Re: PESO: Whitlock Cabin

2009-03-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/19/2009 2:05:05 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
jdavi...@yahoo.com writes:
Wife and I took a country  drive this PM looking for photo targets of 
opportunity.
This cabin is off of  hwy 70 (for the area folks) just as one begins the 
climb up and through the  Feather River Canyon. Beautiful, steep, winding, 
'thrilling' drive..depending  upon the road/weather conditions.

Jack

K20,  DA*50~135

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=391

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While  I like the cabin, naturally, (all that dilapidation and rust), it 
bothers me the  hill line is so close to the roof line. I think I'd like it 
better 
behind the  roof line, closer, or much higher than the roof line (different  
angle).

HTH, Marnie aka Doe  :-)
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Re: East Side, Vancouver

2009-03-20 Thread Tim Bray
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 According to a PIVOT legal society poll, Vancouver's Downtown East Side has
 the poorest postal code in all of Canada. 

 http://www.foto8.com/home/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=812Item
 id=136

I live nearby.  Here are some words to go with those pictures:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/04/10/Downtown%20Eastside

Man, that hurts to look. -T




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Re: Paparazzi or street shooter?

2009-03-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/19/2009 5:57:41 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
maritim...@gmail.com writes:
Found three fascinating  video clips about a young man Carl Størmer who
photographed young girls and  celebrities with a hidden camera at the
streets of Oslo in 1893-96. For some  obscure reason he ended his
street photography after 3 years.
The camera  he used had a disk of six circular frames. He his it under
his vest, and  often approached his victim with a smile.

The third clip shows a gost  like image of author Henrik Ibsen. Carl
Størmer must have been very fasinated  by Ibsen, he is the subject in
eight  pictures.

http://www.dagbladet.no/2009/03/19/magasinet/dokumentar/fotografi/film/ibsen/5
351234/
There  are three film clips here. Hopefully you will be able to find
them at this  norwegian page.
The red rectangle in ULH shows the clips into full  screen.

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This was very  interesting, thanks for sharing. What he used was so weird 
looking, sort of an  old-fashioned PS that I wonder if all the people he 
approached KNEW it was  a camera. Most look like they did, but still I wonder.

Street  photography, obviously, goes way back.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: PESO: Belgian nights in b/w

2009-03-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/19/2009 3:46:50 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
fotor...@gmx.de writes:
I'm scanning my way through  loads of film from the last years. Just the
right thing to do to kill the  long evening hours while I'm sneezing and
coughing my way through a nasty  cold HE has brought home from the gym.
Sports, I tell you...  Churchill  was quite  right!

Anyway:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/16402961

As  always... :-)

Aaaatchoum!!!  Sniff...

Ralf

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Interesting to see you can be just as  dramatic in BW. I really like this, 
maybe not as bold as some of your  shots, but all the lines are interesting.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: small GESO from NorCal PDML in Sacramento

2009-03-20 Thread Tim Bray
I like them... elegant and gritty all at once.  Thanks. -T

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Mark Erickson m...@westerickson.net wrote:
 No nipple shots or gear goonery here

 Just some detail shots from the little rail yard in old Sacramento.  I'm
 attracted to heavy, grimy weathered cast iron and steel as subjects.  Train
 tracks and rail car undercarriages have a lot of it to offer.

 I took these with my K10D and SMC-A 100mm F2.8 macro (Thanks Stan!).  I
 postprocessed them all with a digital lith workflow that I really like for
 bringing out texture and feel in iron, stone, and brick:

 http://www.westerickson.net/railiron/index.html

 As always, comments/critiques welcome.

 Thanks for Looking,

 Mark


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Re: PESO: a view from above

2009-03-20 Thread Luiz Felipe

Like the idea, would be tempted to return just before nightfall.

LF

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Re: PESO: Belgian nights in b/w

2009-03-20 Thread Luiz Felipe

Bless you... and a great pic - again. ;-)

LF

Ralf R. Radermacher escreveu:

I'm scanning my way through loads of film from the last years. Just the
right thing to do to kill the long evening hours while I'm sneezing and
coughing my way through a nasty cold HE has brought home from the gym.
Sports, I tell you...  Churchill was quite right!

Anyway:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/16402961

As always... :-)

Aaaatchoum!!! Sniff...

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Re: PESO: Spring

2009-03-20 Thread Luiz Felipe

Like it Jack! Keep shooting.

LF

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A little further up Hwy 70 toward the Feather River Canyon. Seems a so-so
definitive spring image..at least for these parts.

Jack

All comments welcomed.

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So - where are my shots from the NorCal meet?

2009-03-20 Thread John Francis

Answer - still on the hard drive, awaiting my attention.

Sunday we went over to Don Quixotes in Felton to catch a
show by Shay  Michael Black (2/3 of the Black Brothers).
See http://www.black-brothers.com if you don't know them.
That added a few more shots to the to do list.

Then on Monday I caught their show again in San Jose, by
invitation this time, which got me a few more possibles.

I'm stacking up images that need processing (including
picking a couple for my Picture-a-Week gallery).  Plus
there's this little thing called work, which needs some
of my time.  Add a couple of other things that are on
the honeydew list, and I'm all out of time.

Maybe next week ...


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Re: PESO: Whitlock Cabin

2009-03-20 Thread Luiz Felipe
Like it too - but would possibly frame it a little higher, to include 
more of the top of the tree and less of the foreground. Don't know, 
since I don't know the place, but would try.


LF

Jack Davis escreveu:

Wife and I took a country drive this PM looking for photo targets of 
opportunity.
This cabin is off of hwy 70 (for the area folks) just as one begins the climb 
up and through the Feather River Canyon. Beautiful, steep, winding, 'thrilling' 
drive..depending upon the road/weather conditions.

Jack

K20, DA*50~135

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=391


  


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Re: East Side, Vancouver

2009-03-20 Thread Luiz Felipe
Those are very strong images indeed. Thank you for sharing - the best 
dreams have no sense without the nightmares. Really hope there is a way 
to improve their situation.


LF

Bob W escreveu:

According to a PIVOT legal society poll, Vancouver's Downtown East Side has
the poorest postal code in all of Canada. 

http://www.foto8.com/home/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=812Item
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Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-20 Thread Tim Bray
Mmm nice, catch a compelling face and almost anything around it and
you've got a good pic. -T

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 The St. Patrick's Day Parade just finished rolling past my work building
 here in St. Paul (a pretty Irish town!).

 This vendor... I dunno, something about his expression and what he was
 wearing just caught my eye:

 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2009/st_patricks_day/content/IMGP9223_large.html

 And of course if you want to see all 17 photos from the gallery you can
 start here:

 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2009/st_patricks_day/


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Re: small GESO from NorCal PDML in Sacramento

2009-03-20 Thread Luiz Felipe

Very good work Mark - thanks for posting.

LF

Mark Erickson escreveu:

No nipple shots or gear goonery here

Just some detail shots from the little rail yard in old Sacramento.  I'm
attracted to heavy, grimy weathered cast iron and steel as subjects.  Train
tracks and rail car undercarriages have a lot of it to offer.

I took these with my K10D and SMC-A 100mm F2.8 macro (Thanks Stan!).  I
postprocessed them all with a digital lith workflow that I really like for
bringing out texture and feel in iron, stone, and brick: 


http://www.westerickson.net/railiron/index.html

As always, comments/critiques welcome.

Thanks for Looking, 


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New gear, but now I have a decision to make...

