Re: OT: The modern world confuses me

2007-12-23 Thread Cotty
On 22/12/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

How many computers do you have?

I have three and there's 5 in the house.

Tragic ain't it.

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Re: Anxiously awaiting new scanner

2007-12-23 Thread Cotty
On 22/12/07, Bill Owens, discombobulated, unleashed:

The wife DID order the Veho scanner for me for Christmas, meaning only 2 1/2
days until I see it.

Bill you're a naughty boy!!!

Right, you tell Phyllis I said you have to be in bed no later than 9.30
Christmas Eve, and if you so much as go near that tree before 7am
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Re: OT: The modern world confuses me

2007-12-23 Thread Cotty
On 22/12/07, Polyhead, discombobulated, unleashed:

The Power Computing clones were far superior to ANYTHING apple ever made.

The power of recognition is debatable.

To interested parties, a dog turd is far superior to anything Apple ever made.

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Re: PESO: Holiday Season Saturation

2007-12-23 Thread Cotty
On 22/12/07, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

Took Grace to the mall today in the hopes of seeing Santa. No luck.  
You have to have an appointment and the wait list is about six hours  
long. It's easier to book dinner at the Four Seasons. Anyway, Santa  
resides in a three story castle, which is carefully engineered to  
obstruct any view of him from the outside, thereby guaranteeingpic  
sales to those who must have a shot loved one and Mr. Claus. We  
settled for a pic of Mr. and Mrs. Claus' crib. Lots of room to grow  
the enterprise there; That would be seen as a good thing.http:// 
photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6762296size=lgPaul
No cameras in the mall, BTW. Used my Panasonic TZ1, which is easy to  
hide.


Good grief!!!

here's a working link btw:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6762296size=lg

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Re: PESO 2007 - 52e, 52f - GDG

2007-12-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/12/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

Completely agree with Cottibles here. The first is the Alesha Dixon of
photographs; the second is the Kate Garraway.

LOL

Once upon a time Cottibles knew Kate. She worked with me on and off
about 10 years ago for a year or so. Fag-ash Lil, always smoking. Afraid
of spiders. Ended up on the photocopier t the staff party.

Fabulous woman!


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Re: PESO 2007 - 52e, 52f - GDG

2007-12-23 Thread Brian Walters
H.

My knowledge of British pop/television culture (or Australian pop/television 
culture, for that matter) is minimal.  So, I had to Google both ladies.

I think I get the gist of what Bob was trying to convey and can but agree 
totally with Cotty..



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Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On 23/12/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Completely agree with Cottibles here. The first is the Alesha
 Dixon of
 photographs; the second is the Kate Garraway.
 
 LOL
 
 Once upon a time Cottibles knew Kate. She worked with me on and
 off
 about 10 years ago for a year or so. Fag-ash Lil, always smoking.
 Afraid
 of spiders. Ended up on the photocopier t the staff party.
 
 Fabulous woman!
 
 
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Re: OT: The modern world confuses me

2007-12-23 Thread keith_w
Cotty wrote:
 On 22/12/07, Polyhead, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 The Power Computing clones were far superior to ANYTHING apple ever made.

 The power of recognition is debatable.
 
 To interested parties, a dog turd is far superior to anything Apple ever made.
 

Well, to another dog, certainly!  g

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Re: Watch that white balance, folks!

2007-12-23 Thread keith_w
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 What's white balance?

 Better called white point.

 I disagree, that confuses the nomenclature. White point and black  
 point, in the context of image processing and adjustment, are the  
 limits at which you place the exposure values beyond which values are  
 saturated and zeroed, respectively. White balance is where you place  
 the white color temperature.
 
 White point is the white color temperature setting in the context  
 of a monitor calibration and color space profile.
 
 The use of this expression is pretty specific.
 
 Godfrey

Precisely stated and correct.

The words we put together in a descriptive phrase ARE important, 
technically speaking.

Thanks for clarifying that distinction, Godfrey...

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RE: Portland Fountains

2007-12-23 Thread Bob W
  
  As its my site, I'm entitled to operate it any way I wish.  
 People insist that PNG is not suitable 
  for web images, it is.  They insist i pay for hosting and 
 conform to 
 questionable EULA agreements.
 
 Dude, I host from my home server using copermine too.  But I 
 use jpegs 
 and no one here complains about performance of my DSL service.
Guess 
 what?  It's the freaking interweb and with web-sized images 
 jpeg lossy 
 compression doesn't mean much.
 

I've not complained but mentioned a couple of times that I can't see
your site at all. I'd like to because people generally react very
positively to your photos. I didn't realise you were hosting it
yourself. Something you're doing with it troubles my security settings
and they block the site.

Regards
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Re: Anxiously awaiting new scanner

2007-12-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Let us know how that works.  My sister has my father's slides, but
I've got enough of my own to keep me busy all winter.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Dec 22, 2007 10:38 PM, Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The wife DID order the Veho scanner for me for Christmas, meaning only 2 1/2
 days until I see it.  From the reviews I've read it does an acceptable job
 when slides and negs are scanned into PSE.  I have many of my father's
 family snapshots taken on Kodachrome back as far as the late 40's or early
 50's and look forward to scanning them into the Dell laptop.

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Re: OT: The modern world confuses me

2007-12-23 Thread Derby Chang
keith_w wrote:
 Cotty wrote:
   
 On 22/12/07, Polyhead, discombobulated, unleashed:

 
 The Power Computing clones were far superior to ANYTHING apple ever made.
   

   
 The power of recognition is debatable.

 To interested parties, a dog turd is far superior to anything Apple ever 
 made.

 

 Well, to another dog, certainly!  g

 keith whaley
   

I har'd to Cotty and double-har'd to Keith.

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Re: OT: OMG...

2007-12-23 Thread keith_w
David Savage wrote:
 ...he's turning soft.

Which he is that? Chuck Norris?
Why do you say that?

 http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=339704
 
 Could it be that his roundhouse kick solution to all problems has been
 subverted by a more insidious force:
 
 Lawyers???
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dave (well it made me laugh :-)
 

I think the suit is appropriate and I hope it's successful.

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Re: PESO ~ Winter Alder ~

2007-12-23 Thread Derby Chang
Francis wrote:
 Good evening lady's and gentlemen!
 For your inspection:
 http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=482gallery_id=s=pentaxdiscuss
 Took this last week  while I was prowling around outside my piano 
 teachers the house waiting for my lesson.

 Merry Christmas,
 Francis


   


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Re: OT: OMG...

2007-12-23 Thread Polyhead
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 02:33:00 -0800
keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 David Savage wrote:
  ...he's turning soft.
 
 Which he is that? Chuck Norris?
 Why do you say that?
 
  http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=339704
  
  Could it be that his roundhouse kick solution to all problems has been
  subverted by a more insidious force:
  
  Lawyers???
  
  Cheers,
  
  Dave (well it made me laugh :-)
  
 
 I think the suit is appropriate and I hope it's successful.

And I hope you die of a horrible cancer on your balls.

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Re: OT: OMG...

2007-12-23 Thread David Savage
On Dec 23, 2007 8:23 PM, Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I think the suit is appropriate and I hope it's successful.

 And I hope you die of a horrible cancer on your balls.

Ahhh another internet tough guy...

That was seriously uncalled for.

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Re: OT: OMG...

2007-12-23 Thread David Savage
On Dec 23, 2007 7:33 PM, keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David Savage wrote:
  ...he's turning soft.

 Which he is that? Chuck Norris?
 Why do you say that?


  http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=339704
 
  Could it be that his roundhouse kick solution to all problems has been
  subverted by a more insidious force:
 
  Lawyers???
 
  Cheers,
 
  Dave (well it made me laugh :-)
 

 I think the suit is appropriate and I hope it's successful.

I agree but as soon as I read it I had images of lawers getting the
better of his powerful roundhouse kick :-)

Cheers,

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Re: PESO ~ Winter Alder ~

2007-12-23 Thread David Savage
On Dec 21, 2007 4:41 PM, Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Good evening lady's and gentlemen!

