Re: Pretty Girls Was: test message
On 1/3/08, Lasse Karlsson, discombobulated, unleashed: Just some nice shots of a very nice young lady and a great model. You'd all love to meet and work with her. She moved to Ireland though. http://blogg.alandstidningen.ax/LasseK/index.asp?show=all Okay, form an orderly line - Loveless, stop pushing -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pretty Girls Was: test message
http://blogg.alandstidningen.ax/LasseK/index.asp?show=all Okay, form an orderly line - Loveless, stop pushing Sorry. Sometimes I get ahead of myself. It'll blow by... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: First K20D Pic
Paul Stenquist wrote: The K20D arrived today. Got home from work late. Installed a charged battery from the old stockpile. Attached my battery grip and the FA 50/1.4 lens. Grace wasn't feeling well, and by this time she had laid down on her Elmo chair in front of the TV. No lights. Here's a pic at ISO 6400, f2 1/40th. Noise reduction is set to Weak, but I've read that reverts to strong at 6400. Some dulling of the detail but certainly nice for portraits. IMO, it compares well to the K10 at 1600. I need that capability. I am pleased thus far. Grace had a second coming later. More pics to follow. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7006983size=lg It's not only the lack of noise but the dynamics of the photo what's really amazes me. Congrats on your K20D. I hope to hold one in my hands soon :D .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: IR Cacti
Derby, Second one is my Favorite. Very neat - details??? Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love being able to see when shooting IR. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_03/08_03_IRCacti/index.htm D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Online photography/art magazine
Bob Sullivan wrote: Un-readable interface. I'll pass. I'd appreciate it if you'd send them an email and tell them that. Design is nice, but it's of no use if it sacrifices usability. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.antidull.com/ Not sure what I think of it yet but it's an interesting concept so I agreed to let them use one of my photographs. I was very surprised at the one they chose; though it's one I quite like myself, no one else has ever picked it out as anything special. I hate Flash-based pages myself and this is probably less satisfying than most, due to its small size. Kind of fun, though. Anyway, from the home page above you can click on one of the issue thumbnails on the right side of the screen (there's nothing to tell you they're links, but they are). My shot is in issue 2, which just went on line today. BTW: You flip through the pages by clicking on either the upper left or upper right corner. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Sigma DP1 pics
Actually, I have to admit, I'm a little disappointed with the look of these sample tests. Acceptable, certainly, but my socks are still firmly on my feet http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1204240029.html D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: IR Cacti
Thanks Bong, thanks Bob. Nothing much to the details. Rather embarrassingly simple actually. R-D1 with the Voigt Nokton 35/1.2 (around f4 I think, since the M mount apertures are completely decoupled, there is no EXIF data). +2 compensation. And no compensation for the IR focus point. Hoya R72 IR filter. Bang away merrily It is so nice to be able to look through a rangefinder and see what you are shooting. I never really enjoyed using the *istDS for IR, even though the results were nice. Bong Manayon wrote: Hey this is a nice change...I been looking at too many (false) color IRs that they're beginning to look alike...love the details. Bong On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love being able to see when shooting IR. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_03/08_03_IRCacti/index.htm D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My dog
- Original Message - From: Ira H. Bryant IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: My dog I'm new to photography, having bought a K100D Super last October. I've been lurking on the list for a while. It is a great place to learn things. Hi Ira: I lurked for a while as well and just came out last mid-December. You'll learn things on this list to be sure!! My 1st PESO had Vertical issues as well--leaning trees all that--follow Paul's advice about rotating the image--but be on the look out for Frank's opinion about verticals: he's not as loyal to the perpindicular rule as others--heck, you may come to agree with him. Frank, does tilt very well! It's funny though, although I am enjoying photography, I'm rarely happy with the pictures I take. 1) The more pictures you take, the more you'll improve, the more likely you'll be happy with your photos. This rule has not changed. 2) For composition: follow the rule of thirds 3) Fill up the view finder with interesting subject material; start with photographing the people, places, events you care about. 4) Learn everything you can about light shadow. Apprentice writer's who aren't interested in words have a real problem, right, because words are the writer's medium. Apprentice photographers who aren't interested in light shadow have a real problem, right, because light shadow are a photographer's medium. Great light makes great photos. 5) Learn your camera, read your manual, then read your manual again. Learn to use your camera as a tool to capture an interesting photograph. All of this takes time, so allow yourself to be a beginner, to learn. I do like this picture of my dog, though. You have a very handsome dog, truely. Now go take more photos that radiate your dog's handsomeness. And I send you a big welcome to the list. When I came out, everyone was so welcoming. It feels great to be able to return the favor to a new poster. Cheers, Christine http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2276/2231287049_9e79c96321.jpg larger: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2276/2231287049_957e7a653a_o.jpg I would enjoy any advice you have to give. Thanks, Ira -- Ira Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Massive earthquake rocksBritain -several chimney pots slightly damaged
80 is definitely out for DX except on rare occasions, 40 is too crowded with international AM commercial broadcasts. 20 is good if you've got lots of power to make yourself heard. Like I said before, I really liked 15 and 18M when I was active. Bill KG4LOV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Franklin Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 1:04 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Massive earthquake rocksBritain -several chimney pots slightly damaged Bill Owens wrote: 10M can be iffy. I always like 15 and 18 better, although many years ago I worked NZ with 60 watts AM on 10. Hey, guys, if I wanted to be able to talk reliably to Istanbul and the Balkans, what would be my choice of amateur bands? I'm guessing maybe 20m, 40m, 80m? -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Short Attention Spans (was Re: Pentax Photo Gallery Statistics)
You can also see it if you teach. It is hard for students to even conceive of a subject that will take years to master. (Fortunately not all) I think the problem is that it's just too easy to change the channel. When choices were more limited, people had to live with things for a while and could come to appreciate them. We were talking about this the other day. The patient chemistry students go to graduate school and the impatient ones go to medical school. Bong Manayon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/29/2008 10:54 PM I agree...and its not really confined to photos, wine or the American culture either. I'm going through a book by Richard Lanham (Economics of Attention, Univ of Chicago Press) where in the IT age, the commodity is not information (we have too much of it) but attention. So whether in the media, politics or religion, truth may ultimately be defined by those who can get or control people's attention... and the new priesthood is Google (if it is not yet the god of this age)... On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce, This larger trend is also reflected in the U.S. wine industry. The Robert Parker scale is really to blame. Parker tastes zillions of wines each year, so each wine has just a few seconds to make an impression. If it is subtle rather than big, and not hot (high in alcohol), it doesn't get a high (90+) score. I think that photo.net has exactly the same problem. Delicate, subtle images just don't have a big immediate impact, so they get overlooked. Probably comes with the short attention span endemic to American culture these days, too --Mark Bruce Dayton wrote: [cut, snip] In some respects, this seems to be following a larger trend. One in which art is transcending photography. Try looking at all the photos on photo.net galleries based on popularity. Almost all the shots are s dramatic that they just don't hardly look like our planet - even people shots have heavy doctoring of lighting. Extreme skies and wild, saturated colors are the norm these days - even though where I live, I see that kind of thing maybe once every few years. I seem to be rambling...must be one of those days. -- Best regards, Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:47c8d3f069101302186655! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Costco slide scanning
