Re: GESO 2007 - San Francisco - GDG
Quite a good gallery, Godfrey. Good conversions. -Brendan --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Working my way through the photos I made in SF on Friday, I put together a small set of 12 BW renderings. http://www.gdgphoto.com/sfstreet/ Comments, critique and thoughts appreciated. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Rail Bird
Gotta get a big lens. -Brendan --- Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html K10D, 600mmFA f4.0, 1/160, f4.0, 400 ISO on Gitzo 1548 tripod with Kirk King Cobra Head. Comments appreciated. Kenneth Waller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Waterworks
On May 7, 2007, at 6:19 PM, Rick Womer wrote: I went shooting with my spiffy new K10D on Sunday. The old Philadelphia Waterworks on the banks of the Schuylkill River have been restored, and this is one view. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5942460 This shot used none of the camera's neat features; I just liked it. I like the camera too. Very nice. It probably did use one of the camera's neat features, although you would hardly notice it: the AntiShake. ;-) Mine spends most of its time in Av mode, working much like I have with the DS and the Nikon FE2/F3 before that. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - It's a boy!
Hello! Congratulations to the family. Nice photo too! :-) Godfrey On May 7, 2007, at 2:16 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote: Say hello to Finn Christopher MacRae. Born on Cinco de Mayo @ 15:57PST. http://www.primelensphoto.com/finn.jpg 7lbs 6.4 oz, 21 inches long. My wife really had no pain meds. This wasn't her choice, there just wasn't time. Her doctor almost didn't make it to the delivery room...made for an interesting labor...it's long story. In any event, both mom and baby are doing well. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - It's a boy!
Congratulations!!! He's looking great and a very beautiful name Toine On 5/7/07, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Say hello to Finn Christopher MacRae. Born on Cinco de Mayo @ 15:57PST. http://www.primelensphoto.com/finn.jpg 7lbs 6.4 oz, 21 inches long. My wife really had no pain meds. This wasn't her choice, there just wasn't time. Her doctor almost didn't make it to the delivery room...made for an interesting labor...it's long story. In any event, both mom and baby are doing well. -Brendan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- -- Toine http://leende.net/peso -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Log Revisited
In a message dated 5/7/2007 9:50:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, theoretically it is indeed an improvement. But I have both opened and when I swap between them all I have to say is Bad Marnie, Bad, bad Marnie ;-). Boris === ROLF. Marnie aka the Bad - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - another olive sparrow
On May 8, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Christian wrote: Here's another olive sparrow; bathing. http://tinyurl.com/24qpmd That's fantastic. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO: green and white
Yesterday I was searching for spectacular colorful flowers like orchids and went home with these little white blossoms: http://leende.net/peso/20070506 istD, M100/4 macro -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Listen
Yes, I see that now. That's *my* main problem with candids. Further, I usually don't notice things such as this one. So we're on the same page here, in a certain sense. On 5/8/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: PESO: Listen Is she gonna sneeze? ;-) Sir William, you've lost her right hand and procured a piece of metal or wood behind her... Not a worthy exchange if you ask me... The expression is caught all right though. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/listen.html Boris, have another look if you care to. You will see why I cropped the image the way I did, if you scroll down a bit. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Another dog picture
Having high cholesterol levels in my blood, I actually tend to eat less meat than I used. I ain't no vegetarian yet, but I don't insist on eating meat either. On 5/8/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must be a vegetarian. That roll of toilet paper is actually part of a leg bone from a steer (bovine). He's turning into a mighty fine dog though, I must say. Thanks for looking and commenting. William Robb For those of you who are not on my Jester spam list. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/fellas/jester/mayday_dogs.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New Zealand (+ Hong Kong stopover)
On May 7, 2007, at 11:20 PM, Peter Lacus wrote: 16.5. Christchurch Arriving at 8am. After some 26 hours spent in planes we'll probably rest. We also need to buy some food, mobile phone pay-as-you-go package and most importantly familiarize ourself with the left side of the road driving (here in London I rode just my bike so far). David, are you around? ;-) It's a work day but I work in the central city so we may be able to meet up for a coffee or something. 17.5. Christchurch - Lake Tekapo (Mt Cook) 18.5. Lake Tekapo - Queenstown (Te Anau) alternatively: 17.5. Christchurch - Dunedin 18.5. Dunedin - Te Anau I'd like to see the Catlins Forest and the wildlife of the Otago peninsula but the other option is also tempting. We probably need to discuss this with David. Dunedin to Te Anau would be quite a long day if you're going via the Catlins (I don't even know if they've sealed the road yet). Whichever option you choose you'll love it :) If you do stay in Tekapo I hope you get a clear night. They have some of the clearest air in the southern hemisphere and the night sky is incredible. 19.5. Milford Sound / Doubtful Sound - Queenstown unfortunately just one of them depending on the circumstances. But Bob's postcard picture from Doubtful Sound surely looks like from a fairy tale so I am slightly biased towards the latter. If you do Doubtful Sound you can also take a tour through Manapouri power station. This way also involves quite a lot less travel. Here's Milford on a good day, halfway down from the Homer Tunnel: http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/view.php?p=63 20.5. Queenstown - Franz Jozef 21.5. Franz Jozef - Punakaiki Rocks 22.5. Punakaiki Rocks - Kaikoura Check out Hanmer on the way. 23.5. Kaikoura - Christchurch we prefer not to hurry, so eventually we may allow more time for some of these places, perhaps skip Kaikoura altogether and drive from Punakaiki to Christchurch via Arthur's Pass (provided it's any quicker). Going via Arthurs Pass would probably cut out a couple of hours. Arthurs Pass is pretty nice but so is the Kaikoura coast. I'd suggest skipping the North Island ;) - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Green Man and Pig's Head
Thanks - that one's my favourite. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Womer Sent: 08 May 2007 02:51 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Green Man and Pig's Head Very nice, especially the maypole one (top right). Rick --- Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The sun comes out for about 5 minutes, and all the heathens rush out to conduct their foul pagan rituals: http://www.web-options.com/Mayday/ Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Green Man and Pig's Head
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/05/07 Mon PM 10:13:27 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: Green Man and Pig's Head The sun comes out for about 5 minutes, and all the heathens rush out to conduct their foul pagan rituals: http://www.web-options.com/Mayday/ I laughed out loud when I saw the green tongue. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - another olive sparrow
Wonderful photo - I really like it. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Sent: 08 May 2007 03:18 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - another olive sparrow Ok, last one... for a while :-) I'm catching a plane back home tomorrow. Here's another olive sparrow; bathing. http://tinyurl.com/24qpmd Same setup but no flash. We were getting set to leave the blind and had dismantled most of our gear when they landed and started bathing and using my perch. Comments? -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Green Man and Pig's Head
Never heard of the green man. What is that all about? the Green Man is a traditional figure representing the force of Nature and spring, I think. Probably pre-Christian but it is carved into a lot of churches here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Man There was one carved in the parish church we went to when I was at school, although I can't find a picture of it, but this is the church (and the house I lived in - Elizabethan house on the right with 2 large gables at the ends and 4 smaller gables between): http://www.hobster.co.uk/Images/Balloon/church.jpg It finds its way into a lot of pub names. Here it was part of the scaffolding in the town where I was at school - this is where the locals used to hang people, so it was said: http://www.ashbourne-town.com/pubs/green/index.html -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 May 2007 03:53 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Green Man and Pig's Head In a message dated 5/7/2007 3:13:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The sun comes out for about 5 minutes, and all the heathens rush out to conduct their foul pagan rituals: http://www.web-options.com/Mayday/ Bob === Very nice gallery. Colorful, interesting bits and pieces, especially the green man and the pig's head. You guys have some interesting native rituals. :-) Never heard of the green man. What is that all about? Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - another olive sparrow
Excellent! Toine On 5/8/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, last one... for a while :-) I'm catching a plane back home tomorrow. Here's another olive sparrow; bathing. http://tinyurl.com/24qpmd Same setup but no flash. We were getting set to leave the blind and had dismantled most of our gear when they landed and started bathing and using my perch. Comments? -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- -- Toine http://leende.net/peso -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - never mind the noise!
