Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread AlunFoto
Patrick Genovese wrote:
 See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428

Um... Did they change the article? There's no mention of any SLR on
that page. Only compacts.

There's no mention of a Samsung SLR at any of the sites reporting from
CES either. For example: http://www.ces-show.com/digitalcameras/

Nor is there any SLR in the press releases from Samsung:
http://www.samsungtechwin.com/


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Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list

2008-01-10 Thread mike wilson
Poor old nincompoop, thinks it's a Cadillac.

Except it's usually not nincompoop.
 
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 Date: 2008/01/09 Wed PM 11:47:18 GMT
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 Subject: Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list
 
 That's not what I know it as.Goes like POOR OLD and so forth.
  -- Original message --
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  On 09/01/08, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
  
  Incidentally, am I alone in not knowing the rude Pontiac thing?
  
  Pull Out Naughty Thing In A Car
  
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Re:PESO: Old Four Eyes

2008-01-10 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/01/09 Wed PM 08:56:17 GMT
 To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO: Old Four Eyes
 
 On 09/01/08, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Opened it up, but had to close it pretty quick, but, from the 1/10 of
 a second of what i saw looked nice.
 
 I'll have to memory bank the title for future reference. Sorry:-(
 
 I think we can determine an arachnoid presence here ;-)

Do you mean arachnophobe?  Or does Dave really have eight eyes and legs, poison 
fangs and can he extrude silk?  If so, I have a cunning plan...


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Re: PESO: Old Four Eyes

2008-01-10 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Alastair Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I have several other shots taken the same afternoon here
 http://www.pbase.com/kiwibiologist/te_horo_salticid.  Arachnophobes
 aside, is there a favourite amongst these or did I get the pick right
 the first time (http://www.pbase.com/kiwibiologist/image/91472265)?

I prefer more than one of the others to the one you first showed.  8-))


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Re: Disposable diaper OT

2008-01-10 Thread Polyhead
highside at putnam park indiana left you with a pretty well broken bladder? .

 Motorcyclist without a helmet?  ;-)
 
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  Unless you buy disposable diapers for some nefarious reasons possibly
  related to your afore-implied doing to bicycles, I think the
  contents of all disposable diapers are ultimately always going to be
  the same ... With that the case, I treat any used disposable diaper
  with great respect and, preferably, kept to a good distance.
  .
 
  This calls to mind the time decades ago when my wife changed the baby's (old
  fashioned cloth) diaper in the parking lot of the Golden Gate Bridge view
  area,  She handed me the very used diaper and I put it on the roof rack of
  our VW Van. Of course, I forgot about until were were a few miles up HWY
  101. I pulled over and , of course, it was gone. I've always wondered what
  it hit that day...
 
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Re: Question about canvas (reposted)

2008-01-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
The canvas I've used on my R2400 came from Premier Art. It's made in  
Switzerland. It's a 13 inch by 20 foot roll, and it's product number  
is SP91220. It was distributed by Epson for use with the 2200  
printer, and it works fine on the R2400 as well. I think I used the  
premium luster ICC when printing.
Paul
On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've printed on a coated canvas meant for ink jet printing. It  
 worked well. I can't remember the name of the provider, but I'll  
 try to find it when I get home.
 Paul
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 Sorry Igor,

 I have the R2400 but I've never considered using it to print on  
 Canvas.

 You might go to the Printers  Printing forum on DPReview
 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1003
 or Digital Darkroom forum on Photo.net
 http://photo.net/bboard/forum?topic_id=1701
 and ask there.

 Godfrey

 On Jan 9, 2008, at 2:52 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


 Hi all,

 I asked this some time ago, but have not received any responses.
 so, I apologize for reposting this - I'd give it one more try.

 1. For all printer users: what canvas/canvas paper do you use
 (roll or sheet)?
 2. What parameters do they differ by (except for the size)?
 I.e. what should I look for when comparing different brand
 products, and
 what is the [practical] difference between canvas and canvas  
 paper?

 3. for Epson R2400 printer users:
 a) Is it capable of printing well on canvas?
 b) Same question about metallic paper (such as Kodak Endura  
 Metallic)?


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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread jim
hmmm. it appears that they have changed the artical.
wounder why?

James



On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:50:03 +0100, AlunFoto wrote:

Patrick Genovese wrote:
 See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428

Um... Did they change the article? There's no mention of any SLR on
that page. Only compacts.

There's no mention of a Samsung SLR at any of the sites reporting from
CES either. For example: http://www.ces-show.com/digitalcameras/

Nor is there any SLR in the press releases from Samsung:
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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Timber
http://img.index.hu/imgfrm/4/4/9/2/BIG_0003754492.jpg

AlunFoto wrote:
 Patrick Genovese wrote:
   
 See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428
 

 Um... Did they change the article? There's no mention of any SLR on
 that page. Only compacts.

 There's no mention of a Samsung SLR at any of the sites reporting from
 CES either. For example: http://www.ces-show.com/digitalcameras/

 Nor is there any SLR in the press releases from Samsung:
 http://www.samsungtechwin.com/


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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
That's an easy one. Pentax saw it. Samsung's PR people apparently  
violated the embargo date.
Paul
On Jan 10, 2008, at 6:46 AM, jim wrote:

 hmmm. it appears that they have changed the artical.
 wounder why?

 James



 On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:50:03 +0100, AlunFoto wrote:

 Patrick Genovese wrote:
 See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428

 Um... Did they change the article? There's no mention of any SLR on
 that page. Only compacts.

 There's no mention of a Samsung SLR at any of the sites reporting  
 from
 CES either. For example: http://www.ces-show.com/digitalcameras/

 Nor is there any SLR in the press releases from Samsung:
 http://www.samsungtechwin.com/






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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread David Savage
Frankly, the fact that we're seeing leaked info from Samsung,  not
from Pentax, says to me that the Pentax PR people haven't learnt a
damn thing from the success of the K10D pre announcement.

Cheers,

Dave

On Jan 10, 2008 9:16 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That's an easy one. Pentax saw it. Samsung's PR people apparently
 violated the embargo date.
 Paul

 On Jan 10, 2008, at 6:46 AM, jim wrote:

  hmmm. it appears that they have changed the artical.
  wounder why?
 
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Re: Question about canvas (reposted)

2008-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
My God, I actually have a follower.  (Why did it have to be Brooks??)

David J Brooks wrote:
 On Jan 9, 2008 6:18 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 You never got a response from me because I don't use canvas paper.
 

 You never heard from me, cause Peter does not use canvas.

 Dave
   
 Igor Roshchin wrote:
 
 Hi all,

 I asked this some time ago, but have not received any responses.
 so, I apologize for reposting this - I'd give it one more try.

 1. For all printer users: what canvas/canvas paper do you use
 (roll or sheet)?
 2. What parameters do they differ by (except for the size)?
 I.e. what should I look for when comparing different brand products, and
 what is the [practical] difference between canvas and canvas paper?

 3. for Epson R2400 printer users:
 a) Is it capable of printing well on canvas?
 b) Same question about metallic paper (such as Kodak Endura Metallic)?

 Thank you,

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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
Yes, they changed the article.  I think someone broke the embargo.

AlunFoto wrote:
 Patrick Genovese wrote:
   
 See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428
 

 Um... Did they change the article? There's no mention of any SLR on
 that page. Only compacts.

 There's no mention of a Samsung SLR at any of the sites reporting from
 CES either. For example: http://www.ces-show.com/digitalcameras/

 Nor is there any SLR in the press releases from Samsung:
 http://www.samsungtechwin.com/


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Re: Pentax Gallery Screensaver.

2008-01-10 Thread Doug Franklin
David J Brooks wrote:

 I have only four on there and I';m trying to help, but they
 don't like me.:-0

Yeah, I realized when I was responding to their question about the 
screensaver that I haven't even submitted any since last spring or 
summer.  I guess I ought to go through what I've shot this year to see 
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No Content

2008-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
Like most other posts, (this is just a test though).

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Re: PESO: Old Four Eyes

2008-01-10 Thread Bob Sullivan
Alastair,
I like 146 best, and the 150's are good too.
Sometimes the pose is better but DOF is worse.
Keep after them.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Jan 10, 2008 12:19 AM, Alastair Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for the comments and sorry to the arachnophobes - I will put a
 warning on the next spider pic I show.
 The background is a little distracting and since it didn't often pause
 on top of the stones which would have allowed blurred background, I
 had to live with this. Forgot to say that this is a very small spider
 - 3-4mm body width.  DOF is an issue here F22 is sometimes not enough
 though of course going to F27 would worsen the background distraction.

