Re: [PD] pdcon.org off and spammed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-07-09 18:29, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Marco Donnarumma wrote: I was surfing for pd papers and found this http://pdcon.org/ for the conference in Brazil, but it's offline. There's a fancy, spammy pink page instead. Same thing happened to the 2ième congrès in Montréal, and I don't remember how I found the former IP address of pure-data.ca, but I did find it after about one hour of searching. i always suggested to use DNS names which are owned by the community as fallbacks, so the pdcon organizers don't have to pay forever. e.g. we (technically the iem, administered by me, dedicated to the pd community), can offer any subdomain of puredata.info. for the conventions, there have always been DNS entries of the form conventionXY.puredata.info (with XY being the year). unfortunately it seems that mostly the offer is not understood/deemed unimportant/forgotten/impossible to implement with the technical skills available; which results in: http://convention04.puredata.info/ (Graz) hosted at puredata.info, still working :-) http://convention07.puredata.info/ (Montreal) is an alias for art-engine.ca, which still runs, but unfortunately ceased to do anything meaningful with requests for this side, so we only get an intentionally left blank page http://convention09.puredata.info/ (Sao Paolo) is a redirection to pdcon.org (since i couldn't persuade anybody to setup a VirtualHost configuration on their webserver that would accept requests for this address); since pdcon.org is now expired and now offers nonsense, the convention09... url does the same. http://convention11.puredata.info/ (Weimar) is a redirection to the uni-weimar server; i fear that it will face a similar fate than convention09 (that is the site will be turned off after a while; i think it's rather unlikely that we will see scantily dressed bodies on the uni-weimar website anytime soon) http://convention??.puredata.info/ (who knows) personally i find the puredata.info URL easier to remember (though longer to type) than most other URLs, but then i am involved a lot with puredata.info... as for sustainability of the old websites, i _can_ offer hosting static exports of the websites once the events are done (and make them accessible under the above links) anybody interested please understand, that this offer can only be made - for _static_ sites (self contained HTML-exports! absolutely no database backends! no PHP! everything running on Apache. only transient ssh access to the host until things are running) - - for small sites (anything less than 100MB or so) a preferred way (ressources permitting) would be to make a http://convention??.puredata.info a permanent virtual host on _your_ infrastructure) fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk4armUACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRX8wCgrYs+eXIiyKLY/cFNwTqXedx3 9BUAn14By/tbLr19gZveGBm7ERgzd086 =FEUR -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdcon.org off and spammed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-07-10 16:45, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sun, 10 Jul 2011, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: I believe the info on the conventions (early and future) should be in http://puredata.info/ , maybe under community, if not by a separate tab. I think that people might enjoy to see the site as it was originally presented, and then it means that you wouldn't have to re-edit it all to fit the Plone system. yes. that is what i meant (in my other mail) by: if you want that, it ought to be static HTML exports. i would prefer to have a directory tree of HTML-pages that could be delivered using an ordinary webserver (like apache) fgamdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk4asCkACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQG/gCgkdgj8U7LruLey7RA73ojYq5Q lvEAnRsUR9F6IKsje+DBqgqh5KxPUElX =8je8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdcon.org off and spammed
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: http://convention07.puredata.info/ (Montreal) is an alias for art-engine.ca, which still runs, but unfortunately ceased to do anything meaningful with requests for this side, so we only get an intentionally left blank page What are you talking about ? It should get you to a directory listing in which you have «fr» for the french version and «en» for the english version. (as well as 3 other folders you shouldn't go into directly) It would be nicer if it only said «french» and «english» at the beginning and people would pick one, but if you get a blank page instead, there's a much bigger problem to be dealt with beforehand ! http://convention09.puredata.info/ (Sao Paolo) is a redirection to pdcon.org (since i couldn't persuade anybody to setup a VirtualHost configuration on their webserver that would accept requests for this address); since pdcon.org is now expired and now offers nonsense, the convention09... url does the same. do you have the IP address of the former pdcon.org ? as for sustainability of the old websites, i _can_ offer hosting static exports of the websites once the events are done (and make them accessible under the above links) anybody interested please understand, that this offer can only be made - for _static_ sites (self contained HTML-exports! absolutely no database backends! no PHP! everything running on Apache. only transient ssh access to the host until things are running) - - for small sites (anything less than 100MB or so) Artengine does that too (obviously, as pure-data.artengine.ca alias convention09.puredata.info) but it could also happen for a pd convention site much bigger than 100 MB. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdcon.org off and spammed
anyway, I'm really extremely completely ignorant on the subject, but all I'm saying is that I can help and send the info to put up again somewhere. Palm should know better, and Paloma also wanted to do something nice. It seems we'll all be there now in weimar, so we'll talk, huh? Message: 1 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:03:52 +0200 From: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] pdcon.org off and spammed To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 4e1aae68.1070...