eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread Cotty
Just today I noticed something different about eBay. Previously, bid
amounts (on the Bid History page) of each unfinished auction were
protected - hidden - until the auction ended. Has this policy changed, or
is there a fault on eBay ? I can see every bid amount on all ongoing
auctions




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: how does the ZX-50 do with ttl flash?

2004-11-09 Thread John Whittingham
 It is in the LX, MZ-3 ZX5n in my experience.  There have been 
 problems reported with the *ist-d.

Hi Peter

Ever tried the MZ-3 ZX-5n with the AF400FTZ, would you care to comment on 
performance?

John


-- Original Message ---
From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 21:54:24 -0500
Subject: Re: how does the ZX-50 do with ttl flash?

 It is in the LX, MZ-3 ZX5n in my experience.  There have been 
 problems reported with the *ist-d.
 
 David Zaninovic wrote:
 
 I have given up on using the istD with TTL flash.
 It is totally useless in this regard.
 
 
 
 Shouldn't the TTL flash be more precise than auto flash ?
 
 
   
 
 
 -- 
 I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
 During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
 and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during 
 peacetime.--P.J. O'Rourke
--- End of Original Message ---



Re: Re: star trails refresher

2004-11-09 Thread m.9.wilson

 
 From: Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2004/11/08 Mon PM 11:27:54 GMT
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: star trails refresher
 
 amita said she's going to cape cod. that's more than 20 miles offshore and
 the skies there, although not quite like in AZ, are pretty dark.

You might be suprised at what can be picked up.  Sometimes it enhances the 
shot, sometimes not.  My part of the UK is about 60 miles wide.  I can travel 
to the other side and, if conditions are right, see the glow in the sky from 
the conurbation I live in.

mike

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Re: PAW: Black and white and colour

2004-11-09 Thread Steve Jolly
Leon Altoff wrote:
http://www.bluering.org.au/leon/feature.htm
Comments welcome.
It's a great photo, but the selective desaturation doesn't work for me, 
I'm afraid.

S


Re: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread m.9.wilson
Not working for me.  Maybe it's a Mac thing. 8-)

mike
using ebay.co.uk

 
 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2004/11/09 Tue AM 08:42:22 GMT
 To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: eBay question
 
 Just today I noticed something different about eBay. Previously, bid
 amounts (on the Bid History page) of each unfinished auction were
 protected - hidden - until the auction ended. Has this policy changed, or
 is there a fault on eBay ? I can see every bid amount on all ongoing
 auctions
 
 
 
 
 Cheers,
   Cotty
 
 
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RE: UK - Photog Doc tonight - P67?

2004-11-09 Thread Rob Brigham
Not on my BBC2 - my guides say keep the aspidistra flying at 23:20.

Missed it last night (knew it was on at 9:00, but watching some other
c**p), so cheers for the Heads up for tonight and Saturday night tho...

 -Original Message-
 From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 08 November 2004 19:15
 To: pentax list
 Subject: Re: UK - Photog Doc tonight - P67?
 
 
 On 8/11/04, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Former supermodel Helena Chistensen turns into photographer in this 
 documentary airing tonight on BBC3 tonight (Monday) at 9pm.
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/tv/behind_the_lens.shtml
 
 That a Pentax 67 she's wielding in the top pic?
 
 
 Also on Weds evening on BBC 2 for those on terrestrial...
 
 
 
 Helena Christensen: Behind The Lens
 
 Mon 8 Nov at 21:00 on BBC Three
 Tue 9 Nov at 01:30 on BBC Three
 Wed 10 Nov at 00:45 on BBC Three
 Wed 10 Nov at 23:20 on BBC Two
 Sun 14 Nov at 02:55 on BBC Three
 
 
 
 Cheers,
   Cotty
 
 
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RE: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread Trevor Bailey
G'day Cotty.
Mate, The Australian Ebay www.ebay.com.au has been doing the same thing for
about the last month or so.
If I search for items available to Australia, It will show bid amounts for
items that are listed internationally as well as locally in Australia.
If I go to  the Pommy ebay, www.ebay.co.uk It will still do it as well.
If I go to the Septic Tank (Yank) ebay, www.ebay.com Same thing.

Hooroo.
Regards, Trevor
Grafton
Australia

-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 9 November 2004 7:42 PM
To: pentax list
Subject: eBay question


Just today I noticed something different about eBay. Previously, bid
amounts (on the Bid History page) of each unfinished auction were
protected - hidden - until the auction ended. Has this policy changed, or
is there a fault on eBay ? I can see every bid amount on all ongoing
auctions




Cheers,
  Cotty


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RE: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread Trevor Bailey
Forgot to mention...I use Win 98SE, Win XP Pro and Win 2000
Hooroo.
Regards, Trevor
Grafton

-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 9 November 2004 7:42 PM
To: pentax list
Subject: eBay question


Just today I noticed something different about eBay. Previously, bid
amounts (on the Bid History page) of each unfinished auction were
protected - hidden - until the auction ended. Has this policy changed, or
is there a fault on eBay ? I can see every bid amount on all ongoing
auctions




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread Brian Walters
H

Hadn't noticed this until you mentioned it but Trevor is right,
EBay.au shows all the bid amounts.

It appears that the only thing hidden is the maximum bid of the
current highest bidder.


Cheers

Brian



Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Just today I noticed something different about eBay. Previously,
 bid
 amounts (on the Bid History page) of each unfinished auction were
 protected - hidden - until the auction ended. Has this policy
 changed, or
 is there a fault on eBay ? I can see every bid amount on all
 ongoing
 auctions
 
 
 
 
 Cheers,
   Cotty
 
 
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Re: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/11/04, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:

Hadn't noticed this until you mentioned it but Trevor is right,
EBay.au shows all the bid amounts.

It appears that the only thing hidden is the maximum bid of the
current highest bidder.

Yep same here.

Mike Wilson, maybe the page you looked at is cached? I can see all bid
amounts on the history page...you sat you can't?




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Re: UK - Photog Doc tonight - P67?

2004-11-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/11/04, Rob Brigham, discombobulated, unleashed:

Not on my BBC2 - my guides say keep the aspidistra flying at 23:20.

Odd, the Radio Times says the same thing (aspidistra).


Missed it last night (knew it was on at 9:00, but watching some other
c**p), so cheers for the Heads up for tonight and Saturday night tho...

To be honest I thought the doc was crap. It was shot in a bitty handheld
style that makes me feel ill. The woman herself I found to be shallow and
aimless. He photography was okay if you like the style but IMO it was an
hour too long ;-)


Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread Keith Whaley

Trevor Bailey wrote:
Forgot to mention...I use Win 98SE, Win XP Pro and Win 2000
Hooroo.
Hah! Small wonder you say, Hooroo all the time.
Using all those OS's has made you bonkers!  g
keith whaley
Regards, Trevor
Grafton

-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 9 November 2004 7:42 PM
To: pentax list
Subject: eBay question
Just today I noticed something different about eBay. Previously, bid
amounts (on the Bid History page) of each unfinished auction were
protected - hidden - until the auction ended. Has this policy changed, or
is there a fault on eBay ? I can see every bid amount on all ongoing
auctions
[...]


Re: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/11/04, Keith Whaley, discombobulated, unleashed:


Hah! Small wonder you say, Hooroo all the time.
Using all those OS's has made you bonkers!  g

Keith, can you see the bid amounts on any unfinished auction on .com ?




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Re: PESO ('s) Ohio Cafe, etc... and notes on photo.net

2004-11-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hi Ann,
I love your On the road in Ohio. Makes me want to take a road trip 
and eat in some diners. Nice shot.
On Nov 9, 2004, at 1:19 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Geez.. it should have been so hard to get an image
up
I started with just one...
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2865228
I think you guys have seen that one before, but it
is a NON Pentax
I had to use the Save for Web thing in Photo shop
to get it uploaded --
two or three other shots fell by the wayside until
I got that straightened out -
I thought there were other problems
I presume you guys will know what this is and how
I did it.
http://users.rcn.com/annsan/notmyusualstyle.jpg
and I needed a kitten for comfort.
http://users.rcn.com/annsan/norasnewkitten2.jpg
(with the digicam)
Sadly, after I sent this picture out to some
friends who have met the little guy,
one of them wrote me that he had died at the vet
under anasthesia where we
was taken to be altered last week.  I took the
pictures in September - sure wish
I had sent one to my friend before the kitty left
us - but she really hates email so
probably would not see it unless one of her
daughters was there to retrieve it.
I really babble when I'm sick, guys sorry
ann achoo achoo san




Re: PAW: Black and white and colour

2004-11-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice effect and an interesting shot.
On Nov 9, 2004, at 1:34 AM, Leon Altoff wrote:
Hi all,
It's time for another picture from me.  This one is digitally
manipulated, and similar to one I've done before, but here it is.
http://www.bluering.org.au/leon/feature.htm
Comments welcome.
 Leon
http://www.bluering.org.au
http://www.bluering.org.au/leon




RE: UK - Photog Doc tonight - P67?

2004-11-09 Thread Rob Brigham
Yeah - I had seen her on interviews talking about her photogtaphy before
and wasn't too bothered about it.  Still worth a watch in recognition of
Pentax loyalty if nothing else...

 -Original Message-
 From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 09 November 2004 11:00
 To: pentax list
 Subject: Re: UK - Photog Doc tonight - P67?
 
 
 On 9/11/04, Rob Brigham, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Not on my BBC2 - my guides say keep the aspidistra flying at 23:20.
 
 Odd, the Radio Times says the same thing (aspidistra).
 
 
 Missed it last night (knew it was on at 9:00, but watching 
 some other 
 c**p), so cheers for the Heads up for tonight and Saturday 
 night tho...
 