 I have several other shots taken the same afternoon here
 http://www.pbase.com/kiwibiologist/te_horo_salticid.  Arachnophobes
 aside, is there a favourite amongst these or did I get the pick right
 the first time (http://www.pbase.com/kiwibiologist/image/91472265)?

 In answer to Igor - yes the -1.5 EV for the flash is to keep a more
 natural look and avoid overblown highlights etc.  As to the to the
 +2EV on the body - I do find that the camera and flash combo tends to
 underexpose - quite badly sometimes, and I need to pump this up to
 avoid having to do it PP which tends to cause bad artifacts including
 the notorious banding issues in dark subjects.  Even so I still had to
 add another 1.33 EV in lightroom!  In fact, this is the biggest
 complaint I have with the system - chronic underexposure with the
 flash and K10D.

 Alastair


 On Jan 9, 2008 11:38 PM, Alastair Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://www.pbase.com/image/91434888. Well 8 actually but 4 big ones -
  nice eyelashes too.
 
  An afternoon potter on one of the local beaches turned up this little 
  fellow.
  K10D FA100/2.8 AF540FGZ F22 125th ISO100 +2EV Flash EV -1.5 Handheld
  These types of shots are my typical fare but mostly I have posted
  PESO's that are a little different and perhaps less successful.
  I am interested what people think of these macro nature shots. Not
  many on the list post those types of image it seems.
 
  Comments  Critiques welcome
 
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Re: Pentax Gallery Screensaver.

2008-01-10 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 10, 2008 8:53 AM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There, there.. I assure you it's nothing personal. :-(

Thanks, that, helps, a, bit.,

Dave

 Jack

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  On Jan 9, 2008 11:00 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   It should keep those three images mighty busy 'til you give them
  some
   help. ;-))
 
  I have only four on there and I';m trying to help, but they don't
  like me.:-0
 
  Dave
  
   Jack
  
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 Anyone opted in on the Pentax Photo Gallery Screensaver?
   
I did, but it's only three photos they've accepted, anyway. :-)
   
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Re: No Content

2008-01-10 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/01/10 Thu PM 01:40:46 GMT
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 Like most other posts, (this is just a test though).

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Re: Pentax Gallery Screensaver.

2008-01-10 Thread Jack Davis
There, there.. I assure you it's nothing personal. [-(

Jack
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  It should keep those three images mighty busy 'til you give them
 some
  help. ;-))
 
 I have only four on there and I';m trying to help, but they don't
 like me.:-0
 
 Dave
 
  Jack
 
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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread pnstenquist
There was an earlier Pentax leak. I'm sure we'll hear a lot more soon.
Paul
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 Frankly, the fact that we're seeing leaked info from Samsung,  not
 from Pentax, says to me that the Pentax PR people haven't learnt a
 damn thing from the success of the K10D pre announcement.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dave
 
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  That's an easy one. Pentax saw it. Samsung's PR people apparently
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  On Jan 10, 2008, at 6:46 AM, jim wrote:
 
   hmmm. it appears that they have changed the artical.
   wounder why?
  
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Re: K10D flash question

2008-01-10 Thread Thibouille
Yes with firmware updates and with 2 limitations:
* You can only chose channel nr 1
* No HSS in wireless mode

On Jan 10, 2008 5:02 AM, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does the K10D have the wireless flash capability with the onboard
 flash that the *istD has?  I seem to remember people saying when it
 first came out that it was missing and you needed to mount an AF360 or
 540 to go wireless.  People thought that a firmware upgrade might
 bring it back.  Did that ever happen?

 Thanks,

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Re: PESO: Hoofacure

2008-01-10 Thread wendy beard
Quite ingenious :-)

I do my dogs' nails in a similar way. Handheld dremel with rotary
drum. Grinds down the tips. I was always nicking the quick on at least
one of the nails when I used nail clippers. Can be pretty messy. Worst
I get now is nail dust up my arm.

Wendy

On Jan 5, 2008 3:41 PM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 He said it was an invention of his. The kid was very knowledgable and
 seemed to know a lot about horses and blacksmithing, or farriering :-)

 Walt


 On 1/5/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I';ll have to shoe this to our farrier. He just uses files.
 
  Dave
 
  On Jan 5, 2008 12:47 PM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Shot some pics of a blacksmith shoeing a horse yesterday. It was
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Re: No Content

2008-01-10 Thread Scott Loveless
P. J. Alling wrote:
 Like most other posts, (this is just a test though).
 
Don't sell yourself short, Peter.  This could very well be the start of 
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Re: Manual for D-BG1 grip for *ist D?

2008-01-10 Thread Joe Wilensky
Thanks -- that's good to know; I wouldn't have thought of it.

Joe



On Jan 9, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

 well, there is one thing to be aware of - if the dials are in between
 click detents, then the main dials can have problems.  Basically make
 sure the the dials on both the body and grip click into place as you
 use them.  Sometimes it seems like one of the dials is unresponsive -
 it is normally because the opposite one (grip or body) is not clicked
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PDML book

2008-01-10 Thread mike wilson
I've been looking for online printing services and the only one that is at 
least reasonable (and not slightly scary - anyone want a silk covered book 
printed in China?) seems to be Lulu.  50page softback ~$16, hardback ~$20.  
Both about 8.25 x 11 and with an unkown postage cost and assuming a run of 50.

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Re: No Content

2008-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
Scott Loveless wrote:
 P. J. Alling wrote:
   
 Like most other posts, (this is just a test though).

 
 Don't sell yourself short, Peter.  This could very well be the start of 
 the longest thread in PDML history.

   
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Re: PESO: Hoofacure

2008-01-10 Thread Jack Davis
Wendy, you may not really need this mental image, but I use a dremel,
with a sanding disk, on my toenails. |-/

Jack
--- wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Quite ingenious :-)
 
 I do my dogs' nails in a similar way. Handheld dremel with rotary
 drum. Grinds down the tips. I was always nicking the quick on at
 least
 one of the nails when I used nail clippers. Can be pretty messy.
 Worst
 I get now is nail dust up my arm.
 
 Wendy
 
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  He said it was an invention of his. The kid was very knowledgable
 and
  seemed to know a lot about horses and blacksmithing, or farriering
 :-)
 
  Walt
 
 
  On 1/5/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I';ll have to shoe this to our farrier. He just uses files.
  
   Dave
  
   On Jan 5, 2008 12:47 PM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Shot some pics of a blacksmith shoeing a horse yesterday. It
 was
facinating talking to this youngster as he really know his
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Walt
   
   

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Re: Question about canvas (reposted)

2008-01-10 Thread Igor Roshchin

Thanks a lot to everybody for responding with a lot of helpful
information!

... despite Dave not using Peter not using canvas... 
(or something like that) :-)


If somebody is interested, let me share my experience with these
non-traditional media.
I actually had a few prints printed on canvas and on watercolor paper.
I liked canvas better. With a proper matting (or stretched -- one has to
remember leaving plenty of margin) and framing 
(of a suitable subject photo) you get an effect of a painting.

I had it done twice, once by a pro-printing lab near me, in San Diego
(chromedigital.com), and the other time by a lab in Russia.
The canvas differed considerably. One of them had a coarser grain.

(Also, I learned about this protective coating that is presumably
good even for pigment ink: PremierArt Print Shield.)

Recently I tried to print on Kodak Endura Metallic Paper which is
according to Kodak suitable for both optical and digital printing.
http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/papers/enduraMetallic/main.jhtml
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2dmfwf
I like the effect produced by some selected photos.
I've done it at mpix.com, but I see that adoramapix.com also can do it.
Mpix.com e-mail a suitable colorspace profile for proofing in Photoshop
upong request. 

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Re: No Content

2008-01-10 Thread Steve Desjardins
I'll do my part.

I'd like to get a bracket for the K10D that will hold a lit torch.  I
think electronic flashes tend to wash out the highlights.

 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 11:12 AM 
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Re: Pentax Gallery Screensaver.

2008-01-10 Thread graywolf
You guys are all so excited about this Pentax Gallery thing, 
they must pay really well.

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Paul Stenquist wrote:
 I heard from them a few weeks ago as well but didn't respond. I first  
 replied today. I've been too busy to think about it.
 Paul
 On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:35 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
 
 I received an email several weeks ago advising me of their  
 intention to
 produce a Pentax Gallery Screensaver  was asked if I'd let them  
 use some of
 my images in the intro. I believe I saw 3 of my images in the  
 Screensaver
 intro I saw last night - which no longer appears on my Pentax Photo  
 Gallery
 artist page.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

 - Original Message -
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 Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Screensaver.


