Re: [PD] pd 0.40.1 won't build with --disable-alsa
Not having portaudio, I tried just --disable-alsa on a Fedora 3 machine and got a different error. (on my redhat 9 system it works just fine...) I'll have to poke around some more to see what's going on. cheers Miller On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 08:42:51AM -0600, John Harrison wrote: In my effort to find out why Pd crashes my system on startup, I thought I'd rebuild and upgrade to 0.40.1: $ ./configure --enable-jack --disable-portaudio --disable-portmidi --disable-alsa $ make The build breaks: s_main.o: In function `sys_argparse':/home/iradio/Desktop/installs/puredata/pd-0.40-1/src/s_main.c:632: undefined reference to `alsa_adddev' s_audio.o: In function `audio_getdevs':/home/iradio/Desktop/installs/puredata/pd-0.40-1/src/s_audio.c:573: undefined reference to `alsa_getdevs' s_audio.o: In function `sys_close_audio':/home/iradio/Desktop/installs/puredata/pd-0.40-1/src/s_audio.c:416: undefined reference to `alsa_close_audio' ... ... ... If I leave out --disable-alsa when it builds fine. -John ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] processing audio and render in gem simultaneously???
hello everybody. is possible to process audio in pd and work with gem simultaneously???. i have mac osx with 1.33 mhz and 768 ram., but always i obtanin clicks and interference in audio when I apply a process in gem...like change from videoA.mov to videoB.mov...is a simply task but audio generate a click. may be gem is not designed to work with audio processs in the same timei don't knowmay be there are problems in my mac...in max/jitter i don't have these problems. some suggestion or advice? thanks a lot. Andrés Ferrari G. http://puredata.org/Members/anfex __ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! Regístrate ya - http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] processing audio and render in gem simultaneously???
Hallo! is possible to process audio in pd and work with gem simultaneously???. yes, of course ... 768 ram., but always i obtanin clicks and interference in audio when I apply a process in gem...like change from videoA.mov to videoB.mov...is a simply task but audio generate a click. may be gem is not designed to The problem is, that the audio and video calculation is in the same thread - so if there is a heavy calculation in GEM you get an audio dropout, because there is too few cpu time to also calculate audio ... some suggestion or advice? You can use 2 instances of pd at the same time: one for audio and one for GEM (and start this one with -nogui) - then you can send data between them through netsend/netreceive. Now the audio and video calculation is seperated and you can say your OS that the audio-process should have a higher priority. Alternatively you could also try pdp. There you can use only one instance of pd and start pdp in a seperate thread. LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] processing audio and render in gem simultaneously???
Hallo, Andres Ferrari hat gesagt: // Andres Ferrari wrote: is possible to process audio in pd and work with gem simultaneously???. i have mac osx with 1.33 mhz I suppose you mean 1.33 GHz? ;) and 768 ram., but always i obtanin clicks and interference in audio when I apply a process in gem...like change from videoA.mov to videoB.mov...is a simply task but audio generate a click. may be gem is not designed to work with audio processs in the same timei don't knowmay be there are problems in my mac...in max/jitter i don't have these problems. I work with Gem and Audio at the same time on Linux without much problems, so I'd say, yes, it's possible. I cannot comment on OS-X. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] processing audio and render in gem simultaneously???
At 18:21 03.11.2006, Andres Ferrari wrote: hello everybody. is possible to process audio in pd and work with gem simultaneously???. i have mac osx with 1.33 mhz and 768 ram., but always i obtanin clicks and interference in audio when I apply a process in gem...like change from videoA.mov to videoB.mov...is a simply task but audio generate a click. may be gem is not designed to work with audio processs in the same timei don't knowmay be there are problems in my mac...in max/jitter i don't have these problems. the problem is that most video processing will very likely take longer than 1 audio block per video frame you can try to work around that by setting a bigger blocksize because the default is just 64bytes = 1.45ms @ 44100 but that will cause a higer audiolatency. the best solution is to split your patch into two separate patches one just containg the audio part, the other one just doing the video stuff and run those two patches with two instances of pd. but that also sucks when those two pd's then have to communicate a lot (netsend or osc) it would be a great feature for gem if it was a separate thread with settable priority relative to parent-pd. feature request! feature request!! feature request!!! thx, sven. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] error: pix_video: could not initialise COM