2009-03-20 Thread Luiz Felipe

Well, just bought a *ist DS with the 18~55, and one of these days I'll
get to receive it... the price we pay for that lovely and cheap address
not too close to the sea ;-)

But the new (for me, at least) camera means my 35mm gear repair schedule
is on hold for some time, and maybe for good. I'm facing a tough choice
- wich cameras to keep, wich cameras to let go - and where. I have,
currently on sick bay:

Mx body, exterior good, broken diaphragm lever, a single risk on the
lensmount and shutter erratic. Pentax techs in Sao Paulo believe they
can repair it. It's my second Mx body, bought as is for $30. Keep it for
parts?

Lx body, auto off, mirror working ok but needing alignment, exterior
fair. Techs say it's possible, but not probable to make it work. I'm
deeply attached to this camera, bought in 1981 and used all around the
world, but not as display model. Try to sell it, but what price?

Pz1p body, damaged shutter, broken and repaired bottom plate. Techs say
parts available, no big deal. Just some cash I'm not ready to pay for a
while. Repair it later or just spend the cash on other things Pentax?
Gift from a friend currently using Canon.

I'm watching BR ebay-like sites, and right now is the wrong time to sell
anything 35mm around here - Pentax in particular. Problem aggravated by
the fact those cameras are not working and Pentax tech in BR is not so
near. I really don't know what to do.

Any ideas? Please???

PS: since I can't rely on just one camera, I accepted as payment for
some old debts a Canon EOS 500n + 50mm 1.8 and 28~80 whatever, the
camera in fair condition but lenses very good. I'd like to sell it and
pay the repair of one or two of those cameras, but that means only one 
35mm camera until the repairs are successful (if). Or I could go the 
evil way and purchase the PK~EOS adapter and keep it - too bad I hate 
the damned viewfinder...


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Re: PESO - Modern Convenience?

2009-03-20 Thread Rick Womer

Well, leaving aside the ongoing evolution (or devolution) of the bookstore...

I like the photo.  Having the left side blown out nicely hides otherwise 
distracting detail, and the timing (as the man is touching the screen) is 
perfect.

Rick

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--- On Thu, 3/19/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO - Modern Convenience?
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 10:00 AM
 I prefer just going to the damned shelf to see if the
 book's there.
 Or asking a salesperson - oops, I mean sales
 associate...
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/modern-convenience.html
 
 Comments always welcome.
 
 cheers,
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Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...

2009-03-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/3/09, Luiz Felipe, discombobulated, unleashed:

broken diaphragm lever

You're talking about the *ist Ds, right?

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Re: PESO: a view from above

2009-03-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/3/09, Luka Knezevic-Strika, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3458/3369203594_e16d39223d_b.jpg

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Cars everywhere, but people take precedence. Nice.

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Re: small GESO from NorCal PDML in Sacramento

2009-03-20 Thread Rick Womer

These are very nice.  Could you tell us more about the digital lith workflow?

Rick

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--- On Fri, 3/20/09, Mark Erickson m...@westerickson.net wrote:

 From: Mark Erickson m...@westerickson.net
 Subject: small GESO from NorCal PDML in Sacramento
 To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 1:06 AM
 No nipple shots or gear goonery here
 
 Just some detail shots from the little rail yard in old
 Sacramento.  I'm
 attracted to heavy, grimy weathered cast iron and steel as
 subjects.  Train
 tracks and rail car undercarriages have a lot of it to
 offer.
 
 I took these with my K10D and SMC-A 100mm F2.8 macro
 (Thanks Stan!).  I
 postprocessed them all with a digital lith workflow that I
 really like for
 bringing out texture and feel in iron, stone, and brick: 
 
 http://www.westerickson.net/railiron/index.html
 
 As always, comments/critiques welcome.
 
 Thanks for Looking, 
 
 Mark
 
 
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Re: Peso Headstone

2009-03-20 Thread Rick Womer


Actually, it doesn't fall short; it's too tall to view on my 900-pixel-tall 
monitor without scrolling...

I agree that it's a great concept that needs some playing with.

Rick

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 I'm afraid that this IR version falls a bit short for
 me.
 
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Re: PESO: a view from above

2009-03-20 Thread Rick Womer

Luka,

I like it.  What holds it together for me is the sprinkling of red cars and the 
red sign on the building on the left side.

Rick

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--- On Thu, 3/19/09, Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO: a view from above
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 7:17 PM
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3458/3369203594_e16d39223d_b.jpg
 
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Re: PESO: Whitlock Cabin

2009-03-20 Thread Rick Womer

What Luiz said; it might benefit from a polarizer, too.  I really like the 
contrast between the lush spring green and the dry weathered wood.

Rick

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--- On Fri, 3/20/09, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote:


 Like it too - but would possibly frame it a little higher,
 to include more of the top of the tree and less of the
 foreground. Don't know, since I don't know the
 place, but would try.
 
 LF
 
 Jack Davis escreveu:
  Wife and I took a country drive this PM looking for
 photo targets of opportunity.
  This cabin is off of hwy 70 (for the area folks) just
 as one begins the climb up and through the Feather River
 Canyon. Beautiful, steep, winding, 'thrilling'
 drive..depending upon the road/weather conditions.
  
  Jack
  
  K20, DA*50~135
  
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=391
  
  

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RE: PESO: a view from above

2009-03-20 Thread Bob W
 p...@web-options.com writes:
 that's a perfect example  of equivocation. Abstraction in 
 painting refers to
 the removal (ie  abstraction) of representation  subject matter from
 paintings, leaving  only the formal properties of point, 
 line, surface,
 volume, space, form, tone  and colour. That's the type of 
 abstraction you
 refer to when you first use  the word - abstraction opposed to
 representation. 
 
 You then use  abstract in opposition to concrete, though I 
 question whether
 many of your  examples are abstract, such as emotions, wealth 
 and power. That
 is not what  abstraction in painting refers to. 
 
 Mondrian, Kandinsky, Pollock and  others are classic examples 
 of abstraction
 in painting. The purpose is  nothing to do with the concepts 
 you list (except
 in so far as art is a means  to wealth, power and strife!), rather the
 purpose is to make the formal  properties themselves the 
 subject of the work.
 
 This is not possible with  photography because of its 
 inherent relationship
 with subject matter and our  expectations that photographs are 'of'
 something. So-called abstract  photographs always end up as 
 some sort of
 party game where people try to  guess what they are of.
 
 Bob
 
 ===
 You refer, of course,  only to unmanipulated photographs.
 
 Marnie aka Doe  :-)
 

No, I don't.

Bob


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Re: PESO: Spring

2009-03-20 Thread Rick Womer

I like it.  One might try using a wider angle and getting down closer to the 
foreground flowers.

Rick

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--- On Thu, 3/19/09, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 Subject: PESO: Spring
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 5:29 PM
 A little further up Hwy 70 toward the Feather River Canyon.
 Seems a so-so
 definitive spring image..at least for these parts.
 
 Jack
 
 All comments welcomed.
 
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Re: Paparazzi or street shooter?

2009-03-20 Thread Tim Øsleby
I've never seen a similar camera.
According the voice in the clip it was called a detectives camera,
whatever that means.
He hid it under his west, with the lens sticking out of a button hole.
The third clip shows three pictures of a person who caught him red handed.

I think I can see a strong sense of timing in many of these pictures.