Another baby picture, but I can only claim the photo credit for this one! http://tinyurl.com/ywo5p5 Technical stuff on the page John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Green Man and Pig's Head
Ditto on the maypole. The foreground figures give it dimension and interest. Like the pig's head as well. Yumm! Paul On May 7, 2007, at 9:51 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Very nice, especially the maypole one (top right). Rick --- Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The sun comes out for about 5 minutes, and all the heathens rush out to conduct their foul pagan rituals: http://www.web-options.com/Mayday/ Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - olive sparrow
Much better. Just superb. Paul On May 7, 2007, at 11:55 PM, Christian wrote: Maris V. Lidaka Sr. wrote: Well done! Now it is a sparrow rather than being crossed with a cardinal. Image is sharp including the feathers. And I like the closer crop - on 2nd viewing of the original, the small diaganol branch in the lower right corner is distracting and doesn't really belong in the photo. Thanks, Maris! When I re-did the RAW conversion, I too decided that little branch needed to be eliminated. I like the closer crop too. http://tinyurl.com/2y4ylv -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Waterworks
They don't build 'em like that anymore! Modern design would call for something purely functional with aesthetics being of little or no concern (or do I just sound like a grumpy old man) Anyway excellent shot. With the variation of lighting on those columns, this might also look great as a BW conversion. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I went shooting with my spiffy new K10D on Sunday. The old Philadelphia Waterworks on the banks of the Schuylkill River have been restored, and this is one view. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5942460 This shot used none of the camera's neat features; I just liked it. I like the camera too. Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW -- Find out how you can get spam free email. http://www.bluebottle.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Log Revisited
Actually, there should have been a smily at the end. Sorry Dave On 5/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/6/2007 4:33:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but. Is this still a photograph. Removing a tree to enhance a subject matter. Is it making the point to your obvious lovely work forum. Not sure removing large objects helps for what your trying to do. As you see. i have a bit of a kerfuffle with this. Dave === I cheated. I am deeply ashamed of myself. :-( Well, at least I'll pretend to be if it makes people feel better. Dave, you have no idea how much PS I may or may not do to the photos I show where I don't admit it. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT Class update 1
Hi gang. Well last night was the first of 5 lighting/portrait classes in Barrie. Long day as i was in the field until 5:30 then a made dash to the school. Took a while to find everything, but we did. As i walked in to the class room, one gent in the class was raving about his new digital camera, must be a Nikon shooter, says i.LOL Nope, he has the K10D and kit lens, so i whipped out mine, camera that is, and we bonded. I feel so good now.:-) Teacher is not the regular instructor for the class. Great i think, a Physics prof teaching me photography. Wrong. She also teaches the night classes for Wedding and Children's portraits. Bonus, says I. Maybe this is worth the drive to Barrie, me thinks. Course outline was presented and a two hour talk about portraits, what to look for, the shapes thingy.(how to set up the people to form, in principle, diamond, triangle and eclipse.Not really sure how to explain this yet, but it made sense in the examples) She asked us what we wanted from the course, and i mentioned more experience with not only on baord flash, but how to light and expose for studio stuff. I mentioned about the possible pet work in stores. She used to do that before just going to people portraits, so she will add that to the class, and will bring in a bunch of tips for me. Sounds like a real nigh class. Learn what you want, not what the school says you need to:-) Looking foreard to next week, She is bringing her lighting in and we get to play. Sorry for the OT and ramble.Thansk for listening and support Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT Class update 1
David J Brooks wrote: Hi gang. Well last night was the first of 5 lighting/portrait classes in Barrie. Long day as i was in the field until 5:30 then a made dash to the school. Took a while to find everything, but we did. As i walked in to the class room, one gent in the class was raving about his new digital camera, must be a Nikon shooter, says i.LOL Nope, he has the K10D and kit lens, so i whipped out mine, camera that is, and we bonded. I feel so good now.:-) Teacher is not the regular instructor for the class. Great i think, a Physics prof teaching me photography. Wrong. She also teaches the night classes for Wedding and Children's portraits. Bonus, says I. Maybe this is worth the drive to Barrie, me thinks. Course outline was presented and a two hour talk about portraits, what to look for, the shapes thingy.(how to set up the people to form, in principle, diamond, triangle and eclipse.Not really sure how to explain this yet, but it made sense in the examples) She asked us what we wanted from the course, and i mentioned more experience with not only on baord flash, but how to light and expose for studio stuff. I mentioned about the possible pet work in stores. She used to do that before just going to people portraits, so she will add that to the class, and will bring in a bunch of tips for me. Sounds like a real nigh class. Learn what you want, not what the school says you need to:-) Looking foreard to next week, She is bringing her lighting in and we get to play. Sorry for the OT and ramble.Thansk for listening and support Dave Sounds fun, Dave. But I wouldn't call it OT. :) I'm assuming you're going to post pics taken in class eventually? -- Scott Loveless www.twosixteen.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: rootbeer?
Yes, and pseudphidrine is, supposedly, used in the manufacture of crack. Hence in North Carolina, at least, it is a semi-controlled substance. You do not need a prescription, but it is kept behind the Rx counter and you are only allowed to buy 3 packs a year (I see nothing keeping you from buying 3 packs at every store in town, however). Everything not prohibited is mandatory! The only reason drugs were made illegal in the US is because good old J Edgar Hoover blackmailed them into making them illegal so he would not have to disband the FBI when prohibition was ended. Orwell had no imagination. Wait a minute, Bob, you live in England... Bob W wrote: Just like the gauntlet I have to run these days to buy Sudafed for my allergies! The word Sudafed is derived from 'pseudo ephedrine' - it's a man-made version of ephedrine. Ephedra was the stimulant of choice (alongside poppies and hemp) for the ancient Indo-Europeans, and is thought to have been one of the principle ingredients (in liquid form) of soma or haoma, the sacred drink of the Indo-Iranians. It was widely used in rituals such as burials among the people of Central Asia, and for hallucinogenic purposes. So next time you have a bunged-up nose and reach for the Sudafed, think of yourself as sharing in the ancient rituals of your nomadic Bronze Age ancestors of the steppes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Green Man and Pig's Head
Hey Bob, Looks like a fun time. This one is without a doubt my favorite in the set ... http://www.web-options.com/Mayday/content/_5075226_large.html I could see it rendered in BW too. Godfrey On May 8, 2007, at 12:19 AM, Bob W wrote: The sun comes out for about 5 minutes, and all the heathens rush out to conduct their foul pagan rituals: http://www.web-options.com/Mayday/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Waterworks
Thanks, Brian. I was thinking about that, but I enjoy the warmth of the light. There are a few others from the same shoot that I might try converting, though. Rick --- Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They don't build 'em like that anymore! Modern design would call for something purely functional with aesthetics being of little or no concern (or do I just sound like a grumpy old man) Anyway excellent shot. With the variation of lighting on those columns, this might also look great as a BW conversion. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I went shooting with my spiffy new K10D on Sunday. The old Philadelphia Waterworks on the banks of the Schuylkill River have been restored, and this is one view. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5942460 This shot used none of the camera's neat features; I just liked it. I like the camera too. Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW -- Find out how you can get spam free email. http://www.bluebottle.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Waterworks
Thanks, Godfrey. The exposure was 1/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/16, my last beer was with lunch 5 hours earlier, and I hadn't had any caffeine, so even the anti-shake didn't have much to do! On other shots, though, it has worked =very= nicely. The camera generally handles wonderfully. Rick --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 7, 2007, at 6:19 PM, Rick Womer wrote: I went shooting with my spiffy new K10D on Sunday. The old Philadelphia Waterworks on the banks of the Schuylkill River have been restored, and this is one view. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5942460 This shot used none of the camera's neat features; I just liked it. I like the camera too. Very nice. It probably did use one of the camera's neat features, although you would hardly notice it: the AntiShake. ;-) Mine spends most of its time in Av mode, working much like I have with the DS and the Nikon FE2/F3 before that. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Waterworks
Thanks for the compliment! People around here might quibble about =anything= being a step up from an LX, though... Rick --- Bob Rapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't need fancy features to take a great photo! I too, have been learning the new features. Quite a step up from a LX! Bob - Original Message - From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Waterworks I went shooting with my spiffy new K10D on Sunday. The old Philadelphia Waterworks on the banks of the Schuylkill River have been restored, and this is one view. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5942460 This shot used none of the camera's neat features; I just liked it. I like the camera too. Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Log Revisited
In a message dated 5/8/2007 5:16:55 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, there should have been a smily at the end. Sorry Dave === Nevermind. Mine had a smiley. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Green Man and Pig's Head
In a message dated 5/8/2007 12:51:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the Green Man is a traditional figure representing the force of Nature and spring, I think. Probably pre-Christian but it is carved into a lot of churches here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Man There was one carved in the parish church we went to when I was at school, although I can't find a picture of it, but this is the church (and the house I lived in - Elizabethan house on the right with 2 large gables at the ends and 4 smaller gables between): http://www.hobster.co.uk/Images/Balloon/church.jpg It finds its way into a lot of pub names. Here it was part of the scaffolding in the town where I was at school - this is where the locals used to hang people, so it was said: http://www.ashbourne-town.com/pubs/green/index.html -- Bob = Very interesting. Thanks. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - never mind the noise!
