. Talk happiness. Happiness calls out
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ah. I see. Got it. thanks. - Original Message - From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:54 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please The ridge has been there and remains whether the disk has been used or not. I think the reference to new was directed at how a cd sits in a jewel case. An unopened or unused cd sits in the jewel case on a small spindle with the business side or ridged side down. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/14/2005 10:04:24 AM I guess you don't see why I asked? The man said new CDs have this ridge. if you think that's a silly question, fine. But it still doesn't make sense to me. If it does to you, then explain why a blank CD I'm just taking out of its pack should have a ridge, but one that I've already used would not have a ridge, because it isn't new any more? Or does new bmean manufactured after a certain date, when the ridge was addedas an industry standard? Or..?honestly. I'm just asking for clarification so I can understand this feature and make use of it as a tactile guide. - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 7:44 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please A new cd is one that's never been used. that's usually how it goes? At 08:54 AM 6/14/2005, you wrote: What do you mean by a new CD? s - Original Message - From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:58 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Daniel! I was thinking of a new CD. The business side is flush with the jewel case, the label side is showing. All the CDs I have ever seen have the ridge and it is on the business side. The other side may have a ridge also but it is nowhere as pronounced as the one on the business side. The ridge edge could be curved or square. Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! New DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.0: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal Visa, Mastercard, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more...
Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
Hi, could you please explain what you mean? Are you saying, you used a blank CD that was rated for 16x and recorded it at a burn setting of 40x, and that turned out all right. But then you tried recording a 16x blank CD at 48x, and that didn't work in some way? If I have it backward, please correct me so that I can understand what you're describing. Thanks. to record - Original Message - From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:49 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I've tried 16 rated at 24 and done ok, but 16 at 40 blew up fairly often. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 5:01 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower rated cdr's and burn slower. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see that there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there. I understand the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its capacity. But what about the write speed? I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated at a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing myself or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed? Does it particularly matter? If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have to sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded? Why are there so *many* different write speeds? What were they all intended for? 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about? Does anyone understand how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy? Thanks. *ROM - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's. I'm not sure exactly how many of those are left. I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20 U.S. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi, I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name brand is on sale. I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap. I have found that so-called music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's, though they generally cost a bit more. Money for r i a a, I suppose. Hope this helps. Rusty At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:- I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. While learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend. Now I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to hear recommendations. I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are a lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without jewel boxes. It's a bit overwhelming. I just want to find something like a 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and durability. Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most people I I know use for CDs they make themselves. Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC. I'm under the impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently, please say. thanks a lot. Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive] Daniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be happy. Talk happiness. Happiness calls out responsive gladness in others. There is enough sadness in the world without yours. (Helen Keller) Check out my web site at: http://www.thesoundzone.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED
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Well, I give up. The truth is, I have a pretty new computer with a drive that I think is rated at 52x, and the first CDs a friend gave me to start learning to burn were 52x as well, and everything worked fine. I wasn't thinking about this stuff until I began to look online for blank CDs and saw that there are all these different ratings for them. - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 1:01 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I think you have it backwards. Most of the cdr discs out today are rated for at least 16 x speed and up. But some of them are only able to go up to a certain burn speed so if you try to record with 2 fast of a speed for them, it doesn't work. It sounds to me like you've burned a few discs before and you have a setting that works for you. So, stick to what works best and keep it easy for yourself. At 01:47 PM 6/14/2005, you wrote: Hi, could you please explain what you mean? Are you saying, you used a blank CD that was rated for 16x and recorded it at a burn setting of 40x, and that turned out all right. But then you tried recording a 16x blank CD at 48x, and that didn't work in some way? If I have it backward, please correct me so that I can understand what you're describing. Thanks. to record - Original Message - From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:49 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I've tried 16 rated at 24 and done ok, but 16 at 40 blew up fairly often. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 5:01 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please If you want to burn a cd at 52x and your burner is rated at 52x than you need 52x rated cdr's although there is no reason you couldn't buy slower rated cdr's and burn slower. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:19 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I've been cruising sites like amazon.com, best buy and others, and see that there's an enormous variety of blank cd/r products out there. I understand the importance of most of the specifications of a CD, such as its capacity. But what about the write speed? I'm pretty sure my CD/DVD drive is rated at a maximum wwrite speed of 52x, but does this mean I'm short-changing myself or inconveniencing myself in some way (or even burdening my system or burning program in some way) if I don't get discs of the fastest speed? Does it particularly matter? If I don't use 52x, is it as if I'll have to sit there all day waiting for one CD to finish being recorded? Why are there so *many* different write speeds? What were they all intended for? 1x, 4x, 16x, 32x, 48x, 52x-- what's all this about? Does anyone understand how there came to be so many types at this point, and what's best to buy? Thanks. *ROM - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:52 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please I think I got a spindle of 50 CD's. I'm not sure exactly how many of those are left. I guess you can probably get around 50 for between $10 and $20 U.S. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi, I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name brand is on sale. I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap. I have found that so-called music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's, though they generally cost a bit more. Money for r i a a, I suppose. Hope this helps. Rusty At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:- I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. While learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend. Now I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to hear recommendations. I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are a lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without jewel boxes. It's a bit overwhelming. I just want to find something like a 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and durability. Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most people I I
