RE: This is called "damning with faint praise"...

[Bob W]

> 
> Hello Kitty meets Fisher Price on the Q:
> http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/510/875/html/61.jpg.html
> 
> Dario
> 

if I was a collector of overpriced, hideous little pink cameras, that's the
one I'd buy next.

B


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Re: This is called "damning with faint praise"...

[Dario Bonazza]

Hello Kitty meets Fisher Price on the Q:
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/510/875/html/61.jpg.html

Dario

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Headline: "Pentax K-01 mirrorless camera doesn't feel as cheap as it
looks" by the powerful engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/08/pentax-k-01-mirrorless-camera-doesnt-feel-as-cheap-as-it-looks/
(includes a hands-on video).
Another (lame) one here:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/8/2785906/pentax-k-01-hands-on-video

Darren Addy
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Re: OT PESO - Skipping Sparks

[David Mann]

On Feb 9, 2012, at 4:52 AM, David Savage wrote:

> G'day All,
> 
> This is how light painters dress up a boring beach side sunset:
> 
> 
> 
> Direct link:
> 
> 
> 
> D700, 14-24mm @ 20mm, 5 seconds @ f18, ISO 200, and the direction:
> "Try & hit me"

Bloody hell, that's pretty good.

Dave


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Re: Ricoh reshuffle sees Pentax take control of cameras

[mike wilson]

On 10/02/2012 02:52, William Robb wrote:

On 09/02/2012 3:15 PM, mike wilson wrote:

On 09/02/2012 16:28, Darren Addy wrote:

Surely one of the real assets that Pentax carries with it is its name
and name
recognition.


I was going to say "no" to this. Then, remembering that the whole world
and its dog has owned Pentax recently and therefore had access to its
coating technology, I thought that you are probably right. All Pentax
has now is a name.


Having had access to their coating technology is not the same as being
able to take advantage of it now. If the SMC patents stayed with Pentax,
then whatever Hoya does, they won't be using SMC coatings on it.
Pentax is as much a name as Nikon is, FWIW.
Nikon has been little more than a blip on Mitsubishi's balance sheet for
some 3 decades now. Funny how no one disses Nikon for that.



If you had hold of the company, would you let it go without some 
agreement on technology use?


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Re: February PUG is Up - All Aboard1!

[mike wilson]

On 08/02/2012 11:17, Brian Walters wrote:


A high standard throughout - hope we can keep it up for the rest of 2012.

As usual you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/


Not just good pictures but a number of new faces, too.  Having only just 
found time to look, I'm more than embarrased that I have not 
contributed.  Living in an area where the whole railway thing was 
concieved (apologies to the Russians reading) I really should have 
extracted my digit and contributed.  Maybe I'll screw a little 
photo-essay together.  But don't hold your breath.



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Re: PESO: House of the Sun

[David Mann]

On Feb 8, 2012, at 8:28 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> There WAS a 36 mile race from sea level to the Summit called The Run
> to the Sun, but the National Park administration has prohibited it.
> There is still and unofficial run to the sun every year, burt it is
> not the same.
> 
> http://www.hurthawaii.com/2011/02/unoffical-run-to-the-sun-haleakala-on-maui-march-20th-maui-charm-march-18-20th.html

Hmm that looks like a good candidate for the bucket list :D

> I may be a Marine, but I am far too old for that nonsense.

You'd be surprised how old some entrants in endurance races are... but maybe 
you'd rather not know!

Dave


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Re: K-01: This is called "damning with faint praise"...

[Philip Northeast]

Maybe it was a Freudian slip?

Philip Northeast

www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au

On 10/02/12 5:34 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

You've got to spell excited extremely badly for the auto correct to turn
it into excreted.

On 2/10/2012 1:27 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

I wouldn't say I hate it. I'm just not particularly excreted by or
interested in it;

On 2/10/2012 12:44 AM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

On 2/9/2012 10:22 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Headline: "Pentax K-01 mirrorless camera doesn't feel as cheap as it
looks" by the powerful engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/08/pentax-k-01-mirrorless-camera-doesnt-feel-as-cheap-as-it-looks/

(includes a hands-on video).
Another (lame) one here:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/8/2785906/pentax-k-01-hands-on-video

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

I wish I could say I hated it as much as everyone else. But, God help
me, I like the thing! Though, I'd prefer it in basic black, obviously.

-- Walt









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PESO: Smiling Ray

[Daniel J. Matyola]

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15143357&size=md

Comments and criticisms are invited.

Dan Matyola
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Re: K-01: This is called "damning with faint praise"...

[P. J. Alling]

You've got to spell excited extremely badly for the auto correct to turn 
it into excreted.


On 2/10/2012 1:27 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
I wouldn't say I hate it.  I'm just not particularly excreted by or 
interested in it;


On 2/10/2012 12:44 AM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

On 2/9/2012 10:22 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Headline: "Pentax K-01 mirrorless camera doesn't feel as cheap as it
looks" by the powerful engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/08/pentax-k-01-mirrorless-camera-doesnt-feel-as-cheap-as-it-looks/ 


(includes a hands-on video).
Another (lame) one here:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/8/2785906/pentax-k-01-hands-on-video

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska
I wish I could say I hated it as much as everyone else. But, God help 
me, I like the thing! Though, I'd prefer it in basic black, obviously.


-- Walt







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Re: K-01: This is called "damning with faint praise"...

[P. J. Alling]

I wouldn't say I hate it.  I'm just not particularly excreted by or 
interested in it;


On 2/10/2012 12:44 AM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

On 2/9/2012 10:22 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Headline: "Pentax K-01 mirrorless camera doesn't feel as cheap as it
looks" by the powerful engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/08/pentax-k-01-mirrorless-camera-doesnt-feel-as-cheap-as-it-looks/ 


(includes a hands-on video).
Another (lame) one here:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/8/2785906/pentax-k-01-hands-on-video

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska
I wish I could say I hated it as much as everyone else. But, God help 
me, I like the thing! Though, I'd prefer it in basic black, obviously.


-- Walt




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PESO -- One of the seven falls.

[P. J. Alling]

Taken at the seven falls state forest/recreation area.  I don't know 
what definition they were using for a waterfall but this was the only 
one that I thought was more than just rapids.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20oneofseven.html

Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: K-01: This is called "damning with faint praise"...

[Walt Gilbert]

On 2/10/2012 12:01 AM, John Francis wrote:

On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 11:44:18PM -0600, Walt Gilbert wrote:

On 2/9/2012 10:22 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Headline: "Pentax K-01 mirrorless camera doesn't feel as cheap as it
looks" by the powerful engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/08/pentax-k-01-mirrorless-camera-doesnt-feel-as-cheap-as-it-looks/
(includes a hands-on video).
Another (lame) one here:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/8/2785906/pentax-k-01-hands-on-video

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

I wish I could say I hated it as much as everyone else. But, God
help me, I like the thing! Though, I'd prefer it in basic black,
obviously.

I quite like the black/white one.  Not so keen on yellow, though.
I actually like the b/w, too -- and would more than happily use the 
yellow one given no other option. Besides, people who look like I do 
can't afford to get too hung up on appearances.


-- Walt

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Re: PESO - Ex Oriente Lux

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nice glow.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:48 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Got out this past weekend for a bit of pre-dawn action:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2012/02/ex-oriente-lux.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: K-01: This is called "damning with faint praise"...

[John Francis]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 11:44:18PM -0600, Walt Gilbert wrote:
> On 2/9/2012 10:22 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
> >Headline: "Pentax K-01 mirrorless camera doesn't feel as cheap as it
> >looks" by the powerful engadget:
> >http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/08/pentax-k-01-mirrorless-camera-doesnt-feel-as-cheap-as-it-looks/
> >(includes a hands-on video).
> >Another (lame) one here:
> >http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/8/2785906/pentax-k-01-hands-on-video
> >
> >Darren Addy
> >Kearney, Nebraska
> I wish I could say I hated it as much as everyone else. But, God
> help me, I like the thing! Though, I'd prefer it in basic black,
> obviously.

I quite like the black/white one.  Not so keen on yellow, though.


