Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread Larry Colen

On 9/7/2011 10:30 PM, John Francis wrote:

On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 11:37:21PM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote:

On 2011-09-07 22:39, Anthony Farr wrote:


But
they were much more powerful and faster in a straight line.  Through
the bendy bits they really were mobile chicanes.

Several run groups at your typical SCCA event will have that flavor,
due to the classes that end up combined sometimes.  I think the
worst I've seen was a run group that included both GT1 monster
horsepower cars and GT-Lites (or was it GT4 back then) which handled
like roller skates but had zip for power compared to the GT1 cars.
GT1s took off like scalded cats on the straights, and got caught up
by the Lites in the twisty bits.  Lap after lap after lap.

Nothing new there.  That's exactly the scenario that unfolded around
40 years ago, except in that case the powerhouses were Ford Galaxies,
and the roller skates were Mini Coopers.


Several years ago, when I built my spec miata, one of the local clubs 
had us in the same run group as the legends cars:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legends_car_racing

On pavement, the Legends were running on spec tires, which were pretty 
much street tires.  They have about 140 hp, and weigh 1,300 pounds with 
driver.


The spec miatas were running on DOT legal race tires, which are stickier 
than the full on race slicks of up until not too many years ago, have a 
bit under 140 hp, and weigh 2,300 pounds with driver.  Despite having 
nearly twice the acceleration, the legends would turn about the same lap 
times as the spec miatas. The end result being that the legends cars 
would go barreling down the straights like a scalded ape often passing 
one of a pair of miatas in a hot duel, then park it in the turns so that 
any miatas unlucky enough to be behind the legend would not only end up 
split up from the driver they were dicing with, but would then lose 
their momentum, and lose even more speed on the next straight.






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Re: Can anyone identify this beetle?

2011-09-08 Thread mike wilson

On 06/09/2011 07:51, Larry Colen wrote:


On Sep 5, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


That's beetle, not beatle:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627605282212/

He's about 2.5 (6cm) long.  Found in the Santa Cruz mountains.


I think a friend in another venue identified it.  It seems to be a long horn 
beetle:
http://www.naturephoto-cz.com/long-horn-beetle:arhopalus-rusticus-photo-5534.html


That's rather like saying That bird with a hooked beak and talons is a 
bird of prey.  I forget how many estimated millions there are of beetle 
species but it is quite a few.


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Re: Can anyone identify this beetle?

2011-09-08 Thread David Savage
That's Ringo.

On 6 September 2011 13:30, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 That's beetle, not beatle:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627605282212/

 He's about 2.5 (6cm) long.  Found in the Santa Cruz mountains.

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Re: OT: real photo postcard from pre WWI

2011-09-08 Thread Anthony Farr
It sure looks like a selectively hand-coloured bromide, perhaps even
chloride, print to me.  As for being very glossy there are ways to get
around the deglazing that would happen if an already glazed print was
coloured.  The yellow dye could be a waterproof ink wash applied to an
unglazed print.  When it dried the print could then be re-wet and
glazed, giving a perfect gloss finish despite the retouching.

Sometimes a glazed fibre print could be retouched carefully enough, if
it wasn't wet too much, that the surface could be buffed back to a
good gloss, enough to make it almost undetectable.

regards, Anthony

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On 8 September 2011 08:35, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 Another postcard from my friends family.. calling all chemists

 This is a very glossy photo - anyone know anything about this kind of
 tinting back then? I can't figure it out... not a traditional tinting where
 the whole photo would have been colored.. or was it once and
 lost other colors? Is the yellow. thre is sime silvering out but it
 sint'very noticiable because of the background exposure.

 anyone?

 http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Things-Im-selling-directly-
 Not/6280507_84bVv7/1/1468163517_sJnbMK3/Large

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Re: OT: real photo postcard from pre WWI

2011-09-08 Thread Anthony Farr
On 8 September 2011 10:11, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 .. this is , I believe , a bromide
 print.


Close inspection of the edges, especially the corners, would go a long
way to confirm this.  A print of this age will probably show some
fanning out of the layers at the corners, where you'd expect to see
the emulsion layers standing apart as a thicker strata, while the
paper layer underneath would be more feathered and fluffy in its
appearance.  You might also see some chipping or seperation of the
emulsion at the edges.

The paper of an offset or gravure print is paper all the way through.

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Pentax K-Q adapter

2011-09-08 Thread Dario Bonazza

Just to see how it looks:
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20110905_475272.html

Dario

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Re: Can anyone identify this beetle?

2011-09-08 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 7, 2011, at 10:28 PM, mike wilson wrote:

 On 06/09/2011 07:51, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 On Sep 5, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 That's beetle, not beatle:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627605282212/
 
 He's about 2.5 (6cm) long.  Found in the Santa Cruz mountains.
 
 I think a friend in another venue identified it.  It seems to be a long horn 
 beetle:
 http://www.naturephoto-cz.com/long-horn-beetle:arhopalus-rusticus-photo-5534.html
 
 That's rather like saying That bird with a hooked beak and talons is a bird 
 of prey.  I forget how many estimated millions there are of beetle species 
 but it is quite a few.

It's a type of longhorn beetle called a Pine Sawyer.  It's probably female.


 
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Re: Pentax K-Q adapter

2011-09-08 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 8, 2011, at 12:46 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:

 Just to see how it looks:
 http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20110905_475272.html

Impressive, the way that it makes the DA40 look big:
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/475/272/html/004.jpg.html

Actually, the DA40 isn't big, it's just that the adapter+DA40 looks to be about 
the size of the FA77.  Though, on that body, the DA40 would probably be a 
pretty nice medium tele.


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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread Cotty
On 7/9/11, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

On the track, I'm sure that you're a real tosser.

Just thought I'd chip in here to stir a bit :)

Filming corporate video tomorrow for one of my clients who are holding
an annual conference with morning seminars. In the afternoon, the 60 odd
delegates will get some track time, which we can film also. Track time?
Yup - the venue is the Porsche Experience Centre at Silverstone, with
the race circuit just feet away hosting a Le Mans series this weekend
IIRC. The other cameraman and me will be having a go in either a Cayman
or a Boxster :) I told him shiny side up please.

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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread David Mann
On Sep 8, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

 Well, seeing as we've strayed from the Artist-on-Artist insults, one of
 my favourite put downs was by then Australian Prime Minister Gough
 Whitlam.

One of my favourites was uttered by our late Prime Minister Robert Muldoon who 
was in office from 1975 to 1984.

Any NZer who moves to Australia raises the average IQ of both countries.

Having said that, a friend of mine is moving to Perth in October.

Cheers,
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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread Dario Bonazza

David Mann wrote:

One of my favourites was uttered by our late Prime Minister Robert Muldoon 
who was in office from 1975 to 1984.


Any NZer who moves to Australia raises the average IQ of both countries.

Having said that, a friend of mine is moving to Perth in October.

Cheers,
Dave


What if Aussies go to Canada?

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Re: interesting trends...

2011-09-08 Thread Anthony Farr
On 8 September 2011 12:35, Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 these are only figures for japan/asia but interesting nonetheless.
 canon and nikon lose a combined 35% market share while sony doubles it.

 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-07/canon-clinging-to-mirrors-means-opportunity-for-sony-cameras.html

 so, is the dslr dead yet? perhaps there's hope for the Q :)

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I found this quote quite revealing,
 'Mirrorless cameras are a threat,' said David Rubenstein, a
Tokyo-based analyst at MF Global FXA Securities Ltd

I guess they would be a threat to companies that choose to oppose the
trend rather than embrace it.

Some observations:

Non adoption of autofocus cut the SLR market from perhaps twenty or
more brands in the sixties and early seventies to less than ten.
(Topcon, anyone?  Or Miranda?  Yashica?  Petri?)   Contax and Olympus
both flubbed their AF implimentations, but Olympus redeemed itself
with a confident early digital program.

Non or late adoption of digital imaging cut that figure down to about
seven (not counting brands that only sell small sensor cameras.
Pentax scraped through by the skin of its teeth after dodging the
Phillips bullet.  Contax fell to the Phillips bullet after botching
its AF program. (Panasonic and Leica briefly dallied in the sector,
the last Panny DSLR was launched in 2007, while Leica has gone upscale
to medium format DSLRs).  Oh, then there's Sigma, but their
unconformity puts them so far out in left field that they're a
boutique product in a very small niche, kept alive by their third
party lens sales.

So now we have Canon, Nikon, Sony, Pentax, Olympus, Panasonic and
Leica.  Have I forgotten anyone?  We'll add Ricoh later, but they have
no DSLR legacy so we won't count them just yet?  Samsung?  Same as
Ricoh, except that while they briefly sold some DSLRs those were
seconded from the Pentax line-up, and surely nobody ever saw them as
anything but Pentaxes.

Leica's gone back to its rangefinder roots, no DSLR in this segment any more.

Sony has launched a strong product into the MILC (Mirrorless
Interchangeable Lens Camera) segment, while retaining their DSLR
range.  Even there, the reflex mirror is being challenged by the fixed
beamsplitter.

Olympus has almost completely moved to MILCs with their m43 range.
Their last 4/3 DSLR, the E5 was launched a year ago and is, I suspect,
the only one still being made.  Their next most recent DSLR was
launched more than 2 years ago, but here in Australia only the E5 is
still catalogued as a current model, all the others are drying up
fast.

Panasonic has fully committed to m43 MILCs, their last 4/3 DSLR was
the DMC-L10 from 2007 which is discontinued.

So now we have only four and a half brands selling DSLRs with sensor
formats between 4/3 and 135 full-frame.  Half a brand?  Well, I reckon
Olympus will pull the plug on 4/3 when their lens inventory depletes
to where they either need to recommit to the format by making more
lenses, or kill the format entirely.  It's a loss-maker, m43 is a
milking-cow.  What would you do?