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Sorry, but I don't know what RIA stands for. Please explain. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:28 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please cost is for the RIA. It has nothing to do with quality. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi, I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name brand is on sale. I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap. I have found that so-called music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's, though they generally cost a bit more. Money for r i a a, I suppose. Hope this helps. Rusty At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:- I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. While learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend. Now I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to hear recommendations. I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are a lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without jewel boxes. It's a bit overwhelming. I just want to find something like a 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and durability. Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most people I I know use for CDs they make themselves. Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC. I'm under the impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently, please say. thanks a lot. Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive] Daniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be happy. Talk happiness. Happiness calls out responsive gladness in others. There is enough sadness in the world without yours. (Helen Keller) Check out my web site at: http://www.thesoundzone.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
Thanks to everyone who's responding to this question of mine. Please understand that I didn't think I needed to buy a type of CD that was advertised as being for music specifically. I had done some basic homework in order to understand disc capacity and write speed, and really just wanted to hear people's brand preferences, if any. Not surprised that a number of brands, some of them long familiar as makers of audiotape (such as Maxell, TDK, etc.) as well as some products whose names I'd never heard (Ination, for example) were all good. I just didn't know if there were some really inferior things out there, as once was the case with blank audiocassette tape. Again, thanks to all, and waiting to hear what RIA means and what it has to do with stand-alone CD recording devices. Daniel just wanted to - Original Message - From: Jed Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:46 AM Subject: RE: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Just use any generic CDs, and they'll work just fine. No reason by buy music only CDs. Thanks, Jed -Original Message- From: Tim Grady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 12:29 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please You only need to buy those if you have a stand alone recorder. The extra cost is for the RIA. It has nothing to do with quality. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi, I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name brand is on sale. I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap. I have found that so-called music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's, though they generally cost a bit more. Money for r i a a, I suppose. Hope this helps. Rusty At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:- I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. While learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend. Now I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to hear recommendations. I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are a lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without jewel boxes. It's a bit overwhelming. I just want to find something like a 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and durability. Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most people I I know use for CDs they make themselves. Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC. I'm under the impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently, please say. thanks a lot. Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive] Daniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be happy. Talk happiness. Happiness calls out responsive gladness in others. There is enough sadness in the world without yours. (Helen Keller) Check out my web site at: http://www.thesoundzone.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
Ah. I knew what RIA stood for, but without the explanation didn't assume that the initials necessarily referred to it in this context. Now I see. So to speak. - Original Message - From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:59 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please RIAA is the Recording Industry Association of America. They are the guardians of copywrite. The extra cost of music cd's for stand alone recorders goes to RIAA for anticipated copywrite payments. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/13/2005 11:40:56 AM Sorry, but I don't know what RIA stands for. Please explain. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:28 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please cost is for the RIA. It has nothing to do with quality. - Original Message - From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Hi, I just go to Walmart and buy memorex or max l or whatever name brand is on sale. I buy them in a spindle of fifty, generally, though sometimes a spindle of 100 is really cheap. I have found that so-called music cd's are no better than straight write once read many type cd's, though they generally cost a bit more. Money for r i a a, I suppose. Hope this helps. Rusty At 12:27 AM 6/13/2005, Yardbird spake thusly:- I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. While learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend. Now I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to hear recommendations. I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are a lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without jewel boxes. It's a bit overwhelming. I just want to find something like a 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and durability. Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most people I I know use for CDs they make themselves. Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC. I'm under the impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently, please say. thanks a lot. Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive] Daniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be happy. Talk happiness. Happiness calls out responsive gladness in others. There is enough sadness in the world without yours. (Helen Keller) Check out my web site at: http://www.thesoundzone.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
So you mean the ridge is on the recording side, and the label side is smooth at that same point? - Original Message - From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:01 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please For most cd's, there is a slightly raised ring around the center hole about an inch or less from the center. The side with that ridge goes down. In any case, one should be careful not to get fingerprints or to smudge the surface of the disk. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/13/2005 11:30:12 AM While we are on that thread, how can you tell which is the correct side to put the CD in to the drive so you know that you're recording. I am VERY new at this too. Or is there a smooth side and a rough side on the CD? Forgive me if this a dumb question but I'd like to save myself a little trouble. Thanks for your help. Paul - Original Message - From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 7:29 AM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please Daniel, I think most main stream brands should work well. You don't necessarily have to buy those formulated especially for music. Any old data cd will work if you're creating from the computer.. I've used, TDK, Memorex, Fuji, Imation, Sony and many others. You may want to decide if you want a spindle (without jewle cases) or a stack with jewel cases, either thin or regular. If you get a spindle, be aware that often the first and last disk are often a clear plastic one for protection of the disks and does not record. It can freak one out. The next question will be, how to do cd covers or track listings? If you get any good tips, let us all know. I haven't found a program with which I am comfortable yet. Clifford [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/12/2005 11:27:37 PM I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. While learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend. Now I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to hear recommendations. I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are a lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without jewel boxes. It's a bit overwhelming. I just want to find something like a 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and durability. Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most people I I know use for CDs they make themselves. Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC. I'm under the impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently, please say. thanks a lot. Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive] Daniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please
I don't know if this message was in response to me, particularly, but I just wanted to say that how a CD sits in a jewel box depends on how someone sticks it in there, except when you buy a new music CD and open it for the first time, where of course the recorded side is down and the label side is up. I was hoping to add the textural distinction to my low vision method of holding the disc under a light and distinguishing the matte-finish side (or label side, in the case of a commercial CD) from the shiny side, which is the encoded side. But you're saying that not all CDs have a bit of a ridge on the encoding side? I guess that's not necessarily going to help me do it without my eyes, then. If I'm wrong, please explain. But it sounds as if you're saying a CD doesn't necessarily have that ridge, only sometimes. Daniel - Original Message - From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:27 PM Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please The business side of a CD is the side that is flush with the jewel case. If you hold the CD in your hand by the edge then with the index finger of the other hand you reach to the center of the disk and drag your finger slowly towards the edge about an inch an a half or so from the center you may or may not encounter a smooth or sharp ridge. If you feel this ridge then this is the business side. Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! New DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.0: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal Visa, Mastercard, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Blank CD/R recommendations, please