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Re: PESO: Upside -Down Jellyfish

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, David.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:42 AM, David Savage  wrote:
> Gawd I hate these things (but I like the shot).
>
> I grew up learning to swim in a river (technically an estuary) that
> every summer would be full of the damn things. Sometimes they were so
> thick you couldn't see water for all the jelly fish.
>
> Needless to say it took me quite a few summers to maser the art of diving.
>
> DS
>
> On 9 February 2012 03:13, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15135333
>>
>> Comments and criticisms are appreciated.
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Re: K-01: This is called "damning with faint praise"...

[Walt Gilbert]

On 2/9/2012 10:22 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Headline: "Pentax K-01 mirrorless camera doesn't feel as cheap as it
looks" by the powerful engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/08/pentax-k-01-mirrorless-camera-doesnt-feel-as-cheap-as-it-looks/
(includes a hands-on video).
Another (lame) one here:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/8/2785906/pentax-k-01-hands-on-video

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska
I wish I could say I hated it as much as everyone else. But, God help 
me, I like the thing! Though, I'd prefer it in basic black, obviously.


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Re: Has anyone compared ...

[Bob Sullivan]

Collin,
Going from memory, the A50/1.2 is soft to f2 at least.
The DA55/1.4 is much sharper wide open and autofocused.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Collin Brendemuehl
 wrote:
> either 50/1.2 with the DA55/1.4?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Collin Brendemuehl
> "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose"
> -- Jim Elliott
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Re: re PESO: Your Husband Called

[Daniel J. Matyola]

LOL
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> Well the last few years I got her flowers so I would have something colorful
> to photograph in the winter. But she caught on when I forgot to bring them
> in from the sun porch where the light was better for picture taking.
>
>
>
>> Message: 5 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 16:51:38 -0500 From: Steven Desjardins
>>  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List  Subject:
>> Re: re PESO: Your Husband Called Message-ID:
>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You're an ingenius and
>> courageous man, Don. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Don Guthrie
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Very clever good job spotting it. But not safe for wife viewing
>>> especially
>>> in Feb. I am planning to get her a new lens -something light so she can
>>> carry it for me on photo walks.
>
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Re: Comments on the new lenses and Optio WG-2

[Darren Addy]

Optio WG-2 is now showing on Adorama ($399) and B&H ($349) for preorder.
B&H price is $50 less than Adorama's but Adorama's mentions GPS
functionality and B&H's doesn't. ???

A hands-on gallery:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/9/2786252/pentax-optio-wg-2-gps-hands-on

Darren Addy
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Re: K-01: This is called "damning with faint praise"...

[Darren Addy]

PPS... that includes the 40mm pancake and is $100 less than Amazon's
current price for the K-5 body alone.

Darren Addy
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Re: K-01: This is called "damning with faint praise"...

[Darren Addy]

PS... It is now available for preorder at Amazon for $899

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K-01: This is called "damning with faint praise"...

[Darren Addy]

Headline: "Pentax K-01 mirrorless camera doesn't feel as cheap as it
looks" by the powerful engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/08/pentax-k-01-mirrorless-camera-doesnt-feel-as-cheap-as-it-looks/
(includes a hands-on video).
Another (lame) one here:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/8/2785906/pentax-k-01-hands-on-video

Darren Addy
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Re: Peso - Red and White

[Rick Womer]

I like this a lot--colors, textures, and composition are very appealing.

Rick
 
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http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/15389206_cBJMSB/1/1704842712_WfC43Zm/Large

When Brian mentioned that he liked Rick's recent photo of the little kid in a 
red jacket and the shdaows of her with her mom as a suitable
one for the March gallery I thought , mistakenly, that the subject for March 
was "red" not "shadows" and i immediately remembered this.  D'oh.

ain't shot much too recently, this was last March..

ann





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Re: Ricoh reshuffle sees Pentax take control of cameras

[Steven Desjardins]

Geoffrey?  rotfl!  That's a new low for the autocorrector.  At least I
don't think I accidentally spelled another name.

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 8:52 PM, William Robb
 wrote:
> On 09/02/2012 3:15 PM, mike wilson wrote:
>>
>> On 09/02/2012 16:28, Darren Addy wrote:
>>>
>>> Surely one of the real assets that Pentax carries with it is its name
>>> and name
>>> recognition.
>>
>>
>> I was going to say "no" to this. Then, remembering that the whole world
>> and its dog has owned Pentax recently and therefore had access to its
>> coating technology, I thought that you are probably right. All Pentax
>> has now is a name.
>
>
> Having had access to their coating technology is not the same as being able
> to take advantage of it now. If the SMC patents stayed with Pentax, then
> whatever Hoya does, they won't be using SMC coatings on it.
> Pentax is as much a name as Nikon is, FWIW.
> Nikon has been little more than a blip on Mitsubishi's balance sheet for
> some 3 decades now. Funny how no one disses Nikon for that.
>
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Re: Ricoh reshuffle sees Pentax take control of cameras

[William Robb]

On 09/02/2012 3:15 PM, mike wilson wrote:

On 09/02/2012 16:28, Darren Addy wrote:

Surely one of the real assets that Pentax carries with it is its name
and name
recognition.


I was going to say "no" to this. Then, remembering that the whole world
and its dog has owned Pentax recently and therefore had access to its
coating technology, I thought that you are probably right. All Pentax
has now is a name.


Having had access to their coating technology is not the same as being 
able to take advantage of it now. If the SMC patents stayed with Pentax, 
then whatever Hoya does, they won't be using SMC coatings on it.

Pentax is as much a name as Nikon is, FWIW.
Nikon has been little more than a blip on Mitsubishi's balance sheet for 
some 3 decades now. Funny how no one disses Nikon for that.


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Re: What would you do with a 50 1.2

[Mark C]

I'd sell it and put the money toward a lens that I knew I wanted. That's 
what I did with my old Rikenon 55mm f1.2. Gorgeous lens and I hated to 
part with it just because it was so solid, bright, and absolutely killer 
on the LX. That dang lens almost turned me into a ... COLLECTOR! Ye gods...


If you are asking what kind of project I'd do with an f1.2 I'd do 
something requiring shallow DOF and low light - but that extra half stop 
(compared to a 1.4 lens) don't get you much of either and there's not 
much that you *need* a 1.2 to do since from 1.4 on it is redundant with 
much more common lenses.


Mark

On 2/9/2012 3:02 PM, John Celio wrote:

I have an A 50mm 1.2 sitting around collecting dust. I don't have good
enough vision to focus manually with my K-5, and I don't trust the
focus indicator, so I rarely use the lens. After yesterday's
discussions of future lenses from Pentax and my discovery of how much
it goes for on eBay, I'm considering selling it to pay for future
purchases.

I'd like to put it to work a little before I make up my mind, but am
running short on inspiration lately, so I thought I'd post an informal
survey:

What would you do with a 50 1.2?

John




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Re: Comments on the new lenses and Optio WG-2

[Doug Franklin]

On 2012-02-08 14:31, John Celio wrote:


2. smc PENTAX-DA 560mm F5.6


I'd love to have it, but doubt that I ever will.  For one thing, I 
already have a Sigma APO 400/5.6 Macro in PK AF mount that works just 
fine.  For another, I also have the 1.7AF T/C, and it works just fine 
with the Sigma.  Plus, I expect this lens will cost a lot more than is 
reasonable for me to spend on it (I'm guessing it'll run at least US$ 
4K).  If I made money with my photos, that'd be one thing, but I just do 
it for myself.  I haven't even been able yet to justify a grand to 
replace my K10D with a K5.



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Re: OT - Nikon D800E Low Pass Filter

[David Savage]

On 10 February 2012 07:44, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Tom C  wrote:
>>
>> It's been reported that demand has outstripped initial supply (for the
>> D800, unsure about D800E) and that pre-orders have stopped. Though I
>> don't see that in evidence at B&H.
>
> And that's just from orders by former PDML members. ;)

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Re: OT: Cadillac Cue Infotainment System

[Doug Franklin]

On 2012-02-09 15:26, John Francis wrote:


the car system also controls more important functions (keyless entry, for
one), so it has to be significantly more robust than one used in a phone,
where the worst that can happen would be a dropped call.


There's no way on God's little green earth that an auto manufacturer is 
going to "open up" any part of the system that could compromise vehicle 
and occupant safety, beyond the effects of distraction, which is serious 
enough by itself.  So if they're going for "open" on the infotainment 
system, you can bet your bottom dollar it can't directly affect the 
safety and performance of the engine, trans, brake, etc.


