Re: OT Computer conundrum for those who care.

2013-07-10 Thread P.J. Alling
It's a enclosure from Gigaware, I checked the online reviews and it 
doesn't seem to be problematic, had a front panel activity light, 
(broke, it and it was my fault), and wonder of wonders a rocker switch 
for to turn it on and off.


It's an IDE drive and my desktop has IDE connectors but I'm loath to 
tear it apart to see if DataLifeGaurd will recognize the drive if it's 
directly connected to the motherboard without a USB interface in 
between, that is unless I were sure that it would work.  I've got this 
system working mostly the way I want it to and don't want to screw that up.


rantThe fact that Seatools which is a propitiatory version of Acronis' 
software recognizes the Western Digital drive and returns both it's 
model number and it's serial number, points to it being a limitation in 
the WD software, but still DLG should recognize that the drive is a WD 
drive and at least test it, it tested and passed all the other USB 
drives and none of them are Western Digital products.rant


Well right now I've got checkdisk running in the background on the 
drive, it seems to have gotten past the 2/3 mark running overnight.  I 
hope it will generate a meaningful report.  So far it seems that the 
only things that were actually lost were a few large archives of free 
software that I didn't bother to back up, since I figured I could always 
download them again.  I never used any of it IIRC, so I'm not that 
worried.  It did seem to have a large number of bad sectors in the 
middle of where my pef's were stored but I have multiple copies of them 
so that's not a problem.


I'd like to thank everyone who responded, everyone's advice was welcome.



On 7/10/2013 9:27 AM, John wrote:

You mentioned it's in a USB enclosure. Have you tried mounting it in a
different USB enclosure. There's a small chance it's not the drive 
itself.


I don't know if it's one of those WD MyBook drives - you did say it was
a PRETTY SOLID enclosure  in my opinion those WD MyBook drives are
anything but. My experience with them is they have VERY flimsy power
supplies  sometimes what appears as a drive problem is actually a power
supply problem

On 7/10/2013 1:04 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

I can access the drive readily enough from the command line.  The backup
is still underway, (the program I'm using is aggressively trying to
recover some unreadable files, nothing irreplaceable I hope), so I'm not
about to attempt to format the drive until that operation completes.  I
haven't tried Knoppix that may not be necessary.  This machine is
running WinXP (SP3), and I suspect that running the manufactures disk
diagnostic and repair/format utility might do a better job than the
windows format, for blocking out any bad sectors.  I'm not sure at this
point that attempting to save the drive is even a good idea, but being a
Yankee, I hate to throw anything that might be useful away, so I'd like
to at least try.

It's odd that Seagate's utility can at see and test the problematic
drive while Western Digital's cannot.

On 7/10/2013 12:35 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

Does your computer see the drive from the command line?  Can you
format the drive from there using the DOS format command?

If you run Knoppix can your computer see the drive?  That's saved my
bacon several times.  I think you can do an NTFS format from Knoppix
if you can mount the drive.

-p

On 7/9/2013 5:54 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
So I have an interesting problem.  I have an older PATA/IDE drive 
that's

been put into a pretty solid USB case for external backups. It's been
working well, until now, but has just started to evidence read 
errors. I

figured no problem I'll run a quick diagnostic and if it's going bad,
back up everything then try to reformat and recover the hardware.

it's a WD drive most of my current drives are Seagate, but Seatools 
sees

it and will run generic short and long tests on it.  Long story short,
Short test Passed, Long test fails.  So I figure I'll download Western
Digital's tool and try that, to see if I can get a better handle on
what's happening.  WD's tool cannot see the drive. OK, so I had to 
back

it up anyway, that's underway.

Here's the conundrum.  Seatools will test the drive but won't do a low
level format on a WD drive.  DataLifeGuard doesn't see the drive as 
a WD

drive, just as a logical partition and won't run any tests on it, nor
will it low level format a drive it doesn't recognize.

Sure the drive is probably toast, but I'd at least like to try to keep
it alive.  I'm looking for suggestions.