 To be honest I thought the doc was crap. It was shot in a 
 bitty handheld style that makes me feel ill. The woman 
 herself I found to be shallow and aimless. He photography was 
 okay if you like the style but IMO it was an hour too long ;-)
 
 
 Cheers,
   Cotty
 
 
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Re: photo.net help

2004-11-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Photo net has some glitches from time to time. You should be using your 
actual e-mail address. However, if you typed it in wrong previously, 
Photo Net may not have it. Try again, and if it still doesn't work, 
register again using your correct e-mail address. It will tell you if 
that address is already registered to a member. If all else fails, open 
a hotmail e-mail box and register a new photo net account. I did 
exactly that in order to post some pics that I didn't want in my photo 
net folders. (Snapshots from a class reunion. I heard someone's mind 
working overtime :-)
Paul
On Nov 9, 2004, at 1:55 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

So once I logged off  - I tried to log on again
I put in my email, and what I thought I had typed
in as my password
and it said it was invalid.
Ok so it says email us and it will send correct
password
But when I click on the email us line it goes me
an error.
I am supposed to use my actual email address
right?
not the [EMAIL PROTECTED] for people to comment ?
This is the error I get when I click not email it
to you
Problem with Your Input
to www.photo.net
We had a problem processing your entry:
This script requires a resend. Are you using
the form?
Please back up using your browser, correct it, and
resubmit your entry.
Thank you.
___
Geez - sooo annoying...
I'm going to sleep soon I hope but Id much
appreciate any help from other photon users -
of course I wrote them, but they practically said
they didn't have time for this and might not
answer!
FRIENDLY!
annsan the annoyed and perplexed




Re: star trails refresher

2004-11-09 Thread Mishka
Beach near Orleans, MA (still very much *on shore*) is shown to have 
limiting magnitude 6.3 (-69.96399, 41.88289)
Orleans, MA 5.7

Boston 2.6
NYC 2.4

middle of the Atlantic ocean 6.8

Quite a difference, what do you think?

And, believe me, the skies there  (cape cod shore) are quite dark
indeed. Especially
off-season :)

Best,
Mishka

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 22:28:08 -0500, Peter J. Alling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'd check the results for Cape Cod before making any claims, Putting
 home halfway between Provincetown and Northeastham the darksky results
 are on an arc about 40 miles off shore towards the middle of the North
 Atlantic...
 
 
 
 Mishka wrote:
 
 amita said she's going to cape cod. that's more than 20 miles offshore and
 the skies there, although not quite like in AZ, are pretty dark.
 
 best,
 mishka
 
 
 On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 10:34:18 -0500, Peter J. Alling
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Interesting but not very useful if you live in a light polluted place
 like the NE US.  Every dark spot suggested is
 20 miles offshore...  (I didn't even look at where it put Amita from her
 location in New York, but I doubt she'd
 want to tread water at this time of yea)r.  Still playing with it was fun.
 
 
 
 Tim Sherburne wrote:
 
 
 
 On 11/8/04 0:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 I'm no expert on this but I think you may find that, virtually anywhere 
 in the
 NE USA, light pollution will inhibit decent results.
 
 
 
 
 This might help in anyone's quest for dark sky:
 
 http://www.darksky.org/ida/darksky/
 
 [Mike offers more good advice, then...]
 
 
 
 
 
 You can hear birds singing at 4.00am in the winter, here.
 
 
 
 
 Mike, I can't speak for your area, but I think some species of songbirds
 birds have a habit of rising early in general. There's something called the
 dawn chorus that gets going in the early morning hours in some parts of
 the world.
 
 t
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --
 I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
 During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
 and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during 
 peacetime.
 --P.J. O'Rourke
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --
 
 
 I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
 During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
 and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during 
 peacetime.
 --P.J. O'Rourke
 




Found On NewsGroup

2004-11-09 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Subject: WTB: Pentax MZ S  
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 09:20:27 GMT  
From: David Entwistle [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Newsgroups: rec.photo.marketplace.35mm  

I am looking to purchase a Pentax MZ S (and Battery Grip),
please let me
know if you have one to sell.

--

Regards

David Entwistle
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 





Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net


 
   



Re: photo.net help

2004-11-09 Thread brooksdj
Hi Ann.
I use an email to log in and a seperate password. Maybe your using the wrong 
email or
password.??

Hummm. They dont seem overly helpful now do they.


Dave

 So once I logged off  - I tried to 
log on again
 I put in my email, and what I thought I had typed
 in as my password
 and it said it was invalid.
 
 Ok so it says email us and it will send correct
 password
 But when I click on the email us line it goes me
 an error.
 
 I am supposed to use my actual email address
 right?
 not the [EMAIL PROTECTED] for people to comment ?
 
 This is the error I get when I click not email it
 to you
 
 Problem with Your Input
 
 to www.photo.net
 
 We had a problem processing your entry:
 
 This script requires a resend. Are you using
 the form?
 
 Please back up using your browser, correct it, and
 resubmit your entry.
 
 Thank you.
 
 ___
 Geez - sooo annoying...
 I'm going to sleep soon I hope but Id much
 appreciate any help from other photon users -
 of course I wrote them, but they practically said
 they didn't have time for this and might not
 answer!
 FRIENDLY!
 
 annsan the annoyed and perplexed
 
 
 






RE: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell
It changed sometime ago, I don't know why,
It shows actual bids, not your secret
maximum bid amount.
JCO

-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 3:42 AM
To: pentax list
Subject: eBay question


Just today I noticed something different about eBay. Previously, bid
amounts (on the Bid History page) of each unfinished auction were
protected - hidden - until the auction ended. Has this policy changed,
or is there a fault on eBay ? I can see every bid amount on all ongoing
auctions




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: how does the ZX-50 do with ttl flash?

2004-11-09 Thread David Zaninovic
I am sorry if you understood it like that, it was not my intention.  I was 
asking about TTL flash as I never used it and was
hoping that it would work correctly on *ist D/DS.  Theoretically it should be 
better so it is very strange to me that it is not.
Auto flash works great for me but in some situations it can make a mistake as 
it does not know all the facts that TTL flash would
know.

- Original Message - 
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: how does the ZX-50 do with ttl flash?



 - Original Message - 
 From: David Zaninovic
 Subject: Re: how does the ZX-50 do with ttl flash?


  I have given up on using the istD with TTL flash.
  It is totally useless in this regard.
 
  Shouldn't the TTL flash be more precise than auto flash ?
 

 I'm not going to get into another theoretical pissing contest.

 William Robb




Re: star trails refresher

2004-11-09 Thread brooksdj
Amita.
Just to give you an idea.
Here is one i did a few years ago in my back yard about 50 KM north of Toronto.

Time was about 1 hour exposure. As you can see 1 hour lit the tree quite 
well.Only light
around was a 
bit of a difused street light and a neigbours 100 watt porch light.

Dave

http://pug.komkon.org/01oct/brooks_11.html

 Beach near Orleans, MA (still very much *on 
shore*) is shown to have 
 limiting magnitude 6.3 (-69.96399, 41.88289)
 Orleans, MA 5.7
 
 Boston 2.6
 NYC 2.4
 
 middle of the Atlantic ocean 6.8
 
 Quite a difference, what do you think?
 
 And, believe me, the skies there  (cape cod shore) are quite dark
 indeed. Especially
 off-season :)
 
 Best,
 Mishka
 
 On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 22:28:08 -0500, Peter J. Alling
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'd check the results for Cape Cod before making any claims, Putting
  home halfway between Provincetown and Northeastham the darksky results
  are on an arc about 40 miles off shore towards the middle of the North
  Atlantic...
  
  
  
  Mishka wrote:
  
  amita said she's going to cape cod. that's more than 20 miles offshore 
  and
  the skies there, although not quite like in AZ, are pretty dark.
  
  best,
  mishka
  
  
  On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 10:34:18 -0500, Peter J. Alling
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  Interesting but not very useful if you live in a light polluted place
  like the NE US.  Every dark spot suggested is
  20 miles offshore...  (I didn't even look at where it put Amita from her
  location in New York, but I doubt she'd
  want to tread water at this time of yea)r.  Still playing with it was fun.
  
  
  
  Tim Sherburne wrote:
  
  
  
  On 11/8/04 0:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
  I'm no expert on this but I think you may find that, virtually anywhere 
  in the
  NE USA, light pollution will inhibit decent results.
  
  
  
  
  This might help in anyone's quest for dark sky:
  
  http://www.darksky.org/ida/darksky/
  
  [Mike offers more good advice, then...]
  
  
  
  
  
  You can hear birds singing at 4.00am in the winter, here.
  
  
  
  
  Mike, I can't speak for your area, but I think some species of songbirds
  birds have a habit of rising early in general. There's something called 
  the
  dawn chorus that gets going in the early morning hours in some parts of
  the world.
  
  t
  
  
  
  
  
  
  --
  I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
  During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
  and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during 
  peacetime.
  --P.J. O'Rourke
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  --
  
  
  I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
  During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
  and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during 
  peacetime.
  --P.J. O'Rourke
  
 
 






RE: PAW: Black and white and colour

2004-11-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi,

It doesn't work for me at all.  The conversion to BW is flat and dull, and
the rock stands out like a sore thumb, looking very out of place.  Being
centered in the frame as it is adds no tension or interest to the photo,
giving the image a rather static feel.

The idea of combining BW and color in one image is a good one.  Sometimes
desaturating the entire frame only partially, and leaving one or two areas
fully saturated is a good alternative, or just desaturating everything,
giving the photo a sort of faded look, works.  In this case it may be more
the subject and framing that needs improvement rather than the technique or
the idea.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Leon Altoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 It's time for another picture from me.  This one is digitally
 manipulated, and similar to one I've done before, but here it is.

 http://www.bluering.org.au/leon/feature.htm




RE: PESO ('s) Ohio Cafe, etc... and notes on photo.net

2004-11-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Ann ...