Do you mean us?

 For your inspection:
 http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=482gallery_id=s=pentaxdiscuss
 Took this last week  while I was prowling around outside my piano
 teachers the house waiting for my lesson.

That is a very strong image. I like it quite a bit.

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Re: PESO: Holiday Season Saturation

2007-12-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 23, 2007, at 1:21 AM, Cotty wrote:

 On 22/12/07, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Took Grace to the mall today in the hopes of seeing Santa. No luck.
 You have to have an appointment and the wait list is about six hours
 long. It's easier to book dinner at the Four Seasons. Anyway, Santa
 resides in a three story castle, which is carefully engineered to
 obstruct any view of him from the outside, thereby guaranteeingpic
 sales to those who must have a shot loved one and Mr. Claus. We
 settled for a pic of Mr. and Mrs. Claus' crib. Lots of room to grow
 the enterprise there; That would be seen as a good thing.http://
 photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6762296size=lgPaul
 No cameras in the mall, BTW. Used my Panasonic TZ1, which is easy to
 hide.


 Good grief!!!

 here's a working link btw:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6762296size=lg

Santa Inc is quite an enterprise...

G

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Re: OT: OMG...

2007-12-23 Thread Polyhead
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:39:14 +0900
David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Dec 23, 2007 8:23 PM, Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I think the suit is appropriate and I hope it's successful.
 
  And I hope you die of a horrible cancer on your balls.
 
 Ahhh another internet tough guy...
 
 That was seriously uncalled for.

Supporting frivolous lawsuits that restrict freedom of speech, no, you deserve 
to die of nut cancer.

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Re: PESO ~ Winter Alder ~

2007-12-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Francis wrote:
 Good evening lady's and gentlemen!
 For your inspection:
 http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php? 
 image_id=482gallery_id=s=pentaxdiscuss

Very beautiful. :-)

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Re: OT: OMG...

2007-12-23 Thread Brian Walters
Well...

As one who has suffered from precisely that affliction, I find your suggestion 
(along with almost everything else your foul mouth spews out) highly offensive.

Why don't you do us all a favour and piss off.


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   And I hope you die of a horrible cancer on your balls.
  
 Supporting frivolous lawsuits that restrict freedom of speech, no,
 you deserve to die of nut cancer.


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PESO: Wares

2007-12-23 Thread David Savage
G'day All,

Took this on the way back to the office from Fridays X-mas lunch (~170kb)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2320/2130147403_8107a959bf_o.jpg

This is a very Freo scene. The only thing that could have made it more
so is if the guy in the background was a dreadlocked hippie type :-)

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Re: PESO 2007 - 52e, 52f - GDG

2007-12-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Have to admit: even after looking up these two women, I'm perplexed.

G

On Dec 23, 2007, at 1:50 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

 H.

 My knowledge of British pop/television culture (or Australian pop/ 
 television culture, for that matter) is minimal.  So, I had to  
 Google both ladies.

 I think I get the gist of what Bob was trying to convey and can but  
 agree totally with Cotty..

 Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On 23/12/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Completely agree with Cottibles here. The first is the Alesha
 Dixon of
 photographs; the second is the Kate Garraway.

 LOL

 Once upon a time Cottibles knew Kate. She worked with me on and
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 Afraid
 of spiders. Ended up on the photocopier t the staff party.

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Re: PESO 2007 - 52e, 52f - GDG

2007-12-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/12/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

Have to admit: even after looking up these two women, I'm perplexed.

That's got to be a:


MARK!

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Re: Peso Valeyntine Church revisited.

2007-12-23 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Paul.

Yes the right side did bother me as well, but what do you do eh.:-)

I'll try a square crop and see.

I'll get back out there and do some reshots with the 16-45 and maybe
try Tom's pano idea.

Dave

On Dec 22, 2007 7:46 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I like the concept and the subject. I don't think cropping off the right side 
 of the building works. i would compose just like this next time, but retain 
 the far side of the building and square it up. But that's just me.
 Paul

  -- Original message --
 From: Christine  Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  David:  I look forward to your reshoot--it looks like a lovely location.  By
  the way, I really liked your Quiet Winter shot.
  Cheers, Christine
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Subject: Re: Peso Valeyntine Church revisited.
 
 
   Thanks Dave and Bob.
  
   I plan to go back 1-2 more times. This time i'll have more fire power:-)
  
   I only had the one camera/lens as the drive was more for some 6x7
   shots, but...
  
   Dave
  
   On Dec 22, 2007 2:00 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Dec 23, 2007 12:44 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shot this church back in the spring, with 16-45. Went back on Monday,
after the snow storm
and shot it again with the 28-105 PZ.
   
   
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6760472
   
Just not enough width to get what i wanted. Serves me right for taking
only one lens.:-)
  
   Almost but not quite. A wider lens would have been nice, but I reckon
   a square crop doing away with the empty left hand side works.
  
   But it's a very pleasant scene  I think well worth exploring regularly.
  
  
   Cheers,
  
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Re: PESO: Holiday Season Saturation

2007-12-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/12/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

Santa Inc is quite an enterprise...

So it would seem. Over here there's dozens of the buggers. Ten a penny.
Boozed up and then locked up for preveresions...

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Re: Peso Valeyntine Church revisited.

2007-12-23 Thread David J Brooks
On Dec 22, 2007 7:26 PM, Christine  Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David:  I look forward to your reshoot--it looks like a lovely location.  By
 the way, I really liked your Quiet Winter shot.
 Cheers, Christine

Thanks Christine. Its pouring rain today, but if it leaves some snow,
mid week next week, is supposed to be sunny. I'll try again.

Dave




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  Thanks Dave and Bob.
 
  I plan to go back 1-2 more times. This time i'll have more fire power:-)
 
  I only had the one camera/lens as the drive was more for some 6x7
  shots, but...
 
  Dave
 
  On Dec 22, 2007 2:00 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Dec 23, 2007 12:44 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Shot this church back in the spring, with 16-45. Went back on Monday,
   after the snow storm
   and shot it again with the 28-105 PZ.
  
  
   http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6760472
  
   Just not enough width to get what i wanted. Serves me right for taking
   only one lens.:-)
 
  Almost but not quite. A wider lens would have been nice, but I reckon
  a square crop doing away with the empty left hand side works.
 
  But it's a very pleasant scene  I think well worth exploring regularly.
 
 
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Re: PESO: Wares

2007-12-23 Thread David J Brooks
Nice idea Dave, I'm sure unsure if having the person in the BG works or not.

Dave

On Dec 23, 2007 7:36 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G'day All,

 Took this on the way back to the office from Fridays X-mas lunch (~170kb)

 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2320/2130147403_8107a959bf_o.jpg

 This is a very Freo scene. The only thing that could have made it more
 so is if the guy in the background was a dreadlocked hippie type :-)

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Re: PESO: Holiday Season Saturation

2007-12-23 Thread David J Brooks
Disneyland Jr.

Thats quite the crib

Dave

On Dec 22, 2007 10:44 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Took Grace to the mall today in the hopes of seeing Santa. No luck.
 You have to have an appointment and the wait list is about six hours
 long. It's easier to book dinner at the Four Seasons. Anyway, Santa
 resides in a three story castle, which is carefully engineered to
 obstruct any view of him from the outside, thereby guaranteeingpic
 sales to those who must have a shot loved one and Mr. Claus. We
 settled for a pic of Mr. and Mrs. Claus' crib. Lots of room to grow
 the enterprise there; That would be seen as a good thing.http://
 photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6762296size=lgPaul
 No cameras in the mall, BTW. Used my Panasonic TZ1, which is easy to
 hide.
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Re: PESO: Holiday Season Saturation

2007-12-23 Thread David J Brooks
On Dec 23, 2007 8:01 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 23/12/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Santa Inc is quite an enterprise...