I've found several people who've had the same problem with 
DataLifeGuard
recognizing only the logical partition of the drive in question, 
but no

solutions have been posted, to the forums I've checked.  I figured I
check here because this list is always full of surprises.











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Fwd: yikes.. what again?

2013-07-10 Thread steve harley

i missed this in an alternate mailbox yesterday, but maybe it's still of value


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Subject: yikes.. what again?
Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:22:04 -0400
From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com

Hey steve..

would you forward this to the list ?  Now I'll have to get on the phone
to Time Warner too
I left in all the header stuff but I'd just like the content to get there

Irony hasn't escaped me :-)


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Glad we are back but not getting on the list for a couple of days is
minor (sorry guys) compared to the chaos that would be caused by my
switching email... the problems with PDML are recent and happened twice
but got fixed within a couple of days.  (the first time was you all
could see me but I had to read the archives to see even my own posts)

I've had the same email for about ten years now.. all my friends have
it in their address books, all my online business stuff has it.  I have
Thunderbird and I've got it all set up in a really logical easy to use
filing system - none of my mail is left on line (well, if it goes to
PDML it is, or ebay messages).  Overall, I'm a very happy camper with
it. Time-warner cable is the only provider I can use in my area - I
don't have and don't want any wi-fi stuff.

It was ironic, though, that it bombed out just when I was able to get
back to reading a bit more and posting some.

Now watch out, there may be a major announcement coming from here of
a Pentax sort.  and oh yeah, a cat PESO

ann


On 7/9/2013 09:48, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Tue, Jul 09, 2013, Bob Sullivan wrote:


John,
You and Ann need to drop 'Roadrunner'.
It's a constant challenge to get it to work.
Get a reliable service provider.


They don't need to drop RR if it provides solid broadband access, they
just need another e-mail provider.  I certainly would never consider
using e-mail from my broadband provider these days.





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Re: GESO - Tempting alternates

2013-07-10 Thread Christine Nielsen
Nice! I'm a fan of Ontario Grown, myself, but I can see how other shots might 
suit the theme better...

So, do I understand correctly that you backlit the sheer in front of the patio 
door for the high key shots?

:)
-c




On Jul 9, 2013, at 3:36 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

First, two shots in particular:

http://flic.kr/p/f4MZEV - Northern Spy
http://flic.kr/p/f5cDZU - Apple Saucy

A large number of possible candidates for the Temptation PUG emerged
from my shoot with Iryna, and here are the best of those. I rejected
some because they just didn't say _temptation_ to me, but are
otherwise okay shots.

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjGFgCHr - The gallery. I'll be adding to this as I
get some more time.

All shot with K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8, 200 ISO, 2 x AFG540FGZ. Lr, Ps.

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Re: Peso - Grab shot

2013-07-10 Thread Christine Nielsen
I like this a lot - the subject  background work especially well together, 
don't they?

Glad you are back!

:)
-c



On Jul 9, 2013, at 8:23 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

... and test.  if this gets through and nothing else does tonight, at least I 
can read comments

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/2625300581_xMdMdk3/Large

Time Warner and Road Runner assure me they are working on the problem.

ann with crossed fingers

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Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread P.J. Alling
Well Ann, you're going to get a huge increase in real resolution, and 
the files will tax your computer's capabilities.  Now that you've got 
good eyes, you can enjoy it.  You might want to check out buydig for a 
new K-5. They're selling for less than S100 more there than KEH is 
asking for good used ones. Sometimes buydig also has coupons that can 
save you a bit more too.



On 7/10/2013 11:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire 
me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding
ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else 
is doing that.  At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and

especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc

But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding 
photog in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in 
the mail and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price 
(well, I already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I 
need to get it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare 
batteries... don't need to have a brand new one.


IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage 
words about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out 
for in switching from the D...


I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB
fare?  My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto
my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw 
files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs?


any suggestions at all are welcome.

boy, it is nice to be back!