The diner shot doesn't make it for me.  The large dark area behind the
chair shows almost no detail, and is very distracting in that it causes the
photo to be way out of balance and harmony.  Is there something more than a
void behind the chair?  Let's see it.  The arrangement of the plates and
silverware on the table is only so-so, and would, imo, probably be shown to
better effect if there was more visible behind the chair.  The hat, I
think, while adding a bit to the story, takes away from the strength of the
image.  menu is a good touch  glad you kept it in.

Cat pic: Really a cute and friendly looking cat.  It made me very upset to
know that he died.  Then, when looking at his sweet face, my eyes welled up.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2865228

 and I needed a kitten for comfort.
 http://users.rcn.com/annsan/norasnewkitten2.jpg
 (with the digicam)

 Sadly, after I sent this picture out to some
 friends who have met the little guy,
 one of them wrote me that he had died at the vet




Re: PAW: Big Brother

2004-11-09 Thread Frantisek
Thanks. The issue of cropping or not was one I wanted some feedback
on, which the PAW is interesting for. I wasn't so sure if to crop it or not. 
How about this?

I made two alterations,

first slight crop:

http://fotof.wz.cz/paw/pawcrop.jpg

second altering the hue of the sky to better resemble what I remember
(but the first one colour's is more contrasty to the orange buildings)

http://fotof.wz.cz/paw/pawcrop2.jpg

What do you think?

Thanks

Frantisek



Re: star trails refresher

2004-11-09 Thread Frantisek
It's a pity I am in a big city :-(

will have to try these in the mountains some time...

Good light!
   fra



Re: how does the ZX-50 do with ttl flash?

2004-11-09 Thread Frantisek
  I have given up on using the istD with TTL flash.
  It is totally useless in this regard.

Out of curiosity, even with the P-TTL (preflash) ?

I found that preflash TTL does decent results with digital, and I saw
some nice ones from Gianfranco's new 360FGZ (just few frames when you
bought the flash here, how is it working for you, Gianfranco?)

Only gripe I have with pre-flash is that (especially if using a
wireless i-TTL or perhaps also the P-TTL wirelessly) there is a not
insignificant lag needed for the flashes to communicate. It can be a
nuisance if shooting fast people or something.

Good light!
   fra



Re: Re: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread m.9.wilson
I misunderstood what you were saying.  Thought you meant actual bid maxima.  
AFAIR, it has been like this for quite some time.

mike
 
 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2004/11/09 Tue AM 10:56:39 GMT
 To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: eBay question
 
 On 9/11/04, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Hadn't noticed this until you mentioned it but Trevor is right,
 EBay.au shows all the bid amounts.
 
 It appears that the only thing hidden is the maximum bid of the
 current highest bidder.
 
 Yep same here.
 
 Mike Wilson, maybe the page you looked at is cached? I can see all bid
 amounts on the history page...you sat you can't?
 
 
 
 
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RE: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread Jens Bladt
I can see the high bidder bid too! 

Jens Bladt
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http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Brian Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 9. november 2004 11:49
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: eBay question


H

Hadn't noticed this until you mentioned it but Trevor is right,
EBay.au shows all the bid amounts.

It appears that the only thing hidden is the maximum bid of the
current highest bidder.


Cheers

Brian



Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Just today I noticed something different about eBay. Previously,
 bid
 amounts (on the Bid History page) of each unfinished auction were
 protected - hidden - until the auction ended. Has this policy
 changed, or
 is there a fault on eBay ? I can see every bid amount on all
 ongoing
 auctions
 
 
 
 
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RE: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread Jens Bladt
Apparently it has. I can se the bid amount too. I'm not shure I think this
is a great idea!
Jens

Jens Bladt
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Fra: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 9. november 2004 09:42
Til: pentax list
Emne: eBay question


Just today I noticed something different about eBay. Previously, bid
amounts (on the Bid History page) of each unfinished auction were
protected - hidden - until the auction ended. Has this policy changed, or
is there a fault on eBay ? I can see every bid amount on all ongoing
auctions




Cheers,
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Re: Re: star trails refresher

2004-11-09 Thread m.9.wilson
Is that for astronomy or astrophotography?  There will be a difference in 
effect for the two disciplines.

I'm not being argumentative, just curious about a subject that I find quite 
interesting.

mike
 
 From: Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2004/11/09 Tue PM 12:17:07 GMT
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: star trails refresher
 
 Beach near Orleans, MA (still very much *on shore*) is shown to have 
 limiting magnitude 6.3 (-69.96399, 41.88289)
 Orleans, MA 5.7
 
 Boston 2.6
 NYC 2.4
 
 middle of the Atlantic ocean 6.8
 
 Quite a difference, what do you think?
 
 And, believe me, the skies there  (cape cod shore) are quite dark
 indeed. Especially
 off-season :)
 
 Best,
 Mishka
 
 On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 22:28:08 -0500, Peter J. Alling
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'd check the results for Cape Cod before making any claims, Putting
  home halfway between Provincetown and Northeastham the darksky results
  are on an arc about 40 miles off shore towards the middle of the North
  Atlantic...
  
  
  
  Mishka wrote:
  
  amita said she's going to cape cod. that's more than 20 miles offshore 
  and
  the skies there, although not quite like in AZ, are pretty dark.
  
  best,
  mishka
  
  
  On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 10:34:18 -0500, Peter J. Alling
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  Interesting but not very useful if you live in a light polluted place
  like the NE US.  Every dark spot suggested is
  20 miles offshore...  (I didn't even look at where it put Amita from her
  location in New York, but I doubt she'd
  want to tread water at this time of yea)r.  Still playing with it was fun.
  
  
  
  Tim Sherburne wrote:
  
  
  
  On 11/8/04 0:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
  I'm no expert on this but I think you may find that, virtually anywhere 
  in the
  NE USA, light pollution will inhibit decent results.
  
  
  
  
  This might help in anyone's quest for dark sky:
  
  http://www.darksky.org/ida/darksky/
  
  [Mike offers more good advice, then...]
  
  
  
  
  
  You can hear birds singing at 4.00am in the winter, here.
  
  
  
  
  Mike, I can't speak for your area, but I think some species of songbirds
  birds have a habit of rising early in general. There's something called 
  the
  dawn chorus that gets going in the early morning hours in some parts of
  the world.
  
  t
  
  
  
  
  
  
  --
  I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
  During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
  and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during 
  peacetime.
  --P.J. O'Rourke
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  --
  
  
  I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
  During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
  and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during 
  peacetime.
  --P.J. O'Rourke
  
 
 
 

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RE: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread Jens Bladt
Sorry - you are right Cotty - the actual high bid isn't shown, only the
reached bid price. If I bid 100 USD and the second highest bidder has bid 46
USD the high bid will read 47 USD (if the bid increment is 1 USD). My 100
USD bid is not shown on the screen. That's at least comforting, isn't it?

Jens Bladt
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http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 9. november 2004 16:10
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: Re: eBay question


I misunderstood what you were saying.  Thought you meant actual bid maxima.
AFAIR, it has been like this for quite some time.

mike

 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2004/11/09 Tue AM 10:56:39 GMT
 To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: eBay question

 On 9/11/04, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Hadn't noticed this until you mentioned it but Trevor is right,
 EBay.au shows all the bid amounts.
 
 It appears that the only thing hidden is the maximum bid of the
 current highest bidder.

 Yep same here.

 Mike Wilson, maybe the page you looked at is cached? I can see all bid
 amounts on the history page...you sat you can't?




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RE: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

It used to be that during an auction 
a) anyone could see the bidder list
b) at the end, the seller could see the amounts

Then it was all removed.

Tonight I'll also look at the current situation.
But it's really not difficult to figure out the amount of the #2 bidder.

Sincerely,

C. Brendemuehl

'Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to 
realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.'   Ronald Reagan 
 





Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net


 
   



Re: Idaho Skies Sunday Night

2004-11-09 Thread wendy beard
 --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 I walked outside and noticed a weird sky Sunday
 evening, checked to see if a 
 geomagnetic storm was in progress, and started
 shooting.  Space weather 
 sites categorized it as extreme.
  

http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=265867
 

Nice ones Tom!

We had a really good show here on Sunday night. Lots
of greens and lots of activity.
Wouldn't you just know it - I was out in the middle of
nowhere, perfect viewing with pretty much no light
polution - and no camera!
I was working at an event and would normally ~always~
have a camera with me but Sunday I was without vehicle
and as a result my gear was left at home.
I was hopeful for a good show again last night and was
prepared but only saw a few flickers around 6:30 pm.

Sigh.
Forecast is still good for the next two nights though.

Wendy



RE: PAW: Big Brother

2004-11-09 Thread Jens Bladt
It's a very nice picture Fratisek. All kinds of stories can be put into it.
I like all versions.
JEns

Jens Bladt
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http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Frantisek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 9. november 2004 15:42
Til: frank theriault
Emne: Re: PAW: Big Brother


Thanks. The issue of cropping or not was one I wanted some feedback
on, which the PAW is interesting for. I wasn't so sure if to crop it or not.
How about this?

I made two alterations,

first slight crop:

http://fotof.wz.cz/paw/pawcrop.jpg

second altering the hue of the sky to better resemble what I remember
(but the first one colour's is more contrasty to the orange buildings)

http://fotof.wz.cz/paw/pawcrop2.jpg

What do you think?