That leaves Canon, Nikon, Sony and Pentax as the only DSLR makers in
the segment.  Sony is safe with their MILCS.  Pentax has the
capability proven by the Q.  Will they merge the concept with an APS-C
sensor?  Can they afford not to?  Nikon is rumoured to have a MILC
coming soon:

http://nikonrumors.com/2011/08/16/nikons-mirrorless-interchangeable-lens-camera-will-be-announced-on-august-24th.aspx/
and
http://nikonrumors.com/2011/08/16/first-drawings-of-nikons-mirrorless-interchangeable-lens-camera.aspx/

It's reported to be a 2.6x crop factor format, which makes it about a
one inch, or a little smaller than 4/3.  Is the market ready to accept
a smaller sensor?  Japan will, so I guess the rest of the world will
just have to suck it up.

Canon has nothing, only the report of a patent application.  Are they
mad, or just very good at keeping a secret?

Ricoh was out in the cold for years, but kept a good reputation for
quality and innovation in the smaller formats.  They're back now with
the GXR with A12 module for M-mount getting good notices.

Samsung seems to have fallen on its feet even though it blundered by
making its MILCs incompatible with M-mount.  They've got ambition
going for them, but they don't always make the best decisions.

Which means, funnily enough, that while all the previous adoptions of
new technology have reduced the number of brands competing in this
segment, this latest shift might actually increase the number of
brands.

My prediction is that within five years the only DSLRs will be a few
premium and professional models, perhaps one from each surviving major
player.

I also predict that within ten years their won't be DSLRs in the 4/3
to 135 range.

This was longer than I thought it'd be, so thanks for reading.

regards, Anthony

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Re: Pentax K-Q adapter

2011-09-08 Thread Anthony Farr
On 8 September 2011 17:46, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
 Just to see how it looks:
 http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20110905_475272.html

 Dario


What a hoot!
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/475/272/html/005.jpg.html

Good luck hand-holding that combo.  Anyone know the crop factor for the Q?

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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread Brian Walters
On Thursday, September 08, 2011 8:56 PM, David Mann
d...@multisport.net.nz wrote:
 On Sep 8, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
 
  Well, seeing as we've strayed from the Artist-on-Artist insults, one of
  my favourite put downs was by then Australian Prime Minister Gough
  Whitlam.
 
 One of my favourites was uttered by our late Prime Minister Robert
 Muldoon who was in office from 1975 to 1984.
 
 Any NZer who moves to Australia raises the average IQ of both
 countries.
 
 Having said that, a friend of mine is moving to Perth in October.
 


Perth?  Is that part of Australia?...


Cheers

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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread Brian Walters
On Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:08 AM, Dario Bonazza
dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
 David Mann wrote:
 
  One of my favourites was uttered by our late Prime Minister Robert Muldoon 
  who was in office from 1975 to 1984.
 
  Any NZer who moves to Australia raises the average IQ of both countries.
 
  Having said that, a friend of mine is moving to Perth in October.
 
  Cheers,
  Dave
 
 What if Aussies go to Canada?



They freeze and are never heard of again.


Cheers

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Re: Pentax K-Q adapter

2011-09-08 Thread Dario Bonazza

I wrote:


Anthony Farr wrote:

What a hoot!
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/475/272/html/005.jpg.html

Good luck hand-holding that combo.  Anyone know the crop factor for the Q?


5x, hence the DA 40mm acts as a 200mm at least!


While the soon-to-be-announced Nikon should be somewhere around 2.5x.

Pity that Sony does not make a 4/3 format sensor, as their current sensor 
technology will allow them to blow away Panasonic. My dream mirrorless 
camera is a m43 shaped like a rangefinder (viewfinder included) with a Sony 
sensor.
Not so different from a Sony NEX-7 after all... hmmm... mumble mumble... 
pity it's a Sony, with their so-so management of their excellent sensors and 
a weird flash shoe on top of that.


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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2011-09-08 0:48, Larry Colen wrote:


On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

Passable if it's someone else's car, throwable if it's mine. ;-)


On the track, I'm sure that you're a real tosser.


Off track, too. :-)


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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2011-09-08 1:30, John Francis wrote:


Nothing new there.  That's exactly the scenario that unfolded around
40 years ago, except in that case the powerhouses were Ford Galaxies,
and the roller skates were Mini Coopers.


It's pretty much unavoidable when the day is long enough for six or 
seven run groups and you're trying to stuff thirty or forty classes into 
them.  That doesn't make it less frustrating on track, though.


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Re: lighting idea, would it work?

2011-09-08 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-09-07 10:12 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Bruce Walker



But I've played with a new feature in CS5 that helps with this: the Auto
Edge Detect tool in Refine Selection is very smart. It does a great job
with texture, hair, etc.  I've been able to lift a flower off a
background, use Content Aware Fill to create plausible new background
where the flower was, then lens-blur the background and superimpose the
flower back.  Results were just about perfect.

I would definitely try green screen before this projection technology.


For me, a regular painted background is preferable to either of them.

Shop around. I found a good quality 10'x20' on sale for $50.00

Or use out of doors locations where you can throw the background 
pleasingly out of focus.


Good idea on the painted backgrounds. My neighbor does custom fashion 
display windows. I'm going to see if I can bum some painted backdrops 
from him sometime.


One out of doors subject that almost *requires* mucking with background 
extraction is the handsome flower that is growing close to some scruffy 
hedge.  You can go all F1.4 in your attempt to DoF the hedge out, but 
then you lose detail in the flower. Or you can go F8 and preserve the 
flower detail but end up with a noisy, unattractive background.


So now I extract the flower, content-aware-fill in the cutout, lens-blur 
the background, and layer blend the flower back in place.


I hear that some people suspend a backdrop behind a flower in an ugly 
setting to solve this. I've tried using a black reflector, with mixed 
results. Too much light fell on the reflector--hard to avoid.


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Re: OT: real photo postcard from pre WWI

2011-09-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
These answers (this post and the next) is one of the reasons I love the 
list so much!


The scan doesn't do the card justice.. but I'm glad you lean to what I
most suspected about it being a bromide print.  Your comments about the 
tinting and the process of buffing are great...


If i get anyone writing me about it on ebay I'll quote you :-)

Not much interest so far. I think that the real photo from that market 
tends more to people, cities,buildings and such. The C R Childs

card I have up is garnering a lot and already has a bid.

Thanks so much!

ann

On 9/8/2011 03:32, Anthony Farr wrote:

It sure looks like a selectively hand-coloured bromide, perhaps even
chloride, print to me.  As for being very glossy there are ways to get
around the deglazing that would happen if an already glazed print was
coloured.  The yellow dye could be a waterproof ink wash applied to an
unglazed print.  When it dried the print could then be re-wet and
glazed, giving a perfect gloss finish despite the retouching.

Sometimes a glazed fibre print could be retouched carefully enough, if
it wasn't wet too much, that the surface could be buffed back to a
good gloss, enough to make it almost undetectable.

regards, Anthony

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 to those who lack in mind and sight
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On 8 September 2011 08:35, Ann Sanfedeleann...@nyc.rr.com  wrote:

Another postcard from my friends family.. calling all chemists

This is a very glossy photo - anyone know anything about this kind of
tinting back then? I can't figure it out... not a traditional tinting where
the whole photo would have been colored.. or was it once and
lost other colors? Is the yellow. thre is sime silvering out but it
sint'very noticiable because of the background exposure.

anyone?

http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Things-Im-selling-directly-
Not/6280507_84bVv7/1/1468163517_sJnbMK3/Large

ann

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Re: interesting trends...

2011-09-08 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Very interesting reading Anthony, thanks for sharing your analysis and 
predictions...

Who's next?
;-)

Jaume



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Enviado: jueves 8 de septiembre de 2011 11:49
Asunto: Re: interesting trends...

On 8 September 2011 12:35, Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 these are only figures for japan/asia but interesting nonetheless.
 canon and nikon lose a combined 35% market share while sony doubles it.

 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-07/canon-clinging-to-mirrors-means-opportunity-for-sony-cameras.html

 so, is the dslr dead yet? perhaps there's hope for the Q :)

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 'Mirrorless cameras are a threat,' said David Rubenstein, a
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I guess they would be a threat to companies that choose to oppose the
trend rather than embrace it.

Some observations:

Non adoption of autofocus cut the SLR market from perhaps twenty or
more brands in the sixties and early seventies to less than ten.
(Topcon, anyone?  Or Miranda?  Yashica?  Petri?)   Contax and Olympus
both flubbed their AF implimentations, but Olympus redeemed itself
with a confident early digital program.

Non or late adoption of digital imaging cut that figure down to about
seven (not counting brands that only sell small sensor cameras.
Pentax scraped through by the skin of its teeth after dodging the
Phillips bullet.  Contax fell to the Phillips bullet after botching
its AF program. (Panasonic and Leica briefly dallied in the sector,
the last Panny DSLR was launched in 2007, while Leica has gone upscale
to medium format DSLRs).  Oh, then there's Sigma, but their
unconformity puts them so far out in left field that they're a
boutique product in a very small niche, kept alive by their third
party lens sales.

So now we have Canon, Nikon, Sony, Pentax, Olympus, Panasonic and
Leica.  Have I forgotten anyone?  We'll add Ricoh later, but they have
no DSLR legacy so we won't count them just yet?  Samsung?  Same as
Ricoh, except that while they briefly sold some DSLRs those were
seconded from the Pentax line-up, and surely nobody ever saw them as
anything but Pentaxes.

Leica's gone back to its rangefinder roots, no DSLR in this segment any more.

Sony has launched a strong product into the MILC (Mirrorless
Interchangeable Lens Camera) segment, while retaining their DSLR
range.  Even there, the reflex mirror is being challenged by the fixed
beamsplitter.

Olympus has almost completely moved to MILCs with their m43 range.
Their last 4/3 DSLR, the E5 was launched a year ago and is, I suspect,
the only one still being made.  Their next most recent DSLR was
launched more than 2 years ago, but here in Australia only the E5 is
still catalogued as a current model, all the others are drying up
fast.

Panasonic has fully committed to m43 MILCs, their last 4/3 DSLR was
the DMC-L10 from 2007 which is discontinued.

So now we have only four and a half brands selling DSLRs with sensor
formats between 4/3 and 135 full-frame.  Half a brand?  Well, I reckon
Olympus will pull the plug on 4/3 when their lens inventory depletes
to where they either need to recommit to the format by making more
lenses, or kill the format entirely.  It's a loss-maker, m43 is a
milking-cow.  What would you do?