I've begun creating CDs for friends by both copying my own music CDS and also by creating compilations from music files on my hard drive. While learning, I've used a few blank CD/Rs graciously donated by a friend. Now I'd like to get myself a modest supply to keep on hand, and I'd love to hear recommendations. I just did a search on Amazon and realize that there are a lot of brands to choose from, in different quantities, with or without jewel boxes. It's a bit overwhelming. I just want to find something like a 25-pack of good quality discs that I can depend on for quality and durability. Also, I'd like to know where to find those slim-line jewel boxes that most people I I know use for CDs they make themselves. Here's the model of the CD-ROM drive/recorder in my Dell PC. I'm under the impression that the write speed is 52x, but if anyone knows differently, please say. thanks a lot. Here's my recorder model, courtesy of Belarc Advisor: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F [CD-ROM drive] Daniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6
I think what he means is what I was talking about, that you have to tab pretty blindly around trying to figure out where you are and what page or program element is related to what other one. I agree that this isn't literally an accessibility issue, because I think of accessibility in the strict sense as just having to do with whether enough controls are labeled so that Jaws can speak them. But ultimately, if you have to teach yourself to use a program by blundering around in the dark with the tab key and guessing a lot about where you are, then it's finally not all that accessible, labels or no labels. It's very nice, a great relief, when someone either writes scripts or documents hotkey operation with instructions, as is given on the jfw lite helpful hints page for some programs. In any case, it's nothing to quibble over. But what is the term lates NB, and what were you meaning to say in that sentence? Thanks very much, Daniel isn't a n ameis ,- Original Message - From: Steve Matzura [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 4:18 AM Subject: Re: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6 On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 02:37:51 -0400, you wrote: Well I still have Nero 5.5, so I only know that someone said that it's the most accessible version of Nero. Mine seems pretty accessible, but I do have to do a lot of tabbing around. Tabbing around and accessibility are not related. You must not be using Windows 2000 or XP yet, I think they require the lates NB, V6.6 or something like that. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.7 - Release Date: 6/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.7 - Release Date: 6/10/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6
Oh. Okay. Well, I have version 6, and it's fine, too. I don't know what criteria the person may have based their comment on, though. Maybe it's even better in some as yet unspecified way. if so, I'd love to hear about it. - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 2:40 PM Subject: Re: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6 I guess what I was meaning to say, is that I have Nero 5.5. Someone on the list said that Nero 6.6 was the most screenreader accessible. At least that's what I thought I heard someone say. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 9:55 AM Subject: Re: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6 I think what he means is what I was talking about, that you have to tab pretty blindly around trying to figure out where you are and what page or program element is related to what other one. I agree that this isn't literally an accessibility issue, because I think of accessibility in the strict sense as just having to do with whether enough controls are labeled so that Jaws can speak them. But ultimately, if you have to teach yourself to use a program by blundering around in the dark with the tab key and guessing a lot about where you are, then it's finally not all that accessible, labels or no labels. It's very nice, a great relief, when someone either writes scripts or documents hotkey operation with instructions, as is given on the jfw lite helpful hints page for some programs. In any case, it's nothing to quibble over. But what is the term lates NB, and what were you meaning to say in that sentence? Thanks very much, Daniel isn't a n ameis ,- Original Message - From: Steve Matzura [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 4:18 AM Subject: Re: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6 On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 02:37:51 -0400, you wrote: Well I still have Nero 5.5, so I only know that someone said that it's the most accessible version of Nero. Mine seems pretty accessible, but I do have to do a lot of tabbing around. Tabbing around and accessibility are not related. You must not be using Windows 2000 or XP yet, I think they require the lates NB, V6.6 or something like that. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.7 - Release Date: 6/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.7 - Release Date: 6/10/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.8 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.8 - Release Date: 6/11/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6
Hi Shannon, I can only supply half the information for your Cliff's Notes review. I can tell you one vendor I've learned about that still sells the program, even though it's been supplanted by a new version that Roxio now calls *Media* Creator. and that's at staples.com, the office supply company. They have a search function on their site, so you just type something like Roxio Easy CD/DVD into the edit box, press the Go or Search Now button, and you'll find it. It's only $29.95, which is a hole lot cheaper than the new version, and you'll find as much familiarity with it and discussion of it online as for any of the similar programs you've seen mentioned. Plenty of people to talk to about how to use it. I don't know how to find out whether your CD-ROM drive is appropriate with Easy CD/DVD Creator. Hopefully someone else here can fill you in. I don't think it's a big, esoteric challenge, but others can help you figure this out. Hope this helps, Daniel Original Message - From: shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 7:10 AM Subject: Re: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6 Hello, I have just been looking through the archives and this is the same thing I am looking for. Daniel or someone, could you tell me where to look for this Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6? I can see that Daniel is doing his homework on this subject and I would like to get the cliff notes? Smile This program sounds like exactly what I am looking for. I want to dump the B's Gold program I am battling. Another question is it important what kind of burner I have installed? Thank you Shannon - Original Message - From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:07 AM Subject: Re: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6 Daniel, Easy CD/DVD Creater 6 will both make copies of music or data disks and will allow creation of a data disk as well as music and .mp3 disks. Clifford [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/31/2005 6:00:31 PM P.S. Does either of these two programs allow for simply copying a music CD? - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6 - Original Message - From: Dana S. Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org As I mentioned to Donna, I've been trying out various CD ripping and burning programs to find the one that's most screen reader accessible and user friendly for me, and sells for the lowest possible price for what it offers. I think I'm down to these two, at the moment. I wonder if people might like to chime in. Do either of these two programs also enable data disc creation, say, for making backups of files? I have a demo copy of Easy CD Extractor, and it doesn't seem to. Does Easy CD/DVD creator do data disks? For the five-buck difference (Easy CDDVD Creator version 6, where still available, is $20.95 compared to Easy CD Extractor's $24.95.) Is one interface meaningfully more simple and navigable with Jaws? Does either one have better written and better designed help documentation than the other? Easy CD Extractor's help files aren't bad at all, though I do wonder why they recommend ripping on the fly, contrary to what Kevin says convincingly is good practice). Is either more reliable than the other in basic usage? Does either have better or more preferences you can set? Are upgrades free for the Roxio product, as they are for Easy CD Extractor? Thanks. Any other useful comments will be appreciated, too. I just can't think of what else to ask. And I can't demo a copy of the Roxio product,so this is the only way to find out anything about it without buying it first. thanks a lot. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.2 - Release Date: 5/31/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.2 - Release Date: 5/31/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.2 - Release Date: 5/31/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org