Thanks

Frantisek





Re: RE: OT: Drat! Just missed it

2004-11-09 Thread m.9.wilson
I would be _very_ suprised if you got any change out of seven figures Sterling. 
 That is _if_ you were allowed to fly it privately, anyway.  You would probably 
at least have to put some less offensive engines in, which rather negates the 
point of having one.  A Vulcan that sounds like a 737?  Pass.

mike


 
 From: Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2004/11/09 Tue AM 12:13:19 GMT
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: OT: Drat! Just missed it
 
 Just musing here, but what's an educated guess at the cost to get it in
 the air? 
 For arguments sake, let's say the frame was sound, and the engines just
 needed a CLA.
 ...just in case another one comes up :-)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, 8 November 2004 2:41 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: OT: Drat! Just missed it
 
 15 thousand Pounds Sterling?  That I have, (barely), getting it into the
 
 air, or trucked to somewhere to get it into the air, that's the
 problem...
 
 frank theriault wrote:
 
 On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 18:43:25 +, mike wilson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 
 Would have been fun trying to prove them wrong
 
 http://cgi1.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?RedirectEnterpartner=
 03loc=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi%2Eebay%2Eco%2Euk%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI%2Edll%3FViewIt
 em%26item%3D5530699633%26category%3D2979%26ssPageName%3DADME%3AB%3AEF%3A
 UK%3A1
 
 
 
 
 When I was a kid, I thought the Vulcan was the coolest looking bomber
 ever.  Who'da thunk I'd have a chance to buy one?  All that would have
 been missing would be the money!  vbg
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 
   
 
 
 
 -- 
 I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
 During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
 and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
 peacetime.
   --P.J. O'Rourke
 
 
 
 

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Re: how does the ZX-50 do with ttl flash?

2004-11-09 Thread Peter J. Alling
Actually no,  I use old AF280T flashes.  Since the MZ-3 and ZX5n don't 
seem to be capable of higher than
sync (125/100 respectively), speed flash I didn't see any point in 
upgrading to the AF400FTZ.  The results with the AF280T are
very good as long as I keep within limitations imposed by the flashes 
output.

John Whittingham wrote:
It is in the LX, MZ-3 ZX5n in my experience.  There have been 
problems reported with the *ist-d.
   

Hi Peter
Ever tried the MZ-3 ZX-5n with the AF400FTZ, would you care to comment on 
performance?

John
-- Original Message ---
From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 21:54:24 -0500
Subject: Re: how does the ZX-50 do with ttl flash?
 

It is in the LX, MZ-3 ZX5n in my experience.  There have been 
problems reported with the *ist-d.

David Zaninovic wrote:
   

I have given up on using the istD with TTL flash.
It is totally useless in this regard.
  

   

Shouldn't the TTL flash be more precise than auto flash ?

 

--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during 
peacetime. 	--P.J. O'Rourke
   

--- End of Original Message ---
 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




OT: Rebates

2004-11-09 Thread Caveman
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0411/04110803canonnikon_slrrebates.asp



Re: star trails refresher

2004-11-09 Thread Peter J. Alling
I'm just reporting the results I get from the tool.  Maybe I'm doing 
something wrong...

Mishka wrote:
Beach near Orleans, MA (still very much *on shore*) is shown to have 
limiting magnitude 6.3 (-69.96399, 41.88289)
Orleans, MA 5.7

Boston 2.6
NYC 2.4
middle of the Atlantic ocean 6.8
Quite a difference, what do you think?
And, believe me, the skies there  (cape cod shore) are quite dark
indeed. Especially
off-season :)
Best,
Mishka
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 22:28:08 -0500, Peter J. Alling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

I'd check the results for Cape Cod before making any claims, Putting
home halfway between Provincetown and Northeastham the darksky results
are on an arc about 40 miles off shore towards the middle of the North
Atlantic...

Mishka wrote:
   

amita said she's going to cape cod. that's more than 20 miles offshore and
the skies there, although not quite like in AZ, are pretty dark.
best,
mishka
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 10:34:18 -0500, Peter J. Alling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Interesting but not very useful if you live in a light polluted place
like the NE US.  Every dark spot suggested is
20 miles offshore...  (I didn't even look at where it put Amita from her
location in New York, but I doubt she'd
want to tread water at this time of yea)r.  Still playing with it was fun.

Tim Sherburne wrote:

   

On 11/8/04 0:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 

I'm no expert on this but I think you may find that, virtually anywhere in the
NE USA, light pollution will inhibit decent results.

   

This might help in anyone's quest for dark sky:
http://www.darksky.org/ida/darksky/
[Mike offers more good advice, then...]


 

You can hear birds singing at 4.00am in the winter, here.

   

Mike, I can't speak for your area, but I think some species of songbirds
birds have a habit of rising early in general. There's something called the
dawn chorus that gets going in the early morning hours in some parts of
the world.
t


 

--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
  --P.J. O'Rourke

   


 

--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
   --P.J. O'Rourke
   


 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: PAW: Black and white and colour

2004-11-09 Thread Frantisek

I the idea of local colour can be very good if used well. But used here,
it is too perfect, for this picture.

 [Original Message]
 From: Leon Altoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 It's time for another picture from me.  This one is digitally
 manipulated, and similar to one I've done before, but here it is.

 http://www.bluering.org.au/leon/feature.htm






Good light!
   fra



Re: OT: Rebates

2004-11-09 Thread Peter J. Alling
So, the digital price wars heat up. You knew it would happen.  I'm 
waiting for them to
give me the camera and  a check before I'll get a modern Canon.

Caveman wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0411/04110803canonnikon_slrrebates.asp


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: UK - Photog Doc tonight - P67?

2004-11-09 Thread Steve Jolly
Cotty wrote:
To be honest I thought the doc was crap. It was shot in a bitty handheld
style that makes me feel ill. The woman herself I found to be shallow and
aimless. He photography was okay if you like the style but IMO it was an
hour too long ;-)
I hope I'm not the only one to get incredibly annoyed by producers 
skimping on the cost of steadicam operators and rigs (or maybe just 
tripods) and then marketing their programmes as edgy...

S


Airport X-ray and films

2004-11-09 Thread Caveman
So, where to keep the films ?
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TRAVEL/11/09/bt.xray.reut/index.html


Re: OT: Rebates

2004-11-09 Thread Steve Jolly
Caveman wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0411/04110803canonnikon_slrrebates.asp
OT standing for On-Topic, I presume?  I've often considered adopting 
that way of marking posts to this list... :-)

S


Re: New Stuff to Show

2004-11-09 Thread Butch Black
On 8/11/04, Larry Hodgson, discombobulated, unleashed:

I have not yet tried Ilford Gallerie. Thanks for the tip. Next time I order
paper I'll give it a try.

Larry, I use the Smooth Gloss for mounting behind glass, and the Smooth
Pearl for everything else. I must give the others a try sometime.

best




Cheers,
  Cotty


I've pretty much standardized on Ilford Gallerie Smooth Gloss for printing
on my Epson 2200. I still like the profiles for Pictorico gallery glossy
paper better then the Ilford or Epson's profiles (for printing Ilford
paper). They don't list one for the 4000. You could try using the 2200
profile as the inks are the same (assuming you use profiles which I highly
recommend) It would be worth a couple sheets of paper. Otherwise try the
Epson profiles you can download from their site.



Butch




RE: UK - Photog Doc tonight - P67?

2004-11-09 Thread Rob Brigham
The worst offender is a program called 'its nice to be xxx...' which the
missus sometimes tries to watch where they look at the lifestyles of
Rich  Famous.  All zooms and pans and flicking all over the place.
Cookery programs often do the same now, although never as bad as this
program...

 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Jolly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 09 November 2004 16:10
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: UK - Photog Doc tonight - P67?
 
 
 Cotty wrote:
  To be honest I thought the doc was crap. It was shot in a bitty 
  handheld style that makes me feel ill. The woman herself I 
 found to be 
  shallow and aimless. He photography was okay if you like 
 the style but 
  IMO it was an hour too long ;-)
 
 I hope I'm not the only one to get incredibly annoyed by producers 
 skimping on the cost of steadicam operators and rigs (or maybe just 
 tripods) and then marketing their programmes as edgy...
 
 S
 
 



Re: Woodstock photos

2004-11-09 Thread Butch Black
They're now all 50 something lawyers and accountants :)

Dan wrote

Where are all the nekkid hippies?

Amita Guha wrote:

Last month, we spent a weekend up in Woodstock, NY. I wanted to get these
photos up before our trip this week:
http://sunny16.smugmug.com/gallery/278207

I shot exclusively with the Tamron 90mm and the Tokina 24-200mm on the
*istD. 




RE: OT: Rebates

2004-11-09 Thread Don Sanderson
Actually it stands for Off Topic!
Covers about 75% of the posts. ;-)

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Jolly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 10:12 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: OT: Rebates
 
 
 Caveman wrote:
  http://www.dpreview.com/news/0411/04110803canonnikon_slrrebates.asp
 
 OT standing for On-Topic, I presume?  I've often considered adopting 
 that way of marking posts to this list... :-)
 
 S
 



Re: Airport X-ray and films

2004-11-09 Thread Peter J. Alling
If it's safe for you' it's safe for the film.  Especially if you keep it 
in a lead lined bag.
OTOH keeping something in such a bag will cause them to do a hand 
search, since it will
clearly show up on the scanner.

I have other problems with this however which I doubt will ever be 
addressed. 

Caveman wrote:
So, where to keep the films ?
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TRAVEL/11/09/bt.xray.reut/index.html


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread Keith Whaley

Cotty wrote:
On 9/11/04, Keith Whaley, discombobulated, unleashed:

Hah! Small wonder you say, Hooroo all the time.
Using all those OS's has made you bonkers!  g

Keith, can you see the bid amounts on any unfinished auction on .com ?
I'll go look...
Yes, I can.
I opened an auction window with an item for sale in it, and under the 
bid history I clicked on that number, say, 9 bids, and sure enough, 
all bidders and their respective amounts did show up.
I notice it does say:
Only actual bids (not automatic bids generated up to a bidder's 
maximum) are shown.