On Feb 29, 2008, at 10:37, Walter Hamler wrote: Bob, I just had over 500 done and they put them on 3 CD's. No charge for the cd's at all. I came in late to this, but... am I to understand that the quality is pretty good for the scans? .29/slide is a cheap price to pay, considering what a chore it is to scan slides at home. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: First K20D Pic
What you said, Paul. Love the big girl glass slippers. :) Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The K20D arrived today. Got home from work late. Installed a charged battery from the old stockpile. Attached my battery grip and the FA 50/1.4 lens. Grace wasn't feeling well, and by this time she had laid down on her Elmo chair in front of the TV. No lights. Here's a pic at ISO 6400, f2 1/40th. Noise reduction is set to Weak, but I've read that reverts to strong at 6400. Some dulling of the detail but certainly nice for portraits. IMO, it compares well to the K10 at 1600. I need that capability. I am pleased thus far. Grace had a second coming later. More pics to follow. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7006983size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Photo Gallery Statistics
Yes, it does. I've made the same assumptions, but was curious as to the possibility of there being other indicators. Thanks! Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jack, The method of determination of peer rejection vs. judges is based on speed of rejection. For the past couple of months, the judges have been taking 1-3 weeks to reject. Peer rejections are mostly within a few days. So if something has sat there for a long time (more than a week) and eventually gets rejected, that is most likely a judge. It is also easier to tell if there are several submissions. So an example would be that 10 are submitted. 7 of the are rejected within two days. The remaining 3 sit there for 3 weeks and then are all rejected at once. This would indicate that the 7 were peer rejections and the 3 were judge rejections. Makes sense, no? -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, February 29, 2008, 3:25:00 PM, you wrote: JD Bruce, JD In need of self validation? The comfort you will feel if the majority JD are accepted upon re-submission will be easily worth the risk. They JD certainly don't deserve the fate the eleven re-submitter images have JD experienced. JD How are you able to determine if an image is accepted/declined by peer JD voting vs the judges? JD I gather you have many more images to re-submit.(?) JD Jack JD --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I did the unpardonable - I took down all 53 of my photos. I had two in the collection. I have been slowly resubmitting my shots with the new voting in place. So far, the two that were in collection have been accepted, but not in collection. 9 that were in the gallery have been rejected. Most of those rejections have come on the peer voting - maybe 2 or 3 were rejected by the judges. In a weird sort of way, I feel better having almost all my work rejected. Before, I'm thinking that I had 53 in there and now everything is rejected. Now, I can just think that almost everything of mine is rejected, so at least it is consistent. I still haven't quite figured out the voting yet - it appears that if there is a huge wow factor, it might make it, but anything else, is very iffy. In some respects, this seems to be following a larger trend. One in which art is transcending photography. Try looking at all the photos on photo.net galleries based on popularity. Almost all the shots are s dramatic that they just don't hardly look like our planet - even people shots have heavy doctoring of lighting. Extreme skies and wild, saturated colors are the norm these days - even though where I live, I see that kind of thing maybe once every few years. I seem to be rambling...must be one of those days. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, February 29, 2008, 10:50:35 AM, you wrote: JD 'prox 4000 images divided by 1900 photogs = 2 images ea. JD '680= 6 (seems more JD logical). JD If there are some 4000 voters, the yes/no vote should be considered on JD the basis of the ratio and not the count, as was initially stated. JD May help explain the high reject level. JD Jack JD --- AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A couple of observations: Bunnell writes: 1900 photographers. Photographers list in gallery counts 680. Which means there are more than 1200 *unpublished* photographers casting votes. Interesting. Bunnell writes: max submitted photos from one photographer: 133 No photographer in the gallery have that many published. Some guy has at least 70 photos in the voting queue, and I'm dead certain it's not me... (yeah, I've got one of those days again... too much time and too little to do...) Jostein 2008/2/28, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just noticed that Ned Bunnell has posted some statistics (pdf files) about the gallery on his Blog. http://nedbunnell.blogspot.com/2008/02/pentax-photo-gallery.html One file shows a break down of contributors by Country. Not surprisingly, the USA is well out in front but Oz contributors are doing well and bringing up third place. The other file lists the most popular lenses used. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney, Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ JD JD -- Get a free email account with anti spam protection. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/2 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/
Re: PESO: Another K20D Pic
I think I'm impressed! Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This one is at ISO 1600, weak noise reduction, FA 50/1.4, f2 1/30th. Cropped to about 60$ of frame. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7007067 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Online photography/art magazine
LOL. I couldn't make it work. How do I see pictures? Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/29/2008 5:03 PM http://www.antidull.com/ Not sure what I think of it yet but it's an interesting concept so I agreed to let them use one of my photographs. I was very surprised at the one they chose; though it's one I quite like myself, no one else has ever picked it out as anything special. I hate Flash-based pages myself and this is probably less satisfying than most, due to its small size. Kind of fun, though. Anyway, from the home page above you can click on one of the issue thumbnails on the right side of the screen (there's nothing to tell you they're links, but they are). My shot is in issue 2, which just went on line today. BTW: You flip through the pages by clicking on either the upper left or upper right corner. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:47c882fe69101954054363! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Another K20D Pic
Paul Stenquist wrote: This one is at ISO 1600, weak noise reduction, FA 50/1.4, f2 1/30th. Cropped to about 60$ of frame. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7007067 Is there any camera that can take a *bad* picture of Grace? ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Online photography/art magazine
Steve Desjardins wrote: LOL. I couldn't make it work. How do I see pictures? Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/29/2008 5:03 PM http://www.antidull.com/ First of all, it's Flash-based, so you need the Flash plug-in on your browser. (That's strike 1 as far as I'm concerned.) If you have the Flash plug-in (most people do; it's like one of those bacteria that almost everyone has and only makes a few people sick) then you click on one of the thumbnail images on the right labeled Art Photography or Fine Art Issue. There's nothing to indicate these are clickable links - another design flaw - but they should launch a new window with the Flash player. When/if the Flash player launches, you'll be treated to coughexpansivecough 350 x 400 pixel images, which you browse by clicking on the corners of each page. Very non-intuitive navigation. Yes, lots of problems with this site. Write them and complain (or at least ask how the [EMAIL PROTECTED] is your site supposed to work?). I bitch about sites like this all the time but the creators will never know they've done something wrong if they don't hear from end users. What's sad is that there's some *really* good photography in it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Another K20D Pic
On 3/1/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: This one is at ISO 1600, weak noise reduction, FA 50/1.4, f2 1/30th. Cropped to about 60$ of frame. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7007067 Is there any camera that can take a *bad* picture of Grace? ;-) Leica with a lenscap still on ;-) -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Another K20D Pic