 So it would seem. Over here there's dozens of the buggers. Ten a penny.
 Boozed up and then locked up for preveresions...

Are they hiring.

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Re: Anxiously awaiting new scanner

2007-12-23 Thread David J Brooks
Don't forget to act suprised.:-)

Dave

On Dec 22, 2007 11:38 PM, Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The wife DID order the Veho scanner for me for Christmas, meaning only 2 1/2
 days until I see it.  From the reviews I've read it does an acceptable job
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 family snapshots taken on Kodachrome back as far as the late 40's or early
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Re: Peso Valeyntine Church revisited.

2007-12-23 Thread David J Brooks
On Dec 22, 2007 2:23 PM, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Time to learn how to do panos, Dave.
D'oh, i never even thought of that. Even after 7 years in digital,
brain still think sin film at times.:-)

Dave

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Re: Super A blocked

2007-12-23 Thread Vic Mortelmans
Hi,

the batteries are fresh, but nevertheless I loaded a new pair, whithout 
improvement.

Note that there's still metering information on the display: the camera 
behaves just as if it is not cocked, apart from the fact that the 
winding lever cannot be advanded.

Anyway, the old, trustworthy Spotmatic F is backing up, so I'm OK.

Groeten,
Vic

Adam Maas wrote:
 Before you do anything else, replace the battery. Like many camera's
 of that era, a low battery can cause lockups.
 
 -Adam
 
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 Hi,

 My Super A (a.k.a. Super Program, my most advanced camera body at this
 moment) has locked up today... I made a shot, and advanced the film, but
 the 'cocked' sign in the display does not show up, and the camera can't
 be fired. So it seems like either the winding mechanisme locked up half
 way, or it did wind properly, but the camera doesn't detect this...

 I manage to take off the base plate and the top plate, but don't see any
 obvious problems and I'm not really in to further disassembly, not
 knowing what to look for.

 But before I take it to a repair shop (is it still worth a repair? It
 cost me 90 euro and I know that even an attempt to repair will cost me
 at least around 70 euro), I'd like to check on this forum if there's no
 easy way I could solve this. I was thinking of

 1. an indication of the part that 'detects' the shutter is cocked (which
 I think may fail e.g. because of bad electronic contact?)

 2. an indication if there's a way to force the camera to release
 (assuming that it is properly cocked, and which may return it into
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Re: PESO: Wares

2007-12-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I like this one! not sure what a Freo scene is, however.

Godfrey

On Dec 23, 2007 7:36 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G'day All,

 Took this on the way back to the office from Fridays X-mas lunch  
 (~170kb)

 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2320/2130147403_8107a959bf_o.jpg

 This is a very Freo scene. The only thing that could have made it more
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Test

2007-12-23 Thread Paul Dunderdale
My last few posts haven't shown here.

Pity, as I have replied to Cotty and P.J. Alling, who must consider  
me very rude.

HoHum.

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Re: Peso Valeyntine Church revisited.

2007-12-23 Thread David Savage
On Dec 23, 2007 10:02 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Dec 22, 2007 2:23 PM, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Time to learn how to do panos, Dave.
 D'oh, i never even thought of that. Even after 7 years in digital,
 brain still think sin film at times.:-)

I used to take pano sequences with film long before I had any how I
was going to stick them together.

Then I got a film scanner and discovered digital post processing. :-)

Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Holiday Season Saturation

2007-12-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
Gotta remember not to post after drinking all night. Anyway, if  
anyone really wants to see the santa monstrosity, blown highlights  
and all, it's here:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6762296size=lg

Soon to be deleted:-).
Paul


On Dec 22, 2007, at 10:44 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Took Grace to the mall today in the hopes of seeing Santa. No luck.
 You have to have an appointment and the wait list is about six hours
 long. It's easier to book dinner at the Four Seasons. Anyway, Santa
 resides in a three story castle, which is carefully engineered to
 obstruct any view of him from the outside, thereby guaranteeingpic
 sales to those who must have a shot loved one and Mr. Claus. We
 settled for a pic of Mr. and Mrs. Claus' crib. Lots of room to grow
 the enterprise there; That would be seen as a good thing.

 http:// photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6762296size=lg

 Paul
 No cameras in the mall, BTW. Used my Panasonic TZ1, which is easy to
 hide.
 Happy Holiday,
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Re: OT: OMG...

2007-12-23 Thread cbwaters
That was a very insensitive thing to say. Absolutely unacceptable in 
polite company.  This is ostensibly a family-friendly list.
Perhaps you have not had the experience of having somebody you know 
wither away and die from cancer. If that's true, you've been very lucky so 
far. I hope that luck holds out for you. If you have, then I would say that 
you are possibly the most insensitive person out there.
I try really hard not to get swept-up in the average flame war.
  We have many people on this list from all over the world.  Most of the 
regular posters are quite easy to get along with.  True, some are more work 
to deal with but they generally have some redeeming qualities that make the 
work worthwhile.  Many of us have been coexisting here for a very long time.
You need to go back from whence you came and learn how to get along with 
people.  Your redeeming qualities have so far remained quite hidden.  Maybe 
you're not as difficult in person but your internet bravado isn't endearing 
at all.
Please make some attempt to get along with people or hit the road.  When 
you've gathered what it takes to be part of a community, you're welcome to 
return to talk about cameras and pictures.

This isn't really a personal thing.  Honestly, I'm more interested in the 
equilibrium of the list than poking at you.

Please have a nice Christmas.

Cory Waters


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Re: PESO: Holiday Season Saturation

2007-12-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yeah, it's gotten out of hand. But Grace was thrilled. Didn't care  
that she couldn't get close. I'll make a print of the castle for her,  
then destroy the file before more eyes are damaged:-).
Paul
On Dec 23, 2007, at 7:12 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 On Dec 23, 2007, at 1:21 AM, Cotty wrote:

 On 22/12/07, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Took Grace to the mall today in the hopes of seeing Santa. No luck.
 You have to have an appointment and the wait list is about six hours
 long. It's easier to book dinner at the Four Seasons. Anyway, Santa
 resides in a three story castle, which is carefully engineered to
 obstruct any view of him from the outside, thereby guaranteeingpic
 sales to those who must have a shot loved one and Mr. Claus. We
 settled for a pic of Mr. and Mrs. Claus' crib. Lots of room to grow
 the enterprise there; That would be seen as a good thing.http://
 photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6762296size=lgPaul
 No cameras in the mall, BTW. Used my Panasonic TZ1, which is easy to
 hide.


 Good grief!!!

 here's a working link btw:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6762296size=lg

 Santa Inc is quite an enterprise...

 G

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Re: PESO: Wares

2007-12-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
That's Freemantle NSW? I looked it up on Google Maps, but it didn't  
locate much of a town there.

Godfrey

On Dec 23, 2007, at 6:22 AM, David Savage wrote:

 not sure what a Freo scene is, however.

 Freo is what us locals call the city of Fremantle. There is a strong
 arts  counter culture element here. As such there are a lot of
 buskers, markets  street stalls like the one pictured. Combined with
 the old buildings it gives Freo it's charm  character.

 Unfortunately it's character is slowly being eroded by big businesses
  an influx of yuppies.


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RE: PESO: Holiday Season Saturation

2007-12-23 Thread Bob W
I saw Santa's willy once. I was working for a well-known department
store in central London. I went to the loo and was peacefully doing
the needful when Santa arrived at the next urinal and rather
ostentatiously got out his purple-nosed moose. 

I thought to myself I don't want him coming down the chimney.

--
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 Subject: Re: PESO: Holiday Season Saturation
 
 On 23/12/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Santa Inc is quite an enterprise...
 
 So it would seem. Over here there's dozens of the buggers. 
 Ten a penny.
 Boozed up and then locked up for preveresions...
 