@iem.at Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-07-09 18:29, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Marco Donnarumma wrote: I was surfing for pd papers and found this http://pdcon.org/ for the conference in Brazil, but it's offline. There's a fancy, spammy pink page instead. Same thing happened to the 2i?me congr?s in Montr?al, and I don't remember how I found the former IP address of pure-data.ca, but I did find it after about one hour of searching. i always suggested to use DNS names which are owned by the community as fallbacks, so the pdcon organizers don't have to pay forever. e.g. we (technically the iem, administered by me, dedicated to the pd community), can offer any subdomain of puredata.info. for the conventions, there have always been DNS entries of the form conventionXY.puredata.info (with XY being the year). unfortunately it seems that mostly the offer is not understood/deemed unimportant/forgotten/impossible to implement with the technical skills available; which results in: http://convention04.puredata.info/ (Graz) hosted at puredata.info, still working :-) http://convention07.puredata.info/ (Montreal) is an alias for art-engine.ca, which still runs, but unfortunately ceased to do anything meaningful with requests for this side, so we only get an intentionally left blank page http://convention09.puredata.info/ (Sao Paolo) is a redirection to pdcon.org (since i couldn't persuade anybody to setup a VirtualHost configuration on their webserver that would accept requests for this address); since pdcon.org is now expired and now offers nonsense, the convention09... url does the same. http://convention11.puredata.info/ (Weimar) is a redirection to the uni-weimar server; i fear that it will face a similar fate than convention09 (that is the site will be turned off after a while; i think it's rather unlikely that we will see scantily dressed bodies on the uni-weimar website anytime soon) http://convention??.puredata.info/ (who knows) personally i find the puredata.info URL easier to remember (though longer to type) than most other URLs, but then i am involved a lot with puredata.info... as for sustainability of the old websites, i _can_ offer hosting static exports of the websites once the events are done (and make them accessible under the above links) anybody interested please understand, that this offer can only be made - for _static_ sites (self contained HTML-exports! absolutely no database backends! no PHP! everything running on Apache. only transient ssh access to the host until things are running) - - for small sites (anything less than 100MB or so) a preferred way (ressources permitting) would be to make a http://convention??.puredata.info a permanent virtual host on _your_ infrastructure) fgmasdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdcon.org off and spammed
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: http://convention07.puredata.info/ (Montreal) is an alias for art-engine.ca, which still runs, but unfortunately ceased to do anything meaningful with requests for this side, so we only get an intentionally left blank page What are you talking about ? So in the end it was just a config on Johannes' computer, just to say that it hasn't stopped working. It should get you to a directory listing in which you have «fr» for the french version and «en» for the english version. (as well as 3 other folders you shouldn't go into directly) It would be nicer if it only said «french» and «english» at the beginning and people would pick one, but if you get a blank page instead, there's a much bigger problem to be dealt with beforehand ! I added redirection by preferred language, thanks to a guy on #dataflow whom I don't know. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdcon.org off and spammed
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: anyway, I'm really extremely completely ignorant on the subject, but all I'm saying is that I can help and send the info to put up again somewhere. Palm should know better, and Paloma also wanted to do something nice. It seems we'll all be there now in weimar, so we'll talk, huh? If you happen to also be talking about me... well, at this point, I'm quite unsure about going. But I'm not saying «no» yet... I will confirm either way by the end of the week. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdcon.org off and spammed
On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: I have all the info about the event itself (artists, pics, movies, schedule) somewhere, I could send it to be put up somewhere else.cheers In the meantime, could you name any other domain name that is hosted on the same server that the formerly pdcon.org website is on ? ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdcon.org off and spammed
i wouldnt know that, maybe someone else 2011/7/11 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: I have all the info about the event itself (artists, pics, movies, schedule) somewhere, I could send it to be put up somewhere else.cheers In the meantime, could you name any other domain name that is hosted on the same server that the formerly pdcon.org website is on ? __**__** ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdcon.org off and spammed
I believe the info on the conventions (early and future) should be in http://puredata.info/ , maybe under community, if not by a separate tab. 2011/7/9 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Maybe something like pdcon09.puredata.info if IOhannes is up for it. .hc On Jul 9, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: I have all the info about the event itself (artists, pics, movies, schedule) somewhere, I could send it to be put up somewhere else. cheers __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/** listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list --**--** As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdcon.org off and spammed
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: I believe the info on the conventions (early and future) should be in http://puredata.info/ , maybe under community, if not by a separate tab. I think that people might enjoy to see the site as it was originally presented, and then it means that you wouldn't have to re-edit it all to fit the Plone system. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdcon.org off and spammed
On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Marco Donnarumma wrote: I was surfing for pd papers and found this http://pdcon.org/ for the conference in Brazil, but it's offline. There's a fancy, spammy pink page instead. Same thing happened to the 2ième congrès in Montréal, and I don't remember how I found the former IP address of pure-data.ca, but I did find it after about one hour of searching. After that, I edited my /etc/hosts file in order to fake the old DNS (that part is really easy). I couldn't just type the IP address in the browser, because for that IP addresses there were many domains and the webserver had to know that I wanted pure-data.ca. Then I made an automated copy of much of the site's content, and put it at http://pure-data.artengine.ca/ , but only as static, because I didn't have FTP access... note that I did that without any help from anyone, which means that it might be possible for someone to make a backup of much of the 3rd convention's site without any help from anyone either (?). ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdcon.org off and spammed
I have all the info about the event itself (artists, pics, movies, schedule) somewhere, I could send it to be put up somewhere else. cheers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdcon.org off and spammed
Maybe something like pdcon09.puredata.info if IOhannes is up for it. .hc On Jul 9, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: I have all the info about the event itself (artists, pics, movies, schedule) somewhere, I could send it to be put up somewhere else. cheers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