That leaves Canon, Nikon, Sony and Pentax as the only DSLR makers in
the segment.  Sony is safe with their MILCS.  Pentax has the
capability proven by the Q.  Will they merge the concept with an APS-C
sensor?  Can they afford not to?  Nikon is rumoured to have a MILC
coming soon:

http://nikonrumors.com/2011/08/16/nikons-mirrorless-interchangeable-lens-camera-will-be-announced-on-august-24th.aspx/
and
http://nikonrumors.com/2011/08/16/first-drawings-of-nikons-mirrorless-interchangeable-lens-camera.aspx/

It's reported to be a 2.6x crop factor format, which makes it about a
one inch, or a little smaller than 4/3.  Is the market ready to accept
a smaller sensor?  Japan will, so I guess the rest of the world will
just have to suck it up.

Canon has nothing, only the report of a patent application.  Are they
mad, or just very good at keeping a secret?

Ricoh was out in the cold for years, but kept a good reputation for
quality and innovation in the smaller formats.  They're back now with
the GXR with A12 module for M-mount getting good notices.

Samsung seems to have fallen on its feet even though it blundered by
making its MILCs incompatible with M-mount.  They've got ambition
going for them, but they don't always make the best decisions.

Which means, funnily enough, that while all the previous adoptions of
new technology have reduced the number of brands competing in this
segment, this latest shift might actually increase the number of
brands.

My prediction is that within five years the only DSLRs will be a few
premium and professional models, perhaps one from each surviving 

Re: PESO - Shadow

2011-09-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thanks, Ann!

 It's fun to shoot around home, but I must admit I like travel shooting more.

With gas at $1.30 a litre i shoot in the back yard.:-)

Dave

BTW i like this one

Dave

 Rick

 http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 Subject: Re: PESO - Shadow
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2011, 7:30 PM
 Rick--
 I like this, and your stripes but especially caution
 Not sure why, but your recent stuff is much more to my
 liking than
 images from your travels abroad, for the most part.  I
 absolutely love
 caution  I think I'd like Stripes more in BW
 and the
 leaves and shadows are very pleasant .

 ann

 On 9/6/2011 18:46, Rick Womer wrote:
  Another taken on my way home from work last week:
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14142975size=lg
 
  (K7, FA 24-90)
 
  Rick
 
 
 

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Re: OT PESO - On a Dime

2011-09-08 Thread David J Brooks
Excellent Dave. Perfect moment

Dave

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 G'day All,

 http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6089/6116911692_756c54b228_o.jpg

 D700, AF-S 70-200mm @ 135mm, 1/320 @ f2.8, ISO 6400.

 Enjoy.

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Re: PESO - Parking

2011-09-08 Thread David J Brooks
Excellent line work here

Dave

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Another from walks home from work last week:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14142976size=lg

 (K7, FA 24-90)

 This was not rendered in BW, BTW.

 Rick

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Re: OT PESO - My Ride

2011-09-08 Thread David J Brooks
Super, i really like your night work.

Dave

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:52 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 G'day All,

 Here's a last minute shot from a night under the stars in the mountains:

 http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6192/6067577264_56267bddf2_o.jpg

 D700, 14-24mm f2.8 @ 14mm, 120 seconds @ f5.6, ISO 3200 with a little
 maglite lightpainting.

 Enjoy.

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OT: For fans of Burning Man

2011-09-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://xkcd.com/948/

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Re: OT PESO - My Ride

2011-09-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
It is indeed a striking and effective image.

Dan
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On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:28 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Super, i really like your night work.

 Dave

 On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:52 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 G'day All,

 Here's a last minute shot from a night under the stars in the mountains:

 http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6192/6067577264_56267bddf2_o.jpg

 D700, 14-24mm f2.8 @ 14mm, 120 seconds @ f5.6, ISO 3200 with a little
 maglite lightpainting.

 Enjoy.

 Cheers,

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Epson R3000

2011-09-08 Thread Igor Roshchin

Hi All:

Has anybody had any experience with the new Espon R3000 printer yet?
It seems to have all the features of R2880, plus a few advanatages:
you don't need to swap between two black cartridges, and you have
Ethernet/WiFi connection in addition to the USB.

Does anybody know if there is anything that would be missing in R3000
compared to R2880?

Igor

PS. I don't expect anybody to miss me, but in case you were wondering
why I was silent in the past ~2 months: - we had a newborn 
daughter, and then, in addition to that, I had an international 
conference trip.


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Re: OT: For fans of Burning Man

2011-09-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

http://xkcd.com/948/

Even further off topic, but I love this one: http://xkcd.com/946/


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Black Snake On Bldg. #1

2011-09-08 Thread Don Guthrie
After being absent from the list for the summer (due to illness) I have 
been catching up w/o participating. Herewith is my 1st offering for CC.


http://donspix.posterous.com/black-snake-on-building-one

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Re: Black Snake On Bldg. #1

2011-09-08 Thread Jack Davis
Exceedingly well done, Don.  DOF and lighting, superb!

Jack


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Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 8:39 AM
Subject: Black Snake On Bldg. #1

After being absent from the list for the summer (due to illness) I have been 
catching up w/o participating. Herewith is my 1st offering for CC.

http://donspix.posterous.com/black-snake-on-building-one

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Re: Black Snake On Bldg. #1

2011-09-08 Thread Darren Addy
Glad to have you back, Don.
I like it a lot.

Darren Addy
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Re: OT: real photo postcard from pre WWI

2011-09-08 Thread John Sessoms

From: Ann Sanfedele


Another postcard from my friends family.. calling all chemists

This is a very glossy photo - anyone know anything about this kind of
tinting back then? I can't figure it out... not a traditional tinting
where the whole photo would have been colored.. or was it once and
lost other colors? Is the yellow. thre is sime silvering out but it
sint'very noticiable because of the background exposure.

anyone?

 
http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Things-Im-selling-directly-Not/6280507_84bVv7/1/1468163517_sJnbMK3/Large




Hand painted with tinting oils.

http://www.google.com/search?q=hand+tinted+photographshl=enprmd=ivnstbm=ischtbo=usource=univsa=Xei=XOVoTtrPL5DPgAe99YjdDAved=0CC0QsAQbiw=1415bih=864

OR

http://preview.tinyurl.com/445vyhd

Probably Marshall's Retouching Oils.

http://www.reuels.com/reuels/Marshalls_Photo_Retouch_Photo_Tinting_Sets.html

Studied the technique during my Professional Photo Retouching class 
during my final semester this summer. Some high dollar portrait 
photographers still use it.


The actual tinting is usually subcontracted out to someone like Heather 
The Painter.


Not the real Heather The Painter, she does Corel Painter, but a similar 
contractor. Point is, you can hire it done  according to my instructors 
at school it's one of those little things that return BIG BUCK$.


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Re: OT: For fans of Burning Man

2011-09-08 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 8, 2011, at 10:11, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 http://xkcd.com/948/
 
 Even further off topic, but I love this one: http://xkcd.com/946/
 

Let's veer even further off-topic then with this related comic:

http://www.whattheduck.net/home?page=0%2C4

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RE: PESO: As High as an Elephant's Eye

2011-09-08 Thread John Sessoms

From: Daniel J. Matyola

http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=128

Comments Welcome

Dan
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Based on the only New Jersey elephant I'm aware of, that makes it about 
43 feet. ;-D


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Re: OT: real photo postcard from pre WWI

2011-09-08 Thread Jack Davis
Agree!
 
Jack


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Subject: Re: OT:  real photo postcard from pre WWI

From: Ann Sanfedele

 Another postcard from my friends family.. calling all chemists
 
 This is a very glossy photo - anyone know anything about this kind of
 tinting back then? I can't figure it out... not a traditional tinting
 where the whole photo would have been colored.. or was it once and
 lost other colors? Is the yellow. thre is sime silvering out but it
 sint'very noticiable because of the background exposure.
 
 anyone?
 
  http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Things-Im-selling-directly-Not/6280507_84bVv7/1/1468163517_sJnbMK3/Large
 
 

Hand painted with tinting oils.

http://www.google.com/search?q=hand+tinted+photographshl=enprmd=ivnstbm=ischtbo=usource=univsa=Xei=XOVoTtrPL5DPgAe99YjdDAved=0CC0QsAQbiw=1415bih=864

OR

http://preview.tinyurl.com/445vyhd

Probably Marshall's Retouching Oils.

http://www.reuels.com/reuels/Marshalls_Photo_Retouch_Photo_Tinting_Sets.html

Studied the technique during my Professional Photo Retouching class during my 
final semester this summer. Some high dollar portrait photographers still use 
it.

The actual tinting is usually subcontracted out to someone like Heather The 
Painter.

Not the real Heather The Painter, she does Corel Painter, but a similar 
contractor. Point is, you can hire it done  according to my instructors at 
school it's one of those little things that return BIG BUCK$.

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Re: Pentax K-Q adapter and an OT rant about corporate silliness

2011-09-08 Thread Anthony Farr
On 8 September 2011 20:27, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
 I wrote:

 Anthony Farr wrote:

 What a hoot!
 http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/475/272/html/005.jpg.html

 Good luck hand-holding that combo.  Anyone know the crop factor for the Q?

 5x, hence the DA 40mm acts as a 200mm at least!


So that's 1250mm of full frame equivalence!  Even if you could hold it
you shouldn't.

 While the soon-to-be-announced Nikon should be somewhere around 2.5x.

 Pity that Sony does not make a 4/3 format sensor, as their current sensor
 technology will allow them to blow away Panasonic. My dream mirrorless
 camera is a m43 shaped like a rangefinder (viewfinder included) with a Sony
 sensor.


You probably won't see a Sony sensored m43 camera because Sony isn't
part of the Micro Four Thirds consortium, which comprises Olympus,
Panasonic, Cosina (Voigtlander), Carl Zeiss AG, Jos. Schneider
Optische Werke GmbH, Komamura Corporation and Sigma Corporation.
Perhaps Cosina could do an m43 pseudo rangefinder with a Sony sensor,
if the fine-print of the consortium's agreement allows it.