 Me to. I just did not want to be first

 Dave

 On Jan 9, 2008 4:42 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah..me too.

 Jack

 --- Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone opted in on the Pentax Photo Gallery Screensaver?
 Yep.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

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 Subject: Pentax Gallery Screensaver.


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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 09:51:44AM -0500, Steve Desjardins wrote:
 Assuming it's an accidental leak.  ;-)
 
 BTW, I have an iPod touch (the iPhone sans the phone part) and it has a
 3.5-inch (diagonal) screen with 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163
 pixels per inch.  It's really stunning,  especially as a digital photo
 wallet.  This is what I want on a camera.

That was the one thing I felt was a bit disappointing about the iTouch;
as a digital photo wallet, it wasn't as good as the high-end HP or Dell
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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 10, 2008 9:44 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There was an earlier Pentax leak.

So its not weather proof then.

Dave
 Paul

  -- Original message --
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  Frankly, the fact that we're seeing leaked info from Samsung,  not
  from Pentax, says to me that the Pentax PR people haven't learnt a
  damn thing from the success of the K10D pre announcement.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Dave
 
  On Jan 10, 2008 9:16 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   That's an easy one. Pentax saw it. Samsung's PR people apparently
   violated the embargo date.
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hmmm. it appears that they have changed the artical.
wounder why?
   
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Re: PDML book

2008-01-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/01/08, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

I've been looking for online printing services and the only one that is
at least reasonable (and not slightly scary - anyone want a silk covered
book printed in China?) seems to be Lulu.  50page softback ~$16,
hardback ~$20.  Both about 8.25 x 11 and with an unkown postage cost
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Re: PESO: Hoofacure

2008-01-10 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 10, 2008 11:18 AM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wendy, you may not really need this mental image, but I use a dremel,
 with a sanding disk, on my toenails. |-/

Nobody uses duck tape anymore??

Dave

 Jack

 --- wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Quite ingenious :-)
 
  I do my dogs' nails in a similar way. Handheld dremel with rotary
  drum. Grinds down the tips. I was always nicking the quick on at
  least
  one of the nails when I used nail clippers. Can be pretty messy.
  Worst
  I get now is nail dust up my arm.
 
  Wendy
 
  On Jan 5, 2008 3:41 PM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   He said it was an invention of his. The kid was very knowledgable
  and
   seemed to know a lot about horses and blacksmithing, or farriering
  :-)
  
   Walt
  
  
   On 1/5/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I';ll have to shoe this to our farrier. He just uses files.
   
Dave
   
On Jan 5, 2008 12:47 PM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 Shot some pics of a blacksmith shoeing a horse yesterday. It
  was
 facinating talking to this youngster as he really know his
  stuff.

 Walt


 
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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/01/08, graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed:

OTOH, Apple does know how to promote their stuff. How many 
of you knew that you could be a Pocket PC with a built in 
cel-phone for several years before Apple came out with one?

I purposely did not want anything with PocketPC written on it. I used
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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/01/08, Steve Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed:

BTW, I have an iPod touch (the iPhone sans the phone part) and it has a
3.5-inch (diagonal) screen with 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163
pixels per inch.  It's really stunning,  especially as a digital photo
wallet.  This is what I want on a camera.

It's nice isn't it (I have the iPhone). I convert movies into MP4's and
bung them on - I have most of The Young Ones on there and Transformers
(great movie) as well as my showreel and bits and pieces I've shot. But
the best part is having zillions of photos on there, easily accessible.

But I wouldn't want it on the back of a camera - I'm going retro now -
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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread graywolf
What is the difference between that and my old Toshiba e755? 
Besides a smaller screen, the apple name, and a working 
battery*, I mean.

*Of course it does take awhile for a Li-Ion battery to die 
of old age, about, what, 5-6 years in this case? Apple sure 
is at the forefront of technology aren't they.

OTOH, Apple does know how to promote their stuff. How many 
of you knew that you could be a Pocket PC with a built in 
cel-phone for several years before Apple came out with one?



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 Assuming it's an accidental leak.  ;-)
 
 BTW, I have an iPod touch (the iPhone sans the phone part) and it has a
 3.5-inch (diagonal) screen with 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163
 pixels per inch.  It's really stunning,  especially as a digital photo
 wallet.  This is what I want on a camera.
 
 David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 7:59 AM 
 Frankly, the fact that we're seeing leaked info from Samsung,  not
 from Pentax, says to me that the Pentax PR people haven't learnt a
 damn thing from the success of the K10D pre announcement.
 
 Cheers,
 
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 On Jan 10, 2008 9:16 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 That's an easy one. Pentax saw it. Samsung's PR people apparently
 violated the embargo date.
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 wounder why?

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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread William Robb

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From: David J Brooks
Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?



 There was an earlier Pentax leak.

 So its not weather proof then.

We know stuff leaks out, whether anything actually leaks in is anyone's 
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Re: PDML book

2008-01-10 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 10, 2008 10:58 AM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Both about 8.25 x 11 and with an unkown postage cost and assuming a run of 
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South Bolton?

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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Adam Maas
The big deal on the touch/iPhone isn't the
PocketPC/Palm/Blackberry-type functionality(Which is very common),
it's the iPod side of things. The iPhone is hands-down the best
MP3-playing phone available, and also offers a lot more storage than
most SmartPhones. If the iPhone had an HDD, I'd be interested in one,
as it is, it's a downgrade as an MP3 player from my 60GB iPod.

-Adam

On 1/10/08, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What is the difference between that and my old Toshiba e755?
 Besides a smaller screen, the apple name, and a working
 battery*, I mean.

 *Of course it does take awhile for a Li-Ion battery to die
 of old age, about, what, 5-6 years in this case? Apple sure
 is at the forefront of technology aren't they.

 OTOH, Apple does know how to promote their stuff. How many
 of you knew that you could be a Pocket PC with a built in
 cel-phone for several years before Apple came out with one?



 Graywolf (Tom Rittenhouse)
 Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com
 Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/
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 Steve Desjardins wrote:
  Assuming it's an accidental leak.  ;-)
 
  BTW, I have an iPod touch (the iPhone sans the phone part) and it has a
  3.5-inch (diagonal) screen with 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163
  pixels per inch.  It's really stunning,  especially as a digital photo
  wallet.  This is what I want on a camera.
 
  David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 7:59 AM 
  Frankly, the fact that we're seeing leaked info from Samsung,  not
  from Pentax, says to me that the Pentax PR people haven't learnt a
  damn thing from the success of the K10D pre announcement.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Dave
 
  On Jan 10, 2008 9:16 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  That's an easy one. Pentax saw it. Samsung's PR people apparently
  violated the embargo date.
  Paul
 
  On Jan 10, 2008, at 6:46 AM, jim wrote:
 
  hmmm. it appears that they have changed the artical.
  wounder why?
 
  James
 

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Re: Low light prime

2008-01-10 Thread Adam Maas
Tamron states that this lens is only available in Canon, Nikon and
Sony mounts. Vistek is incorrect.

-Adam

On 1/10/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Received an email from Vistek here in Toronto, and they are telling me
 that the Tamron 17-50 f2.8 is available and special order, go figure.

 Two to three week delivery.

 Some places say no pentax mount, some are.

 I'm confused, but still keeping the 28-75 order.

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Re: Low light prime

2008-01-10 Thread David J Brooks
Received an email from Vistek here in Toronto, and they are telling me
that the Tamron 17-50 f2.8 is available and special order, go figure.

Two to three week delivery.

Some places say no pentax mount, some are.

I'm confused, but still keeping the 28-75 order.

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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Steve Desjardins
Dell no longer makes the Axoim and HP's current PDAs have a smaller
screen, 240x320.  The bigger ones were nice but didn't sell well enough.
 A bigger screen on the iPod would make it too big.

 John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 12:11 PM 
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 09:51:44AM -0500, Steve Desjardins wrote:
 Assuming it's an accidental leak.  ;-)
 
 BTW, I have an iPod touch (the iPhone sans the phone part) and it has
a
 3.5-inch (diagonal) screen with 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163
 pixels per inch.  It's really stunning,  especially as a digital
photo
 wallet.  This is what I want on a camera.