Re: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6
Ah. Okay. that makes sense. The one visit I made to the Roxio site, I noticed mainly that the version we're talking about wasn't offered there any longer and, since I experienced the sight in discrete bits of informationwith Jaws, rather than taking in all of the page at a glance, (as if that weren't obvious),I never noticed any stuff like lists of supported recorders. Thanks. I - Original Message - From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 8:01 AM Subject: Re: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6 I think on the Roxio.com site in the support area, you can find a list of supported cd recorders. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/10/2005 9:36:09 AM Hi Shannon, I can only supply half the information for your Cliff's Notes review. I can tell you one vendor I've learned about that still sells the program, even though it's been supplanted by a new version that Roxio now calls *Media* Creator. and that's at staples.com, the office supply company. They have a search function on their site, so you just type something like Roxio Easy CD/DVD into the edit box, press the Go or Search Now button, and you'll find it. It's only $29.95, which is a hole lot cheaper than the new version, and you'll find as much familiarity with it and discussion of it online as for any of the similar programs you've seen mentioned. Plenty of people to talk to about how to use it. I don't know how to find out whether your CD-ROM drive is appropriate with Easy CD/DVD Creator. Hopefully someone else here can fill you in. I don't think it's a big, esoteric challenge, but others can help you figure this out. Hope this helps, Daniel Original Message - From: shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 7:10 AM Subject: Re: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6 Hello, I have just been looking through the archives and this is the same thing I am looking for. Daniel or someone, could you tell me where to look for this Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6? I can see that Daniel is doing his homework on this subject and I would like to get the cliff notes? Smile This program sounds like exactly what I am looking for. I want to dump the B's Gold program I am battling. Another question is it important what kind of burner I have installed? Thank you Shannon - Original Message - From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:07 AM Subject: Re: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6 Daniel, Easy CD/DVD Creater 6 will both make copies of music or data disks and will allow creation of a data disk as well as music and .mp3 disks. Clifford [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/31/2005 6:00:31 PM P.S. Does either of these two programs allow for simply copying a music CD? - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6 - Original Message - From: Dana S. Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org As I mentioned to Donna, I've been trying out various CD ripping and burning programs to find the one that's most screen reader accessible and user friendly for me, and sells for the lowest possible price for what it offers. I think I'm down to these two, at the moment. I wonder if people might like to chime in. Do either of these two programs also enable data disc creation, say, for making backups of files? I have a demo copy of Easy CD Extractor, and it doesn't seem to. Does Easy CD/DVD creator do data disks? For the five-buck difference (Easy CDDVD Creator version 6, where still available, is $20.95 compared to Easy CD Extractor's $24.95.) Is one interface meaningfully more simple and navigable with Jaws? Does either one have better written and better designed help documentation than the other? Easy CD Extractor's help files aren't bad at all, though I do wonder why they recommend ripping on the fly, contrary to what Kevin says convincingly is good practice). Is either more reliable than the other in basic usage? Does either have better or more preferences you can set? Are upgrades free for the Roxio product, as they are for Easy CD Extractor? Thanks. Any other useful comments will be appreciated, too. I just can't think of what else to ask. And I can't demo a copy of the Roxio product,so this is the only way to find out anything about it without buying it first. thanks a lot. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.2 - Release Date: 5/31/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc
Re: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6
Gary, Do you by chance know what they actually mean by this? I have Version 6 now, and so far as I can judge, it's very accessible, in the sense that Jaws readily speaks all the controls and such. Personally, I wouldn't mind if you didn't have to tab around and guess the order in which you do certain things, and figure out which tab or page you're on, but when someone creates a blind friendly program that ameliorates *that* kind of problem, wel, I'll switch political parties. or something like that. . - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:57 PM Subject: Re: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6 Hi Clifford. Someone said that Nero 6.6 is the most accessible for the blind of all the Nero versions. - Original Message - From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6 Shannon, I'm not Daniel, but here's what I understand. The interface for Easy Media Creater changed from version 6. It makes the menus very difficult if not impossible to read with JFW. I don't know how well or not it may be with Window Eyes. Version 6 used the same interface in a new package as was used in Version 5. Version 5 was slightly changed from 4, but not enough to make it difficult. Clifford [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/10/2005 10:09:45 AM Daniel, Thanks for the reply. Do you know anything about the new version? Is there a reason not to look into it? Ware can it be looked at? Can the new one be tried? thanks again for all the help. I am learning allot from listening to your conversations. Shannon - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 9:36 AM Subject: Re: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6 Hi Shannon, I can only supply half the information for your Cliff's Notes review. I can tell you one vendor I've learned about that still sells the program, even though it's been supplanted by a new version that Roxio now calls *Media* Creator. and that's at staples.com, the office supply company. They have a search function on their site, so you just type something like Roxio Easy CD/DVD into the edit box, press the Go or Search Now button, and you'll find it. It's only $29.95, which is a hole lot cheaper than the new version, and you'll find as much familiarity with it and discussion of it online as for any of the similar programs you've seen mentioned. Plenty of people to talk to about how to use it. I don't know how to find out whether your CD-ROM drive is appropriate with Easy CD/DVD Creator. Hopefully someone else here can fill you in. I don't think it's a big, esoteric challenge, but others can help you figure this out. Hope this helps, Daniel Original Message - From: shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 7:10 AM Subject: Re: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6 Hello, I have just been looking through the archives and this is the same thing I am looking for. Daniel or someone, could you tell me where to look for this Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6? I can see that Daniel is doing his homework on this subject and I would like to get the cliff notes? Smile This program sounds like exactly what I am looking for. I want to dump the B's Gold program I am battling. Another question is it important what kind of burner I have installed? Thank you Shannon - Original Message - From: Clifford Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:07 AM Subject: Re: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6 Daniel, Easy CD/DVD Creater 6 will both make copies of music or data disks and will allow creation of a data disk as well as music and .mp3 disks. Clifford [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/31/2005 6:00:31 PM P.S. Does either of these two programs allow for simply copying a music CD? - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6 - Original Message - From: Dana S. Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org As I mentioned to Donna, I've been trying out various CD ripping and burning programs to find the one that's most screen reader accessible and user friendly for me, and sells for the lowest possible price for what it offers. I think I'm down to these two, at the moment. I wonder if people might like to chime in. Do either
Re: can't copy and paste .mp3 file