Been there, done that! Paul On Mar 1, 2008, at 9:30 AM, Adam Maas wrote: On 3/1/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: This one is at ISO 1600, weak noise reduction, FA 50/1.4, f2 1/30th. Cropped to about 60$ of frame. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7007067 Is there any camera that can take a *bad* picture of Grace? ;-) Leica with a lenscap still on ;-) -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS Friday: Manfrotto/Bogen 3021 tripod
I spend the extra money on gaffer's tape, whose adhesive stays on the tape. --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eww, yuck. Duct tape adhesive all over the legs of the tripod! Gross. I usually carry a small roll of duct tape in a plastic baggie if I'm out on a shoot. G On Feb 29, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: ... I always wrap a few feet of duct tape around the legs of my tripods so it's always handy if I need duct tape for something in the field. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Another K20D pic at 1600
Here's another pic shot at 1600 with the K20 and FA 50/1.4. It's hard to tell with these portrait pics, but the camera is front focusing with the FA 50. I'll try adjusting it later today. I'm also going to try some pics with the DA lenses and see how they compare. Still liking the noise levels a lot. This one was pretty much right on in terms of exposure, as were the other too. I underexposed a shot of a clock on the wall by about a stop, and it picked up quite a bit of noise pulling it up. The exposure, as one might expect, is critical at high ISO. This is ISO 1600, f2 @ 1/125th, continuous autofocus. (She was underway:-). Paul http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7008343 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Photo Gallery Statistics
Bruce, could you please tell me how to discover whether the photo was rejected by peer voting or by gallery judges? My hat's off before you for what you did! As for your ramble - you're absolutely right. I mean - unless one by conscious choice engages in computer graphic where the initial image comes through photographic process of either digital or analog kind, one is most definitely not in the trend. Boris Bruce Dayton wrote: Well, I did the unpardonable - I took down all 53 of my photos. I had two in the collection. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A silly idea
Thanks, guys, I knew something was missing. You know, the idea came to me when I was browsing the eekbay and I saw these 110 lenses... Well, no cake for me this time ;-). Cheers! Boris Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: 110 Instamatic film format is 13x17mm, very close to the Olympus 4/3 System 13x17.3 mm sensor size. That's roughly half the size in linear dimensions, about 1/4 the area of 24x36mm. The 4/3 lens mount has a flange to focus plane register of 38.5mm depth and diameter of ~47 mm. I seem to recall the Pentax Instamatic 110 SLR camera having a focus plane register around 22mm and mount diameter around 30mm. So while it might be possible to mount the lenses on a 4/3 camera, they would never focus to infinity. These lenses also don't have any aperture control and were designed for compactness, not telecentricity, so their performance on a digital sensor is most likely not going to be all that great. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: ~ King ~
- Original Message - From: Bill Owens Subject: RE: Peso: ~ King ~ I remember fishing in the local reservoir near Charlottesville, VA, seeing beavers quite often swimming in the water. They pretty well deforested the area immediately adjacent to the water. If you take a tape recorder and record the sound of a babbling brook, and the set it to play back (contiuous loop) somewhere away from running water, beavers will find it and build a dam on top of it. True story. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: IR Cacti
I have often wondered what cacti would look like photographed in IR. Very nice. Jim A. I love being able to see when shooting IR. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_03/08_03_IRCacti/index.htm D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: In Praise of Stephen Gandy
On Feb 29, 2008, at 22:09, Bob Sullivan wrote: Something is rotten in Denmark. This is a 2 day old post that just appeared, form me to me! Doug, I'm getting Rick's problems... I've found that the posts I was missing yesterday were ultimately delivered about 12 hours later. Seems the mail spent most of the day stuck inside of server1.emwd.com before finally being belched out again. Bummer! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: IR Cacti
Derby: These are very nice, especially that last one. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 11:11 PM Subject: GESO: IR Cacti I love being able to see when shooting IR. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_03/08_03_IRCacti/index.htm D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 16 - GDG
Very nice, Godfrey. This Cafe Life series is terrific. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: DUG [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PDML List PDML@pdml.net; PAW [EMAIL PROTECTED]; SeePhoto Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 8:02 PM Subject: PESO 2008 - 16 - GDG Another photo available for viewing ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/16-pensive.jpg Pensive Moment - This Cafe Life 2008 Panasonic L1 + Vario-Elmarit-D 14-50/2.8-3.5 ASPH OIS ISO 160 @ f/3.5 @ 1/25 sec, fl=44mm Comments and critique always appreciated. :-) enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: First K20D Pic
Impressive results. Nice Grace-ful image also. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: First K20D Pic The K20D arrived today. Got home from work late. Installed a charged battery from the old stockpile. Attached my battery grip and the FA 50/1.4 lens. Grace wasn't feeling well, and by this time she had laid down on her Elmo chair in front of the TV. No lights. Here's a pic at ISO 6400, f2 1/40th. Noise reduction is set to Weak, but I've read that reverts to strong at 6400. Some dulling of the detail but certainly nice for portraits. IMO, it compares well to the K10 at 1600. I need that capability. I am pleased thus far. Grace had a second coming later. More pics to follow. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7006983size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: First K20D Pic
Paul: All three of these are impressive for both subject ISO. Really impressive. Keep them coming. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 9:53 PM Subject: PESO: First K20D Pic The K20D arrived today. Got home from work late. Installed a charged battery from the old stockpile. Attached my battery grip and the FA 50/1.4 lens. Grace wasn't feeling well, and by this time she had laid down on her Elmo chair in front of the TV. No lights. Here's a pic at ISO 6400, f2 1/40th. Noise reduction is set to Weak, but I've read that reverts to strong at 6400. Some dulling of the detail but certainly nice for portraits. IMO, it compares well to the K10 at 1600. I need that capability. I am pleased thus far. Grace had a second coming later. More pics to follow. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7006983size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Short Attention Spans (was Re: Pentax Photo Gallery Statistics)
A few years ago I attended a seminar on marketing it was the opinion of the speaker that the computer had changed our perception of timing ... the click of the mouse has dictated the speed of the response we seek. I believe he talked of response times aroud 5-7 seconds as being what his surveys had indicated as being acceptable, especially with the younger computer users. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Bong Manayon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Short Attention Spans (was Re: Pentax Photo Gallery Statistics) I agree...and its not really confined to photos, wine or the American culture either. I'm going through a book by Richard Lanham (Economics of Attention, Univ of Chicago Press) where in the IT age, the commodity is not information (we have too much of it) but attention. So whether in the media, politics or religion, truth may ultimately be defined by those who can get or control people's attention... ...and the new priesthood is Google (if it is not yet the god of this age)... On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce, This larger trend is also reflected in the U.S. wine industry. The Robert Parker scale is really to blame. Parker tastes zillions of wines each year, so each wine has just a few seconds to make an impression. If it is subtle rather than big, and not hot (high in alcohol), it doesn't get a high (90+) score. I think that photo.net has exactly the same problem. Delicate, subtle images just don't have a big immediate impact, so they get overlooked. Probably comes with the short attention span endemic to American culture these days, too --Mark Bruce Dayton wrote: [cut, snip] In some respects, this seems to be following a larger trend. One in which art is transcending photography. Try looking at all the photos on photo.net galleries based on popularity. Almost all the shots are s dramatic that they just don't hardly look like our planet - even people shots have heavy doctoring of lighting. Extreme skies and wild, saturated colors are the norm these days - even though where I live, I see that kind of thing maybe once every few years. I seem to be rambling...must be one of those days. Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Short Attention Spans (was Re: Pentax Photo Gallery Statistics)