It's my opinion that the Panasonic 10MP 4/3 sensor, with its poor
low-light performance, was the weak link in full sized FourThirds
cameras.  At least when Kodak made DSLR sensors there was competition
and choice, but I feel that their 4/3 monopoly made Panasonic lazy.
The subsequent 12.3MP 4/3 sensor is a better match for the
competition, but only the premium models got it.  The entry level
models, where first impressions are made, were left with the old 10MP
sensor.  Combined with slow kit zoom lenses they performed well below
the benchmarks of their day at ISO800 and up, and must have cost
Olympus a sizeable amount of repeat business. They didn't make that
mistake a second time, the m43 EPs and EPLs (Electronic Pens) were
never saddled with the 10MP sensor, and have been good sellers and
performers.

Sony, Nikon and Pentax were very lucky that the old 6MP CCD, the
mainstay of their early DSLRs and later entry level DSLRs, was a good
performer with acceptable quality at its higher ISOs.

What I can't for the life of me understand is why Sigma, who is a full
partner in the FourThirds consortium, kept its DSLRs quarantined from
4/3 even though the sensor was just millimetres different in size.
That Foveon sensor in the FourThirds camp would have boosted
everyone's sales.  While not having any worthwhile low-light
performance its unique selling proposition of superb colour
reproduction and high sharpness due to interpolation-free capture
would have brought a shipload of wedding, portrait and fashion
professionals into the fold.  But Sigma in its hubris coveted all the
sales from those users, sales they then didn't get because image
conscious professionals wouldn't be seen dead with a Sigma camera.  I
can't help thinking that many an Olympus using professional might have
added a Sigma 4/3 body to their bag for portrait shooting if such a
thing had existed.  Nice shooting of your own foot, Sigma, to make a
camera that wants to be pro-gear but can only take a Sigma lens.  What
a joke!  Not that Sigma lenses are no good, but nobody's going to jump
brands to get one.  I notice that Sigma SD1s are being pushed on eBay
at less than MSRP.  Hmmm, why am I not surprised?

 Not so different from a Sony NEX-7 after all... hmmm... mumble mumble...
 pity it's a Sony, with their so-so management of their excellent sensors and
 a weird flash shoe on top of that.

 Dario


At least they've made their good components available to other brands.
 They were a supplier of DSLR sensors before they acquired
KonicaMinolta, were they not?  As they were already supplying other
brands and earning good money from it, the benefits of exclusivity
weren't clear cut to them.

regards, Anthony

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to those who lack in mind and sight
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Re: lighting idea, would it work?

2011-09-08 Thread John Sessoms

On 11-09-07 10:12 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Bruce Walker


But I've played with a new feature in CS5 that helps with this: the Auto
Edge Detect tool in Refine Selection is very smart. It does a great job
with texture, hair, etc.  I've been able to lift a flower off a
background, use Content Aware Fill to create plausible new background
where the flower was, then lens-blur the background and superimpose the
flower back.  Results were just about perfect.

I would definitely try green screen before this projection technology.

For me, a regular painted background is preferable to either of them.

Shop around. I found a good quality 10'x20' on sale for $50.00

Or use out of doors locations where you can throw the background
pleasingly out of focus.

Good idea on the painted backgrounds. My neighbor does custom fashion
display windows. I'm going to see if I can bum some painted backdrops
from him sometime.

One out of doors subject that almost *requires* mucking with background
extraction is the handsome flower that is growing close to some scruffy
hedge.  You can go all F1.4 in your attempt to DoF the hedge out, but
then you lose detail in the flower. Or you can go F8 and preserve the
flower detail but end up with a noisy, unattractive background.

So now I extract the flower, content-aware-fill in the cutout, lens-blur
the background, and layer blend the flower back in place.

I hear that some people suspend a backdrop behind a flower in an ugly
setting to solve this. I've tried using a black reflector, with mixed
results. Too much light fell on the reflector--hard to avoid.


Or you could use the black reflector to shade the background causing it 
to drop out. I've done that.


For a background behind a flower I've used an old poncho liner on 
occasion.


Or, move closer to the flower; split the difference  use F4; let 
selective focus emphasize the particular detail that's attractive and 
slightly blur out the background.


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Re: Black Snake On Bldg. #1

2011-09-08 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-09-08 11:39 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:
After being absent from the list for the summer (due to illness) I 
have been catching up w/o participating. 


Sorry to hear that. I hope you're well recovered.



Herewith is my 1st offering for CC.

http://donspix.posterous.com/black-snake-on-building-one


Nice. I like the PoV and composition, Don.  I think, though, that the 
local contrast boosting is a little too obvious (visible as a dark halo 
around the building edges, against the sky).


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Re: PESO - Parking

2011-09-08 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Dave!

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 Excellent line work here
 
 Dave
 
 On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
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  Another from walks home from work last week:
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14142976size=lg
 
  (K7, FA 24-90)
 
  This was not rendered in BW, BTW.
 
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Re: interesting trends...

2011-09-08 Thread William Robb

On 08/09/2011 3:49 AM, Anthony Farr wrote:

On 8 September 2011 12:35, Subashpdml.l...@gmail.com  wrote:

these are only figures for japan/asia but interesting nonetheless.
canon and nikon lose a combined 35% market share while sony doubles it.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-07/canon-clinging-to-mirrors-means-opportunity-for-sony-cameras.html

so, is the dslr dead yet? perhaps there's hope for the Q :)

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I found this quote quite revealing,
 'Mirrorless cameras are a threat,' said David Rubenstein, a
Tokyo-based analyst at MF Global FXA Securities Ltd

I guess they would be a threat to companies that choose to oppose the
trend rather than embrace it.

Some observations:

Non adoption of autofocus cut the SLR market from perhaps twenty or
more brands in the sixties and early seventies to less than ten.
(Topcon, anyone?  Or Miranda?  Yashica?  Petri?)   Contax and Olympus
both flubbed their AF implimentations, but Olympus redeemed itself
with a confident early digital program.


Topcon, Miranda and Petri were gone long before AF came about. They left 
about the same time auto exposure came along.
You may as well toss Mamiya in there as well, with their lamentable 35mm 
SLR attempts.
Yashica and Contax were one and the same at the time of AF, both were 
owned by Kyocera.









My prediction is that within five years the only DSLRs will be a few
premium and professional models, perhaps one from each surviving major
player.

I also predict that within ten years their won't be DSLRs in the 4/3
to 135 range.

This was longer than I thought it'd be, so thanks for reading.

EVF type cameras are going to happen, whether we want or like them or 
not. They cost less to produce, which makes them attractive to 
manufacturers, and they are the newest thing, which makes them 
attractive to marketers and people who buy based on hype rather than 
function.
My only hope is that they can make a decent EVF (they are still crap) 
before the choice of optical viewfinder is taken away from us entirely.


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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread Ken Waller
Its just a matter of finding a small enough, twisty enough track and/or 
racing in the rain. One of my regional races, way back when, was at 
Waterford Hills, Michigan - named by Stirling Moss as one of the best small 
tracks he'd ever seen.


I was driving a 72 Pinto that competed in the under 2.0 L Trans Am. For the 
feature race, run in the rain, I outran several higher horsepower race cars 
and finished ahead of them. They were all over the track in the rain.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: John Francis jo...@panix.com

Subject: Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History



On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 11:37:21PM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote:

On 2011-09-07 22:39, Anthony Farr wrote:

But
they were much more powerful and faster in a straight line.  Through
the bendy bits they really were mobile chicanes.

Several run groups at your typical SCCA event will have that flavor,
due to the classes that end up combined sometimes.  I think the
worst I've seen was a run group that included both GT1 monster
horsepower cars and GT-Lites (or was it GT4 back then) which handled
like roller skates but had zip for power compared to the GT1 cars.
GT1s took off like scalded cats on the straights, and got caught up
by the Lites in the twisty bits.  Lap after lap after lap.


Nothing new there.  That's exactly the scenario that unfolded around
40 years ago, except in that case the powerhouses were Ford Galaxies,
and the roller skates were Mini Coopers.



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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread Ken Waller
Enjoy the experience - the Cayman should be a touch faster than the Boxster 
if they're both the base or 'S' model.


Be sure to relate the experience here.

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Subject: Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History



On 7/9/11, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:


On the track, I'm sure that you're a real tosser.


Just thought I'd chip in here to stir a bit :)

Filming corporate video tomorrow for one of my clients who are holding
an annual conference with morning seminars. In the afternoon, the 60 odd
delegates will get some track time, which we can film also. Track time?
Yup - the venue is the Porsche Experience Centre at Silverstone, with
the race circuit just feet away hosting a Le Mans series this weekend
IIRC. The other cameraman and me will be having a go in either a Cayman
or a Boxster :) I told him shiny side up please.

Then three days of editing !!

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Re: OT: For fans of Burning Man

2011-09-08 Thread Ken Waller
Or maybe the rear window on the right should have cartoons of animals 
instead of bags of money.


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From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com


Subject: Re: OT: For fans of Burning Man



Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:


http://xkcd.com/948/


Even further off topic, but I love this one: http://xkcd.com/946/



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Re: Black Snake On Bldg. #1

2011-09-08 Thread Ken Waller
Well seen  captured but I'd eliminate about half of the blank sky above the 
building.


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From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com

Subject: Black Snake On Bldg. #1


After being absent from the list for the summer (due to illness) I have 
been catching up w/o participating. Herewith is my 1st offering for CC.


http://donspix.posterous.com/black-snake-on-building-one



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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread William Robb

On 08/09/2011 3:08 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:






What if Aussies go to Canada?



We teach them about beer and barbecuing.

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Re: PESO: As High as an Elephant's Eye

2011-09-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Oh, you have seen Lucy?  One of our great attractions.

I have seen other elephants in Jersey -- when the Big Apple Circus is
in town, and this grass is about as high as their eyes, 12 feet or so.
 I can't believe how quickly this stuff grows every year.

Dan

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On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:24 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Daniel J. Matyola


 http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=128

 Comments Welcome

 Dan
 Dan Matyola
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 Based on the only New Jersey elephant I'm aware of, that makes it about 43
 feet. ;-D

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Re: Pentax K-Q adapter

2011-09-08 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 09:46:20AM +0200, Dario Bonazza wrote:
 Just to see how it looks:
 http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20110905_475272.html

Hmm.