Hi, I'm sorry. I must not have written my message very clearly. I tried to word it in such a way as to say that It isn't that I'm not familiar with Windows keyboard commands, or with the usual task of copying or cutting and pasting. Or selecting. And I wasn't trying to select the entire folder's worth of files at once, but only this one particular folder. The others in the same files list view didn't give me the same problem. Anyway, thanks for responding. You might already know this; but, I thought I would pass it on for what it's worth. When you go to window explorer and select a number of files, You must use control A which will select all the files you have up. Then when you press control C, the files are copied to the clip board. Hitting control P paste will place the files where you have selected. HTH - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC-Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:46 PM Subject: can't copy and paste .mp3 file I'm mystified. I've ripped several of my music CDs to .mp3 files in order to be able to either play them on my computer or copy them to a mobile device. And, for the most part, everything has been working fine. But there are several files I've encountered, one among the tracks of one CD, another from another CD, in no particular pattern, that, when I select them in Windows Explorer and press Control C to copy them to the Clipboard so I can paste them into the drive where my USB mobile device is plugged in, I get the message No text selected. Now, I'm pretty certain that the highlight is on the file, given that I've just arrowed to it, and Jaws has spoken its filename in the list view of that folder, perfectly normally. This isn't about all tracks from a particular CD in its folder. It's just one file, now and then. In at least one case, it's a file I've previously copied in the same fashion to another player, although sometimes that was done using the Audible Manager interface from audible.com to put the file on that other player. n . Any ideas? I'm completely baffled, this is so odd. Thanks, Daniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 6/8/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 6/8/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 6/8/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't copy and paste .mp3 file
Gary, You're right! That works, after I press my left and right arrows firmly a couple of times. How strange! Well, thanks. I never would've thought of playing around with the left and right arrow keys to see if they'd fix it. How did you discover this move? From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:13 PM Subject: Re: can't copy and paste .mp3 file Hi Daniel. I get that problem sometimes. When I get that, I right-arrow then backto the left again. It them seems to work for me. Hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC-Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:46 PM Subject: can't copy and paste .mp3 file I'm mystified. I've ripped several of my music CDs to .mp3 files in order to be able to either play them on my computer or copy them to a mobile device. And, for the most part, everything has been working fine. But there are several files I've encountered, one among the tracks of one CD, another from another CD, in no particular pattern, that, when I select them in Windows Explorer and press Control C to copy them to the Clipboard so I can paste them into the drive where my USB mobile device is plugged in, I get the message No text selected. Now, I'm pretty certain that the highlight is on the file, given that I've just arrowed to it, and Jaws has spoken its filename in the list view of that folder, perfectly normally. This isn't about all tracks from a particular CD in its folder. It's just one file, now and then. In at least one case, it's a file I've previously copied in the same fashion to another player, although sometimes that was done using the Audible Manager interface from audible.com to put the file on that other player. n . Any ideas? I'm completely baffled, this is so odd. Thanks, Daniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 6/8/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 6/8/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 6/8/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't copy and paste .mp3 file
this is really interesting. Well, perplexing, is what I mean. In years of using Jaws, over several versions of it and a couple of versions of Windows, this never happened to me until now. I wonder what it is that causes a filename to resist being selected and registering as such. I presume Jaws, even though it may be causing the probe, is only speaking the Windows message. asus - Original Message - From: Doc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 1:40 AM Subject: Re: can't copy and paste .mp3 file In many cases Jaws is the culpret here. What you may try is highlighting the file as usual them press the applications key and arrow down to copy. Robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A)bort, (R)etry, (P)retend this never happened ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 6/8/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 6/8/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't copy and paste .mp3 file
Hi, I know this. I'm sorry if I somehow gave the impression I wasn't clear about Windows commands for copying, cutting and pasting. No problems in that area. Old hand, I am. Sorry if I confused anyone. . - Original Message - From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 5:05 AM Subject: Re: can't copy and paste .mp3 file Control-A is just another way of selecting. It's not necessarily part of the selection process. It's just a shortcut for selecting everything that is currently available. Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! New DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.0: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal Visa, Mastercard, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 6/8/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 6/8/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: files to burn
I haven't been following this thread closely, but I think the answer you're after is this: Most of the CD-burning programs that have been being discussed here-- Easy CD Creator, Nero, etc.-- all create music CDs of .CDA files by taking your .mp3, .wma or .wav files and converting them to the appropriate format without your having to intercede at all. it's just automatic. At least this is what I've learned while exploring four or five popular CD-ripping programs over the past couple of weeks. - Original Message - From: Howard Traxler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 3:41 AM Subject: Re: files to burn Thanks Gary, I will burn an audio CD. The files that I have are .wav that I creted using GoldWave. My question was: Do I need to convert them to something else? If so, how would I do that? Thanks you much. - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:37 AM Subject: Re: files to burn Hi Howard. It depends on whether you want to make a music CD or an MP3 CD. You can put up to ten hours of music on an MP3 CD, if that's the way you want to go. - Original Message - From: Howard Traxler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 8:12 PM Subject: files to burn Hi all. Here's a question from me, Howard Traxler. I've read this list for years, but never had much questions .. or answers. I'm ready to burn an audio CD. All the files are .wav files. Do I need to convert them to something else? If so, how would I do that? Thanks you much. Howard ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.5 - Release Date: 6/7/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.5 - Release Date: 6/7/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: files to burn
I meant, in the last line, CD *burning* programs. Sorry. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:14 AM Subject: Re: files to burn I haven't been following this thread closely, but I think the answer you're after is this: Most of the CD-burning programs that have been being discussed here-- Easy CD Creator, Nero, etc.-- all create music CDs of .CDA files by taking your .mp3, .wma or .wav files and converting them to the appropriate format without your having to intercede at all. it's just automatic. At least this is what I've learned while exploring four or five popular CD-ripping programs over the past couple of weeks. - Original Message - From: Howard Traxler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 3:41 AM Subject: Re: files to burn Thanks Gary, I will burn an audio CD. The files that I have are .wav that I creted using GoldWave. My question was: Do I need to convert them to something else? If so, how would I do that? Thanks you much. - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:37 AM Subject: Re: files to burn Hi Howard. It depends on whether you want to make a music CD or an MP3 CD. You can put up to ten hours of music on an MP3 CD, if that's the way you want to go. - Original Message - From: Howard Traxler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 8:12 PM Subject: files to burn Hi all. Here's a question from me, Howard Traxler. I've read this list for years, but never had much questions .. or answers. I'm ready to burn an audio CD. All the files are .wav files. Do I need to convert them to something else? If so, how would I do that? Thanks you much. Howard ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.5 - Release Date: 6/7/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.5 - Release Date: 6/7/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.5 - Release Date: 6/7/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.5 - Release Date: 6/7/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
can't copy and paste .mp3 file
I'm mystified. I've ripped several of my music CDs to .mp3 files in order to be able to either play them on my computer or copy them to a mobile device. And, for the most part, everything has been working fine. But there are several files I've encountered, one among the tracks of one CD, another from another CD, in no particular pattern, that, when I select them in Windows Explorer and press Control C to copy them to the Clipboard so I can paste them into the drive where my USB mobile device is plugged in, I get the message No text selected. Now, I'm pretty certain that the highlight is on the file, given that I've just arrowed to it, and Jaws has spoken its filename in the list view of that folder, perfectly normally. This isn't about all tracks from a particular CD in its folder. It's just one file, now and then. In at least one case, it's a file I've previously copied in the same fashion to another player, although sometimes that was done using the Audible Manager interface from audible.com to put the file on that other player. n . Any ideas? I'm completely baffled, this is so odd. Thanks, Daniel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 6/8/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: To IPod or not?