Later he moved on from capturing the fragrant smiles of young women,
and Henrik Ibsen strolling down the streets, to capturing the secrets
of Aorora solaris http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_St%C3%B8rmer

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2009/3/20  eactiv...@aol.com:
 In a message dated 3/19/2009 5:57:41 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
 maritim...@gmail.com writes:

 http://www.dagbladet.no/2009/03/19/magasinet/dokumentar/fotografi/film/ibsen/5
 351234/
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 ===
 This was very  interesting, thanks for sharing. What he used was so weird
 looking, sort of an  old-fashioned PS that I wonder if all the people he
 approached KNEW it was  a camera. Most look like they did, but still I wonder.

 Street  photography, obviously, goes way back.

 Marnie aka Doe  :-)


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Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-20 Thread mike wilson

 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: 
 On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  This guy is a good photographer
 ...
  Sadly, he's a Canon shooter...
 
 Your story doesn't make any sense.

Makes perfect sense.  A good photographer can use any old beater to produce 
quality work.  He has a series (gold, titanium, etc) of LXs at home.

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Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-20 Thread mike wilson

 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: 
 On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  This guy is a good photographer
 ...
  Sadly, he's a Canon shooter...
 
 Your story doesn't make any sense.

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Re: Spring

2009-03-20 Thread Jack Davis

Thanks for commenting, Christine.

Jack


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 Subject: Re: Spring
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 9:48 PM
 Hi Jack:  Both your PESOs today are very pleasant,
 especially Spring. 
 Cheers, Christine
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:29 PM
 Subject: PESO: Spring
 
 
 
  A little further up Hwy 70 toward the Feather River
 Canyon. Seems a so-so
  definitive spring image..at least for these parts.
 
  Jack
 
  All comments welcomed.
 
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=392
 
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Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
One thing i  have never had, is a customer come back to me, after
buying a day CD, and saying Wally mart etc would not print the photos.

Dave

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:34 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:

 - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist
 Subject: Re: Wedding photography, starting price?


 Agreed. It just never occurred to me that I should, and I'm a bit
 surprised that no one has had a problem buying prints.

 When I was still at the Wally-Lab I had several long and somewhat testy
 conversations with various of my co-drones about this very thing.
 The theory was that we couldn't print professional work, my take was that
 if the photographer had put a disc of full resolution files into his
 customer's hands, he wasn't really in a position to enforce copyright, were
 he so inclined.
 But, the fact that it even came up in conversation sensitized me to the
 problem that customers could run into with getting their own property
 printed if they ran into a sniveling idiot behind the counter.

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Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...

2009-03-20 Thread Toralf Lund

Luiz Felipe wrote:

Well, just bought a *ist DS with the 18~55, and one of these days I'll
get to receive it... the price we pay for that lovely and cheap address
not too close to the sea ;-) [ ... ]

I'm watching BR ebay-like sites, and right now is the wrong time to sell
anything 35mm around here - Pentax in particular.
Maybe this means that the best option is actually to buy another 35mm 
Pentax, i.e. one that works? Another MX, perhaps, since you may have a 
good parts camera for it already.



Problem aggravated by
the fact those cameras are not working and Pentax tech in BR is not so
near. I really don't know what to do.

Any ideas? Please???

PS: since I can't rely on just one camera, I accepted as payment for
some old debts a Canon EOS 500n + 50mm 1.8 and 28~80 whatever, the
camera in fair condition but lenses very good. I'd like to sell it and
pay the repair of one or two of those cameras, but that means only one 
35mm camera until the repairs are successful (if). Or I could go the 
evil way and purchase the PK~EOS adapter and keep it - too bad I hate 
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Re: PESO: Whitlock Cabin

2009-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
Good shot. Love the rusty roof and weather beated siding. Plus i like
old buildings to.:-)

Dave

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 Wife and I took a country drive this PM looking for photo targets of 
 opportunity.
 This cabin is off of hwy 70 (for the area folks) just as one begins the climb 
 up and through the Feather River Canyon. Beautiful, steep, winding, 
 'thrilling' drive..depending upon the road/weather conditions.

 Jack

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Re: small GESO from NorCal PDML in Sacramento

2009-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
How did you know I like train.s

Good set there. Good rendering and nice and clean shots.

Dave

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 No nipple shots or gear goonery here

 Just some detail shots from the little rail yard in old Sacramento.  I'm
 attracted to heavy, grimy weathered cast iron and steel as subjects.  Train
 tracks and rail car undercarriages have a lot of it to offer.

 I took these with my K10D and SMC-A 100mm F2.8 macro (Thanks Stan!).  I
 postprocessed them all with a digital lith workflow that I really like for
 bringing out texture and feel in iron, stone, and brick:

 http://www.westerickson.net/railiron/index.html

 As always, comments/critiques welcome.

 Thanks for Looking,

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Re: PESO: Whitlock Cabin

2009-03-20 Thread Jack Davis

Thanks, Rick!

Jack


--- On Fri, 3/20/09, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: Whitlock Cabin
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 1:36 AM
 What Luiz said; it might benefit from a polarizer, too.  I
 really like the contrast between the lush spring green and
 the dry weathered wood.
 
 Rick
 
 http://photo.net/photos/RickW
 
 
 --- On Fri, 3/20/09, Luiz Felipe
 luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote:
 
 
  Like it too - but would possibly frame it a little
 higher,
  to include more of the top of the tree and less of the
  foreground. Don't know, since I don't know the
  place, but would try.
  
  LF
  
  Jack Davis escreveu:
   Wife and I took a country drive this PM looking
 for
  photo targets of opportunity.
   This cabin is off of hwy 70 (for the area folks)
 just
  as one begins the climb up and through the Feather
 River
  Canyon. Beautiful, steep, winding, 'thrilling'
  drive..depending upon the road/weather conditions.
   
   Jack
   
   K20, DA*50~135
   
  
 
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Re: PESO: Spring

2009-03-20 Thread Jack Davis

Yeah, that would probably made a better shot. I couldn't get any closer 
physically (off the edge of the roadway and across a ditch), but I could have 
gotten a little lower and sucked it up some.

Thanks, Rick!

Jack


--- On Fri, 3/20/09, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: Spring
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 1:48 AM
 I like it.  One might try using a wider angle and getting
 down closer to the foreground flowers.
 
 Rick
 
 http://photo.net/photos/RickW
 
 
 --- On Thu, 3/19/09, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
  Subject: PESO: Spring
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 5:29 PM
  A little further up Hwy 70 toward the Feather River
 Canyon.
  Seems a so-so
  definitive spring image..at least for these parts.
  
  Jack
  
  All comments welcomed.
  
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=392
  
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Re: PESO: Whitlock Cabin

2009-03-20 Thread Jack Davis

Appreciate it, David!

Jack


--- On Fri, 3/20/09, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

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 Subject: Re: PESO: Whitlock Cabin
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 5:12 AM
 Good shot. Love the rusty roof and weather beated siding.
 Plus i like
 old buildings to.:-)
 
 Dave
 
 On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Jack Davis
 jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Wife and I took a country drive this PM looking for
 photo targets of opportunity.
  This cabin is off of hwy 70 (for the area folks) just
 as one begins the climb up and through the Feather River
 Canyon. Beautiful, steep, winding, 'thrilling'
 drive..depending upon the road/weather conditions.
 
  Jack
 
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Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...

2009-03-20 Thread Luiz Felipe
Actually, the broken diaphragm lever is in my #2 Mx camera, and the *ist 
DS is the digital body recently purchased.


LF

Cotty escreveu:

On 20/3/09, Luiz Felipe, discombobulated, unleashed:


broken diaphragm lever


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Re: PESO: Whitlock Cabin

2009-03-20 Thread Jack Davis

LOL

J


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 Subject: Re: PESO: Whitlock Cabin
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 8:51 PM
 ann sanfedele wrote:
  A little paint, some curtains etc...
  