Regards,
ann




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Re: PESO: A small set taken with the K85 f1.8 wide open

2013-07-10 Thread Christine Nielsen
Those look yum... You find the neatest toys, Darren. Also enjoyed your post 
about the Kenko Uniplus Tube 25 You make it difficult to keep my LBA in 
remission!

:)
-c


On Jul 8, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:

This lens is capable of really shallow DOF (and on an APS-C sized
sensor). I don't need no steenkin' full frame. These are just some
quick grab shots taken over my afternoon break.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/sets/72157634554848922

CC welcome.

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Re: GESO - Tempting alternates

2013-07-10 Thread Bruce Walker
That's right. I had already been doing some shooting with a low key
setup where I simulated sunlight coming in through the sheers using
the AF540 on top of an 8' stand outside the patio door angled downward
30 degrees or so. That provided most of the light and the softbox on
the inside provided fill about 1-2 stops lower.

When I decided to switch it up for some high-key beauty shots I
cranked the interior softbox a couple of stops up and moved it closer
to provide the key light. I was able to leave the outside light as it
was configured since it was now just a little hotter than the key and
was evenly lighting the sheer behind the subject's head.

Normally I'd put the high-key setup a few feet in front of a white
surface and front-light that.

Thanks, Christine!


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote:
 Nice! I'm a fan of Ontario Grown, myself, but I can see how other shots 
 might suit the theme better...

 So, do I understand correctly that you backlit the sheer in front of the 
 patio door for the high key shots?

 :)
 -c




 On Jul 9, 2013, at 3:36 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 First, two shots in particular:

 http://flic.kr/p/f4MZEV - Northern Spy
 http://flic.kr/p/f5cDZU - Apple Saucy

 A large number of possible candidates for the Temptation PUG emerged
 from my shoot with Iryna, and here are the best of those. I rejected
 some because they just didn't say _temptation_ to me, but are
 otherwise okay shots.

 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjGFgCHr - The gallery. I'll be adding to this as I
 get some more time.

 All shot with K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8, 200 ISO, 2 x AFG540FGZ. Lr, Ps.

 Comments welcome.

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Re: Even more macro enablement?

2013-07-10 Thread Bruce Walker
That's very cool, Darren. I've often thought I'd love to try macro
with my 50-135. I figured that the SDM pass-through was not terribly
useful as manual focus would most likely be required, but for $100
I'll keep an eye out for one of these things.


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tripped across a piece of equipment that I was not aware of this
 morning and (just in case others didn't know about it either) thought
 I would pass it along.

 It is a AF extension tube that works even with SDM lenses. It is
 called the Kenko Uniplus Tube 25 and it was once made for Pentax, now
 extremely hard to find. As good fortune would have it, I no more than
 learned about it and looked and there was one listed on ePray (from
 Japan) that had only 9 views when I snatched it up (Buy It Now).

 I'm passing this info along because it can turn your DA* 50-135mm or
 even your DA 40 XS into a superb macro lens. If you don't believe me
 check out this French Pentaxian's work. If you only have time to look
 at ONE, check this out:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/15251430@N03/9168541564/

 Here all ALL of his images tagged with Uniplus:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/fs999/tags/uniplus/

 The macro shots taken with the DA 40 XS can be seen here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/fs999/tags/pentaxda40mmf28xs/

 Macros taken with the combo of the Uniplus Tube and the DA* 50-135mm are here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/fs999/tags/pentaxda50135mmf28sdm/

 I don't own either of those two lenses. He tells me that the Uniplus
 Tube works with anything over 20mm (with a 20mm the subject is just 1
 cm from the front of the lens).

 I'm curious to see how it works with reducing the minimum focusing
 distance when used with the Bigma (and how much of the infinity end
 you lose).

 If you really want to blow some time, FS999 has a lot of very engaging
 sets on Flickr.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/fs999/sets/

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Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, P.J. Alling wrote:

 Well Ann, you're going to get a huge increase in real resolution,
 and the files will tax your computer's capabilities.  Now that
 you've got good eyes, you can enjoy it.  You might want to check out
 buydig for a new K-5. They're selling for less than S100 more there
 than KEH is asking for good used ones. Sometimes buydig also has
 coupons that can save you a bit more too.