- Original Message - From: Ken Waller Subject: Re: Short Attention Spans (was Re: Pentax Photo Gallery Statistics) A few years ago I attended a seminar on marketing it was the opinion of the speaker that the computer had changed our perception of timing ... the click of the mouse has dictated the speed of the response we seek. I believe he talked of response times aroud 5-7 seconds as being what his surveys had indicated as being acceptable, especially with the younger computer users. Years and years ago, when the computer was still a small house sized contraption, I took a seminar on doing slide show type presentatons. Even back then, we were told that keeping a slide on the screen for more than 5 seconds was a good way to lose an audience. The peril of this is that you can't really learn anything in such short time periods, either because you can't process information fast enough, or because you simply can't get enough pertinent information into your head in a few seconds, and quite often, important decisions are made based on no knowledge at all. Think sound bites and election campaigns, and be afraid. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PPG Brain Damaged Voting System
My assessment of the Pentax Photo Gallery is that it encourages brain-damaged snap judgements. It provides 5 thumbnails at a time, and viewers must vote on all images before getting to the next set. There's no way to skip voting on any images, and there's no neutral vote. Viewers don't have to even look at full sized images before voting on them. It's just too easy to vote thumbs down on everything, particularly images that don't represent well in tiny thumbnails but may be breathtaking when viewed full size. My recommendation would be to show voters more thumbnails, and require images to be viewed full size for, say, 15 seconds before allowing a vote to be recorded. Just thoughts -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PPG Brain Damaged Voting System
- Original Message - From: Mark Erickson Subject: PPG Brain Damaged Voting System My assessment of the Pentax Photo Gallery is that it encourages brain-damaged snap judgements. It provides 5 thumbnails at a time, and viewers must vote on all images before getting to the next set. There's no way to skip voting on any images, and there's no neutral vote. Viewers don't have to even look at full sized images before voting on them. It's just too easy to vote thumbs down on everything, particularly images that don't represent well in tiny thumbnails but may be breathtaking when viewed full size. My recommendation would be to show voters more thumbnails, and require images to be viewed full size for, say, 15 seconds before allowing a vote to be recorded. The Pentax Photo Gallery buggered themselves as soon as they went to peer voting, and from the looks of it, have fucked things up even worse. It's too bad, as the concept is quite good, and I am sure that the pictures are very nice. I stopped looking at the thing when they decided that judging by incompetents was de rigeur. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Online photography/art magazine
On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 09:37:26 -0500 Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When/if the Flash player launches, you'll be treated to coughexpansivecough 350 x 400 pixel images, which you browse by clicking on the corners of each page. Very non-intuitive navigation. It looks like you can click anywhere on the page and drag toward the middle of the magazine. It's *slightly* less irritating to turn the pages that way, but flash things like this are annoying. Ira -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
New Pentax Ad
Over at Ned Bunnell's web site: http://nedbunnell.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-k-ad.html Here's a comment I posted on it at dpreview: Well done. The contrast draws the eyes to the cameras, but the spilling liquid then draws the view to the martini.The martini associates Pentax DSLRs with a carefree, upper-income lifestyle. The message: Buy one of these cameras and you'll be associated with the socioeconomic class that spills martinis on costly gear. Perhaps the best ad I've seen for Pentax. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Photo Gallery Statistics
Most of those rejections have come on the peer voting - maybe 2 or 3 were rejected by the judges. Are you basing this on the time in the que? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Photo Gallery Statistics Well, I did the unpardonable - I took down all 53 of my photos. I had two in the collection. I have been slowly resubmitting my shots with the new voting in place. So far, the two that were in collection have been accepted, but not in collection. 9 that were in the gallery have been rejected. Most of those rejections have come on the peer voting - maybe 2 or 3 were rejected by the judges. In a weird sort of way, I feel better having almost all my work rejected. Before, I'm thinking that I had 53 in there and now everything is rejected. Now, I can just think that almost everything of mine is rejected, so at least it is consistent. I still haven't quite figured out the voting yet - it appears that if there is a huge wow factor, it might make it, but anything else, is very iffy. In some respects, this seems to be following a larger trend. One in which art is transcending photography. Try looking at all the photos on photo.net galleries based on popularity. Almost all the shots are s dramatic that they just don't hardly look like our planet - even people shots have heavy doctoring of lighting. Extreme skies and wild, saturated colors are the norm these days - even though where I live, I see that kind of thing maybe once every few years. I seem to be rambling...must be one of those days. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, February 29, 2008, 10:50:35 AM, you wrote: JD 'prox 4000 images divided by 1900 photogs = 2 images ea. JD '680= 6 (seems more JD logical). JD If there are some 4000 voters, the yes/no vote should be considered on JD the basis of the ratio and not the count, as was initially stated. JD May help explain the high reject level. JD Jack JD --- AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A couple of observations: Bunnell writes: 1900 photographers. Photographers list in gallery counts 680. Which means there are more than 1200 *unpublished* photographers casting votes. Interesting. Bunnell writes: max submitted photos from one photographer: 133 No photographer in the gallery have that many published. Some guy has at least 70 photos in the voting queue, and I'm dead certain it's not me... (yeah, I've got one of those days again... too much time and too little to do...) Jostein 2008/2/28, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just noticed that Ned Bunnell has posted some statistics (pdf files) about the gallery on his Blog. http://nedbunnell.blogspot.com/2008/02/pentax-photo-gallery.html One file shows a break down of contributors by Country. Not surprisingly, the USA is well out in front but Oz contributors are doing well and bringing up third place. The other file lists the most popular lenses used. Cheers Brian the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cotty is a ......
What is GFM? :D I am silly europian you know... :P BTW, we could make a list about the listmembers' locations. .timber Mark Roberts wrote: End of May. Beginning of GFM week :) BTW: Tickets for GFM go on sale in 30 days. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cotty is a ......
On 1/3/08, Timber, discombobulated, unleashed: What is GFM? :D I am silly europian you know... :P It's okay, just a silly American thang ;-) http://www.grandfather-mountain.com/planning_your_visit/events/nphoto.php HTH -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 16 - GDG
Nice portrait, Godders. He's perfectly resting in that great spot of natural light. You couldn't have planned it better. Really makes his eyes pop out, even in this smallish rendering. Great capture. -Brendan --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another photo available for viewing ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/16-pensive.jpg Pensive Moment - This Cafe Life 2008 Panasonic L1 + Vario-Elmarit-D 14-50/2.8-3.5 ASPH OIS ISO 160 @ f/3.5 @ 1/25 sec, fl=44mm Comments and critique always appreciated. :-) enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Toronto the Good?