Tim, Can you provide a Web address for researching this player? Thanks a lot. I'd like to learn more about it. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 8:28 AM Subject: Re: To IPod or not? Look at the Iriver players. It's easy to transfer files from your computer to the Ipod, but that's not what you should be concerned about. Especially on the newer Ipods, they're not accessible for a totally blind person. The only one now that is accessible is the Shuffle, but that's not what you want. - Original Message - From: K. Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 4:04 AM Subject: To IPod or not? Hello. I've finally decided to exchange my portable MP3 player for an IPod. Don't know too much about this gadget, , but I've been Googling for information the past few days. Does anyone here own an IPod? If so, how accessible is it to transfer MP3 files from your PC to the player using speech? I'm using JAWS 6.1 under Windows XP Home Edition (SP2). Have a Triple Talk hardware synth. Seems the IPod comes with ITune software for transferring files. Also, if someone can offer a better piece of equipment for storing thousands of MP3 files on a massive hard drive (20 GB and up), Has great portability and accessible software too, please chine in. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.4 - Release Date: 6/6/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.4 - Release Date: 6/6/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which version of Nero is the screen reader favorite?
But is Smart computing about accessibility? I'm not familiar with this journal. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 1:11 AM Subject: Re: which version of Nero is the screen reader favorite? I just read a less than enthusiastic review in the 05-2005 issue of Smart Computing. They did not give alternative recommendations. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 1:36 AM Subject: Re: which version of Nero is the screen reader favorite? P.S. Cancel that request. I just found a very positive review of Nero Version 6 Ultra at http://www.accesswatch.info/reviewdisplay.php?pid=13PHPSESSID=2a652adccfc51dfd6dd396d0ca6e822f And now I'm clear about this. Thanks to anyone who was about to post. Daniel - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC-Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 8:50 PM Subject: which version of Nero is the screen reader favorite? I'm considering getting myself a copy of Nero for my rip and burn program. But As I look at the Nero site, the current version seems to be called Nero Ultra. It doesn't seem as if that's the name of the version that everyone mentions that they're using with Jaws or Window Eyes (I'm a Jaws user). And I'd want to make sure I was getting the one that is most Jaws friendly. What's the version number and name of the right one? I went to the JFW Lite programs page expecting to find scripts for Nero there, and maybe learn which version to get, but a Find for Nero turned up nothing on that page, to my surprise. People were just saying recently that there are scripts there for both Nero and for the Roxio Easy CD/DVD Creator prior to the most recent version (Roxio Easy Media Creator). Advice will be appreciated. There seems to be more than one Nero out there, and I'd like to know which one to consider buying. . -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which version of Nero is the screen reader favorite?
You're right. As I said earlier, I've got it sorted, now. Thanks, Daniel - Original Message - From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 9:52 AM Subject: Re: which version of Nero is the screen reader favorite? I think the Nero 6.0 version is the Ultra. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC-Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 11:50 PM Subject: which version of Nero is the screen reader favorite? I'm considering getting myself a copy of Nero for my rip and burn program. But As I look at the Nero site, the current version seems to be called Nero Ultra. It doesn't seem as if that's the name of the version that everyone mentions that they're using with Jaws or Window Eyes (I'm a Jaws user). And I'd want to make sure I was getting the one that is most Jaws friendly. What's the version number and name of the right one? I went to the JFW Lite programs page expecting to find scripts for Nero there, and maybe learn which version to get, but a Find for Nero turned up nothing on that page, to my surprise. People were just saying recently that there are scripts there for both Nero and for the Roxio Easy CD/DVD Creator prior to the most recent version (Roxio Easy Media Creator). Advice will be appreciated. There seems to be more than one Nero out there, and I'd like to know which one to consider buying. . -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
which version of Nero is the screen reader favorite?
I'm considering getting myself a copy of Nero for my rip and burn program. But As I look at the Nero site, the current version seems to be called Nero Ultra. It doesn't seem as if that's the name of the version that everyone mentions that they're using with Jaws or Window Eyes (I'm a Jaws user). And I'd want to make sure I was getting the one that is most Jaws friendly. What's the version number and name of the right one? I went to the JFW Lite programs page expecting to find scripts for Nero there, and maybe learn which version to get, but a Find for Nero turned up nothing on that page, to my surprise. People were just saying recently that there are scripts there for both Nero and for the Roxio Easy CD/DVD Creator prior to the most recent version (Roxio Easy Media Creator). Advice will be appreciated. There seems to be more than one Nero out there, and I'd like to know which one to consider buying. . -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which version of Nero is the screen reader favorite?
