Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2012-01-05 Thread Gary Wood
I don't know if this is PCAudio related, but I'm using ATT UVerse.  With 
this, I'm able to use the computer to record shows to my DVR, and watch 
them.  It's fairly easy for me to do this way.
- Original Message - 
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 11:45 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


Yeah, I know. If there where a Media Center list then maybe. But that's 
the

thing I'm interested in too. Watching cable TV on the PC. Specificly it
would be a Dell XPS-8300. What I'm interested in knowing is will it still
work. But see the problem is you have to then start talking about the
different carriers, Comcast, ATT Verison and the like. That's where Tom
said it's too deep. I kind of knew it all along, but if you want to find 
out

what I want to find out, you have no choice but get into it that way. But
yeah, I got the point though, Audio is the main point on this list, but 
even
then you can go too deep. I had to or at least I felt it was wiser for me 
to
take my discussion about HDMI audio with Dain off list because we were 
going

to discuss graphics cards for a bit. I figured that might be a little too
much. But yeah, let's see what Tom says, but a Windows Media Center kind 
of

list would really be where this discussion really belongs I guess.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of David Tanner
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 11:32 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

I'm interested, but I want something that makes shows on cable accessible
and that seems to be farther away than access to local TV.

I would agree that there is a lot of interest, and I understand how it 
might
be contriversial on a list primarily geared to the discussion of audio. 
The
problem is that I wonder how many folks would subscribe to a list that 
only
delt with discussion of the topic we are talking about.  My guess is that 
it

would take a lot of publicity to get may people.

- Original Message -
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Hi. I'm still very interested in this topic and wish we could discuss it
further. I know it's a little out-of-the-scope of things on this list but
I think people are interested in this topic like myself. So I beg Tom to
let us delve in to this. I myself am tired of paying over 130 bucks for
these services for 75 percent of it to be inaccessible. If I'm the only
one that feels this way than I'll bow my head and not mention it again.
thanks
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific
Listen to the Shroom live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message - 
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:23 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Yeah, this right. You need a TV toner that you can put the Comcast card
into. I forgot about this. But when I talked to them, they said it 
should
work just fine like it use to. Again, if you all want to go deeper, 
which



I
would want to, E-mail me off list because when you get into things like
Comcast and the like, I guess we are going beyond the scope of the list.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of vrvaug...@mailzone.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:20 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Gary, This is Vicky. I had thought to work with a TV tuner in my new
Windows
7 computer with Jaws 13, but no go. My ISP, Comcast, says now I will 
only



be
able to work this with one of their cards, which I will be having
installed
on Wednesday January 4. This will be replacing my Set Top Box, so I'll 
be

paying rent on it each month, just like I have done on the Set Top Box.

What ISP provider do you have? What card are you successfully using on
what
computer?

Many thanks for any help! Vicky
- Original Message -
From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Mary,
In my previous post, I said that I didn't have any experience setting 
up

Media Center in Windows 7; now I do.  Sighted assistance would
definitely
be preferred, but if none is available, I would suggest that the NVDA
screen reader would be the best choice for tackling the setup screens.
I
didn't get anything with Window-Eyes.  the OCR

Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2012-01-05 Thread Gary Wood
There's supposed to be a law through Congress to mandate described programs, 
first in larger markets, then eventually everywhere!
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 1:36 AM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


Hi. From my experience tv tuners will carry this signal if it exists. 
However, most cable providers and local networks don't carry the SAP feed 
or if they do it's used for different languages and not description. Not 
that there are many things described anymore.

bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific
Listen to the Shroom live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message - 
From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


Can this thing receive the audio description found on some network 
programming? I know this stuff still exists today even though many 
digital setups can't tune it in. I don't know if something needs to be in 
the hardware of that USB tuner stick to receive the described audio, the 
software, or both. I know TVSpeak from Codefactory on the software side 
is said to do it with some of these PC tuners, but can they all do this 
now? Also, I really don't want to put that much money on TVSpeak just to 
see if the local affiliates even send that part of the signal on. Will 
the included software with this thing, assuming any still work in XP, be 
able to at least give me enough properties about the channel to verify 
the presence or lack of the description track so I can tell if TVSpeak 
will be a good investment for that purpose?


Thanks.

- Original Message - 
From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Vicky,
I am using an AVerTV Hybrid Volar MAX TV Tuner Kit that I ordered from 
amazon.com.  It is a USB tuner that I use on my Windows 7 Home Premium 
64-bit computer to receive free over-the-air signals with an antenna.  I 
don't have access to cable TV here.  I can get all of my local channels 
and one channel from about 70 miles away.  If I can get a little better 
antenna, I should be able to get the other channels that are available 
at the same distance.


Once I got Media Center set up using the NVDA screen reader, which 
worked the best but not perfectly with the setup, both JAWS and 
Window-Eyes work well with it.  I can schedule recordings of single 
programs or of series. I can also rewind live TV just like I would with 
a DVR.  It's also nice to be able to read the Program Guide in Media 
Center rather than having to look up TV listings on the Internet.


Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
- Original Message - 
From: vrvaug...@mailzone.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


Gary, This is Vicky. I had thought to work with a TV tuner in my new 
Windows 7 computer with Jaws 13, but no go. My ISP, Comcast, says now I 
will only be able to work this with one of their cards, which I will be 
having installed on Wednesday January 4. This will be replacing my Set 
Top Box, so I'll be paying rent on it each month, just like I have done 
on the Set Top Box.


What ISP provider do you have? What card are you successfully using on 
what computer?


Many thanks for any help! Vicky
- Original Message - 
From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Mary,
In my previous post, I said that I didn't have any experience setting 
up Media Center in Windows 7; now I do.  Sighted assistance would 
definitely be preferred, but if none is available, I would suggest 
that the NVDA screen reader would be the best choice for tackling the 
setup screens.  I didn't get anything with Window-Eyes.  the OCR in 
JAWS for Windows 13 did give me some usable text, but having to Use 
OCR on every screen gets rather tedious. NVDA seems to read the setup 
screens pretty well, but you do need to know how to get it to speak 
the necessary information.


Once set up, you can use your screen reader of choice to access the 
Program Guide.  I just press Spacebar to get a particular channel in 
the Guide to play or pause.  Page Up and Page Down can be used to 
change channels.


I'm enjoying having TV on my computer.  I'll have to check out the 
recording features next.


Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
- Original Message - 
From

Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2012-01-05 Thread Gary Wood

k8...@att.net.
- Original Message - 
From: vrvaug...@mailzone.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


Bret, would you and Hamit send me your emails in a written out form and 
anyone else who wants to continue this topic? I'll then try to keep 
everyone in the loop.


Vicky Vaughan
email:
vrvaug...@mailzone.com
Thanks to anyone who wants to wade in on this! Vicky
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


Hi. I'm still very interested in this topic and wish we could discuss it 
further. I know it's a little out-of-the-scope of things on this list but 
I think people are interested in this topic like myself. So I beg Tom to 
let us delve in to this. I myself am tired of paying over 130 bucks for 
these services for 75 percent of it to be inaccessible. If I'm the only 
one that feels this way than I'll bow my head and not mention it again.

thanks
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific
Listen to the Shroom live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message - 
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:23 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Yeah, this right. You need a TV toner that you can put the Comcast card
into. I forgot about this. But when I talked to them, they said it 
should
work just fine like it use to. Again, if you all want to go deeper, 
which I

would want to, E-mail me off list because when you get into things like
Comcast and the like, I guess we are going beyond the scope of the list.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of vrvaug...@mailzone.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:20 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Gary, This is Vicky. I had thought to work with a TV tuner in my new 
Windows
7 computer with Jaws 13, but no go. My ISP, Comcast, says now I will 
only be
able to work this with one of their cards, which I will be having 
installed
on Wednesday January 4. This will be replacing my Set Top Box, so I'll 
be

paying rent on it each month, just like I have done on the Set Top Box.

What ISP provider do you have? What card are you successfully using on 
what

computer?

Many thanks for any help! Vicky
- Original Message -
From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Mary,
In my previous post, I said that I didn't have any experience setting 
up
Media Center in Windows 7; now I do.  Sighted assistance would 
definitely

be preferred, but if none is available, I would suggest that the NVDA
screen reader would be the best choice for tackling the setup screens. 
I
didn't get anything with Window-Eyes.  the OCR in JAWS for Windows 13 
did

give me some usable text, but having to Use OCR on every screen gets
rather tedious. NVDA seems to read the setup screens pretty well, but 
you

do need to know how to get it to speak the necessary information.

Once set up, you can use your screen reader of choice to access the
Program Guide.  I just press Spacebar to get a particular channel in 
the

Guide to play or pause.  Page Up and Page Down can be used to change
channels.

I'm enjoying having TV on my computer.  I'll have to check out the
recording features next.

Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
- Original Message - 
From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Oh, there is no way I'm paying that much for a tv app. Forget it. Do
you have experience with the Win media set up under win 7, Gary?

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RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2012-01-05 Thread Hamit Campos
Yeah, but can you back them up? That's the problem with those some times.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:26 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

I don't know if this is PCAudio related, but I'm using ATT UVerse.  With
this, I'm able to use the computer to record shows to my DVR, and watch
them.  It's fairly easy for me to do this way.
- Original Message -
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 11:45 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Yeah, I know. If there where a Media Center list then maybe. But 
 that's the thing I'm interested in too. Watching cable TV on the PC. 
 Specificly it would be a Dell XPS-8300. What I'm interested in knowing 
 is will it still work. But see the problem is you have to then start 
 talking about the different carriers, Comcast, ATT Verison and the 
 like. That's where Tom said it's too deep. I kind of knew it all 
 along, but if you want to find out what I want to find out, you have 
 no choice but get into it that way. But yeah, I got the point though, 
 Audio is the main point on this list, but even then you can go too 
 deep. I had to or at least I felt it was wiser for me to take my 
 discussion about HDMI audio with Dain off list because we were going 
 to discuss graphics cards for a bit. I figured that might be a little 
 too much. But yeah, let's see what Tom says, but a Windows Media 
 Center kind of list would really be where this discussion really 
 belongs I guess.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of David Tanner
 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 11:32 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

 I'm interested, but I want something that makes shows on cable 
 accessible and that seems to be farther away than access to local TV.

 I would agree that there is a lot of interest, and I understand how it 
 might be contriversial on a list primarily geared to the discussion of 
 audio.
 The
 problem is that I wonder how many folks would subscribe to a list that 
 only delt with discussion of the topic we are talking about.  My guess 
 is that it would take a lot of publicity to get may people.

 - Original Message -
 From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:41 PM
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Hi. I'm still very interested in this topic and wish we could discuss 
 it further. I know it's a little out-of-the-scope of things on this 
 list but I think people are interested in this topic like myself. So 
 I beg Tom to let us delve in to this. I myself am tired of paying 
 over 130 bucks for these services for 75 percent of it to be 
 inaccessible. If I'm the only one that feels this way than I'll bow my
head and not mention it again.
 thanks
 bb
 Brett Boyer
 Audio Production and voice over
 http://brettboyer.voices.com
 Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
 Check out my radio show at my new home:
 http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
 every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom 
 live!
 http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
 - Original Message -
 From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:23 PM
 Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Yeah, this right. You need a TV toner that you can put the Comcast 
 card into. I forgot about this. But when I talked to them, they said 
 it should work just fine like it use to. Again, if you all want to 
 go deeper, which

 I
 would want to, E-mail me off list because when you get into things 
 like Comcast and the like, I guess we are going beyond the scope of the
list.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of vrvaug...@mailzone.com
 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:20 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

 Gary, This is Vicky. I had thought to work with a TV tuner in my new 
 Windows
 7 computer with Jaws 13, but no go. My ISP, Comcast, says now I will 
 only

 be
 able to work this with one of their cards, which I will be having 
 installed on Wednesday January 4. This will be replacing my Set Top 
 Box, so I'll be paying rent on it each month, just like I have done 
 on the Set Top Box.

 What ISP provider do you have? What card are you successfully using 
 on what computer?

 Many thanks for any help! Vicky
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 10

Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2012-01-05 Thread Brent Harding
I heard about that, but it might be a long time before it gets down to 
Wisconsin, unless some of the stations here already pass it and don't really 
know it.


- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood k8...@att.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 2:32 AM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


There's supposed to be a law through Congress to mandate described 
programs, first in larger markets, then eventually everywhere!
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 1:36 AM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


Hi. From my experience tv tuners will carry this signal if it exists. 
However, most cable providers and local networks don't carry the SAP feed 
or if they do it's used for different languages and not description. Not 
that there are many things described anymore.

bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific
Listen to the Shroom live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message - 
From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


Can this thing receive the audio description found on some network 
programming? I know this stuff still exists today even though many 
digital setups can't tune it in. I don't know if something needs to be 
in the hardware of that USB tuner stick to receive the described audio, 
the software, or both. I know TVSpeak from Codefactory on the software 
side is said to do it with some of these PC tuners, but can they all do 
this now? Also, I really don't want to put that much money on TVSpeak 
just to see if the local affiliates even send that part of the signal 
on. Will the included software with this thing, assuming any still work 
in XP, be able to at least give me enough properties about the channel 
to verify the presence or lack of the description track so I can tell if 
TVSpeak will be a good investment for that purpose?


Thanks.

- Original Message - 
From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Vicky,
I am using an AVerTV Hybrid Volar MAX TV Tuner Kit that I ordered from 
amazon.com.  It is a USB tuner that I use on my Windows 7 Home Premium 
64-bit computer to receive free over-the-air signals with an antenna. 
I don't have access to cable TV here.  I can get all of my local 
channels and one channel from about 70 miles away.  If I can get a 
little better antenna, I should be able to get the other channels that 
are available at the same distance.


Once I got Media Center set up using the NVDA screen reader, which 
worked the best but not perfectly with the setup, both JAWS and 
Window-Eyes work well with it.  I can schedule recordings of single 
programs or of series. I can also rewind live TV just like I would with 
a DVR.  It's also nice to be able to read the Program Guide in Media 
Center rather than having to look up TV listings on the Internet.


Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
- Original Message - 
From: vrvaug...@mailzone.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


Gary, This is Vicky. I had thought to work with a TV tuner in my new 
Windows 7 computer with Jaws 13, but no go. My ISP, Comcast, says now 
I will only be able to work this with one of their cards, which I will 
be having installed on Wednesday January 4. This will be replacing my 
Set Top Box, so I'll be paying rent on it each month, just like I have 
done on the Set Top Box.


What ISP provider do you have? What card are you successfully using on 
what computer?


Many thanks for any help! Vicky
- Original Message - 
From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Mary,
In my previous post, I said that I didn't have any experience setting 
up Media Center in Windows 7; now I do.  Sighted assistance would 
definitely be preferred, but if none is available, I would suggest 
that the NVDA screen reader would be the best choice for tackling the 
setup screens.  I didn't get anything with Window-Eyes.  the OCR in 
JAWS for Windows 13 did give me some usable text, but having to Use 
OCR on every screen gets rather tedious. NVDA seems to read the setup 
screens pretty well, but you do need to know how to get it to speak 
the necessary information.


Once set up, you can use

Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2012-01-05 Thread Gary Wood

The DVR has a rewind button, if that's what you mean.
- Original Message - 
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:08 AM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Yeah, but can you back them up? That's the problem with those some times.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:26 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

I don't know if this is PCAudio related, but I'm using ATT UVerse.  With
this, I'm able to use the computer to record shows to my DVR, and watch
them.  It's fairly easy for me to do this way.
- Original Message -
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 11:45 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Yeah, I know. If there where a Media Center list then maybe. But
that's the thing I'm interested in too. Watching cable TV on the PC.
Specificly it would be a Dell XPS-8300. What I'm interested in knowing
is will it still work. But see the problem is you have to then start
talking about the different carriers, Comcast, ATT Verison and the
like. That's where Tom said it's too deep. I kind of knew it all
along, but if you want to find out what I want to find out, you have
no choice but get into it that way. But yeah, I got the point though,
Audio is the main point on this list, but even then you can go too
deep. I had to or at least I felt it was wiser for me to take my
discussion about HDMI audio with Dain off list because we were going
to discuss graphics cards for a bit. I figured that might be a little
too much. But yeah, let's see what Tom says, but a Windows Media
Center kind of list would really be where this discussion really
belongs I guess.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of David Tanner
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 11:32 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

I'm interested, but I want something that makes shows on cable
accessible and that seems to be farther away than access to local TV.