John Coyle wrote: Another baby picture, but I can only claim the photo credit for this one! http://tinyurl.com/ywo5p5 Technical stuff on the page John Coyle Brisbane, Australia That's a very sweet photo... aww. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Waterworks
Nicely done. It's tough to find a good angle for a shot like this. You did it well. Paul -- Original message -- From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Godfrey. The exposure was 1/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/16, my last beer was with lunch 5 hours earlier, and I hadn't had any caffeine, so even the anti-shake didn't have much to do! On other shots, though, it has worked =very= nicely. The camera generally handles wonderfully. Rick --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 7, 2007, at 6:19 PM, Rick Womer wrote: I went shooting with my spiffy new K10D on Sunday. The old Philadelphia Waterworks on the banks of the Schuylkill River have been restored, and this is one view. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5942460 This shot used none of the camera's neat features; I just liked it. I like the camera too. Very nice. It probably did use one of the camera's neat features, although you would hardly notice it: the AntiShake. ;-) Mine spends most of its time in Av mode, working much like I have with the DS and the Nikon FE2/F3 before that. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - another olive sparrow
Bob W wrote: Wonderful photo - I really like it. -- Bob Thanks, Bob. I'm really happy with it too. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net http://tinyurl.com/24qpmd -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - cardinal
Brendan MacRae wrote: Really nice shot, Christian. You nailed it. Very interesting pose for him, too. Thanks, Brendan. I really like the pose too. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net http://tinyurl.com/362cen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - olive sparrow
Paul Stenquist wrote: Much better. Just superb. Paul Thanks a bunch. Paul. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - another olive sparrow
Toine wrote: Excellent! Toine Thanks! -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net http://tinyurl.com/24qpmd -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - another olive sparrow
David Mann wrote: On May 8, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Christian wrote: Here's another olive sparrow; bathing. http://tinyurl.com/24qpmd That's fantastic. Thanks, Dave. The guy in the blind with me (whom I shot with all 3 days) had a 1DMkIIn and was machine gunning the little guy at 8fps. I was happy with the way this one turned out: sharp head, beak and eye; motion blur on the body and water drops frozen in mid-air. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT Class update 1
Yes i will. Both good ones and what i think are bad ones. I'd like to get feedback on those. Dave On 5/8/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Hi gang. Well last night was the first of 5 lighting/portrait classes in Barrie. Long day as i was in the field until 5:30 then a made dash to the school. Took a while to find everything, but we did. As i walked in to the class room, one gent in the class was raving about his new digital camera, must be a Nikon shooter, says i.LOL Nope, he has the K10D and kit lens, so i whipped out mine, camera that is, and we bonded. I feel so good now.:-) Teacher is not the regular instructor for the class. Great i think, a Physics prof teaching me photography. Wrong. She also teaches the night classes for Wedding and Children's portraits. Bonus, says I. Maybe this is worth the drive to Barrie, me thinks. Course outline was presented and a two hour talk about portraits, what to look for, the shapes thingy.(how to set up the people to form, in principle, diamond, triangle and eclipse.Not really sure how to explain this yet, but it made sense in the examples) She asked us what we wanted from the course, and i mentioned more experience with not only on baord flash, but how to light and expose for studio stuff. I mentioned about the possible pet work in stores. She used to do that before just going to people portraits, so she will add that to the class, and will bring in a bunch of tips for me. Sounds like a real nigh class. Learn what you want, not what the school says you need to:-) Looking foreard to next week, She is bringing her lighting in and we get to play. Sorry for the OT and ramble.Thansk for listening and support Dave Sounds fun, Dave. But I wouldn't call it OT. :) I'm assuming you're going to post pics taken in class eventually? -- Scott Loveless www.twosixteen.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Repari ofan M-2.8/28mm lens
Hello List A friend of mine needs to repair an old M 2.8/28mm lens. Some years ago someone here posted photographs about repairing/taking apart the old Pentax lenses - like K, M or A-lenses. Would these instructions still be available somewhere on the www, please? Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/793 - Release Date: 05/07/2007 14:55 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT: Seikanon lens
Anyone ver tryied one? This one doesn't look too bad at all: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157600191710910/ Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/793 - Release Date: 05/07/2007 14:55 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
K10D and Sigma, again, sorry
Hi Troops The fellow in class that had the K10D last night, has the newer Sigma 500 DG super, and he has trouble getting the wireless mode/flash to work properly.Major under exposures. So am i. Is this now a dead issue with the DG super, and K10D in that wireless is kaput. If so, i quess the best way would be to sell and buy the 360 or 540/500 Any more thoughts on this matter. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D and Sigma, again, sorry
My DG Super is at Sigma now getting upgraded. Stay tuned. Rick --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Troops The fellow in class that had the K10D last night, has the newer Sigma 500 DG super, and he has trouble getting the wireless mode/flash to work properly.Major under exposures. So am i. Is this now a dead issue with the DG super, and K10D in that wireless is kaput. If so, i quess the best way would be to sell and buy the 360 or 540/500 Any more thoughts on this matter. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Waterworks
Thanks, Paul. Yes, it's a difficult place to shoot. There seem to be either parked cars in the foreground or various architectural distractions in the background from most vantage points. Rick --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicely done. It's tough to find a good angle for a shot like this. You did it well. Paul -- Original message -- From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Godfrey. The exposure was 1/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/16, my last beer was with lunch 5 hours earlier, and I hadn't had any caffeine, so even the anti-shake didn't have much to do! On other shots, though, it has worked =very= nicely. The camera generally handles wonderfully. Rick --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 7, 2007, at 6:19 PM, Rick Womer wrote: I went shooting with my spiffy new K10D on Sunday. The old Philadelphia Waterworks on the banks of the Schuylkill River have been restored, and this is one view. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5942460 This shot used none of the camera's neat features; I just liked it. I like the camera too. Very nice. It probably did use one of the camera's neat features, although you would hardly notice it: the AntiShake. ;-) Mine spends most of its time in Av mode, working much like I have with the DS and the Nikon FE2/F3 before that. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D and Sigma, again, sorry
I gave up on the Sigma. Too many problems. And it quit working completely when I tried it on the K10D. I guess I should send it in, although it's probably off warranty. I bought the Pentax 540. Works great. And I've now added the external battery pack. It's a good unit. Paul -- Original message -- From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Troops The fellow in class that had the K10D last night, has the newer Sigma 500 DG super, and he has trouble getting the wireless mode/flash to work properly.Major under exposures. So am i. Is this now a dead issue with the DG super, and K10D in that wireless is kaput. If so, i quess the best way would be to sell and buy the 360 or 540/500 Any more thoughts on this matter. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D and Sigma, again, sorry
Paul, is this on, and off camera?Wireless modes to. Is the 360 the only model that does not offer swivel positions. The 500 and 540 do, correct. Dave On 5/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gave up on the Sigma. Too many problems. And it quit working completely when I tried it on the K10D. I guess I should send it in, although it's probably off warranty. I bought the Pentax 540. Works great. And I've now added the external battery pack. It's a good unit. Paul -- Original message -- From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Troops The fellow in class that had the K10D last night, has the newer Sigma 500 DG super, and he has trouble getting the wireless mode/flash to work properly.Major under exposures. So am i. Is this now a dead issue with the DG super, and K10D in that wireless is kaput. If so, i quess the best way would be to sell and buy the 360 or 540/500 Any more thoughts on this matter. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D and Sigma, again, sorry
On 5/8/07, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My DG Super is at Sigma now getting upgraded. Stay tuned. Waiting with worms on my tongue.:-) Dave Rick --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Troops The fellow in class that had the K10D last night, has the newer Sigma 500 DG super, and he has trouble getting the wireless mode/flash to work properly.Major under exposures. So am i. Is this now a dead issue with the DG super, and K10D in that wireless is kaput. If so, i quess the best way would be to sell and buy the 360 or 540/500 Any more thoughts on this matter. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re:
What? Is Godfrey in a 3rd grade photography? :-) Sorry to appear rude. What is good about this picture? I don't find anything appealing about it. I don't see that it took any more effort than haphazardly raising the camera to one's eye and pressing the shutter release, maybe not even looking through the viewfinder. Not only is the main subject not in clear focus, the secondary subject is not either, and both are cut off. I'm not a believer that some sort of unspoken social commentary, makes a photograph a good photograph. If this is the kind of image that constitutes an incredible photograph, then by God, every person that ever picked up a camera and pressed the shutter release a half dozen times is a good photographer, and we should all stop trying. Tom C. On 08/05/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I missed this as well. Beautifully captured. Very moving. Paul On May 7, 2007, at 5:50 PM, frank theriault wrote: On 5/5/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/22.htm I missed this first time 'round. In incredible photograph. Just incredible... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Found My Ex
She's a restauranteur: http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=6Q6hFkxnjN And a lovely restaurant it is, too... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Night Life III (I wonder where my shoes got to...)
In a message dated 5/7/2007 3:29:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hula Hanks. You've got to love a club that can convince random members of the clientèle to become part of the entertainment. How? It could have been the drinks, two martinis and I felt that I'd been kicked by a horse. This is a work safe photo in most places but some may find it exploitive. http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO_--_nightlife%5B3%5D.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax 43mm f1.9 limited. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. Works better than the first one (or the second one, woman on patio). Unsure how I feel about it, Peter. It looks like a good promo for the club, and you caught a good moment. But.. well, I guess, personally, I have never been that hot on shots from taken from the audience. If it is a son's or daughter's school play or something, then I find it more engaging/intriguing. Whatever. Sorry to not be more clear/decisive. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Found My Ex
frank theriault wrote: She's a restauranteur: http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=6Q6hFkxnjN And a lovely restaurant it is, too... HAR! My ex would own/operate Stupid, Disrespectful, Insane Bitch's if there was such a restaurant... -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D and Sigma, again, sorry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gave up on the Sigma. Too many problems. And it quit working completely when I tried it on the K10D. I guess I should send it in, although it's probably off warranty. Sigma updated my EF500 free, even though it was long out of warranty. I bought the Pentax 540. Works great. And I've now added the external battery pack. It's a good unit. I'm gonna get one of those next :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Waterworks