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Re: Test

2007-12-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
That one made it through ... :-)

G

On Dec 23, 2007, at 5:40 AM, Paul Dunderdale wrote:

 My last few posts haven't shown here.

 Pity, as I have replied to Cotty and P.J. Alling, who must consider
 me very rude.

 HoHum.

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Re: PESO: Wares

2007-12-23 Thread David Savage
On Dec 23, 2007 10:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I like this one!

Thank you.

 not sure what a Freo scene is, however.

Freo is what us locals call the city of Fremantle. There is a strong
arts  counter culture element here. As such there are a lot of
buskers, markets  street stalls like the one pictured. Combined with
the old buildings it gives Freo it's charm  character.

Unfortunately it's character is slowly being eroded by big businesses
 an influx of yuppies.

Cheers,

Dave



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RE: PESO 2007 - 52e, 52f - GDG

2007-12-23 Thread Bob W
 
 Have to admit: even after looking up these two women, I'm perplexed.
 
 G
 

I'm always rather perplexed after looking up women, Godfrey, so you're
not alone.

They have recently been participants in a pro-celebrity ballroom
dancing competition. Aleesha Dixon won and is the nation's new
sweetheart. Kate Whats'ername on the other hand dances like a sack of
seaweed.

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Re: PESO: Wares

2007-12-23 Thread David Savage
No, Fremantle (one e) W.A. Australia.

Cheers,

Dave

On Dec 23, 2007 11:30 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That's Freemantle NSW? I looked it up on Google Maps, but it didn't
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Re: PESO: Holiday Season Saturation

2007-12-23 Thread David Savage
On Dec 23, 2007 11:30 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I saw Santa's willy once. I was working for a well-known department
 store in central London. I went to the loo and was peacefully doing
 the needful when Santa arrived at the next urinal and rather
 ostentatiously got out his purple-nosed moose.

 I thought to myself I don't want him coming down the chimney.

LOL.

Thanks for sharing that Bob.

Cheers,

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Better Late Than Never (December PUG)

2007-12-23 Thread Evan Hanson
I've been exceptionally busy this month but I didn't want the month  
to slip by without commenting on December PUG.

Absolute favorite:
Charlie by Frank.

Honorable Mentions:
Charlie by David

Watching Cartoons by Jens

and

Flying by Reinhard

All around an excellent gallery.  Keep up the good work.

Evan

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Re: OT: The modern world confuses me

2007-12-23 Thread Stan Halpin
I bought a couple of clones for my office - don't remember which  
variety. I recall a series of hardware and software incompatibilities  
- finally was able to dump them and go back to genuine Apple.

stan

On Dec 22, 2007, at 8:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The agency I worked at in he eighties had a mix of Macs and Power  
 Computing clones. The clones were always problematic, and they  
 eventually ended up on the trash heap. it was Apple's idea to  
 license the op sys to clones. It didn't work, and they went back to  
 being exclusive. Looking at the stock price and the market  
 penetration, I'd say it was a very good choice.
 Paul
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 On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:07:06 +
 Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 22/12/07, Polyhead, apparently very discombobulated, unleashed:

 In 2002 I was working with a company called genesi on their then  
 new
 Pegasus board.  It was a standard MATX form PPC board with an open
 firmware system.  During benchmarking, we found that our 500mhz g3
 machine was 30% faster than apples g3 machines, all of them, and  
 on top
 of that, ours sold new for the half the price of a used g3 machine!
 Apple boards are of poor design, with poor performing north  
 bridges and
 a questionable dma controller.  The pci bus is high in latency,  
 so high,
 you can loose 10% of your performance just by using a pci card  
 of any
 sort in one.

 That's all very nice but what was the tea like?

 I don't know anything about benchmarking and boards, I'm a  
 cameraman.
 All I know is that the Apple stuff seems to work okay, and I can  
 afford
 it, so I'm a happy (if lunatic) bunny.

 I'm the evil lil bun bun :D


 I'll also never forgive apple for what they did to the clones,  
 greedy
 bastards.

 Even during those days, I never would have considered a clone.  
 Maybe an
 ice cleam clone.

 The Power Computing clones were far superior to ANYTHING apple  
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Re: PESO 2007 - 52e, 52f - GDG

2007-12-23 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Have to admit: even after looking up these two women, I'm perplexed.

Mark!


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Re: Peso Valeyntine Church revisited.

2007-12-23 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 think sin film 

Mark!


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RE: PESO: Holiday Season Saturation

2007-12-23 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/12/23 Sun PM 02:30:26 GMT
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: PESO: Holiday Season Saturation
 
 I saw Santa's willy once. I was working for a well-known department
 store in central London. I went to the loo and was peacefully doing
 the needful when Santa arrived at the next urinal and rather
 ostentatiously got out his purple-nosed moose. 

Was there a jingling noise as he did so?

 
 I thought to myself I don't want him coming down the chimney.
 
 --
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  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of Cotty
  Sent: 23 December 2007 13:02
  To: pentax list
  Subject: Re: PESO: Holiday Season Saturation
  
  On 23/12/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
  
  Santa Inc is quite an enterprise...
  
  So it would seem. Over here there's dozens of the buggers. 
  Ten a penny.
  Boozed up and then locked up for preveresions...
  
 
 
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PESO: another winter scene

2007-12-23 Thread Stan Halpin
We drove up to mid-Michigan for the holidays, our trip carefully  
calibrated to occur 24 hours before the recent/current snow, ice,  
etc. But we did have light-to-heavy fog most of the way from KC to  
southern Michigan.  This is one shot I took along the way...

http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p612914030/?photo=h37BEF3D5#935261141

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Re: PESO: Holiday Season Saturation

2007-12-23 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/12/23 Sun PM 02:13:47 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO: Holiday Season Saturation
 
 Gotta remember not to post after drinking all night. Anyway, if  
 anyone really wants to see the santa monstrosity, blown highlights  
 and all, it's here:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6762296size=lg
 
 Soon to be deleted:-).
 Paul

The really sad thing is that this could be almost anywhere in the world.

 
 
 On Dec 22, 2007, at 10:44 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
  Took Grace to the mall today in the hopes of seeing Santa. No luck.
  You have to have an appointment and the wait list is about six hours
  long. It's easier to book dinner at the Four Seasons. Anyway, Santa
  resides in a three story castle, which is carefully engineered to
  obstruct any view of him from the outside, thereby guaranteeingpic
  sales to those who must have a shot loved one and Mr. Claus. We
  settled for a pic of Mr. and Mrs. Claus' crib. Lots of room to grow
  the enterprise there; That would be seen as a good thing.
 
  http:// photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6762296size=lg
 
  Paul
  No cameras in the mall, BTW. Used my Panasonic TZ1, which is easy to
  hide.
  Happy Holiday,
  Paul
 
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Re: OT: OMG...

2007-12-23 Thread Mark Roberts
keith_w wrote:

David Savage wrote:
 ...he's turning soft.

Which he is that? Chuck Norris?
Why do you say that?

 http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=339704
 
 Could it be that his roundhouse kick solution to all problems has been
 subverted by a more insidious force:
 
 Lawyers???
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dave (well it made me laugh :-)

I think the suit is appropriate and I hope it's successful.

My first thought was that it was a suit against people passing those 
silly facts about Chuck Norris around the Internet, which would be 
silly and frivolous. But Penguin books *publishing* the stuff without 
clearing it with Chuck Norris? They *do* deserve to be sued. (And 
whoever greenlighted the project without running it by the company 
lawyers should be shown the door...)


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Re: Portland Fountains

2007-12-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Charles Robinson wrote:

Imagine that thumbnails that draw in less than 10 seconds.  
That's at least a usable site. 

What a lot of people don't realize that web usability is a lot harder 
to learn than the geeky code stuff. Any twit can learn the bits end 
of web design, but learning to build web sites that people can (and 
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the fact that compromise is necessary.