That was the one thing I felt was a bit disappointing about the
iTouch;
as a digital photo wallet, it wasn't as good as the high-end HP or
Dell
Pocket PCs which had a full VGA-resolution screen (640x480).


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Re: PESO: Old Four Eyes

2008-01-10 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/9/2008 10:22:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
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I have several other shots taken the same  afternoon here
http://www.pbase.com/kiwibiologist/te_horo_salticid.   Arachnophobes
aside, is there a favourite amongst these or did I get the pick  right
the first time  (http://www.pbase.com/kiwibiologist/image/91472265)?

Alastair

I  also prefer some to the first one you showed. #1 is very nice. Like the 
way he  is perched on stone, stone, and leaf.

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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Steve Desjardins
Did the Toshiba have a touch screen?  I read an old web review and  it
didn't seem that way.

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 graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 12:43 PM 
What is the difference between that and my old Toshiba e755? 
Besides a smaller screen, the apple name, and a working 
battery*, I mean.

*Of course it does take awhile for a Li-Ion battery to die 
of old age, about, what, 5-6 years in this case? Apple sure 
is at the forefront of technology aren't they.

OTOH, Apple does know how to promote their stuff. How many 
of you knew that you could be a Pocket PC with a built in 
cel-phone for several years before Apple came out with one?



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Steve Desjardins wrote:
 Assuming it's an accidental leak.  ;-)
 
 BTW, I have an iPod touch (the iPhone sans the phone part) and it has
a
 3.5-inch (diagonal) screen with 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163
 pixels per inch.  It's really stunning,  especially as a digital
photo
 wallet.  This is what I want on a camera.
 
 David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 7:59 AM 
 Frankly, the fact that we're seeing leaked info from Samsung,  not
 from Pentax, says to me that the Pentax PR people haven't learnt a
 damn thing from the success of the K10D pre announcement.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dave
 
 On Jan 10, 2008 9:16 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 That's an easy one. Pentax saw it. Samsung's PR people apparently
 violated the embargo date.
 Paul

 On Jan 10, 2008, at 6:46 AM, jim wrote:

 hmmm. it appears that they have changed the artical.
 wounder why?

 James
 

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Re: K10D flash question

2008-01-10 Thread Gonz
Thanks everyone who responded.  I hope (and suspect) that the K20D
will also be so enabled.

On 1/10/08, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes with firmware updates and with 2 limitations:
 * You can only chose channel nr 1
 * No HSS in wireless mode

 On Jan 10, 2008 5:02 AM, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Does the K10D have the wireless flash capability with the onboard
  flash that the *istD has?  I seem to remember people saying when it
  first came out that it was missing and you needed to mount an AF360 or
  540 to go wireless.  People thought that a firmware upgrade might
  bring it back.  Did that ever happen?
 
  Thanks,
 
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Re: Low light prime

2008-01-10 Thread David J Brooks
Well i wondered that. I mentioned Pentax in the header and twice in
the body of the email.



On Jan 10, 2008 1:14 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tamron states that this lens is only available in Canon, Nikon and
 Sony mounts. Vistek is incorrect.

 -Adam


 On 1/10/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Received an email from Vistek here in Toronto, and they are telling me
  that the Tamron 17-50 f2.8 is available and special order, go figure.
 
  Two to three week delivery.
 
  Some places say no pentax mount, some are.
 
  I'm confused, but still keeping the 28-75 order.
 
  Dave
 

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Re: PDML book

2008-01-10 Thread mike wilson
I think that was a Lulu.  As it were.
 
 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/01/10 Thu PM 05:40:11 GMT
 To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PDML book
 
 On 10/01/08, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 I've been looking for online printing services and the only one that is
 at least reasonable (and not slightly scary - anyone want a silk covered
 book printed in China?) seems to be Lulu.  50page softback ~$16,
 hardback ~$20.  Both about 8.25 x 11 and with an unkown postage cost
 and assuming a run of 50.
 
 Is there anywhere else I should be looking?
 
 I was mightily impressed with Juan Buhler's book - the quality of
 reproduction is excellent. Juan?
 
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Re: No Content

2008-01-10 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 I'll do my part.
 
 I'd like to get a bracket for the K10D that will hold a lit torch.  I
 think electronic flashes tend to wash out the highlights.

What about one of those head torches?

 
  P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 11:12 AM 
 Scott Loveless wrote:
  P. J. Alling wrote:

  Like most other posts, (this is just a test though).
 
  
  Don't sell yourself short, Peter.  This could very well be the start
 of 
  the longest thread in PDML history.
 

 I fear you might be right...
 
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Re: PDML book

2008-01-10 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/01/10 Thu PM 05:37:42 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PDML book
 
 On Jan 10, 2008 10:58 AM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've been looking for online printing services and the only one that is at 
  least reasonable (and not slightly scary - anyone want a silk covered book 
  printed in China?) seems to be Lulu.  50page softback ~$16, hardback ~$20.  
  Both about 8.25 x 11 and with an unkown postage cost and assuming a run of 
  50.
 
  Is there anywhere else I should be looking?
 
 South Bolton?

Lancashire is famous for cheese, cotton clothing and funny accents, not 
internet printing. 


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Re: No Content

2008-01-10 Thread mike wilson

 
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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/01/08, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:

If the iPhone had an HDD, I'd be interested in one,
as it is, it's a downgrade as an MP3 player from my 60GB iPod.

I gather manufacturers are ceasing production of small HDDs - I expect
because flash memory is now reaching decent capacities? I grimace every
time I see my son chuck his 80GB video iPod about. Those little read/
write arms

8GB on my iPhone is bad. I want 32 at least (flash).

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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 10, 2008, at 9:11 AM, John Francis wrote:

 BTW, I have an iPod touch (the iPhone sans the phone part) and it  
 has a
 3.5-inch (diagonal) screen with 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163
 pixels per inch.  It's really stunning,  especially as a digital  
 photo
 wallet.  This is what I want on a camera.

 That was the one thing I felt was a bit disappointing about the  
 iTouch;
 as a digital photo wallet, it wasn't as good as the high-end HP or  
 Dell
 Pocket PCs which had a full VGA-resolution screen (640x480).

They might not be quite as big, but comparing them the iPod Touch and  
iPhone screens seem to present photos more nicely than the others  
I've seen. I think Apple's JPEG rendering and scaling engine is much  
more sophisticated.

Godfrey

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Re: new regulations on lithium batteries on aircrafts

2008-01-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I just looked at my Apple PowerBook G4 battery markings ... there are  
no numbers, only that it is 10.4V nominal and Li-Ion chemistry. The  
specifications state that it is 50 watt-hours capacity, so not an  
issue for these regulations at all ... Probably have to have a sheet,  
as Cotty suggested, with all the batteries and watt-hour ratings  
handy as part of your travel papers in case of any issues.

Godfrey

On Jan 10, 2008, at 8:37 AM, Pasvorn Boonmark wrote:

 I am wondering how the TSA employee will actually look at the  
 number on
 the batteries and calculate the watt-hour.

 Come to think of it, it seems that this is more likely to impact  
 laptop
 batteries than the cameras'.

 I probably print out sticker with watt-hour capacity and stick it  
 to my
 batteries.


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Re: No Content

2008-01-10 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 10, 2008 2:43 PM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2008/01/10 Thu PM 04:14:40 GMT
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Give us a sign!

He has given us a sign! He has brought us to the PDML!

I didn't bring you here! You just followed me!

Oh, it's still a good sign by any standard.

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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Adam Maas
Outside of Apple and Archos, there's very little in the way of
HDD-based small media players. But it's currently the only way to get
capacities over about 16GB economically. Flash just isn't cheap enough
or small enough for the higher capacities. Note the iPod classic is
currently a 80GB or 160GB, the latter approaching the max capacity of
the larger 2.5 Laptop drives, but using a 1.8 drive instead.

-Adam

On 1/10/08, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/01/08, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:

 If the iPhone had an HDD, I'd be interested in one,
 as it is, it's a downgrade as an MP3 player from my 60GB iPod.

 I gather manufacturers are ceasing production of small HDDs - I expect
 because flash memory is now reaching decent capacities? I grimace every
 time I see my son chuck his 80GB video iPod about. Those little read/
 write arms

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Digital 1997

2008-01-10 Thread David J Brooks
I'm going through some old diaries lately. I'm doing a sort of point
form list of the work i have done the past 34 years in the survey
business, for what i hope to be, a memoir book. Don't hold your
breath, its taken me 5 years just to get this far:-)

Oct 1997, i purchased a Kodak DC25 digital camera. Held 8 pictures on
board and could take a 2 Meg
CF card for an additional 20 or so pictures. I forget the actual
number, but it was not much.