  :-)
 
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Re: PESO: Spring

2009-03-20 Thread Jack Davis

Thanks, Luiz! I'll do that. ;)

Jack


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 From: Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br
 Subject: Re: PESO: Spring
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 11:36 PM
 Like it Jack! Keep shooting.
 
 LF
 
 Jack Davis escreveu:
  A little further up Hwy 70 toward the Feather River
 Canyon. Seems a so-so
  definitive spring image..at least for these parts.
  
  Jack
  
  All comments welcomed.
  
 
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Re: PESO: Whitlock Cabin

2009-03-20 Thread Jack Davis

Thanks, Marnie. With some effort, I could go back ('prox 100 miles round trip) 
and either take an 8' orchard ladder I bought just for such things or get lower 
by sliding down a fairly shallow ditch bank.
I'll probably just try to ignore it, now that its been mentioned. ;)
Thanks for constructive comments.

Jack 


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 From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: Whitlock Cabin
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 11:05 PM
 In a message dated 3/19/2009 2:05:05 P.M.  Pacific Daylight
 Time, 
 jdavi...@yahoo.com writes:
 Wife and I took a country  drive this PM looking for photo
 targets of 
 opportunity.
 This cabin is off of  hwy 70 (for the area folks) just as
 one begins the 
 climb up and through the  Feather River Canyon. Beautiful,
 steep, winding, 
 'thrilling' drive..depending  upon the road/weather
 conditions.
 
 Jack
 
 K20,  DA*50~135
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=391
 
 =
 While  I like the cabin, naturally, (all that dilapidation
 and rust), it 
 bothers me the  hill line is so close to the roof line. I
 think I'd like it better 
 behind the  roof line, closer, or much higher than the roof
 line (different  
 angle).
 
 HTH, Marnie aka Doe  :-)
 -
 Warning: I am now  filtering my email, so you may be
 censored.  
 
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Re: PESO: Belgian nights in b/w

2009-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
The clarity and detail you get is amazing.

Dave

2009/3/19 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de:
 I'm scanning my way through loads of film from the last years. Just the
 right thing to do to kill the long evening hours while I'm sneezing and
 coughing my way through a nasty cold HE has brought home from the gym.
 Sports, I tell you...  Churchill was quite right!

 Anyway:

 http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/16402961

 As always... :-)

 Aaaatchoum!!! Sniff...

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Re: PESO: Whitlock Cabin

2009-03-20 Thread Jack Davis

I took several shots doing just that. This version turned out to be most 
pleasing to me. I, also, cropped it a little tighter than I would if it were 
for a print, but I like the more apparent detail in this small web file.
Thanks, Luiz!

Jack


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 Subject: Re: PESO: Whitlock Cabin
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 Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 11:41 PM
 Like it too - but would possibly frame it a little higher,
 to include more of the top of the tree and less of the
 foreground. Don't know, since I don't know the
 place, but would try.
 
 LF
 
 Jack Davis escreveu:
  Wife and I took a country drive this PM looking for
 photo targets of opportunity.
  This cabin is off of hwy 70 (for the area folks) just
 as one begins the climb up and through the Feather River
 Canyon. Beautiful, steep, winding, 'thrilling'
 drive..depending upon the road/weather conditions.
  
  Jack
  
  K20, DA*50~135
  
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=391
  
  

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Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-20 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: David J Brooks 
Subject: Re: Wedding photography, starting price?




One thing i  have never had, is a customer come back to me, after
buying a day CD, and saying Wally mart etc would not print the photos.



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Re: PESO: Spring

2009-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
Yup, thats spring.

Dave

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 A little further up Hwy 70 toward the Feather River Canyon. Seems a so-so
 definitive spring image..at least for these parts.

 Jack

 All comments welcomed.

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Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
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 - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: Wedding
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 One thing i  have never had, is a customer come back to me, after
 buying a day CD, and saying Wally mart etc would not print the photos.


 Dave, think about what you are saying.

That the tech thinks my shots or not professional.:-)

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Setting a CWB for flash

2009-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
What is the method one would use to set this up.

Attach flash, set up grey card, or white card, set CWB on the K10D
frame the card and then shoot it.

Just curious as i have never done this, and on another forum, non
pentax, they suggest this when the I'm doing a weeding soon, help me
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Re: PESO: Whitlock Cabin

2009-03-20 Thread Christian

Jack Davis wrote:

Wife and I took a country drive this PM looking for photo targets of 
opportunity.
This cabin is off of hwy 70 (for the area folks) just as one begins the climb 
up and through the Feather River Canyon. Beautiful, steep, winding, 'thrilling' 
drive..depending upon the road/weather conditions.

Jack

K20, DA*50~135

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=391


Nice setting and building and nicely composed.  I'd like to see it in 
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Re: Setting a CWB for flash

2009-03-20 Thread Paul Sorenson

Set WB to Daylight, shoot RAW, process in Lightroom...

-p

David J Brooks wrote:

What is the method one would use to set this up.

Attach flash, set up grey card, or white card, set CWB on the K10D
frame the card and then shoot it.

Just curious as i have never done this, and on another forum, non
pentax, they suggest this when the I'm doing a weeding soon, help me
posts come up.

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Re: small GESO from NorCal PDML in Sacramento

2009-03-20 Thread Christian

Mark Erickson wrote:

No nipple shots or gear goonery here

Just some detail shots from the little rail yard in old Sacramento.  I'm
attracted to heavy, grimy weathered cast iron and steel as subjects.  Train
tracks and rail car undercarriages have a lot of it to offer.

I took these with my K10D and SMC-A 100mm F2.8 macro (Thanks Stan!).  I
postprocessed them all with a digital lith workflow that I really like for
bringing out texture and feel in iron, stone, and brick: 


http://www.westerickson.net/railiron/index.html

As always, comments/critiques welcome.


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2009-03-20 Thread Joe Wilensky
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OT: Mamiya DL33

2009-03-20 Thread Timbah!

Seems like the Pentax 645D has a strong competitor:
http://www.photographyblog.com/news/mamiya_dl33/

If I remember right the 645D is priced around the same range (20K USD) 
and Mamiya already present at the MF DSLR market it might have a strong 
impact on P645D...


Just my two cents,
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Re: Setting a CWB for flash

2009-03-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
If you shoot RAW, you can adjust the white balance during conversion.  
Just set the camera to auto white balance and fine tune to your taste  
during conversion. If color temp is critical for a particular job,  
include a white or gray card in frame for a test shot, then set color  
temp with the eyedropper when converting. If you're shooting jpegs,  
and color temp is critical, set the white balance manually before  
shooting.

Paul

On Mar 20, 2009, at 9:26 AM, David J Brooks wrote:


What is the method one would use to set this up.

Attach flash, set up grey card, or white card, set CWB on the K10D
frame the card and then shoot it.

Just curious as i have never done this, and on another forum, non
pentax, they suggest this when the I'm doing a weeding soon, help me
posts come up.

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Re: PESO: Spring

2009-03-20 Thread Jack Davis

Thanks, Dave. That was my only point. ;)

Jack


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 Yup, thats spring.
 
 Dave
 
 On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Jack Davis
 jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  A little further up Hwy 70 toward the Feather River
 Canyon. Seems a so-so
  definitive spring image..at least for these parts.
 
  Jack
 
  All comments welcomed.
 