I would agree that there is a lot of interest, and I understand how it
might be contriversial on a list primarily geared to the discussion of
audio.
The
problem is that I wonder how many folks would subscribe to a list that
only delt with discussion of the topic we are talking about.  My guess
is that it would take a lot of publicity to get may people.

- Original Message -
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Hi. I'm still very interested in this topic and wish we could discuss
it further. I know it's a little out-of-the-scope of things on this
list but I think people are interested in this topic like myself. So
I beg Tom to let us delve in to this. I myself am tired of paying
over 130 bucks for these services for 75 percent of it to be
inaccessible. If I'm the only one that feels this way than I'll bow my

head and not mention it again.

thanks
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom
live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message -
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:23 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Yeah, this right. You need a TV toner that you can put the Comcast
card into. I forgot about this. But when I talked to them, they said
it should work just fine like it use to. Again, if you all want to
go deeper, which



I
would want to, E-mail me off list because when you get into things
like Comcast and the like, I guess we are going beyond the scope of the

list.


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of vrvaug...@mailzone.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:20 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Gary, This is Vicky. I had thought to work with a TV tuner in my new
Windows
7 computer with Jaws 13, but no go. My ISP, Comcast, says now I will
only



be
able to work this with one of their cards, which I will be having
installed on Wednesday January 4. This will be replacing my Set Top
Box, so I'll be paying rent on it each month, just like I have done
on the Set Top Box.

What ISP provider do you have? What card are you successfully using
on what computer?

Many thanks for any

Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2012-01-05 Thread Gary Wood
I'm sorry that everyone doesn't have this.  I'm wondering if there could be 
a solution using the IPhone or IPad, and your cable provider.  Just a 
thought.
- Original Message - 
From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


I heard about that, but it might be a long time before it gets down to 
Wisconsin, unless some of the stations here already pass it and don't 
really know it.


- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood k8...@att.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 2:32 AM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


There's supposed to be a law through Congress to mandate described 
programs, first in larger markets, then eventually everywhere!
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 1:36 AM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


Hi. From my experience tv tuners will carry this signal if it exists. 
However, most cable providers and local networks don't carry the SAP 
feed or if they do it's used for different languages and not 
description. Not that there are many things described anymore.

bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific
Listen to the Shroom live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message - 
From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


Can this thing receive the audio description found on some network 
programming? I know this stuff still exists today even though many 
digital setups can't tune it in. I don't know if something needs to be 
in the hardware of that USB tuner stick to receive the described audio, 
the software, or both. I know TVSpeak from Codefactory on the software 
side is said to do it with some of these PC tuners, but can they all do 
this now? Also, I really don't want to put that much money on TVSpeak 
just to see if the local affiliates even send that part of the signal 
on. Will the included software with this thing, assuming any still work 
in XP, be able to at least give me enough properties about the channel 
to verify the presence or lack of the description track so I can tell 
if TVSpeak will be a good investment for that purpose?


Thanks.

- Original Message - 
From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Vicky,
I am using an AVerTV Hybrid Volar MAX TV Tuner Kit that I ordered from 
amazon.com.  It is a USB tuner that I use on my Windows 7 Home Premium 
64-bit computer to receive free over-the-air signals with an antenna. 
I don't have access to cable TV here.  I can get all of my local 
channels and one channel from about 70 miles away.  If I can get a 
little better antenna, I should be able to get the other channels that 
are available at the same distance.


Once I got Media Center set up using the NVDA screen reader, which 
worked the best but not perfectly with the setup, both JAWS and 
Window-Eyes work well with it.  I can schedule recordings of single 
programs or of series. I can also rewind live TV just like I would 
with a DVR.  It's also nice to be able to read the Program Guide in 
Media Center rather than having to look up TV listings on the 
Internet.


Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
- Original Message - 
From: vrvaug...@mailzone.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


Gary, This is Vicky. I had thought to work with a TV tuner in my new 
Windows 7 computer with Jaws 13, but no go. My ISP, Comcast, says now 
I will only be able to work this with one of their cards, which I 
will be having installed on Wednesday January 4. This will be 
replacing my Set Top Box, so I'll be paying rent on it each month, 
just like I have done on the Set Top Box.


What ISP provider do you have? What card are you successfully using 
on what computer?


Many thanks for any help! Vicky
- Original Message - 
From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Mary,
In my previous post, I said that I didn't have any experience 
setting up Media Center in Windows 7; now I do.  Sighted assistance 
would definitely be preferred, but if none is available, I would 
suggest that the NVDA screen reader

RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2012-01-04 Thread Hamit Campos
Well, it is part of it, I mean, that's partially why I jumped in when it
first came up, because I wanted to get started on doing my homework on all
things I need to know to build my home theater PC when WIN 8 is out. I just
wanted to figure out if putting a TV toner in the PC was still worth it. So
yeah, this is in a sence part of the idea.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of David Tanner
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 11:59 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

How does discussion of accessible home theater fit with all of this?  That
is a discussion I would like to be a part of too.  There are so many of the
systems that are totally unaccessible that all you can really do is have a
sighted person set it up for you because of all the menus and choices that
need to be set and we can't access them.
- Original Message -
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:45 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Yeah, I know. If there where a Media Center list then maybe. But 
 that's the thing I'm interested in too. Watching cable TV on the PC. 
 Specificly it would be a Dell XPS-8300. What I'm interested in knowing 
 is will it still work. But see the problem is you have to then start 
 talking about the different carriers, Comcast, ATT Verison and the 
 like. That's where Tom said it's too deep. I kind of knew it all 
 along, but if you want to find out what I want to find out, you have 
 no choice but get into it that way. But yeah, I got the point though, 
 Audio is the main point on this list, but even then you can go too 
 deep. I had to or at least I felt it was wiser for me to take my 
 discussion about HDMI audio with Dain off list because we were going 
 to discuss graphics cards for a bit. I figured that might be a little 
 too much. But yeah, let's see what Tom says, but a Windows Media 
 Center kind of list would really be where this discussion really 
 belongs I guess.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of David Tanner
 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 11:32 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

 I'm interested, but I want something that makes shows on cable 
 accessible and that seems to be farther away than access to local TV.

 I would agree that there is a lot of interest, and I understand how it 
 might be contriversial on a list primarily geared to the discussion of 
 audio.
 The
 problem is that I wonder how many folks would subscribe to a list that 
 only delt with discussion of the topic we are talking about.  My guess 
 is that it would take a lot of publicity to get may people.

 - Original Message -
 From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:41 PM
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Hi. I'm still very interested in this topic and wish we could discuss 
 it further. I know it's a little out-of-the-scope of things on this 
 list but I think people are interested in this topic like myself. So 
 I beg Tom to let us delve in to this. I myself am tired of paying 
 over 130 bucks for these services for 75 percent of it to be 
 inaccessible. If I'm the only one that feels this way than I'll bow my
head and not mention it again.
 thanks
 bb
 Brett Boyer
 Audio Production and voice over
 http://brettboyer.voices.com
 Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
 Check out my radio show at my new home:
 http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
 every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom 
 live!
 http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
 - Original Message -
 From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:23 PM
 Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Yeah, this right. You need a TV toner that you can put the Comcast 
 card into. I forgot about this. But when I talked to them, they said 
 it should work just fine like it use to. Again, if you all want to 
 go deeper, which

 I
 would want to, E-mail me off list because when you get into things 
 like Comcast and the like, I guess we are going beyond the scope of the
list.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of vrvaug...@mailzone.com
 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:20 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

 Gary, This is Vicky. I had thought to work with a TV tuner in my new 
 Windows
 7 computer with Jaws 13, but no go. My ISP, Comcast, says now I will 
 only

 be
 able to work this with one of their cards, which I will be having 
 installed

Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2012-01-04 Thread vrvaughan
Bret, would you and Hamit send me your emails in a written out form and 
anyone else who wants to continue this topic? I'll then try to keep everyone 
in the loop.


Vicky Vaughan
email:
vrvaug...@mailzone.com
Thanks to anyone who wants to wade in on this! Vicky
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


Hi. I'm still very interested in this topic and wish we could discuss it 
further. I know it's a little out-of-the-scope of things on this list but 
I think people are interested in this topic like myself. So I beg Tom to 
let us delve in to this. I myself am tired of paying over 130 bucks for 
these services for 75 percent of it to be inaccessible. If I'm the only 
one that feels this way than I'll bow my head and not mention it again.

thanks
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific
Listen to the Shroom live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message - 
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:23 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Yeah, this right. You need a TV toner that you can put the Comcast card
into. I forgot about this. But when I talked to them, they said it should
work just fine like it use to. Again, if you all want to go deeper, which 
I

would want to, E-mail me off list because when you get into things like
Comcast and the like, I guess we are going beyond the scope of the list.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of vrvaug...@mailzone.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:20 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Gary, This is Vicky. I had thought to work with a TV tuner in my new 
Windows
7 computer with Jaws 13, but no go. My ISP, Comcast, says now I will only 
be
able to work this with one of their cards, which I will be having 
installed

on Wednesday January 4. This will be replacing my Set Top Box, so I'll be
paying rent on it each month, just like I have done on the Set Top Box.

What ISP provider do you have? What card are you successfully using on 
what

computer?

Many thanks for any help! Vicky
- Original Message -
From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Mary,
In my previous post, I said that I didn't have any experience setting up
Media Center in Windows 7; now I do.  Sighted assistance would 
definitely

be preferred, but if none is available, I would suggest that the NVDA
screen reader would be the best choice for tackling the setup screens. 
I
didn't get anything with Window-Eyes.  the OCR in JAWS for Windows 13 
did

give me some usable text, but having to Use OCR on every screen gets
rather tedious. NVDA seems to read the setup screens pretty well, but 
you

do need to know how to get it to speak the necessary information.

Once set up, you can use your screen reader of choice to access the
Program Guide.  I just press Spacebar to get a particular channel in the
Guide to play or pause.  Page Up and Page Down can be used to change
channels.

I'm enjoying having TV on my computer.  I'll have to check out the
recording features next.

Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
- Original Message - 
From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Oh, there is no way I'm paying that much for a tv app. Forget it. Do
you have experience with the Win media set up under win 7, Gary?

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RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2012-01-04 Thread Hamit Campos
Well, mine is hamitcam...@gmail.com.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of vrvaug...@mailzone.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 5:16 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Bret, would you and Hamit send me your emails in a written out form and
anyone else who wants to continue this topic? I'll then try to keep everyone
in the loop.

Vicky Vaughan
email:
vrvaug...@mailzone.com
Thanks to anyone who wants to wade in on this! Vicky
- Original Message -
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Hi. I'm still very interested in this topic and wish we could discuss it 
 further. I know it's a little out-of-the-scope of things on this list but 
 I think people are interested in this topic like myself. So I beg Tom to 
 let us delve in to this. I myself am tired of paying over 130 bucks for 
 these services for 75 percent of it to be inaccessible. If I'm the only 
 one that feels this way than I'll bow my head and not mention it again.
 thanks
 bb
 Brett Boyer
 Audio Production and voice over
 http://brettboyer.voices.com
 Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
 Check out my radio show at my new home:
 http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
 every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific
 Listen to the Shroom live!
 http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
 - Original Message - 
 From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:23 PM
 Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Yeah, this right. You need a TV toner that you can put the Comcast card
 into. I forgot about this. But when I talked to them, they said it should
 work just fine like it use to. Again, if you all want to go deeper, which

 I
 would want to, E-mail me off list because when you get into things like
 Comcast and the like, I guess we are going beyond the scope of the list.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of vrvaug...@mailzone.com
 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:20 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

 Gary, This is Vicky. I had thought to work with a TV tuner in my new 
 Windows
 7 computer with Jaws 13, but no go. My ISP, Comcast, says now I will only

 be
 able to work this with one of their cards, which I will be having 
 installed
 on Wednesday January 4. This will be replacing my Set Top Box, so I'll be
 paying rent on it each month, just like I have done on the Set Top Box.

 What ISP provider do you have? What card are you successfully using on 
 what
 computer?

 Many thanks for any help! Vicky
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:52 PM
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Mary,
 In my previous post, I said that I didn't have any experience setting up
 Media Center in Windows 7; now I do.  Sighted assistance would 
 definitely
 be preferred, but if none is available, I would suggest that the NVDA
 screen reader would be the best choice for tackling the setup screens. 
 I
 didn't get anything with Window-Eyes.  the OCR in JAWS for Windows 13 
 did
 give me some usable text, but having to Use OCR on every screen gets
 rather tedious. NVDA seems to read the setup screens pretty well, but 
 you
 do need to know how to get it to speak the necessary information.

 Once set up, you can use your screen reader of choice to access the
 Program Guide.  I just press Spacebar to get a particular channel in the
 Guide to play or pause.  Page Up and Page Down can be used to change
 channels.

 I'm enjoying having TV on my computer.  I'll have to check out the
 recording features next.

 Gary King
 w4...@bellsouth.net
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:29 PM
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Oh, there is no way I'm paying that much for a tv app. Forget it. Do
 you have experience with the Win media set up under win 7, Gary?

 Mary



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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2012-01-03 Thread vrvaughan
Gary, This is Vicky. I had thought to work with a TV tuner in my new Windows 
7 computer with Jaws 13, but no go. My ISP, Comcast, says now I will only be 
able to work this with one of their cards, which I will be having installed 
on Wednesday January 4. This will be replacing my Set Top Box, so I'll be 
paying rent on it each month, just like I have done on the Set Top Box.


What ISP provider do you have? What card are you successfully using on what 
computer?


Many thanks for any help! Vicky
- Original Message - 
From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Mary,
In my previous post, I said that I didn't have any experience setting up 
Media Center in Windows 7; now I do.  Sighted assistance would definitely 
be preferred, but if none is available, I would suggest that the NVDA 
screen reader would be the best choice for tackling the setup screens.  I 
didn't get anything with Window-Eyes.  the OCR in JAWS for Windows 13 did 
give me some usable text, but having to Use OCR on every screen gets 
rather tedious. NVDA seems to read the setup screens pretty well, but you 
do need to know how to get it to speak the necessary information.


Once set up, you can use your screen reader of choice to access the 
Program Guide.  I just press Spacebar to get a particular channel in the 
Guide to play or pause.  Page Up and Page Down can be used to change 
channels.


I'm enjoying having TV on my computer.  I'll have to check out the 
recording features next.


Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
- Original Message - 
From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Oh, there is no way I'm paying that much for a tv app. Forget it. Do
you have experience with the Win media set up under win 7, Gary?

Mary



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RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2012-01-03 Thread Hamit Campos
Yeah, this right. You need a TV toner that you can put the Comcast card
into. I forgot about this. But when I talked to them, they said it should
work just fine like it use to. Again, if you all want to go deeper, which I
would want to, E-mail me off list because when you get into things like
Comcast and the like, I guess we are going beyond the scope of the list.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of vrvaug...@mailzone.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:20 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Gary, This is Vicky. I had thought to work with a TV tuner in my new Windows
7 computer with Jaws 13, but no go. My ISP, Comcast, says now I will only be
able to work this with one of their cards, which I will be having installed
on Wednesday January 4. This will be replacing my Set Top Box, so I'll be
paying rent on it each month, just like I have done on the Set Top Box.