List, I'm trying to use PD/GEM on my Shuttle, AMD Athlon 64 machine with WinXP and a ATI Radeon X800 graphics card. GEM seems to work fine except for pix_video. When I load a pix_video patch, like 00.SimpleVideo.pd from the examples, I get the following: MAN::resetState entered error: pix_video: could not initialise COM. MAN::resetState entered When I send the message device 0 the pix_video object, I get the following: error: pix_videoDS: COM has not been initialized. Here's what I have done to try to solve the problem: - I've tried different versions of PD/GEM but I still can't use pix_video. I'm currently using Pd version 0.40-1 and GEM version 0.91-cvs. - I've updated my graphics driver to the most recent version. - I've tried both USB web cams and DV cam but both give the same error. The cameras work in other applications. - pix_video works fine on my Pentium machines. I thought it might be an AMD problem but when wrote to the list about this a year ago others replied they had no problem with their AMD Athlon 64 machines. - Per another suggestion I ran services.msc and made sure COM, DCOM and WMI services were started and they are. - I've updated my DirectX to the latest version. I'm hoping there might be someone who can help me find a solution. Drew ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] error: pix_video: could not initialise COM
Hi Drew I tested the DirectShow code on an Athlon64 laptop (much of it was written on one). I don't have any AMD machines to test with now though. The COM initialization is the very first check done before DirectShow is even called and all DirectShow code has to have that COM code. I haven't even seen that error happen since COM is pretty basic for the MS OSes - kind of like saying you don't have any OS installed. Which service packs do you have installed? Is this a 64bit or 32 bit OS? Chris On 11/3/06, Drew Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List, I'm trying to use PD/GEM on my Shuttle, AMD Athlon 64 machine with WinXP and a ATI Radeon X800 graphics card. GEM seems to work fine except for pix_video. When I load a pix_video patch, like 00.SimpleVideo.pd from the examples, I get the following: MAN::resetState entered error: pix_video: could not initialise COM. MAN::resetState entered When I send the message device 0 the pix_video object, I get the following: error: pix_videoDS: COM has not been initialized. Here's what I have done to try to solve the problem: - I've tried different versions of PD/GEM but I still can't use pix_video. I'm currently using Pd version 0.40-1 and GEM version 0.91-cvs. - I've updated my graphics driver to the most recent version. - I've tried both USB web cams and DV cam but both give the same error. The cameras work in other applications. - pix_video works fine on my Pentium machines. I thought it might be an AMD problem but when wrote to the list about this a year ago others replied they had no problem with their AMD Athlon 64 machines. - Per another suggestion I ran services.msc and made sure COM, DCOM and WMI services were started and they are. - I've updated my DirectX to the latest version. I'm hoping there might be someone who can help me find a solution. Drew ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] tabosc4~ in .40-1 on MacTel
Thanks a lot! -- Original message -- From: Miller Puckette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wow, I haven't heard sounds like that since Xenakis died. I'm guessing osc~ is broken too. Will fixtest tomorrow... thanks Miller On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 09:26:18PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is anyone else experiencing strange/incorrect behavior with the tabosc4~ object in .40-1 in OS X on a MacTel machine? i don't experience this behavior on an XP Pro machine... essentially, tabosc4~ doesn't work correctly and can blow up easily (i.e., loud!). open the tabosc4~ help and try it out. thanks! ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd freezing on startup in ubuntu dapper
Pd is still completely freezing my ubuntu Dapper machine. I have tried recompiling with Pd 0.40.2 and still absolute and instant freeze. So I tried the suggestion below. The debugger reports: Starting program /usr/local/bin/pd [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread -1211066688 (LWP 6400)] Then the machine is completely frozen again, so I have to pull the plug. I also tried editing /etc/hosts as was suggested here: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2005-07/029853.html and that didn't help either... I have used this on many ubuntu Dapper machines so I don't know what's so special about this one. Could it be the 2 dual-core Pentium Xeons? Could it be the M-audio Delta 1010LT card? When I run $ pd -verbose I get no response at all. Just the instantly frozen machine. And I have tried the various flags (-nrt -nomidi -nosound) and others... -John Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, John Harrison hat gesagt: // John Harrison wrote: I have now tried pd -nrt -nosound -nomidi and it was the same thing: complete computer freeze with even mouse and keyboard not responding, requiring me to pull the plug. I've tried both as root and not. Can you try to start Pd under a debugger? That is: $ gdb /usr/bin/pd (gdb) run and if Pd crashes and your machine is still alive try to catch a backtrace with: (gdb) bt Ciao ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd freezing on startup in ubuntu dapper
If I yank the M-audio Delta 1010LT card out of the machine, Pd runs fine. When I part the card back in, Pd freezes again. So the problem appears to be this M-audio card. The thing is...I Googled and searched this mailing list and it appears people use this card with Pd all the time with no problems. I need Pd and I need this M-audio card. What's my next step? Weird that the card would crash Pd even with this command: $ pd -nosound -noadc -nodac Thanks, -John John Harrison wrote: Pd is still completely freezing my ubuntu Dapper machine. I have tried recompiling with Pd 0.40.2 and still absolute and instant freeze. So I tried the suggestion below. The debugger reports: Starting program /usr/local/bin/pd [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread -1211066688 (LWP 6400)] Then the machine is completely frozen again, so I have to pull the plug. I also tried editing /etc/hosts as was suggested