 
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Re: Setting a CWB for flash

2009-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 If you're shooting jpegs, and color temp is
 critical, set the white balance manually before shooting.
 Paul

That's what i do mostly, Jpeg's.

Do i just set the camera to the CWB menu, then shoot something and
have the flash go off. This is the part that confuses.

Dave

 On Mar 20, 2009, at 9:26 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 What is the method one would use to set this up.

 Attach flash, set up grey card, or white card, set CWB on the K10D
 frame the card and then shoot it.

 Just curious as i have never done this, and on another forum, non
 pentax, they suggest this when the I'm doing a weeding soon, help me
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Re: PESO: a view from above

2009-03-20 Thread Christian

ann sanfedele wrote:



Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote:


perhaps it is just that. i tought it had a good balance and that it
was graphically compelling.

So do I, Luka... and a nice piece of photo-journalism... might like to 
see a black and white conversion though.




At first i found it a bit jarring, but I do like the colors and geometry 
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Pentax sighting

2009-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
Was watching a re run of the show, Just shoot me, and the staff photog
was doing a swim suit shoot.

Pentax 67.

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Re: small GESO from NorCal PDML in Sacramento

2009-03-20 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Mark Erickson m...@westerickson.net wrote:
 No nipple shots or gear goonery here

 Just some detail shots from the little rail yard in old Sacramento.  I'm
 attracted to heavy, grimy weathered cast iron and steel as subjects.  Train
 tracks and rail car undercarriages have a lot of it to offer.

 I took these with my K10D and SMC-A 100mm F2.8 macro (Thanks Stan!).  I
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 bringing out texture and feel in iron, stone, and brick:

 http://www.westerickson.net/railiron/index.html

Beautiful.

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Re: PESO: Whitlock Cabin

2009-03-20 Thread Jack Davis

Thanks, Christian. It faces the south and, as you can see, there is what 
appears to be the remnants of an olive grove to the west. A substantially lower 
sun angle would add particulate hewed light to the near side, but I'm not sure 
to what advantage. Probably due to my lack of vision. :-/

Jack


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 Subject: Re: PESO: Whitlock Cabin
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 6:38 AM
 Jack Davis wrote:
  Wife and I took a country drive this PM looking for
 photo targets of opportunity.
  This cabin is off of hwy 70 (for the area folks) just
 as one begins the climb up and through the Feather River
 Canyon. Beautiful, steep, winding, 'thrilling'
 drive..depending upon the road/weather conditions.
  
  Jack
  
  K20, DA*50~135
  
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=391
 
 Nice setting and building and nicely composed.  I'd
 like to see it in early morning/late afternoon.
 
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Re: Pentax sighting

2009-03-20 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:56 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Was watching a re run of the show, Just shoot me, and the staff photog
 was doing a swim suit shoot.

 Pentax 67.

I think I used to watch that show once in a while.  It could be funny.

They all worked for a magazine, right?

I guess that was in pre-digital days.

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Re: Pentax sighting

2009-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:01 AM, frank theriault
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 On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:56 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Was watching a re run of the show, Just shoot me, and the staff photog
 was doing a swim suit shoot.

 Pentax 67.

 I think I used to watch that show once in a while.  It could be funny.

Sometimes, yes, but yesterday was just an excuse to not start painting
my kitchen.

 They all worked for a magazine, right?

Yes, Blush.

 I guess that was in pre-digital days.

Very.:-)

Dave

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Re: Pentax sighting

2009-03-20 Thread Bruce Walker


Subject: Pentax sighting
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Mark!  :-)

Kinda poignant really.

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Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...

2009-03-20 Thread Luiz Felipe
Well, I'd probably do that - buy another 35mm Pentax - the moment I sell 
the Canon kit. Not before, since the $$ is not easy to come by lately. 
:-/ And there is always a bigger brother (digital) to the DS... Well, 
I'd better keep working, that's some cash to spend in gear, as soon as I 
earn it. :-)


I have another Mx - ugly but in working order, meant as backup for the 
Lx until said Lx failed to focus properly during one portrait session I 
chose to do with ambient light and shallow DOF. Also lost some macro 
work (focus again, the day before), and  a night in the city when the 
autoexposure quit. In a month I pretty much flunked all the shots I 
tried using the Lx. I got shocked twice - when I got results form macro 
 portrait, and later when I finished a rather nice nightfall with a 
couple of digital previews and the will to kick myself for not carrying 
the spare camera.


The funny about buying more 35mm - 2 cameras I'd chose are exactly the 
Lx and the Pz1p - I love MLU and DOF preview. Toralf, can I tell my wife 
I'm buying yet another camera on your advice???


LF

Toralf Lund escreveu:

Luiz Felipe wrote:

Well, just bought a *ist DS with the 18~55, and one of these days I'll
get to receive it... the price we pay for that lovely and cheap address
not too close to the sea ;-) [ ... ]

I'm watching BR ebay-like sites, and right now is the wrong time to sell
anything 35mm around here - Pentax in particular.
Maybe this means that the best option is actually to buy another 35mm 
Pentax, i.e. one that works? Another MX, perhaps, since you may have a 
good parts camera for it already.



Problem aggravated by
the fact those cameras are not working and Pentax tech in BR is not so
near. I really don't know what to do.

Any ideas? Please???

PS: since I can't rely on just one camera, I accepted as payment for
some old debts a Canon EOS 500n + 50mm 1.8 and 28~80 whatever, the
camera in fair condition but lenses very good. I'd like to sell it and
pay the repair of one or two of those cameras, but that means only one 
35mm camera until the repairs are successful (if). Or I could go the 
evil way and purchase the PK~EOS adapter and keep it - too bad I hate 
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PESO - Looming

2009-03-20 Thread frank theriault
These guys had a sort of War of the Worlds look to them:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/looming.html

Comments always welcome.

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Re: PESO: a view from above

2009-03-20 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
ah, i've been honored with a PDML-esque discussion. this, if nothing,
makes the posting of the photo in question, worthwhile :)


i do agree that the fact a photograph is based on reality in a certain
objective way is important. but, than again, i don't think it rules
out abstract photography. it's just, a work of art doesn't need a
history or a 'builders' manual' for one to be able to appreciate it,
and if some potential abstract photo does whatever one wants in an
abstract art form, than it is abstract. the fact you can trace it to
film and therefore 'original scene' is meaningless. similarly, finding
roots of pollock's paintings is also meaningless in respect to them
being abstract or not.

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 ann sanfedele wrote:


 Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote:

 perhaps it is just that. i tought it had a good balance and that it
 was graphically compelling.

 So do I, Luka... and a nice piece of photo-journalism... might like to see
 a black and white conversion though.


 At first i found it a bit jarring, but I do like the colors and geometry of
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Re: PESO: a view from above

2009-03-20 Thread frank theriault
2009/3/19 Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com:
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3458/3369203594_e16d39223d_b.jpg

 pentax spotmatic spII
 zeiss 20 2.8
 fuji reala 100

I like it.

At first the lines of parked cars look quite orderly, then you notice
a few that are out of place.  Then you notice the little clump of
pedestrians making their way across the street.  The orderliness of
the buildings and square, less orderly cars and very disorderly
pedestrians - it's all pretty cool.

I like it!