What ISP provider do you have? What card are you successfully using on what
computer?

Many thanks for any help! Vicky
- Original Message -
From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Mary,
 In my previous post, I said that I didn't have any experience setting up 
 Media Center in Windows 7; now I do.  Sighted assistance would definitely 
 be preferred, but if none is available, I would suggest that the NVDA 
 screen reader would be the best choice for tackling the setup screens.  I 
 didn't get anything with Window-Eyes.  the OCR in JAWS for Windows 13 did 
 give me some usable text, but having to Use OCR on every screen gets 
 rather tedious. NVDA seems to read the setup screens pretty well, but you 
 do need to know how to get it to speak the necessary information.

 Once set up, you can use your screen reader of choice to access the 
 Program Guide.  I just press Spacebar to get a particular channel in the 
 Guide to play or pause.  Page Up and Page Down can be used to change 
 channels.

 I'm enjoying having TV on my computer.  I'll have to check out the 
 recording features next.

 Gary King
 w4...@bellsouth.net
 - Original Message - 
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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2012-01-03 Thread Brett Boyer
Hi. I'm still very interested in this topic and wish we could discuss it 
further. I know it's a little out-of-the-scope of things on this list but I 
think people are interested in this topic like myself. So I beg Tom to let 
us delve in to this. I myself am tired of paying over 130 bucks for these 
services for 75 percent of it to be inaccessible. If I'm the only one that 
feels this way than I'll bow my head and not mention it again.

thanks
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific
Listen to the Shroom live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message - 
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:23 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Yeah, this right. You need a TV toner that you can put the Comcast card
into. I forgot about this. But when I talked to them, they said it should
work just fine like it use to. Again, if you all want to go deeper, which 
I

would want to, E-mail me off list because when you get into things like
Comcast and the like, I guess we are going beyond the scope of the list.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of vrvaug...@mailzone.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:20 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Gary, This is Vicky. I had thought to work with a TV tuner in my new 
Windows
7 computer with Jaws 13, but no go. My ISP, Comcast, says now I will only 
be
able to work this with one of their cards, which I will be having 
installed

on Wednesday January 4. This will be replacing my Set Top Box, so I'll be
paying rent on it each month, just like I have done on the Set Top Box.

What ISP provider do you have? What card are you successfully using on 
what

computer?

Many thanks for any help! Vicky
- Original Message -
From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Mary,
In my previous post, I said that I didn't have any experience setting up
Media Center in Windows 7; now I do.  Sighted assistance would definitely
be preferred, but if none is available, I would suggest that the NVDA
screen reader would be the best choice for tackling the setup screens.  I
didn't get anything with Window-Eyes.  the OCR in JAWS for Windows 13 did
give me some usable text, but having to Use OCR on every screen gets
rather tedious. NVDA seems to read the setup screens pretty well, but you
do need to know how to get it to speak the necessary information.

Once set up, you can use your screen reader of choice to access the
Program Guide.  I just press Spacebar to get a particular channel in the
Guide to play or pause.  Page Up and Page Down can be used to change
channels.

I'm enjoying having TV on my computer.  I'll have to check out the
recording features next.

Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
- Original Message - 
From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Oh, there is no way I'm paying that much for a tv app. Forget it. Do
you have experience with the Win media set up under win 7, Gary?

Mary



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RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2012-01-03 Thread Hamit Campos
Well, let's see what he says because I'ed love to see if it can still be
donwe and how. But yeah, that's my thing, how doible is tit still? How good
does it work? Stuff like that. But yeah, let's see what Tom says then.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 9:41 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Hi. I'm still very interested in this topic and wish we could discuss it
further. I know it's a little out-of-the-scope of things on this list but I
think people are interested in this topic like myself. So I beg Tom to let
us delve in to this. I myself am tired of paying over 130 bucks for these
services for 75 percent of it to be inaccessible. If I'm the only one that
feels this way than I'll bow my head and not mention it again.
thanks
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message -
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:23 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Yeah, this right. You need a TV toner that you can put the Comcast 
 card into. I forgot about this. But when I talked to them, they said 
 it should work just fine like it use to. Again, if you all want to go 
 deeper, which I would want to, E-mail me off list because when you get 
 into things like Comcast and the like, I guess we are going beyond the 
 scope of the list.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of vrvaug...@mailzone.com
 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:20 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

 Gary, This is Vicky. I had thought to work with a TV tuner in my new 
 Windows
 7 computer with Jaws 13, but no go. My ISP, Comcast, says now I will 
 only be able to work this with one of their cards, which I will be 
 having installed on Wednesday January 4. This will be replacing my Set 
 Top Box, so I'll be paying rent on it each month, just like I have 
 done on the Set Top Box.

 What ISP provider do you have? What card are you successfully using on 
 what computer?

 Many thanks for any help! Vicky
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:52 PM
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Mary,
 In my previous post, I said that I didn't have any experience setting 
 up Media Center in Windows 7; now I do.  Sighted assistance would 
 definitely be preferred, but if none is available, I would suggest 
 that the NVDA screen reader would be the best choice for tackling the 
 setup screens.  I didn't get anything with Window-Eyes.  the OCR in 
 JAWS for Windows 13 did give me some usable text, but having to Use 
 OCR on every screen gets rather tedious. NVDA seems to read the setup 
 screens pretty well, but you do need to know how to get it to speak the
necessary information.

 Once set up, you can use your screen reader of choice to access the 
 Program Guide.  I just press Spacebar to get a particular channel in 
 the Guide to play or pause.  Page Up and Page Down can be used to 
 change channels.

 I'm enjoying having TV on my computer.  I'll have to check out the 
 recording features next.

 Gary King
 w4...@bellsouth.net
 - Original Message -
 From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:29 PM
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Oh, there is no way I'm paying that much for a tv app. Forget it. Do 
 you have experience with the Win media set up under win 7, Gary?

 Mary



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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2012-01-03 Thread David Tanner
I'm interested, but I want something that makes shows on cable accessible 
and that seems to be farther away than access to local TV.


I would agree that there is a lot of interest, and I understand how it might 
be contriversial on a list primarily geared to the discussion of audio.  The 
problem is that I wonder how many folks would subscribe to a list that only 
delt with discussion of the topic we are talking about.  My guess is that it 
would take a lot of publicity to get may people.


- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


Hi. I'm still very interested in this topic and wish we could discuss it 
further. I know it's a little out-of-the-scope of things on this list but 
I think people are interested in this topic like myself. So I beg Tom to 
let us delve in to this. I myself am tired of paying over 130 bucks for 
these services for 75 percent of it to be inaccessible. If I'm the only 
one that feels this way than I'll bow my head and not mention it again.

thanks
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific
Listen to the Shroom live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message - 
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:23 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Yeah, this right. You need a TV toner that you can put the Comcast card
into. I forgot about this. But when I talked to them, they said it should
work just fine like it use to. Again, if you all want to go deeper, which 
I

would want to, E-mail me off list because when you get into things like
Comcast and the like, I guess we are going beyond the scope of the list.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of vrvaug...@mailzone.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:20 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Gary, This is Vicky. I had thought to work with a TV tuner in my new 
Windows
7 computer with Jaws 13, but no go. My ISP, Comcast, says now I will only 
be
able to work this with one of their cards, which I will be having 
installed

on Wednesday January 4. This will be replacing my Set Top Box, so I'll be
paying rent on it each month, just like I have done on the Set Top Box.

What ISP provider do you have? What card are you successfully using on 
what

computer?

Many thanks for any help! Vicky
- Original Message -
From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Mary,
In my previous post, I said that I didn't have any experience setting up
Media Center in Windows 7; now I do.  Sighted assistance would 
definitely

be preferred, but if none is available, I would suggest that the NVDA
screen reader would be the best choice for tackling the setup screens. 
I
didn't get anything with Window-Eyes.  the OCR in JAWS for Windows 13 
did

give me some usable text, but having to Use OCR on every screen gets
rather tedious. NVDA seems to read the setup screens pretty well, but 
you

do need to know how to get it to speak the necessary information.

Once set up, you can use your screen reader of choice to access the
Program Guide.  I just press Spacebar to get a particular channel in the
Guide to play or pause.  Page Up and Page Down can be used to change
channels.

I'm enjoying having TV on my computer.  I'll have to check out the
recording features next.

Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
- Original Message - 
From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Oh, there is no way I'm paying that much for a tv app. Forget it. Do
you have experience with the Win media set up under win 7, Gary?

Mary



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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2012-01-03 Thread Gary King

Vicky,
I am using an AVerTV Hybrid Volar MAX TV Tuner Kit that I ordered from 
amazon.com.  It is a USB tuner that I use on my Windows 7 Home Premium 
64-bit computer to receive free over-the-air signals with an antenna.  I 
don't have access to cable TV here.  I can get all of my local channels and 
one channel from about 70 miles away.  If I can get a little better antenna, 
I should be able to get the other channels that are available at the same 
distance.


Once I got Media Center set up using the NVDA screen reader, which worked 
the best but not perfectly with the setup, both JAWS and Window-Eyes work 
well with it.  I can schedule recordings of single programs or of series.  I 
can also rewind live TV just like I would with a DVR.  It's also nice to be 
able to read the Program Guide in Media Center rather than having to look up 
TV listings on the Internet.


Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
- Original Message - 
From: vrvaug...@mailzone.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


Gary, This is Vicky. I had thought to work with a TV tuner in my new 
Windows 7 computer with Jaws 13, but no go. My ISP, Comcast, says now I 
will only be able to work this with one of their cards, which I will be 
having installed on Wednesday January 4. This will be replacing my Set Top 
Box, so I'll be paying rent on it each month, just like I have done on the 
Set Top Box.


What ISP provider do you have? What card are you successfully using on 
what computer?


Many thanks for any help! Vicky
- Original Message - 
From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Mary,
In my previous post, I said that I didn't have any experience setting up 
Media Center in Windows 7; now I do.  Sighted assistance would definitely 
be preferred, but if none is available, I would suggest that the NVDA 
screen reader would be the best choice for tackling the setup screens.  I 
didn't get anything with Window-Eyes.  the OCR in JAWS for Windows 13 did 
give me some usable text, but having to Use OCR on every screen gets 
rather tedious. NVDA seems to read the setup screens pretty well, but you 
do need to know how to get it to speak the necessary information.


Once set up, you can use your screen reader of choice to access the 
Program Guide.  I just press Spacebar to get a particular channel in the 
Guide to play or pause.  Page Up and Page Down can be used to change 
channels.


I'm enjoying having TV on my computer.  I'll have to check out the 
recording features next.


Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
- Original Message - 
From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Oh, there is no way I'm paying that much for a tv app. Forget it. Do
you have experience with the Win media set up under win 7, Gary?

Mary



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RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2012-01-03 Thread Hamit Campos
Yeah, I know. If there where a Media Center list then maybe. But that's the
thing I'm interested in too. Watching cable TV on the PC. Specificly it
would be a Dell XPS-8300. What I'm interested in knowing is will it still
work. But see the problem is you have to then start talking about the
different carriers, Comcast, ATT Verison and the like. That's where Tom
said it's too deep. I kind of knew it all along, but if you want to find out
what I want to find out, you have no choice but get into it that way. But
yeah, I got the point though, Audio is the main point on this list, but even
then you can go too deep. I had to or at least I felt it was wiser for me to
take my discussion about HDMI audio with Dain off list because we were going
to discuss graphics cards for a bit. I figured that might be a little too
much. But yeah, let's see what Tom says, but a Windows Media Center kind of
list would really be where this discussion really belongs I guess.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of David Tanner
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 11:32 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

I'm interested, but I want something that makes shows on cable accessible
and that seems to be farther away than access to local TV.

I would agree that there is a lot of interest, and I understand how it might
be contriversial on a list primarily geared to the discussion of audio.  The
problem is that I wonder how many folks would subscribe to a list that only
delt with discussion of the topic we are talking about.  My guess is that it
would take a lot of publicity to get may people.

- Original Message -
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Hi. I'm still very interested in this topic and wish we could discuss it 
 further. I know it's a little out-of-the-scope of things on this list but 
 I think people are interested in this topic like myself. So I beg Tom to 
 let us delve in to this. I myself am tired of paying over 130 bucks for 
 these services for 75 percent of it to be inaccessible. If I'm the only 
 one that feels this way than I'll bow my head and not mention it again.
 thanks
 bb
 Brett Boyer
 Audio Production and voice over
 http://brettboyer.voices.com
 Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
 Check out my radio show at my new home:
 http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
 every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific
 Listen to the Shroom live!
 http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
 - Original Message - 
 From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:23 PM
 Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Yeah, this right. You need a TV toner that you can put the Comcast card
 into. I forgot about this. But when I talked to them, they said it should
 work just fine like it use to. Again, if you all want to go deeper, which

 I
 would want to, E-mail me off list because when you get into things like
 Comcast and the like, I guess we are going beyond the scope of the list.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of vrvaug...@mailzone.com
 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:20 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

 Gary, This is Vicky. I had thought to work with a TV tuner in my new 
 Windows
 7 computer with Jaws 13, but no go. My ISP, Comcast, says now I will only

 be
 able to work this with one of their cards, which I will be having 
 installed
 on Wednesday January 4. This will be replacing my Set Top Box, so I'll be
 paying rent on it each month, just like I have done on the Set Top Box.

 What ISP provider do you have? What card are you successfully using on 
 what
 computer?

 Many thanks for any help! Vicky
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:52 PM
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Mary,
 In my previous post, I said that I didn't have any experience setting up
 Media Center in Windows 7; now I do.  Sighted assistance would 
 definitely
 be preferred, but if none is available, I would suggest that the NVDA
 screen reader would be the best choice for tackling the setup screens. 
 I
 didn't get anything with Window-Eyes.  the OCR in JAWS for Windows 13 
 did
 give me some usable text, but having to Use OCR on every screen gets
 rather tedious. NVDA seems to read the setup screens pretty well, but 
 you
 do need to know how to get it to speak the necessary information.

 Once set up, you can use your screen reader of choice to access the
 Program Guide.  I just press Spacebar to get a particular

Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2012-01-03 Thread David Tanner
How does discussion of accessible home theater fit with all of this?  That 
is a discussion I would like to be a part of too.  There are so many of the 
systems that are totally unaccessible that all you can really do is have a 
sighted person set it up for you because of all the menus and choices that 
need to be set and we can't access them.
- Original Message - 
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:45 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


Yeah, I know. If there where a Media Center list then maybe. But that's 
the

thing I'm interested in too. Watching cable TV on the PC. Specificly it
would be a Dell XPS-8300. What I'm interested in knowing is will it still
work. But see the problem is you have to then start talking about the
different carriers, Comcast, ATT Verison and the like. That's where Tom
said it's too deep. I kind of knew it all along, but if you want to find 
out

what I want to find out, you have no choice but get into it that way. But
yeah, I got the point though, Audio is the main point on this list, but 
even
then you can go too deep. I had to or at least I felt it was wiser for me 
to
take my discussion about HDMI audio with Dain off list because we were 
going

to discuss graphics cards for a bit. I figured that might be a little too
much. But yeah, let's see what Tom says, but a Windows Media Center kind 
of

list would really be where this discussion really belongs I guess.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of David Tanner
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 11:32 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

I'm interested, but I want something that makes shows on cable accessible
and that seems to be farther away than access to local TV.

I would agree that there is a lot of interest, and I understand how it 
might
be contriversial on a list primarily geared to the discussion of audio. 
The
problem is that I wonder how many folks would subscribe to a list that 
only
delt with discussion of the topic we are talking about.  My guess is that 
it

would take a lot of publicity to get may people.