What's the set of numbers 7654321 0 on the knurled ring?


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Re: Epson R3000

2011-09-08 Thread Paul Sorenson
Can't say about the R3000, but I have the R2000 and so far it's great. 
Has much the same features of the R3000 - no swapping black carts, USB, 
Ethernet  WIFi, same paper sizes.  The inkset is different, though - 
similar to the R1900, but larger carts.  And the R3000 is a couple 
hundred dollars more expensive.


If you want to run WiFi, be sure you are n capable.  We have U-Verse 
and ATT does not have any n routers so I had to use a separate router 
for the printer WiFi.


-p

On 9/8/2011 9:53 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


Hi All:

Has anybody had any experience with the new Espon R3000 printer yet?
It seems to have all the features of R2880, plus a few advanatages:
you don't need to swap between two black cartridges, and you have
Ethernet/WiFi connection in addition to the USB.

Does anybody know if there is anything that would be missing in R3000
compared to R2880?

Igor

PS. I don't expect anybody to miss me, but in case you were wondering
why I was silent in the past ~2 months: - we had a newborn
daughter, and then, in addition to that, I had an international
conference trip.




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Re: Pentax K-Q adapter

2011-09-08 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 08:01:33PM +1000, Anthony Farr wrote:
 On 8 September 2011 17:46, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
  Just to see how it looks:
  http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20110905_475272.html
 
  Dario
 
 
 What a hoot!
 http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/475/272/html/005.jpg.html
 
 Good luck hand-holding that combo.  Anyone know the crop factor for the Q?

About 6 (it's a 6.17 x 4.55mm sensor).

And that's a DA lens, so there's no aperture ring.  And with no digital
communication between the body and the camera, you're stuck with manual
focus at full aperture :-(


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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 08:20:10AM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote:
 On 2011-09-08 1:30, John Francis wrote:
 
 Nothing new there.  That's exactly the scenario that unfolded around
 40 years ago, except in that case the powerhouses were Ford Galaxies,
 and the roller skates were Mini Coopers.
 
 It's pretty much unavoidable when the day is long enough for six or
 seven run groups and you're trying to stuff thirty or forty classes
 into them.  That doesn't make it less frustrating on track, though.

Oh, the Minis-vs-Galaxies battles were extremely entertaining (at least
from a spectator viewpoint).  I've seen them at Silverstone (a circuit
with long, fast straights where the Galaxies disappeared in the distance)
and on the club circuit at Brands Hatch (1.3 twisty miles).

The cars would pass and re-pass each other at several different points on
every lap, but still got to the start-finish line in about the same time.


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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread Jim King
Three of my favorite ripostes are by Winston Churchill:

Lady Astor to Churchill: Winston, if you were my husband I would flavour your 
coffee with poison.
Churchill: Madam, if I were your husband, I should drink it.

Bessie Braddock to Churchill: Winston, you're drunk! 
Churchill: Bessie, you're ugly, very ugly.  Tomorrow morning I shall be sober.

Playwright George Bernard Shaw invited Winston Churchill to the first night of 
his newest play, enclosing two tickets:
“One for yourself and one for a friend – if you have one.”
Churchill wrote back, saying he couldn’t make it, but he would like tickets for 
the second night – “if there is one.”


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Re: OT: real photo postcard from pre WWI

2011-09-08 Thread Anthony Farr
On 9 September 2011 02:09, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Hand painted with tinting oils.

 http://www.google.com/search?q=hand+tinted+photographshl=enprmd=ivnstbm=ischtbo=usource=univsa=Xei=XOVoTtrPL5DPgAe99YjdDAved=0CC0QsAQbiw=1415bih=864

 OR

 http://preview.tinyurl.com/445vyhd

 Probably Marshall's Retouching Oils.

 http://www.reuels.com/reuels/Marshalls_Photo_Retouch_Photo_Tinting_Sets.html




Were Marshall's already in business in 1912, the postmark date on
Ann's postcard?  I can't find any history of them at all.

Also, you should look at the postcard at 200% or more and you'll see
that the colouring is very sloppily applied and has bled or blotted
into the print.  Remember that this isn't fine art, it's a cheap
postcard (or it was when it was new, anyway).  The blotting and the
cheapness makes me think oils are an unlikely colouring medium because
it is necessary to size the print first to prevent absorption of the
colours into the paper, if Wikipedia is to be trusted:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand-colouring_of_photographs

On the other hand, I've never retouched with oils, only dyes and
waxes.  The waxes I used could leave a glossy finish because after
retouching you would apply a little heat (hot breath was usually
enough) to release the pigment into the emulsion, after which the
residual wax could be buffed away.   But the postcard looks like it
was coloured with a wet medium (because of the bleeding), ruling out
wax I think.

I'm interested to learn if a high glaze can be maintained after
colouring with oils, because Ann remarked that the postcard was very
glossy.  Do the oils themselves dry glossy?  Can they be buffed?

It could have been varnished, but I think unmounted paper, even if
double weight, varnished in 1912 would be showing cracks by now.

Dye or ink wash is still my guess, because they would penetrate well
into the emulsion and allow the print to be glazed after retouching.
I'm not certain that would be possible with oil or watercolour
retouching because they are surface treatments.

I'm not married to these ideas, so I'm willing to be proven mistaken.

regards, Anthony

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*ist-Ds battery longevity?

2011-09-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Yes I know the Ds is hopelessly outdated, but I've been using it as my 
backup/carry anywhere camera, and until recently it was serving 
admirably.  Now however it's acquired a new annoying behavior, to wit, 
after loading a new set of lithium batteries it will totally drain them, 
in less than a week, even when turned off.  Now my *ist D has always 
been a battery hog, but the Ds now even seems to beat that.  I have now 
idea what might be wrong but I was wondering if anyone else had a clue.  
Needless to say it's not worth getting it repaired, a good used one from 
KEH is going for less than the repair bill would be.


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Re: Pentax K-Q adapter

2011-09-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
That may be fine.  The diffraction limit for that small a sensor might
be arount 2.8-4

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:13 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 08:01:33PM +1000, Anthony Farr wrote:
 On 8 September 2011 17:46, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
  Just to see how it looks:
  http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20110905_475272.html
 
  Dario
 

 What a hoot!
 http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/475/272/html/005.jpg.html

 Good luck hand-holding that combo.  Anyone know the crop factor for the Q?

 About 6 (it's a 6.17 x 4.55mm sensor).

 And that's a DA lens, so there's no aperture ring.  And with no digital
 communication between the body and the camera, you're stuck with manual
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Re: Pentax K-Q adapter

2011-09-08 Thread Anthony Farr
On 9 September 2011 04:13, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:


 And that's a DA lens, so there's no aperture ring.  And with no digital
 communication between the body and the camera, you're stuck with manual
 focus at full aperture :-(




Here's the Bing translation of the relevent text,

But the date is TBD. It is said that even if it was released just a
prototype of this specification is not always.

 KQ-mount adapter was exhibited electrical contacts at all without
focus, manual exposure metering only and rather narrow specification.
No aperture ring K mount lenses, such as the DA lens ( ) of merits and
against was equipped geared ring aperture mount adapter.

 Venue DA 40 mm F2.8 Limited and DA the 60-250 mm F4 ED [IF] SDM with
demo had been done. DA 40 mm F2.8 Limited 35 mm equivalent focal
length 220 mm equivalent, DA the 60-250 mm F4 ED [IF] SDM is 1,375 mm
equivalent. Ultra Telephoto angle can be obtained in small systems.

I take that to mean it was a prototype explaining why it didn't yet
have AE or AF contacts, and a liberal interpretation suggests it will
have a geared ring adapter for K mount lenses, such as the DA lens
that have no aperture ring.

regards, Anthony

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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

Its just a matter of finding a small enough, twisty enough track and/or 
racing in the rain. One of my regional races, way back when, was at 
Waterford Hills, Michigan - named by Stirling Moss as one of the best small 
tracks he'd ever seen.

I was driving a 72 Pinto that competed in the under 2.0 L Trans Am. For the 
feature race, run in the rain, I outran several higher horsepower race cars 
and finished ahead of them. They were all over the track in the rain.

I did an endurance race in the rain once. On an FZR400 I was able to
pass quite a few GSXR750s and similar big bikes that simply couldn't
get any power down. After my friend came in from the first shift he
warned me not to exit corners above 7000 rpm, which is odd because
standard procedure with the FZR400 was to always keep the revs between
10-14 thou. But the first time I tried coming out of a corner at 8000
rpm showed me in quite dramatic fashion that 7000 was the right
number!


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Re: Pentax K-Q adapter

2011-09-08 Thread Sam L
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
 Just to see how it looks:
 http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20110905_475272.html

 Dario

Obviously pentax has to make an adapter from K to Q mount.

Yet I have never seen anything quite as retarded.  It is a little
bit like mounting a race engine to a bicycle.

If you bought the Q, you wanted a small camera.  If you mount anything
but a Q (or similar tiny lens),
then your camera is no longer small.

Sorry for stating the obvious!

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Re: *ist-Ds battery longevity?

2011-09-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
My ist*Ds was always decent in terms of battery life.
One spare set of lithiums is all I ever carried.
How about when you turn the camera off?
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:47 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes I know the Ds is hopelessly outdated, but I've been using it as my
 backup/carry anywhere camera, and until recently it was serving admirably.
  Now however it's acquired a new annoying behavior, to wit, after loading a
 new set of lithium batteries it will totally drain them, in less than a
 week, even when turned off.  Now my *ist D has always been a battery hog,
 but the Ds now even seems to beat that.  I have now idea what might be wrong
 but I was wondering if anyone else had a clue.  Needless to say it's not
 worth getting it repaired, a good used one from KEH is going for less than
 the repair bill would be.

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Re: Pentax K-Q adapter

2011-09-08 Thread William Robb

On 08/09/2011 1:25 PM, Sam L wrote:






Yet I have never seen anything quite as retarded.  It is a little
bit like mounting a race engine to a bicycle.

If you bought the Q, you wanted a small camera.  If you mount anything
but a Q (or similar tiny lens),
then your camera is no longer small.