The preeminent authority on the subject is Dr. Jakob Nielsen: 
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Re: OT: The modern world confuses me

2007-12-23 Thread Cory Papenfuss
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The agency I worked at in he eighties had a mix of Macs and Power 
 Computing clones. The clones were always problematic, and they 
 eventually ended up on the trash heap. it was Apple's idea to license 
 the op sys to clones. It didn't work, and they went back to being 
 exclusive. Looking at the stock price and the market penetration, I'd 
 say it was a very good choice. Paul -- Original message 
 -- From: Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:07:06 +

I was a pretty big mac guy at the time of the clones.  As I recall 
they primarily killed the clones because they were losing their shirt by 
the clones cannibalizing their marketshare.  Clones were very 
price-competitive with PC's at the time especially on the high-end. 
Apple's high-end machines have always been priced very high (and generally 
not perform to match the price).  They've always made their money on 
hardware, not software but their software is what makes them unique.

As far as the incompatibilities, that's the way PCs in general are 
when you don't have control over both the hardware and software.  Look at 
winders.

I'm still anxiously watching to see how the Hackintosh stuff pans 
out.  (running MacOS-X on non-Apple PC's).

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Re: PESO: Holiday Season Saturation

2007-12-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 23, 2007, at 6:30 AM, Bob W wrote:

 I saw Santa's willy once. I was working for a well-known department
 store in central London. I went to the loo and was peacefully doing
 the needful when Santa arrived at the next urinal and rather
 ostentatiously got out his purple-nosed moose.

 I thought to myself I don't want him coming down the chimney.


And just when we're getting into the mood of stuffing the christmas  
goose, eh?

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Re: Super A blocked

2007-12-23 Thread David J Brooks
I have one for sale, should the need arise.

Dave

On Dec 23, 2007 8:23 AM, Vic Mortelmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 the batteries are fresh, but nevertheless I loaded a new pair, whithout
 improvement.

 Note that there's still metering information on the display: the camera
 behaves just as if it is not cocked, apart from the fact that the
 winding lever cannot be advanded.

 Anyway, the old, trustworthy Spotmatic F is backing up, so I'm OK.

 Groeten,
 Vic


 Adam Maas wrote:
  Before you do anything else, replace the battery. Like many camera's
  of that era, a low battery can cause lockups.
 
  -Adam
 
  On 12/22/07, Vic Mortelmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  My Super A (a.k.a. Super Program, my most advanced camera body at this
  moment) has locked up today... I made a shot, and advanced the film, but
  the 'cocked' sign in the display does not show up, and the camera can't
  be fired. So it seems like either the winding mechanisme locked up half
  way, or it did wind properly, but the camera doesn't detect this...
 
  I manage to take off the base plate and the top plate, but don't see any
  obvious problems and I'm not really in to further disassembly, not
  knowing what to look for.
 
  But before I take it to a repair shop (is it still worth a repair? It
  cost me 90 euro and I know that even an attempt to repair will cost me
  at least around 70 euro), I'd like to check on this forum if there's no
  easy way I could solve this. I was thinking of
 
  1. an indication of the part that 'detects' the shutter is cocked (which
  I think may fail e.g. because of bad electronic contact?)
 
  2. an indication if there's a way to force the camera to release
  (assuming that it is properly cocked, and which may return it into
  normal operation)
 
  Thanks for any suggestions!
 
  Groeten,
  Vic
 
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Re: PESO 2007 - 52e, 52f - GDG

2007-12-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 23, 2007, at 6:34 AM, Bob W wrote:

 I'm always rather perplexed after looking up women, Godfrey, so you're
 not alone.

I suspect that the expression looking up women means something  
different than I intended, to some at least ... ah well. ;-)

 They have recently been participants in a pro-celebrity ballroom
 dancing competition. Aleesha Dixon won and is the nation's new
 sweetheart. Kate Whats'ername on the other hand dances like a sack of
 seaweed.

I see. What does the seaweed think of that?

Godfrey

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Re: PESO: Wares

2007-12-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hah! That explains it. :-) Thanks.

I've only been to Sydney in Australia, once, so far. Obviously,  
there's much to explore...  ;-)

Godfrey


On Dec 23, 2007, at 6:38 AM, David Savage wrote:

 No, Fremantle (one e) W.A. Australia.

 That's Freemantle NSW? I looked it up on Google Maps, but it didn't
 locate much of a town there.


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Re: GESO - Classical Consort at Trinity College Chapel - The Whole Deal

2007-12-23 Thread ann sanfedele
refreshing comes to mind.  I think my personal favorite is the second 
to last... which is a kind of odd choice for me.
the vertical shot might benefit from a bit of cropping from the top.  A 
nice essay on the scene, frank.

frank theriault wrote:

Yesterday's was a mini, today's is a full sized GESO.  I'll start with
the two from yesterday, then the ones that I did last night.  I've got
lots and lots more to add, but unless they're spectacular, I doubt
I'll show any more after today (not that today's are spectacular, but
they're representative):

http://tinyurl.com/27j9go
http://tinyurl.com/ywepx5
http://tinyurl.com/2rnj7v
http://tinyurl.com/3543l9
http://tinyurl.com/37lwug
http://tinyurl.com/3xqskx
http://tinyurl.com/3bjfn6

Comments welcome!

thanks,
frank

  




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Re: OT: OMG...

2007-12-23 Thread David J Brooks
On Dec 23, 2007 7:13 AM, Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:39:14 +0900
 David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Dec 23, 2007 8:23 PM, Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the suit is appropriate and I hope it's successful.
  
   And I hope you die of a horrible cancer on your balls.
 
  Ahhh another internet tough guy...
 
  That was seriously uncalled for.

 Supporting frivolous lawsuits that restrict freedom of speech, no, you 
 deserve to die of nut cancer.

I think its time you sell your P30 and buy a Nikon D40x. You'll fit
right in on those BB's.

No off to set up my kill files.

Dave

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Re: PESO 2007 - 52e, 52f - GDG

2007-12-23 Thread David J Brooks
I like 52e a lot. Like someone already mentioned, a ghost like quality to it.

Dave

On Dec 22, 2007 4:17 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Two photos from different sets ...

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/52e.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/52f.htm

 Comments and critique always appreciated.

 enjoy
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Peso Valyntine church cropped

2007-12-23 Thread David J Brooks
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6763774

Squared the church photo at 800 x  800.

Does this look at bit better.

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Re: Peso Valyntine church cropped

2007-12-23 Thread Christine Aguila
Dave:  I like this crop much better.  Cheers, Christine


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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6763774

 Squared the church photo at 800 x  800.

 Does this look at bit better.

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Re: PESO - Hopeful

2007-12-23 Thread Boris Liberman
Cotty, you're so right ;-).

Bruce, also the sleeve of his hmm shirt seems to be blown out white on 
my screen. It grabs much of attention.

The shot itself is just perfect, but what Cotty said and that sleeve 
highlight - they are hmmm imperfections.

Boris


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 On 21/12/07, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Little Leaguer up to bat hoping to get a hit.

 Pentax K10D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 300mm, monopod
 ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/4

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/giants_0002.htm
 
 That's a lovely pic mate, but you know what, it would help me to see
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Re: Super A blocked

2007-12-23 Thread Jack Davis
Me too..@50% OFF!  ;)

Jack
--- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have one for sale, should the need arise.
 
 Dave
 
 On Dec 23, 2007 8:23 AM, Vic Mortelmans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  the batteries are fresh, but nevertheless I loaded a new pair,
 whithout
  improvement.
 
  Note that there's still metering information on the display: the
 camera
  behaves just as if it is not cocked, apart from the fact that the
  winding lever cannot be advanded.
 
  Anyway, the old, trustworthy Spotmatic F is backing up, so I'm OK.
 
  Groeten,
  Vic
 
 
  Adam Maas wrote:
   Before you do anything else, replace the battery. Like many
 camera's
   of that era, a low battery can cause lockups.
  