- Original Message -
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Hi. I'm still very interested in this topic and wish we could discuss it
further. I know it's a little out-of-the-scope of things on this list but
I think people are interested in this topic like myself. So I beg Tom to
let us delve in to this. I myself am tired of paying over 130 bucks for
these services for 75 percent of it to be inaccessible. If I'm the only
one that feels this way than I'll bow my head and not mention it again.
thanks
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific
Listen to the Shroom live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message - 
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:23 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Yeah, this right. You need a TV toner that you can put the Comcast card
into. I forgot about this. But when I talked to them, they said it 
should
work just fine like it use to. Again, if you all want to go deeper, 
which



I
would want to, E-mail me off list because when you get into things like
Comcast and the like, I guess we are going beyond the scope of the list.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of vrvaug...@mailzone.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:20 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Gary, This is Vicky. I had thought to work with a TV tuner in my new
Windows
7 computer with Jaws 13, but no go. My ISP, Comcast, says now I will 
only



be
able to work this with one of their cards, which I will be having
installed
on Wednesday January 4. This will be replacing my Set Top Box, so I'll 
be

paying rent on it each month, just like I have done on the Set Top Box.

What ISP provider do you have? What card are you successfully using on
what
computer?

Many thanks for any help! Vicky
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From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Mary,
In my previous post, I said that I didn't have any experience setting 
up

Media Center in Windows 7; now I do.  Sighted assistance would
definitely
be preferred, but if none is available, I

Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2012-01-03 Thread Brent Harding
Can this thing receive the audio description found on some network 
programming? I know this stuff still exists today even though many digital 
setups can't tune it in. I don't know if something needs to be in the 
hardware of that USB tuner stick to receive the described audio, the 
software, or both. I know TVSpeak from Codefactory on the software side is 
said to do it with some of these PC tuners, but can they all do this now? 
Also, I really don't want to put that much money on TVSpeak just to see if 
the local affiliates even send that part of the signal on. Will the included 
software with this thing, assuming any still work in XP, be able to at least 
give me enough properties about the channel to verify the presence or lack 
of the description track so I can tell if TVSpeak will be a good investment 
for that purpose?


Thanks.

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From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Vicky,
I am using an AVerTV Hybrid Volar MAX TV Tuner Kit that I ordered from 
amazon.com.  It is a USB tuner that I use on my Windows 7 Home Premium 
64-bit computer to receive free over-the-air signals with an antenna.  I 
don't have access to cable TV here.  I can get all of my local channels 
and one channel from about 70 miles away.  If I can get a little better 
antenna, I should be able to get the other channels that are available at 
the same distance.


Once I got Media Center set up using the NVDA screen reader, which worked 
the best but not perfectly with the setup, both JAWS and Window-Eyes work 
well with it.  I can schedule recordings of single programs or of series. 
I can also rewind live TV just like I would with a DVR.  It's also nice to 
be able to read the Program Guide in Media Center rather than having to 
look up TV listings on the Internet.


Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


Gary, This is Vicky. I had thought to work with a TV tuner in my new 
Windows 7 computer with Jaws 13, but no go. My ISP, Comcast, says now I 
will only be able to work this with one of their cards, which I will be 
having installed on Wednesday January 4. This will be replacing my Set 
Top Box, so I'll be paying rent on it each month, just like I have done 
on the Set Top Box.


What ISP provider do you have? What card are you successfully using on 
what computer?


Many thanks for any help! Vicky
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From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Mary,
In my previous post, I said that I didn't have any experience setting up 
Media Center in Windows 7; now I do.  Sighted assistance would 
definitely be preferred, but if none is available, I would suggest that 
the NVDA screen reader would be the best choice for tackling the setup 
screens.  I didn't get anything with Window-Eyes.  the OCR in JAWS for 
Windows 13 did give me some usable text, but having to Use OCR on every 
screen gets rather tedious. NVDA seems to read the setup screens pretty 
well, but you do need to know how to get it to speak the necessary 
information.


Once set up, you can use your screen reader of choice to access the 
Program Guide.  I just press Spacebar to get a particular channel in the 
Guide to play or pause.  Page Up and Page Down can be used to change 
channels.


I'm enjoying having TV on my computer.  I'll have to check out the 
recording features next.


Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Oh, there is no way I'm paying that much for a tv app. Forget it. Do
you have experience with the Win media set up under win 7, Gary?

Mary



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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2012-01-03 Thread Brett Boyer
Hi. From my experience tv tuners will carry this signal if it exists. 
However, most cable providers and local networks don't carry the SAP feed or 
if they do it's used for different languages and not description. Not that 
there are many things described anymore.

bb
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From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


Can this thing receive the audio description found on some network 
programming? I know this stuff still exists today even though many digital 
setups can't tune it in. I don't know if something needs to be in the 
hardware of that USB tuner stick to receive the described audio, the 
software, or both. I know TVSpeak from Codefactory on the software side is 
said to do it with some of these PC tuners, but can they all do this now? 
Also, I really don't want to put that much money on TVSpeak just to see if 
the local affiliates even send that part of the signal on. Will the 
included software with this thing, assuming any still work in XP, be able 
to at least give me enough properties about the channel to verify the 
presence or lack of the description track so I can tell if TVSpeak will be 
a good investment for that purpose?


Thanks.

- Original Message - 
From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Vicky,
I am using an AVerTV Hybrid Volar MAX TV Tuner Kit that I ordered from 
amazon.com.  It is a USB tuner that I use on my Windows 7 Home Premium 
64-bit computer to receive free over-the-air signals with an antenna.  I 
don't have access to cable TV here.  I can get all of my local channels 
and one channel from about 70 miles away.  If I can get a little better 
antenna, I should be able to get the other channels that are available at 
the same distance.


Once I got Media Center set up using the NVDA screen reader, which worked 
the best but not perfectly with the setup, both JAWS and Window-Eyes work 
well with it.  I can schedule recordings of single programs or of series. 
I can also rewind live TV just like I would with a DVR.  It's also nice 
to be able to read the Program Guide in Media Center rather than having 
to look up TV listings on the Internet.


Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
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From: vrvaug...@mailzone.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


Gary, This is Vicky. I had thought to work with a TV tuner in my new 
Windows 7 computer with Jaws 13, but no go. My ISP, Comcast, says now I 
will only be able to work this with one of their cards, which I will be 
having installed on Wednesday January 4. This will be replacing my Set 
Top Box, so I'll be paying rent on it each month, just like I have done 
on the Set Top Box.


What ISP provider do you have? What card are you successfully using on 
what computer?


Many thanks for any help! Vicky
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From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Mary,
In my previous post, I said that I didn't have any experience setting 
up Media Center in Windows 7; now I do.  Sighted assistance would 
definitely be preferred, but if none is available, I would suggest that 
the NVDA screen reader would be the best choice for tackling the setup 
screens.  I didn't get anything with Window-Eyes.  the OCR in JAWS for 
Windows 13 did give me some usable text, but having to Use OCR on every 
screen gets rather tedious. NVDA seems to read the setup screens pretty 
well, but you do need to know how to get it to speak the necessary 
information.


Once set up, you can use your screen reader of choice to access the 
Program Guide.  I just press Spacebar to get a particular channel in 
the Guide to play or pause.  Page Up and Page Down can be used to 
change channels.


I'm enjoying having TV on my computer.  I'll have to check out the 
recording features next.


Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
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From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Oh, there is no way I'm paying that much for a tv app. Forget it. Do
you have experience with the Win media set up under win 7, Gary?

Mary



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RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-11 Thread Hamit Campos
What cable carrier do you have? Or are you just getting just the regular
over the air channals

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Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:53 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Mary,
In my previous post, I said that I didn't have any experience setting up
Media Center in Windows 7; now I do.  Sighted assistance would definitely be
preferred, but if none is available, I would suggest that the NVDA screen
reader would be the best choice for tackling the setup screens.  I didn't
get anything with Window-Eyes.  the OCR in JAWS for Windows 13 did give me
some usable text, but having to Use OCR on every screen gets rather tedious.

NVDA seems to read the setup screens pretty well, but you do need to know
how to get it to speak the necessary information.

Once set up, you can use your screen reader of choice to access the Program
Guide.  I just press Spacebar to get a particular channel in the Guide to
play or pause.  Page Up and Page Down can be used to change channels.

I'm enjoying having TV on my computer.  I'll have to check out the recording
features next.

Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Oh, there is no way I'm paying that much for a tv app. Forget it. Do
 you have experience with the Win media set up under win 7, Gary?

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RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-11 Thread Tom
Discussing cable carriers, television channels etc. is not 
pertinent to the PC Audio list.  Please keep posts audio
related.

Thank you,

Tom



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RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-11 Thread Hamit Campos
Cool man. Then, please E-mail me the answer off list whom ever I asked
thatA? I don't remember who it was. Thanks once again for letting me know
Thom. I like when people let me know when I've gone too deep into something,
I tend to do that, and I kind of knew it would happen.

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Discussing cable carriers, television channels etc. is not pertinent to the
PC Audio list.  Please keep posts audio related.

Thank you,

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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-11 Thread Gary King

Mary,
I got the

AVerTV Hybrid Volar MAX TV Tuner Kit

from AMAZON.COM.  It's a USB tuner, and it includes a short extension cable. 
I also bought the remote for use with Media Center that was mentioned on the 
same page.  It turned out to have a lot more buttons than I need or want.  I 
may not use it.


Windows 7 installed the drivers for the tuner, and then it was just a matter 
of setting up Media Center.  No software came with the tuner, and none is 
needed if you use Media Center.


Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
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Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Hi Gary,
Thanks for the report on your Win7 experience. I'm going to install the
NVDA screen reader, as I have heard good things about it, and it does
seem to offer some things that the other guys don't, and the price is
right. What kind of tv tuner did you get? I'm debating whether to get
the upgrade to the Dell, if that's what I end up buying, or to get a
usb stick add on.

Mary


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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-11 Thread Brett Boyer
Hi. Not arguing here just wondering why we've had this topic several times 
before and there wasn't any issues untill now.

bb
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Discussing cable carriers, television channels etc. is not
pertinent to the PC Audio list.  Please keep posts audio
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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-11 Thread Tom
Most of the messages on this thread were addressing a 
consumer electronics product.  The specific message I replied 
to was asking about cable carriers that has nothing to do 
with audio.

Tom

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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-11 Thread Hank Smith

Hello tom
is there a list where this topic could be better talked about on?
I don't want to get kicked off the list but I would like to talk about 
this further.

thanks
HankOn 12/11/2011 4:59 PM, Tom wrote:

Most of the messages on this thread were addressing a
consumer electronics product.  The specific message I replied
to was asking about cable carriers that has nothing to do
with audio.

Tom

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Hi. Not arguing here just wondering why we've had this topic
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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-10 Thread vrvaughan
I used Comcast and WMC and was able to change channels on my computer 
keyboard. I had an IR device that plugged into the cable box that provided 
the comunication between it and my computer.


I expect to set up my Windows 7 computer the same way.  If there are any 
differences, I'll tell the list.


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To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 6:53 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



I'm not sure, but see the thing is well at least with Comcast is that they
take over the TV. Here is what I really have to find out, well, any of us
that use Comcast do any ways if we want to use WMC. Actually, this would
even apply even to TV speak. Yeah, because even the little basicable box
that they give you for basic channals that looks like an ice creem 
sandwitch

does it too. Is using WMC with their survice even doable at all? See, you
must keep the TV or in this case WMC on channel 4. Or as far as WMC goes 
at
least in theory you would, and there fore only the box changes channel. 
Let
me make this cympler now that I think about it. You know what this is 
like?

It's like when you use to use a VCR. But now imagine it taking over
everything. So sorry to get long winded, but here is the end result. I
guess, you could watch TV theoretically, but how do you tell WMC which
channel to record from should you want to record? Because you see you must
keep it on channel 4, if you change it, you get nothing. You must change
channals with the box, and only the box. At least, that's how it works 
with
TVs anyways. So, I don't know. Like I said, I mean to call and ask them 
when

I'm about to get a new PC whin Windows 8 comes out. Or do any of you that
may also use Comcast want to volunteer? If so, thanks in advance.
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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Hank Smith
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 5:58 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

why don't they make a device that some how bounces the ir signal off the
cable box so all you can do is put the tv tuner on input1 or av input then
use the computers keyboard to control the box using the devices that 
bounces

their signal?
I mean is my idea so far out there or does something ixist?
Hank
On 12/9/2011 3:42 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:

I'll call them when I go to get my new Media Center PC whin Windows 8
comes out. But yeah, thanks for keeping me posted. This started last
April, it was when you had to go digital since the channals went
digital. Remember whin they got rid of annaloge TV, that's when it

happened.


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On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 4:17 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Hi. Oh boy sounds like a pain in the you know what. Anyway u might try
googling something like comcast and windows media center. You will see
older posts but if u know when they started this new thing there will
probably be some forums that discuss somewhere out there.
Good luck and if i here anything about it I will pass it along. Like i
said i'm using att and since the you-verse signal comes through
ethernet there is know way to get it to work with the pc.
hth
bb
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Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 2:02 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Ah okay then. Just wandered is all. Yeah like I said before, I'm
going to have to ask Comcast if this will work with them any more
since you don't really control the TV any more. You put the TV on
channel 4, then you have to call them and program it with the box and
you control everything from the box's remote supposedly. It doesn't
always really work though.

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Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 2:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

To be honest I have not listened to them. I talked to a few people on
this list a couple of years ago and per there suggestions I went off
and bought a usb tv tuner, hooked it up to my incomming cable, and
had a sighted friend help me with setup. It worked so unbelievably well.
Now that I am living in California we have att u-verse so I cannot
use my media center and I'm forced to memorize menus

RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-10 Thread Hamit Campos
Okay cool. Thanks. But yeah, I know you could do it before, it's just how
does one do it now? Well, let me and the list know how it goes then. This
will decide if it will be worth spending the extra money on a TV tooner or
not.

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On Behalf Of vrvaug...@mailzone.com
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 9:28 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

I used Comcast and WMC and was able to change channels on my computer
keyboard. I had an IR device that plugged into the cable box that provided
the comunication between it and my computer.

I expect to set up my Windows 7 computer the same way.  If there are any
differences, I'll tell the list.

Vicky- Original Message -
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 6:53 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 I'm not sure, but see the thing is well at least with Comcast is that they
 take over the TV. Here is what I really have to find out, well, any of us
 that use Comcast do any ways if we want to use WMC. Actually, this would
 even apply even to TV speak. Yeah, because even the little basicable box
 that they give you for basic channals that looks like an ice creem 
 sandwitch
 does it too. Is using WMC with their survice even doable at all? See, you
 must keep the TV or in this case WMC on channel 4. Or as far as WMC goes 
 at
 least in theory you would, and there fore only the box changes channel. 
 Let
 me make this cympler now that I think about it. You know what this is 
 like?
 It's like when you use to use a VCR. But now imagine it taking over
 everything. So sorry to get long winded, but here is the end result. I
 guess, you could watch TV theoretically, but how do you tell WMC which
 channel to record from should you want to record? Because you see you must
 keep it on channel 4, if you change it, you get nothing. You must change
 channals with the box, and only the box. At least, that's how it works 
 with
 TVs anyways. So, I don't know. Like I said, I mean to call and ask them 
 when
 I'm about to get a new PC whin Windows 8 comes out. Or do any of you that
 may also use Comcast want to volunteer? If so, thanks in advance.
 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Hank Smith
 Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 5:58 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

 why don't they make a device that some how bounces the ir signal off the
 cable box so all you can do is put the tv tuner on input1 or av input then
 use the computers keyboard to control the box using the devices that 
 bounces
 their signal?
 I mean is my idea so far out there or does something ixist?
 Hank
 On 12/9/2011 3:42 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
 I'll call them when I go to get my new Media Center PC whin Windows 8
 comes out. But yeah, thanks for keeping me posted. This started last
 April, it was when you had to go digital since the channals went
 digital. Remember whin they got rid of annaloge TV, that's when it
 happened.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
 Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 4:17 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

 Hi. Oh boy sounds like a pain in the you know what. Anyway u might try
 googling something like comcast and windows media center. You will see
 older posts but if u know when they started this new thing there will
 probably be some forums that discuss somewhere out there.
 Good luck and if i here anything about it I will pass it along. Like i
 said i'm using att and since the you-verse signal comes through
 ethernet there is know way to get it to work with the pc.
 hth
 bb
 Brett Boyer
 Audio Production and voice over
 http://brettboyer.voices.com
 Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
 Check out my radio show at my new home:
 http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
 every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom
 live!
 http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
 - Original Message -
 From: Hamit Camposhamitcam...@gmail.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 2:02 PM
 Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Ah okay then. Just wandered is all. Yeah like I said before, I'm
 going to have to ask Comcast if this will work with them any more
 since you don't really control the TV any more. You put the TV on
 channel 4, then you have to call them and program it with the box and
 you control everything from the box's remote supposedly. It doesn't
 always really work though.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org

Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-10 Thread Gary King

Mary,
In my previous post, I said that I didn't have any experience setting up 
Media Center in Windows 7; now I do.  Sighted assistance would definitely be 
preferred, but if none is available, I would suggest that the NVDA screen 
reader would be the best choice for tackling the setup screens.  I didn't 
get anything with Window-Eyes.  the OCR in JAWS for Windows 13 did give me 
some usable text, but having to Use OCR on every screen gets rather tedious. 
NVDA seems to read the setup screens pretty well, but you do need to know 
how to get it to speak the necessary information.