P.S. Cancel that request. I just found a very positive review of Nero Version 6 Ultra at http://www.accesswatch.info/reviewdisplay.php?pid=13PHPSESSID=2a652adccfc51dfd6dd396d0ca6e822f And now I'm clear about this. Thanks to anyone who was about to post. Daniel - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC-Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 8:50 PM Subject: which version of Nero is the screen reader favorite? I'm considering getting myself a copy of Nero for my rip and burn program. But As I look at the Nero site, the current version seems to be called Nero Ultra. It doesn't seem as if that's the name of the version that everyone mentions that they're using with Jaws or Window Eyes (I'm a Jaws user). And I'd want to make sure I was getting the one that is most Jaws friendly. What's the version number and name of the right one? I went to the JFW Lite programs page expecting to find scripts for Nero there, and maybe learn which version to get, but a Find for Nero turned up nothing on that page, to my surprise. People were just saying recently that there are scripts there for both Nero and for the Roxio Easy CD/DVD Creator prior to the most recent version (Roxio Easy Media Creator). Advice will be appreciated. There seems to be more than one Nero out there, and I'd like to know which one to consider buying. . -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6
thanks. This is what I thought I'd figured out by tabbing around the controls on each program and looking at the help files. I just wanted to make sure. - Original Message - From: dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:56 AM Subject: Re: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6 you can coppy with creater. but not with extracter. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 6:00 PM Subject: Re: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6 P.S. Does either of these two programs allow for simply copying a music CD? - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6 - Original Message - From: Dana S. Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org As I mentioned to Donna, I've been trying out various CD ripping and burning programs to find the one that's most screen reader accessible and user friendly for me, and sells for the lowest possible price for what it offers. I think I'm down to these two, at the moment. I wonder if people might like to chime in. Do either of these two programs also enable data disc creation, say, for making backups of files? I have a demo copy of Easy CD Extractor, and it doesn't seem to. Does Easy CD/DVD creator do data disks? For the five-buck difference (Easy CDDVD Creator version 6, where still available, is $20.95 compared to Easy CD Extractor's $24.95.) Is one interface meaningfully more simple and navigable with Jaws? Does either one have better written and better designed help documentation than the other? Easy CD Extractor's help files aren't bad at all, though I do wonder why they recommend ripping on the fly, contrary to what Kevin says convincingly is good practice). Is either more reliable than the other in basic usage? Does either have better or more preferences you can set? Are upgrades free for the Roxio product, as they are for Easy CD Extractor? Thanks. Any other useful comments will be appreciated, too. I just can't think of what else to ask. And I can't demo a copy of the Roxio product,so this is the only way to find out anything about it without buying it first. thanks a lot. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.2 - Release Date: 5/31/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.2 - Release Date: 5/31/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.2 - Release Date: 5/31/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.2 - Release Date: 5/31/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.2 - Release Date: 5/31/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Burning with RealPlayer
Donna, oh. The Tools menu in Windows Explorer. Okay. I've worked with it plenty of times, though I don't understand right now how changing anything there will dictate to Real Player which file types to include in its scan for music files. If you can explain that, that'd be nice. As for Easy CD Extractor, I have been shopping around for a program for just the purposes you mention. In fact, I've been working with a demo version of that program, to see if I can get comfortable with it. But a lot of people using a screen reader seem to also like the Roxio Easy CD/DVD Creator Version 6 (which you can stil find at some online stores, rather than the new hundred dollar multimedia version) and Nero (the fulll version, not Express) as well. And a couple of others, too, such as CDRWIN, a Premier Assistive Technologies program, and so forth. Do you have experience with any of these, in order to help me choose? Just in case you are familiar with more than Easy Extractor. I'm interested in as much simplicity of interface as possible and as low a price as possible, too. Thanks. , o - Original Message - From: Dana S. Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 7:04 AM Subject: Re: Burning with RealPlayer If all you're looking for is a ripper and a burner with a simple interface, definitely forget about the realPlayer, and go with Easy CD-DA Extractor, instead. I only use RealPlayer for playing Real web streams, and for burning the RAX files I've been downloading lately from the Real Music Store, which can only be burned to CD in the Premium RealPlayer. As to the file types: start Windows Explorer (NOT Internet Explorer), go to the Tools menu, go to the Folder Options menu, press ctrl-tab twice, so that you're on the third tab in the dialogue, the File Types tab. Explore the settings on that tab. Let me know if you have any further questions, once you've done so. - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 6:43 PM Subject: Re: Burning with RealPlayer Donna, I admit I just don't understand the Real Player menus, then. So far as I understood earlier, I *was* in the section for setting the file types the Library should deal with. I just don't understand theinterface, and I think I'm just going to give up and settle on one of the several commercial rip and burn programs I've been auditioning to see which one is most Jaws friendly and most comprehensible to me. So let me just give up on this Real Player project. I tried the same procedure in Windows Media Player and that, too defeated me because there are so many controls and lists as I tab around, it's a real mess to figure out. I really appreciate the simpler, dedicated programs all the more in comparison. But one question I'd still like to ask: You say there's a Window Explorer file types dialogue? What do you mean? I'm pretty familiar with Windows Explorer-- I mean very familiar; I use it as my file management tool all day. But I don't know what you're referring to. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Dana S. Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 12:33 PM Subject: Re: Burning with RealPlayer Yardbird, I can't find anything like what you're talking about in the My Library preferences section. The only place I find anything like that is in the mediaTypes preferences. and these do not control the media types that My Library will notice, so much as the media types RealPlayer will play. As far as how to configure them, I find it much easier to do so from the Windows Explorer File Types dialogue. You can just scroll down the list of types there, and assign those you wan to Realplayer, and those you want to Winamp, etc. You can even assign some to windows Media player, though I wouldn't recommend doing that. grin - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 3:08 PM Subject: Re: Burning with RealPlayer I have a question about this part of the operation, also. I went into the Library configuration things in the Files menu, and got to where I was presented with a list of file types from which to choose which would be noticed and imported into the library. Well, I couldn't figure out how to make the individual options in the list say whether they were selected or not, and kept experimenting with the space bar to see if they'd speak their state. But they didn't. So I tabbed and discovered buttons for select all and deselect all. But I'd rather be able to check just the file types I want the library to deal with, spcifically .mp3 and .wma files, and that's it. Anyone know how to select file types using Jaws? Thanks. han eselct - Original Message - From: Dana S. Leslie [EMAIL
Re: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6