Therefore, if I use my usual strategy of placing my maximum bid early 
on, and let their automatic raise you $2 scheme take over the bidding 
for me, those amounts will apparently not be shown.
I haven't thought about it all that much, but that seems a bit odd...

keith
Cheers,
  Cotty



Re: photo.net help

2004-11-09 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Photo net has some glitches from time to time. You should be using your
 actual e-mail address. However, if you typed it in wrong previously,
 Photo Net may not have it. Try again, and if it still doesn't work,
 register again using your correct e-mail address. It will tell you if
 that address is already registered to a member. If all else fails, open
 a hotmail e-mail box and register a new photo net account. I did
 exactly that in order to post some pics that I didn't want in my photo
 net folders. (Snapshots from a class reunion. I heard someone's mind
 working overtime :-)
 Paul

Thanks, Paul
I tried about 3 times last night - but I'll try again - however, as I PAID
already
through Paypal  sigh -

The other annoyance was it was insisiting a post a month date and year for
when I
took a photo, as if everyone had a date stamp on their images. sheesh.

ann


 On Nov 9, 2004, at 1:55 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

  So once I logged off  - I tried to log on again
  I put in my email, and what I thought I had typed
  in as my password
  and it said it was invalid.
 
  Ok so it says email us and it will send correct
  password
  But when I click on the email us line it goes me
  an error.
 
  I am supposed to use my actual email address
  right?
  not the [EMAIL PROTECTED] for people to comment ?
 
  This is the error I get when I click not email it
  to you
 
  Problem with Your Input
 
  to www.photo.net
 
  We had a problem processing your entry:
 
  This script requires a resend. Are you using
  the form?
 
  Please back up using your browser, correct it, and
  resubmit your entry.
 
  Thank you.
 
  ___
  Geez - sooo annoying...
  I'm going to sleep soon I hope but Id much
  appreciate any help from other photon users -
  of course I wrote them, but they practically said
  they didn't have time for this and might not
  answer!
  FRIENDLY!
 
  annsan the annoyed and perplexed
 
 
 



RE: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread Don Sanderson
Actually it really doesn't tell you much
even though the bids show now.
You don't know what bids have been placed
manually and which by auto proxy, unless you 
care to watch the times very carefully.
You still have no clue what a persons *high
bid* is until he's *outbid*.
If you look carefully though you can sort of
seperate the nibblers from the serious bidders.
Has no effect at all on how I bid on an item.
I bid the maximum amount I'm willing to pay,
at the last possible instant.
No one ever sees my bid till it's too late.
I either win or lose with that one bid, I
NEVER bid more than once.

Don



 -Original Message-
 From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:42 AM
 To: pentax list
 Subject: eBay question
 
 
 Just today I noticed something different about eBay. Previously, bid
 amounts (on the Bid History page) of each unfinished auction were
 protected - hidden - until the auction ended. Has this policy changed, or
 is there a fault on eBay ? I can see every bid amount on all ongoing
 auctions
 
 
 
 
 Cheers,
   Cotty
 
 
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RE: PEMOS:Update to: Work across Canada folder

2004-11-09 Thread brooksdj
 This is very intersting. Perhaps I 
should start 
scanning old negs and slides
 as well, even though my work is not that spectacular or picturesque.
 regards
 
 Jens Bladt

Thanks and i'm glad you liked them.I have quite a few from work,but they tend 
to be
repetative,so i 
have to be selective.g

Dave




Re: Color Print Film Question

2004-11-09 Thread Albano Garcia

Agfa Ultra (iso 100)

Regards

Albano

--- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What would be a good choice of color print film for
 a heavily overcast day.
 Slower speed films preferred.  I was thinking of
 Reala as it seems punchy
 enuf to overcame the greyness of the day.
 
 Shel 
 
 
 


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Re: photo.net help

2004-11-09 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Ann.
 I use an email to log in and a seperate password. Maybe your using the wrong 
 email or
 password.??

 Hummm. They dont seem overly helpful now do they.

 Dave

Hmmm well I checked the box for notify me of comments' - then they wanted me 
to be
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and they would forward to my real one - wonder if that mucked 
it up.
I jsut thought I had to do it.  I don't have any web based email addresses I 
use my own for
everything,
except for having an alias on aol (dont ask it only costs $4.95 a month) That 
Ive had forever
and
never go to.

I thought it MIGHT have something to do with my clunky old browser.

I think I probably hit a wrong key on my password (I didnt forget it I wrote it 
down)
and they dont have you typing it twice like at other sites.

ann



  So once I logged off  - I tried to 
 log on again
  I put in my email, and what I thought I had typed
  in as my password
  and it said it was invalid.
 
  Ok so it says email us and it will send correct
  password
  But when I click on the email us line it goes me
  an error.
 
  I am supposed to use my actual email address
  right?
  not the [EMAIL PROTECTED] for people to comment ?
 
  This is the error I get when I click not email it
  to you
 
  Problem with Your Input
 
  to www.photo.net
 
  We had a problem processing your entry:
 
  This script requires a resend. Are you using
  the form?
 
  Please back up using your browser, correct it, and
  resubmit your entry.
 
  Thank you.
 
  ___
  Geez - sooo annoying...
  I'm going to sleep soon I hope but Id much
  appreciate any help from other photon users -
  of course I wrote them, but they practically said
  they didn't have time for this and might not
  answer!
  FRIENDLY!
 
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Re: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/11/04, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed:

Sorry - you are right Cotty - the actual high bid isn't shown, only the
reached bid price. If I bid 100 USD and the second highest bidder has bid 46
USD the high bid will read 47 USD (if the bid increment is 1 USD). My 100
USD bid is not shown on the screen. That's at least comforting, isn't it?

Neither here nor there for the snipers ;-)




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Re: PEMOS:Update to: Work across Canada folder

2004-11-09 Thread brooksdj
Frank Said:  
 
 Wonderful stuff there, Dave!
 
 Thanks for posting it.
 
 cheers,
 frank

Then Cotty said:
Nice stuff there Brooksy. Love the dude getting his hair cut :-)

Great stuff. Thanks for posting.

Thanks fella's. One thing about a get home every night desk job, less 
travelling,less
pictures.LOL

I have more to add at a later date.

Dave





Re: UK - Photog Doc tonight - P67?

2004-11-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/11/04, Rob Brigham, discombobulated, unleashed:

The worst offender is a program called 'its nice to be xxx...' which the
missus sometimes tries to watch where they look at the lifestyles of
Rich  Famous.  All zooms and pans and flicking all over the place.
Cookery programs often do the same now, although never as bad as this
program...

NYPD Blue was an early adopter - I found it unwatchable.




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Re: New Stuff to Show

2004-11-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/11/04, Butch Black, discombobulated, unleashed:

I've pretty much standardized on Ilford Gallerie Smooth Gloss for printing
on my Epson 2200. I still like the profiles for Pictorico gallery glossy
paper better then the Ilford or Epson's profiles (for printing Ilford
paper). They don't list one for the 4000. You could try using the 2200
profile as the inks are the same (assuming you use profiles which I highly
recommend) It would be worth a couple sheets of paper. Otherwise try the
Epson profiles you can download from their site.



Butch

Thanks Butch.




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Re: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/11/04, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed:

No one ever sees my bid till it's too late.
I either win or lose with that one bid, I
NEVER bid more than once.

Don

Thems fightin words don ptui






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Re: PESO ('s) Ohio Cafe, etc... and notes on photo.net

2004-11-09 Thread Ann Sanfedele
thanks, Paul
That was a therapy shot for me.  When you are down and out pick up your
camera, thats what I say.
Funny that I used that shot for the first one, because I had a cold the
day I took it and
have one now.

Long story goes with it, but pretty boring :)   Suffice it to say I was
miserable that day,
but I escaped into the camera.  I wish I had taken it with a real
camera but the real cameras
were loaded with slower film and I was muddled anyway.

and Im pretty muddled now too :)

annsan

Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Hi Ann,
 I love your On the road in Ohio. Makes me want to take a road trip
 and eat in some diners. Nice shot.
 On Nov 9, 2004, at 1:19 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

  Geez.. it should have been so hard to get an image
  up
  I started with just one...
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2865228
 
  I think you guys have seen that one before, but it
  is a NON Pentax
 
  I had to use the Save for Web thing in Photo shop
  to get it uploaded --
  two or three other shots fell by the wayside until
  I got that straightened out -
  I thought there were other problems
 
  I presume you guys will know what this is and how
  I did it.
  http://users.rcn.com/annsan/notmyusualstyle.jpg
 
  and I needed a kitten for comfort.
  http://users.rcn.com/annsan/norasnewkitten2.jpg
  (with the digicam)
 
  Sadly, after I sent this picture out to some
  friends who have met the little guy,
  one of them wrote me that he had died at the vet
  under anasthesia where we
  was taken to be altered last week.  I took the
  pictures in September - sure wish
  I had sent one to my friend before the kitty left
  us - but she really hates email so
  probably would not see it unless one of her
  daughters was there to retrieve it.
 
  I really babble when I'm sick, guys sorry
 
  ann achoo achoo san
 
 



RE: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I think why they are posting the data they
do now is there isnt anything shown now that you
couldn't have determined by following the
auction from the beginning continuously before but
not you don't have to bother with that heroic effort.
I like the change.
JCO

-Original Message-
From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: eBay question


Actually it really doesn't tell you much
even though the bids show now.
You don't know what bids have been placed
manually and which by auto proxy, unless you 
care to watch the times very carefully.
You still have no clue what a persons *high
bid* is until he's *outbid*.
If you look carefully though you can sort of
seperate the nibblers from the serious bidders.
Has no effect at all on how I bid on an item.
I bid the maximum amount I'm willing to pay,
at the last possible instant.
No one ever sees my bid till it's too late.
I either win or lose with that one bid, I
NEVER bid more than once.

Don



 -Original Message-
 From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:42 AM
 To: pentax list
 Subject: eBay question
 
 
 Just today I noticed something different about eBay. Previously, bid 
 amounts (on the Bid History page) of each unfinished auction were 
 protected - hidden - until the auction ended. Has this policy changed,

 or is there a fault on eBay ? I can see every bid amount on all 
 ongoing auctions
 
 
 
 
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RE: Airport X-ray and films

2004-11-09 Thread Jens Bladt
I guess pictures like this of celebrities like Brad Pitt, Mel Gibson, Kevin
Costner, Tom Cruise etc. could be worth quite a lot in the open market. Not
to mention Julia Roberts, Juliette Binoche, Jenifer Garner, Gwyneth Paltrow,
Meg Ryan, Cindy Crawford etc. etc.  :-)

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 9. november 2004 17:49
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: Airport X-ray and films


If it's safe for you' it's safe for the film.  Especially if you keep it
in a lead lined bag.
OTOH keeping something in such a bag will cause them to do a hand
search, since it will
clearly show up on the scanner.