The camera took 640 x 480 pictures and used some Kodak software to
process from their formate to jpg.

The camera was $419 plus taxes and the card was $280 plus taxes. So,
for $700 plus taxes, what do we get these day. Some pretty decent
gear, i would say.

Just thought that was amusing to say the least.

Dave

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Re: PDML book

2008-01-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/01/08, Jaume Lahuerta, discombobulated, unleashed:

I bought the Lulu edition

sorry guys I'm being totally thick herewhat's a Lulu?

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Re: PDML book

2008-01-10 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
I bought the Lulu edition of Juan's book and well, it is OK for the price, but 
Juan's pictures deserves some better printing.
But this was just a cheap version of the real thing, better edited.
For the second book he used something called 'blurb'. Fot the price I suspect 
that it is a fine edition too.
Here are the details:
http://jbuhler.com/buy/book.html


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De: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Enviado: jueves, 10 de enero, 2008 20:34:06
Asunto: Re: PDML book

I think that was a Lulu.  As it were.
 
 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/01/10 Thu PM 05:40:11 GMT
 To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PDML book
 
 On 10/01/08, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 I've been looking for online printing services and the only one that
 is
 at least reasonable (and not slightly scary - anyone want a silk
 covered
 book printed in China?) seems to be Lulu.  50page softback ~$16,
 hardback ~$20.  Both about 8.25 x 11 and with an unkown postage
 cost
 and assuming a run of 50.
 
 Is there anywhere else I should be looking?
 
 I was mightily impressed with Juan Buhler's book - the quality of
 reproduction is excellent. Juan?
 
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Re: PDML book

2008-01-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/01/08, Jaume Lahuerta, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Juan's book and well, it is OK for the price, but Juan's pictures
deserves some better printing.

I am surprised, I found the printing to be quite good?

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Re: No Content

2008-01-10 Thread Steve Desjardins
Head torches?  I mean the fire variety.

 mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 2:42 PM 

 
 From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/01/10 Thu PM 05:04:06 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: No Content
 
 I'll do my part.
 
 I'd like to get a bracket for the K10D that will hold a lit torch. 
I
 think electronic flashes tend to wash out the highlights.

What about one of those head torches?

 
  P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 11:12 AM 
 Scott Loveless wrote:
  P. J. Alling wrote:

  Like most other posts, (this is just a test though).
 
  
  Don't sell yourself short, Peter.  This could very well be the
start
 of 
  the longest thread in PDML history.
 

 I fear you might be right...
 
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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Steve Desjardins
I'm OK with 8 GB for now.  I just pick what I want and sync with my
laptop.I know folks that do carry their whole collection around, but
I go through phases and can get by with a mere several hundred songs at
a time.  

I like the iPod touch.  The iPhone was all wrong for me, especially
given ATT coverage in this rural area where I live, and I'm pretty hard
on cell phones.  I wish they had included a few more of the iPhone apps
that would have worked with WiFi, but I guess they didn't want to
undercut the iPhone too much.

I'll admit that this is one of those things I bought simply because I
found it to be an elegant technological toy, and I get a certain amount
of pleasure just from using it.   If my laptop is not on, it's actually
much quicker to check things like the weather channel on the ipod.

 Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 3:16 PM 
On 10/01/08, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:

If the iPhone had an HDD, I'd be interested in one,
as it is, it's a downgrade as an MP3 player from my 60GB iPod.

I gather manufacturers are ceasing production of small HDDs - I expect
because flash memory is now reaching decent capacities? I grimace
every
time I see my son chuck his 80GB video iPod about. Those little read/
write arms

8GB on my iPhone is bad. I want 32 at least (flash).

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RE: PDML book

2008-01-10 Thread Bob W
I thought Lulu was the better first version. I didn't want to use
Paypal, so I passed on the book at that time. When the next version
came out, supposedly lower quality, I bought that. The quality is
perfectly acceptable, and I'm very glad to have the book.

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Jaume Lahuerta
 Sent: 10 January 2008 20:39
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 I bought the Lulu edition of Juan's book and well, it is OK 
 for the price, but Juan's pictures deserves some better printing.
 But this was just a cheap version of the real thing, better edited.
 For the second book he used something called 'blurb'. Fot the 
 price I suspect that it is a fine edition too.
 Here are the details:
 http://jbuhler.com/buy/book.html
 
 
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 Enviado: jueves, 10 de enero, 2008 20:34:06
 Asunto: Re: PDML book
 
 I think that was a Lulu.  As it were.
  
  From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2008/01/10 Thu PM 05:40:11 GMT
  To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: PDML book
  
  On 10/01/08, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
  
  I've been looking for online printing services and the 
 only one that
  is
  at least reasonable (and not slightly scary - anyone want a silk
  covered
  book printed in China?) seems to be Lulu.  50page softback ~$16,
  hardback ~$20.  Both about 8.25 x 11 and with an unkown postage
  cost
  and assuming a run of 50.
  
  Is there anywhere else I should be looking?
  
  I was mightily impressed with Juan Buhler's book - the quality of
  reproduction is excellent. Juan?
  
  -- 
  
  
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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
 *Of course it does take awhile for a Li-Ion battery to die
 of old age, about, what, 5-6 years in this case?

My original series iPod 5G model, purchased 1 months after the iPod  
release in November 2001 through an Apple Employee purchase deal, is  
still permitting up to 9 hours of play per charge. That's down about  
1 hour from when it was new. I continue to use it every day...

Godfrey

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Re: PDML book

2008-01-10 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 10, 2008 3:42 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/01/08, Jaume Lahuerta, discombobulated, unleashed:

 I bought the Lulu edition

 sorry guys I'm being totally thick herewhat's a Lulu?

Must, resist, must.

Look here my friend.

http://www.lulu.com/en/?gclid=CIe_2trI7JACFQMQlwodukU6nQ

Mark Casino's book is from here, and its pretty good.

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Re: PDML book

2008-01-10 Thread ann sanfedele
David J Brooks wrote:

On Jan 10, 2008 3:42 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

On 10/01/08, Jaume Lahuerta, discombobulated, unleashed:

I bought the Lulu edition
  

sorry guys I'm being totally thick herewhat's a Lulu?



Must, resist, must.

Look here my friend.

http://www.lulu.com/en/?gclid=CIe_2trI7JACFQMQlwodukU6nQ

Mark Casino's book is from here, and its pretty good.

Dave
  

mine are lulu too -- had a problem with them over one but these
are nicely done - caution - if you are looking at previews of ANY of our
books on lulu be aware that the preview images are intentionally low 
quality.

http://www.lulu.com/content/1228584
http://www.lulu.com/content/1145976
http://www.lulu.com/content/1134715

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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Macworld SF is next week. I'm expecting iPhone and iPod Touch new  
product announcements, well hoping really as something with more  
capacity, smaller, lighter, and with more functionality than my now- 
ancient iPod would be nice. The iPhone would be neat but I'm leery of  
the service contract cost.

Godfrey

On Jan 10, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Steve Desjardins wrote:

 I'm OK with 8 GB for now.  I just pick what I want and sync with my
 laptop.I know folks that do carry their whole collection  
 around, but
 I go through phases and can get by with a mere several hundred  
 songs at
 a time.

 I like the iPod touch.  The iPhone was all wrong for me, especially
 given ATT coverage in this rural area where I live, and I'm pretty  
 hard
 on cell phones.  I wish they had included a few more of the iPhone  
 apps
 that would have worked with WiFi, but I guess they didn't want to
 undercut the iPhone too much.

 I'll admit that this is one of those things I bought simply because I
 found it to be an elegant technological toy, and I get a certain  
 amount
 of pleasure just from using it.   If my laptop is not on, it's  
 actually
 much quicker to check things like the weather channel on the ipod.


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Re: PDML book

2008-01-10 Thread ann sanfedele
mike wilson wrote:

I think that was a Lulu.  As it were.


Juan left LULU cause he didn't like the quality of the photo images.
My stuff is on lulu and a couple of you have it...
I think the text quality is excellent and the bw photos on the plain 
text paper they use, also.