Rick Womer wrote: I went shooting with my spiffy new K10D on Sunday. The old Philadelphia Waterworks on the banks of the Schuylkill River have been restored, and this is one view. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5942460 This shot used none of the camera's neat features; I just liked it. I like the camera too. Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html Thanks for posting this, Rick. Architecture like this fascinates me, and you've done a good job photographing it. -- Scott Loveless www.twosixteen.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Repair of an M-2.8/28mm lens
Charles Robinson wrote: On May 8, 2007, at 10:10, Jens Bladt wrote: Hello List A friend of mine needs to repair an old M 2.8/28mm lens. Some years ago someone here posted photographs about repairing/ taking apart the old Pentax lenses - like K, M or A-lenses. Would these instructions still be available somewhere on the www, please? Here's one for a 50mm f1.4 K lens but it may have some bearing on what needs to be done with the 28mm M http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~Srawhiti/pentax50mmf1.4.html Or this one: http://www.hermes.net.au/bayling/repair.html Not the same lens, but the repair technique is universal. -- Scott Loveless www.twosixteen.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2
One of the most unusual bird shots I have ever seen. That's an UNUSUAL compliment ;-) Or is it? Anyway, thanks Marnie. Me puting a picture together from three shots? You got to be kidding ;-) I'm not able to edit one shot properly in PS. Seriuosly. To see a young Seagul next to a Eurasian Oistercatcher is pretty common. It is also rather common to see Northern Lapwing visiting their habitat. And all those birds are Mostly Harmless (but they spell better than you and I (-; ) And don't forget. I'm using long glass that makes them look closer than they really are. Tim Typo Mostly Harmless - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 4:58 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2 In a message dated 5/7/2007 12:07:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've already displayed the first one. I think I have material for four of five in a Birds in Heavy Weather serie. The idea of making a serie of them is partly inspired by Marnie's projects. http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=308716 I like the composition in this one. Not fancy, but effecient. Thumb up, or thumb down folks? When asking, I'm thinking of this photo and about the serie idea. Tim Typo Mostly Harmless = I think thumbs up. That is one of the most unusual bird shots I have ever seen. A few things I am not thrilled about, but it's nice how they all line up and also look like all different species (subspecies whatever). Is that one you have put together from three shots? If not, really, really good timing. I guess I'd like that back bird to have just a tad more definition, maybe up the contrast just a tad in that area. Like +1 - +3. Overall I find it very interesting to look at. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/793 - Release Date: 07.05.2007 14:55 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Repair of an M-2.8/28mm lens
On May 8, 2007, at 10:10, Jens Bladt wrote: Hello List A friend of mine needs to repair an old M 2.8/28mm lens. Some years ago someone here posted photographs about repairing/ taking apart the old Pentax lenses - like K, M or A-lenses. Would these instructions still be available somewhere on the www, please? Here's one for a 50mm f1.4 K lens but it may have some bearing on what needs to be done with the 28mm M http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~Srawhiti/pentax50mmf1.4.html -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org I am riding in the MS-TRAM this summer. Please consider sponsoring me! http://charles.robinsontwins.org/mstram.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Apples
A very fine show Jens. What's the music, it reminds me of Phillip Cathrine? Tim Typo Mostly Harmless - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: DESO: Apples Pklease take a look at my flowers: http://www.jensbladt.dk/Flash-Shows/apples.swf Requires Shockwave Flash (or other SWF software) Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk + No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.4/790 - Release Date: 05/05/2007 10:34 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/791 - Release Date: 06.05.2007 09:07 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D and Sigma, again, sorry
My Sigma doesn't work at all any more. I think something popped when I tried to use it on the K10D. It had already been upgraded for the K 100D, so I figured it would be okay. I don't know how the 540 Pentax differs from the 360, other than it has more range. The 500 won't work on the K10D. It's TTL. Paul -- Original message -- From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul, is this on, and off camera?Wireless modes to. Is the 360 the only model that does not offer swivel positions. The 500 and 540 do, correct. Dave On 5/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gave up on the Sigma. Too many problems. And it quit working completely when I tried it on the K10D. I guess I should send it in, although it's probably off warranty. I bought the Pentax 540. Works great. And I've now added the external battery pack. It's a good unit. Paul -- Original message -- From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Troops The fellow in class that had the K10D last night, has the newer Sigma 500 DG super, and he has trouble getting the wireless mode/flash to work properly.Major under exposures. So am i. Is this now a dead issue with the DG super, and K10D in that wireless is kaput. If so, i quess the best way would be to sell and buy the 360 or 540/500 Any more thoughts on this matter. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2
I like the idea in this photo a lot. What I would like to see is a bit more separation between the foreground bird and its surroundings. You might be able to do that with a little bit of careful image processing work. Godfrey On May 7, 2007, at 11:38 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: I've already displayed the first one. I think I have material for four of five in a Birds in Heavy Weather serie. The idea of making a serie of them is partly inspired by Marnie's projects. http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=308716 I like the composition in this one. Not fancy, but effecient. Thumb up, or thumb down folks? When asking, I'm thinking of this photo and about the serie idea. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Found My Ex
Though I don't get along with my ex either, IMHO this is going a bit too far. Maris Christian wrote: frank theriault wrote: She's a restauranteur: http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=6Q6hFkxnjN And a lovely restaurant it is, too... HAR! My ex would own/operate Stupid, Disrespectful, Insane Bitch's if there was such a restaurant... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Prancing Horses
http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=49fYIPjFnN I actually focused on the prancing horse on the mirror, but it still came out blurry. I guess it's the lens, being soft off-centre or something. Can't be my (or the camera's) focusing, right? ;-) Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D and Sigma, again, sorry
I'm going to send the Sigma in for an upgrade. However, I think something is broken. It won't flash at all. Paul -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gave up on the Sigma. Too many problems. And it quit working completely when I tried it on the K10D. I guess I should send it in, although it's probably off warranty. Sigma updated my EF500 free, even though it was long out of warranty. I bought the Pentax 540. Works great. And I've now added the external battery pack. It's a good unit. I'm gonna get one of those next :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re:
At least two viewers. Frank and I both said we liked it. I find it quite fascinating. The juxtaposition of the person and the dog adds interest. The jacket that separates the two is sharply in focus, as the head and the dog become slightly softer background and foreground elements. Social commentary is irrelevant. The pic is good because it's compelling and unique. BTW, I frequently cut off the tops of heads on purpose. If this shot wasn't packed tightly into the frame, it wouldn't be nearly as good. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] The was, in some unique way, especially meaningful to one viewer. That doesn't, necessarily, validate it to anyone else. I think that's what every photographer and viewer has to realize. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What? Is Godfrey in a 3rd grade photography? :-) Sorry to appear rude. What is good about this picture? I don't find anything appealing about it. I don't see that it took any more effort than haphazardly raising the camera to one's eye and pressing the shutter release, maybe not even looking through the viewfinder. Not only is the main subject not in clear focus, the secondary subject is not either, and both are cut off. I'm not a believer that some sort of unspoken social commentary, makes a photograph a good photograph. If this is the kind of image that constitutes an incredible photograph, then by God, every person that ever picked up a camera and pressed the shutter release a half dozen times is a good photographer, and we should all stop trying. Tom C. On 08/05/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I missed this as well. Beautifully captured. Very moving. Paul On May 7, 2007, at 5:50 PM, frank theriault wrote: On 5/5/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/22.htm I missed this first time 'round. In incredible photograph. Just incredible... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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The was, in some unique way, especially meaningful to one viewer. That doesn't, necessarily, validate it to anyone else. I think that's what every photographer and viewer has to realize. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What? Is Godfrey in a 3rd grade photography? :-) Sorry to appear rude. What is good about this picture? I don't find anything appealing about it. I don't see that it took any more effort than haphazardly raising the camera to one's eye and pressing the shutter release, maybe not even looking through the viewfinder. Not only is the main subject not in clear focus, the secondary subject is not either, and both are cut off. I'm not a believer that some sort of unspoken social commentary, makes a photograph a good photograph. If this is the kind of image that constitutes an incredible photograph, then by God, every person that ever picked up a camera and pressed the shutter release a half dozen times is a good photographer, and we should all stop trying. Tom C. On 08/05/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I missed this as well. Beautifully captured. Very moving. Paul On May 7, 2007, at 5:50 PM, frank theriault wrote: On 5/5/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/22.htm I missed this first time 'round. In incredible photograph. Just incredible... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Night Life III (I wonder where my shoes got to...)
If it were my daughter I'd be a bit disappointed in her... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/7/2007 3:29:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hula Hanks. You've got to love a club that can convince random members of the clientèle to become part of the entertainment. How? It could have been the drinks, two martinis and I felt that I'd been kicked by a horse. This is a work safe photo in most places but some may find it exploitive. http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO_--_nightlife%5B3%5D.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax 43mm f1.9 limited. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. Works better than the first one (or the second one, woman on patio). Unsure how I feel about it, Peter. It looks like a good promo for the club, and you caught a good moment. But.. well, I guess, personally, I have never been that hot on shots from taken from the audience. If it is a son's or daughter's school play or something, then I find it more engaging/intriguing. Whatever. Sorry to not be more clear/decisive. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Waterworks
My pleasure. This was all a construction site at the time of the Philly PDML. We may have to hold another one someday... --- Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for posting this, Rick. Architecture like this fascinates me, and you've done a good job photographing it. -- Scott Loveless www.twosixteen.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Found My Ex
On 5/8/07, Maris V. Lidaka Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though I don't get along with my ex either, IMHO this is going a bit too far. I hope you didn't find this insulting, Maris. I actually don't get along so badly with my ex. I'm just having fun with my friends (on this list). cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - It's a boy!