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Re: OT - Nikon D800E Low Pass Filter

[Bruce Walker]

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Tom C  wrote:
>
> It's been reported that demand has outstripped initial supply (for the
> D800, unsure about D800E) and that pre-orders have stopped. Though I
> don't see that in evidence at B&H.

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Re: OT - Nikon D800E Low Pass Filter

[Tom C]

> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Tom C  wrote:
>> Continuing the side discussion on the D800E... it does have a low pass
>> filter, but apparently not an anti-aliasing filter. The 800E low pass
>> filter, being ostensibly in lower demand, commands a higher cost.
>>
>> http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-d800/nikon-d800A.HTM
>
> Reading the description, it sounds to me like the two offsetting OLPFs
> are present to ensure the same amount of refractive material in the
> optical path. That allows them to make the 800 and 800E mechanically
> identical (i.e. the sensor in the same position). It's sort of like
> telephoto lenses with rear filters... if you don't want to use a
> particular filter, you need to have a clear filter in place because
> the lens is designed with its refractive properties in mind.
>
> "In this way, the light has the same optical path through the LPF/IR
> filter stack as in the standard camera, but the effects of the first
> LPF layer are undone by the second. If the characteristics of the two
> LPFs are exactly opposite each other, the net result is the same as if
> there were no LPF at all."
>

Yes sounds like a clever solution and apparently in-camera firmware is
optimized to detect moire and minimize it.

It's been reported that demand has outstripped initial supply (for the
D800, unsure about D800E) and that pre-orders have stopped. Though I
don't see that in evidence at B&H.

Tom C.

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Re: Peso - Red and White

[Ann Sanfedele]

On 2/9/2012 18:23, Jack Davis wrote:

It's certainly better than "good enough" and I get your reasoning.

Jack



:-)
ann




From: Ann Sanfedele
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Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2012 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: Peso - Red and White

I actually had done a crop removing the partials on the right.. but
didnt like the feel of it. I did crop a bit on the left.  coudln't do
anything about the clipping of the two panels.

I actually put the guys on the right back in because of the clipping on
top and giving it a feeling of going on forever off the screen, as it
were.

I'll take a look at the set again, but I think what I showed you guys
was the best I could do under the circumstances.

ann


On 2/9/2012 12:21, Jack Davis wrote:

Like this, Ann. As a result, I'd have to fiddle with it some. I'd clone out the 
panels peeking in from the far right and, perhaps, do a slight crop to the left 
edge.
I could then deal with the missing corner on the top panel.


Jack

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Subject: Peso - Red and White



http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/15389206_cBJMSB/1/1704842712_WfC43Zm/Large

When Brian mentioned that he liked Rick's recent photo of the little kid in a 
red jacket and the shdaows of her with her mom as a suitable
one for the March gallery I thought , mistakenly, that the subject for March was "red" 
not "shadows" and i immediately remembered this.  D'oh.

ain't shot much too recently, this was last March..

ann





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RE: Has anyone compared ...

[JC OCONNELL]

or compared the K55/1.8 to the DA55/1.4?

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To: pdml
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either 50/1.2 with the DA55/1.4?

Sincerely, 

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Re: Peso - Red and White

[Jack Davis]

It's certainly better than "good enough" and I get your reasoning.

Jack



From: Ann Sanfedele 
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List  
Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2012 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: Peso - Red and White

I actually had done a crop removing the partials on the right.. but 
didnt like the feel of it. I did crop a bit on the left.  coudln't do 
anything about the clipping of the two panels.

I actually put the guys on the right back in because of the clipping on 
top and giving it a feeling of going on forever off the screen, as it 
were.

I'll take a look at the set again, but I think what I showed you guys 
was the best I could do under the circumstances.

ann


On 2/9/2012 12:21, Jack Davis wrote:
> Like this, Ann. As a result, I'd have to fiddle with it some. I'd clone out 
> the panels peeking in from the far right and, perhaps, do a slight crop to 
> the left edge.
> I could then deal with the missing corner on the top panel.
>
>
> Jack
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Ann Sanfedele
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Cc:
> Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2012 8:16 AM
> Subject: Peso - Red and White
>
>
>
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/15389206_cBJMSB/1/1704842712_WfC43Zm/Large
>
> When Brian mentioned that he liked Rick's recent photo of the little kid in a 
> red jacket and the shdaows of her with her mom as a suitable
> one for the March gallery I thought , mistakenly, that the subject for March 
> was "red" not "shadows" and i immediately remembered this.  D'oh.
>
> ain't shot much too recently, this was last March..
>
> ann
>
>
>
>
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Re: What would you do with a 50 1.2

[Larry Colen, l...@red4est.com (From Droid)]

I'd use it for my low light photography.  I may need to use live view to focus 
it.  
It would be very interesting to use it with a noughty one, wigh should have 
sufficient low light sensitivity and a fully functional live view.

John Celio  wrote:

>I have an A 50mm 1.2 sitting around collecting dust. I don't have good
>enough vision to focus manually with my K-5, and I don't trust the
>focus indicator, so I rarely use the lens. After yesterday's
>discussions of future lenses from Pentax and my discovery of how much
>it goes for on eBay, I'm considering selling it to pay for future
>purchases.
>
>I'd like to put it to work a little before I make up my mind, but am
>running short on inspiration lately, so I thought I'd post an informal
>survey:
>
>What would you do with a 50 1.2?
>
>John
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Re: What would you do with a 50 1.2

[Ann Sanfedele]

On 2/9/2012 15:02, John Celio wrote:

I have an A 50mm 1.2 sitting around collecting dust. I don't have good
enough vision to focus manually with my K-5, and I don't trust the
focus indicator, so I rarely use the lens. After yesterday's
discussions of future lenses from Pentax and my discovery of how much
it goes for on eBay, I'm considering selling it to pay for future
purchases.

I'd like to put it to work a little before I make up my mind, but am
running short on inspiration lately, so I thought I'd post an informal
survey:

What would you do with a 50 1.2?

John



Use it for low light situations when either the subject is far enough 
away that everything would be sharp anyway, or close-ups for very 
selective DOF.


ann

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Re: Peso - Red and White

[Ann Sanfedele]

Thanks Bulent, Jack, Don, Tim and Frank (et. al. - you know al. right? ))

they did kinda glow, the way the exhibit was done.  I have frames that
"explain" more about the show but there are a lot of those on line 
already, I think.


ann

On 2/9/2012 16:08, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Love it!

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Ann Sanfedele
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To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
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http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/15389206_cBJMSB/1/1704842712_WfC43Zm/Large

When Brian mentioned that he liked Rick's recent photo of the little kid
in a red jacket and the shdaows of her with her mom as a suitable
one for the March gallery I thought , mistakenly, that the subject for
March was "red" not "shadows" and i immediately remembered this.  D'oh.

ain't shot much too recently, this was last March..

ann







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Re: OT - Nikon D800E Low Pass Filter

[Matthew Hunt]

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Tom C  wrote:
> Continuing the side discussion on the D800E... it does have a low pass
> filter, but apparently not an anti-aliasing filter. The 800E low pass
> filter, being ostensibly in lower demand, commands a higher cost.
>
> http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-d800/nikon-d800A.HTM

Reading the description, it sounds to me like the two offsetting OLPFs
are present to ensure the same amount of refractive material in the
optical path. That allows them to make the 800 and 800E mechanically
identical (i.e. the sensor in the same position). It's sort of like
telephoto lenses with rear filters... if you don't want to use a
particular filter, you need to have a clear filter in place because
the lens is designed with its refractive properties in mind.

"In this way, the light has the same optical path through the LPF/IR
filter stack as in the standard camera, but the effects of the first
LPF layer are undone by the second. If the characteristics of the two
LPFs are exactly opposite each other, the net result is the same as if
there were no LPF at all."

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Has anyone compared ...

[Collin Brendemuehl]

either 50/1.2 with the DA55/1.4?

Sincerely, 

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Re: Peso - Red and White

[Ann Sanfedele]

I actually had done a crop removing the partials on the right.. but 
didnt like the feel of it. I did crop a bit on the left.  coudln't do 
anything about the clipping of the two panels.


I actually put the guys on the right back in because of the clipping on 
top and giving it a feeling of going on forever off the screen, as it 
were.