I have other problems with this however which I doubt will ever be
addressed.

Caveman wrote:

 So, where to keep the films ?

 http://www.cnn.com/2004/TRAVEL/11/09/bt.xray.reut/index.html




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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
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RE: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Of course keeping your secret bid secret
IS VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY important. 


People/snipers could bid slightly
less than your max and drive up the price
you pay knowing that they are not going to
be the buyer! 

Revealing the secret proxy bidding bids would essentially
DESTROY ebay and its never going to happen.

JCO

-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:31 PM
To: pentax list
Subject: Re: eBay question


On 9/11/04, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed:

Sorry - you are right Cotty - the actual high bid isn't shown, only the

reached bid price. If I bid 100 USD and the second highest bidder has 
bid 46 USD the high bid will read 47 USD (if the bid increment is 1 
USD). My 100 USD bid is not shown on the screen. That's at least 
comforting, isn't it?

Neither here nor there for the snipers ;-)




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Re: PESO ('s) Ohio Cafe, etc... and notes on photo.net

2004-11-09 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 Hi Ann ...

 The diner shot doesn't make it for me.  The large dark area behind the
 chair shows almost no detail, and is very distracting in that it causes the
 photo to be way out of balance and harmony.  Is there something more than a
 void behind the chair?  Let's see it.  The arrangement of the plates and
 silverware on the table is only so-so, and would, imo, probably be shown to
 better effect if there was more visible behind the chair.  The hat, I
 think, while adding a bit to the story, takes away from the strength of the
 image.  menu is a good touch  glad you kept it in.

Oh well.  I took one shot with a throw away camera.  I scanned from the print
not the neg, and photo.net didn't like my original so I had to go back into
photoshop after an hour of frustration on photo.net and use the CREATE FOR WEB
thing... so the technical glitches may have come from that.

Nothing behind that chair - too bad it doesn't work for you - it is one of my
favorites -
I do wish I'd gotten it with better equipment, but I'm lucky I was able to take
a picture at
all that day.   I do think it has enough emotional impact to share it with
others.  But
then you and I really are seldom on the same page re what we shoot and what we
like.

ann




 Cat pic: Really a cute and friendly looking cat.  It made me very upset to
 know that he died.  Then, when looking at his sweet face, my eyes welled up.

 Shel

  [Original Message]
  From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2865228

  and I needed a kitten for comfort.
  http://users.rcn.com/annsan/norasnewkitten2.jpg
  (with the digicam)
 
  Sadly, after I sent this picture out to some
  friends who have met the little guy,
  one of them wrote me that he had died at the vet



RE: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread Jens Bladt
Quite right! 

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: J. C. O'Connell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 9. november 2004 18:52
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: RE: eBay question


Of course keeping your secret bid secret
IS VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY important. 


People/snipers could bid slightly
less than your max and drive up the price
you pay knowing that they are not going to
be the buyer! 

Revealing the secret proxy bidding bids would essentially
DESTROY ebay and its never going to happen.

JCO

-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:31 PM
To: pentax list
Subject: Re: eBay question


On 9/11/04, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed:

Sorry - you are right Cotty - the actual high bid isn't shown, only the

reached bid price. If I bid 100 USD and the second highest bidder has 
bid 46 USD the high bid will read 47 USD (if the bid increment is 1 
USD). My 100 USD bid is not shown on the screen. That's at least 
comforting, isn't it?

Neither here nor there for the snipers ;-)




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RE: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread Don Sanderson
That's right pilgrim!
On the count a' three y'all draw yer mouse and click! ;-)

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:37 AM
 To: pentax list
 Subject: Re: eBay question
 
 
 On 9/11/04, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 No one ever sees my bid till it's too late.
 I either win or lose with that one bid, I
 NEVER bid more than once.
 
 Don
 
 Thems fightin words don ptui
 
 
 
 
 
 
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PESO - 17 mile drive

2004-11-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
Well, I have been very busy for the last month or so and have had
a hard time even trying to keep up with the list, let alone the
PESO's.

This past weekend my wife and I had to pick up our oldest daughter
from a band competition in Monterey, CA.  We took advantage of the
opportunity to visit Pinnacles National Monument (a first for us) and
a drive on 17 mile drive near Carmel.  I'll try to post some of the
pics of the trip over the next few days.

Here is the first - shot on *istD, DA 16-45, handheld.  As we got on
the 17 mile drive, it was late afternoon and the clouds were rolling
in.  This shot reflects the feelings of the time. Not dark, but
certainly not a sunny evening.

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/pinnacles_0100.htm

Comments welcome.


Bruce





Re: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread David Zaninovic
Bidding before the last moment is counterproductive. :)

- Original Message - 
From: Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: eBay question


 That's right pilgrim!
 On the count a' three y'all draw yer mouse and click! ;-)
 
 Don
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:37 AM
  To: pentax list
  Subject: Re: eBay question
  
  
  On 9/11/04, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed:
  
  No one ever sees my bid till it's too late.
  I either win or lose with that one bid, I
  NEVER bid more than once.
  
  Don
  
  Thems fightin words don ptui
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Cheers,
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Re: PESO - 17 mile drive

2004-11-09 Thread Christian


Bruce Dayton wrote on 11/9/2004, 1:30 PM:


  http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/pinnacles_0100.htm
 

Great shot, Bruce.  Wonderful mood.
The California coast is one of my favorite places to visit.  I haven't 
been to Monterey in 20+ years.  I need to get back.

-- 
Christian
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: PESO - 17 mile drive

2004-11-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Brings back some fond memories 

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 11/9/2004 10:35:46 AM
 Subject: PESO - 17 mile drive

 Well, I have been very busy for the last month or so and have had
 a hard time even trying to keep up with the list, let alone the
 PESO's.

 This past weekend my wife and I had to pick up our oldest daughter
 from a band competition in Monterey, CA.  We took advantage of the
 opportunity to visit Pinnacles National Monument (a first for us) and
 a drive on 17 mile drive near Carmel.  I'll try to post some of the
 pics of the trip over the next few days.

 Here is the first - shot on *istD, DA 16-45, handheld.  As we got on
 the 17 mile drive, it was late afternoon and the clouds were rolling
 in.  This shot reflects the feelings of the time. Not dark, but
 certainly not a sunny evening.

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/pinnacles_0100.htm

 Comments welcome.


 Bruce






Re: photo.net help - phew - back in!

2004-11-09 Thread Ann Sanfedele


Paul, thanks much for your help - that signing up again helped.
Apparently I had to resubmit all the details i had put in when I first
signed
on months ago.  Sigh.

Now I have to work on getting a portfolio up.

annsan




Re: Airport X-ray and films

2004-11-09 Thread Bob W
Hi,

 So, where to keep the films ?

 http://www.cnn.com/2004/TRAVEL/11/09/bt.xray.reut/index.html

they should fit quite nicely inside the barrels of a shotgun.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob



Re: PESO - 17 mile drive

2004-11-09 Thread pnstenquist
Beautiful photo. I love the light and the richness of the color. Nice work.
Paul


 Well, I have been very busy for the last month or so and have had
 a hard time even trying to keep up with the list, let alone the
 PESO's.
 
 This past weekend my wife and I had to pick up our oldest daughter
 from a band competition in Monterey, CA.  We took advantage of the
 opportunity to visit Pinnacles National Monument (a first for us) and
 a drive on 17 mile drive near Carmel.  I'll try to post some of the
 pics of the trip over the next few days.
 
 Here is the first - shot on *istD, DA 16-45, handheld.  As we got on
 the 17 mile drive, it was late afternoon and the clouds were rolling
 in.  This shot reflects the feelings of the time. Not dark, but
 certainly not a sunny evening.
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/pinnacles_0100.htm
 
 Comments welcome.
 
 
 Bruce
 
 
 



Re: Woodstock photos

2004-11-09 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Amita Guha wrote:

 Last month, we spent a weekend up in Woodstock, NY. I wanted to get these
 photos up before our trip this week:
 http://sunny16.smugmug.com/gallery/278207

 I shot exclusively with the Tamron 90mm and the Tokina 24-200mm on the
 *istD.

 Amita

Amita - photo number 5 jumped out at me first...
some nice stuff here but I think the portfolio as a whole would be stronger
if
you cut back on the near dups  - always hard to chose, I know.  from
8,9,11,12  - pick one you like best..
also, one of either 3 and 4 ... etc...  I think would make for a stronger
presentation on the 1st page...

Looks like you are working hard!

Best,
ann



Re: Woodstock photos - where are they now?

2004-11-09 Thread Ann Sanfedele

10 years after Woodstock Rex Weiner and Deanne Stillman published
WOODSTOCK CENSUS  (viking press, ISBN 0-670-78206-8)

I was working as a computer spec writer then and did the tab work on it.
The questions were wild and the answers, too - but even 10 years later,
alas, most of them became lawyers and accountants.

it is a fun read, - the keypunchers sure enjoyed reading the open end
questions!

annsan she who has word many hats


Butch Black wrote:

 They're now all 50 something lawyers and accountants :)

 Dan wrote

 Where are all the nekkid hippies?

 Amita Guha wrote:

 Last month, we spent a weekend up in Woodstock, NY. I wanted to get these
 photos up before our trip this week:
 http://sunny16.smugmug.com/gallery/278207
 
 I shot exclusively with the Tamron 90mm and the Tokina 24-200mm on the
 *istD.