   -Adam
  
   On 12/22/07, Vic Mortelmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi,
  
   My Super A (a.k.a. Super Program, my most advanced camera body
 at this
   moment) has locked up today... I made a shot, and advanced the
 film, but
   the 'cocked' sign in the display does not show up, and the
 camera can't
   be fired. So it seems like either the winding mechanisme locked
 up half
   way, or it did wind properly, but the camera doesn't detect
 this...
  
   I manage to take off the base plate and the top plate, but don't
 see any
   obvious problems and I'm not really in to further disassembly,
 not
   knowing what to look for.
  
   But before I take it to a repair shop (is it still worth a
 repair? It
   cost me 90 euro and I know that even an attempt to repair will
 cost me
   at least around 70 euro), I'd like to check on this forum if
 there's no
   easy way I could solve this. I was thinking of
  
   1. an indication of the part that 'detects' the shutter is
 cocked (which
   I think may fail e.g. because of bad electronic contact?)
  
   2. an indication if there's a way to force the camera to release
   (assuming that it is properly cocked, and which may return it
 into
   normal operation)
  
   Thanks for any suggestions!
  
   Groeten,
   Vic
  
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Re: GESO: Frozen fog and spider webs

2007-12-23 Thread Boris Liberman
Toine, I tried to open the link in MS IE 6.0... For me it is extremely 
difficult to navigate though I normally don't hmm complain about such 
things...

Lovely shot of that web... Never thought that fog can actually freeze ;-).

Boris



Toine wrote:
 This week we had the pleasure of lots of frozen fog. The spider webs
 look very fragile:
 
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Re: PESO: Floating on Lilies

2007-12-23 Thread Boris Liberman
I totally support your resolution, Bong. As well you should post way 
more often. The more cultural diversity we have on this list, the better 
it is for everyone. This of course includes your view of the world and 
naturally your photographs!

I wonder if you could apply some Fill Light like Adobe Lightroom 
allows to do... Slightly brighter shades would seem to improve the 
picture...

Boris


Bong Manayon wrote:
 Hello...
 
 Sort of made a new year's resolve - post more often!  And why wait for
 the new year? :-)
 
 http://www.bong.uni.cc/peso/2007-01.htm
 
 It's a sunrise shot on a nearby lake.  I was hoping to get a water
 foreground except it strewn with water lilies.  I had to fire the
 built-in flash of the DS for this one.
 
 Thanks for looking!
 
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Re: OT: The modern world confuses me

2007-12-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 23, 2007, at 7:53 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote:

 On Sun, 23 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The agency I worked at in he eighties had a mix of Macs and Power
 Computing clones. The clones were always problematic, and they
 eventually ended up on the trash heap. it was Apple's idea to license
 the op sys to clones. It didn't work, and they went back to being
 exclusive. Looking at the stock price and the market penetration, I'd
 say it was a very good choice. Paul -- Original message
 -- From: Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:07:06 +

   I was a pretty big mac guy at the time of the clones.  As I recall
 they primarily killed the clones because they were losing their  
 shirt by
 the clones cannibalizing their marketshare.  Clones were very
 price-competitive with PC's at the time especially on the high- 
 end.
 Apple's high-end machines have always been priced very high (and  
 generally
 not perform to match the price).  They've always made their money on
 hardware, not software but their software is what makes them  
 unique.

   As far as the incompatibilities, that's the way PCs in general are
 when you don't have control over both the hardware and software.   
 Look at
 winders.

   I'm still anxiously watching to see how the Hackintosh stuff pans
 out.  (running MacOS-X on non-Apple PC's).

Since I worked at Apple during the period that the OS/hardware  
licensing program was created and implemented, and worked extensively  
with both the Apple engineering/support and third-party manufacturer  
teams involved, I have a perhaps unique and more knowledgeable  
perspective on these issues than others on this list. Way way way too  
much to describe it all here...

Succinctly:

- Some of the third party manufacturers had some very very good  
designs in mind, none of which ever went to market although  
prototypes were made and shown.

- Most of what did get to market were OK machines, some with very  
good performance surpassing what Apple was making at the time. But  
most often they got their price advantage by using inexpensive  
components and suffered higher failure rates than what Apple was  
building. Apple, even in those days at its nadir with profitability  
and survivability sliding down the tubes faster than you can say  
Bankrupt! with only very rare exception built systems with  
excellent reliability and quality components. (One of the exceptions  
was the PowerBook 5300 ... an amazing tool to export profit out of  
the company through warranty repair...)

- The biggest issue with the Apple license and deliverables,  
technically, was that it constrained the 3rd party developers too  
much to innovate and build anything that was truly innovative and  
useful. Mac OS versions prior to the existence of Mac OS X was  
extremely tightly bound to the specifics of the Apple ROM and  
Motorola ... there was really no good way to do anything much  
different from what Apple did and make it compatible.

- The Apple Mac OS Licensing program was a failure. It did not expand  
the market share of Mac OS, it did not improve profits to Apple  
Computer (it has been estimated that every license-based system sold  
cost Apple Computer $300-400 in lost revenues ... and that's not  
accounting for the cost derived from cannibalizing Apple sales!), it  
did not generate good will in the hardware/software vendor  
development community, and it ended up stranding a whole lot of Apple  
customers with dead-end machines that failed rapidly and  
unrepairably. It ended up costing Apple even more money when SJ  
correctly killed it, paying the license reimbursement and termination  
penalty fees in full to the licensees. But killing it was the right  
thing to do.

The subject of OS licensing has a long and bitterly fought history at  
Apple. I won't articulate my position on it as it doesn't matter at  
all (of course I have an opinion...), but when all is said and done,  
they must be doing something right to have gone from less than 6 days  
of operating capital and $4.32 a share at the bottom in 1997 to  
having $5 billion plus cash reserve and a thrice-split stock price at  
$193+ in 10 years.

Apple hardware today is the best it's ever been and a good value for  
dollar. The fact that you can use it to run three operating systems  
(Mac OS X, Linux and Windows), all with screaming performance and  
high reliability, makes it unique in todays computer market. Mac OS X  
today is a very strong, robust, richly featured operating system,  
designed and implemented for at least a twenty year development life.

I see absolutely no point to the hackintosh stuff. It was *easy* to  
run Mac OS X on generic Intel PC boxes when we were building it ... I  
was directly involved in that project from 1999 to 2004, in various  
capacities ... and to anyone with good engineering skills it would  
not be difficult to backwards engineer it and 

Re: PESO Revision with Rick-Sized Verticals :-) and Thanks

2007-12-23 Thread Boris Liberman
Christine, we used to have WESO (or whatever is the name) on the list. 
Meaning Workshop Every So Often. A list member would post a picture as 
ask folks to process it to their liking. I think I might have processed 
this one slightly different. For example, I find that a very slight warm 
toning (that I think used to appear on the original version) would do 
nicely here. The perceptual contrast between the snow and warm toning 
would really hmmm add atmosphere here...

Like I said before - very pleasant frame to start with ;-).

Boris


Christine Aguila wrote:
 Thanks Everyone for the help with my first 2 PESOs  the warm welcome.
 
 Rick-Sized Vertical
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6762066
 
 Larger
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6762043
 
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Re: OT: OMG...

2007-12-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/12/07, cbwaters, discombobulated, unleashed:

Most of the 
regular posters are quite easy to get along with.  True, some are more work 
to deal with but they generally have some redeeming qualities that make the 
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Re: Wares

2007-12-23 Thread Christine Aguila
Dave:

I like the guy in the BG, but I wonder if some of the bottom was cropped, 
say up to the $10 sign, would give it better focus.  Still I like the shot, 
and thanks for explaining Freo.  I had no idea what that meant.  Cheers, 
Christine




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 G'day All,

 Took this on the way back to the office from Fridays X-mas lunch (~170kb)

 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2320/2130147403_8107a959bf_o.jpg

 This is a very Freo scene. The only thing that could have made it more
 so is if the guy in the background was a dreadlocked hippie type :-)

 Cheers,

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Re: Test

2007-12-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/12/07, Paul Dunderdale, discombobulated, unleashed:

My last few posts haven't shown here.