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Re: PESO: a view from above

2009-03-20 Thread ann sanfedele
Luka - as you know from my original post I like the photo-journalistic 
aspect of it... the helter-skelterness (ugh, someone is
going to get on me for that coinage)  is intriguing - what I see in it 
from a documentary perspective (yeah yeah, here we go with puns)  is the 
recording of what looks like an accident scene in the lower left corner 
... and the vehicles akimbo elsewhere.  anyway, I like it more each time 
I look at it...


ann

Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote:


ah, i've been honored with a PDML-esque discussion. this, if nothing,
makes the posting of the photo in question, worthwhile :)


i do agree that the fact a photograph is based on reality in a certain
objective way is important. but, than again, i don't think it rules
out abstract photography. it's just, a work of art doesn't need a
history or a 'builders' manual' for one to be able to appreciate it,
and if some potential abstract photo does whatever one wants in an
abstract art form, than it is abstract. the fact you can trace it to
film and therefore 'original scene' is meaningless. similarly, finding
roots of pollock's paintings is also meaningless in respect to them
being abstract or not.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Christian christ...@skofteland.net wrote:
 


ann sanfedele wrote:
   


Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote:

 


perhaps it is just that. i tought it had a good balance and that it
was graphically compelling.

   


So do I, Luka... and a nice piece of photo-journalism... might like to see
a black and white conversion though.

 


At first i found it a bit jarring, but I do like the colors and geometry of
it.


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Re: PESO - Looming

2009-03-20 Thread ann sanfedele



frank theriault wrote:


These guys had a sort of War of the Worlds look to them:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/looming.html

Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank
 


or... Frank pays homage to Ralf :-)

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Re: PESO: Spring

2009-03-20 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 A little further up Hwy 70 toward the Feather River Canyon. Seems a so-so
 definitive spring image..at least for these parts.

 Jack

 All comments welcomed.

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=392

 K10, DA 16~45

Love the yellow blossoms in the bright green grass.

Beautiful! (-7C as I left the house this morning, although that's
unseasonably cool for this time of year here).

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Re: So - where are my shots from the NorCal meet?

2009-03-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Heh. Don't worry John. You're not alone.

I've been dealing with a tooth going bad all week, have hardly had the  
mental space to look at photographs creatively. Should probably have  
just pulled the trigger on Monday and scheduled it for Tuesday, but we  
were trying to save the tooth, and some money. Ugh.


Such it is.

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On Mar 19, 2009, at 11:37 PM, John Francis wrote:

Answer - still on the hard drive, awaiting my attention.

Sunday we went over to Don Quixotes in Felton to catch a
show by Shay  Michael Black (2/3 of the Black Brothers).
See http://www.black-brothers.com if you don't know them.
That added a few more shots to the to do list.

Then on Monday I caught their show again in San Jose, by
invitation this time, which got me a few more possibles.

I'm stacking up images that need processing (including
picking a couple for my Picture-a-Week gallery).  Plus
there's this little thing called work, which needs some
of my time.  Add a couple of other things that are on
the honeydew list, and I'm all out of time.

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Re: PESO: Belgian nights in b/w

2009-03-20 Thread frank theriault
2009/3/19 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de:
 I'm scanning my way through loads of film from the last years. Just the
 right thing to do to kill the long evening hours while I'm sneezing and
 coughing my way through a nasty cold HE has brought home from the gym.
 Sports, I tell you...  Churchill was quite right!

 Anyway:

 http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/16402961

 As always... :-)

 Aaaatchoum!!! Sniff...

Another amazing photo - love the BW conversion.

Hope you feel better soon.

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Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...

2009-03-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I'd find it very hard to justify putting any money at all into 35mm  
camera repairs. There's little or no point to it, at least for me.  
Better to put that money into a second digital body, new or used, and  
dump the lot of 35mm film gear for whatever can be gotten out of it.


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Re: Paparazzi or street shooter?

2009-03-20 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote:
 Found three fascinating video clips about a young man Carl Størmer who
 photographed young girls and celebrities with a hidden camera at the
 streets of Oslo in 1893-96. For some obscure reason he ended his
 street photography after 3 years.
 The camera he used had a disk of six circular frames. He his it under
 his vest, and often approached his victim with a smile.

 The third clip shows a gost like image of author Henrik Ibsen. Carl
 Størmer must have been very fasinated by Ibsen, he is the subject in
 eight pictures.

 http://www.dagbladet.no/2009/03/19/magasinet/dokumentar/fotografi/film/ibsen/5351234/
 There are three film clips here. Hopefully you will be able to find
 them at this norwegian page.
 The red rectangle in ULH shows the clips into full screen.


Very cool stuff!

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Re: PESO - Looming

2009-03-20 Thread Christian

frank theriault wrote:

These guys had a sort of War of the Worlds look to them:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/looming.html

Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank



Reminds me more of the flash-back battle scenes from the first 
Terminator movie.  Dark, foreboding; I like.


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Annual - Blurb gets my vote.

2009-03-20 Thread mike wilson
...as long as they don't say gotten again

Quote
You were right to scream and shout about our Economy shipping method to the 
UK. Orders that should have taken no more than 4 to 15 business days to ship 
from our Netherlands printer to the UK have been taking up to four weeks to 
arrive. 

This unfortunate degradation with our UK Economy method is simply unacceptable 
to us and we thank each and every one of you who let us know things weren't 
right. Although we now have a solution in place, we understand that these 
shipping delays caused unnecessary frustrations, so we do apologise for any 
inconvenience. 
 
We worked with our European printer and the Swiss Post to correct this 
situation as quickly as possible. Now, orders going Economy are shipped using 
an upgraded service that will give you better delivery times without passing on 
any additional costs to you. We've already started to see marked improvements 
in delivery times and have gotten good feedback from fellow UK customers. 
 
To show appreciation for your patience while we found a better shipping 
solution, we'd like to take care of the shipping costs on your next order. Use 
the code below to get FREE shipping* on your next order up to £10, which should 
take care of Economy shipping ... or part of the cost of any other method you 
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Re: Annual - Blurb gets my vote.

2009-03-20 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:13 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 ...as long as they don't say gotten again

So they've taken care of the shipping issue with books you've
boughtten from them?

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Re: OT - Lisa Wiltse

2009-03-20 Thread Bong Manayon
[testing...my messages doesn't seem to go through...]

Looks familiar.  Good photo journalistic/street shots...hope she has
the 'license to shoot' (I suppose they would have been under some
documentary project..but then again).

Been doing similar work for non-government agencies and missions
except I am contractually bound not to display the photos to protect
the privacy of the subjects; technically the photos are mine and I get
credit and the prize if it wins a Pulitzer...but only if the agency
publishes it.

Ethically pondering...

Bong

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 Feeding the CBA on ebay the other night (a Voigt R2A), I checked out the
 website of the seller, and was pleasantly surprised. She was a staff photog
 for the Sydney Morning Herald, but now freelances.

 http://www.lisawiltse.com/

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Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-20 Thread mike wilson

 Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote: 
 David Savage wrote:
  Every time a hear a discussion about giving away photographs (and
  pricing in such a way as it's almost the same thing) this interview
  with Harlan Ellison comes to mind:
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE
 
 That absolutely rocks.

Certanly rocks my machine.  Every time (I only did it twice) I click on it 
multiple pages of YouTube open in extremely rapid succession.

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RE: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-20 Thread mike wilson

 Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: 
   
   It's been so long since we had a lynching I've forgotten 
  where I left my
   pitchfork.
   
  
  Lynching...  Pitchfork?
  
  For a lynching I think a rope is more useful
  
 
 You need a pitchfork when you're in a lynchmob outside the sherrif's office,
 then later to prod the guilty sonofabitch when he's swinging.

I prefer a fiery brand but each to their own.