I'll take a look at the set again, but I think what I showed you guys 
was the best I could do under the circumstances.


ann


On 2/9/2012 12:21, Jack Davis wrote:

Like this, Ann. As a result, I'd have to fiddle with it some. I'd clone out the 
panels peeking in from the far right and, perhaps, do a slight crop to the left 
edge.
I could then deal with the missing corner on the top panel.


Jack

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Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2012 8:16 AM
Subject: Peso - Red and White



http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/15389206_cBJMSB/1/1704842712_WfC43Zm/Large

When Brian mentioned that he liked Rick's recent photo of the little kid in a 
red jacket and the shdaows of her with her mom as a suitable
one for the March gallery I thought , mistakenly, that the subject for March was "red" 
not "shadows" and i immediately remembered this.  D'oh.

ain't shot much too recently, this was last March..

ann





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OT - Nikon D800E Low Pass Filter

[Tom C]

Continuing the side discussion on the D800E... it does have a low pass
filter, but apparently not an anti-aliasing filter. The 800E low pass
filter, being ostensibly in lower demand, commands a higher cost.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-d800/nikon-d800A.HTM

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Re: What would you do with a 50 1.2

[Carlos R.]

El 09/02/2012 22:40, John Celio escribió:

What would you do with a 50 1.2?



I'd keep the lens and use it. I still regret having sold mine. I've had
a bunch of 50mm. lenses, and the SMC-A 50mm. 1.2 has been the best by a
wide margin. I don't mean the others I've had or still have (M 50mm.
1.4, A 1.7, F 1.7, DA 55mm. 1.4, Helios 44-K 58mm. 2.0) are bad, but the
one I've liked the best is the A 1.2


Maybe my copy needs service, but it's never seemed all that great to
me. What do you like about it?

John



I think it is better wide open than the M 50mm 1.4, which is a very good 
lens. It also betters it at mid apertures, and, in my view, has a more 
pleasant colour rendition. The M is a bit in the cold side, the F 50mm 
1.7 is very sharp but has a slightly hotter colour rendition, while the 
A 1.2 is more neutral for my eye.


But at the insanely high prices the A 50mm 1.2 is being sold for 
nowadays, perhaps it is a good time to sell it if you have no use for 
the lens and put that money towards other photo equipment you want or 
need more.


Carlos

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Re: Ricoh reshuffle sees Pentax take control of cameras

[mike wilson]

On 09/02/2012 16:28, Darren Addy wrote:

Surely one of the real assets that Pentax carries with it is its name and name
recognition.


I was going to say "no" to this.  Then, remembering that the whole world 
and its dog has owned Pentax recently and therefore had access to its 
coating technology, I thought that you are probably right.  All Pentax 
has now is a name.

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Re: What would you do with a 50 1.2

[Steven Desjardins]

Sell it while it's worth good money and put the money toward the K-5
replacement.  Seriously.  If you have to ask, then it's probably not a
lens your really use.

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:40 PM, John Celio
 wrote:
>>> What would you do with a 50 1.2?
>>>
>>
>> I'd keep the lens and use it. I still regret having sold mine. I've had
>> a bunch of 50mm. lenses, and the SMC-A 50mm. 1.2 has been the best by a
>> wide margin. I don't mean the others I've had or still have (M 50mm.
>> 1.4, A 1.7, F 1.7, DA 55mm. 1.4, Helios 44-K 58mm. 2.0) are bad, but the
>> one I've liked the best is the A 1.2
>
> Maybe my copy needs service, but it's never seemed all that great to
> me. What do you like about it?
>
> John
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Re: What would you do with a 50 1.2

[John Celio]

>> What would you do with a 50 1.2?
>>
>
> I'd keep the lens and use it. I still regret having sold mine. I've had
> a bunch of 50mm. lenses, and the SMC-A 50mm. 1.2 has been the best by a
> wide margin. I don't mean the others I've had or still have (M 50mm.
> 1.4, A 1.7, F 1.7, DA 55mm. 1.4, Helios 44-K 58mm. 2.0) are bad, but the
> one I've liked the best is the A 1.2

Maybe my copy needs service, but it's never seemed all that great to
me. What do you like about it?

John

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Re: OT: Cadillac Cue Infotainment System

[Paul Stenquist]

On Feb 9, 2012, at 3:50 PM, steve harley wrote:

> on 2012-02-09 13:26 John Francis wrote
>> On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 01:09:02PM -0700, steve harley wrote:
>>> 
>>> my laptop does about 100,000 mips (without considering the GPU)
>> 
>> Are you sure you didn't add an order of magnitude there?
> 
> yes, i'm sure; it's a quad i7 (2820QM); i took my numbers from here:
> 
> 
> 
> this article doesn't have my exact CPU but does have some useful comparisons, 
> including the ARM11 and a few i7s:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Mind you, your main point - that a 400MHz processor is a bit underpowered -
>> is spot-on.  My new cellphone, for example, has a two-core, 1GHz processor.
>> That's about 5x what Paul quoted for the in-car entertainment system. But
>> the car system also controls more important functions (keyless entry, for
>> one), so it has to be significantly more robust than one used in a phone,
>> where the worst that can happen would be a dropped call.
> 
> if i were making cars, i wouldn't have the infotainment system run any 
> critical functions

I know it operates the engine monitoring gauges. I doubt that it's involved 
with door locks. It's definitely not linked to the engine or powertrain control 
computers for anything other than some read-only information.

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Rocks & Viewfinders

[Don Guthrie]

There's been some discussion about view finders and their virtues. My 
1st Pentax slr was actually a Ricoh which used the pentax screw-mount . 
I can't remember the model but it's still around the basement somewhere 
and I still have the lenses (mostly Sears & JC Penny). I picked this 
model because it had a conventional viewfinder and a view finder on top 
as a poor man's waist level view. I had become somewhat accustomed to 
waist level taking pictures of high school basketball games with a 
Yashica TTL. Yeah really. Anyway I liked the Ricoh enough to buy a 
second body.


My first serious digital camera was a Nikon P&S which had an articulated 
viewfinder as well as standard eyepiece. I still use it when I need to 
shoot over my head like at a parade. And I used for a couple decent 
ground level views. But its many other shortcomings led me to a real 
DSLR and I went back to Pentax.


I did miss that moveable viewfinder the Nikon had. Now I have a K-5. I 
justified its purchase because of built in level. I have always had 
straiten 99 % of my photos. Now the K-5 has mostly cured that.


But my biggest surprise was the leveling could also be viewed on the 
topside LCD. That has meant that with a wide-angle lens I could hold the 
camera at waist level or even near the ground  and using top LCD pretty 
much get what I had intended. And I don't get my knees wet!


If you stayed with me so far here is your reward - an example photo.

http://donspix.posterous.com/like-a-rock-a-black-and-white-winter-scenic-w#!/

C&C on conversion and composition etc.are all fair game. But I would 
never have taken this photo without the K-5.


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RE: Peso - Red and White

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Love it!

cheers,
frank

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
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http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/15389206_cBJMSB/1/1704842712_WfC43Zm/Large

When Brian mentioned that he liked Rick's recent photo of the little kid 
in a red jacket and the shdaows of her with her mom as a suitable
one for the March gallery I thought , mistakenly, that the subject for 
March was "red" not "shadows" and i immediately remembered this.  D'oh.

ain't shot much too recently, this was last March..

ann





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Re: PESO - Ex Oriente Lux

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Thank you, Toine. And thanks to everyone else who commented. Sometimes it pays 
to get up early (although this was around 7:15am; not ~that~ early).

Ann, someone already answered, but the loose translation that I've heard is 
"from the east comes light".

A few of you have mentioned noise and I agree. I don't have Noise Ninja or 
anything like that so I figured I'd just leave it. Steve I'll have to try your 
suggestion though. 

"Grain good, noise bad."