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/02/29 Fri PM 09:12:15 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Toronto the Good? On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:30 PM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to invest in a Stihl saw. Eh? A nifty device for removing stubborn lampposts. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Another K20D Pic
That's really, really good for 1600. Color me impressed. What about color noise at 1600, much worse? Oh, nice shot too, Paul. -Brendan --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This one is at ISO 1600, weak noise reduction, FA 50/1.4, f2 1/30th. Cropped to about 60$ of frame. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7007067 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Online photography/art magazine
Ira H. Bryant IV wrote: On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 09:37:26 -0500 Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When/if the Flash player launches, you'll be treated to coughexpansivecough 350 x 400 pixel images, which you browse by clicking on the corners of each page. Very non-intuitive navigation. It looks like you can click anywhere on the page and drag toward the middle of the magazine. It's *slightly* less irritating to turn the pages that way, but flash things like this are annoying. Fortunately, you don't have to drag: Just click once at a corner and the page will turn. Do you have the sound turned on for your computer? Every page turn is accompanied by the *sound* of a page turning. That's just embarrassing. I've just written a review of the site in my blog: http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=27 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax Ad
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well done. The contrast draws the eyes to the cameras, but the spilling Yeah, but did they *have* to talk about megapixels? Sigh... -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Need advice about 300mm 2.8 (I'm a lucky dog)
Yesterday I turned 5. And my mommy and daddy gave me a card that said: 300mm F2.8 I just about exploded! I've taken tens of thousands of bird photos over the last few years, all with a good but not quite well suited K200mm 2.5. So now the question is which one should I get? Have any of you used one of the old Tamron 300mm f2.8? Are they A enabled or is it green button material? And when they say for canon FD or for something else, does that just mean it has that adapter on it? Or are they mount specific? how about the older Tokina telephotos? Are they good (and cheapish)? Any suggestions on this would be muchly appreciated! Yours truly, Francis (a Canadian) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax Ad
Tim Bray wrote: On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well done. The contrast draws the eyes to the cameras, but the spilling Yeah, but did they *have* to talk about megapixels? Of course. It's the law. ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
any Pentax folks in Boston?
Nate and I need to go up to Boston next weekend for a night. We're staying in Brookline. Are there any Pentax people up there? Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Friday wanted: Optio S series camera
Hi Mat, I asked myself the same question some days ago... I ended up with wanting to take a closer look at the A30 or A40 or the S12... I had the S10 in my hands but you had to use a maginfying glass to find the on/off button and the one with the touchscreen was horrible ^_- ... but luckily I managed to repair my Optio S so I think I stick to the orignal... it makes decent pictures and the only thing that seems to be better with the new ones is that they are faster... ~Katrin Am 29 Feb 2008 um 12:59 hat Mat Maessen geschrieben: I'm looking for one of the little Optios. The pocketable ones, fit in an Altoids tin, etc., etc. I've been missing my old Optio S since its untimely loss a year ago. Help me fill in a missing void in my life? -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. ** Desert Rose Chris' Katrin's X Japan homepage! Please visit it! http://www.desertrose.de From now on I will try to live for you and for me. I will live with love...with dreams... and forever with tears.. ** -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Photo Gallery Statistics
From: Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/02/29 Fri PM 09:49:34 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Photo Gallery Statistics Most of those rejections have come on the peer voting - maybe 2 or 3 were rejected by the judges. Are you basing this on the time in the que? Quién está en la primera base. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax Ad
Yeah, but did they *have* to talk about megapixels? Yes!!! It's the high megapixel count that makes the K20D a possible success story. I wouldn't even mention the weather sealing. Definitely no reference required to the quality of the pictures!! I worked out that a full frame sensor with the same density of pixels would be around almost 33 megapixels. That would relegate Sony to games, Canon to photocopiers and Cotty to emergency admissions at his local hospital to use their stomach pump. We can always dream I suppose Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Online photography/art magazine
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/01 Sat PM 07:51:16 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Online photography/art magazine Ira H. Bryant IV wrote: On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 09:37:26 -0500 Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When/if the Flash player launches, you'll be treated to coughexpansivecough 350 x 400 pixel images, which you browse by clicking on the corners of each page. Very non-intuitive navigation. It looks like you can click anywhere on the page and drag toward the middle of the magazine. It's *slightly* less irritating to turn the pages that way, but flash things like this are annoying. Fortunately, you don't have to drag: Just click once at a corner and the page will turn. Do you have the sound turned on for your computer? Every page turn is accompanied by the *sound* of a page turning. That's just embarrassing. I've just written a review of the site in my blog: http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=27 It's even worse than that. I am currently browsing on a borrowed laptop. This has the usual all included, all on situation so, unusually, I can view Flash sites. I had a look at Antidull and lasted about 30 seconds. Highly annoyingly, it seems to override the volume you have set (OFF!) on your machine. Saw your further comments and decided to give it both barrels. Went back to the site and it doesn't want to let me in. Maybe it has taken the hump because I didn't plough all the way through first time. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need advice about 300mm 2.8 (I'm a lucky dog)
On 1/3/08, Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: how about the older Tokina telephotos? Are they good (and cheapish)? I had a manual focus Tokina 300 2.8 for a while, it was a fabulous lens. Pic on this page of it attached to an LX: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/pdml/index.html second row from bottom -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Toronto the Good?
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/01 Sat PM 08:41:36 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Toronto the Good? On 1/3/08, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: A nifty device for removing stubborn lampposts. Sorta like the clone tool in real life :) Photochop. And cheaper than Adobe products, too. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need advice about 300mm 2.8 (I'm a lucky dog)
From: Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/01 Sat PM 07:59:08 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Need advice about 300mm 2.8 (I'm a lucky dog) Yesterday I turned 5. And my mommy and daddy gave me a card that said: 300mm F2.8 I just about exploded! I've taken tens of thousands of bird photos over the last few years, all with a good but not quite well suited K200mm 2.5. So now the question is which one should I get? Have any of you used one of the old Tamron 300mm f2.8? Are they A enabled or is it green button material? And when they say for canon FD or for something else, does that just mean it has that adapter on it? Or are they mount specific? how about the older Tokina telephotos? Are they good (and cheapish)? Any suggestions on this would be muchly appreciated! Happy birthday. The Tamron is an excellent lens, so close in imaging capabilities to the Pentax in everything but price that you will find it difficult to distinguish between them. The manual focus version uses an adaptor mount that allows you to choose between A, M or screwmount Pentax cameras. Or most other popular mounts. The adaptors are about £50 new but not so easy to find like that, these days. You can get an AF version that will work with all present Pentax DSLRs. Or you could get the Pentax AF 1.7 converter and the manual version.. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Toronto the Good?