According to resellerratings.com, buydig has a 7.2 score vs 9.6 for keh;
I'd stick with keh, I've had enough problems even from high-scoring
companies.

http://www.resellerratings.com/store/BuyDig_Beachtr
http://www.resellerratings.com/store/KEH_Camera_Brokers
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Re: GESO - Stack Focusing Dragonflies in the Field

2013-07-10 Thread kwaller

Simply terrific first attempts Mark!

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net

Subject: GESO - Stack Focusing Dragonflies in the Field


I'm trying to get my insect photos up to the next level, and it seems like 
stack focusing is part of the process to do that. I worked on it yesterday 
with mixed results - still have a lot of stacks to go through. But here 
are the first:


http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2013/07/06/stack-focusing-dragonflies-in-the-field

All taken with Pentax K-5 and A*200 f4. No flash since I needed to grab a 
fast bunch of images to stack, and no way could the flash keep up.


All of these photos got flaws but maybe on a less windy day this will work 
out. CC appreciated.


Mark



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Re: PESO -- Toothy Grin

2013-07-10 Thread kwaller

Thats good crap


Yo MARK!

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: PESO -- Toothy Grin



Thats good crap

Dave

On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 9:17 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com 
wrote:
Didn't shoot a lot over the Forth of July weekend.  Mostly crap like 
this...


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20toothygrin.html

Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited.

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Re: OT Computer conundrum for those who care.

2013-07-10 Thread P.J. Alling
Most likely the last update on this subject.  After running for over 16 
hours Checkdisk exited after phase 2 and reported no errors...


However now the disk is no longer accessible beyond Seatools reporting 
it's model number.  So either the drive has failed, or the enclosure 
has.  I'm going to test the drive later with a different USB to IDE 
adapter, to try to narrow that down.  I was however able to recover most 
of the more or less important data. So there's that.


Meanwhile I find it amusing, in a dark sort of way, that windows 
administrator tools/computer manager/drive management app thinks a drive 
that just about hangs explorer when it attempts to mount it is healthy.


I've got one more utility to try on the drive before I take it out of 
it's enclosure, so I apparently have a new hobby and it's not photography.


On 7/10/2013 7:15 AM, Gerrit Visser wrote:

You can always make it into one of these to save it from the dumpster:
http://hotchk155.blogspot.ca/2012/02/digital-pov-clock-working-mostly.html
Gerrit

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On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:54 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
wrote:


Sure the drive is probably toast, but I'd at least like to try to keep it

alive.  I'm looking for suggestions.

My advice is to forget the tools.  Just get the data off NOW while the drive
is still functioning, and never use it for anything important again.  Make
sure that any important data you retrieve was not corrupted while you have a
chance to try again.

Then start thinking about how you do your backups.  You want to be in a
situation where ANY single drive failing without warning will not cost you
data.  You can ratchet up the paranoia level from there (eg burglary, house
burning down etc which could take out multiple backups in one hit).

Sorry if I seem a little alarmist but I've been in a similar situation with
data I really didn't want to lose.  I was lucky that time.

...and your sig does seem kind of appropriate ;)


There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard

drive failure, and those that will.

Cheers,
Dave





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Re: OT Computer conundrum for those who care.

2013-07-10 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, P.J. Alling wrote:

 I've got one more utility to try on the drive before I take it out
 of it's enclosure, so I apparently have a new hobby and it's not
 photography.

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Rolling down the track

2013-07-10 Thread Don Guthrie
Recently had an opportunity to photograph a genuine steam engine on the 
tracks. I took many pictures and will post some galleries when I get 
them up on flicker. Meantime for those who have no moral objections to 
Google plus please look at this link and let me know if the experience 
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Re: OT Computer conundrum for those who care.

2013-07-10 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 9, 2013, at 17:54 , P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

 So I have an interesting problem.  I have an older PATA/IDE drive that's been 
 put into a pretty solid USB case for external backups. It's been working 
 well, until now, but has just started to evidence read errors.  I figured no 
 problem I'll run a quick diagnostic and if it's going bad, back up everything 
 then try to reformat and recover the hardware.
 