Once set up, you can use your screen reader of choice to access the Program 
Guide.  I just press Spacebar to get a particular channel in the Guide to 
play or pause.  Page Up and Page Down can be used to change channels.


I'm enjoying having TV on my computer.  I'll have to check out the recording 
features next.


Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Oh, there is no way I'm paying that much for a tv app. Forget it. Do
you have experience with the Win media set up under win 7, Gary?

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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-10 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Gary,
Thanks for the report on your Win7 experience. I'm going to install the
NVDA screen reader, as I have heard good things about it, and it does
seem to offer some things that the other guys don't, and the price is
right. What kind of tv tuner did you get? I'm debating whether to get
the upgrade to the Dell, if that's what I end up buying, or to get a
usb stick add on. 

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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-10 Thread Hank Smith

Hello
swhere do you get the ir device at?
Hank
On 12/10/2011 7:27 AM, vrvaug...@mailzone.com wrote:
I used Comcast and WMC and was able to change channels on my computer 
keyboard. I had an IR device that plugged into the cable box that 
provided the comunication between it and my computer.


I expect to set up my Windows 7 computer the same way.  If there are 
any differences, I'll tell the list.


Vicky- Original Message - From: Hamit Campos 
hamitcam...@gmail.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 6:53 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


I'm not sure, but see the thing is well at least with Comcast is that 
they
take over the TV. Here is what I really have to find out, well, any 
of us

that use Comcast do any ways if we want to use WMC. Actually, this would
even apply even to TV speak. Yeah, because even the little basicable box
that they give you for basic channals that looks like an ice creem 
sandwitch
does it too. Is using WMC with their survice even doable at all? See, 
you
must keep the TV or in this case WMC on channel 4. Or as far as WMC 
goes at
least in theory you would, and there fore only the box changes 
channel. Let
me make this cympler now that I think about it. You know what this is 
like?

It's like when you use to use a VCR. But now imagine it taking over
everything. So sorry to get long winded, but here is the end result. I
guess, you could watch TV theoretically, but how do you tell WMC which
channel to record from should you want to record? Because you see you 
must

keep it on channel 4, if you change it, you get nothing. You must change
channals with the box, and only the box. At least, that's how it 
works with
TVs anyways. So, I don't know. Like I said, I mean to call and ask 
them when
I'm about to get a new PC whin Windows 8 comes out. Or do any of you 
that

may also use Comcast want to volunteer? If so, thanks in advance.
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Hank Smith
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 5:58 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

why don't they make a device that some how bounces the ir signal off the
cable box so all you can do is put the tv tuner on input1 or av input 
then
use the computers keyboard to control the box using the devices that 
bounces

their signal?
I mean is my idea so far out there or does something ixist?
Hank
On 12/9/2011 3:42 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:

I'll call them when I go to get my new Media Center PC whin Windows 8
comes out. But yeah, thanks for keeping me posted. This started last
April, it was when you had to go digital since the channals went
digital. Remember whin they got rid of annaloge TV, that's when it

happened.


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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 4:17 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Hi. Oh boy sounds like a pain in the you know what. Anyway u might try
googling something like comcast and windows media center. You will see
older posts but if u know when they started this new thing there will
probably be some forums that discuss somewhere out there.
Good luck and if i here anything about it I will pass it along. Like i
said i'm using att and since the you-verse signal comes through
ethernet there is know way to get it to work with the pc.
hth
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom

live!

http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
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From: Hamit Camposhamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 2:02 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Ah okay then. Just wandered is all. Yeah like I said before, I'm
going to have to ask Comcast if this will work with them any more
since you don't really control the TV any more. You put the TV on
channel 4, then you have to call them and program it with the box and
you control everything from the box's remote supposedly. It doesn't
always really work though.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 2:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

To be honest I have not listened to them. I talked to a few people on
this list a couple of years ago and per there suggestions I went off
and bought a usb tv tuner, hooked it up to my incomming cable, and
had a sighted friend help me with setup. It worked so unbelievably 
well.

Now that I am living

Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-10 Thread Brett Boyer
Very cool. It was like a whole new world for me, not just to record at will 
but to look at what was on tv and decide if I'd like to see it. Maybe I'll 
get away from this att stuff and get real cable again.

bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific
Listen to the Shroom live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message - 
From: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Mary,
In my previous post, I said that I didn't have any experience setting up 
Media Center in Windows 7; now I do.  Sighted assistance would definitely 
be preferred, but if none is available, I would suggest that the NVDA 
screen reader would be the best choice for tackling the setup screens.  I 
didn't get anything with Window-Eyes.  the OCR in JAWS for Windows 13 did 
give me some usable text, but having to Use OCR on every screen gets 
rather tedious. NVDA seems to read the setup screens pretty well, but you 
do need to know how to get it to speak the necessary information.


Once set up, you can use your screen reader of choice to access the 
Program Guide.  I just press Spacebar to get a particular channel in the 
Guide to play or pause.  Page Up and Page Down can be used to change 
channels.


I'm enjoying having TV on my computer.  I'll have to check out the 
recording features next.


Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
- Original Message - 
From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Oh, there is no way I'm paying that much for a tv app. Forget it. Do
you have experience with the Win media set up under win 7, Gary?

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RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-09 Thread Hotscot72
Hello Brett, this is Interesting stuff. 
I have been looking for some kinda software to watch television here in the
UK, but it seems a dedicated TV tuner card is the best way to go.
I'm sure there are software packages to allow you to watch live television
on computer systems, but I do not know of any such programs myself. 

Just for the record, I have Sky satellite TV, 

Billy  

 

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
Sent: 09 December 2011 01:41
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Hi I have used media center with windows 7. Once set up it is perfect! I
mean perfect!
First of all, you get to have a guide like the sighted folks. Your channels
go down the left side of the table. When you want to see what's on that
channel simply hit right arrow and each show is listed. You can get more
info about a show, or if it's on right now just enter to go to that channel.

And you can see the whole line up for a few days by using your right arrow. 
I was amazed the first time. To think how cool it would be to have it like
that on a real tv.
The program is very usable by both jfw and window-eyes. The record settings,
the recorded shows, even the online tv stuff!
I think that 245 dollar program is really not worth the money. IMhO bb Brett
Boyer Audio Production and voice over http://brettboyer.voices.com Brett
Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
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From: vrvaug...@mailzone.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 When I had my XP, with USB TV tuner card, and was using Windows Media 
 Center, I could either use Page up to go up a channel number or Page 
 down to go down a number. I also could just type in the number to go 
 to it directly.

 I am hoping that windows 7, will be as easy to use.

 Vicky
 - Original Message -
 From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 12:27 PM
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Are you changing topics because I don't understand the question. With 
 a TV tuner card connected to your PC, you would change channels using 
 some media software on your PC. I think Windows Meda Center has been 
 mentioned on this list, but there are other options, such as Beyond TV.
 I'm not sure anymore what the accessible options are.

 I'm not sure what the options are with respect to controlling your 
 set top box, satellite box or cable box from your PC.

 On 08/12/11 10:04, Hank Smith wrote:
 hello
 how do you control the sat top box or the cable box with the 
 computer as far as changing channels etc?
 Hank
 On 12/8/2011 7:59 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
 You just need a TV tuner card. I know you can get internal cards 
 and external USB attached cards. You just plug an antenna, cable or 
 whatever into them.

 On 08/12/11 05:24, Howard Traxler wrote:
 What kind of hardware does one need to do TV whether cable or over 
 the air? Thanks.
 Howard
 - Original Message - From: Mary 
 Ottenmaryot...@comcast.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:15 PM
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Interesting, David, and thanks for the info on the Code Factory 
 product. I'd like to find something that works with a screen 
 reader rather than having to buy a separate application just to 
 get tv access, but it is worth looking into, I suppose.

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RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-09 Thread Hamit Campos
Yah, but would you say it's any easyer or harder than the XP one? Or hav you
not listened to the 2 pod casts that Larry did on blind cool tech? I mean,
from what you're saying, I guess it's about the same. Right?

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 8:41 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Hi I have used media center with windows 7. Once set up it is perfect! I
mean perfect!
First of all, you get to have a guide like the sighted folks. Your channels
go down the left side of the table. When you want to see what's on that
channel simply hit right arrow and each show is listed. You can get more
info about a show, or if it's on right now just enter to go to that channel.

And you can see the whole line up for a few days by using your right arrow. 
I was amazed the first time. To think how cool it would be to have it like
that on a real tv.
The program is very usable by both jfw and window-eyes. The record settings,
the recorded shows, even the online tv stuff!
I think that 245 dollar program is really not worth the money. IMhO bb Brett
Boyer Audio Production and voice over http://brettboyer.voices.com Brett
Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message -
From: vrvaug...@mailzone.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 When I had my XP, with USB TV tuner card, and was using Windows Media 
 Center, I could either use Page up to go up a channel number or Page 
 down to go down a number. I also could just type in the number to go 
 to it directly.

 I am hoping that windows 7, will be as easy to use.

 Vicky
 - Original Message -
 From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 12:27 PM
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Are you changing topics because I don't understand the question. With 
 a TV tuner card connected to your PC, you would change channels using 
 some media software on your PC. I think Windows Meda Center has been 
 mentioned on this list, but there are other options, such as Beyond TV.
 I'm not sure anymore what the accessible options are.

 I'm not sure what the options are with respect to controlling your 
 set top box, satellite box or cable box from your PC.

 On 08/12/11 10:04, Hank Smith wrote:
 hello
 how do you control the sat top box or the cable box with the 
 computer as far as changing channels etc?
 Hank
 On 12/8/2011 7:59 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
 You just need a TV tuner card. I know you can get internal cards 
 and external USB attached cards. You just plug an antenna, cable or 
 whatever into them.

 On 08/12/11 05:24, Howard Traxler wrote:
 What kind of hardware does one need to do TV whether cable or over 
 the air? Thanks.
 Howard
 - Original Message - From: Mary 
 Ottenmaryot...@comcast.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:15 PM
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Interesting, David, and thanks for the info on the Code Factory 
 product. I'd like to find something that works with a screen 
 reader rather than having to buy a separate application just to 
 get tv access, but it is worth looking into, I suppose.

 mary



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RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-09 Thread Hamit Campos
That's what Windows Media Center does, you use the computer as a TV.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Hotscot72
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 3:15 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Hello Brett, this is Interesting stuff. 
I have been looking for some kinda software to watch television here in the
UK, but it seems a dedicated TV tuner card is the best way to go.
I'm sure there are software packages to allow you to watch live television
on computer systems, but I do not know of any such programs myself. 

Just for the record, I have Sky satellite TV, 

Billy  

 

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
Sent: 09 December 2011 01:41
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Hi I have used media center with windows 7. Once set up it is perfect! I
mean perfect!
First of all, you get to have a guide like the sighted folks. Your channels
go down the left side of the table. When you want to see what's on that
channel simply hit right arrow and each show is listed. You can get more
info about a show, or if it's on right now just enter to go to that channel.

And you can see the whole line up for a few days by using your right arrow. 
I was amazed the first time. To think how cool it would be to have it like
that on a real tv.
The program is very usable by both jfw and window-eyes. The record settings,
the recorded shows, even the online tv stuff!
I think that 245 dollar program is really not worth the money. IMhO bb Brett
Boyer Audio Production and voice over http://brettboyer.voices.com Brett
Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message -
From: vrvaug...@mailzone.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 When I had my XP, with USB TV tuner card, and was using Windows Media 
 Center, I could either use Page up to go up a channel number or Page 
 down to go down a number. I also could just type in the number to go 
 to it directly.

 I am hoping that windows 7, will be as easy to use.

 Vicky
 - Original Message -
 From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 12:27 PM
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Are you changing topics because I don't understand the question. With 
 a TV tuner card connected to your PC, you would change channels using 
 some media software on your PC. I think Windows Meda Center has been 
 mentioned on this list, but there are other options, such as Beyond TV.
 I'm not sure anymore what the accessible options are.

 I'm not sure what the options are with respect to controlling your 
 set top box, satellite box or cable box from your PC.

 On 08/12/11 10:04, Hank Smith wrote:
 hello
 how do you control the sat top box or the cable box with the 
 computer as far as changing channels etc?
 Hank
 On 12/8/2011 7:59 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
 You just need a TV tuner card. I know you can get internal cards 
 and external USB attached cards. You just plug an antenna, cable or 
 whatever into them.

 On 08/12/11 05:24, Howard Traxler wrote:
 What kind of hardware does one need to do TV whether cable or over 
 the air? Thanks.
 Howard
 - Original Message - From: Mary 
 Ottenmaryot...@comcast.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:15 PM
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Interesting, David, and thanks for the info on the Code Factory 
 product. I'd like to find something that works with a screen 
 reader rather than having to buy a separate application just to 
 get tv access, but it is worth looking into, I suppose.

 mary



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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-09 Thread Brett Boyer
To be honest I have not listened to them. I talked to a few people on this 
list a couple of years ago and per there suggestions I went off and bought a 
usb tv tuner, hooked it up to my incomming cable, and had a sighted friend 
help me with setup. It worked so unbelievably well.
Now that I am living in California we have att u-verse so I cannot use my 
media center and I'm forced to memorize menus and such with the stupid cable 
box. I feel I should only have to pay a small percentage of this damn bill 
because I can't access more than half of the features.

Anyway sorry for the rant.
I guess the answer is no, but I really hate one word or one line answers.
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific
Listen to the Shroom live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message - 
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 6:28 AM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


Yah, but would you say it's any easyer or harder than the XP one? Or hav 
you

not listened to the 2 pod casts that Larry did on blind cool tech? I mean,
from what you're saying, I guess it's about the same. Right?

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 8:41 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Hi I have used media center with windows 7. Once set up it is perfect! I
mean perfect!
First of all, you get to have a guide like the sighted folks. Your 
channels

go down the left side of the table. When you want to see what's on that
channel simply hit right arrow and each show is listed. You can get more
info about a show, or if it's on right now just enter to go to that 
channel.


And you can see the whole line up for a few days by using your right 
arrow.