;-)

cheers,
frank 

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lovely colors and a great composition.
Toine

On 9 February 2012 03:48, frank theriault  wrote:
> Got out this past weekend for a bit of pre-dawn action:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2012/02/ex-oriente-lux.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: OT: Cadillac Cue Infotainment System

[steve harley]

on 2012-02-09 13:26 John Francis wrote

On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 01:09:02PM -0700, steve harley wrote:


my laptop does about 100,000 mips (without considering the GPU)


Are you sure you didn't add an order of magnitude there?


yes, i'm sure; it's a quad i7 (2820QM); i took my numbers from here:



this article doesn't have my exact CPU but does have some useful comparisons, 
including the ARM11 and a few i7s:







Mind you, your main point - that a 400MHz processor is a bit underpowered -
is spot-on.  My new cellphone, for example, has a two-core, 1GHz processor.
That's about 5x what Paul quoted for the in-car entertainment system. But
the car system also controls more important functions (keyless entry, for
one), so it has to be significantly more robust than one used in a phone,
where the worst that can happen would be a dropped call.


if i were making cars, i wouldn't have the infotainment system run any critical 
functions



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RE: New lenses DA 560/5.6, DA 50/1.8

[JC OCONNELL]

yeah, but still working isnt as good as super precision feel and still
working.
jco

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on 2012-02-08 20:03 JC OCONNELL wrote
> Super-Multi-Coated Takumars are better built than SMC Takumars which are
> better built than SMCK lenses which are better built than SMCM lenses
which
> are better built than SMCA lenses.  I cant speak for the af lenses.
> As far as manual focus lenses go, each new series went downhill than the
> previous after the fabulous Super-Multi-Coated Takumars.

so it may be, but the fact that many of us are still using the lesser of
those 
builds decades later attests that on the whole the builds were pretty good

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Re: OT: Cadillac Cue Infotainment System

[John Francis]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 01:09:02PM -0700, steve harley wrote:
> 
> my laptop does about 100,000 mips (without considering the GPU)

Are you sure you didn't add an order of magnitude there?


A quad-core, 3GHz processor has 12,000M core-cycles a second. I find it
hard to believe that even modern processors dispatch 8 instructions
per cycle in a single core.

Mind you, your main point - that a 400MHz processor is a bit underpowered -
is spot-on.  My new cellphone, for example, has a two-core, 1GHz processor.
That's about 5x what Paul quoted for the in-car entertainment system. But
the car system also controls more important functions (keyless entry, for
one), so it has to be significantly more robust than one used in a phone,
where the worst that can happen would be a dropped call.




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Re: What would you do with a 50 1.2

[Paul Stenquist]

Low-light portraits. But I wouldn't pay the premium that lens demands for the 
minimal advantage it offers over a 50/1.4. 


On Feb 9, 2012, at 3:02 PM, John Celio wrote:

> I have an A 50mm 1.2 sitting around collecting dust. I don't have good
> enough vision to focus manually with my K-5, and I don't trust the
> focus indicator, so I rarely use the lens. After yesterday's
> discussions of future lenses from Pentax and my discovery of how much
> it goes for on eBay, I'm considering selling it to pay for future
> purchases.
> 
> I'd like to put it to work a little before I make up my mind, but am
> running short on inspiration lately, so I thought I'd post an informal
> survey:
> 
> What would you do with a 50 1.2?
> 
> John
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Re: What would you do with a 50 1.2

[Carlos R.]

El 09/02/2012 21:02, John Celio escribió:

I have an A 50mm 1.2 sitting around collecting dust. I don't have good
enough vision to focus manually with my K-5, and I don't trust the
focus indicator, so I rarely use the lens. After yesterday's
discussions of future lenses from Pentax and my discovery of how much
it goes for on eBay, I'm considering selling it to pay for future
purchases.

I'd like to put it to work a little before I make up my mind, but am
running short on inspiration lately, so I thought I'd post an informal
survey:

What would you do with a 50 1.2?



I'd keep the lens and use it. I still regret having sold mine. I've had 
a bunch of 50mm. lenses, and the SMC-A 50mm. 1.2 has been the best by a 
wide margin. I don't mean the others I've had or still have (M 50mm. 
1.4, A 1.7, F 1.7, DA 55mm. 1.4, Helios 44-K 58mm. 2.0) are bad, but the 
one I've liked the best is the A 1.2


Carlos

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Re: OT: Cadillac Cue Infotainment System

[Darren Addy]

Sounds like an extraordinary system for those interested in odometer tampering.

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

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Re: Frosty AM

[Don Guthrie]

Christine thanks for looking and commenting. It was a great hour of 
photography and for a change I was more or less prepared.  I still 
prefer a modest P&S over cel phone photography.




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On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:58 PM, David Mann  wrote:

On Feb 8, 2012, at 9:23 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


Like that first one best..

Same here, it's a fantastic photo. ?It almost looks as if it was shot in IR.

I was thinking the same thing!  Well done.


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Re: What would you do with a 50 1.2

[Darren Addy]

Had one (Pentax). Absolutely hated how soft it was wide open.
Sold it to pay for other purchases. The market on these is Stupid High
right now.
If another one dropped into my lap, I'd probably do it again.

Have a Canon FL 50mm f1.2 arriving tomorrow. It is a darn good lens
according to the Test Reports, particularly if you are just using the
center of the image circle. Plan to sell it to an NEX or GXR or 4/3
user.
: )

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:02 PM, John Celio
 wrote:
> I have an A 50mm 1.2 sitting around collecting dust. I don't have good
> enough vision to focus manually with my K-5, and I don't trust the
> focus indicator, so I rarely use the lens. After yesterday's
> discussions of future lenses from Pentax and my discovery of how much
> it goes for on eBay, I'm considering selling it to pay for future
> purchases.
>
> I'd like to put it to work a little before I make up my mind, but am
> running short on inspiration lately, so I thought I'd post an informal
> survey:
>
> What would you do with a 50 1.2?
>
> John
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Re: OT: Cadillac Cue Infotainment System

[steve harley]

on 2012-02-09 11:59 Paul Stenquist wrote

I'm off to GM tomorrow for a demo of the Cadillac Cue information and 
entertainment system that will be available later this year on ATS and XTS. 
Since the list is rife with programers, computer scientists and the like, I 
thought it might be of interest. I'll know more tomorrow, but so far I've 
learned that the system uses the Linux OS and is equipped with an ARM 11 3-core 
processor. The processor is capable of 400 million instructions (mips) per 
second. Is that substantial? Cadillac claims it's 3.5 times more powerful than 
any other automotive infotainment system. They've gone with open platform 
software because they want developers to write applications for it. Other 
details I'm aware of include proximity sensing for switching on and off, speech 
recognition, and the capacity to link to as many as ten blue-tooth or USB 
devices.


most impressive if it's truly an open system, which would imply you can load 
your own apps, even replace the OS ...


my impression is most car systems are woefully underpowered; this one may be a 
major step up, but it's no whirlwind ... mips (a measure of scalar operation 
rate) is not be the best measure of an infotainment system whose user 
experience is heavily dependent on graphics processing, but just for comparison 
i understand some of the faster tablets do something on the order of 1000 mips, 
and my laptop does about 100,000 mips (without considering the GPU 
performance); considering that tablets are optimized for battery life, 
something built into a car should not be nearly so constrained


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What would you do with a 50 1.2

[John Celio]

I have an A 50mm 1.2 sitting around collecting dust. I don't have good
enough vision to focus manually with my K-5, and I don't trust the
focus indicator, so I rarely use the lens. After yesterday's
discussions of future lenses from Pentax and my discovery of how much
it goes for on eBay, I'm considering selling it to pay for future
purchases.

I'd like to put it to work a little before I make up my mind, but am
running short on inspiration lately, so I thought I'd post an informal
survey:

What would you do with a 50 1.2?

John

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Re: OT - OM-D - WOW

[John Francis]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 10:20:04AM -0700, steve harley wrote:
> on 2012-02-08 01:44 Cotty wrote
> >
> >
> >Very cool.
> >
> >It's a viewfinder Jim but not as we know it
> 
> i am impressed by the promised functionality and the straightforward
> design; the live curve adjustment feature is nifty, though it's not
> clear whether it does anything to RAW exposures
> 
> the swivel screen is a half-measure; i wonder if anyone will dare
> eliminate the screen completely in favor of an EVF ? that would be a
> very "retro" design

My wife (the nominal owner of the E-PL1) would be very unhappy with
a camera that didn't have a rear screen.  I don't think I'd buy one,
either - chimping through the viewfinder, or simply showing your
shots to a colleague before you get to a computer, would be awkward.

What my wife would like, apparently, is a rear screen that can be
swivelled to point upwards, so she can hold and operate the camera
like a TLR. She came back from the figure skating and remarked on
that, totally spontaneously. She also came back with almost 1500
exposures. Thats 7GB of space - just as well I put an 8GB card in
the camera! She would have shot more, but the battery is only good
for around 300 shots, and we don't have a spare (yet), because up
to now she's never shot more that 20 or 30 images at one time.