Sorry for stating the obvious!


Have you looked at a NEX with any lens mounted?

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Re: Pentax K-Q adapter

2011-09-08 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 03:25:05PM -0400, Sam L wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it 
 wrote:
  Just to see how it looks:
  http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20110905_475272.html
 
  Dario
 
 Obviously pentax has to make an adapter from K to Q mount.
 
 Yet I have never seen anything quite as retarded.  It is a little
 bit like mounting a race engine to a bicycle.
 
 If you bought the Q, you wanted a small camera.  If you mount anything
 but a Q (or similar tiny lens),
 then your camera is no longer small.
 
 Sorry for stating the obvious!

But, even more obviously, it's a whole lot smaller (and cheaper)
than a conventional DSLR  lens combo  with the same angle of view.

So buying a Q to get a smaller setup still makes sense, as long as
the delivered image quality is good enough to meet your requirements.




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Re: *ist-Ds battery longevity?

2011-09-08 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-09-08 2:47 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Yes I know the Ds is hopelessly outdated, but I've been using it as my 
backup/carry anywhere camera, and until recently it was serving 
admirably.  Now however it's acquired a new annoying behavior, to wit, 
after loading a new set of lithium batteries it will totally drain 
them, in less than a week, even when turned off.  Now my *ist D has 
always been a battery hog, but the Ds now even seems to beat that.  I 
have now idea what might be wrong but I was wondering if anyone else 
had a clue.  Needless to say it's not worth getting it repaired, a 
good used one from KEH is going for less than the repair bill would be.


Are you absolutely certain the lithiums are good?  All the cells?  One 
weak one will make the whole set appear weak after little use.


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FS: FA 24-90

2011-09-08 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Well, it's that time.
Time to get back to tightening up during unemployment.
So the 24-90 has to go. 
Got it from Boris.  And it is a very satisfying lens.
$250 shipped in US.
A bit more overseas.

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Re: Epson R3000

2011-09-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/9/11, Igor Roshchin, discombobulated, unleashed:

- we had a newborn
daughter

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Re: Epson R3000

2011-09-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Igor Roshchin wrote:

we had a newborn daughter

Best kind to have ;-)
Congratulations!

 
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Re: OT: real photo postcard from pre WWI

2011-09-08 Thread Darren Addy
What is often called hand-tinted was more likely done with stencils
in a semi-automatic process called the Pathécolor process, which was
originally developed for postcards and wallpaper. The example Ann
shows was likely just a one-color wash on the blooms. The process
could be repeated with multiple colors and eventually was used to
create color slides and movies long before the invention of true color
film.

http://bioscopic.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/colourful-stories-no-9-they-do-it-with-stencils/

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Re: *ist-Ds battery longevity?

2011-09-08 Thread P. J. Alling
That's the problem, it was turned off.  I put the batteries in just 
before Irene hit and picked up the camera today. batteries were flat 
lined.  This is the third time something similar happened.


On 9/8/2011 3:28 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

My ist*Ds was always decent in terms of battery life.
One spare set of lithiums is all I ever carried.
How about when you turn the camera off?
Regards,  Bob S.

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Yes I know the Ds is hopelessly outdated, but I've been using it as my
backup/carry anywhere camera, and until recently it was serving admirably.
  Now however it's acquired a new annoying behavior, to wit, after loading a
new set of lithium batteries it will totally drain them, in less than a
week, even when turned off.  Now my *ist D has always been a battery hog,
but the Ds now even seems to beat that.  I have now idea what might be wrong
but I was wondering if anyone else had a clue.  Needless to say it's not
worth getting it repaired, a good used one from KEH is going for less than
the repair bill would be.

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Re: Pentax K-Q adapter

2011-09-08 Thread P. J. Alling
The ring marked 0-7 is probably a manual stop down ring.  But even with 
that this is an extraordinarily silly proposition.



On 9/8/2011 2:13 PM, John Francis wrote:

On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 08:01:33PM +1000, Anthony Farr wrote:

On 8 September 2011 17:46, Dario Bonazzadario.bona...@virgilio.it  wrote:

Just to see how it looks:
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20110905_475272.html

Dario


What a hoot!
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/475/272/html/005.jpg.html

Good luck hand-holding that combo.  Anyone know the crop factor for the Q?

About 6 (it's a 6.17 x 4.55mm sensor).

And that's a DA lens, so there's no aperture ring.  And with no digital
communication between the body and the camera, you're stuck with manual
focus at full aperture :-(





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Re: Pentax K-Q adapter

2011-09-08 Thread P. J. Alling

On 9/8/2011 3:38 PM, William Robb wrote:

On 08/09/2011 1:25 PM, Sam L wrote:






Yet I have never seen anything quite as retarded.  It is a little
bit like mounting a race engine to a bicycle.

If you bought the Q, you wanted a small camera.  If you mount anything
but a Q (or similar tiny lens),
then your camera is no longer small.

Sorry for stating the obvious!


Have you looked at a NEX with any lens mounted?


Which I think makes the point nicely.

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Re: Can anyone identify this beetle?

2011-09-08 Thread P. J. Alling

Hum, I thought it was George.

On 9/8/2011 2:28 AM, David Savage wrote:

That's Ringo.

On 6 September 2011 13:30, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com  wrote:

That's beetle, not beatle:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627605282212/

He's about 2.5 (6cm) long.  Found in the Santa Cruz mountains.

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Re: OT The 30 Harshest Artist-on-Artist Insults In History

2011-09-08 Thread P. J. Alling

On 9/7/2011 5:33 PM, Bob W wrote:

Bob W wrote:


One of the greatest art feuds was between Leonardo da Vinci and
Michelangelo. Leonardo famously said that Michelangelo's anatomical

pictures

look like a bag of walnuts.

And I agree with him.

The version of the story I heard had him using sack of potatoes, but
DaVinci probably wouldn't have been familiar with that New World food
so bag of walnuts makes more sense. And, yes, he was right.

Mark Roberts - Photography  Multimedia
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recent research into his childhood sketchbooks have proved that in fact
Leonardo da Vinci invented the potato.

B

And the Florence Fry, an idea almost immediately stolen by the French...

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Re: Pentax K-Q adapter

2011-09-08 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 8, 2011, at 2:16 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 On 9/8/2011 3:38 PM, William Robb wrote:
 On 08/09/2011 1:25 PM, Sam L wrote:
 
 
 
 Yet I have never seen anything quite as retarded.  It is a little
 bit like mounting a race engine to a bicycle.
 
 If you bought the Q, you wanted a small camera.  If you mount anything
 but a Q (or similar tiny lens),
 then your camera is no longer small.
 
 Sorry for stating the obvious!
 
 Have you looked at a NEX with any lens mounted?
 
 Which I think makes the point nicely.

Don't expect marketing to have any basis in reality. When (a vast percentage 
of) people are shopping for something like the Q they will merely look at the 
ticky box that says that they *can* mount their camera to K-mount lenses,  they 
won't look at the ticky box that says whether it's a good idea.

Although, to be honest, I'm very curious to see what sort of moon photos I 
could get with a Q mounted to my bigma.  I suspect that at 500mm the moon would 
more than fill the frame. It'll be the center of the FOV, so the sharpest part 
of the lens.  With the bigma mounted on a tripod, I wouldn't tremendously care 
what the body was like. And to be honest, with the weird angles I've had a lens 
aimed at for lunar photography, live view would probably be a lot easier to 
deal with than the optical viewfinder.

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Re: Pentax K-Q adapter

2011-09-08 Thread Tom C
 On 08/09/2011 1:25 PM, Sam L wrote:



 Yet I have never seen anything quite as retarded.  It is a little
 bit like mounting a race engine to a bicycle.

 If you bought the Q, you wanted a small camera.  If you mount anything
 but a Q (or similar tiny lens),
 then your camera is no longer small.

 Sorry for stating the obvious!

 Have you looked at a NEX with any lens mounted?

 --

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I can't believe all the nay-sayers regarding a small camera with a
large lens, who haven't purchased and used such a camera. For one,
it's not much different than using an SLR with a gigantic 500mm,
600mm, 1000mm, etc., lens on it. Second, the small camera body, even
with a large lens, still reduces the total package size and weight by
a significant percentage. Third, the proof is in the results, not in
the gear.

Tom C.

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Re: Pentax K-Q adapter

2011-09-08 Thread William Robb

On 08/09/2011 3:16 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

On 9/8/2011 3:38 PM, William Robb wrote:

On 08/09/2011 1:25 PM, Sam L wrote:






Yet I have never seen anything quite as retarded. It is a little
bit like mounting a race engine to a bicycle.

If you bought the Q, you wanted a small camera. If you mount anything
but a Q (or similar tiny lens),
then your camera is no longer small.

Sorry for stating the obvious!


Have you looked at a NEX with any lens mounted?


Which I think makes the point nicely.



Except that the whole world is cumming in their pants over the NEX.

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Re: Pentax K-Q adapter

2011-09-08 Thread William Robb

On 08/09/2011 4:15 PM, Tom C wrote:

On 08/09/2011 1:25 PM, Sam L wrote:






Yet I have never seen anything quite as retarded.  It is a little
bit like mounting a race engine to a bicycle.

If you bought the Q, you wanted a small camera.  If you mount anything
but a Q (or similar tiny lens),
then your camera is no longer small.

Sorry for stating the obvious!


Have you looked at a NEX with any lens mounted?

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I can't believe all the nay-sayers regarding a small camera with a
large lens, who haven't purchased and used such a camera. For one,
it's not much different than using an SLR with a gigantic 500mm,
600mm, 1000mm, etc., lens on it. Second, the small camera body, even
with a large lens, still reduces the total package size and weight by
a significant percentage. Third, the proof is in the results, not in
the gear.



I'm gonna play the Devil's Advocate for a moment.
You are certainly stating the obvious regarding size, but what is 
perhaps getting lost is the usability of said package. I'd happily be 
proven wrong, but tossing a NEX sized camera onto the back of a sizable 
lens, say an 80-200/2.8, might make for a really badly balanced package 
that is a PITA to use simply because the small body shape doesn't give 
enough to hold onto. I read a post on PentaxForum from some guy who had 
seen a bunch of people having exactly that problem at some sort of 
sports event.
The weight difference between a NEX and a small SLR (I used the Pentax 
Kr as a reference) is less than 12 ounces.