On 1/3/08, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: A nifty device for removing stubborn lampposts. Sorta like the clone tool in real life :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Toronto the Good?
mike wilson wrote: From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/01 Sat PM 08:41:36 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Toronto the Good? On 1/3/08, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: A nifty device for removing stubborn lampposts. Sorta like the clone tool in real life :) Photochop. And cheaper than Adobe products, too. What *isn't* cheaper than Adobe products? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Online photography/art magazine
I like your description of Flash as a bacteria that almost everyone has but only makes a few people sick. Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/1/2008 2:51 PM Ira H. Bryant IV wrote: On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 09:37:26 -0500 Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When/if the Flash player launches, you'll be treated to coughexpansivecough 350 x 400 pixel images, which you browse by clicking on the corners of each page. Very non-intuitive navigation. It looks like you can click anywhere on the page and drag toward the middle of the magazine. It's *slightly* less irritating to turn the pages that way, but flash things like this are annoying. Fortunately, you don't have to drag: Just click once at a corner and the page will turn. Do you have the sound turned on for your computer? Every page turn is accompanied by the *sound* of a page turning. That's just embarrassing. I've just written a review of the site in my blog: http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=27 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:47c9b60c69101688940233! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO -- Hot Panda
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/Galleries/HotPanda/ It's probably not what you can imagine it is... :) Photos taken with K10D @ ISO 1600, with S-M-C Takumar 50mm f/1.4 and Super-Takumar 105mm f/2.8. Yes, screwmount manual focus lenses with stop-down metering... it can be done! ;) Comments and critiques welcome. Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: ROTFLMAO
The original article called it a chihuahua in the headline but a silky terrier cross in the text. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney, Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ Quoting P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would think even an excited terrier would know a pythons mouth isn't a burrow. Wasn't the dog described as a Chihuahua in the news story, where the it being a Terrier of any kind come from? -- Finally - A spam blocker that actually works. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/4 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Online photography/art magazine
My favorite quote about flash is that it's a problem masquerading as a solution. Steve Desjardins wrote: I like your description of Flash as a bacteria that almost everyone has but only makes a few people sick. Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/1/2008 2:51 PM Ira H. Bryant IV wrote: On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 09:37:26 -0500 Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When/if the Flash player launches, you'll be treated to coughexpansivecough 350 x 400 pixel images, which you browse by clicking on the corners of each page. Very non-intuitive navigation. It looks like you can click anywhere on the page and drag toward the middle of the magazine. It's *slightly* less irritating to turn the pages that way, but flash things like this are annoying. Fortunately, you don't have to drag: Just click once at a corner and the page will turn. Do you have the sound turned on for your computer? Every page turn is accompanied by the *sound* of a page turning. That's just embarrassing. I've just written a review of the site in my blog: http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=27 -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Antarctica Slide Scan
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Lake-Vanda-Antarctica.jpg This is one of the slides I had scanned at Costco. It shows Dr. Sam Travis, Univ. of Nebraska (1977) pointing out Lake Vanda in the Dry Valleys, Antarctica. It had been so long that I had viewed some of these slides I am slowly recollecting some of the places and people involved. Damn sure is terrible to get so old and forgetful! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Online photography/art magazine
P. J. Alling wrote: Steve Desjardins wrote: I like your description of Flash as a bacteria that almost everyone has but only makes a few people sick. My favorite quote about flash is that it's a problem masquerading as a solution. One must always bow before the wisdom of Mike Wilson. :) Still, I do like to think my bacteria simile captures some of the insidious, infective nature of Flash. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Antarctica Slide Scan
Walter Hamler wrote: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Lake-Vanda-Antarctica.jpg This is one of the slides I had scanned at Costco. It shows Dr. Sam Travis, Univ. of Nebraska (1977) pointing out Lake Vanda in the Dry Valleys, Antarctica. Very nice! Although it looks as if it wants the caption, Some day son, all this will be yours! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Antarctica Slide Scan
Wow! Evan On Mar 1, 2008, at 5:19 PM, Walter Hamler wrote: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Lake-Vanda- Antarctica.jpg This is one of the slides I had scanned at Costco. It shows Dr. Sam Travis, Univ. of Nebraska (1977) pointing out Lake Vanda in the Dry Valleys, Antarctica. It had been so long that I had viewed some of these slides I am slowly recollecting some of the places and people involved. Damn sure is terrible to get so old and forgetful! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need advice about 300mm 2.8 (I'm a lucky dog)
Francis wrote: Yesterday I turned 5. And my mommy and daddy gave me a card that said: 300mm F2.8 I just about exploded! I've taken tens of thousands of bird photos over the last few years, all with a good but not quite well suited K200mm 2.5. So now the question is which one should I get? Have any of you used one of the old Tamron 300mm f2.8? Are they A enabled or is it green button material? And when they say for canon FD or for something else, does that just mean it has that adapter on it? Or are they mount specific? how about the older Tokina telephotos? Are they good (and cheapish)? Any suggestions on this would be muchly appreciated! First suggestion: Find an FA*300/2.8 somewhere! They're still out there on the second-hand market. I'm very happy with my Sigma EX 300/2.8 APO and the latest version is supposedly optimized for digital (though I've always been a bit skeptical of that designation). And I've heard that Sigma's 120-300 f/2.8 zoom is *really* good. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Online photography/art magazine
Mark Roberts wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: Steve Desjardins wrote: I like your description of Flash as a bacteria that almost everyone has but only makes a few people sick. My favorite quote about flash is that it's a problem masquerading as a solution. One must always bow before the wisdom of Mike Wilson. :) Still, I do like to think my bacteria simile captures some of the insidious, infective nature of Flash. I remember saying that a Vincent was a collection of solutions looking for problems but I don't remember saying that. I must be smarter than I thought. I think the bacteria simile is better. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Antarctica Slide Scan
On 1/3/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Although it looks as if it wants the caption, Some day son, all this will be yours! What, the curtains?? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Online photography/art magazine
mike wilson wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: Steve Desjardins wrote: I like your description of Flash as a bacteria that almost everyone has but only makes a few people sick. My favorite quote about flash is that it's a problem masquerading as a solution. One must always bow before the wisdom of Mike Wilson. :) Still, I do like to think my bacteria simile captures some of the insidious, infective nature of Flash. I remember saying that a Vincent was a collection of solutions looking for problems but I don't remember saying that. I must be smarter than I thought. Oops. I just checked and it turns out it was John Forbes (http://www.robertstech.com/quot2005.htm). But it *sounds* Mike Wilson-ish. I think the bacteria simile is better. What we need is a WHO-style eradication program... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Toronto the Good?