I was amazed the first time. To think how cool it would be to have it like
that on a real tv.
The program is very usable by both jfw and window-eyes. The record 
settings,

the recorded shows, even the online tv stuff!
I think that 245 dollar program is really not worth the money. IMhO bb 
Brett

Boyer Audio Production and voice over http://brettboyer.voices.com Brett
Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom 
live!

http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
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From: vrvaug...@mailzone.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



When I had my XP, with USB TV tuner card, and was using Windows Media
Center, I could either use Page up to go up a channel number or Page
down to go down a number. I also could just type in the number to go
to it directly.

I am hoping that windows 7, will be as easy to use.

Vicky
- Original Message -
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Are you changing topics because I don't understand the question. With
a TV tuner card connected to your PC, you would change channels using
some media software on your PC. I think Windows Meda Center has been
mentioned on this list, but there are other options, such as Beyond TV.
I'm not sure anymore what the accessible options are.

I'm not sure what the options are with respect to controlling your
set top box, satellite box or cable box from your PC.

On 08/12/11 10:04, Hank Smith wrote:

hello
how do you control the sat top box or the cable box with the
computer as far as changing channels etc?
Hank
On 12/8/2011 7:59 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

You just need a TV tuner card. I know you can get internal cards
and external USB attached cards. You just plug an antenna, cable or
whatever into them.

On 08/12/11 05:24, Howard Traxler wrote:

What kind of hardware does one need to do TV whether cable or over
the air? Thanks.
Howard
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Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Interesting, David, and thanks for the info on the Code Factory
product. I'd like to find something that works with a screen
reader rather than having to buy a separate application just to
get tv access, but it is worth looking into, I suppose.

mary



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RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-09 Thread Hamit Campos
Ah okay then. Just wandered is all. Yeah like I said before, I'm going to
have to ask Comcast if this will work with them any more since you don't
really control the TV any more. You put the TV on channel 4, then you have
to call them and program it with the box and you control everything from the
box's remote supposedly. It doesn't always really work though.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 2:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

To be honest I have not listened to them. I talked to a few people on this
list a couple of years ago and per there suggestions I went off and bought a
usb tv tuner, hooked it up to my incomming cable, and had a sighted friend
help me with setup. It worked so unbelievably well.
Now that I am living in California we have att u-verse so I cannot use my
media center and I'm forced to memorize menus and such with the stupid cable
box. I feel I should only have to pay a small percentage of this damn bill
because I can't access more than half of the features.
Anyway sorry for the rant.
I guess the answer is no, but I really hate one word or one line answers.
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message -
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 6:28 AM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Yah, but would you say it's any easyer or harder than the XP one? Or 
 hav you not listened to the 2 pod casts that Larry did on blind cool 
 tech? I mean, from what you're saying, I guess it's about the same. 
 Right?

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
 Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 8:41 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

 Hi I have used media center with windows 7. Once set up it is perfect! 
 I mean perfect!
 First of all, you get to have a guide like the sighted folks. Your 
 channels go down the left side of the table. When you want to see 
 what's on that channel simply hit right arrow and each show is listed. 
 You can get more info about a show, or if it's on right now just enter 
 to go to that channel.

 And you can see the whole line up for a few days by using your right 
 arrow.
 I was amazed the first time. To think how cool it would be to have it 
 like that on a real tv.
 The program is very usable by both jfw and window-eyes. The record 
 settings, the recorded shows, even the online tv stuff!
 I think that 245 dollar program is really not worth the money. IMhO bb 
 Brett Boyer Audio Production and voice over 
 http://brettboyer.voices.com Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
 Check out my radio show at my new home:
 http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
 every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom 
 live!
 http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
 - Original Message -
 From: vrvaug...@mailzone.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 4:50 PM
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 When I had my XP, with USB TV tuner card, and was using Windows Media
 Center, I could either use Page up to go up a channel number or Page
 down to go down a number. I also could just type in the number to go
 to it directly.

 I am hoping that windows 7, will be as easy to use.

 Vicky
 - Original Message -
 From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 12:27 PM
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Are you changing topics because I don't understand the question. With
 a TV tuner card connected to your PC, you would change channels using
 some media software on your PC. I think Windows Meda Center has been
 mentioned on this list, but there are other options, such as Beyond TV.
 I'm not sure anymore what the accessible options are.

 I'm not sure what the options are with respect to controlling your
 set top box, satellite box or cable box from your PC.

 On 08/12/11 10:04, Hank Smith wrote:
 hello
 how do you control the sat top box or the cable box with the
 computer as far as changing channels etc?
 Hank
 On 12/8/2011 7:59 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
 You just need a TV tuner card. I know you can get internal cards
 and external USB attached cards. You just plug an antenna, cable or
 whatever into them.

 On 08/12/11 05:24, Howard Traxler wrote:
 What kind of hardware does one need to do TV

Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-09 Thread Brett Boyer
Hi. Oh boy sounds like a pain in the you know what. Anyway u might try 
googling something like comcast and windows media center. You will see older 
posts but if u know when they started this new thing there will probably be 
some forums that discuss somewhere out there.
Good luck and if i here anything about it I will pass it along. Like i said 
i'm using att and since the you-verse signal comes through ethernet there 
is know way to get it to work with the pc.

hth
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific
Listen to the Shroom live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message - 
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 2:02 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Ah okay then. Just wandered is all. Yeah like I said before, I'm going to
have to ask Comcast if this will work with them any more since you don't
really control the TV any more. You put the TV on channel 4, then you have
to call them and program it with the box and you control everything from 
the

box's remote supposedly. It doesn't always really work though.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 2:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

To be honest I have not listened to them. I talked to a few people on this
list a couple of years ago and per there suggestions I went off and bought 
a

usb tv tuner, hooked it up to my incomming cable, and had a sighted friend
help me with setup. It worked so unbelievably well.
Now that I am living in California we have att u-verse so I cannot use my
media center and I'm forced to memorize menus and such with the stupid 
cable

box. I feel I should only have to pay a small percentage of this damn bill
because I can't access more than half of the features.
Anyway sorry for the rant.
I guess the answer is no, but I really hate one word or one line answers.
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom 
live!

http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message -
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 6:28 AM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Yah, but would you say it's any easyer or harder than the XP one? Or
hav you not listened to the 2 pod casts that Larry did on blind cool
tech? I mean, from what you're saying, I guess it's about the same.
Right?

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 8:41 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Hi I have used media center with windows 7. Once set up it is perfect!
I mean perfect!
First of all, you get to have a guide like the sighted folks. Your
channels go down the left side of the table. When you want to see
what's on that channel simply hit right arrow and each show is listed.
You can get more info about a show, or if it's on right now just enter
to go to that channel.

And you can see the whole line up for a few days by using your right
arrow.
I was amazed the first time. To think how cool it would be to have it
like that on a real tv.
The program is very usable by both jfw and window-eyes. The record
settings, the recorded shows, even the online tv stuff!
I think that 245 dollar program is really not worth the money. IMhO bb
Brett Boyer Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom
live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message -
From: vrvaug...@mailzone.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



When I had my XP, with USB TV tuner card, and was using Windows Media
Center, I could either use Page up to go up a channel number or Page
down to go down a number. I also could just type in the number to go
to it directly.

I am hoping that windows 7, will be as easy to use.

Vicky
- Original Message -
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: over the air

RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-09 Thread Hamit Campos
I'll call them when I go to get my new Media Center PC whin Windows 8 comes
out. But yeah, thanks for keeping me posted. This started last April, it was
when you had to go digital since the channals went digital. Remember whin
they got rid of annaloge TV, that's when it happened.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 4:17 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Hi. Oh boy sounds like a pain in the you know what. Anyway u might try
googling something like comcast and windows media center. You will see older
posts but if u know when they started this new thing there will probably be
some forums that discuss somewhere out there.
Good luck and if i here anything about it I will pass it along. Like i said
i'm using att and since the you-verse signal comes through ethernet there
is know way to get it to work with the pc.
hth
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message -
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 2:02 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Ah okay then. Just wandered is all. Yeah like I said before, I'm going 
 to have to ask Comcast if this will work with them any more since you 
 don't really control the TV any more. You put the TV on channel 4, 
 then you have to call them and program it with the box and you control 
 everything from the box's remote supposedly. It doesn't always really 
 work though.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
 Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 2:47 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

 To be honest I have not listened to them. I talked to a few people on 
 this list a couple of years ago and per there suggestions I went off 
 and bought a usb tv tuner, hooked it up to my incomming cable, and had 
 a sighted friend help me with setup. It worked so unbelievably well.
 Now that I am living in California we have att u-verse so I cannot 
 use my media center and I'm forced to memorize menus and such with the 
 stupid cable box. I feel I should only have to pay a small percentage 
 of this damn bill because I can't access more than half of the 
 features.
 Anyway sorry for the rant.
 I guess the answer is no, but I really hate one word or one line answers.
 bb
 Brett Boyer
 Audio Production and voice over
 http://brettboyer.voices.com
 Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
 Check out my radio show at my new home:
 http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
 every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom 
 live!
 http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
 - Original Message -
 From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 6:28 AM
 Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Yah, but would you say it's any easyer or harder than the XP one? Or 
 hav you not listened to the 2 pod casts that Larry did on blind cool 
 tech? I mean, from what you're saying, I guess it's about the same.
 Right?

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
 Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 8:41 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

 Hi I have used media center with windows 7. Once set up it is perfect!
 I mean perfect!
 First of all, you get to have a guide like the sighted folks. Your 
 channels go down the left side of the table. When you want to see 
 what's on that channel simply hit right arrow and each show is listed.
 You can get more info about a show, or if it's on right now just 
 enter to go to that channel.

 And you can see the whole line up for a few days by using your right 
 arrow.
 I was amazed the first time. To think how cool it would be to have it 
 like that on a real tv.
 The program is very usable by both jfw and window-eyes. The record 
 settings, the recorded shows, even the online tv stuff!
 I think that 245 dollar program is really not worth the money. IMhO 
 bb Brett Boyer Audio Production and voice over 
 http://brettboyer.voices.com Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
 Check out my radio show at my new home:
 http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
 every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom 
 live!
 http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
 - Original Message -
 From: vrvaug...@mailzone.com
 To: PC Audio

Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-09 Thread Hank Smith
why don't they make a device that some how bounces the ir signal off the 
cable box so all you can do is put the tv tuner on input1 or av input 
then use the computers keyboard to control the box using the devices 
that bounces their signal?

I mean is my idea so far out there or does something ixist?
Hank
On 12/9/2011 3:42 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:

I'll call them when I go to get my new Media Center PC whin Windows 8 comes
out. But yeah, thanks for keeping me posted. This started last April, it was
when you had to go digital since the channals went digital. Remember whin
they got rid of annaloge TV, that's when it happened.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 4:17 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Hi. Oh boy sounds like a pain in the you know what. Anyway u might try
googling something like comcast and windows media center. You will see older
posts but if u know when they started this new thing there will probably be
some forums that discuss somewhere out there.
Good luck and if i here anything about it I will pass it along. Like i said
i'm using att and since the you-verse signal comes through ethernet there
is know way to get it to work with the pc.
hth
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message -
From: Hamit Camposhamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 2:02 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Ah okay then. Just wandered is all. Yeah like I said before, I'm going
to have to ask Comcast if this will work with them any more since you
don't really control the TV any more. You put the TV on channel 4,
then you have to call them and program it with the box and you control
everything from the box's remote supposedly. It doesn't always really
work though.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 2:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

To be honest I have not listened to them. I talked to a few people on
this list a couple of years ago and per there suggestions I went off
and bought a usb tv tuner, hooked it up to my incomming cable, and had
a sighted friend help me with setup. It worked so unbelievably well.
Now that I am living in California we have att u-verse so I cannot
use my media center and I'm forced to memorize menus and such with the
stupid cable box. I feel I should only have to pay a small percentage
of this damn bill because I can't access more than half of the
features.
Anyway sorry for the rant.
I guess the answer is no, but I really hate one word or one line answers.
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom
live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message -
From: Hamit Camposhamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 6:28 AM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Yah, but would you say it's any easyer or harder than the XP one? Or
hav you not listened to the 2 pod casts that Larry did on blind cool
tech? I mean, from what you're saying, I guess it's about the same.
Right?

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 8:41 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Hi I have used media center with windows 7. Once set up it is perfect!
I mean perfect!
First of all, you get to have a guide like the sighted folks. Your
channels go down the left side of the table. When you want to see
what's on that channel simply hit right arrow and each show is listed.
You can get more info about a show, or if it's on right now just
enter to go to that channel.

And you can see the whole line up for a few days by using your right
arrow.
I was amazed the first time. To think how cool it would be to have it
like that on a real tv.
The program is very usable by both jfw and window-eyes. The record
settings, the recorded shows, even the online tv stuff!
I think that 245 dollar program is really not worth the money. IMhO
bb Brett Boyer Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio

RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-09 Thread Hotscot72
Thanks anyway Brett, back to the drawing board, 

Billy 

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
Sent: 09 December 2011 19:47
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

To be honest I have not listened to them. I talked to a few people on this
list a couple of years ago and per there suggestions I went off and bought a
usb tv tuner, hooked it up to my incomming cable, and had a sighted friend
help me with setup. It worked so unbelievably well.
Now that I am living in California we have att u-verse so I cannot use my
media center and I'm forced to memorize menus and such with the stupid cable
box. I feel I should only have to pay a small percentage of this damn bill
because I can't access more than half of the features.
Anyway sorry for the rant.
I guess the answer is no, but I really hate one word or one line answers.
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message -
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 6:28 AM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Yah, but would you say it's any easyer or harder than the XP one? Or 
 hav you not listened to the 2 pod casts that Larry did on blind cool 
 tech? I mean, from what you're saying, I guess it's about the same. 
 Right?

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
 Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 8:41 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

 Hi I have used media center with windows 7. Once set up it is perfect! 
 I mean perfect!
 First of all, you get to have a guide like the sighted folks. Your 
 channels go down the left side of the table. When you want to see 
 what's on that channel simply hit right arrow and each show is listed. 
 You can get more info about a show, or if it's on right now just enter 
 to go to that channel.

 And you can see the whole line up for a few days by using your right 
 arrow.
 I was amazed the first time. To think how cool it would be to have it 
 like that on a real tv.
 The program is very usable by both jfw and window-eyes. The record 
 settings, the recorded shows, even the online tv stuff!
 I think that 245 dollar program is really not worth the money. IMhO bb 
 Brett Boyer Audio Production and voice over 
 http://brettboyer.voices.com Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
 Check out my radio show at my new home:
 http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
 every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom 
 live!
 http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
 - Original Message -
 From: vrvaug...@mailzone.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 4:50 PM
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 When I had my XP, with USB TV tuner card, and was using Windows Media
 Center, I could either use Page up to go up a channel number or Page
 down to go down a number. I also could just type in the number to go
 to it directly.

 I am hoping that windows 7, will be as easy to use.

 Vicky
 - Original Message -
 From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 12:27 PM
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Are you changing topics because I don't understand the question. With
 a TV tuner card connected to your PC, you would change channels using
 some media software on your PC. I think Windows Meda Center has been
 mentioned on this list, but there are other options, such as Beyond TV.
 I'm not sure anymore what the accessible options are.

 I'm not sure what the options are with respect to controlling your
 set top box, satellite box or cable box from your PC.

 On 08/12/11 10:04, Hank Smith wrote:
 hello
 how do you control the sat top box or the cable box with the
 computer as far as changing channels etc?
 Hank
 On 12/8/2011 7:59 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
 You just need a TV tuner card. I know you can get internal cards
 and external USB attached cards. You just plug an antenna, cable or
 whatever into them.