Re: PESO - 17 mile drive

2004-11-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
Bruce as nice a capture as it is I'm  looking at it and asking is that all 
there is? The shore lines from left, center  right lead my eyes out to sea and 
leave me there.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: PESO - 17 mile drive

Well, I have been very busy for the last month or so and have had
a hard time even trying to keep up with the list, let alone the
PESO's.

This past weekend my wife and I had to pick up our oldest daughter
from a band competition in Monterey, CA.  We took advantage of the
opportunity to visit Pinnacles National Monument (a first for us) and
a drive on 17 mile drive near Carmel.  I'll try to post some of the
pics of the trip over the next few days.

Here is the first - shot on *istD, DA 16-45, handheld.  As we got on
the 17 mile drive, it was late afternoon and the clouds were rolling
in.  This shot reflects the feelings of the time. Not dark, but
certainly not a sunny evening.

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/pinnacles_0100.htm

Comments welcome.


Bruce






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Re: PAW: Black and white and colour

2004-11-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
Well done Leon, I especially like the composition - simple  uncluttered. 

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: Leon Altoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 9, 2004 1:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PAW: Black and white and colour

Hi all,

It's time for another picture from me.  This one is digitally
manipulated, and similar to one I've done before, but here it is.

http://www.bluering.org.au/leon/feature.htm

Comments welcome.


 Leon

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RE: PESO - 17 mile drive

2004-11-09 Thread Tom C
Lovely shot Bruce.  I see an excellent composition.  I like how the rocks on 
the left lead the eye out into the water. The subtle color contrasts are 
just beautiful.

I'm curious what mode this was shot in... Raw, JPG, TIF?  Is it a single 
shot or a blend of several exposures?.  In any case it's beautful and a nice 
piece if art.


Tom C.


From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO - 17 mile drive
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:30:40 -0800
Well, I have been very busy for the last month or so and have had
a hard time even trying to keep up with the list, let alone the
PESO's.
This past weekend my wife and I had to pick up our oldest daughter
from a band competition in Monterey, CA.  We took advantage of the
opportunity to visit Pinnacles National Monument (a first for us) and
a drive on 17 mile drive near Carmel.  I'll try to post some of the
pics of the trip over the next few days.
Here is the first - shot on *istD, DA 16-45, handheld.  As we got on
the 17 mile drive, it was late afternoon and the clouds were rolling
in.  This shot reflects the feelings of the time. Not dark, but
certainly not a sunny evening.
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/pinnacles_0100.htm
Comments welcome.
Bruce




Re: PESO - 17 mile drive

2004-11-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hmmm...That is all there is.  Having been there several times, there
is nothing out there beyond what you see.  I see the sun shafts out on
the horizon and that resolves the image for me.  I think it is more of
a mood shot rather than a picture of a very specific subject that
leaps out at you.

Thanks for the comments.

Bruce


Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 11:47:48 AM, you wrote:

KW Bruce as nice a capture as it is I'm  looking at it and
KW asking is that all there is? The shore lines from left, center 
KW right lead my eyes out to sea and leave me there.

KW -Original Message-
KW From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

KW Subject: PESO - 17 mile drive

KW Well, I have been very busy for the last month or so and have had
KW a hard time even trying to keep up with the list, let alone the
KW PESO's.

KW This past weekend my wife and I had to pick up our oldest daughter
KW from a band competition in Monterey, CA.  We took advantage of the
KW opportunity to visit Pinnacles National Monument (a first for us) and
KW a drive on 17 mile drive near Carmel.  I'll try to post some of the
KW pics of the trip over the next few days.

KW Here is the first - shot on *istD, DA 16-45, handheld.  As we got on
KW the 17 mile drive, it was late afternoon and the clouds were rolling
KW in.  This shot reflects the feelings of the time. Not dark, but
KW certainly not a sunny evening.

KW http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/pinnacles_0100.htm

KW Comments welcome.


KW Bruce





KW 
KW PeoplePC Online
KW A better way to Internet
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Re: PESO - 17 mile drive

2004-11-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Tom,

It was shot in Raw.  Processed through C1 LE.  Almost no changes in C1
from camera settings.  Then processed in Picture Window Pro.  First
masked the sky at the horizon.  Foreground was lightened a bit and
saturated for the velvia look needed for this drab day.  Sky was
saturated separately less than the foreground.

Single shot, no blending, just some masking.  Glad that you liked it.

Bruce


Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 12:50:04 PM, you wrote:

TC Lovely shot Bruce.  I see an excellent composition.  I like how the rocks on
TC the left lead the eye out into the water. The subtle color contrasts are
TC just beautiful.

TC I'm curious what mode this was shot in... Raw, JPG, TIF?  Is it a single
TC shot or a blend of several exposures?.  In any case it's beautful and a nice
TC piece if art.



TC Tom C.




From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO - 17 mile drive
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:30:40 -0800

Well, I have been very busy for the last month or so and have had
a hard time even trying to keep up with the list, let alone the
PESO's.

This past weekend my wife and I had to pick up our oldest daughter
from a band competition in Monterey, CA.  We took advantage of the
opportunity to visit Pinnacles National Monument (a first for us) and
a drive on 17 mile drive near Carmel.  I'll try to post some of the
pics of the trip over the next few days.

Here is the first - shot on *istD, DA 16-45, handheld.  As we got on
the 17 mile drive, it was late afternoon and the clouds were rolling
in.  This shot reflects the feelings of the time. Not dark, but
certainly not a sunny evening.

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/pinnacles_0100.htm

Comments welcome.


Bruce










Re: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/11/04, David Zaninovic, discombobulated, unleashed:

Bidding before the last moment is counterproductive. :)

Not from where I'm sat.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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M42 Pentax history

2004-11-09 Thread Margus Männik
Hi there,
do we have any M42 Asahi web resource similar to mr. Dmitrov's K-mount 
page? Or at least any site where ALL (ok, more or less...) produced M42 
bodies would be described?

BR, Margus
Tallinn, Estonia


Re: PESO - 17 mile drive

2004-11-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/11/04, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed:

Here is the first - shot on *istD, DA 16-45, handheld.  As we got on
the 17 mile drive, it was late afternoon and the clouds were rolling
in.  This shot reflects the feelings of the time. Not dark, but
certainly not a sunny evening.

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/pinnacles_0100.htm

BEAUTIFUL. I can smell the sea and hear the waves now. Superb. Thanks.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: how does the ZX-50 do with ttl flash?

2004-11-09 Thread John Whittingham
Thanks Peter, I've been using my AF280T since I got the MZ-3 but thought I 
might try the AF400FTZ, I located one at a bargain price, the AF500FTZ holds 
it's price very well and I couldn't imagine it being worth the use I give my 
flashes.

John



-- Original Message ---
From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 11:03:47 -0500
Subject: Re: how does the ZX-50 do with ttl flash?

 Actually no,  I use old AF280T flashes.  Since the MZ-3 and ZX5n 
 don't seem to be capable of higher than sync (125/100 respectively), 
 speed flash I didn't see any point in upgrading to the AF400FTZ. 
  The results with the AF280T are very good as long as I keep within 
 limitations imposed by the flashes output.
 
 John Whittingham wrote:
 
 It is in the LX, MZ-3 ZX5n in my experience.  There have been 
 problems reported with the *ist-d.
 
 
 
 Hi Peter
 
 Ever tried the MZ-3 ZX-5n with the AF400FTZ, would you care to comment on 
 performance?
 
 John
 
 
 -- Original Message ---
 From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 21:54:24 -0500
 Subject: Re: how does the ZX-50 do with ttl flash?
 
   
 
 It is in the LX, MZ-3 ZX5n in my experience.  There have been 
 problems reported with the *ist-d.
 
 David Zaninovic wrote:
 
 
 
 I have given up on using the istD with TTL flash.
 It is totally useless in this regard.

 
 
 
 Shouldn't the TTL flash be more precise than auto flash ?
 
 
  
 
   
 
 -- 
 I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
 During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
 and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during 
 peacetime.  --P.J. O'Rourke
 
 
 --- End of Original Message ---
 
 
   
 
 
 -- 
 I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
 During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
 and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during 
 peacetime.--P.J. O'Rourke
--- End of Original Message ---



Re: PAW: Big Brother

2004-11-09 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 15:42:16 +0100, Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks. The issue of cropping or not was one I wanted some feedback
 on, which the PAW is interesting for. I wasn't so sure if to crop it or not. 
 How about this?
 
 I made two alterations,
 
 first slight crop:
 
 http://fotof.wz.cz/paw/pawcrop.jpg
 
 second altering the hue of the sky to better resemble what I remember
 (but the first one colour's is more contrasty to the orange buildings)
 
 http://fotof.wz.cz/paw/pawcrop2.jpg
 
 What do you think?

I think I might like it cropped a little bit less.  The way it is
after the crop, the face looks much bigger, more ominous.  Before, he
looked benign and friendly.  I would say that about 1/2 way between
your crop and the original would look best.

As for the colouration, the second one certainly looks more natural,
but I kind of like the saturated colours - like you said, they work of
the colour of the buildings better - kind of a surreal look.




-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PAW: Black and white and colour

2004-11-09 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 17:34:26 +1100, Leon Altoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 It's time for another picture from me.  This one is digitally
 manipulated, and similar to one I've done before, but here it is.
 
 http://www.bluering.org.au/leon/feature.htm
 
 Comments welcome.
 
  Leon
 
 http://www.bluering.org.au
 http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
 

Just for a change, I looked at the other comments before doing mine.

First, I do like the composition.  The fact that the big rock's dead
centre doesn't bother me - I like the curve of the coastline (or at
least the way it's depicted, with only the bottom and top visible. 
The pattern of the waves is interesting - between the coast on the
left and the waves, there's enough tension in the photo for me.

I'm not sure the colour/bw mix is my bag.  Other than the big rock,
the rest of the photo (the bw part) is very dark, which is fine,
since it looks like it was a dark, miserable day.  Having the rock
brighter is a good idea - I think that if it was a bw print, I'd want
to dodge it big time, so that it contrasts the rest of the photo -
those nice horizontal patterns would stand out nicely.