I'm just back on list briefly  saw this...

aside to Godders, lulu finally got back to me on the
printing issue with son of sign language (the cheapo version - ) 
 _today_ and wrote as if
they had just seen what I sent them in snail mail for the first time --
i took it off the site since my cafepress one is very well done.

ann

  

From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/01/10 Thu PM 05:40:11 GMT
To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PDML book

On 10/01/08, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:



I've been looking for online printing services and the only one that is
at least reasonable (and not slightly scary - anyone want a silk covered
book printed in China?) seems to be Lulu.  50page softback ~$16,
hardback ~$20.  Both about 8.25 x 11 and with an unkown postage cost
and assuming a run of 50.

Is there anywhere else I should be looking?
  

I was mightily impressed with Juan Buhler's book - the quality of
reproduction is excellent. Juan?

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Re: No Content

2008-01-10 Thread mike wilson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOErZuzZpS8
 
 From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/01/10 Thu PM 08:54:28 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: No Content
 
 Head torches?  I mean the fire variety.
 
  mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 2:42 PM 
 
  
  From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2008/01/10 Thu PM 05:04:06 GMT
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: No Content
  
  I'll do my part.
  
  I'd like to get a bracket for the K10D that will hold a lit torch. 
 I
  think electronic flashes tend to wash out the highlights.
 
 What about one of those head torches?
 
  
   P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 11:12 AM 
  Scott Loveless wrote:
   P. J. Alling wrote:
 
   Like most other posts, (this is just a test though).
  
   
   Don't sell yourself short, Peter.  This could very well be the
 start
  of 
   the longest thread in PDML history.
  
 
  I fear you might be right...
  
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Re: PDML book

2008-01-10 Thread mike wilson
Thanks.  Blurb was on the possible list.
 
 From: Jaume Lahuerta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/01/10 Thu PM 08:38:54 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PDML book
 
 I bought the Lulu edition of Juan's book and well, it is OK for the price, 
 but Juan's pictures deserves some better printing.
 But this was just a cheap version of the real thing, better edited.
 For the second book he used something called 'blurb'. Fot the price I suspect 
 that it is a fine edition too.
 Here are the details:
 http://jbuhler.com/buy/book.html
 
 
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 De: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Enviado: jueves, 10 de enero, 2008 20:34:06
 Asunto: Re: PDML book
 
 I think that was a Lulu.  As it were.
  
  From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2008/01/10 Thu PM 05:40:11 GMT
  To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: PDML book
  
  On 10/01/08, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
  
  I've been looking for online printing services and the only one that
  is
  at least reasonable (and not slightly scary - anyone want a silk
  covered
  book printed in China?) seems to be Lulu.  50page softback ~$16,
  hardback ~$20.  Both about 8.25 x 11 and with an unkown postage
  cost
  and assuming a run of 50.
  
  Is there anywhere else I should be looking?
  
  I was mightily impressed with Juan Buhler's book - the quality of
  reproduction is excellent. Juan?
  
  -- 
  
  
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Re: No Content

2008-01-10 Thread mike wilson
Never seen The crazy world of arthur brown?
 
 From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/01/10 Thu PM 08:54:28 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
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 Head torches?  I mean the fire variety.
 
  mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 2:42 PM 
 
  
  From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2008/01/10 Thu PM 05:04:06 GMT
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: No Content
  
  I'll do my part.
  
  I'd like to get a bracket for the K10D that will hold a lit torch. 
 I
  think electronic flashes tend to wash out the highlights.
 
 What about one of those head torches?
 
  
   P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 11:12 AM 
  Scott Loveless wrote:
   P. J. Alling wrote:
 
   Like most other posts, (this is just a test though).
  
   
   Don't sell yourself short, Peter.  This could very well be the
 start
  of 
   the longest thread in PDML history.
  
 
  I fear you might be right...
  
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Re: PDML book

2008-01-10 Thread ann sanfedele
Cotty wrote:

On 10/01/08, Jaume Lahuerta, discombobulated, unleashed:

  

Juan's book and well, it is OK for the price, but Juan's pictures
deserves some better printing.



I am surprised, I found the printing to be quite good?

  

The scary thing is, it could be pretty inconsistent... lulu doesn't use 
the same printer for everyone...
not even the same location - I think.

they send the files to a printer who is closest to the person who 
ordered it.  A problem with P O D
even if the same machine same file same place a different operator could 
screw it up.  a little scary.

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Re: Question for automobile enthusiasts on the list

2008-01-10 Thread 272yb
You got it..


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 Poor old nincompoop, thinks it's a Cadillac.
 
 Except it's usually not nincompoop.
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2008/01/09 Wed PM 11:47:18 GMT
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  That's not what I know it as.Goes like POOR OLD and so forth.
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   On 09/01/08, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
   
   Incidentally, am I alone in not knowing the rude Pontiac thing?
   
   Pull Out Naughty Thing In A Car
   
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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread graywolf
Of course it has a touch screen. Be kind of hard to use 
without one. It was actually the first of the modern high 
res screen Pocket PC's, VGA, compact flash  sd card slots, 
built in wifi, IR wireless. Newer Pocket PC's are faster but 
generally do not have a lot more features.

With a CF GPS plugged in it has served as my in car 
navigation system as well as pocket organizer, but it lost 
the top line on the screen about a year ago, and now the 
battery is gone. Unfortunately I can not afford to replace 
it, or even the battery. But, hell, I can't afford to go 
anywhere any more anyway...


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Steve Desjardins wrote:
 Did the Toshiba have a touch screen?  I read an old web review and  it
 didn't seem that way.
 
 Steven Desjardins
 Department of Chemistry
 Washington and Lee University
 Lexington, VA 24450
 (540) 458-8873
 FAX: (540) 458-8878
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 12:43 PM 
 What is the difference between that and my old Toshiba e755? 
 Besides a smaller screen, the apple name, and a working 
 battery*, I mean.
 
 *Of course it does take awhile for a Li-Ion battery to die 
 of old age, about, what, 5-6 years in this case? Apple sure 
 is at the forefront of technology aren't they.
 
 OTOH, Apple does know how to promote their stuff. How many 
 of you knew that you could be a Pocket PC with a built in 
 cel-phone for several years before Apple came out with one?
 
 
 
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 Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com 
 Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ 
 ---
 
 Steve Desjardins wrote:
 Assuming it's an accidental leak.  ;-)

 BTW, I have an iPod touch (the iPhone sans the phone part) and it has
 a
 3.5-inch (diagonal) screen with 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163
 pixels per inch.  It's really stunning,  especially as a digital
 photo
 wallet.  This is what I want on a camera.

 David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 7:59 AM 
 Frankly, the fact that we're seeing leaked info from Samsung,  not
 from Pentax, says to me that the Pentax PR people haven't learnt a
 damn thing from the success of the K10D pre announcement.

 Cheers,

 Dave

 On Jan 10, 2008 9:16 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 That's an easy one. Pentax saw it. Samsung's PR people apparently
 violated the embargo date.
 Paul

 On Jan 10, 2008, at 6:46 AM, jim wrote:

 hmmm. it appears that they have changed the artical.
 wounder why?

 James
 

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PESO-Sports photo

2008-01-10 Thread 272yb
I don't remember if I showed to the list but what do you think ?? Joe

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6486966

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PESO-Sports photos slide show

2008-01-10 Thread 272yb
Here is a link to some of my sports photos as a slide show..Joe

http://photo.net/photodb/slideshow?folder_id=707206

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New member with old (I'm sure) question

2008-01-10 Thread Rick Denney
Greetings, folks. After years of hearing about this list from its
members who are on other lists in which I participate, and after
realizing that a high percentage of my film photography uses Pentax
equipment, I've finally joined.

I'm an amateur photographer with former professional experience and
about 35 years of practice, not necessarily doing the right things.
I've have everything from a Canonet 28 to 4.5 Cambo. My digital work
is done using SOB (some other brand--Canon), but most of my film work
is done using either a 645N, 645NII, or a 6x7. I also have a modest
collection of ex-Soviet stuff just for fun, and frequently use the
better of the lenses for that system on my 645 with an adapter. I also
have some old and now retire Mamiya and Rolleiflex TLR's. I live in
Northern Virginia after growing up in Texas.

Whatever I might have earned by introducing myself will now be dashed
by asking a question that I'm sure has been discussed to death. But
searching the archives seems to be quite difficult in that one must do
a lot of downloading, etc. So, I'll just ask it and beg for
forbearance.

What is the latest scuttlebutt on a Digital 645? The latest I heard,
from my dealer but not seen in print anywhere, is that they are
re-engineering it with a 31MP sensor. I have also heard that it will
be offered in Japan only and not North America. I'm holding off on
buying a new digital camera and have been waiting for this one for a
long time, and though I believe a larger sensor in a 645 body would
provide superior image quality to anything in a 24x36 or smaller
format, I'm starting to lose heart.