The shutter lag of the E-PL1 makes shooting action sports rather
difficult, so a goodly proportion of those exposures are failures
for one reason or another.  But there are enough decent images to
be able to put together a gallery to show off (link to follow).


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re: Peso - Red and White

[Don Guthrie]

I like the way these glow & almost look like stained glass windows. Yes! 
you should shoot more.




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http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/15389206_cBJMSB/1/1704842712_WfC43Zm/Large

When Brian mentioned that he liked Rick's recent photo of the little kid
in a red jacket and the shdaows of her with her mom as a suitable
one for the March gallery I thought , mistakenly, that the subject for
March was "red" not "shadows" and i immediately remembered this.  D'oh.

ain't shot much too recently, this was last March..

ann



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Re: Ricoh reshuffle sees Pentax take control of cameras

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> I just meant that I don't think Ricoh acquired Pentax to make a bunch
> of money.  They want to make cameras for PR reasons, or something like
> that.
>
> BTW, the reaction to this news from some folks with the GXR is not
> altogether happy.  I guess they are afraid Pentax will mess up the
> Ricoh offerings.  How about you, Geoffrey?

Presuming that you're talking to me .. ;-)

With the release of the Ricoh GXR A12 Camera Mount, Ricoh hit a point
that perfectly suits what I had in mind. I might just buy another one
for backup eventually. Like the Olympus E-1, I think it's a classic,
nearly perfectly balanced camera. Not without its warts, but none of
the warts bug me.

Brands have fallen in and out of my favor over time. Even Nikon which
I used for 32 years ... I hated the transition they made into AF SLRs,
never bought one. They only came back to acceptable bodies, for me,
with the D200 and later. I have always found Nikon's lenses excellent
.. not to say there aren't better, but they've always been
consistently good and interesting.

When companies are merged or bought out, there is much at risk. Pentax
has had some good strengths, Ricoh as well. I just hope for the best
and buy what appeals to me, what I think will net advantage for my
photography. I don't care much what brand is on the front, I care
about equipment that does what I want it to.

If Pentax Imaging is now in charge of Ricoh camera development,
perhaps we get the best of both worlds: the Pentax brand name's
strength, excellent lens design, and visibility with Ricoh's attention
to detail, quality control, and savvy about making photographer
oriented cameras.

It's the products that drives me to like a brand, not the brand that
drives me to like the products.

-- 
Godfrey
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Re: OT - OM-D - WOW

[steve harley]

on 2012-02-09 11:13 Steven Desjardins wrote

i can't imagine
trying to navigate menus through an EVF.


i've done it on a GH1, it wasn't bad at all; not as comfortable as setting it 
on a table and casually sorting out the menus, but it was very straightforward; 
i took to the menu layout on the GH1 much more easily than on my K200d


i think a camera with just an EVF would pair nicely with an optional wireless 
tablet-sized "big-finder"


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Re: OT - OM-D - WOW

[steve harley]

on 2012-02-09 11:40 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Mark Roberts
  wrote:

I think Minolta had one with a rear-panel LCD. It would give you such
information as your depth of field - with near and far distance limits
- for the lens, aperture and focus distance you had set. I'd like to
have that feature now and I'm surprised no one offers it.


The Ricoh GXR has this feature with the autofocus camera units:


i'm sure a lot of others do too; i've used that feature on the Panasonic LX-3

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OT: Cadillac Cue Infotainment System

[Paul Stenquist]

I'm off to GM tomorrow for a demo of the Cadillac Cue information and 
entertainment system that will be available later this year on ATS and XTS. 
Since the list is rife with programers, computer scientists and the like, I 
thought it might be of interest. I'll know more tomorrow, but so far I've 
learned that the system uses the Linux OS and is equipped with an ARM 11 3-core 
processor. The processor is capable of 400 million instructions (mips) per 
second. Is that substantial? Cadillac claims it's 3.5 times more powerful than 
any other automotive infotainment system. They've gone with open platform 
software because they want developers to write applications for it. Other 
details I'm aware of include proximity sensing for switching on and off, speech 
recognition, and the capacity to link to as many as ten blue-tooth or USB 
devices.



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Re: OT PESO - Skipping Sparks

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Agreed. Quite amazing.

Cheers,
frank

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

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Sent: February 8, 2012 2/8/12
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Subject: Re: OT PESO - Skipping Sparks

That is really special.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:52 AM, David Savage  wrote:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/6841553405/in/photostream/lightbox/

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Re: OT - OM-D - WOW

[Mark Roberts]

"Dario Bonazza"  wrote:

>Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>> Steven Desjardins  wrote:
>>
>>>IIRC, film SLRs had B&W screens near
>>>the end just to mange all of their electronic options.
>>
>> I think Minolta had one with a rear-panel LCD. It would give you such
>> information as your depth of field - with near and far distance limits
>> - for the lens, aperture and focus distance you had set. I'd like to
>> have that feature now and I'm surprised no one offers it.
>
>A few years ago I suggested that to Pentax (I had the occasion to talk to 
>someone at the parent company in Japan, not  an importer). They replied they 
>did not want to do it because then users will complain that their pictures 
>are not sharp enough within the given depth of field.
>One could argument against that opinion, but I know that if they don't see a 
>reason, they don't see a reason, hence I gave up after just thinking a few 
>bad things.

I suspect that the reason you were given may just have been an excuse.
But now that Pentax has been taken over by Ricoh perhaps things may be
at the Ricoh different. I notice Godfrey reports that his Ricoh camera
has this feature.


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Re: PESO - Ex Oriente Lux

[Toine]

lovely colors and a great composition.
Toine

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> Got out this past weekend for a bit of pre-dawn action:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2012/02/ex-oriente-lux.html
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> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
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Re: PESO 2012 - 023 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Thanks for the comments!

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> Nice toning & textures. Abstract enough that even after the title I am not
> sure what I am looking at. Enjoyed studying it.

I made this same photo with both the 40mm and 21mm lenses. They are
interestingly different ... The balance of negative to positive space
changes the aesthetic quite a bit to my eye. The one made with the
wider field of view really needs a much larger space to have impact as
it is all about minute detail textures. I'll see if I can come up with
a reasonable representation that works on a web view.

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Re: OT - OM-D - WOW

[Dario Bonazza]

Mark Roberts wrote:


Steven Desjardins  wrote:


IIRC, film SLRs had B&W screens near
the end just to mange all of their electronic options.


I think Minolta had one with a rear-panel LCD. It would give you such
information as your depth of field - with near and far distance limits
- for the lens, aperture and focus distance you had set. I'd like to
have that feature now and I'm surprised no one offers it.


A few years ago I suggested that to Pentax (I had the occasion to talk to 
someone at the parent company in Japan, not  an importer). They replied they 
did not want to do it because then users will complain that their pictures 
are not sharp enough within the given depth of field.
One could argument against that opinion, but I know that if they don't see a 
reason, they don't see a reason, hence I gave up after just thinking a few 
bad things.


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Re: OT - OM-D - WOW

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On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> Steven Desjardins  wrote:
>
>>IIRC, film SLRs had B&W screens near
>>the end just to mange all of their electronic options.
>
> I think Minolta had one with a rear-panel LCD. It would give you such
> information as your depth of field - with near and far distance limits
> - for the lens, aperture and focus distance you had set. I'd like to
> have that feature now and I'm surprised no one offers it.

The Ricoh GXR has this feature with the autofocus camera units: switch
to manual focus mode and you get a focusing scale on the LCD or EVF
which shows the precise focus distance and the DoF range marked for
the aperture setting. It's very accurate and amazingly handy. I use it
a lot with the A12 50 and A12 28 camera units.
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Re: OT - OM-D - WOW

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On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Cotty  wrote:
> On 8/2/12, Steven Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>> The Pen-style e-p1 was a huge hit.  The new OM-D looks to be popular.
>> I hope for Pentax's sake that those younger folks line up for the
>>K-01.  ;-)  Seriously, the retro designs seem to cross generational
>>lines.  No explanation here, just an opinion based on observations of
>>recent successful designs.
>
> I have a theory Steve. If you think about it, you can make a camera look
> like absolutely anything in this day and age. Maybe what people want is
> something that just looks like a camera

And the reason that people want something that "just looks like a
camera" is that what "just looks like a camera" generally *works* like
a camera ought to work.

