Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better than the original

[Dane Trethowan]

I know that partience is a virtue so I can only hope my fin findings 
won't disappoint though with B stuff? I've never been disappointed.




On 16/09/2016 5:21 AM, John Gurd wrote:

We will await your report with interest, Dane (smiles)

John


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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 15 September 2016 19:21
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Subject: Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better 
than the original

I have the originals myself though one does have to wonder just how good they 
are if they're selling for the same price as the originals which they are, 
anyway I've made arrangements to go take a listen myself.



On 16/09/2016 3:16 AM, John Gurd wrote:

If these are as good as they claim, I'd be sorely tempted even though I've got 
the original P7's already.

John


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Dane Trethowan
Sent: 14 September 2016 18:56
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They
sound better than the original

I?ve owned an original Bowers And Wilkins P7 set for around 12 months now I 
think it is.
Like you I would never claim that they?re the best cans around but I reckon 
they?re damn good all the same so I?ll be making a point of going to my local 
Hi-Fi store to give these babies a listen.


On 14 Sep 2016, at 11:46 PM, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote:

Theo Nicolakis

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

RE: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better than the original

[John Gurd]

We will await your report with interest, Dane (smiles)

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 15 September 2016 19:21
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better 
than the original

I have the originals myself though one does have to wonder just how good they 
are if they're selling for the same price as the originals which they are, 
anyway I've made arrangements to go take a listen myself.



On 16/09/2016 3:16 AM, John Gurd wrote:
> If these are as good as they claim, I'd be sorely tempted even though I've 
> got the original P7's already.
>
> John
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Dane Trethowan
> Sent: 14 September 2016 18:56
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They 
> sound better than the original
>
> I?ve owned an original Bowers And Wilkins P7 set for around 12 months now I 
> think it is.
> Like you I would never claim that they?re the best cans around but I reckon 
> they?re damn good all the same so I?ll be making a point of going to my local 
> Hi-Fi store to give these babies a listen.
>
>> On 14 Sep 2016, at 11:46 PM, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Theo Nicolakis
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
>
>
>
>

Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better than the original

[Mary Otten]

 The originals are now $50 cheaper.


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> On Sep 15, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
> I have the originals myself though one does have to wonder just how good they 
> are if they're selling for the same price as the originals which they are, 
> anyway I've made arrangements to go take a listen myself.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 16/09/2016 3:16 AM, John Gurd wrote:
>> If these are as good as they claim, I'd be sorely tempted even though I've 
>> got the original P7's already.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
>> Trethowan
>> Sent: 14 September 2016 18:56
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound 
>> better than the original
>> 
>> I�ve owned an original Bowers And Wilkins P7 set for around 12 months now I 
>> think it is.
>> Like you I would never claim that they�re the best cans around but I reckon 
>> they�re damn good all the same so I�ll be making a point of going to my 
>> local Hi-Fi store to give these babies a listen.
>> 
>>> On 14 Sep 2016, at 11:46 PM, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Theo Nicolakis
>> **
>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
>> halfwits in this world behind.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better than the original

[Dane Trethowan]

Yes point taken but I think you'd have to admint that the sound of good 
audio is extremely addictive and the claim is made that these new cans 
sound better than the older model.


On 16/09/2016 3:21 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

I would love to hear a pair of these. But even if they are noticeably better, 
$400 is a lot to pay when you already have a couple of excellent sets of 
headphones around.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 15, 2016, at 10:16 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

If these are as good as they claim, I'd be sorely tempted even though I've got 
the original P7's already.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 14 September 2016 18:56
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better 
than the original

I�ve owned an original Bowers And Wilkins P7 set for around 12 months now I 
think it is.
Like you I would never claim that they�re the best cans around but I reckon 
they�re damn good all the same so I�ll be making a point of going to my local 
Hi-Fi store to give these babies a listen.


On 14 Sep 2016, at 11:46 PM, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote:

Theo Nicolakis

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better than the original

[Dane Trethowan]

I have the originals myself though one does have to wonder just how good 
they are if they're selling for the same price as the originals which 
they are, anyway I've made arrangements to go take a listen myself.




On 16/09/2016 3:16 AM, John Gurd wrote:

If these are as good as they claim, I'd be sorely tempted even though I've got 
the original P7's already.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 14 September 2016 18:56
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better 
than the original

I�ve owned an original Bowers And Wilkins P7 set for around 12 months now I 
think it is.
Like you I would never claim that they�re the best cans around but I reckon 
they�re damn good all the same so I�ll be making a point of going to my local 
Hi-Fi store to give these babies a listen.


On 14 Sep 2016, at 11:46 PM, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote:

Theo Nicolakis

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better than the original

[Mary Otten]

I would love to hear a pair of these. But even if they are noticeably better, 
$400 is a lot to pay when you already have a couple of excellent sets of 
headphones around.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2016, at 10:16 AM, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> If these are as good as they claim, I'd be sorely tempted even though I've 
> got the original P7's already.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: 14 September 2016 18:56
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound 
> better than the original
> 
> I�ve owned an original Bowers And Wilkins P7 set for around 12 months now I 
> think it is.
> Like you I would never claim that they�re the best cans around but I reckon 
> they�re damn good all the same so I�ll be making a point of going to my local 
> Hi-Fi store to give these babies a listen.
> 
>> On 14 Sep 2016, at 11:46 PM, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Theo Nicolakis
> 
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 
> 

RE: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better than the original

[John Gurd]

If these are as good as they claim, I'd be sorely tempted even though I've got 
the original P7's already.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 14 September 2016 18:56
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better 
than the original

I�ve owned an original Bowers And Wilkins P7 set for around 12 months now I 
think it is.
Like you I would never claim that they�re the best cans around but I reckon 
they�re damn good all the same so I�ll be making a point of going to my local 
Hi-Fi store to give these babies a listen.