A link to something specific in the archives would be appreciated if
you don't want to rehash.

Rick itchy fingers Denney

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RE: New member with old (I'm sure) question

2008-01-10 Thread Bob W
 I'm holding off on
 buying a new digital camera and have been waiting for this one for a
 long time, [...] I'm starting to lose heart.

Welcome. You'll fit right in.

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Rick Denney
 Sent: 10 January 2008 22:44
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: New member with old (I'm sure) question
 
 Greetings, folks. After years of hearing about this list from its
 members who are on other lists in which I participate, and after
 realizing that a high percentage of my film photography uses Pentax
 equipment, I've finally joined.
 
 I'm an amateur photographer with former professional experience and
 about 35 years of practice, not necessarily doing the right things.
 I've have everything from a Canonet 28 to 4.5 Cambo. My digital work
 is done using SOB (some other brand--Canon), but most of my film
work
 is done using either a 645N, 645NII, or a 6x7. I also have a modest
 collection of ex-Soviet stuff just for fun, and frequently use the
 better of the lenses for that system on my 645 with an adapter. I
also
 have some old and now retire Mamiya and Rolleiflex TLR's. I live in
 Northern Virginia after growing up in Texas.
 
 Whatever I might have earned by introducing myself will now be
dashed
 by asking a question that I'm sure has been discussed to death. But
 searching the archives seems to be quite difficult in that one must
do
 a lot of downloading, etc. So, I'll just ask it and beg for
 forbearance.
 
 What is the latest scuttlebutt on a Digital 645? The latest I heard,
 from my dealer but not seen in print anywhere, is that they are
 re-engineering it with a 31MP sensor. I have also heard that it will
 be offered in Japan only and not North America. I'm holding off on
 buying a new digital camera and have been waiting for this one for a
 long time, and though I believe a larger sensor in a 645 body would
 provide superior image quality to anything in a 24x36 or smaller
 format, I'm starting to lose heart.
 
 A link to something specific in the archives would be appreciated if
 you don't want to rehash.
 
 Rick itchy fingers Denney
 
 ---
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Re: New member with old (I'm sure) question

2008-01-10 Thread graywolf
No one can like to something specific, Rick. All there are a 
  lot of rumors, ya and nay. Plus of course opinions, we 
here on the PDML have a lot of opinions.


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Rick Denney wrote:
 Greetings, folks. After years of hearing about this list from its
 members who are on other lists in which I participate, and after
 realizing that a high percentage of my film photography uses Pentax
 equipment, I've finally joined.
 
 I'm an amateur photographer with former professional experience and
 about 35 years of practice, not necessarily doing the right things.
 I've have everything from a Canonet 28 to 4.5 Cambo. My digital work
 is done using SOB (some other brand--Canon), but most of my film work
 is done using either a 645N, 645NII, or a 6x7. I also have a modest
 collection of ex-Soviet stuff just for fun, and frequently use the
 better of the lenses for that system on my 645 with an adapter. I also
 have some old and now retire Mamiya and Rolleiflex TLR's. I live in
 Northern Virginia after growing up in Texas.
 
 Whatever I might have earned by introducing myself will now be dashed
 by asking a question that I'm sure has been discussed to death. But
 searching the archives seems to be quite difficult in that one must do
 a lot of downloading, etc. So, I'll just ask it and beg for
 forbearance.
 
 What is the latest scuttlebutt on a Digital 645? The latest I heard,
 from my dealer but not seen in print anywhere, is that they are
 re-engineering it with a 31MP sensor. I have also heard that it will
 be offered in Japan only and not North America. I'm holding off on
 buying a new digital camera and have been waiting for this one for a
 long time, and though I believe a larger sensor in a 645 body would
 provide superior image quality to anything in a 24x36 or smaller
 format, I'm starting to lose heart.
 
 A link to something specific in the archives would be appreciated if
 you don't want to rehash.
 
 Rick itchy fingers Denney
 
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Re: PDML book

2008-01-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/01/08, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:


Look here my friend.

http://www.lulu.com/en/?gclid=CIe_2trI7JACFQMQlwodukU6nQ

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Re: New member with old (I'm sure) question

2008-01-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/01/08, Rick Denney, discombobulated, unleashed:

Rick itchy fingers Denney

welcome to the list, Fingers. Pull up a stool. You'll be on it a while
waiting for the D645 ;-)



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Re: New member with old (I'm sure) question

2008-01-10 Thread David J Brooks
Welcome Rick.
We have OBS here so you can say Canon and Nikon and even Sony.:-)

We don't bite, well Cotty might, but thats about it.:-0

Dave B

On Jan 10, 2008 6:08 PM, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No one can like to something specific, Rick. All there are a
   lot of rumors, ya and nay. Plus of course opinions, we
 here on the PDML have a lot of opinions.


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 Rick Denney wrote:
  Greetings, folks. After years of hearing about this list from its
  members who are on other lists in which I participate, and after
  realizing that a high percentage of my film photography uses Pentax
  equipment, I've finally joined.
 
  I'm an amateur photographer with former professional experience and
  about 35 years of practice, not necessarily doing the right things.
  I've have everything from a Canonet 28 to 4.5 Cambo. My digital work
  is done using SOB (some other brand--Canon), but most of my film work
  is done using either a 645N, 645NII, or a 6x7. I also have a modest
  collection of ex-Soviet stuff just for fun, and frequently use the
  better of the lenses for that system on my 645 with an adapter. I also
  have some old and now retire Mamiya and Rolleiflex TLR's. I live in
  Northern Virginia after growing up in Texas.
 
  Whatever I might have earned by introducing myself will now be dashed
  by asking a question that I'm sure has been discussed to death. But
  searching the archives seems to be quite difficult in that one must do
  a lot of downloading, etc. So, I'll just ask it and beg for
  forbearance.
 
  What is the latest scuttlebutt on a Digital 645? The latest I heard,
  from my dealer but not seen in print anywhere, is that they are
  re-engineering it with a 31MP sensor. I have also heard that it will
  be offered in Japan only and not North America. I'm holding off on
  buying a new digital camera and have been waiting for this one for a
  long time, and though I believe a larger sensor in a 645 body would
  provide superior image quality to anything in a 24x36 or smaller
  format, I'm starting to lose heart.
 
  A link to something specific in the archives would be appreciated if
  you don't want to rehash.
 
  Rick itchy fingers Denney
 
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Re: PESO-Sports photo

2008-01-10 Thread David J Brooks
Great shot.

Dave

On Jan 10, 2008 5:32 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't remember if I showed to the list but what do you think ?? Joe

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6486966

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Re: PESO-Sports photo

2008-01-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/01/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

I don't remember if I showed to the list but what do you think ?? Joe

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6486966

Pretty goo Joe. Turn it into mono and bump the contrast up a bit and I'd
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Re: No Content

2008-01-10 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 10, 2008 4:27 PM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOErZuzZpS8

 
  From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2008/01/10 Thu PM 08:54:28 GMT
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: No Content
 
  Head torches?  I mean the fire variety.
 
   mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 2:42 PM 

Ahhh. 1968.
One memory back, only 8,000,000,000 to go.

Dave
 
  
   From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: 2008/01/10 Thu PM 05:04:06 GMT
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   I'll do my part.
  
   I'd like to get a bracket for the K10D that will hold a lit torch.
  I
   think electronic flashes tend to wash out the highlights.
 
  What about one of those head torches?
 
  
P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 11:12 AM 
   Scott Loveless wrote:
P. J. Alling wrote:
   
Like most other posts, (this is just a test though).
   
   
Don't sell yourself short, Peter.  This could very well be the
  start
   of
the longest thread in PDML history.
   
   
   I fear you might be right...
  
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Re: PESO-Sports photo

2008-01-10 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 10, 2008 6:33 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/01/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

 I don't remember if I showed to the list but what do you think ?? Joe
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6486966

 Pretty goo Joe. Turn it into mono and bump the contrast up a bit and I'd
 say great.

I bet you say that to all the girls::-)

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Re: New member with old (I'm sure) question

2008-01-10 Thread Bob Sullivan
Rick,
Welcome.
A fair number of rumors here in the past.
There was a non-working mock-up at a pdma,
then another under wraps the following year,
then an announcement putting the project on hold. (Hoya)
Then rumors that the whole thing was dead and to forget about it.
Personally, I'm hoping this is wrong.  ;-)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Jan 10, 2008 4:43 PM, Rick Denney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings, folks. After years of hearing about this list from its
 members who are on other lists in which I participate, and after
 realizing that a high percentage of my film photography uses Pentax
 equipment, I've finally joined.