A friend of mine rescued a Nikon F Photomic FTn from the garbage bin
and is sending it to me. But before he did so, he loaded up a roll of
film and went out for a day's shoot with it. "My gosh, it's just like
the one you had! Every control is in just the right place, it just
works. I hate you already, just like I always did when you had that
camera!" That was my first SLR, bought back when I was in High School.
I loved it, still do. It works the way a camera ought to, and looks
the part.

Form follows function. The design of cameras is very nuanced. I hope
the Olympus E-M5 feels as good in the hand as an OM-4 did. My only
real concern is that it is a very petite camera (smaller than it
looks!) with lots of controls on its surfaces: it might prove to feel
a bit cramped. I hope not.

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Re: OT - OM-D - WOW

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Steven Desjardins  wrote:

>IIRC, film SLRs had B&W screens near
>the end just to mange all of their electronic options.

I think Minolta had one with a rear-panel LCD. It would give you such
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Re: PESO - Ex Oriente Lux

[Steven Desjardins]

Very nice.  If you PP in PS, you could try adding some film grain
using the filters.  It would mask some of the noise and keep the
details.  for some reason, folks seem more accepting of grain than
noise.

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> As always Frank you do color with equal facility to  your B&W. I much admire
> sunrise pictures like this. Alas I never get up in time to actually see one
> myself & thus rely on others.
>
>
>
>> On 2/8/2012 6:48 PM, frank theriault wrote:
>>>
>>> Got out this past weekend for a bit of pre-dawn action:
>>>
>>> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2012/02/ex-oriente-lux.html
>>
>> Lovely sunrise photo.
>>
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Re: OT - OM-D - WOW

[Steven Desjardins]

I should mention that those little screens were on top, obviously not
on the swinging film door.  ;-)

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> It would never sell in any significant numbers.  i can't imagine
> trying to navigate menus through an EVF.  Besides, most people like to
> look at their shots on the LCD.  IIRC, film SLRs had B&W screens near
> the end just to mange all of their electronic options.
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 12:20 PM, steve harley  wrote:
>> on 2012-02-08 01:44 Cotty wrote
>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Very cool.
>>>
>>> It's a viewfinder Jim but not as we know it
>>
>>
>> i am impressed by the promised functionality and the straightforward design;
>> the live curve adjustment feature is nifty, though it's not clear whether it
>> does anything to RAW exposures
>>
>> the swivel screen is a half-measure; i wonder if anyone will dare eliminate
>> the screen completely in favor of an EVF — that would be a very "retro"
>> design
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Re: OT - OM-D - WOW

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It would never sell in any significant numbers.  i can't imagine
trying to navigate menus through an EVF.  Besides, most people like to
look at their shots on the LCD.  IIRC, film SLRs had B&W screens near
the end just to mange all of their electronic options.

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 12:20 PM, steve harley  wrote:
> on 2012-02-08 01:44 Cotty wrote
>
>> 
>>
>> Very cool.
>>
>> It's a viewfinder Jim but not as we know it
>
>
> i am impressed by the promised functionality and the straightforward design;
> the live curve adjustment feature is nifty, though it's not clear whether it
> does anything to RAW exposures
>
> the swivel screen is a half-measure; i wonder if anyone will dare eliminate
> the screen completely in favor of an EVF — that would be a very "retro"
> design
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Re: PESO - Ex Oriente Lux

[Don Guthrie]

As always Frank you do color with equal facility to  your B&W. I much 
admire sunrise pictures like this. Alas I never get up in time to 
actually see one myself & thus rely on others.





On 2/8/2012 6:48 PM, frank theriault wrote:

Got out this past weekend for a bit of pre-dawn action:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2012/02/ex-oriente-lux.html

Lovely sunrise photo.



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Re: Frosty AM

[Don Guthrie]

Thanks Brian I liked the second one as well and I cropped out quite a 
bit of crud as I am on one of the busiest streets in town. I also liked 
a square crop anyway for this.


As they were jpgs I minimized my post processing and did not attempt 
cloning on that corner but I shall take another look at that before I 
post it anymore.






Message: 4 Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:02:14 +1100 From: Brian Walters  To: Pentax-Discuss 
Mail List  Subject: Re: Frosty AM Message-ID: 
<20120209130214.10649qlcg76uj...@webmail.netregistry.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; 
DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Quoting Don Guthrie :



http://donspix.posterous.com/yesterday-was-a-frosty-fairly-land-and-like-l


Good work.

The second is my favourite.  I love the skeletal shape of the trunks
and branches.  Clone out those cars at lower left and it would be just
about perfect.



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Re: re PESO: Your Husband Called

[Don Guthrie]

Well the last few years I got her flowers so I would have something 
colorful to photograph in the winter. But she caught on when I forgot to 
bring them in from the sun porch where the light was better for picture 
taking.





Message: 5 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 16:51:38 -0500 From: Steven Desjardins  To: 
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 Content-Type: text/plain; 
charset=ISO-8859-1 You're an ingenius and courageous man, Don. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Don 
Guthrie  wrote:

Very clever good job spotting it. But not safe for wife viewing especially
in Feb. I am planning to get her a new lens -something light so she can
carry it for me on photo walks.


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Re: OT - OM-D - WOW

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On 2/9/2012 11:20 AM, steve harley wrote:

on 2012-02-09 10:17 Walt Gilbert wrote

On 2/9/2012 11:07 AM, steve harley wrote:

on 2012-02-09 00:25 Walt Gilbert wrote
As sleek & sexy go, I have to say Argus would make an excellent 
candidate:


http://is.gd/6JJBhx
 





yick! she looks like she was painted by a graffiti artist; the argus 
deserves

better

I try not to judge babes on such superficial criteria.


i guess i was judging the photography

Oh! So *that's* what we're here for!

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Re: Peso - Red and White

[Jack Davis]

Like this, Ann. As a result, I'd have to fiddle with it some. I'd clone out the 
panels peeking in from the far right and, perhaps, do a slight crop to the left 
edge.
I could then deal with the missing corner on the top panel.


Jack

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When Brian mentioned that he liked Rick's recent photo of the little kid in a 
red jacket and the shdaows of her with her mom as a suitable
one for the March gallery I thought , mistakenly, that the subject for March 
was "red" not "shadows" and i immediately remembered this.  D'oh.

ain't shot much too recently, this was last March..

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Re: OT - OM-D - WOW

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on 2012-02-09 10:17 Walt Gilbert wrote

On 2/9/2012 11:07 AM, steve harley wrote:

on 2012-02-09 00:25 Walt Gilbert wrote

As sleek & sexy go, I have to say Argus would make an excellent candidate:

http://is.gd/6JJBhx




yick! she looks like she was painted by a graffiti artist; the argus deserves
better

I try not to judge babes on such superficial criteria.


i guess i was judging the photography

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Re: OT - OM-D - WOW

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on 2012-02-08 01:44 Cotty wrote



Very cool.

It's a viewfinder Jim but not as we know it


i am impressed by the promised functionality and the straightforward design; 
the live curve adjustment feature is nifty, though it's not clear whether it 
does anything to RAW exposures


the swivel screen is a half-measure; i wonder if anyone will dare eliminate the 
screen completely in favor of an EVF — that would be a very "retro" design


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Re: OT - OM-D - WOW

[Walt Gilbert]

On 2/9/2012 11:07 AM, steve harley wrote:

on 2012-02-09 00:25 Walt Gilbert wrote
As sleek & sexy go, I have to say Argus would make an excellent 
candidate:


http://is.gd/6JJBhx
 



yick! she looks like she was painted by a graffiti artist; the argus 
deserves better

I try not to judge babes on such superficial criteria.

-- Walt

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Re: New lenses DA 560/5.6, DA 50/1.8

[steve harley]

on 2012-02-08 20:03 JC OCONNELL wrote

Super-Multi-Coated Takumars are better built than SMC Takumars which are
better built than SMCK lenses which are better built than SMCM lenses which
are better built than SMCA lenses.  I cant speak for the af lenses.
As far as manual focus lenses go, each new series went downhill than the
previous after the fabulous Super-Multi-Coated Takumars.


so it may be, but the fact that many of us are still using the lesser of those 
builds decades later attests that on the whole the builds were pretty good


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Re: OT - OM-D - WOW

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on 2012-02-09 00:25 Walt Gilbert wrote

As sleek & sexy go, I have to say Argus would make an excellent candidate:

http://is.gd/6JJBhx



yick! she looks like she was painted by a graffiti artist; the argus deserves 
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Re: Ricoh reshuffle sees Pentax take control of cameras

[Steven Desjardins]

I just meant that I don't think Ricoh acquired Pentax to make a bunch
of money.  They want to make cameras for PR reasons, or something like
that.