here: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2005-07/029853.html and that didn't help either... I have used this on many ubuntu Dapper machines so I don't know what's so special about this one. Could it be the 2 dual-core Pentium Xeons? Could it be the M-audio Delta 1010LT card? When I run $ pd -verbose I get no response at all. Just the instantly frozen machine. And I have tried the various flags (-nrt -nomidi -nosound) and others... -John Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, John Harrison hat gesagt: // John Harrison wrote: I have now tried pd -nrt -nosound -nomidi and it was the same thing: complete computer freeze with even mouse and keyboard not responding, requiring me to pull the plug. I've tried both as root and not. Can you try to start Pd under a debugger? That is: $ gdb /usr/bin/pd (gdb) run and if Pd crashes and your machine is still alive try to catch a backtrace with: (gdb) bt Ciao ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] error: pix_video: could not initialise COM
On 11/3/06, Drew Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Chris,The OS is 32 bit: Windows XP Home Edition, Version 2002, Service Pack 2DrewI have an Intel CoreDuo laptop running that exact OS with no problems. I didn't install anything other than Pd and it has captured hundreds of clips from a DV cam so far. Unfortunately, I don't know what to suggest as a solution to this problem. Chris ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Re: [PD-dev] Survey (was Re: opt-in usage statistics 'phone home')
Chris McCormick a écrit : 1000 users on the mailing list is a good sample for a survey though! Attached is a survey, please have a look and add to it, change it, whatever. Survey is attached, Patco. Place an X in boxes like this: [X] You may tick multiple boxes. General use of Puredata, where 'Puredata' means any software product derived from Puredata: [X] I use it every day [ ] I use it at least once a week [ ] I use it at least once a month [ ] I rarely use Puredata [X] I use Puredata in my professional work [ ] I use Puredata as a hobby Puredata variants that you use: [X] Miller's Puredata from his website [X] Pd-extended from Hans' installer [X] PdVST [ ] PDa (or gp2xPd) [ ] Netpd Which version number do you use (the current is 0.40): ___ Audio/Visual (please tick one): [ ] I use it primarily for audio [ ] I use it mostly for audio with some graphics [X] I use it for both audio and graphics equally [ ] I use it mostly for graphics with some audio [ ] I use it primarily for graphics Operating System: [X] I use it on a Linux based operating system [ ] I use it on a Mac based operating system [X] I use it on a Windows based operating system [ ] I use it on a handheld/embedded system [ ] I compiled it for a PDP-11 and run it there because I am insane Abstraction kits: [X] I use RRRadical [X] I use fbar's list-abs (Please help me add more) [ ] I regularly use the following abstraction kits: Externals: (Please help me with this. Externals are not my area of expertise) Libraries: [X] Zexy [X] Gem [ ] GridFlow [ ] PDP [ ] PiDiP [X] IEMlib [X] maxlib [X] cyclone Using Gem without zexy is like cooking without water. I use many other externals, mostly Toxy's and Grill's. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Re: [PD-dev] Survey (was Re: opt-in usage statistics 'phone home')
Wait wait that's just a draft survey! Please don't fill it out yet. Best, Chris. On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 07:23:22AM +0100, Patco wrote: Chris McCormick a écrit : 1000 users on the mailing list is a good sample for a survey though! Attached is a survey, please have a look and add to it, change it, whatever. Survey is attached, Patco. Place an X in boxes like this: [X] You may tick multiple boxes. General use of Puredata, where 'Puredata' means any software product derived from Puredata: [X] I use it every day [ ] I use it at least once a week [ ] I use it at least once a month [ ] I rarely use Puredata [X] I use Puredata in my professional work [ ] I use Puredata as a hobby Puredata variants that you use: [X] Miller's Puredata from his website [X] Pd-extended from Hans' installer [X] PdVST [ ] PDa (or gp2xPd) [ ] Netpd Which version number do you use (the current is 0.40): ___ Audio/Visual (please tick one): [ ] I use it primarily for audio [ ] I use it mostly for audio with some graphics [X] I use it for both audio and graphics equally [ ] I use it mostly for graphics with some audio [ ] I use it primarily for graphics Operating System: [X] I use it on a Linux based operating system [ ] I use it on a Mac based operating system [X] I use it on a Windows based operating system [ ] I use it on a handheld/embedded system [ ] I compiled it for a PDP-11 and run it there because I am insane Abstraction kits: [X] I use RRRadical [X] I use fbar's list-abs (Please help me add more) [ ] I regularly use the following abstraction kits: Externals: (Please help me with this. Externals are not my area of expertise) Libraries: [X] Zexy [X] Gem [ ] GridFlow [ ] PDP [ ] PiDiP [X] IEMlib [X] maxlib [X] cyclone Using Gem without zexy is like cooking without water. I use many other externals, mostly Toxy's and Grill's. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mccormick.cx ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Re: [PD-dev] Survey (was Re: opt-in usage statistics 'phone home')
Chris McCormick a écrit : Wait wait that's just a draft survey! Please don't fill it out yet. Best, Chris. Ah, it was so easy to answer, Let me try to give a add: [X] I use it for audio and video sequencing (scoring?) and carmen's suggestion: Abstraction kits: [ ] I use RRRadical [ ] I use fbar's list-abs [X] ix-gui Yo, Patco. ___ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