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digital lith (was: small GESO from NorCal PDML in Sacramento)

2009-03-20 Thread Mark Erickson

Rick Womer wrote:
These are very nice.  Could you tell us more about the digital lith 
workflow? 


Rick


And give up my secrets?  ;-) 

There are a lot of digital lith workflows out there of varying complexity.  
The workflow I use is derived from one written up a few years ago on the web 
by Marco Pauck.  Unfortunately, the last time I looked he had taken his page 
down. 

I'll look at writing something up sometime soon and putting it on the 
web


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Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-20 Thread Mark Roberts

Christine Aguila wrote:
snip

Me:  Then we would need to talk terms, right?

consulting assistant:  (He begrudgingly hands me his business card and 
doesn't look too happy.)


Everybody wants something for nothing.


A few years ago in Rochester I took a great shot of the start of the 
Lilac Festival 10k: Head on view through a 300mm lens of all the runners 
coming toward the camera, with former U.S. Olympic team member John 
Tuttle in the middle and leading. There was a late spring that year and 
there were almost no lilacs blooming - except for the big patch I got in 
the background of this photo.


I had it on my web site, of course, and the following spring one of the 
organizers of the race asked if I'd let them use the photo in their race 
promotions. I said, Yes, of course, for an appropriate fee. He 
suggested (predictably to all of you by now) that I should let them use 
the shot for free because it would be good promotion for me.


Here's my response: The fact that you found my image and liked it 
enough to use it is proof that I don't *need* any additional promotion. 
What I do need is money and that's what I require in return for use of 
my work.


Never heard back from them.

The same kind of thing has happened to me many times :(

Now the concept is becoming institutionalized with things like the CNN 
iReport, which is just photos and videos shot by passers-by of news 
events and sent in to CNN. With, of course, no compensation paid to the 
iReporter. They never meet the standards that one would expect from a 
professional photographer or videographer, but they *do*, as a whole, 
take work away from the Paul Stenquists and Cottys of the world.


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Re: Annual - Blurb gets my vote.

2009-03-20 Thread mike wilson

 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: 
 On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:13 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 
  ...as long as they don't say gotten again
 
 So they've taken care of the shipping issue with books you've
 boughtten from them?

That's rightten.

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Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...

2009-03-20 Thread Nick Wright
I find no problem in repairing older 35mm gear.

His LX lasted nearly 30 years. I'd be surprised if any digital camera
available today would be operational half that long (other than museum
pieces that never got used).

If the repair doesn't cost too much and he can get another couple
decades of service out of it, why not?

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 I'd find it very hard to justify putting any money at all into 35mm camera
 repairs. There's little or no point to it, at least for me. Better to put
 that money into a second digital body, new or used, and dump the lot of 35mm
 film gear for whatever can be gotten out of it.

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Re: small GESO from NorCal PDML in Sacramento

2009-03-20 Thread mike wilson

 Mark Erickson m...@westerickson.net wrote: 
 No nipple shots or gear goonery here
 
 Just some detail shots from the little rail yard in old Sacramento.  I'm
 attracted to heavy, grimy weathered cast iron and steel as subjects.  Train
 tracks and rail car undercarriages have a lot of it to offer.
 
 I took these with my K10D and SMC-A 100mm F2.8 macro (Thanks Stan!).  I
 postprocessed them all with a digital lith workflow that I really like for
 bringing out texture and feel in iron, stone, and brick: 
 
 http://www.westerickson.net/railiron/index.html

It's difficult to quantify but these don't have the texture and feel I was 
expecting from your description.

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Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-20 Thread ann sanfedele


Mark Roberts wrote:


Christine wrote ...[ snip snip]
Everybody wants something for nothing.


A few years ago in Rochester I took a great shot of the start of the 
Lilac Festival 10k: Head on view through a 300mm lens of all the 
runners coming toward the camera, with former U.S. Olympic team member 
John Tuttle in the middle and leading. There was a late spring that 
year and there were almost no lilacs blooming - except for the big 
patch I got in the background of this photo.
I had it on my web site, of course, and the following spring one of 
the organizers of the race asked if I'd let them use the photo in 
their race promotions. I said, Yes, of course, for an appropriate 
fee. He suggested (predictably to all of you by now) that I should 
let them use the shot for free because it would be good promotion for me.
Here's my response: The fact that you found my image and liked it 
enough to use it is proof that I don't *need* any additional 
promotion. What I do need is money and that's what I require in return 
for use of my work.


Never heard back from them.

The same kind of thing has happened to me many times :( 


Me too -- and my photos at this point are the only thing keeping a roof 
over my head besides my  ss check


I dig a gig where I photo'ed an event the showing of a film on the 
little known poet Htam Plutzik... followed by
a panel discussion...  I got paid for the shoot and a CD for the PLutzik 
foundation, and I made public for viewing

on the web on my site the shots I took...

The panel moderator asked if he could have the wonderful photo I took 
of him for his website...  I said if he
wanted the photo on his site he could buy a jpg file from me on a pay 
what you will' basis , but he could also
just include a link on his web site to the photo on my web site for no 
fee.  


Never heard back from him, either

sigh
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Re: small GESO from NorCal PDML in Sacramento

2009-03-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
Marnie,
Nothing abstract about it.
I saw the 110 pound letters on the rail,
the truck springs, the rail bolts and spikes.
It's like the smell of morning coffee to old rail buffs.  :-)
Very nice work and elegant as well.  Thanks for posting Mark!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:59 AM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 In a message dated 3/19/2009 10:07:19 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
 m...@westerickson.net writes:
 No nipple shots or gear  goonery here

 Just some detail shots from the little rail yard in old  Sacramento.  I'm
 attracted to heavy, grimy weathered cast iron and steel  as subjects.  Train
 tracks and rail car undercarriages have a lot of it  to offer.

 I took these with my K10D and SMC-A 100mm F2.8 macro (Thanks  Stan!).  I
 postprocessed them all with a digital lith workflow that I  really like for
 bringing out texture and feel in iron, stone, and brick:

 http://www.westerickson.net/railiron/index.html

 As always,  comments/critiques welcome.

 Thanks for Looking,

 Mark

 ==
 Very nice, Mark. Caught some good details  there. And some are almost
 abstract. ;-)

 Marnie aka Doe

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Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...

2009-03-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/3/09, Luiz Felipe, discombobulated, unleashed:

 On 20/3/09, Luiz Felipe, discombobulated, unleashed:

 broken diaphragm lever

 You're talking about the *ist Ds, right?

Actually, the broken diaphragm lever is in my #2 Mx camera, and the *ist
DS is the digital body recently purchased.

LF

It's alright Luiz, I'm just making a cheap joke about Pentax's
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Re: Potential LBA, FA43

2009-03-20 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 6:45 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 LBA

 God I hate that term.

Lima Bean Agglutinin?

Local Bus Adapter?

Laser Balloon Angioplasty?

Seriously, what does it mean?  I'm so out of it when it comes to initialisms...

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Re: PESO - Looming

2009-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
Good shot.

Moody for sure.

Dave

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knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 These guys had a sort of War of the Worlds look to them:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/looming.html

 Comments always welcome.

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Re: OT - Lisa Wiltse

2009-03-20 Thread Scott Loveless
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Derby Chang wrote:

 Feeding the CBA on ebay the other night (a Voigt R2A), I checked out the
 website of the seller, and was pleasantly surprised. She was a staff photog
 for the Sydney Morning Herald, but now freelances.

 http://www.lisawiltse.com/

 D

 I was unpleasantly surprised when her Flash-based website unilaterally
 resized my browser window to full-screenwidth.  I fsckin' hate that.