Pity, as I have replied to Cotty and P.J. Alling, who must consider  
me very rude.

I'm not talking to you!



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Re: PESO 2007 - 52e, 52f - GDG

2007-12-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/22/2007 1:19:06 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Two photos from different  sets ...

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/52e.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/52f.htm

Comments and critique  always appreciated.

enjoy
Godfrey

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I remain  undecided about it. The second is sort of bland. 

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Re: PESO: Wares

2007-12-23 Thread Boris Liberman
Dave, it really works for me.

Boris

David Savage wrote:
 G'day All,
 
 Took this on the way back to the office from Fridays X-mas lunch (~170kb)
 
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2320/2130147403_8107a959bf_o.jpg
 
 This is a very Freo scene. The only thing that could have made it more
 so is if the guy in the background was a dreadlocked hippie type :-)
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: PESO - Orangutan

2007-12-23 Thread P. J. Alling
Very nicely done.  Good color and detail.  Film, you say?

Bruce Dayton wrote:
 Taken a few years ago at the Sacramento Zoo.

 Pentax MZ-S, FA 80-320/4.5-5.6, Monopod,
 Shot on Agfa RSX Slide film and scanned on Minolta Scan Duel II

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/sld_0443a.htm


   


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Re: PESO: Wares

2007-12-23 Thread Bruce Dayton
That sums up my thoughts as well.

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Sunday, December 23, 2007, 5:18:40 AM, you wrote:

GD I like this one! not sure what a Freo scene is, however.

GD Godfrey

GD On Dec 23, 2007 7:36 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G'day All,

 Took this on the way back to the office from Fridays X-mas lunch  
 (~170kb)

 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2320/2130147403_8107a959bf_o.jpg

 This is a very Freo scene. The only thing that could have made it more
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Re: PESO: another winter scene

2007-12-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/23/2007 7:22:05 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We drove up to  mid-Michigan for the holidays, our trip carefully  
calibrated to occur  24 hours before the recent/current snow, ice,  
etc. But we did have  light-to-heavy fog most of the way from KC to  
southern Michigan.   This is one shot I took along the  way...

http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p612914030/?photo=h37BEF3D5#935261141

stan

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Heheheheheheh.

Not  what I usually think of as a winter scene.

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Re: GESO: Frozen fog and spider webs

2007-12-23 Thread P. J. Alling
These are lovely, in a cold austere way.  It's an almost infrared look.  
I was going to pick a couple of favorites to  point out but I can't I 
like them all.

Toine wrote:
 This week we had the pleasure of lots of frozen fog. The spider webs
 look very fragile:

 http://www.repiuk.nl

   


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Re: OT: OMG...

2007-12-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/23/2007 2:34:15 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I think the suit is appropriate and I hope it's successful.


keith whaley

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Re: GESO: Frozen fog and spider webs

2007-12-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/21/2007 12:15:44 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This week we had the  pleasure of lots of frozen fog. The spider webs
look very  fragile:

http://www.repiuk.nl

-- 
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Oh,  beautiful! I love the trees in snow and fog. The spider webs are neat 
too. I  especially like the, er, third one (trees in fog), the grass in front 
with  the lone tree on the left. Lovely.

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Re: PESO: Holiday Season Saturation

2007-12-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/23/2007 5:18:28 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Disneyland  Jr.

Thats quite the crib

Dave

On Dec 22, 2007 10:44 PM,  Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Took Grace to the  mall today in the hopes of seeing Santa. No luck.
 You have to have an  appointment and the wait list is about six hours
 long. It's easier to  book dinner at the Four Seasons. Anyway, Santa
 resides in a three story  castle, which is carefully engineered to
 obstruct any view of him from  the outside, thereby guaranteeingpic
 sales to those who must have a shot  loved one and Mr. Claus. We
 settled for a pic of Mr. and Mrs. Claus'  crib. Lots of room to grow
 the enterprise there; That would be seen as a  good thing.http://
  photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6762296size=lgPaul
 No cameras in  the mall, BTW. Used my Panasonic TZ1, which is easy to
 hide.
  Happy Holiday,
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Re: PESO: Floating on Lilies

2007-12-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/22/2007 9:06:31 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The lighting is  rather unnatural looking.  The sun is going down in
the distance, but  the boat is front lit by a flash.  Natural lighting
would have come in  the opposite direction.  Almost works for
me but not quite.  I like  the sunset, but not the boat/lighting.

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RE: PESO 2007 - 52e, 52f - GDG

2007-12-23 Thread Bob W
 
  They have recently been participants in a pro-celebrity ballroom
  dancing competition. Aleesha Dixon won and is the nation's new
  sweetheart. Kate Whats'ername on the other hand dances like 
 a sack of
  seaweed.
 
 I see. What does the seaweed think of that?
 

Seaweed is a form of marine benthic algae, Godfrey. It can't think
well enough to have opinions on televised dance competitions. 

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Re: OT: OMG...

2007-12-23 Thread graywolf
I predict that we will be hearing Polyhead jokes here on the list for a long 
time.

You have stepped over the boundaries of acceptable behavior for this list.  One 
of the rights you are ignoring is the right to petition the courts for redress 
of injuries. Also freedom of speech does not include the right to slander or 
libel, to threaten, or to curse people, all of those are clearly actionable. It 
is merely the right to express your opinion without being arrested for it. AND, 
it goes both ways, others have the right to express their opinions also; for 
some reason the people who start yelling Freedom of speech never want to 
allow 
it to the other guy.

I have not published this link in a long while but I guess we can all use a 
reminder now and then:

http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html


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 On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:39:14 +0900
 David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Dec 23, 2007 8:23 PM, Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think the suit is appropriate and I hope it's successful.
 And I hope you die of a horrible cancer on your balls.
 Ahhh another internet tough guy...

 That was seriously uncalled for.
 
 Supporting frivolous lawsuits that restrict freedom of speech, no, you 
 deserve to die of nut cancer.
 
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Re: Peso Valyntine church cropped

2007-12-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/23/2007 8:47:53 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6763774

Squared the  church photo at 800 x  800.

Does this look at bit  better.

Dave


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Yes. It looks a LOT better. Now  the placement makes more sense. Actually I'd 
crop a tiny tad more, remove all  traces of the second window on the right. 
Good scene, I'd go back and play with  it again too.

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Re: PESO: Floating on Lilies

2007-12-23 Thread Bong Manayon
Hi Boris,

Thank you for your support ... will do.  I did some tweaking to
brighten up the foreground just to keep it from being to murky.

Bong :-)

On Dec 24, 2007 1:11 AM, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I totally support your resolution, Bong. As well you should post way
 more often. The more cultural diversity we have on this list, the better
 it is for everyone. This of course includes your view of the world and
 naturally your photographs!

 I wonder if you could apply some Fill Light like Adobe Lightroom
 allows to do... Slightly brighter shades would seem to improve the
 picture...

 Boris



 Bong Manayon wrote:
  Hello...
 
  Sort of made a new year's resolve - post more often!  And why wait for
  the new year? :-)
 
  http://www.bong.uni.cc/peso/2007-01.htm
 
  It's a sunrise shot on a nearby lake.  I was hoping to get a water
  foreground except it strewn with water lilies.  I had to fire the
  built-in flash of the DS for this one.
 
  Thanks for looking!
 
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Re: PESO: another winter scene

2007-12-23 Thread Bruce Dayton
COW!

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Sunday, December 23, 2007, 7:16:09 AM, you wrote:

SH We drove up to mid-Michigan for the holidays, our trip carefully  
SH calibrated to occur 24 hours before the recent/current snow, ice,
SH etc. But we did have light-to-heavy fog most of the way from KC to
SH southern Michigan.  This is one shot I took along the way...