Question:

Now that the drive is exhibiting signs of unreliability... why are you even 
considering continuing to use it?

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Re: Rolling down the track

2013-07-10 Thread Darren Addy
That is SWEET, Don! Love your composition and the rendering. Just a
hint of blur in those churning wheels. Love it!

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 Thanks

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Re: Even more macro enablement?

2013-07-10 Thread Zos Xavius
One day recently I came across a Tamron 2x teleconverter in a cheap
bag of kit. So, basically free. After trying it and researching it, I
realized it was just an awful chinese TC that had no redeeming
qualities. K-R mount too, but the pin is rounded so it doesn't seat
into the screw drive fortunately. It does have A contacts and an
aperture lever. Hmm. After much whacking with a screwdriver and
hammer, the glass elements shattered one by one. I blew out all the
glass dust and voila! instant 25mm extension tube. I find it works
best with lenses that have good close focusing ability. The 16-45
superb in its rendering in macro with a tube, but the working distance
is extremely short and is unusable below probably 30mm or so. The
70-200 I have does decently and has nice OOF rendering, but just
doesn't get nearly as close. It gets better magnification at 70mm. The
35-105 I just acquired does pretty well and can certainly reach 1:1
when you combine with its built in macro mode, though it doesn't give
that much more magnification with a tube.

I don't see the point personally in having AF. Your DOF is so paper
thin even at f11-f16 that its much easier and convenient to just move
back and forth. Catch in focus works well here when you want to just
grab something in the center. I find it best to just take multiple
shots, adjusting focus sightly back and forth. I find the 28-50ish
range seems to work best at getting towards 1:1, but you are pretty
much focusing a few inches away from your subject like this. I would
imagine a 100mm macro would give better OOF rendering and would also
give you better slightly better working distance, but even at 100mm,
1:1 requires you to get pretty close. I haven't tried any primes. I
like zooms because you can use the zoom to quickly adjust focus and
working distance by zooming in and out. I have also tried close up
lenses that were good, but I didn't like how they OOF areas as much as
there was a pretty decent drop in IQ towards the edge of the frame.
They also weren't getting me close enough. The 25mm tube is pretty
good for large magnification. Now I just need to get a ring
flash.just what I need...more things to lust after... ;)

I'll post some pics with the tube a little later on here. It has
served me well, though I do get hotspots sometimes. I don't know if
the tube is reflecting (its all black inside) or if the rear elements
of my problematic lenses aren't coated. It does it with the 35-105,
which is likely coated on the rear element, so I'm thinking it might
actually be the tube that could use better paint inside.

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's very cool, Darren. I've often thought I'd love to try macro
 with my 50-135. I figured that the SDM pass-through was not terribly
 useful as manual focus would most likely be required, but for $100
 I'll keep an eye out for one of these things.


 On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tripped across a piece of equipment that I was not aware of this
 morning and (just in case others didn't know about it either) thought
 I would pass it along.

 It is a AF extension tube that works even with SDM lenses. It is
 called the Kenko Uniplus Tube 25 and it was once made for Pentax, now
 extremely hard to find. As good fortune would have it, I no more than
 learned about it and looked and there was one listed on ePray (from
 Japan) that had only 9 views when I snatched it up (Buy It Now).

 I'm passing this info along because it can turn your DA* 50-135mm or
 even your DA 40 XS into a superb macro lens. If you don't believe me
 check out this French Pentaxian's work. If you only have time to look
 at ONE, check this out:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/15251430@N03/9168541564/

 Here all ALL of his images tagged with Uniplus:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/fs999/tags/uniplus/

 The macro shots taken with the DA 40 XS can be seen here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/fs999/tags/pentaxda40mmf28xs/

 Macros taken with the combo of the Uniplus Tube and the DA* 50-135mm are 
 here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/fs999/tags/pentaxda50135mmf28sdm/

 I don't own either of those two lenses. He tells me that the Uniplus
 Tube works with anything over 20mm (with a 20mm the subject is just 1
 cm from the front of the lens).