Your sort of did that (in terms of the brightness of the rock, which
is about right, IMHO), but I just find the colour/bw mix a bit, I
don't know, contrived and gimmicky.  That's not a comment on your
photo or your choice of how to present it, but rather a comment on me
and my tastes, I'm afraid.

cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread Bob Blakely
No.
Bidding AFTER the last moment is counterproductive.
:)
I have always found that bidding at the very last moment is MOST productive.
1.It keeps me from bidding again when I find that I've been out bid.
2.It keeps others from bidding again when they find that I've out bid 
them.

Regards,
Bob...
From: David Zaninovic [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bidding before the last moment is counterproductive. :)



Re: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/11/04, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed:

1.It keeps me from bidding again when I find that I've been out bid.
2.It keeps others from bidding again when they find that I've out bid 
them.

Couldn't put it any better Bob.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: PESO - 17 mile drive

2004-11-09 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:30:40 -0800, Bruce Dayton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, I have been very busy for the last month or so and have had
 a hard time even trying to keep up with the list, let alone the
 PESO's.
 
 This past weekend my wife and I had to pick up our oldest daughter
 from a band competition in Monterey, CA.  We took advantage of the
 opportunity to visit Pinnacles National Monument (a first for us) and
 a drive on 17 mile drive near Carmel.  I'll try to post some of the
 pics of the trip over the next few days.
 
 Here is the first - shot on *istD, DA 16-45, handheld.  As we got on
 the 17 mile drive, it was late afternoon and the clouds were rolling
 in.  This shot reflects the feelings of the time. Not dark, but
 certainly not a sunny evening.
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/pinnacles_0100.htm
 
 Comments welcome.
 
 

Bruce,

You always capture mood so well, and this is yet another example of it.

Just a beautiful photo!

thanks,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: M42 Pentax history

2004-11-09 Thread Fred Widall
Margus,

Dario's incredible site should tell you everything you might wish
to know.

http://www.aohc.it/

Other good sites are
http://www.pentaximaging.com/world_of_pentax/history_of_innovations/index.jsp
http://www.concentric.net/%7Esherfy/special1.html
http://www.marriottworld.com/ccm%20articles/spotmatic.htm

That should get you going !!



RE: Idaho Skies Sunday Night

2004-11-09 Thread Tom C
Thanks Shel... some of them are pretty psychedelic...

Tom C.


From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Idaho Skies Sunday Night
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 19:11:22 -0800
Very nice ... I've never seen anything quite like that since taking acid in
the summer of 1967 LOL  seriously, super dooper!
Shel
 [Original Message]
 From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 11/8/2004 4:16:18 PM
 Subject: Idaho Skies Sunday Night

 I walked outside and noticed a weird sky Sunday evening, checked to see
if a
 geomagnetic storm was in progress, and started shooting.  Space weather
 sites categorized it as extreme.
[...]
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=265867




Re: PESO - 17 mile drive

2004-11-09 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bruce Dayton wrote:

 Well, I have been very busy for the last month or so and have had
 a hard time even trying to keep up with the list, let alone the
 PESO's.


 Here is the first - shot on *istD, DA 16-45, handheld.  As we got on
 the 17 mile drive, it was late afternoon and the clouds were rolling
 in.  This shot reflects the feelings of the time. Not dark, but
 certainly not a sunny evening.

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/pinnacles_0100.htm

 Comments welcome.

 Bruce

Lovely, Bruce - my favorite kind of sky  - and the best weather for the
beach for moi.

annsan

p.s. Find any stray golf balls on the beach?



Northern Lights

2004-11-09 Thread michal mesko
Hello List,

just saw the first aurora in my life. It was very pretty, but at least as much 
educative. Here are the lessons learned:

I have been looking for a geomagnetic storm since I came to Finland, checking 
the monitoring site (http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/kp_3d.html) almost daily. 
As the gray-steel skies started to break up at the sunset today, I rushed to 
the city to buy rolls of Provia 400F, one of the films generally recommended 
for aurora photography.

Being young and naive, I set out to photograph the lights right after twilight 
at 5pm. My idea was that aurora would dance over the sky for the whole night, 
only to disappear with the first rays of the dawn. :) After more than two hours 
of stumbling through the scary dark forest and catching cold by the lake, I 
packed up and went home. Of course an hour later, the lights did appear. 
Rushing to the lake again, I lent my tripod to a friend to play with and went 
looking for The Perfect Composition. By the time I found it, the sky turned 
dark again.

Puzzled, I approached a seasoned (or so it seemed) aurora photographer on the 
scene. He explained that aurora usually passes our latitude from 10pm to 11pm 
going down from north to south. It returns after midnight at 1am, going back 
north again. Apparently, it is one of those things everyone but me knows. ;-) 
It has something to do with the position of sun, he even carried a PDA to check 
the angle at which the solar winds hit the atmosphere. 

I then inquired about the exposure times. What he used is very inconsistent 
with the resources on the internet 
(http://www.ptialaska.net/~hutch/aurora.html,
http://w1.877.telia.com/~u87717747/english/bildarkiv_4.htm and more), where 
they talk about 400 speed, fast lens and about 30 second exposures. He was 
using f2.0 lens, ISO 50 and about four seconds! My friends digital camera had 
the right exposures at ISO 100, f2.8 and 8-15 seconds. Anything longer and the 
photo was blown out. And the aurora was supposedly on the faint side.

Sorry for the long post. :] I would like to hear comments of experienced aurora 
photographers, anyone?

Mike
(http://skwid.wz.cz)



Svetova kniznica SME - literarne klenoty 20. storocia - http://knihy.sme.sk



Re: PESO ('s) Ohio Cafe, etc... and notes on photo.net

2004-11-09 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 01:19:35 -0500, Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Geez.. it should have been so hard to get an image
 up
 I started with just one...
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2865228
 
 I think you guys have seen that one before, but it
 is a NON Pentax
 
 I had to use the Save for Web thing in Photo shop
 to get it uploaded --
 two or three other shots fell by the wayside until
 I got that straightened out -
 I thought there were other problems
 
 I presume you guys will know what this is and how
 I did it.
 http://users.rcn.com/annsan/notmyusualstyle.jpg
 
 and I needed a kitten for comfort.
 http://users.rcn.com/annsan/norasnewkitten2.jpg
 (with the digicam)
 
 Sadly, after I sent this picture out to some
 friends who have met the little guy,
 one of them wrote me that he had died at the vet
 under anasthesia where we
 was taken to be altered last week.  I took the
 pictures in September - sure wish
 I had sent one to my friend before the kitty left
 us - but she really hates email so
 probably would not see it unless one of her
 daughters was there to retrieve it.
 
 I really babble when I'm sick, guys sorry
 
 ann achoo achoo san
 

Hey, Ann,

1)  Sorry to hear you're sick.  Hope you get over your cold soon (but
- and not to scare you or anything - there's a cold going around
Toronto that just seems to hang on forever and ever)

2)  I like the diner shot.  Very moody.  I like the composition:  the
angle of the table, the cool lighting from the window.  It's just so
~ordinary~ and almost prosaic, but that's what I like about it.  A
slice o' life, something that most people would miss, but you didn't. 
Love it.

3)  The one of the lights is interesting, but not really my thing.  I
am curious, though, how you did it.  I haven't read the other comments
or your replies, so if you've already answered it, don't bother again.

4)  What a beautiful cat, and so beautifully captured!  I love the
chair leg in there - one can tell that the cat's in full stretch, even
without seeing it's body below the neck. So sad to hear of its
untimely demise, even sadder that it was due to such a routine
operation.  Poor Nora must be devastated;  I'd be.

All in all, some pretty cool shots there, Ann. 

get well soon,
frank 


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: M42 Pentax history

2004-11-09 Thread Peter J. Alling
Try this.  There are a couple more but I don't have them bookmarked on 
this system.

http://www.shmgo-zwolle.nl/spotmatic/index2.html
Margus Männik wrote:
Hi there,
do we have any M42 Asahi web resource similar to mr. Dmitrov's K-mount 
page? Or at least any site where ALL (ok, more or less...) produced 
M42 bodies would be described?

BR, Margus
Tallinn, Estonia


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: eBay question

2004-11-09 Thread Peter J. Alling
Bob Blakely wrote:
No.
Bidding AFTER the last moment is counterproductive.
You can say that again...
:)
I have always found that bidding at the very last moment is MOST 
productive.

1.It keeps me from bidding again when I find that I've been out bid.
2.It keeps others from bidding again when they find that I've out 
bid them.

Regards,
Bob...
From: David Zaninovic [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bidding before the last moment is counterproductive. :)



--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: PAW: Big Brother

2004-11-09 Thread Frantisek
Thanks for the comments. I think I like my first version the best,
finally. The open space draws you in, but later you notice the face.
And perhaps even the small person if in a real print not screen. At
least for me. It's hard to judge your own, especially regarding
(editorial) framing. PAWs are good for this. I would love to do some
more with more people action in this place, which there is (people
action, as it's a busy suburb with such corners like this hosting lot
of strange and nice people). Well, the skies are all gray with rain
and snow now :-( I was glad I got a tiny bit of setting sun for a
nearby thing I came to photograph originally. Same time, svetsky
(sorry, I don't know of same conotation English word for circus
people) were dismantling their things. Lot of nice pictures against
the background of the concrete panels houses, but none of them turned
out right. In the small DSLR viewfinder, I couldn't quite see if a man
dismantling sort of mobile Russian wheel (ferris wheel for you across
the pond(s)?) was looking at, although his face was quite detailed in
the raw file. IstD would have helped a bit, but I am stuck with
another system unfortunately. The best would have been an LX with
SE60 screen ;-)

Good light!
   fra



PDML Mini-FAQ

2004-11-09 Thread Graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html
Posted every Sunday (if I remember)
--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html



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