Way to go :-) Tim Typo Mostly Harmless - Original Message - From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:16 PM Subject: PESO - It's a boy! Say hello to Finn Christopher MacRae. Born on Cinco de Mayo @ 15:57PST. http://www.primelensphoto.com/finn.jpg 7lbs 6.4 oz, 21 inches long. My wife really had no pain meds. This wasn't her choice, there just wasn't time. Her doctor almost didn't make it to the delivery room...made for an interesting labor...it's long story. In any event, both mom and baby are doing well. -Brendan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/793 - Release Date: 07.05.2007 14:55 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re:
I stipulate that we both saw the same image. Far as I'm concerned, you're under no obligation to attempt to justify your reaction. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least two viewers. Frank and I both said we liked it. I find it quite fascinating. The juxtaposition of the person and the dog adds interest. The jacket that separates the two is sharply in focus, as the head and the dog become slightly softer background and foreground elements. Social commentary is irrelevant. The pic is good because it's compelling and unique. BTW, I frequently cut off the tops of heads on purpose. If this shot wasn't packed tightly into the frame, it wouldn't be nearly as good. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] The was, in some unique way, especially meaningful to one viewer. That doesn't, necessarily, validate it to anyone else. I think that's what every photographer and viewer has to realize. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What? Is Godfrey in a 3rd grade photography? :-) Sorry to appear rude. What is good about this picture? I don't find anything appealing about it. I don't see that it took any more effort than haphazardly raising the camera to one's eye and pressing the shutter release, maybe not even looking through the viewfinder. Not only is the main subject not in clear focus, the secondary subject is not either, and both are cut off. I'm not a believer that some sort of unspoken social commentary, makes a photograph a good photograph. If this is the kind of image that constitutes an incredible photograph, then by God, every person that ever picked up a camera and pressed the shutter release a half dozen times is a good photographer, and we should all stop trying. Tom C. On 08/05/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I missed this as well. Beautifully captured. Very moving. Paul On May 7, 2007, at 5:50 PM, frank theriault wrote: On 5/5/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/22.htm I missed this first time 'round. In incredible photograph. Just incredible... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Prancing Horses
frank theriault wrote: http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=49fYIPjFnN I actually focused on the prancing horse on the mirror, but it still came out blurry. I guess it's the lens, being soft off-centre or something. Can't be my (or the camera's) focusing, right? ;-) Comments welcome. cheers, frank It's most likely to be a badly printed badge... you know Italian cars are not renown for their superb build quality. Supercars are no exception.. ;-) I like the picture too BTW, pity the car was not super clean. Have fun, Andy. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Prancing Horses
let me help you out there Frank... http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RkBpjwA3C7I/AQ0/ZBUC62cjluY/s400/april_30+067.jpg CW - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 1:33 PM Subject: PESO - Prancing Horses I actually focused on the prancing horse on the mirror, but it still came out blurry. I guess it's the lens, being soft off-centre or something. Can't be my (or the camera's) focusing, right? ;-) Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/793 - Release Date: 5/7/2007 2:55 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Prancing Horses
Ok, that's not the first time recently that this has happened but Frank's initial post didn't have a link when it got to my computer. Just forget I said anything CW - Original Message - From: drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 1:55 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Prancing Horses frank theriault wrote: http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=49fYIPjFnN I actually focused on the prancing horse on the mirror, but it still came out blurry. I guess it's the lens, being soft off-centre or something. Can't be my (or the camera's) focusing, right? ;-) Comments welcome. cheers, frank It's most likely to be a badly printed badge... you know Italian cars are not renown for their superb build quality. Supercars are no exception.. ;-) I like the picture too BTW, pity the car was not super clean. Have fun, Andy. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/793 - Release Date: 5/7/2007 2:55 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re:
Granted, everyone has their own taste and I can't, nor do I want to, change that. However, I and several others tend to find the list is often too self-congratulatory. Almost every single photo shown here meets with praise. That tends to diminish the value of truly well-deserved praise, and to some degree it does the photographer a disservice. Some photos are failures (yes there is alway subjectivity), and to tell the photographer otherwise sends the wrong signals. We don't need to do it in a discourteous manner, but we often learn as much or more from failures as we do from successes. D or C-grade work should not be given an A-grade, otherwise what incentive will there be for improvement? When the mechanism that could enable someone to improve is out of order, what then? Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 10:23:28 -0700 (PDT) The was, in some unique way, especially meaningful to one viewer. That doesn't, necessarily, validate it to anyone else. I think that's what every photographer and viewer has to realize. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What? Is Godfrey in a 3rd grade photography? :-) Sorry to appear rude. What is good about this picture? I don't find anything appealing about it. I don't see that it took any more effort than haphazardly raising the camera to one's eye and pressing the shutter release, maybe not even looking through the viewfinder. Not only is the main subject not in clear focus, the secondary subject is not either, and both are cut off. I'm not a believer that some sort of unspoken social commentary, makes a photograph a good photograph. If this is the kind of image that constitutes an incredible photograph, then by God, every person that ever picked up a camera and pressed the shutter release a half dozen times is a good photographer, and we should all stop trying. Tom C. On 08/05/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I missed this as well. Beautifully captured. Very moving. Paul On May 7, 2007, at 5:50 PM, frank theriault wrote: On 5/5/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/22.htm I missed this first time 'round. In incredible photograph. Just incredible... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hi Tom, Let me start saying, that without getting into the story that came with the image (which lifts the image into a different arena) and speaking strictly about the photographic properties of the image, even though I understand the appeal of the photograph and I like (I repeat, I like) the way it's framed and the elements in the photograph, and also I may add that to my eye is an example, albeit not a totally clear one, of a photograph that tells a story (even without Godfrey's explanation I wonder who this person is, if the dog belongs to her, why is she holding her jacket in that way, etc) In my opinion it could be better with a less tight framing, not because I want to see the dog's legs (the way the dog is framed I actually like) but to include maybe some person passing by, looking at her that might actually connect the person with the viewer, etc. Now, I think you are being unfare saying that this is an easy-to-take image, to me that means that you never really tried this genre, which is probably the total opposite to the kind of photography that I see from you, and that I greatly enjoy. Here, you have a split second to decide how to frame a subject, mostly instinctively, that's problably why if you see the contact sheets of some of the masters of street photography you will see that they suck, most of it is done in the editing process, were the eye of the photographer-curator selects what deserves to be published. I for one am happy to see this new work of Godfrey, I enjoy his flawless photographs, but is certainly healthy to see him posting also this other work, I hope he keeps posting more of this. As a viewer I do enjoy looking at this genre, I like this quote that I read somewhere: Street photography is photography for photographers because only knowing how difficult is to get results you learn to enjoy it. That's the best way I can put it. And finally, I'm not a street photographer, now I'm just merely in a phase were I'm trying to take some photographs in the street, I enjoy the process, the thrill and the adrenaline, and from time to time I nail some photos that I enjoy and even share. The rate of pictures taken versus keepers went down, but I find the process more enjoyable, and this has also given me the chance to admire some work that belongs to people that excels in that type of photography. I also welcome the photographs of posters that seem to loosen up a little bit more often, from the top of my head I can name Boris, Jack, Marnie, Paul and the king of them all Frank. Makes the PDML more enjoyable for me. Cheers, Fernando On 5/8/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What? Is Godfrey in a 3rd grade photography? :-) Sorry to appear rude. What is good about this picture? I don't find anything appealing about it. I don't see that it took any more effort than haphazardly raising the camera to one's eye and pressing the shutter release, maybe not even looking through the viewfinder. Not only is the main subject not in clear focus, the secondary subject is not either, and both are cut off. I'm not a believer that some sort of unspoken social commentary, makes a photograph a good photograph. If this is the kind of image that constitutes an incredible photograph, then by God, every person that ever picked up a camera and pressed the shutter release a half dozen times is a good photographer, and we should all stop trying. Tom C. On 08/05/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I missed this as well. Beautifully captured. Very moving. Paul On May 7, 2007, at 5:50 PM, frank theriault wrote: On 5/5/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/22.htm I missed this first time 'round. In incredible photograph. Just incredible... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - It's a boy!
Congratulations!!! May he live long and prosper life and shoot some Pentax ;-). Boris Brendan MacRae wrote: Say hello to Finn Christopher MacRae. Born on Cinco de Mayo @ 15:57PST. http://www.primelensphoto.com/finn.jpg 7lbs 6.4 oz, 21 inches long. My wife really had no pain meds. This wasn't her choice, there just wasn't time. Her doctor almost didn't make it to the delivery room...made for an interesting labor...it's long story. In any event, both mom and baby are doing well. -Brendan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D and Sigma, again, sorry
Humm. I checked on Pentax Canada and Henrys cameras, and i cannot see anything that indicates the 360 does or does not swivel. It says it does bounce, but i like the 180 swivel feature my Nikon SB 80DX has, including the 90 degree bounce. Can those who have the 360 and or 540 confirm which one can do the 180 swivel. That will be my decision maker. Dave On 5/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to send the Sigma in for an upgrade. However, I think something is broken. It won't flash at all. Paul -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gave up on the Sigma. Too many problems. And it quit working completely when I tried it on the K10D. I guess I should send it in, although it's probably off warranty. Sigma updated my EF500 free, even though it was long out of warranty. I bought the Pentax 540. Works great. And I've now added the external battery pack. It's a good unit. I'm gonna get one of those next :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
K10D and Sigma, again, sorry
The 360 does not swivel, just flip up 90*. That is why I want the 540 as well. It has a rebate going right now, but I don't know if that is Canada also. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2