On 1/3/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: What *isn't* cheaper than Adobe products? Apple products. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Antarctica Slide Scan
Pretty descent scan. Like the depth, color and comp. You too? ;) Jack --- Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Lake-Vanda-Antarctica.jpg This is one of the slides I had scanned at Costco. It shows Dr. Sam Travis, Univ. of Nebraska (1977) pointing out Lake Vanda in the Dry Valleys, Antarctica. It had been so long that I had viewed some of these slides I am slowly recollecting some of the places and people involved. Damn sure is terrible to get so old and forgetful! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PPG Brain Damaged Voting System
I complained about the voting interface to them half a year ago. Having a clue how much work it will be to change it, I'd happily settle for larger thumbnails. Twice the size would improve things much, imvho. Jostein 2008/3/1, Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My assessment of the Pentax Photo Gallery is that it encourages brain-damaged snap judgements. It provides 5 thumbnails at a time, and viewers must vote on all images before getting to the next set. There's no way to skip voting on any images, and there's no neutral vote. Viewers don't have to even look at full sized images before voting on them. It's just too easy to vote thumbs down on everything, particularly images that don't represent well in tiny thumbnails but may be breathtaking when viewed full size. My recommendation would be to show voters more thumbnails, and require images to be viewed full size for, say, 15 seconds before allowing a vote to be recorded. Just thoughts -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Photo Gallery Statistics
2008/3/1, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Are you basing this on the time in the que? Quién está en la primera base. Prima, Basil. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax Ad
On Mar 1, 2008, at 2:58 PM, Tim Bray wrote: On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well done. The contrast draws the eyes to the cameras, but the spilling Yeah, but did they *have* to talk about megapixels? Sigh... -T Yes. While megapixel count isn't the only important factor in determining the worth of a camera, it's still a buzz word for the vast majority of consumers. And the K20D does offer an advantage in this regard over most competitors -- without a noise penalty. That's quite an achievement. They also mention shake reduction and, of course, weather sealing. It's a great ad, but it would be a lesser ad without any mention of megapixel count. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K20D focus adjustment
It's easy. I adjusted focus for my FA 50/1.4. It was definitely front focusing on this camera and required a -4 adjustment. The DA 50-200 was right on. Those are the only two lenses I've checked thus far. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
and the watsit slowly moves forward:
I suppose this is a GESO while it is the future home of my PESO's http://thodun.sasktelwebsite.net/Bran's%20P.E.S.O./index.html any comments are welcome on the site and Photos Bran -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Handlebars
The coffee shop portraits. Handlebars http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7009901 K20D, DA 50-200, heavy backlight, f5.6, 1/160th, ISO 1000, weak noise reduction -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Antarctica Slide Scan
Cotty wrote: On 1/3/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Although it looks as if it wants the caption, Some day son, all this will be yours! What, the curtains?? I thought Mike Wilson would be first with that line... ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Antarctica Slide Scan
Yes, I am very happy with the scans. Of the 500 that I have had scanned so far almost all of them look great with further PP. The majority are from K64 slides, some Ektachrome 64. They have all been stored in archival sleeves in dark storage conditions. Walt On 3/1/08, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pretty descent scan. Like the depth, color and comp. You too? ;) Jack --- Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Lake-Vanda-Antarctica.jpg This is one of the slides I had scanned at Costco. It shows Dr. Sam Travis, Univ. of Nebraska (1977) pointing out Lake Vanda in the Dry Valleys, Antarctica. It had been so long that I had viewed some of these slides I am slowly recollecting some of the places and people involved. Damn sure is terrible to get so old and forgetful! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Antarctica Slide Scan
Darn!! That should be without further PP. Walt On 3/1/08, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I am very happy with the scans. Of the 500 that I have had scanned so far almost all of them look great with further PP. The majority are from K64 slides, some Ektachrome 64. They have all been stored in archival sleeves in dark storage conditions. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - Any Folkies?
Never been a folkie, and I was surprised to learn that Richard Thompson (once of Fairport Convention) and Hugh Cornwell of The Stranglers were at school together, and in a school band. Seems like a strange combination. Bob By chance I was watching a bit of it tonight with a glass of wine. It's not bad at all. Great fun to work on. I was disappointed because when we filmed the interview with Chris Leslie, and we chatted for a while, he was keen to see my Weber mando that I got from Montana, so I said I'd bring it the next day, which I did, but everyone was so busy and we never had two minutes spare at the same time, so it will have to wait til a different year. They're a terrific bunch of musicians - as you know - but also a terrific bunch of people. Simon Nichols tells the best jokes on the planet - totally unrepeatable here ;-) Glad you enjoyed it. Yous hould come across for the festival one August! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Handlebars
How far away were you? Can't tell if he is looking at you or is oblivous to you and camera. Good capture. Walt On 3/1/08, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The coffee shop portraits. Handlebars http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7009901 K20D, DA 50-200, heavy backlight, f5.6, 1/160th, ISO 1000, weak noise reduction -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need advice about 300mm 2.8 (I'm a lucky dog)
Happy Birthday! I think you're talking about an Adaptall, and-yeah, I think I saw some recently in eBay. The tough part is finding the adapter for it, especially the PKA (with the A function) which may very cost more than the 300mm... Better look for an FA* ... Bong On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:59 AM, Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday I turned 5. And my mommy and daddy gave me a card that said: 300mm F2.8 I just about exploded! I've taken tens of thousands of bird photos over the last few years, all with a good but not quite well suited K200mm 2.5. So now the question is which one should I get? Have any of you used one of the old Tamron 300mm f2.8? Are they A enabled or is it green button material? And when they say for canon FD or for something else, does that just mean it has that adapter on it? Or are they mount specific? how about the older Tokina telephotos? Are they good (and cheapish)? Any suggestions on this would be muchly appreciated! Yours truly, Francis (a Canadian) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax Ad
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: New Pentax Ad Well done. The contrast draws the eyes to the cameras, but the spilling Yeah, but did they *have* to talk about megapixels? Of course. It's the law. ;-) It's also what consumers have been programmed to key on. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Antarctica Slide Scan
- Original Message - From: Walter Hamler Subject: PESO: Antarctica Slide Scan Damn sure is terrible to get so old and forgetful! The alternatives are not any better. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Toronto the Good?
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: PESO - Toronto the Good? What *isn't* cheaper than Adobe products? must resist saying anything about anyones wives. /must resist WW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Handlebars
Thanks Walt. I was about ten feet away. I don't think he saw me. Paul -- Original message -- From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] How far away were you? Can't tell if he is looking at you or is oblivous to you and camera. Good capture. Walt On 3/1/08, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The coffee shop portraits. Handlebars http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7009901 K20D, DA 50-200, heavy backlight, f5.6, 1/160th, ISO 1000, weak noise reduction -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: The dollar and ebay sales
My current ebay sales are going very well with more than an hour to go. Everything will sell. The M 35/2 already has six bidders, and it's over a hundred dollars. The vivitar 70-210, which failed to sell last time I posted it, is at about $80. Both are now going for more than I purchased them for. The *istD, the battery grip and the Sigma flash will sell as well. The battery grip has already been bid up to close to new price. The buyers? All in Europe. Two in Italy, two in France, one in Poland. Taking advantage of the weak dollar. A good thing for us Americanos:-). Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K20D PEF Files On a Mac?
Does anyone know how to convert PEF files to DNG's? I can't get the freakin' Pentax software to install on my Mac. Lightroom can't read em, nor can PS3/Bridge or Bibble. Thanks, Jay -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D PEF Files On a Mac?