 On 08/12/11 05:24, Howard Traxler wrote:
 What kind of hardware does one need to do TV whether cable or over
 the air? Thanks.
 Howard
 - Original Message - From: Mary
 Ottenmaryot...@comcast.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:15 PM
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Interesting, David, and thanks for the info

RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-09 Thread Hamit Campos
I'm not sure, but see the thing is well at least with Comcast is that they
take over the TV. Here is what I really have to find out, well, any of us
that use Comcast do any ways if we want to use WMC. Actually, this would
even apply even to TV speak. Yeah, because even the little basicable box
that they give you for basic channals that looks like an ice creem sandwitch
does it too. Is using WMC with their survice even doable at all? See, you
must keep the TV or in this case WMC on channel 4. Or as far as WMC goes at
least in theory you would, and there fore only the box changes channel. Let
me make this cympler now that I think about it. You know what this is like?
It's like when you use to use a VCR. But now imagine it taking over
everything. So sorry to get long winded, but here is the end result. I
guess, you could watch TV theoretically, but how do you tell WMC which
channel to record from should you want to record? Because you see you must
keep it on channel 4, if you change it, you get nothing. You must change
channals with the box, and only the box. At least, that's how it works with
TVs anyways. So, I don't know. Like I said, I mean to call and ask them when
I'm about to get a new PC whin Windows 8 comes out. Or do any of you that
may also use Comcast want to volunteer? If so, thanks in advance.
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Hank Smith
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 5:58 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

why don't they make a device that some how bounces the ir signal off the
cable box so all you can do is put the tv tuner on input1 or av input then
use the computers keyboard to control the box using the devices that bounces
their signal?
I mean is my idea so far out there or does something ixist?
Hank
On 12/9/2011 3:42 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
 I'll call them when I go to get my new Media Center PC whin Windows 8 
 comes out. But yeah, thanks for keeping me posted. This started last 
 April, it was when you had to go digital since the channals went 
 digital. Remember whin they got rid of annaloge TV, that's when it
happened.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
 Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 4:17 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

 Hi. Oh boy sounds like a pain in the you know what. Anyway u might try 
 googling something like comcast and windows media center. You will see 
 older posts but if u know when they started this new thing there will 
 probably be some forums that discuss somewhere out there.
 Good luck and if i here anything about it I will pass it along. Like i 
 said i'm using att and since the you-verse signal comes through 
 ethernet there is know way to get it to work with the pc.
 hth
 bb
 Brett Boyer
 Audio Production and voice over
 http://brettboyer.voices.com
 Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
 Check out my radio show at my new home:
 http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
 every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom
live!
 http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
 - Original Message -
 From: Hamit Camposhamitcam...@gmail.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 2:02 PM
 Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Ah okay then. Just wandered is all. Yeah like I said before, I'm 
 going to have to ask Comcast if this will work with them any more 
 since you don't really control the TV any more. You put the TV on 
 channel 4, then you have to call them and program it with the box and 
 you control everything from the box's remote supposedly. It doesn't 
 always really work though.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
 Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 2:47 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

 To be honest I have not listened to them. I talked to a few people on 
 this list a couple of years ago and per there suggestions I went off 
 and bought a usb tv tuner, hooked it up to my incomming cable, and 
 had a sighted friend help me with setup. It worked so unbelievably well.
 Now that I am living in California we have att u-verse so I cannot 
 use my media center and I'm forced to memorize menus and such with 
 the stupid cable box. I feel I should only have to pay a small 
 percentage of this damn bill because I can't access more than half of 
 the features.
 Anyway sorry for the rant.
 I guess the answer is no, but I really hate one word or one line answers.
 bb
 Brett Boyer
 Audio Production and voice over
 http://brettboyer.voices.com
 Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
 Check out my radio show at my new home:
 http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
 every Monday 5 o'clock

Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-09 Thread Tom Kaufman
Maybe I'm missing something here, (and I may be veering slightly off-topic 
with this comment, but it would seem to me that (if one is on Comcast Cable; 
then if it really is so that you _must_ put your television (or whatever 
device you're using to pick up the signal), you'd have no way to hear the 
stereo audio; at least that's how it used to be!  For the only _real_ way 
(as far as I know) to have true stereo for your television is to use your 
audio inputs and outputs (channel 3 or 4 just won't work (at least it didn't 
used to!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 6:53 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



I'm not sure, but see the thing is well at least with Comcast is that they
take over the TV. Here is what I really have to find out, well, any of us
that use Comcast do any ways if we want to use WMC. Actually, this would
even apply even to TV speak. Yeah, because even the little basicable box
that they give you for basic channals that looks like an ice creem 
sandwitch

does it too. Is using WMC with their survice even doable at all? See, you
must keep the TV or in this case WMC on channel 4. Or as far as WMC goes 
at
least in theory you would, and there fore only the box changes channel. 
Let
me make this cympler now that I think about it. You know what this is 
like?

It's like when you use to use a VCR. But now imagine it taking over
everything. So sorry to get long winded, but here is the end result. I
guess, you could watch TV theoretically, but how do you tell WMC which
channel to record from should you want to record? Because you see you must
keep it on channel 4, if you change it, you get nothing. You must change
channals with the box, and only the box. At least, that's how it works 
with
TVs anyways. So, I don't know. Like I said, I mean to call and ask them 
when

I'm about to get a new PC whin Windows 8 comes out. Or do any of you that
may also use Comcast want to volunteer? If so, thanks in advance.
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Hank Smith
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 5:58 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

why don't they make a device that some how bounces the ir signal off the
cable box so all you can do is put the tv tuner on input1 or av input then
use the computers keyboard to control the box using the devices that 
bounces

their signal?
I mean is my idea so far out there or does something ixist?
Hank
On 12/9/2011 3:42 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:

I'll call them when I go to get my new Media Center PC whin Windows 8
comes out. But yeah, thanks for keeping me posted. This started last
April, it was when you had to go digital since the channals went
digital. Remember whin they got rid of annaloge TV, that's when it

happened.


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 4:17 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Hi. Oh boy sounds like a pain in the you know what. Anyway u might try
googling something like comcast and windows media center. You will see
older posts but if u know when they started this new thing there will
probably be some forums that discuss somewhere out there.
Good luck and if i here anything about it I will pass it along. Like i
said i'm using att and since the you-verse signal comes through
ethernet there is know way to get it to work with the pc.
hth
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom

live!

http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message -
From: Hamit Camposhamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 2:02 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Ah okay then. Just wandered is all. Yeah like I said before, I'm
going to have to ask Comcast if this will work with them any more
since you don't really control the TV any more. You put the TV on
channel 4, then you have to call them and program it with the box and
you control everything from the box's remote supposedly. It doesn't
always really work though.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 2:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

To be honest I have not listened to them. I talked to a few people on
this list a couple of years ago and per there suggestions I went off
and bought a usb tv tuner

Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-09 Thread Brett Boyer
Tom I don't know what you r talking about. I've never heard of a tv not 
being in stereo on channel 3 or 4.

bb
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http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
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every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific
Listen to the Shroom live!
http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


Maybe I'm missing something here, (and I may be veering slightly 
off-topic with this comment, but it would seem to me that (if one is on 
Comcast Cable; then if it really is so that you _must_ put your television 
(or whatever device you're using to pick up the signal), you'd have no way 
to hear the stereo audio; at least that's how it used to be!  For the only 
_real_ way (as far as I know) to have true stereo for your television is 
to use your audio inputs and outputs (channel 3 or 4 just won't work (at 
least it didn't used to!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 6:53 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


I'm not sure, but see the thing is well at least with Comcast is that 
they

take over the TV. Here is what I really have to find out, well, any of us
that use Comcast do any ways if we want to use WMC. Actually, this would
even apply even to TV speak. Yeah, because even the little basicable box
that they give you for basic channals that looks like an ice creem 
sandwitch

does it too. Is using WMC with their survice even doable at all? See, you
must keep the TV or in this case WMC on channel 4. Or as far as WMC goes 
at
least in theory you would, and there fore only the box changes channel. 
Let
me make this cympler now that I think about it. You know what this is 
like?

It's like when you use to use a VCR. But now imagine it taking over
everything. So sorry to get long winded, but here is the end result. I
guess, you could watch TV theoretically, but how do you tell WMC which
channel to record from should you want to record? Because you see you 
must

keep it on channel 4, if you change it, you get nothing. You must change
channals with the box, and only the box. At least, that's how it works 
with
TVs anyways. So, I don't know. Like I said, I mean to call and ask them 
when

I'm about to get a new PC whin Windows 8 comes out. Or do any of you that
may also use Comcast want to volunteer? If so, thanks in advance.
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Hank Smith
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 5:58 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

why don't they make a device that some how bounces the ir signal off the
cable box so all you can do is put the tv tuner on input1 or av input 
then
use the computers keyboard to control the box using the devices that 
bounces

their signal?
I mean is my idea so far out there or does something ixist?
Hank
On 12/9/2011 3:42 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:

I'll call them when I go to get my new Media Center PC whin Windows 8
comes out. But yeah, thanks for keeping me posted. This started last
April, it was when you had to go digital since the channals went
digital. Remember whin they got rid of annaloge TV, that's when it

happened.


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 4:17 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Hi. Oh boy sounds like a pain in the you know what. Anyway u might try
googling something like comcast and windows media center. You will see
older posts but if u know when they started this new thing there will
probably be some forums that discuss somewhere out there.
Good luck and if i here anything about it I will pass it along. Like i
said i'm using att and since the you-verse signal comes through
ethernet there is know way to get it to work with the pc.
hth
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
Check out my radio show at my new home:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom

live!

http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
- Original Message -
From: Hamit Camposhamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 2:02 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Ah okay then. Just wandered is all. Yeah like I said before, I'm
going to have to ask Comcast if this will work with them any more
since you

RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-09 Thread Kevin Minor
Hi Tom.

Our cable company had cable boxes that put stereo through the coax
connector.  Unfortunately the VCR didn't do this, so to hear stereo from it
I had to hook the composite plugs to the stereo or TV.

Have a good day, and don't work too hard.
GO CATS!
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RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-09 Thread Hamit Campos
Oh they're in stero all right, Atleast on my Grand ma's TV they are.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 7:36 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Maybe I'm missing something here, (and I may be veering slightly off-topic 
with this comment, but it would seem to me that (if one is on Comcast Cable;
then if it really is so that you _must_ put your television (or whatever
device you're using to pick up the signal), you'd have no way to hear the
stereo audio; at least that's how it used to be!  For the only _real_ way
(as far as I know) to have true stereo for your television is to use your
audio inputs and outputs (channel 3 or 4 just won't work (at least it didn't
used to!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message -
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 6:53 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 I'm not sure, but see the thing is well at least with Comcast is that 
 they take over the TV. Here is what I really have to find out, well, 
 any of us that use Comcast do any ways if we want to use WMC. 
 Actually, this would even apply even to TV speak. Yeah, because even 
 the little basicable box that they give you for basic channals that 
 looks like an ice creem sandwitch does it too. Is using WMC with their 
 survice even doable at all? See, you must keep the TV or in this case 
 WMC on channel 4. Or as far as WMC goes at least in theory you would, 
 and there fore only the box changes channel.
 Let
 me make this cympler now that I think about it. You know what this is 
 like?
 It's like when you use to use a VCR. But now imagine it taking over 
 everything. So sorry to get long winded, but here is the end result. I 
 guess, you could watch TV theoretically, but how do you tell WMC which 
 channel to record from should you want to record? Because you see you 
 must keep it on channel 4, if you change it, you get nothing. You must 
 change channals with the box, and only the box. At least, that's how 
 it works with TVs anyways. So, I don't know. Like I said, I mean to 
 call and ask them when I'm about to get a new PC whin Windows 8 comes 
 out. Or do any of you that may also use Comcast want to volunteer? If 
 so, thanks in advance.
 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Hank Smith
 Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 5:58 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

 why don't they make a device that some how bounces the ir signal off 
 the cable box so all you can do is put the tv tuner on input1 or av 
 input then use the computers keyboard to control the box using the 
 devices that bounces their signal?
 I mean is my idea so far out there or does something ixist?
 Hank
 On 12/9/2011 3:42 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
 I'll call them when I go to get my new Media Center PC whin Windows 8 
 comes out. But yeah, thanks for keeping me posted. This started last 
 April, it was when you had to go digital since the channals went 
 digital. Remember whin they got rid of annaloge TV, that's when it
 happened.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
 Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 4:17 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

 Hi. Oh boy sounds like a pain in the you know what. Anyway u might 
 try googling something like comcast and windows media center. You 
 will see older posts but if u know when they started this new thing 
 there will probably be some forums that discuss somewhere out there.
 Good luck and if i here anything about it I will pass it along. Like 
 i said i'm using att and since the you-verse signal comes through 
 ethernet there is know way to get it to work with the pc.
 hth
 bb
 Brett Boyer
 Audio Production and voice over
 http://brettboyer.voices.com
 Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
 Check out my radio show at my new home:
 http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
 every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific Listen to the Shroom
 live!
 http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
 - Original Message -
 From: Hamit Camposhamitcam...@gmail.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 2:02 PM
 Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Ah okay then. Just wandered is all. Yeah like I said before, I'm 
 going to have to ask Comcast if this will work with them any more 
 since you don't really control the TV any more. You put the TV on 
 channel 4, then you have to call them and program it with the box 
 and you control everything from the box's remote supposedly. It 
 doesn't always really work though.

 -Original

Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-08 Thread Howard Traxler
What kind of hardware does one need to do TV whether cable or over the air? 
Thanks.

Howard
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From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Interesting, David, and thanks for the info on the Code Factory
product. I'd like to find something that works with a screen reader
rather than having to buy a separate application just to get tv access,
but it is worth looking into, I suppose.

mary



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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-08 Thread Christopher Chaltain
You just need a TV tuner card. I know you can get internal cards and
external USB attached cards. You just plug an antenna, cable or whatever
into them.

On 08/12/11 05:24, Howard Traxler wrote:
 What kind of hardware does one need to do TV whether cable or over the
 air? Thanks.
 Howard
 - Original Message - From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:15 PM
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?
 
 
 Interesting, David, and thanks for the info on the Code Factory
 product. I'd like to find something that works with a screen reader
 rather than having to buy a separate application just to get tv access,
 but it is worth looking into, I suppose.

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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-08 Thread Gary King

Mary,
No, I haven't tried to set up Media Center, since I don't yet have a TV 
tuner.  It's pretty much a one-time thing though, so I'm sure I could get 
some help with it if I need it.  I've heard it's accessible after it's set 
up, and it's free!


Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Oh, there is no way I'm paying that much for a tv app. Forget it. Do
you have experience with the Win media set up under win 7, Gary?

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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-08 Thread Hank Smith

hello
how do you control the sat top box or the cable box with the computer as 
far as changing channels etc?

Hank
On 12/8/2011 7:59 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

You just need a TV tuner card. I know you can get internal cards and
external USB attached cards. You just plug an antenna, cable or whatever
into them.

On 08/12/11 05:24, Howard Traxler wrote:

What kind of hardware does one need to do TV whether cable or over the
air? Thanks.
Howard
- Original Message - From: Mary Ottenmaryot...@comcast.net
To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Interesting, David, and thanks for the info on the Code Factory
product. I'd like to find something that works with a screen reader
rather than having to buy a separate application just to get tv access,
but it is worth looking into, I suppose.

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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-08 Thread Mary Otten
Thanks, Gary. I do have sighted help, so if it is a one-time set up,
then I will spring for the tuner card if I end up getting the machine. 
I wonder if there is anybody on this list who has either the xps15 or
17, and if you can comment on speaker placement. I read a review last
evening by an unhappy owner of the 17-inch model, who was unhappy
because the speakers are apparently near the front, and his wrists
covered them while he typed. None of the reviews for the 15-inch box
have referred to poor speaker placement, so I'm just curious.

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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-08 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Are you changing topics because I don't understand the question. With a
TV tuner card connected to your PC, you would change channels using some
media software on your PC. I think Windows Meda Center has been
mentioned on this list, but there are other options, such as Beyond TV.
I'm not sure anymore what the accessible options are.

I'm not sure what the options are with respect to controlling your set
top box, satellite box or cable box from your PC.