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Re: Pentax K-Q adapter

2011-09-08 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 7:07 PM, William Robb
anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:

 Except that the whole world is cumming in their pants over the NEX.

That explains all the floods we're having.

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OT: Sick, drunk or half-stupid

2011-09-08 Thread Bob W
Don't you just hate it when you find a drunken elk in your apple tree?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14842999

We should invite it to join the PDMLk.

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Re: OT: 24 Hi Res Images From World War II

2011-09-08 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Sep 6, 2011, at 18:28 , Doug Franklin wrote:

 Yep, those are B-24s, if you're talking about the seventh image from the top 
 on page two.  I'm kinda partial to the second one from the top of page 2, 
 just because I've always been somewhat entranced by train artillery (the 
 original form of rail gun).

My father, R.G. McAllister, was a Sergeant in the 723rd Railway Operating 
Battalion in WW II. After 10 months of training after he was called up, he 
embarked for England Aug 11, 1944. They docked in Liverpool on the 22nd, 
disembarked on the 24th, then 30 hours later boarded a British ship in 
Southampton. Two days later (a slow sailing waiting for the beach to be ready) 
at 1600 hrs on the 26th they loaded up into L.C.I.'s and headed for Utah beach 
in France, where they gathered up their equipment and personal gear then headed 
inland. They caught a convoy on the 28th and made it to Le Mans by 1330 hrs on 
the 29th. 

On September 9th, after working for a week under the command of the 708th 
Railway Grand Division repairing the rails and getting under steam, they moved 
on to Surdon where the Battalion Headquarters was established.  When the 
Battalion arrived in Surdon, there was much to be done. Most of the buildings 
had been damaged by air attack. The railroad yards were in poor condition and 
there were no facilities for handling other than a mere trickle of traffic. On 
September 14th, the Advance party with it's hundreds of tons of heavy 
equipment, prime movers to picks and shovels, arrived.

What his Battalion was responsible for in essence was repairing damaged track 
and rail yards as fast as possible to allow the locomotives my father worked 
with to carry supplies to the front line(s). They had to keep up with the 
forward movement of the troops as they liberated France, turning the lines and 
equipment over to the French crews as they became available.  

My father was a yard locomotive engineer, a keeper of records and maps for the 
Battalion, and when not busy doing that, he had to crawl into and repair or 
overhaul with new pipe the boilers, clean and repair the fireboxes, grease the 
parts that needed it, oil those that did not, fire them up and take them out 
for testing before they were turned over to the long haul engineers and crews.

The Battalion moved to Dreux France to re-establish it's headquarters on 
October 25th. They had by now established 70.4 miles of good track through to 
Argentan. They kept enough locomotives and tenders operable to work that 
trackage 24 hours a day. Leaving Dreux they were treated to a parade, flowers, 
bands, food (women?) by the residents returning from wherever they hid to avoid 
capture by the Germans. By Christmas, they had 110 miles operating to the front 
beyond Versailles.

On March 12 of 1945 the entire remaining rail system was turned over to the 
French. The 723rd left on four trains to re-establish themselves in - Germany! 
- at Munchen-Gladbach by 1200 noon on the 15th. One year to the day and hour 
they started their training in Lincoln, Nebraska, plus someplace in Texas where 
they had a European railway system and rolling stock set up to play with.

The main line of operation was from Herzogenrath to Geldern in priority 
movement support of the Ninth Army. They operated under decent amount of shell 
fire, though no lives were lost, just track needing repair. The Ninth soon 
broke through the German Rhine defenses. The day was taken off on the 14th of 
April to honor the death of President Roosevelt.

In the month of April an estimated 125,000 prisoners of war and 29,000 French 
and Belgium repatriates, in addition  to the constant movement of supplies 
foreword to the lightening advances of the troops. The 723rd's most important 
and exacting task was the repair and rebuilding of the Gouldin Bridge at Wesel 
- first railroad span constructed across the Rhine River. The 723rd got the 
responsibility of that span from completion until VE-Day. A daily average of 16 
Eastbound trains crossed the bridge every day, about one per hour. The same was 
true of the empties or troop trains heading West. What was significant was that 
it was a single track bridge in support of the American 1st, 9th, and 15th 
Armies, as well as the British 2nd Army. A self-imposed bottleneck that took 
careful tending and control to make everything work trouble free. Thank Company 
A, the signal, track, and bridge platoon, my father's in B company, the 
car, shop, and roundhouse platoon.

The war ended on the 9th of May, but wasn't over for the 723rd. They still 
maintained control and responsibility of the road from the border of Germany 
over the Victory Bridge at Duisberg on to the city of Hamm, plus all associated 
spur track. The Allies hired former German railroad employees before the end of 
the war to rebuild the circuits of the electrically operated switches and 
control towers in the various yards. Once the war ended, we utilized all former 
German 

Bad Photochop On The Move

2011-09-08 Thread Doug Franklin
What do you do when you've created an awesomely bad Photochop of your 
van?  You pay someone to turn it into a decal for the rear window of 
said van, of course!


http://www.youdrivewhat.com/vantastic-2/

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Re: interesting trends...

2011-09-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
I'm really curious to see a Q review.  Still, it's really expensive.
 I think it would have a real chance at $400-500.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:11 PM, William Robb
anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 08/09/2011 3:49 AM, Anthony Farr wrote:

 On 8 September 2011 12:35, Subashpdml.l...@gmail.com  wrote:

 these are only figures for japan/asia but interesting nonetheless.
 canon and nikon lose a combined 35% market share while sony doubles it.


 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-07/canon-clinging-to-mirrors-means-opportunity-for-sony-cameras.html

 so, is the dslr dead yet? perhaps there's hope for the Q :)

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 I found this quote quite revealing,
  'Mirrorless cameras are a threat,' said David Rubenstein, a
 Tokyo-based analyst at MF Global FXA Securities Ltd

 I guess they would be a threat to companies that choose to oppose the
 trend rather than embrace it.

 Some observations:

 Non adoption of autofocus cut the SLR market from perhaps twenty or
 more brands in the sixties and early seventies to less than ten.
 (Topcon, anyone?  Or Miranda?  Yashica?  Petri?)   Contax and Olympus
 both flubbed their AF implimentations, but Olympus redeemed itself
 with a confident early digital program.

 Topcon, Miranda and Petri were gone long before AF came about. They left
 about the same time auto exposure came along.
 You may as well toss Mamiya in there as well, with their lamentable 35mm SLR
 attempts.
 Yashica and Contax were one and the same at the time of AF, both were owned
 by Kyocera.





 My prediction is that within five years the only DSLRs will be a few
 premium and professional models, perhaps one from each surviving major
 player.

 I also predict that within ten years their won't be DSLRs in the 4/3
 to 135 range.

 This was longer than I thought it'd be, so thanks for reading.

 EVF type cameras are going to happen, whether we want or like them or not.
 They cost less to produce, which makes them attractive to manufacturers, and
 they are the newest thing, which makes them attractive to marketers and
 people who buy based on hype rather than function.
 My only hope is that they can make a decent EVF (they are still crap) before
 the choice of optical viewfinder is taken away from us entirely.

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Re: Bad Photochop On The Move

2011-09-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Too bad the right front wheel fell offand the whole mess is about to tip 
over. Nice.
Paul
On Sep 8, 2011, at 7:43 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

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 You pay someone to turn it into a decal for the rear window of said van, of 
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Re: OT: real photo postcard from pre WWI

2011-09-08 Thread Anthony Farr
On 9 September 2011 07:02, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 What is often called hand-tinted was more likely done with stencils
 in a semi-automatic process called the Pathécolor process, which was
 originally developed for postcards and wallpaper. The example Ann
 shows was likely just a one-color wash on the blooms. The process
 could be repeated with multiple colors and eventually was used to
 create color slides and movies long before the invention of true color
 film.

 http://bioscopic.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/colourful-stories-no-9-they-do-it-with-stencils/



I like the sound of that explanation.  While there's only a single
reference to its having been adopted from methods used for colouring
postcards and wallpaper, the page was about movie print colouring so
I mustn't grumble.  I would have liked more information on the
workflow and the actual colouring medium used for paper rather than
film, but overall the explanation fits the appearance of Ann's
postcard.

Diid anyone notice the addressing of this postcard.  It's a sign of
much simpler times when an item addressed as sparsely as

Miss Myrtle Jacobson
Park Ridge
Ill

 successfully arrives at its destination.

regards, Anthony

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    to those who lack in mind and sight
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Re: Epson R3000

2011-09-08 Thread Igor Roshchin

Paul,

Thank you for your response. I've been happy for the most part 
with my R2880 for about 2.5 years now. I doubt I can justify upgrading
it. The R3000 will actually be for my brother to whom I advertised the
R2880, and who discovered what seems to be the newer model, R3000.

I am surprised thought that R3000 is not backward compatible with g,
as I thought all the n devices must be.

Igor


Thu Sep 8 14:08:35 EDT 2011
Paul Sorenson wrote:

Can't say about the R3000, but I have the R2000 and so far it's great. 
Has much the same features of the R3000 - no swapping black carts, USB, 
Ethernet  WIFi, same paper sizes.  The inkset is different, though - 
similar to the R1900, but larger carts.  And the R3000 is a couple 
hundred dollars more expensive.

If you want to run WiFi, be sure you are n capable.  We have U-Verse 
and ATT does not have any n routers so I had to use a separate router 
for the printer WiFi.

-p

On 9/8/2011 9:53 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

 Hi All:

 Has anybody had any experience with the new Espon R3000 printer yet?
 It seems to have all the features of R2880, plus a few advanatages:
 you don't need to swap between two black cartridges, and you have
 Ethernet/WiFi connection in addition to the USB.

 Does anybody know if there is anything that would be missing in R3000
 compared to R2880?

 Igor

 PS. I don't expect anybody to miss me, but in case you were wondering
 why I was silent in the past ~2 months: - we had a newborn
 daughter, and then, in addition to that, I had an international
 conference trip.