> On 14 Sep 2016, at 11:46 PM, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Theo Nicolakis

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better than the original

[Dane Trethowan]

I’ve owned an original Bowers And Wilkins P7 set for around 12 months now I 
think it is.
Like you I would never claim that they’re the best cans around but I reckon 
they’re damn good all the same so I’ll be making a point of going to my local 
Hi-Fi store to give these babies a listen.

> On 14 Sep 2016, at 11:46 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Theo Nicolakis

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They sound better than the original

[Mary Otten]

I own the wired P7. I must say, I haven't been as Luke warm on their sound as 
this reviewer seems to be. But if the new ones are as good as he says, that 
much better than the originals, and you don't already own a pair of P7, and you 
have 400 bucks, go for it.Bowers & Wilkins P7 Wireless headphones review: They 
sound better than the original
Macworld  /  Theo Nicolakis

Bowers & Wilkins has earned its place as the BMW of high-end audio. The 
company’s loudspeakers are legendary: Its five-figure Nautilus speakers have 
been displayed in museums; Abbey Road Studios has used their monitors for more 
than 20 years; and the company’s new 800 Series Diamond (which I auditioned 
during last year’s NYC launch event) are receiving rave reviews.

The company’s headphone line, on the other hand, has been the black sheep in 
the family. The wired versions have been judged as pretty good, but not truly 
great; they’ve certainly never achieved the acclaim afforded the company’s best 
speakers. Just before Apple’s iPhone 7 announcement, Bowers & Wilkins upgraded 
its P7 and P3 models to Bluetooth wireless versions. The question on just about 
every audiophile’s mind is whether these new models simply add wireless 
capability to the previous generation, or if they up the ante. I was among the 
first reviewers to get my hands on the B P7 Wireless, so I was anxious to 
find out.

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B magically transitioned its luxurious P7 headphones to Bluetooth and made 
them sound even better than the wired version.

The new P7 Wireless are easily mistaken for the original. I placed the new 
model next to its wired forerunner, which I’ve owned for quite some time, and 
found the two virtually indistinguishable. Even their spec sheets look alike: 
two 40mm full-range drivers, impedance of 22 ohms, frequency response ranging 
from 10Hz to 20kHz, and sensitivity of 111dB/V at 1kHz. The P7 wireless are a 
hair heavier at 323g vs 290g.

The Bluetooth 4.1 P7 Wireless omits the chrome accent around the ear cups, and 
while I was sorry to see that feature cut, it has zero impact on performance. A 
three-button remote control has been added to the left ear cup, as well as a 
power switch and a micro-USB charging port on the bottom.

With all the controls now on the left side, the wired input has moved to the 
right ear cup. The ear cups are magnetic, as they were on the original. To 
switch to wired mode, emove the right-hand cup, insert the 2.5mm angled end 
into the articulating input, and you’re set. Plugging in the cable immediately 
disables Bluetooth, but removing the cable doesn’t re-enable Bluetooth. You 
must power the headphones back on again manually to do that.

 Theo Nicolakis
The B P7 Wireless have magnetic, replaceable ear cups. The right ear cup 
(shown above) also has an input for wired mode.

This lap of luxury needs some break-in time

There’s nothing cheap or flimsy with these headphones. The P7 Wireless simply 
spoil you with their luxurious fit and feel. There aren’t many headphones under 
$500 (or twice the price, for that matter) that can keep up with Bowers and 
Wilkins in this regard. In my book, the P7 Wireless are a gold-standard. The 
genuine sheep leather headband and ear cups are smooth, soft, and supple. The 
sleek-looking aluminum frame is sturdy and infinitely adjustable. The headband 
guides, conceals, and automatically expands and contracts the nylon-braided 
wire connecting each ear cup. The engineering is a thing of beauty.

The headphone design gets even better. Many over-the-ear headphones aren’t 
portable—they’re just too bulky and they can’t fold flat. B has solved this 
problem by inserting a rotating joint between the edge of the headband and the 
ear cup arm that allows you to fold the headphones to half their size. 
Brilliant.

The accessories have been pored over just as meticulously. The included 
carrying case is smooth, lined with velour, and snaps closed with a magnetic 
flap. That’s industrial design done right—down to the smallest detail.

 Theo Nicolakis
Remove the left magnetic ear cup to see the headphone’s serial number and 
Bluetooth reset button.

Like a pair of your favorite Jeans

You should treat the P7 Wireless like a new pair of designer jeans: They need 
to be broken in. As with every other B headphone I’ve owned (the P5 wireless 
and the original P7), the new P7 Wireless are stiff and overly-snug when you 
first put them on. Trust me, they'll loosen up over time. Once you’ve broken 
them in, they’ll fit like a glove. Don’t be afraid to flex the metal frame a 
bit (within reason, of course) to loosen things up more quickly.

Once you get used to the P7s, you’ll notice that other headphones will seem far 
too loose and won’t stay on your head as precisely as the P7s do. You can jog 
with them without worrying that they will shift or slide off. Perhaps most