Thank you. As I've stated several times. Me and PS don't get along very well. But I think I'm open to suggestions... Tim Typo Mostly Harmless - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 6:50 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2 I like the idea in this photo a lot. What I would like to see is a bit more separation between the foreground bird and its surroundings. You might be able to do that with a little bit of careful image processing work. Godfrey On May 7, 2007, at 11:38 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: I've already displayed the first one. I think I have material for four of five in a Birds in Heavy Weather serie. The idea of making a serie of them is partly inspired by Marnie's projects. http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=308716 I like the composition in this one. Not fancy, but effecient. Thumb up, or thumb down folks? When asking, I'm thinking of this photo and about the serie idea. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/793 - Release Date: 07.05.2007 14:55 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Paul, I'll speak my mind and hope you don't take offense, because none is intended. You and Frank seem to like almost every single photo that's shown. Maybe you're just two terrifically positive individuals. :-) To some though, it may come across as undiscriminating. When my son was 2 or 3 years old and brought me a crayon-scribbled mess on a sheet of paper and said Look Daddy. Isn't this a pretty picture?, I said yes and praised it unconditionally, as I knew he was doing his best. I'd likely not praise that same picture if he just produced it at age 10, and likely he wouldn't have the same emotions about a picture he drew when he was 3 either. If my 16 year old showed me some artwork and I praised all equally, and especially if I praised what he clearly perceived was inferior as much as the work that excelled, my praise would quickly start to lose it's value. Personally, when I comment on a photo here, I must really like it to give it praise. If I see something that could make it better, I'll sometimes offer that. More likely than not, if I don't like it or think it's just average, the lack of feedback will be my implicit comment. You of course, are entitled to your own tastes and opinions. Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 17:44:19 + At least two viewers. Frank and I both said we liked it. I find it quite fascinating. The juxtaposition of the person and the dog adds interest. The jacket that separates the two is sharply in focus, as the head and the dog become slightly softer background and foreground elements. Social commentary is irrelevant. The pic is good because it's compelling and unique. BTW, I frequently cut off the tops of heads on purpose. If this shot wasn't packed tightly into the frame, it wouldn't be nearly as good. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] The was, in some unique way, especially meaningful to one viewer. That doesn't, necessarily, validate it to anyone else. I think that's what every photographer and viewer has to realize. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What? Is Godfrey in a 3rd grade photography? :-) Sorry to appear rude. What is good about this picture? I don't find anything appealing about it. I don't see that it took any more effort than haphazardly raising the camera to one's eye and pressing the shutter release, maybe not even looking through the viewfinder. Not only is the main subject not in clear focus, the secondary subject is not either, and both are cut off. I'm not a believer that some sort of unspoken social commentary, makes a photograph a good photograph. If this is the kind of image that constitutes an incredible photograph, then by God, every person that ever picked up a camera and pressed the shutter release a half dozen times is a good photographer, and we should all stop trying. Tom C. On 08/05/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I missed this as well. Beautifully captured. Very moving. Paul On May 7, 2007, at 5:50 PM, frank theriault wrote: On 5/5/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/22.htm I missed this first time 'round. In incredible photograph. Just incredible... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2
I didn't say to use Photoshop... I said to do image processing. There *are* other tools. Although, frankly, I would suggest getting over your phobia by buying a book and reading, understanding. Nothing kills a phobia so quickly as understanding. ;-) G On May 8, 2007, at 11:37 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Thank you. As I've stated several times. Me and PS don't get along very well. But I think I'm open to suggestions... I like the idea in this photo a lot. What I would like to see is a bit more separation between the foreground bird and its surroundings. You might be able to do that with a little bit of careful image processing work. http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=308716 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I generally don't comment on photos I don't like. That's why my responses weight heavily on the plus side. And if you're paying attention, you'll notice that when I do comment, I frequently offer a suggestion. If someone really wants a thumbs up or thumbs down, I always reply honestly. I gave Tim's three birds a thumbs down the other day, and I was probably the only list member who didn't like Ken's Cardinal. And I consider Ken a personal friend. If I was tossing bouquets, he would surely get one. Yes, I am entitled to my own tastes and opinions. But that doesn't stop you from critiquing them. How rude. Go back to worrying about Pentax finances. No, wait. Don't. Paul -- Original message -- From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul, I'll speak my mind and hope you don't take offense, because none is intended. You and Frank seem to like almost every single photo that's shown. Maybe you're just two terrifically positive individuals. :-) To some though, it may come across as undiscriminating. When my son was 2 or 3 years old and brought me a crayon-scribbled mess on a sheet of paper and said Look Daddy. Isn't this a pretty picture?, I said yes and praised it unconditionally, as I knew he was doing his best. I'd likely not praise that same picture if he just produced it at age 10, and likely he wouldn't have the same emotions about a picture he drew when he was 3 either. If my 16 year old showed me some artwork and I praised all equally, and especially if I praised what he clearly perceived was inferior as much as the work that excelled, my praise would quickly start to lose it's value. Personally, when I comment on a photo here, I must really like it to give it praise. If I see something that could make it better, I'll sometimes offer that. More likely than not, if I don't like it or think it's just average, the lack of feedback will be my implicit comment. You of course, are entitled to your own tastes and opinions. Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 17:44:19 + At least two viewers. Frank and I both said we liked it. I find it quite fascinating. The juxtaposition of the person and the dog adds interest. The jacket that separates the two is sharply in focus, as the head and the dog become slightly softer background and foreground elements. Social commentary is irrelevant. The pic is good because it's compelling and unique. BTW, I frequently cut off the tops of heads on purpose. If this shot wasn't packed tightly into the frame, it wouldn't be nearly as good. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] The was, in some unique way, especially meaningful to one viewer. That doesn't, necessarily, validate it to anyone else. I think that's what every photographer and viewer has to realize. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What? Is Godfrey in a 3rd grade photography? :-) Sorry to appear rude. What is good about this picture? I don't find anything appealing about it. I don't see that it took any more effort than haphazardly raising the camera to one's eye and pressing the shutter release, maybe not even looking through the viewfinder. Not only is the main subject not in clear focus, the secondary subject is not either, and both are cut off. I'm not a believer that some sort of unspoken social commentary, makes a photograph a good photograph. If this is the kind of image that constitutes an incredible photograph, then by God, every person that ever picked up a camera and pressed the shutter release a half dozen times is a good photographer, and we should all stop trying. Tom C. On 08/05/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I missed this as well. Beautifully captured. Very moving. Paul On May 7, 2007, at 5:50 PM, frank theriault wrote: On 5/5/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/22.htm I missed this first time 'round. In incredible photograph. Just incredible... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net ___ _ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives.
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Ahh yes, the freedom to be intolerant. ;-) Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 18:57:54 + I generally don't comment on photos I don't like. That's why my responses weight heavily on the plus side. And if you're paying attention, you'll notice that when I do comment, I frequently offer a suggestion. If someone really wants a thumbs up or thumbs down, I always reply honestly. I gave Tim's three birds a thumbs down the other day, and I was probably the only list member who didn't like Ken's Cardinal. And I consider Ken a personal friend. If I was tossing bouquets, he would surely get one. Yes, I am entitled to my own tastes and opinions. But that doesn't stop you from critiquing them. How rude. Go back to worrying about Pentax finances. No, wait. Don't. Paul -- Original message -- From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul, I'll speak my mind and hope you don't take offense, because none is intended. You and Frank seem to like almost every single photo that's shown. Maybe you're just two terrifically positive individuals. :-) To some though, it may come across as undiscriminating. When my son was 2 or 3 years old and brought me a crayon-scribbled mess on a sheet of paper and said Look Daddy. Isn't this a pretty picture?, I said yes and praised it unconditionally, as I knew he was doing his best. I'd likely not praise that same picture if he just produced it at age 10, and likely he wouldn't have the same emotions about a picture he drew when he was 3 either. If my 16 year old showed me some artwork and I praised all equally, and especially if I praised what he clearly perceived was inferior as much as the work that excelled, my praise would quickly start to lose it's value. Personally, when I comment on a photo here, I must really like it to give it praise. If I see something that could make it better, I'll sometimes offer that. More likely than not, if I don't like it or think it's just average, the lack of feedback will be my implicit comment. You of course, are entitled to your own tastes and opinions. Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 17:44:19 + At least two viewers. Frank and I both said we liked it. I find it quite fascinating. The juxtaposition of the person and the dog adds interest. The jacket that separates the two is sharply in focus, as the head and the dog become slightly softer background and foreground elements. Social commentary is irrelevant. The pic is good because it's compelling and unique. BTW, I frequently cut off the tops of heads on purpose. If this shot wasn't packed tightly into the frame, it wouldn't be nearly as good. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] The was, in some unique way, especially meaningful to one viewer. That doesn't, necessarily, validate it to anyone else. I think that's what every photographer and viewer has to realize. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What? Is Godfrey in a 3rd grade photography? :-) Sorry to appear rude. What is good about this picture? I don't find anything appealing about it. I don't see that it took any more effort than haphazardly raising the camera to one's eye and pressing the shutter release, maybe not even looking through the viewfinder. Not only is the main subject not in clear focus, the secondary subject is not either, and both are cut off. I'm not a believer that some sort of unspoken social commentary, makes a photograph a good photograph. If this is the kind of image that constitutes an incredible photograph, then by God, every person that ever picked up a camera and pressed the shutter release a half dozen times is a good photographer, and we should all stop trying. Tom C. On 08/05/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I missed this as well. Beautifully captured. Very moving. Paul On May 7, 2007, at 5:50 PM, frank theriault wrote: On 5/5/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/22.htm I missed this first time 'round. In incredible photograph. Just incredible... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net --
Re: PESO - Prancing Horses
On May 8, 2007, at 10:33 AM, frank theriault wrote: http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=49fYIPjFnN I actually focused on the prancing horse on the mirror, but it still came out blurry. I guess it's the lens, being soft off-centre or something. Can't be my (or the camera's) focusing, right? ;-) Focusing errors are never the photographer's fault. ]'-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: rootbeer?