P.S. Does either of these two programs allow for simply copying a music CD? - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: comparing Easy CD Extractor vs. Easy CD/DVD Creator v. 6 - Original Message - From: Dana S. Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org As I mentioned to Donna, I've been trying out various CD ripping and burning programs to find the one that's most screen reader accessible and user friendly for me, and sells for the lowest possible price for what it offers. I think I'm down to these two, at the moment. I wonder if people might like to chime in. Do either of these two programs also enable data disc creation, say, for making backups of files? I have a demo copy of Easy CD Extractor, and it doesn't seem to. Does Easy CD/DVD creator do data disks? For the five-buck difference (Easy CDDVD Creator version 6, where still available, is $20.95 compared to Easy CD Extractor's $24.95.) Is one interface meaningfully more simple and navigable with Jaws? Does either one have better written and better designed help documentation than the other? Easy CD Extractor's help files aren't bad at all, though I do wonder why they recommend ripping on the fly, contrary to what Kevin says convincingly is good practice). Is either more reliable than the other in basic usage? Does either have better or more preferences you can set? Are upgrades free for the Roxio product, as they are for Easy CD Extractor? Thanks. Any other useful comments will be appreciated, too. I just can't think of what else to ask. And I can't demo a copy of the Roxio product,so this is the only way to find out anything about it without buying it first. thanks a lot. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.2 - Release Date: 5/31/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.2 - Release Date: 5/31/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.2 - Release Date: 5/31/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kevin: On the fly, another question
Hi guys, Thanks to Donna for persevering. I just want to reassure both you guys that that's what I meant by my question in the first place. I never imagined that this process had some power to actually rectify errors on the origin CD! I don't know how I gave that impression, causing Kevin to try to correct a mistaken idea I didn't even have. Anyway, what you say, Donna, and what Kevin agrees to, is exactly what I was guessing to be the purpose of the process. it's what I meant to have said. I'll bet if I looked back through the exchanges, I'd find a juncture where I might have phrased something in just such a way as to divert or mislead Kevin. I probably spoke of correcting the errors that are on the CD, for instance, when I didn't mean fix the CD, by any means-- I know that isn't possible, and that error correction in a player, for example, just compensates for and paves over such errors,somewhat I suppose as this intermediate copying step does. I should have said something like fixes the errors that have been copied from the CD, before they're encoded into the compressed music file and/or the duped CD and become permanent and, likely, unplayable. Whew. Well, that's what I meant in the first place, and the misunderstanding grew worse and worse until Kevin seemed to be negating every one of my proposals, while all the while we were on the same page in our thoughts though not in our words. Well, so it goes. Thanks for your persistence in trying to straighten me out even though I had the right idea, Kevin! And Donna, thanks for taking a moment (or more, I suppose) to offer an articulate revision for us to consider and just say Oh, yeah, that's what we meant. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 1:37 AM Subject: Re: Kevin: On the fly, another question Yes, Dana, that's it in a nutshell. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dana S. Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 2:24 AM Subject: Re: Kevin: On the fly, another question Yardbird, Pardon me for jumping in, but I think your problem is that you're misunderstanding what Kevin is telling you. correct me if I'm wrong, Kevin, but my understanding is that the intermediate stage of writing an image file to disk is NOT intended to correct/prevent errors that result from flaws on the source disk. Rather, it is intended to provide an opportunity to correct errors that were introduced in the transcription process, from source to destination, before these errors get permanently written to CD, thus producing an expensive coaster. Do I have it right, Kevin. Blessed Be, Dana D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ - Original Message - From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 9:36 PM Subject: Re: Kevin: On the fly, another question What I'm asking is, how does the intermediate stage of having this image written to disk improve accuracy? that is all I've been trying to ask by what I've said. If the music CD from which you're ripping tracks has flaws that would distort the sound or introduce noises (I don't believe you mean the pops and clicks that plague LPs, really, do you?), then how does this intermediate step help protect against winding up with a noisy .mp3 file? I don't know what you mean by asking rhetorircally why the developer would include this stage as an option. I honestly don't know what's accomplished with this. If it doesn't give the program a chance to clean up errors, then what good does it do? I am *not* speaking sarcastically. I'm really asking.being Do you think I'm questioning the wisdom of the program writers who include this option? No, not at all. I'm not anywhere near being able to address something like that. I honestly just don't see how making an intermediate copy is going to prevent you from getting bad sound from a damaged CD. I mean, what is done along the way to remedy a bad CD? You're saying nothing is done? Do you see what I'm not getting? I don't know how else to phrase it. - Original Message - From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 12:04 PM Subject: Re: Kevin: On the fly, another question No Joel. Once an image is created it's not going to be able to go back and clean up any imperfections. My point is that the creation of the image itself allows the ripper to separate the processes. If you're ripping on the fly you won't get an image file at all because the encoding is being done on the data stream
Re: Burning with RealPlayer
Accessible help file? Do you mean that there's a book or topic heading in the help documentation dedicated to accessibility techniques? I remember seeing a keyboard command list, but don't remember an entire accessibility section. I'll look again, if you say there is one, though. list - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 9:55 AM Subject: Re: Burning with RealPlayer I don't use JFW so I don't find it difficult to use the mouse keys. I don't know of a hot key, although there might be one. Realplayer has a really good help file. In fact, if you don't like it you can get the screen accessible help file. The help lists a hotkey section specifically for Screenreaders. I felt the same way you did about my library until I started using the Ipod Shuffle for music. You should really take another look at it because if you do a lot of transferring or burning it makes it a lot easier to do. - Original Message - From: Dana S. Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 10:34 PM Subject: Re: Burning with RealPlayer Tim, I find using My Library very difficult. I prefer to highlight the tracks I want to burn in Windows Explorer, then right click, and choose burn a CD in Realplayer. But, whether I select the tracks I want to burn this way, or your way (using My Library), once the Burn/Transfer screen is up, I still have the same difficulty. I can tab until I find the Burn Your CD button. But I can't activate it in PC cursor mode. I have to switch to JAWS cursor mode. But, then, I still find it very difficult to locate the burn Your CD button using the JAWS CURSOR. What I want, once my tracks are selected and I'm on the Burn/Transfer screen (however I've gotten to that point), is something like a pull-down menu command, hot key, or key stroke command, to activate the Burn Your Cd button, without having to resort to the JAWS cursor. Do you have any suggestions on this specific, last step in the process? Thanks. Blessed Be, Dana D. S. Leslie, ne C. R. Guttman [EMAIL PROTECTED] E OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ - Original Message - From: Tim Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 12:37 PM Subject: Re: Burning with RealPlayer Yes. Just make sure your library is set up right before you do this. Hit the alt-v key and choose burn-transfer. When you pick it you can choose what you want from your library and tell it that you want to burn a cd(do that first) and click burn cd. Oh, you need to tell it what kind of cd. - Original Message - From: Dana S. Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC-Audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 12:17 PM Subject: Burning with RealPlayer For a few days now, I've been downloading tracks from the RealPlayer 10 Music Store, burning them to CD - which has to be done in RealPlayer Premium - , and ripping them off as .wav files. It's been working well, and the quality of the tracks is excellent! But I have one major problem (aside from the cost grin). When the tracks I want to burn are loaded in RealPlayer and ready to be burned, the burn your Tracks button has to be click with the JAWS cursor, and it's rather hard to find in JAWS cursor mode. Does anyone know of an easier way to start a burn in RealPlayer 10? Is there a key stroke, or something else I don't know about? Thanks. Blessed Be, Dana D. S. Leslie, ne C. R. Guttman [EMAIL PROTECTED] E OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.0 - Release Date: 5/30/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.0 - Release Date: 5/30/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help,