 I'm curious to see how it works with reducing the minimum focusing
 distance when used with the Bigma (and how much of the infinity end
 you lose).

 If you really want to blow some time, FS999 has a lot of very engaging
 sets on Flickr.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/fs999/sets/

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Re: OT Computer conundrum for those who care.

2013-07-10 Thread P.J. Alling

Masochism.

On 7/10/2013 5:27 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

On Jul 9, 2013, at 17:54 , P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:


So I have an interesting problem.  I have an older PATA/IDE drive that's been 
put into a pretty solid USB case for external backups. It's been working well, 
until now, but has just started to evidence read errors.  I figured no problem 
I'll run a quick diagnostic and if it's going bad, back up everything then try 
to reformat and recover the hardware.


Question:

Now that the drive is exhibiting signs of unreliability... why are you even 
considering continuing to use it?

  -Charles

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Re: Rolling down the track

2013-07-10 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 10/7/13, Don Guthrie, discombobulated, unleashed:

Recently had an opportunity to photograph a genuine steam engine on the 
tracks. I took many pictures and will post some galleries when I get 
them up on flicker. Meantime for those who have no moral objections to 
Google plus please look at this link and let me know if the experience 
works for you. Thanks

https://plus.google.com/u/0/100687245332697763729/posts/BbeeSxVWxD5

Interesting choice of composition! Personally I would lose the dead
space left of the tree, but it loses nothing in your interpretation.

I like it.

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Re: OT Computer conundrum for those who care.

2013-07-10 Thread P.J. Alling
Ok, seriously.  I don't know why it's becoming unreliable.  If may be 
something fixable.  If so it can be used for temporary storage for 
unimportant data, or maybe as a scratch drive.  However I've been doing 
a bit of work on it and it's beginning to look like I caught it just in 
time.  It seems to have finished dying over the check disk.  Even my 
usually reliable disk recovery tools can't see the platter anymore.


On 7/10/2013 5:27 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

On Jul 9, 2013, at 17:54 , P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:


So I have an interesting problem.  I have an older PATA/IDE drive that's been 
put into a pretty solid USB case for external backups. It's been working well, 
until now, but has just started to evidence read errors.  I figured no problem 
I'll run a quick diagnostic and if it's going bad, back up everything then try 
to reformat and recover the hardware.


Question:

Now that the drive is exhibiting signs of unreliability... why are you even 
considering continuing to use it?

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Re: Even more macro enablement?

2013-07-10 Thread Zos Xavius
Oh, I meant to say the 35-105 doesn't give that much more
magnification with the tube in macro mode. The macro mode moves it a
lot closer on its own, but with the tube on, it doesn't seem to gain
much. I find this curious. I don't know much about tubes other than
your are moving your plane of focus closer. Basically you are
magnifying the image by moving it behind the sensor plane. If you
reduce the flange distance, your close focusing ability diminishes and
you will focus past infinity at the other end. I think extension tubes
are a great addition to any kit. Especially 25mm. If a lens doesn't do
all that great at its minimum focus distance, its not going to get any
better if you magnify that. The FA 28-80 was kind of a dog with pretty
awful bokeh. I haven't tried the kit 18-55, but imagine it wouldn't be
much better since close focus on that lens is pretty subpar.

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote:
 One day recently I came across a Tamron 2x teleconverter in a cheap
 bag of kit. So, basically free. After trying it and researching it, I
 realized it was just an awful chinese TC that had no redeeming
 qualities. K-R mount too, but the pin is rounded so it doesn't seat
 into the screw drive fortunately. It does have A contacts and an
 aperture lever. Hmm. After much whacking with a screwdriver and
 hammer, the glass elements shattered one by one. I blew out all the
 glass dust and voila! instant 25mm extension tube. I find it works
 best with lenses that have good close focusing ability. The 16-45
 superb in its rendering in macro with a tube, but the working distance
 is extremely short and is unusable below probably 30mm or so. The
 70-200 I have does decently and has nice OOF rendering, but just
 doesn't get nearly as close. It gets better magnification at 70mm. The
 35-105 I just acquired does pretty well and can certainly reach 1:1
 when you combine with its built in macro mode, though it doesn't give
 that much more magnification with a tube.