In a message dated 5/8/2007 6:54:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Everything not prohibited is mandatory! The only reason drugs were made illegal in the US is because good old J Edgar Hoover blackmailed them into making them illegal so he would not have to disband the FBI when prohibition was ended. Orwell had no imagination. == Think that's it? I've often wondered by whom and when some drugs were made illegal. Since many like the cocaine in coke, opium in laudanum, etc. were legal for a long, long time. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I don't think that this is a masterpiece, I do understand why some ppl like it and why some don't. Peace. On 5/8/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Fernando, You're right. I'm not a street photographer and do not aspire to be. I have found some photography in the genre to be very appealing, however, including one of Godfrey's exhibited here a year or so ago. It was of an older genteel lady, sitting up sleeping on a bench. I thought it was exquisitely composed and made a very powerful statement. I would go so far as to say that IT was a great photograph. I simply believe this image is no where near as good. Tom C. From: Fernando Terrazzino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 14:20:40 -0400 Hi Tom, Let me start saying, that without getting into the story that came with the image (which lifts the image into a different arena) and speaking strictly about the photographic properties of the image, even though I understand the appeal of the photograph and I like (I repeat, I like) the way it's framed and the elements in the photograph, and also I may add that to my eye is an example, albeit not a totally clear one, of a photograph that tells a story (even without Godfrey's explanation I wonder who this person is, if the dog belongs to her, why is she holding her jacket in that way, etc) In my opinion it could be better with a less tight framing, not because I want to see the dog's legs (the way the dog is framed I actually like) but to include maybe some person passing by, looking at her that might actually connect the person with the viewer, etc. Now, I think you are being unfare saying that this is an easy-to-take image, to me that means that you never really tried this genre, which is probably the total opposite to the kind of photography that I see from you, and that I greatly enjoy. Here, you have a split second to decide how to frame a subject, mostly instinctively, that's problably why if you see the contact sheets of some of the masters of street photography you will see that they suck, most of it is done in the editing process, were the eye of the photographer-curator selects what deserves to be published. I for one am happy to see this new work of Godfrey, I enjoy his flawless photographs, but is certainly healthy to see him posting also this other work, I hope he keeps posting more of this. As a viewer I do enjoy looking at this genre, I like this quote that I read somewhere: Street photography is photography for photographers because only knowing how difficult is to get results you learn to enjoy it. That's the best way I can put it. And finally, I'm not a street photographer, now I'm just merely in a phase were I'm trying to take some photographs in the street, I enjoy the process, the thrill and the adrenaline, and from time to time I nail some photos that I enjoy and even share. The rate of pictures taken versus keepers went down, but I find the process more enjoyable, and this has also given me the chance to admire some work that belongs to people that excels in that type of photography. I also welcome the photographs of posters that seem to loosen up a little bit more often, from the top of my head I can name Boris, Jack, Marnie, Paul and the king of them all Frank. Makes the PDML more enjoyable for me. Cheers, Fernando -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 8/5/07, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: Almost every single photo shown here meets with praise. That's because a lot of people here won't comment on pics that don't do anything for them. Me included. Policy. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 8/5/07, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: What? Is Godfrey in a 3rd grade photography? :-) Sorry to appear rude. What is good about this picture? I don't find anything appealing about it. I don't see that it took any more effort than haphazardly raising the camera to one's eye and pressing the shutter release, maybe not even looking through the viewfinder. Not only is the main subject not in clear focus, the secondary subject is not either, and both are cut off. I'm not a believer that some sort of unspoken social commentary, makes a photograph a good photograph. If this is the kind of image that constitutes an incredible photograph, then by God, every person that ever picked up a camera and pressed the shutter release a half dozen times is a good photographer, and we should all stop trying. I think there's one thing you missed Tomas (sic) It's not just all of the above, but the decision as to how that frame actually is presented as the finished piece. The actual frame chosen, the composition decided upon, possibly post-production, the rendering - how it was printed (in old fashioned speak). That's all a cognitive process beyond just snapping the pic as you intimate. To me, a photograph - any photograph - is more than just what was recorded in front of the lens. To me, it's about what the viewer *feels* when looking at the image. It's about the emotions that one recalls, about one's own experiences, and how that relates to what the photographer has presented. We've all walked past a homeless lady with a dog at some point in our lives, and we all react differently. What makes the shot more than just a fuzzy grab to me is that the image presented by Godfrey conveys what I feel when I walk past a scene like that - slightly blurry because I steal a glance, only recalling the vital elements of the scene - the head, the blanket, the dog. That's all i wanted to see, otherwise I would have gone back and looked harder, looked longer. To me, Godfrey's photograph has captured beautifully the essence of the scene he saw, and turned it into something that I can relate to, and that's the whole point of the exercise. I would go so far as to compare Godfrey's pic to Robert Frank. I look through The Americans and I see echoes of it, and vice versa. Of course, Godfrey is exploring a style here, and Jimminy Cricket, it works for me. Look at Juan Buhler's work and see something else, yet also that works conveys emotions and feelings, and I see fabulous things there, I'm sure a lot of folk on the list do. Can I just end by going over your last para again: If this is the kind of image that constitutes an incredible photograph, then by God, every person that ever picked up a camera and pressed the shutter release a half dozen times is a good photographer, and we should all stop trying. I wouldn't describe it as incredible, but totally credible yes. I would describe it as indicative of what I feel when in proximity to such a scene, and as a standalone piece of work I think it excels beautifully. As such, i wouldn't consider hanging up my cameras just yet. In fact, it's a pic like this that inspires me to go out and try and convey a scene that I know of - try and present something that I like to look at, and maybe someone else will like it too. HTH best, -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D and Sigma, again, sorry
The AF360FGZ unit only has simple vertical movement for bounce. The AF540FGZ unit has both swivel and vertical movements. Check them out on the BH website: a much more succinct and informative delineation of features and specifications than on the Pentax site. I would not buy a flash of this type without a swivel head. Godfrey On May 8, 2007, at 11:20 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Humm. I checked on Pentax Canada and Henrys cameras, and i cannot see anything that indicates the 360 does or does not swivel. It says it does bounce, but i like the 180 swivel feature my Nikon SB 80DX has, including the 90 degree bounce. Can those who have the 360 and or 540 confirm which one can do the 180 swivel. That will be my decision maker. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hi Fernando, You're right. I'm not a street photographer and do not aspire to be. I have found some photography in the genre to be very appealing, however, including one of Godfrey's exhibited here a year or so ago. It was of an older genteel lady, sitting up sleeping on a bench. I thought it was exquisitely composed and made a very powerful statement. I would go so far as to say that IT was a great photograph. I simply believe this image is no where near as good. Tom C. From: Fernando Terrazzino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 14:20:40 -0400 Hi Tom, Let me start saying, that without getting into the story that came with the image (which lifts the image into a different arena) and speaking strictly about the photographic properties of the image, even though I understand the appeal of the photograph and I like (I repeat, I like) the way it's framed and the elements in the photograph, and also I may add that to my eye is an example, albeit not a totally clear one, of a photograph that tells a story (even without Godfrey's explanation I wonder who this person is, if the dog belongs to her, why is she holding her jacket in that way, etc) In my opinion it could be better with a less tight framing, not because I want to see the dog's legs (the way the dog is framed I actually like) but to include maybe some person passing by, looking at her that might actually connect the person with the viewer, etc. Now, I think you are being unfare saying that this is an easy-to-take image, to me that means that you never really tried this genre, which is probably the total opposite to the kind of photography that I see from you, and that I greatly enjoy. Here, you have a split second to decide how to frame a subject, mostly instinctively, that's problably why if you see the contact sheets of some of the masters of street photography you will see that they suck, most of it is done in the editing process, were the eye of the photographer-curator selects what deserves to be published. I for one am happy to see this new work of Godfrey, I enjoy his flawless photographs, but is certainly healthy to see him posting also this other work, I hope he keeps posting more of this. As a viewer I do enjoy looking at this genre, I like this quote that I read somewhere: Street photography is photography for photographers because only knowing how difficult is to get results you learn to enjoy it. That's the best way I can put it. And finally, I'm not a street photographer, now I'm just merely in a phase were I'm trying to take some photographs in the street, I enjoy the process, the thrill and the adrenaline, and from time to time I nail some photos that I enjoy and even share. The rate of pictures taken versus keepers went down, but I find the process more enjoyable, and this has also given me the chance to admire some work that belongs to people that excels in that type of photography. I also welcome the photographs of posters that seem to loosen up a little bit more often, from the top of my head I can name Boris, Jack, Marnie, Paul and the king of them all Frank. Makes the PDML more enjoyable for me. Cheers, Fernando -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I'm with you here Tom. I looked at the link and thought blah, flat-line. But maybe other people see something that stirs some emotion? I just dont know. On 5/8/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Fernando, You're right. I'm not a street photographer and do not aspire to be. I have found some photography in the genre to be very appealing, however, including one of Godfrey's exhibited here a year or so ago. It was of an older genteel lady, sitting up sleeping on a bench. I thought it was exquisitely composed and made a very powerful statement. I would go so far as to say that IT was a great photograph. I simply believe this image is no where near as good. Tom C. From: Fernando Terrazzino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 14:20:40 -0400 Hi Tom, Let me start saying, that without getting into the story that came with the image (which lifts the image into a different arena) and speaking strictly about the photographic properties of the image, even though I understand the appeal of the photograph and I like (I repeat, I like) the way it's framed and the elements in the photograph, and also I may add that to my eye is an example, albeit not a totally clear one, of a photograph that tells a story (even without Godfrey's explanation I wonder who this person is, if the dog belongs to her, why is she holding her jacket in that way, etc) In my opinion it could be better with a less tight framing, not because I want to see the dog's legs (the way the dog is framed I actually like) but to include maybe some person passing by, looking at her that might actually connect the person with the viewer, etc. Now, I think you are being unfare saying that this is an easy-to-take image, to me that means that you never really tried this genre, which is probably the total opposite to the kind of photography that I see from you, and that I greatly enjoy. Here, you have a split second to decide how to frame a subject, mostly instinctively, that's problably why if you see the contact sheets of some of the masters of street photography you will see that they suck, most of it is done in the editing process, were the eye of the photographer-curator selects what deserves to be published. I for one am happy to see this new work of Godfrey, I enjoy his flawless photographs, but is certainly healthy to see him posting also this other work, I hope he keeps posting more of this. As a viewer I do enjoy looking at this genre, I like this quote that I read somewhere: Street photography is photography for photographers because only knowing how difficult is to get results you learn to enjoy it. That's the best way I can put it. And finally, I'm not a street photographer, now I'm just merely in a phase were I'm trying to take some photographs in the street, I enjoy the process, the thrill and the adrenaline, and from time to time I nail some photos that I enjoy and even share. The rate of pictures taken versus keepers went down, but I find the process more enjoyable, and this has also given me the chance to admire some work that belongs to people that excels in that type of photography. I also welcome the photographs of posters that seem to loosen up a little bit more often, from the top of my head I can name Boris, Jack, Marnie, Paul and the king of them all Frank. Makes the PDML more enjoyable for me. Cheers, Fernando -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - It's a boy!