SH http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p612914030/?photo=h37BEF3D5#935261141

SH stan




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Re: GESO: Frozen fog and spider webs

2007-12-23 Thread Toine
Boris
Navigation is an option. The gallery plays all the shots in random
order, all you need to do is watch :) Maybe I change it to sequential.
If you want to stop the autoplay sequence, click on any of the
thumbnails or any button to the left and right of the thunbnails.
After that navigate with the icons below the picture or simply with
the left and right arrow keys of your keyboard.

Yes fog can freeze ;). I have never seen frozen fog like this. I
didn't have enough time to see it all (and photograph it).

On Dec 23, 2007 6:08 PM, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Toine, I tried to open the link in MS IE 6.0... For me it is extremely
 difficult to navigate though I normally don't hmm complain about such
 things...

 Lovely shot of that web... Never thought that fog can actually freeze ;-).

 Boris




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  look very fragile:
 
  http://www.repiuk.nl
 


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Re: PESO Revision with Rick-Sized Verticals :-) and Thanks

2007-12-23 Thread Christine Aguila
Boris:  Truth be told, I don't know which version I like best (original tone 
or BW), but I was struck by the results of the BW suggestion  tried it  
went with it.  Amazing thing about digital, easily going back  forth and 
all.  However, the most important point of this exercise was learning about 
verticals  learning how to fix them in PS Elements, getting feed-back, et 
al.  I think once I get a photo-dedicated printer I'll make better decisions 
about how to revise my shots.  I see very few of my photos in print; I've 
used some online services, but a friend printed a few of my prints on his 
Epson 2400, and I soon realized I need/want a printer. Probably in the end, 
I'll go with something closer to my original tone.
Cheers, Christine




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Subject: Re: PESO Revision with Rick-Sized Verticals :-) and Thanks


 Christine, we used to have WESO (or whatever is the name) on the list.
 Meaning Workshop Every So Often. A list member would post a picture as
 ask folks to process it to their liking. I think I might have processed
 this one slightly different. For example, I find that a very slight warm
 toning (that I think used to appear on the original version) would do
 nicely here. The perceptual contrast between the snow and warm toning
 would really hmmm add atmosphere here...

 Like I said before - very pleasant frame to start with ;-).

 Boris


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 Thanks Everyone for the help with my first 2 PESOs  the warm welcome.

 Rick-Sized Vertical
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6762066

 Larger
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6762043

 Here's wishing everyone Happy Holidays.
 Cheers,
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Re: GESO: Frozen fog and spider webs

2007-12-23 Thread Toine
Thanks, It's all gone now and I want it back.

On Dec 23, 2007 6:35 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 These are lovely, in a cold austere way.  It's an almost infrared look.
 I was going to pick a couple of favorites to  point out but I can't I
 like them all.


 Toine wrote:
  This week we had the pleasure of lots of frozen fog. The spider webs
  look very fragile:
 
  http://www.repiuk.nl
 
 


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Re: PESO: another winter scene

2007-12-23 Thread pnstenquist
Like this one a lot. You might clone in a bit of snow in the foreground, so his 
hoof isn't resting on the bottom of the pic. But I think it works well as 
presented.  COLD! And we're getting more of it here in Michigan before 
Christmas.
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 COW!
 
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 Sunday, December 23, 2007, 7:16:09 AM, you wrote:
 
 SH We drove up to mid-Michigan for the holidays, our trip carefully  
 SH calibrated to occur 24 hours before the recent/current snow, ice,
 SH etc. But we did have light-to-heavy fog most of the way from KC to
 SH southern Michigan.  This is one shot I took along the way...
 
 SH http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p612914030/?photo=h37BEF3D5#935261141
 
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Re: PESO: Floating on Lilies

2007-12-23 Thread pnstenquist
The lighting works for me. It's the same equation as a backlit model 
illuminated by a reflector next to camera. I looked at this pic without reading 
the message, and I assumed the boat was lit by a source near camera, but it 
could easily have been a lamp on a dock or some other source. Like this one.
Paul
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 The lighting is  rather unnatural looking.  The sun is going down in
 the distance, but  the boat is front lit by a flash.  Natural lighting
 would have come in  the opposite direction.  Almost works for
 me but not quite.  I like  the sunset, but not the boat/lighting.
 
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Re: GESO: Frozen fog and spider webs

2007-12-23 Thread Toine
Thanks, Marnie.

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 This week we had the  pleasure of lots of frozen fog. The spider webs
 look very  fragile:

 http://www.repiuk.nl

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 Oh,  beautiful! I love the trees in snow and fog. The spider webs are neat
 too. I  especially like the, er, third one (trees in fog), the grass in front
 with  the lone tree on the left. Lovely.

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Re: PESO - Hopeful

2007-12-23 Thread Bruce Dayton
For the target audience (parents of the little league baseball player)
there is more than enough context for them.  Simply the uniform and
helmet do that.  This shot is one of about 10,000 taken during the
season of lots and lots of kids.  Trying to cover 44 teams in a very
short period of time requires shooting in less than ideal lighting
conditions.  I think it portrays the sentiment in the child as is.

I'll relook at the sleeve issue to see if it can be improved - most
likely can as these are all shot in raw and then converted fairly
quickly with very little manipulation.

Thanks for your comments.

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Sunday, December 23, 2007, 8:58:43 AM, you wrote:

BL Cotty, you're so right ;-).

BL Bruce, also the sleeve of his hmm shirt seems to be blown out white on
BL my screen. It grabs much of attention.

BL The shot itself is just perfect, but what Cotty said and that sleeve
BL highlight - they are hmmm imperfections.

BL Boris


BL Cotty wrote:
 On 21/12/07, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Little Leaguer up to bat hoping to get a hit.

 Pentax K10D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 300mm, monopod
 ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/4

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/giants_0002.htm
 
 That's a lovely pic mate, but you know what, it would help me to see
 what he was holding, to see the lad in context ;-)
 





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Re: OT: OMG...

2007-12-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Hey d**khead,
Both of my boys have had Testicular cancer in the last 5 years.
You're in my killfile, crawl back in your hole now.
Bob S.

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Re: PESO - Orangutan

2007-12-23 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thanks.  Yes, once there was only darkness and god divided the
darkness and call the light 'Film' and the dark 'Night' and it was
good.

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Sunday, December 23, 2007, 9:26:10 AM, you wrote:

PJA Very nicely done.  Good color and detail.  Film, you say?

PJA Bruce Dayton wrote:
 Taken a few years ago at the Sacramento Zoo.

 Pentax MZ-S, FA 80-320/4.5-5.6, Monopod,
 Shot on Agfa RSX Slide film and scanned on Minolta Scan Duel II

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Re: PESO: Floating on Lilies

2007-12-23 Thread Jack Davis
I really didn't question the boat's lighting. The gunwale and seat
angle could easily reflect what may be a lighter part of the sky. That,
in addition to possible PS mood effects, could easily account for the
foreground exposure.

Jack
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 Hi Boris,
 
 Thank you for your support ... will do.  I did some tweaking to
 brighten up the foreground just to keep it from being to murky.
 
 Bong :-)
 
 On Dec 24, 2007 1:11 AM, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 way
  more often. The more cultural diversity we have on this list, the
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  it is for everyone. This of course includes your view of the world
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  naturally your photographs!
 
  I wonder if you could apply some Fill Light like Adobe Lightroom
  allows to do... Slightly brighter shades would seem to improve the
  picture...
 
  Boris
 
 
 
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   Hello...
  
   Sort of made a new year's resolve - post more often!  And why
 wait for
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   http://www.bong.uni.cc/peso/2007-01.htm
  
   It's a sunrise shot on a nearby lake.  I was hoping to get a
 water
   foreground except it strewn with water lilies.  I had to fire the
   built-in flash of the DS for this one.
  
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Re: OT: OMG...

2007-12-23 Thread pnstenquist
Agreed. Another bit of idiocy from this child.
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