 I'm an amateur photographer with former professional experience and
 about 35 years of practice, not necessarily doing the right things.
 I've have everything from a Canonet 28 to 4.5 Cambo. My digital work
 is done using SOB (some other brand--Canon), but most of my film work
 is done using either a 645N, 645NII, or a 6x7. I also have a modest
 collection of ex-Soviet stuff just for fun, and frequently use the
 better of the lenses for that system on my 645 with an adapter. I also
 have some old and now retire Mamiya and Rolleiflex TLR's. I live in
 Northern Virginia after growing up in Texas.

 Whatever I might have earned by introducing myself will now be dashed
 by asking a question that I'm sure has been discussed to death. But
 searching the archives seems to be quite difficult in that one must do
 a lot of downloading, etc. So, I'll just ask it and beg for
 forbearance.

 What is the latest scuttlebutt on a Digital 645? The latest I heard,
 from my dealer but not seen in print anywhere, is that they are
 re-engineering it with a 31MP sensor. I have also heard that it will
 be offered in Japan only and not North America. I'm holding off on
 buying a new digital camera and have been waiting for this one for a
 long time, and though I believe a larger sensor in a 645 body would
 provide superior image quality to anything in a 24x36 or smaller
 format, I'm starting to lose heart.

 A link to something specific in the archives would be appreciated if
 you don't want to rehash.

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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/01/08, Steve Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed:

I like the iPod touch.  The iPhone was all wrong for me, especially
given ATT coverage in this rural area where I live, and I'm pretty hard
on cell phones. 

Understood.

My phone is used intermittently every single day. I say intermittently,
but on the days I am working, it is in a charging cradle on the dash
with Google maps guiding me, phone calls in and out. I seem to keep
under the 600 minutes a month (just). Then if i get out the car, it
does. It then slips into one of these:

http://www.senacases.com/Brands/Apple-iPhone-Cases/SENA-MAGNETFLIPPER-
CASE-FOR-iPHONE

http://tinyurl.com/39khuq

which would fit the Touch as well I think. They're very slippery and I'm
frightened of it slipping out of my hand. Offers good protection though.

Compared to the Treo, it;s a dream.

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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/01/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

Macworld SF is next week. I'm expecting iPhone and iPod Touch new  
product announcements,

3G iPhone. 32GB. 1.1.3  Come on Godders, get a first gen off eBay and
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Re: PESO-Sports photos slide show

2008-01-10 Thread David J Brooks
Coach and ref and coach and catcher are very good,

Some nice shots in that slide show

Dave

On Jan 10, 2008 5:35 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here is a link to some of my sports photos as a slide show..Joe

 http://photo.net/photodb/slideshow?folder_id=707206

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Re: PESO-Sports photo

2008-01-10 Thread cbwaters
Looks too much like a flash photo for me.  Of course, it is a flash photo 
but I'd like it better if it didn't look so much like it was.  Make sense? 
That and the package is maybe a little too centered, IYKWIM.

CW

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I don't remember if I showed to the list but what do you think ?? Joe

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6486966

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Re: PESO-Sports photo

2008-01-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/01/08, cbwaters, discombobulated, unleashed:

Looks too much like a flash photo for me.  Of course, it is a flash photo 

Mark!

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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/01/08, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://tinyurl.com/39khuq

which would fit the Touch as well I think. They're very slippery and I'm
frightened of it slipping out of my hand. Offers good protection though.

Sorry - I just re-read that and to clarify: the phone is slippery and
the case makes it not slippery and offers protection.

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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Jon Paul Schelter
Indeed.  Arguably, if they maintain a positive pressure differential,  
it should be weather proof.

On 10-Jan-08, at 12:43 PM, William Robb wrote:


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 There was an earlier Pentax leak.

 So its not weather proof then.

 We know stuff leaks out, whether anything actually leaks in is  
 anyone's
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Re: New member with old (I'm sure) question

2008-01-10 Thread Doug Franklin
Hi Rick,

Rick Denney wrote:

 [...] I've finally joined.

Welcome!  Get your tinfoil hat and fire extinguisher ready!  Oh, and 
don't believe anything Frank or Cotty say. :-)

And please Google search for and read the PDML FAQ.  It only gets posted 
occasionally, but it has some important information, like explanations 
for some of the acronyms specific to the PDML, and the list's ebay policy.

 [...] most of my film work
 is done using either a 645N, 645NII, or a 6x7.

You'll find several kindred spirits around here.  There are quite a few 
members of The Brotherhood around.

 What is the latest scuttlebutt on a Digital 645?

It's been discussed quite a bit, but I don't think anyone has an inside 
track on what's happening with that.  I get the sense that most of those 
interested feel that it's probably at least on hold while Hoya figures 
out what to do with it.

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Re: New member with old (I'm sure) question

2008-01-10 Thread Rick Denney
Cotty writes...

 On 10/01/08, Rick Denney, discombobulated, unleashed:

Rick itchy fingers Denney

 welcome to the list, Fingers. Pull up a stool. You'll be on it a while
 waiting for the D645 ;-)

So it would seem. It would appear that the paltry information I found
in a quick web search is all there is to know, at least for people not
employed by Pentax.

Knowing what I know about the difference between price and cost, I
suspect Pentax (Hoya) may have found that they can't make it cheap
enough to sell it for what they should sell it for to compete with
Canon (and perhaps Nikon) offerings. That will kill a project faster
than mere technical infeasibility.

The itching happens whenever I contemplate a Canon 5D. No, it's not
31mp, but I don't need 31mp and generally don't want to have to store
it. I would have been happy with 18 million larger pixels in the
Pentax. I have no means of scratching the itch when contemplating an
18mp Canon, but a Pentax at a similar price might force me into
penury.

I have plenty of lenses either way, but generally I think larger is
better even with digital. I'm happy with what I get from film except
that the time it takes to scan it keeps me from doing very much of it.

On to more important pursuits: Finding an affordable 45mm lens for the
6x7.

Rick glad not to be the only one who is discombobulated and
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Re: PESO-Sports photo

2008-01-10 Thread Doug Franklin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't remember if I showed to the list but what do you think ?? Joe
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6486966

Technically, it's a good photo, but it doesn't do much for me, 
personally.  Of course, neither does Greco-Roman wrestling, so that 
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Re: New member with old (I'm sure) question

2008-01-10 Thread Rick Denney
Doug Franklin writes...

 Welcome!  Get your tinfoil hat and fire extinguisher ready!  Oh, and
 don't believe anything Frank or Cotty say. :-)

I'm never without same. I own an Exakta 66, a Pentacon Six, three Kiev
60's, a Kiev 88CM, and various other ex-Soviet junque. That brings an
unusual combination of paranoia and thick skin.

 And please Google search for and read the PDML FAQ.

Done before I posted--it was earlier on the Google search than the
page with subscribing instructions.

...
 Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ)

Hey, time to upgrade that license, heh, heh.

Rick KR9D Denney

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Re: PESO - Glenview Apartments

2008-01-10 Thread Jon Paul Schelter
Great shot frank.

I was out that day without my camera and was kicking myself.  The Don  
Valley looked incredible, with all the trees covered in new snow.   
Winters in Toronto are so rarely that nice, and you've captured it  
beautifully.

jp


On 4-Jan-08, at 8:14 AM, frank theriault wrote:

 After the snowfall on New Years Day:

 http://tinyurl.com/2cqkdq

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R3zefY8j2kI/BNY/9JWQSR-VMRU/s1600-h/jan_3_08+002.jpg

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Re: New member with old (I'm sure) question

2008-01-10 Thread David Savage
At 09:16 AM 11/01/2008, Rick Denney wrote:

G'day Rick  welcome to hell

I have plenty of lenses either way, but generally I think larger is
better even with digital. I'm happy with what I get from film except
that the time it takes to scan it keeps me from doing very much of it.

The bigger is better mentality is why some of us do a lot of 
panoramas/stitching :-)

On to more important pursuits: Finding an affordable 45mm lens for the
6x7.

Tell me about it.

Rick glad not to be the only one who is discombobulated and
unleashed Denney

Cotty's a Pom. (need I say more...)


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Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?

2008-01-10 Thread Doug Brewer
trim your posts please. Do it for the children.

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