I just shoot DNG. No problem. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jay Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone know how to convert PEF files to DNG's? I can't get the freakin' Pentax software to install on my Mac. Lightroom can't read em, nor can PS3/Bridge or Bibble. Thanks, Jay -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PPG Brain Damaged Voting System
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 5:19 PM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I complained about the voting interface to them half a year ago. Having a clue how much work it will be to change it, I'd happily settle for larger thumbnails. Twice the size would improve things much, imvho. I strongly agree. While voting I look at each image at the larger size but it is extremely clunky and slow to do so. As a result I don't vote very often. Cymen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D PEF Files On a Mac?
Do you have the latest version of Adobe's Camera RAW installed? Adobe's usually very good about keeping up to date on the various RAW formats, and PEF has been around for a while nowin fact, Lightroom can read all the PEFs from my old *stD On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Jay Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know how to convert PEF files to DNG's? I can't get the freakin' Pentax software to install on my Mac. Lightroom can't read em, nor can PS3/Bridge or Bibble. Thanks, Jay -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K10D + DA* 16-50 report with samples
I finally got a couple of hours to take my new K10D and DA* 16-50 out into the field. I took some shots of Oak trees on the eastern edge of the Sacramento valley (along Ione Road south of Hwy 16). Here's a sample: http://www.westerickson.net/misc/ValleyOak.jpg This started out as a DNG raw. I pulled it into Photoshop CS2 with pretty nominal settings, then used the channel mixer to convert to black and white. I did not apply any Photoshop sharpening. I thought that it was pretty impressive at first glance--sharp, clean, and with good dynamic range. The image in the link is a straightforward downsize with no subsequent sharpening. So I went pixel-peeping. Here are 100% crops of the lower left corner, center, and lower right corner: http://www.westerickson.net/misc/LeftCenterRight.jpg To me, the grass on the right is noticably mushier than the grass on the left. I've looked at a few other images and I see the same kind of behavior. I guess this is the dreaded decentering defect. Also, when I shoot near the long end of the zoom, the autofocus is very accurate. When I try to autofocus on distant objects at 16mm, the camera seems to immediately give up and default to about 10 feet (3 meters) or so. Autofocus seems ok for nearer objects. I'll have to mount this lens on my *ist-Ds to see if it's a K10D thing. Thoughts? --Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D PEF Files On a Mac?
It's not updated for the K20D yet. -Adam On 3/1/08, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have the latest version of Adobe's Camera RAW installed? Adobe's usually very good about keeping up to date on the various RAW formats, and PEF has been around for a while nowin fact, Lightroom can read all the PEFs from my old *stD On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Jay Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know how to convert PEF files to DNG's? I can't get the freakin' Pentax software to install on my Mac. Lightroom can't read em, nor can PS3/Bridge or Bibble. Thanks, Jay -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D PEF Files On a Mac?
The K20D .pef formt is different enought that ACR doesn't know what to do with them. I'm waiting for an Adobe update as ACR doesn't seem to handle the RAW files as well as the supplied Pentax software (urgh) Cheers, Dave On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have the latest version of Adobe's Camera RAW installed? Adobe's usually very good about keeping up to date on the various RAW formats, and PEF has been around for a while nowin fact, Lightroom can read all the PEFs from my old *stD On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Jay Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know how to convert PEF files to DNG's? I can't get the freakin' Pentax software to install on my Mac. Lightroom can't read em, nor can PS3/Bridge or Bibble. Thanks, Jay -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PPG Brain Damaged Voting System
I personally believe people spend too much time thinking about this gallery... Dave On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 2:42 AM, Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My assessment of the Pentax Photo Gallery is that it encourages brain-damaged snap judgements. It provides 5 thumbnails at a time, and viewers must vote on all images before getting to the next set. There's no way to skip voting on any images, and there's no neutral vote. Viewers don't have to even look at full sized images before voting on them. It's just too easy to vote thumbs down on everything, particularly images that don't represent well in tiny thumbnails but may be breathtaking when viewed full size. My recommendation would be to show voters more thumbnails, and require images to be viewed full size for, say, 15 seconds before allowing a vote to be recorded. Just thoughts -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: The dollar and ebay sales
The auctions have ended. While Europeans bid everything up, US buyers took three of my five auctions. One went to a Canadian, one to a fellow in Italy. Of interest: The *istD went for $290, the bater grip for $110. The M 35/2 went for $139.50 Paul -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My current ebay sales are going very well with more than an hour to go. Everything will sell. The M 35/2 already has six bidders, and it's over a hundred dollars. The vivitar 70-210, which failed to sell last time I posted it, is at about $80. Both are now going for more than I purchased them for. The *istD, the battery grip and the Sigma flash will sell as well. The battery grip has already been bid up to close to new price. The buyers? All in Europe. Two in Italy, two in France, one in Poland. Taking advantage of the weak dollar. A good thing for us Americanos:-). Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cotty is a ......
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:38 AM, Timber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is GFM? :D I am silly europian you know... :P BTW, we could make a list about the listmembers' locations. We could but its too much effort... http://www.frappr.com/pdml Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D PEF Files On a Mac?
ACR works splendidly with the K20D DNG files. Paul -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K20D .pef formt is different enought that ACR doesn't know what to do with them. I'm waiting for an Adobe update as ACR doesn't seem to handle the RAW files as well as the supplied Pentax software (urgh) Cheers, Dave On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have the latest version of Adobe's Camera RAW installed? Adobe's usually very good about keeping up to date on the various RAW formats, and PEF has been around for a while nowin fact, Lightroom can read all the PEFs from my old *stD On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Jay Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know how to convert PEF files to DNG's? I can't get the freakin' Pentax software to install on my Mac. Lightroom can't read em, nor can PS3/Bridge or Bibble. Thanks, Jay -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D PEF Files On a Mac?
Not IMO. Pics processed with Pentax Photo lab, especially high ISO shots, have their noise controlled much better Shame that the program is such a PITA to use. CHeers, Dave On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 12:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ACR works splendidly with the K20D DNG files. Paul -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K20D .pef formt is different enought that ACR doesn't know what to do with them. I'm waiting for an Adobe update as ACR doesn't seem to handle the RAW files as well as the supplied Pentax software (urgh) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D PEF Files On a Mac?
Pentax Photo Lab processed shots may look less noisy, but they lose detail as well. If you saw the 1600 ISO shots I posted, I think you'd have to agree that they're coparable to ISO 400 K10D shots in terms of noise -- with no loss of detail. They're all ACR processed. I have never seen any benefit to using the Pentax software. In the past or now. ACR used correctly -- or lightroom, which is the same code -- is far superior. Paul -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not IMO. Pics processed with Pentax Photo lab, especially high ISO shots, have their noise controlled much better Shame that the program is such a PITA to use. CHeers, Dave On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 12:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ACR works splendidly with the K20D DNG files. Paul -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K20D .pef formt is different enought that ACR doesn't know what to do with them. I'm waiting for an Adobe update as ACR doesn't seem to handle the RAW files as well as the supplied Pentax software (urgh) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