congratulation Brendan! On 5/7/07, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Say hello to Finn Christopher MacRae. Born on Cinco de Mayo @ 15:57PST. http://www.primelensphoto.com/finn.jpg 7lbs 6.4 oz, 21 inches long. My wife really had no pain meds. This wasn't her choice, there just wasn't time. Her doctor almost didn't make it to the delivery room...made for an interesting labor...it's long story. In any event, both mom and baby are doing well. -Brendan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Legacy Air, Inc. 11900 Airport Way Broomfield Colorado 80021 (303) 404-0277 fax (303) 404-0280 www.legacy-air.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 8/5/07, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: Almost every single photo shown here meets with praise. That's because a lot of people here won't comment on pics that don't do anything for them. Me included. Policy. Cheers, Cotty That's my general policy also. It seems a disparity exists as to how the policy is applied. :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Prancing Horses
On 5/8/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Focusing errors are never the photographer's fault. ]'-) Not with the crutch of AF... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: rootbeer?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/8/2007 6:54:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Everything not prohibited is mandatory! The only reason drugs were made illegal in the US is because good old J Edgar Hoover blackmailed them into making them illegal so he would not have to disband the FBI when prohibition was ended. Orwell had no imagination. == Think that's it? I've often wondered by whom and when some drugs were made illegal. Since many like the cocaine in coke, opium in laudanum, etc. were legal for a long, long time. Marnie aka Doe The banning of Marijuana is at least indirectly related to racism (it was seen as a 'Negro Vice' in the first half of the 20th century). Some are still legal from prescription sources (cocaine is used occasionally for medicine, Morphine is actually made from opium). -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Almost every single photo shown here meets with praise. That's because a lot of people here won't comment on pics that don't do anything for them. Me included. Policy. Cheers, Cotty That's my general policy also. It seems a disparity exists as to how the policy is applied. :-) Tom C. By stating that you only comment on pictures you like, you appear to be saying that if you don't comment, you don't like the picture - so you are apparently commenting implicitly! Of course, this is a fallacy, but one that many people would commit. In my case I comment on some photos that I like, and sometimes I don't comment on photos that I like. Sometimes I even comment on photos I don't like, if I think my comments can be useful. Absence of a comment from me should never be taken to mean that I don't like the shot. Furthermore, I may say Nice picture, Henri!, with no further explanation, but I would never say Shit shot, Chim! without some additional reasons why. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2
Yeah. I've heared about books ;-) I have one about Elements, Elements in a snap. Total crap, written by a computer geek. A lot details, but nothing giving me a general understanding. A lot of how's, but no why's. Tim Typo Mostly Harmless - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 6:50 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2 I like the idea in this photo a lot. What I would like to see is a bit more separation between the foreground bird and its surroundings. You might be able to do that with a little bit of careful image processing work. Godfrey On May 7, 2007, at 11:38 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: I've already displayed the first one. I think I have material for four of five in a Birds in Heavy Weather serie. The idea of making a serie of them is partly inspired by Marnie's projects. http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=308716 I like the composition in this one. Not fancy, but effecient. Thumb up, or thumb down folks? When asking, I'm thinking of this photo and about the serie idea. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/793 - Release Date: 07.05.2007 14:55 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re:
Hello Gonz, This is a long held belief, and I'm sure some will differ. When we see a disadvantaged person, any one not totally calloused will feel a degree of empathy for that individual and their plight. That's a natural emotion and a good one. I've seen so many photos displayed here of like subject matter that receive much praise, when I see nothing about the photo itself, that makes it exceptional. It makes me believe that, some at least, are not differentiating between their attachment to the subject matter and the actual merits of the image. The same can be said for photos of cats, dogs, children, and sunsets. It's one of the things I constantly comat when reviewing my own photography, trying to tell the difference between a truly good image and one that I simply have an attachment to. I've also seen photos get a big positive reaction because a story is presented along with the image, and it tends to tug on the heart strings, or give meaning. Well maybe that's part of being human or is an element of photojournalism, and we're all human. Nevertheless, it does to some degree, de-emphasize the image itself. I'm not telling others what to think, of course. Sometime I think we may tend, myself included, not to really look. Tom C. From: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 14:10:01 -0500 I'm with you here Tom. I looked at the link and thought blah, flat-line. But maybe other people see something that stirs some emotion? I just dont know. On 5/8/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Fernando, You're right. I'm not a street photographer and do not aspire to be. I have found some photography in the genre to be very appealing, however, including one of Godfrey's exhibited here a year or so ago. It was of an older genteel lady, sitting up sleeping on a bench. I thought it was exquisitely composed and made a very powerful statement. I would go so far as to say that IT was a great photograph. I simply believe this image is no where near as good. Tom C. From: Fernando Terrazzino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 14:20:40 -0400 Hi Tom, Let me start saying, that without getting into the story that came with the image (which lifts the image into a different arena) and speaking strictly about the photographic properties of the image, even though I understand the appeal of the photograph and I like (I repeat, I like) the way it's framed and the elements in the photograph, and also I may add that to my eye is an example, albeit not a totally clear one, of a photograph that tells a story (even without Godfrey's explanation I wonder who this person is, if the dog belongs to her, why is she holding her jacket in that way, etc) In my opinion it could be better with a less tight framing, not because I want to see the dog's legs (the way the dog is framed I actually like) but to include maybe some person passing by, looking at her that might actually connect the person with the viewer, etc. Now, I think you are being unfare saying that this is an easy-to-take image, to me that means that you never really tried this genre, which is probably the total opposite to the kind of photography that I see from you, and that I greatly enjoy. Here, you have a split second to decide how to frame a subject, mostly instinctively, that's problably why if you see the contact sheets of some of the masters of street photography you will see that they suck, most of it is done in the editing process, were the eye of the photographer-curator selects what deserves to be published. I for one am happy to see this new work of Godfrey, I enjoy his flawless photographs, but is certainly healthy to see him posting also this other work, I hope he keeps posting more of this. As a viewer I do enjoy looking at this genre, I like this quote that I read somewhere: Street photography is photography for photographers because only knowing how difficult is to get results you learn to enjoy it. That's the best way I can put it. And finally, I'm not a street photographer, now I'm just merely in a phase were I'm trying to take some photographs in the street, I enjoy the process, the thrill and the adrenaline, and from time to time I nail some photos that I enjoy and even share. The rate of pictures taken versus keepers went down, but I find the process more enjoyable, and this has also given me the chance to admire some work that belongs to people that excels in that type of photography. I also welcome the photographs of posters that seem to loosen up a little bit more often, from the top of my head I can name Boris, Jack, Marnie, Paul and the king of
Re: OT: rootbeer?
Adam Maas wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/8/2007 6:54:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Everything not prohibited is mandatory! The only reason drugs were made illegal in the US is because good old J Edgar Hoover blackmailed them into making them illegal so he would not have to disband the FBI when prohibition was ended. Orwell had no imagination. == Think that's it? I've often wondered by whom and when some drugs were made illegal. Since many like the cocaine in coke, opium in laudanum, etc. were legal for a long, long time. Marnie aka Doe The banning of Marijuana is at least indirectly related to racism (it was seen as a 'Negro Vice' in the first half of the 20th century). Some are still legal from prescription sources (cocaine is used occasionally for medicine, Morphine is actually made from opium). -Adam I read somewhere (can't remember where right now) that drug laws in the US actually got their start in California as a ban on either opium or opium dens. The laws were designed to target Chinese immigrants. -- Scott Loveless www.twosixteen.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Summer is icumin in
Thanks Cotty - good reply. I'm hoping to photograph some of the wacky goings-on in Dorset around Midsummer, so there should be plenty of ambient light, but I want to be sure I get the gnarled faces of the peasantry as well as the burning torches. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 07 May 2007 21:23 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Summer is icumin in On 7/5/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Or, more plainly put, what's best for photographing torchlit processions? Flash, or no flash? Depends on how much ambient light. We get long twilights, so flash will be good if there's plenty of ambient light. Less so the darker it gets. One problem: flash is daylight colour temperature, and torches and evening skies are much warmer. This is a good example of the colour mismatch: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare4.html But this can be corrected for by using a gold diffuser, or at the photo editing stage. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Point taken. I did give reasons for my reaction. Yes, most of the time a non-reaction from myself means I did not feel compelled for one reason or another. Tom C. From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 20:35:22 +0100 Almost every single photo shown here meets with praise. That's because a lot of people here won't comment on pics that don't do anything for them. Me included. Policy. Cheers, Cotty That's my general policy also. It seems a disparity exists as to how the policy is applied. :-) Tom C. By stating that you only comment on pictures you like, you appear to be saying that if you don't comment, you don't like the picture - so you are apparently commenting implicitly! Of course, this is a fallacy, but one that many people would commit. In my case I comment on some photos that I like, and sometimes I don't comment on photos that I like. Sometimes I even comment on photos I don't like, if I think my comments can be useful. Absence of a comment from me should never be taken to mean that I don't like the shot. Furthermore, I may say Nice picture, Henri!, with no further explanation, but I would never say Shit shot, Chim! without some additional reasons why. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re:
On 5/8/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . By stating that you only comment on pictures you like, you appear to be saying that if you don't comment, you don't like the picture - so you are apparently commenting implicitly! Of course, this is a fallacy, but one that many people would commit. In my case I comment on some photos that I like, and sometimes I don't comment on photos that I like. Sometimes I even comment on photos I don't like, if I think my comments can be useful. Absence of a comment from me should never be taken to mean that I don't like the shot. Furthermore, I may say Nice picture, Henri!, with no further explanation, but I would never say Shit shot, Chim! without some additional reasons why. Yes. I mostly comment positively. If I don't comment, it may be that I didn't have time to look at the photo, it may be that I didn't like it. Despite what was stated earlier by Tom, I do criticize from time to time, but I try to make it constructive criticism if possible, and I try to put it into an overall positive framework. cheers, frank ps: Henri probably doesn't care if you like his pic; likewise, Chim probably isn't insulted that you don't like his. I'm guessing they were fairly secure in their photographic skills... ;-) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