Yep.  And that's as far as I got, too.  Close tab, put the browser
back the way I like it.

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Re: Potential LBA, FA43

2009-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
Something along the lines of:
Lens Buying Addict or Addiction.

Dave

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:27 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 6:45 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 LBA

 God I hate that term.

 Lima Bean Agglutinin?

 Local Bus Adapter?

 Laser Balloon Angioplasty?

 Seriously, what does it mean?  I'm so out of it when it comes to 
 initialisms...

 cheers,
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OT - Trend Pc-illin question - the help menu doesn't help

2009-03-20 Thread ann sanfedele
For the life of me I can figure out how to set the time the daily 
internet virus search thingy runs --
Yes, I looked at the help menu...  

It has been running at noon every day  and  that is NOT 
convenient... I'd like it to run at like 7 am.. .. when

I am most likely to be asleep.

there is something else it does at 3 pm  but not every day

Ive got windoze xp

T I A

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Re: New gear, but now I have a decision to make...

2009-03-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
Luiz,
In sympathy...
I still have rolls of film in the PZ-1 and MZ-S from when I purchased
my first digital.
It was a *ist DS and 3+ years ago.
I didn't expect to, but I never looked back.
I still have film in the freezer, but digital is cheaper and most satisfying!
I wouldn't fix anything but the LX.  I can't bring myself to sell mine.
Keep it for nostalgia.
The MX cameras are nice, but have suffered heavy useage.
Repair will be more expensive than finding a low milage used copy.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote:
 Well, just bought a *ist DS with the 18~55, and one of these days I'll
 get to receive it... the price we pay for that lovely and cheap address
 not too close to the sea ;-)

 But the new (for me, at least) camera means my 35mm gear repair schedule
 is on hold for some time, and maybe for good. I'm facing a tough choice
 - wich cameras to keep, wich cameras to let go - and where. I have,
 currently on sick bay:

 Mx body, exterior good, broken diaphragm lever, a single risk on the
 lensmount and shutter erratic. Pentax techs in Sao Paulo believe they
 can repair it. It's my second Mx body, bought as is for $30. Keep it for
 parts?

 Lx body, auto off, mirror working ok but needing alignment, exterior
 fair. Techs say it's possible, but not probable to make it work. I'm
 deeply attached to this camera, bought in 1981 and used all around the
 world, but not as display model. Try to sell it, but what price?

 Pz1p body, damaged shutter, broken and repaired bottom plate. Techs say
 parts available, no big deal. Just some cash I'm not ready to pay for a
 while. Repair it later or just spend the cash on other things Pentax?
 Gift from a friend currently using Canon.

 I'm watching BR ebay-like sites, and right now is the wrong time to sell
 anything 35mm around here - Pentax in particular. Problem aggravated by
 the fact those cameras are not working and Pentax tech in BR is not so
 near. I really don't know what to do.

 Any ideas? Please???

 PS: since I can't rely on just one camera, I accepted as payment for
 some old debts a Canon EOS 500n + 50mm 1.8 and 28~80 whatever, the
 camera in fair condition but lenses very good. I'd like to sell it and
 pay the repair of one or two of those cameras, but that means only one 35mm
 camera until the repairs are successful (if). Or I could go the evil way and
 purchase the PK~EOS adapter and keep it - too bad I hate the damned
 viewfinder...

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Re: OT - over-photoshopped kids

2009-03-20 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote:

 WHY???


 Because there's a demand in the marketplace.  Go figure.


Funny thing about beauty contests, especially those for youths or very
young children:  rather than celebrate diversity it seems that the aim
for most contestants (presumably fuelled by the choices of the judges)
is to be as homogeneous as possible.  Sexualizing young girls with
makeup, adult-looking hair and skimpy outfits seems to win contests.
 Full, red, pouty lips and great big velvet-painting-like eyes seem to
be a goal.  These horrendous photoshop monstrosities are simply taking
these goals to their extreme.  Obviously they're being used for
promotional material for these professional beauty pageant entrants.

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Re: PESO - Three Plugs and No Sparks

2009-03-20 Thread Tim Bray
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 5:11 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 G'day all

 I came across an old tractor late one afternoon at Lightning Ridge in
 outback New South Wales.  The low angle of the sun highlighted the rust
 and old red paint on the engine block and produced a very vivid image.

 Cropped a little.

Very nice.  Did you pump up the color just a teeny bit in post-processing?  -T

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Re: OT - over-photoshopped kids

2009-03-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/3/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

Full, red, pouty lips and great big velvet-painting-like eyes seem to
be a goal.

And your problem with this is exactly what? ;-)

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Another day, another lens

2009-03-20 Thread William Robb
In my ongoing search for the perfect portrait lens, I picked up one of the 
new DA*55/1.4 lenses yesterday.
My initial impression is that it is about as sharp and contrasty a lens as 
is possible to buy on this planet.

Of course, for what they wanted for it, it had bloody well better be good.
The AF is a little painful, it reminds me of the first generation Pentax AF, 
only quieter.
I probably won't be doing much shooting with it for the next few days, but I 
have a shoot booked in for next Sunday, with the possibilty of another one 
as well.


Pictures in a while.

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Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-20 Thread Christian

mike wilson wrote:
 Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: 
It's been so long since we had a lynching I've forgotten 

where I left my

pitchfork.


Lynching...  Pitchfork?

For a lynching I think a rope is more useful


You need a pitchfork when you're in a lynchmob outside the sherrif's office,
then later to prod the guilty sonofabitch when he's swinging.


I prefer a fiery brand but each to their own.


Just give me a damn torch.


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Re: Potential LBA, FA43

2009-03-20 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:34 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Something along the lines of:
 Lens Buying Addict or Addiction.

I didn't think it would be Lima Bean Agglutinin...

Thanks, Dave.

cheers,
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Re: OT - over-photoshopped kids

2009-03-20 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 20/3/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

Full, red, pouty lips and great big velvet-painting-like eyes seem to
be a goal.

 And your problem with this is exactly what? ;-)

Did I say I had a problem with that?

cheers,
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;-)

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Re: OT - over-photoshopped kids

2009-03-20 Thread Christian

Cotty wrote:

On 20/3/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:


Full, red, pouty lips and great big velvet-painting-like eyes seem to
be a goal.


And your problem with this is exactly what? ;-)


Dude!  On a six-year-old?  You've sunk to a new low, Cotty...  :-)

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Re: OT - over-photoshopped kids

2009-03-20 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault 
Subject: Re: OT - over-photoshopped kids




Funny thing about beauty contests, especially those for youths or very
young children:  rather than celebrate diversity it seems that the aim
for most contestants (presumably fuelled by the choices of the judges)
is to be as homogeneous as possible.  Sexualizing young girls with
makeup, adult-looking hair and skimpy outfits seems to win contests.
Full, red, pouty lips and great big velvet-painting-like eyes seem to
be a goal.  These horrendous photoshop monstrosities are simply taking
these goals to their extreme.  Obviously they're being used for
promotional material for these professional beauty pageant entrants.

cheers,
frank

I believe this bears repeating:


On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:


Shouldn't do such things to an innocent helpless animal. Still too much 
to be learned about animal awareness.(?)





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Re: Potential LBA, FA43

2009-03-20 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: David J Brooks

Subject: Re: Potential LBA, FA43


Something along the lines of:
Lens Buying Addict or Addiction.


And the guy who coined it is no where near as well endowed with lenses as I 
am.

Bastards.

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