On 08/12/11 10:04, Hank Smith wrote:
 hello
 how do you control the sat top box or the cable box with the computer as
 far as changing channels etc?
 Hank
 On 12/8/2011 7:59 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
 You just need a TV tuner card. I know you can get internal cards and
 external USB attached cards. You just plug an antenna, cable or whatever
 into them.

 On 08/12/11 05:24, Howard Traxler wrote:
 What kind of hardware does one need to do TV whether cable or over the
 air? Thanks.
 Howard
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 Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:15 PM
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Interesting, David, and thanks for the info on the Code Factory
 product. I'd like to find something that works with a screen reader
 rather than having to buy a separate application just to get tv access,
 but it is worth looking into, I suppose.

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RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-08 Thread Hamit Campos
Woops, I forgot this the PC Audio list. Sorry, I had the wrong list on the
mind. Well then, may I ask, how deep is too deep?

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Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:05 AM
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Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

hello
how do you control the sat top box or the cable box with the computer as far
as changing channels etc?
Hank
On 12/8/2011 7:59 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
 You just need a TV tuner card. I know you can get internal cards and 
 external USB attached cards. You just plug an antenna, cable or 
 whatever into them.

 On 08/12/11 05:24, Howard Traxler wrote:
 What kind of hardware does one need to do TV whether cable or over 
 the air? Thanks.
 Howard
 - Original Message - From: Mary 
 Ottenmaryot...@comcast.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:15 PM
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Interesting, David, and thanks for the info on the Code Factory 
 product. I'd like to find something that works with a screen reader 
 rather than having to buy a separate application just to get tv 
 access, but it is worth looking into, I suppose.

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RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-08 Thread Hamit Campos
Supposidly, you do nothing with the box it self. You just use WMC like you
would your TV. I was afraid it would come to this, this is what I now have
to find out from Comcast though since now they don't want you controlling
your TV with it's own remote. You got to keep it on channel 4, and just use
the box's rmote. But what does this mean for thoughs of us that want to use
WMC? Are these new boxes usible with it? I just didn't want to go into this
this far since it's getting off topic. This has nothing to do with Win 7,
and all to do with Comcast and the like. I knew that this would come up
though, but Marry may or may not have to worry about it depending on how her
TV provider works things.

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On Behalf Of Hank Smith
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:05 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

hello
how do you control the sat top box or the cable box with the computer as far
as changing channels etc?
Hank
On 12/8/2011 7:59 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
 You just need a TV tuner card. I know you can get internal cards and 
 external USB attached cards. You just plug an antenna, cable or 
 whatever into them.

 On 08/12/11 05:24, Howard Traxler wrote:
 What kind of hardware does one need to do TV whether cable or over 
 the air? Thanks.
 Howard
 - Original Message - From: Mary 
 Ottenmaryot...@comcast.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:15 PM
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Interesting, David, and thanks for the info on the Code Factory 
 product. I'd like to find something that works with a screen reader 
 rather than having to buy a separate application just to get tv 
 access, but it is worth looking into, I suppose.

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RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-08 Thread Hamit Campos
Yep, that's what I hear too. Just as a reminder, if you guys want to hear
how to watch TV and record TV with it, Larry Scutchan did a podcast in 2005,
and another one in 2006 on blind cool tech. I would take a listen to
thoughs. I know it's XP Media Center, but from what I've heard, they may
still be relevant. Pluss Microsoft has a lot of documentation about it on
their site. It's all over the place, but it can be found. Saddly they got
rid of the videos that came with Vista which showed you how to hook the
toner up, how to set it up and everything.

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Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 10:53 AM
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Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Mary,
No, I haven't tried to set up Media Center, since I don't yet have a TV
tuner.  It's pretty much a one-time thing though, so I'm sure I could get
some help with it if I need it.  I've heard it's accessible after it's set
up, and it's free!

Gary King
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Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Oh, there is no way I'm paying that much for a tv app. Forget it. Do
 you have experience with the Win media set up under win 7, Gary?

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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-08 Thread vrvaughan
When I had my XP, with USB TV tuner card, and was using Windows Media 
Center, I could either use Page up to go up a channel number or Page down to 
go down a number. I also could just type in the number to go to it directly.


I am hoping that windows 7, will be as easy to use.

Vicky
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From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Are you changing topics because I don't understand the question. With a
TV tuner card connected to your PC, you would change channels using some
media software on your PC. I think Windows Meda Center has been
mentioned on this list, but there are other options, such as Beyond TV.
I'm not sure anymore what the accessible options are.

I'm not sure what the options are with respect to controlling your set
top box, satellite box or cable box from your PC.

On 08/12/11 10:04, Hank Smith wrote:

hello
how do you control the sat top box or the cable box with the computer as
far as changing channels etc?
Hank
On 12/8/2011 7:59 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

You just need a TV tuner card. I know you can get internal cards and
external USB attached cards. You just plug an antenna, cable or whatever
into them.

On 08/12/11 05:24, Howard Traxler wrote:

What kind of hardware does one need to do TV whether cable or over the
air? Thanks.
Howard
- Original Message - From: Mary Ottenmaryot...@comcast.net
To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Interesting, David, and thanks for the info on the Code Factory
product. I'd like to find something that works with a screen reader
rather than having to buy a separate application just to get tv 
access,

but it is worth looking into, I suppose.

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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-08 Thread Brett Boyer
Hi I have used media center with windows 7. Once set up it is perfect! I 
mean perfect!
First of all, you get to have a guide like the sighted folks. Your channels 
go down the left side of the table. When you want to see what's on that 
channel simply hit right arrow and each show is listed. You can get more 
info about a show, or if it's on right now just enter to go to that channel. 
And you can see the whole line up for a few days by using your right arrow. 
I was amazed the first time. To think how cool it would be to have it like 
that on a real tv.
The program is very usable by both jfw and window-eyes. The record settings, 
the recorded shows, even the online tv stuff!

I think that 245 dollar program is really not worth the money. IMhO
bb
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


When I had my XP, with USB TV tuner card, and was using Windows Media 
Center, I could either use Page up to go up a channel number or Page down 
to go down a number. I also could just type in the number to go to it 
directly.


I am hoping that windows 7, will be as easy to use.

Vicky
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From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Are you changing topics because I don't understand the question. With a
TV tuner card connected to your PC, you would change channels using some
media software on your PC. I think Windows Meda Center has been
mentioned on this list, but there are other options, such as Beyond TV.
I'm not sure anymore what the accessible options are.

I'm not sure what the options are with respect to controlling your set
top box, satellite box or cable box from your PC.

On 08/12/11 10:04, Hank Smith wrote:

hello
how do you control the sat top box or the cable box with the computer as
far as changing channels etc?
Hank
On 12/8/2011 7:59 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

You just need a TV tuner card. I know you can get internal cards and
external USB attached cards. You just plug an antenna, cable or 
whatever

into them.

On 08/12/11 05:24, Howard Traxler wrote:

What kind of hardware does one need to do TV whether cable or over the
air? Thanks.
Howard
- Original Message - From: Mary Ottenmaryot...@comcast.net
To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



Interesting, David, and thanks for the info on the Code Factory
product. I'd like to find something that works with a screen reader
rather than having to buy a separate application just to get tv 
access,

but it is worth looking into, I suppose.

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RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-08 Thread Hamit Campos
From what I've heard, it should be.

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of vrvaug...@mailzone.com
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 6:50 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

When I had my XP, with USB TV tuner card, and was using Windows Media
Center, I could either use Page up to go up a channel number or Page down to
go down a number. I also could just type in the number to go to it directly.

I am hoping that windows 7, will be as easy to use.

Vicky
- Original Message -
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Are you changing topics because I don't understand the question. With a
 TV tuner card connected to your PC, you would change channels using some
 media software on your PC. I think Windows Meda Center has been
 mentioned on this list, but there are other options, such as Beyond TV.
 I'm not sure anymore what the accessible options are.

 I'm not sure what the options are with respect to controlling your set
 top box, satellite box or cable box from your PC.

 On 08/12/11 10:04, Hank Smith wrote:
 hello
 how do you control the sat top box or the cable box with the computer as
 far as changing channels etc?
 Hank
 On 12/8/2011 7:59 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
 You just need a TV tuner card. I know you can get internal cards and
 external USB attached cards. You just plug an antenna, cable or whatever
 into them.

 On 08/12/11 05:24, Howard Traxler wrote:
 What kind of hardware does one need to do TV whether cable or over the
 air? Thanks.
 Howard
 - Original Message - From: Mary Ottenmaryot...@comcast.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:15 PM
 Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


 Interesting, David, and thanks for the info on the Code Factory
 product. I'd like to find something that works with a screen reader
 rather than having to buy a separate application just to get tv 
 access,
 but it is worth looking into, I suppose.

 mary



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over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-07 Thread Mary Otten
I'm thinking about purchasing a Windows 7 laptop, one of whose optional
add ons is a 50 dollar tv tuner card. I have never used Win 7 but am
interssted in the Del xps for its superior audio and wondered if
anybody has any experience with the accessibility of tv via these add
on tuner cards and, I would assume Windows Media center or whatever
they call it under Win 7. 

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RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-07 Thread Hamit Campos
People keep telling me it's easy. The only hard thing I here is the set up.
I want to do this too with either a XPS laptop, or a XPS desktop. I want
this kind of lap top. The 17 intch one. Please be sure to tell me more about
it off list at hamitcam...@gmail.com when you get it. So any ways, Larry
Scutchan did some Media Center pod casts on www.blindcooltech.com in 2006.
Now this does mean that it'll be Windows XP, but I should  think that the
process of watching TV with Media Center should be some what the same. At
least from what I here it is any ways. The only problem will be if you're
using Comcast because of the way they do things. But we can talk more of
this off list if you want, but this is one of the things I have to find out.

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On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 6:15 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

I'm thinking about purchasing a Windows 7 laptop, one of whose optional add
ons is a 50 dollar tv tuner card. I have never used Win 7 but am interssted
in the Del xps for its superior audio and wondered if anybody has any
experience with the accessibility of tv via these add on tuner cards and, I
would assume Windows Media center or whatever they call it under Win 7. 

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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-07 Thread David Tanner
I do not know if you are aware that there is a product sold by Code Factory 
and distributed in the U. S. by Handy Tech North America - www.handytech.us 
called PC Speak.  This software will work along with your TV tuner to give 
you access to all of your local on air TV channels.  So far as I know they 
still do not support cable or satelite TV, but do make access to all of the 
on air HD stations in your area completely accessible.


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From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 7:38 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


People keep telling me it's easy. The only hard thing I here is the set 
up.

I want to do this too with either a XPS laptop, or a XPS desktop. I want
this kind of lap top. The 17 intch one. Please be sure to tell me more 
about

it off list at hamitcam...@gmail.com when you get it. So any ways, Larry
Scutchan did some Media Center pod casts on www.blindcooltech.com in 2006.
Now this does mean that it'll be Windows XP, but I should  think that the
process of watching TV with Media Center should be some what the same. At
least from what I here it is any ways. The only problem will be if you're
using Comcast because of the way they do things. But we can talk more of
this off list if you want, but this is one of the things I have to find 
out.


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On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 6:15 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

I'm thinking about purchasing a Windows 7 laptop, one of whose optional 
add
ons is a 50 dollar tv tuner card. I have never used Win 7 but am 
interssted

in the Del xps for its superior audio and wondered if anybody has any
experience with the accessibility of tv via these add on tuner cards and, 
I

would assume Windows Media center or whatever they call it under Win 7.

Mary


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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-07 Thread Mary Otten
Interesting, David, and thanks for the info on the Code Factory
product. I'd like to find something that works with a screen reader
rather than having to buy a separate application just to get tv access,
but it is worth looking into, I suppose.

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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-07 Thread vrvaughan
Please respond to the list, as I would also like to know how it works for 
you.


Thanks much! Vicky
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Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:38 PM
Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?


People keep telling me it's easy. The only hard thing I here is the set 
up.

I want to do this too with either a XPS laptop, or a XPS desktop. I want
this kind of lap top. The 17 intch one. Please be sure to tell me more 
about

it off list at hamitcam...@gmail.com when you get it. So any ways, Larry
Scutchan did some Media Center pod casts on www.blindcooltech.com in 2006.
Now this does mean that it'll be Windows XP, but I should  think that the
process of watching TV with Media Center should be some what the same. At
least from what I here it is any ways. The only problem will be if you're
using Comcast because of the way they do things. But we can talk more of
this off list if you want, but this is one of the things I have to find 
out.


-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 6:15 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

I'm thinking about purchasing a Windows 7 laptop, one of whose optional 
add
ons is a 50 dollar tv tuner card. I have never used Win 7 but am 
interssted

in the Del xps for its superior audio and wondered if anybody has any
experience with the accessibility of tv via these add on tuner cards and, 
I

would assume Windows Media center or whatever they call it under Win 7.

Mary


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RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-07 Thread Hamit Campos
Well, like I said, WMC works well enough from what I've heard. The only
reason I didn't bring up PC Speak is because of what Dave said, and that's
that it won't work with cable. Pluss I wasn't sure what you wanted to do. As
for me, I'll stick with WMC until PC Speak does work with cable perhaps.

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On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:15 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

Interesting, David, and thanks for the info on the Code Factory product. I'd
like to find something that works with a screen reader rather than having to
buy a separate application just to get tv access, but it is worth looking
into, I suppose.

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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-07 Thread Gary King

Mary,
You can enjoy TV Speak for the low, low price of $245.  It is sold in the 
United States by Handy Tech North America.  Makes Media Center in Windows 7 
look pretty good, even if setup is difficult.


Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?



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product. I'd like to find something that works with a screen reader
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but it is worth looking into, I suppose.

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RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-07 Thread Mary Otten
I'm strictly interested in over the air, not cable or satellite. The
xps laptop seems to have a tv antenna built in to it, if I'm reading
the Del site correctly. So a tuner card add on looks like a cheap way
to get access to local tv. I'm trying to find a better description of
the keyboard on the 15 and 17 inch laptops. One review I read seemed to
indicate the 17 has a full keyboard including numeric pad, which could
be an advantage. But the big attraction of the  this laptop are the jbl
speakers and subwoofer built into the bottom somehow. 

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RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-07 Thread Hamit Campos
Yeah, that's what I've read too, that this is their loudest and clearest
laptop. But like I said, I think but ton't quote me the laptop it self is
off topic so when you get it please E-mail me off list so we can really talk
about it in deapth. But to answer what you said, okay then, I guess PC Speak
might be just fine for you then.

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On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:24 PM
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Subject: RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

I'm strictly interested in over the air, not cable or satellite. The xps
laptop seems to have a tv antenna built in to it, if I'm reading the Del
site correctly. So a tuner card add on looks like a cheap way to get access
to local tv. I'm trying to find a better description of the keyboard on the
15 and 17 inch laptops. One review I read seemed to indicate the 17 has a
full keyboard including numeric pad, which could be an advantage. But the
big attraction of the  this laptop are the jbl speakers and subwoofer built
into the bottom somehow. 

Mary


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Re: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-07 Thread Mary Otten
Oh, there is no way I'm paying that much for a tv app. Forget it. Do
you have experience with the Win media set up under win 7, Gary? 

Mary



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RE: over the air tv on a win 7 machine?

2011-12-07 Thread Hamit Campos
That was the name of it, TV Seak. Sorry.

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On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:20 PM
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Mary,
You can enjoy TV Speak for the low, low price of $245.  It is sold in the
United States by Handy Tech North America.  Makes Media Center in Windows 7
look pretty good, even if setup is difficult.

Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
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 Interesting, David, and thanks for the info on the Code Factory
 product. I'd like to find something that works with a screen reader
 rather than having to buy a separate application just to get tv access,
 but it is worth looking into, I suppose.

 mary



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