BTW, the reaction to this news from some folks with the GXR is not
altogether happy.  I guess they are afraid Pentax will mess up the
Ricoh offerings.  How about you, Geoffrey?

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> IMHO, this simply shows that Ricoh is smart enough to understand that
> in the photographic world "Pentax" has a lot more caché as a brand
> than does "Ricoh".
>
> Ricoh has long played second fiddle to Pentax, while at the same time
> aligning themselves closely with Pentax (see the KR mount). Surely one
> of the real assets that Pentax carries with it is its name and name
> recognition. I think that this shows a dispassionate business decision
> on Ricoh's part. Yes, they are bigger and the parent company, but they
> realize that in the photographic department Pentax is probably
> superior to their own in every respect, from design to coatings to
> marketing.
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Re: More than product

[steve harley]

on 2012-02-08 20:00 P. J. Alling wrote

On 2/8/2012 3:09 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

On 2/8/2012 12:46 PM, steve harley wrote:

on 2012-02-06 13:33 Darren Addy wrote

See also: Removal of eyebrows and reapplying them
by pencil.


i met a guy who shaved his eyebrows and reapplied them by tattoo ... about
an inch farther up his forehead


I can only imagine the look of surprise on his face.


ir you constantly look surprised, do you ever look surprised?



indeed the quizzical looks were on the faces of those who beheld him: he was 
ugly, scary, dali-esque and hard to take seriously; he went by a name something 
like "Monster" or "Demon"


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Re: Peso - Red and White

[Tim Bray]

That's beautiful -T

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>
>
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/15389206_cBJMSB/1/1704842712_WfC43Zm/Large
>
> When Brian mentioned that he liked Rick's recent photo of the little kid in
> a red jacket and the shdaows of her with her mom as a suitable
> one for the March gallery I thought , mistakenly, that the subject for March
> was "red" not "shadows" and i immediately remembered this.  D'oh.
>
> ain't shot much too recently, this was last March..
>
> ann
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Re: Peso - Red and White

[Bulent Celasun]

The quilts look like sources of light themselves.

Feels nice.

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>
>
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/15389206_cBJMSB/1/1704842712_WfC43Zm/Large
>
> When Brian mentioned that he liked Rick's recent photo of the little kid in
> a red jacket and the shdaows of her with her mom as a suitable
> one for the March gallery I thought , mistakenly, that the subject for March
> was "red" not "shadows" and i immediately remembered this.  D'oh.
>
> ain't shot much too recently, this was last March..
>
> ann
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Peso - Red and White

[Ann Sanfedele]

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/15389206_cBJMSB/1/1704842712_WfC43Zm/Large

When Brian mentioned that he liked Rick's recent photo of the little kid 
in a red jacket and the shdaows of her with her mom as a suitable
one for the March gallery I thought , mistakenly, that the subject for 
March was "red" not "shadows" and i immediately remembered this.  D'oh.


ain't shot much too recently, this was last March..

ann





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Re: OT - OM-D - WOW

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On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> Perhaps I'm the only one who is underwhelmed.  Maybe it looks better in real
> life but that "pentaprism" (for want of a better word) makes the whole thing
> look top heavy.  It's not a patch on the elegant lines of the OM-1/OM-2.

No, you're not the only one. I agree completely:
http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/missed_it_by_that_much.jpg

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Silver Efex Pro 2 live webinar: 1st 1000 registrants

[Darren Addy]

http://www.niksoftware.com/learnmore/usa/index.php/webinars/signup/12831

1 hr online webinar
Around the World in Black and White with Greg Downing
Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:00 PM - 1:00 PM CST
"Join professional Nature Photographer and Publisher of
NatureScapes.net, Greg Downing as he shares tips and techniques he
uses for creating dramatic black and white images that evoke an
emotional response and engage the viewer. Featuring images from around
the world, Greg will take you through his process step-by-step, from
what to look for at capture time to conversion to black and white
using Silver Efex Pro 2.

Ansel Adams would spend countless hours in the darkroom dodging and
burning and essentially making targeted tonal and contrast adjustments
to his images so he could achieve the look he was after. What used to
take hours can now be done quickly, efficiently and with far greater
ease than any other black and white conversion method available. With
Nik’s Silver Efex Pro 2 software, the ability to take full control
over the process of adjusting local contrast, structure and even
creating the appearance of an “old photo” quickly and efficiently is a
giant leap forward. Use of control points for selective adjustments,
simple one-click filters, use of the zone system and a wide variety of
other tools will be demonstrated during this presentation.
(www.naturescapes.net - www.gdphotography.com)

(Please note that the first 1,000 attendees to join the live webinar
can attend. We also offer a variety of other online training webinars
held everyday, Tuesday through Saturday, as well as Master Classes
held once a week. Please visit www.niksoftware.com/learnmore )"

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

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Re: Ricoh reshuffle sees Pentax take control of cameras

[Darren Addy]

IMHO, this simply shows that Ricoh is smart enough to understand that
in the photographic world "Pentax" has a lot more caché as a brand
than does "Ricoh".

Ricoh has long played second fiddle to Pentax, while at the same time
aligning themselves closely with Pentax (see the KR mount). Surely one
of the real assets that Pentax carries with it is its name and name
recognition. I think that this shows a dispassionate business decision
on Ricoh's part. Yes, they are bigger and the parent company, but they
realize that in the photographic department Pentax is probably
superior to their own in every respect, from design to coatings to
marketing.

Darren Addy
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Re: Ricoh reshuffle sees Pentax take control of cameras

[Steven Desjardins]

April 1, huh?  I wonder how much PRI will be run by "Pentax" an dhow
much by "Ricoh".  I know this will sound odd, but I get the feeling
that the success of the camera division is a source of pride for
Ricoh, if that's the right word.

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Tom C  wrote:
> From dpreview.com this morning:
>
> Ricoh has announced that its Pentax Ricoh Imaging (PRI) business unit
> will take full control of the design, development and sales of the
> company's cameras, worldwide. PRI was created when Ricoh bought Pentax
> and is the business that has been responsible for the design,
> manufacturing and sales of Pentax cameras. It will now absorb the
> consumer businesses of Ricoh's Personal Multimedia Product Company,
> which was responsible for the design, manufacture and sale of Ricoh
> cameras. The change will take effect from April 1st 2012.
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Re: PESO - Ex Oriente Lux

[David J Brooks]

Very nice

Dave

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:48 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Got out this past weekend for a bit of pre-dawn action:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2012/02/ex-oriente-lux.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: February PUG is Up - All Aboard1!

[David J Brooks]

We have an old heritage train that runs out of Stouffville to Uxbridge
on summer weekends. I really should get my butt over to the station
and take the trip.

Dave



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Re: GFM 2012

[Bob Sullivan]

Yes, Road Trip!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Stan Halpin  wrote:
>
> On Feb 8, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>
>>> If anyone new here is wondering WTF GFM is all about, please see the FAQ:
>>>
>>> http://pug.komkon.org/general/mini-faq.html
>>
>> GFM sounds like huge fun, but just the sheer logistics of getting to the 
>> right coast combined with the need to be able to commit to tickets that far 
>> in advance pretty much prevent me from being able to make it.  Would there 
>> be any interest in a left coast, too poor to go to GFM, photo/camping trip?
>>
>
> Road trip!
>
> stan
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Ricoh reshuffle sees Pentax take control of cameras

[Tom C]

>From dpreview.com this morning:

Ricoh has announced that its Pentax Ricoh Imaging (PRI) business unit
will take full control of the design, development and sales of the
company's cameras, worldwide. PRI was created when Ricoh bought Pentax
and is the business that has been responsible for the design,
manufacturing and sales of Pentax cameras. It will now absorb the
consumer businesses of Ricoh's Personal Multimedia Product Company,
which was responsible for the design, manufacture and sale of Ricoh
cameras. The change will take effect from April 1st 2012.

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Re: Intrusive Beasts

[Darren Addy]

Sounds like a book title: "Intrusive Breasts: A History of Modern Advertising".

Darren Addy
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