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Re: Epson R3000

2011-09-08 Thread Igor Roshchin

Thank you, guys!

Mark, I noticed your irony. ;-)


Igor


Thu Sep 8 16:27:00 EDT 2011
Cotty wrote:

 On 8/9/11, Igor Roshchin, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 - we had a newborn
 daughter
 
 Congrats Igor!


Thu Sep 8 17:00:30 EDT 2011
Mark Roberts wrote:

 Igor Roshchin wrote:
 
 we had a newborn daughter
 
 Best kind to have ;-)
 Congratulations!

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Re: OT: 24 Hi Res Images From World War II

2011-09-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Joe,
My Uncle was a toy train enthusiast and a public health officer at the
outbreak of WWII.
His parents were Polish and he couldn't stand being a civilian with
other men in uniform.
He got himself a commission and couldn't get into the war in health,
so he transfered.
He served in a railroad unit in Europe.  His name was Harry Krzywicki.
 Maybe with your dad.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:
 On Sep 6, 2011, at 18:28 , Doug Franklin wrote:

 Yep, those are B-24s, if you're talking about the seventh image from the top 
 on page two.  I'm kinda partial to the second one from the top of page 2, 
 just because I've always been somewhat entranced by train artillery (the 
 original form of rail gun).

 My father, R.G. McAllister, was a Sergeant in the 723rd Railway Operating 
 Battalion in WW II. After 10 months of training after he was called up, he 
 embarked for England Aug 11, 1944. They docked in Liverpool on the 22nd, 
 disembarked on the 24th, then 30 hours later boarded a British ship in 
 Southampton. Two days later (a slow sailing waiting for the beach to be 
 ready) at 1600 hrs on the 26th they loaded up into L.C.I.'s and headed for 
 Utah beach in France, where they gathered up their equipment and personal 
 gear then headed inland. They caught a convoy on the 28th and made it to Le 
 Mans by 1330 hrs on the 29th.

 On September 9th, after working for a week under the command of the 708th 
 Railway Grand Division repairing the rails and getting under steam, they 
 moved on to Surdon where the Battalion Headquarters was established.  When 
 the Battalion arrived in Surdon, there was much to be done. Most of the 
 buildings had been damaged by air attack. The railroad yards were in poor 
 condition and there were no facilities for handling other than a mere trickle 
 of traffic. On September 14th, the Advance party with it's hundreds of tons 
 of heavy equipment, prime movers to picks and shovels, arrived.

 What his Battalion was responsible for in essence was repairing damaged track 
 and rail yards as fast as possible to allow the locomotives my father worked 
 with to carry supplies to the front line(s). They had to keep up with the 
 forward movement of the troops as they liberated France, turning the lines 
 and equipment over to the French crews as they became available.

 My father was a yard locomotive engineer, a keeper of records and maps for 
 the Battalion, and when not busy doing that, he had to crawl into and repair 
 or overhaul with new pipe the boilers, clean and repair the fireboxes, grease 
 the parts that needed it, oil those that did not, fire them up and take them 
 out for testing before they were turned over to the long haul engineers and 
 crews.

 The Battalion moved to Dreux France to re-establish it's headquarters on 
 October 25th. They had by now established 70.4 miles of good track through to 
 Argentan. They kept enough locomotives and tenders operable to work that 
 trackage 24 hours a day. Leaving Dreux they were treated to a parade, 
 flowers, bands, food (women?) by the residents returning from wherever they 
 hid to avoid capture by the Germans. By Christmas, they had 110 miles 
 operating to the front beyond Versailles.

 On March 12 of 1945 the entire remaining rail system was turned over to the 
 French. The 723rd left on four trains to re-establish themselves in - 
 Germany! - at Munchen-Gladbach by 1200 noon on the 15th. One year to the day 
 and hour they started their training in Lincoln, Nebraska, plus someplace in 
 Texas where they had a European railway system and rolling stock set up to 
 play with.

 The main line of operation was from Herzogenrath to Geldern in priority 
 movement support of the Ninth Army. They operated under decent amount of 
 shell fire, though no lives were lost, just track needing repair. The Ninth 
 soon broke through the German Rhine defenses. The day was taken off on the 
 14th of April to honor the death of President Roosevelt.

 In the month of April an estimated 125,000 prisoners of war and 29,000 French 
 and Belgium repatriates, in addition  to the constant movement of supplies 
 foreword to the lightening advances of the troops. The 723rd's most important 
 and exacting task was the repair and rebuilding of the Gouldin Bridge at 
 Wesel - first railroad span constructed across the Rhine River. The 723rd got 
 the responsibility of that span from completion until VE-Day. A daily average 
 of 16 Eastbound trains crossed the bridge every day, about one per hour. The 
 same was true of the empties or troop trains heading West. What was 
 significant was that it was a single track bridge in support of the American 
 1st, 9th, and 15th Armies, as well as the British 2nd Army. A self-imposed 
 bottleneck that took careful tending and control to make everything work 
 trouble free. Thank Company A, the signal, track, and bridge platoon, my 
 father's in B company, 

Re: Epson R3000

2011-09-08 Thread Rick Womer

--- On Thu, 9/8/11, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Igor Roshchin wrote:
 
 we had a newborn daughter
 
 Best kind to have ;-)
 Congratulations!

Oh, I dunno...  A former newborn daughter who's now on her own and out of the 
house is pretty nice, too!

Congratulations, Igor!  It is an incredible trip!

Rick


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Re: OT: real photo postcard from pre WWI

2011-09-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 9/8/2011 20:41, Anthony Farr wrote:
...


Diid anyone notice the addressing of this postcard.  It's a sign of
much simpler times when an item addressed as sparsely as

Miss Myrtle Jacobson
Park Ridge
Ill

 successfully arrives at its destination.

regards, Anthony



However ...here is another from close to the same time :-)

http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Things-Im-selling-directly-Not/6280507_84bVv7/1/1469870933_Ln5P3JS/Large

ann

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RE: OT: real photo postcard from pre WWI

2011-09-08 Thread John Coyle
Even fairly recently it can still work: my address in 1967-9 was
Mr. J D Coyle
Island of St. Helena
South Atlantic Ocean

Easy because the mail had to be picked up from the main Post Office in 
Jamestown.  The
island now has a postcode, but some mail still gets misdirected to California 
or South
West Africa.  Fortunately, the local St. Helena Island in Moreton Bay (off 
Brisbane) has
no residents other than museum staff and thus very little mail, so causes no 
confusion in
sorting offices.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



-Original Message-
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Sanfedele
Sent: Friday, 9 September 2011 11:46 AM
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On 9/8/2011 20:41, Anthony Farr wrote:
...

 Diid anyone notice the addressing of this postcard.  It's a sign of 
 much simpler times when an item addressed as sparsely as

 Miss Myrtle Jacobson
 Park Ridge
 Ill

  successfully arrives at its destination.

 regards, Anthony


However ...here is another from close to the same time :-)

http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Things-Im-selling-directly-Not/6280507_84bVv7/1/1469870933
_Ln5P3JS/Large

ann

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Re: OT: 24 Hi Res Images From World War II

2011-09-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:

Thank you for reading. 

Wow! Thanks for writing!

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Fuji stops produntion of several more film types

2011-09-08 Thread Mark Roberts
http://www.japancamerahunter.com/2011/09/fujifilm-announcement-the-future-of-film/


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Re: OT: 24 Hi Res Images From World War II

2011-09-08 Thread Joseph McAllister
I don't see any officers by that name. All enlisted men in companies A, B,  C 
are listed as coming from a state in the USA. They are alphabetized that way. 
Means the names are all jumbled up within each company. So that makes it 
difficult to know. If you want to look at them all, the rosters are on the 
middle pages of the website. Lots of images as well, but they are scans from 
the original book, so don't expect much.

http://usmrr.tripod.com/finsaga.htm


On Sep 8, 2011, at 18:02 , Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Joe,
 My Uncle was a toy train enthusiast and a public health officer at the
 outbreak of WWII.
 His parents were Polish and he couldn't stand being a civilian with
 other men in uniform.
 He got himself a commission and couldn't get into the war in health,
 so he transfered.
 He served in a railroad unit in Europe.  His name was Harry Krzywicki.
 Maybe with your dad.
 Regards,  Bob S.

Joseph McAllister
pentax...@mac.com

THE SENILITY PRAYER : 
Grant me the senility to forget the people
I never liked anyway, 
The good fortune to run into the ones I do, and 
The eyesight to tell the difference. 


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PESO: Center of Attention

2011-09-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=130

Comments Welcome.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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Re: OT: 24 Hi Res Images From World War II

2011-09-08 Thread Joseph McAllister

Thanks for thanking me for writing! If you have the time and are interested, 
I've included some statistics the 723rd racked up while in-country, as we 
Vietnam Vets say.

On Sep 8, 2011, at 19:30 , Mark Roberts wrote:

 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Thank you for reading. 
 
 Wow! Thanks for writing!

Some statistics, if you are interested. May not line up for you, I'm using 14 
pt Arial.

 TRAIN MOVEMENTS - FRANCE, 11 SEPT 1944 TO 12 MARCH 1945

  Eastbound   |
Westbound

No. Trains TotalLoadsNet tons  |No. Trains Total
LoadsNet tons

  3,851  144,978   1,797,402|   4,321   
  34,014414,249



TRAIN MOVEMENTS - GERMANY, 20 MARCH 1945 TO 15 JULY 1945

  Eastbound   |
Westbound

No. Trains TotalLoadsNet tons  |   No. Trains Total
LoadsNet tons

  3,03988,881   1,244,334   |   3,229   
  83,428  1,167,992


   TOTAL OPERATIONS IN EUROPEAN THEATRE

  No. Trains TotalLoadsNet tons   

 14,440  351,3014,623,977

  CAR, SHOP and ROUNDHOUSE

CAPTURED ENEMY FREIGHT No. CARSNo. Engines 
Serviced
PASSENGER CARS STENCILED   REPAIRED   and Repaired in
  
FranceGermany

 5,862   1,55215,540
 5,355



Joseph McAllister
Lots of gear, not much time

http://gallery.me.com/jomac


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