 I don't see the point personally in having AF. Your DOF is so paper
 thin even at f11-f16 that its much easier and convenient to just move
 back and forth. Catch in focus works well here when you want to just
 grab something in the center. I find it best to just take multiple
 shots, adjusting focus sightly back and forth. I find the 28-50ish
 range seems to work best at getting towards 1:1, but you are pretty
 much focusing a few inches away from your subject like this. I would
 imagine a 100mm macro would give better OOF rendering and would also
 give you better slightly better working distance, but even at 100mm,
 1:1 requires you to get pretty close. I haven't tried any primes. I
 like zooms because you can use the zoom to quickly adjust focus and
 working distance by zooming in and out. I have also tried close up
 lenses that were good, but I didn't like how they OOF areas as much as
 there was a pretty decent drop in IQ towards the edge of the frame.
 They also weren't getting me close enough. The 25mm tube is pretty
 good for large magnification. Now I just need to get a ring
 flash.just what I need...more things to lust after... ;)

 I'll post some pics with the tube a little later on here. It has
 served me well, though I do get hotspots sometimes. I don't know if
 the tube is reflecting (its all black inside) or if the rear elements
 of my problematic lenses aren't coated. It does it with the 35-105,
 which is likely coated on the rear element, so I'm thinking it might
 actually be the tube that could use better paint inside.

 On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's very cool, Darren. I've often thought I'd love to try macro
 with my 50-135. I figured that the SDM pass-through was not terribly
 useful as manual focus would most likely be required, but for $100
 I'll keep an eye out for one of these things.


 On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tripped across a piece of equipment that I was not aware of this
 morning and (just in case others didn't know about it either) thought
 I would pass it along.

 It is a AF extension tube that works even with SDM lenses. It is
 called the Kenko Uniplus Tube 25 and it was once made for Pentax, now
 extremely hard to find. As good fortune would have it, I no more than
 learned about it and looked and there was one listed on ePray (from
 Japan) that had only 9 views when I snatched it up (Buy It Now).

 I'm passing this info along because it can turn your DA* 50-135mm or
 even your DA 40 XS into a superb macro lens. If you don't believe me
 check out this French Pentaxian's work. If you only have time to look
 at ONE, check this out:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/15251430@N03/9168541564/

 Here all ALL of his images tagged with Uniplus:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/fs999/tags/uniplus/

 The macro shots taken with the DA 40 XS can be seen here:
 

Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread Zos Xavius
Wow. Forget buying another k-7. If I just wait a little while a k-30
or even k-5 will be cheap enough to consider as a backup. Either would
be a step up in IQ. The focus peaking on the k-30 intrigues me too.
Too bad the engine is only 12-bit. :(

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 On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, P.J. Alling wrote:

 Well Ann, you're going to get a huge increase in real resolution,
 and the files will tax your computer's capabilities.  Now that
 you've got good eyes, you can enjoy it.  You might want to check out
 buydig for a new K-5. They're selling for less than S100 more there
 than KEH is asking for good used ones. Sometimes buydig also has
 coupons that can save you a bit more too.

 According to resellerratings.com, buydig has a 7.2 score vs 9.6 for keh;
 I'd stick with keh, I've had enough problems even from high-scoring
 companies.

 http://www.resellerratings.com/store/BuyDig_Beachtr
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Re: Rolling down the track

2013-07-10 Thread David J Brooks
Sweet.

not to steel your post buit here are some of mine fro Mat you might
like:http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2013-steam1/album/index.html

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 Recently had an opportunity to photograph a genuine steam engine on the
 tracks. I took many pictures and will post some galleries when I get them up
 on flicker. Meantime for those who have no moral objections to Google plus
 please look at this link and let me know if the experience works for you.
 Thanks

 https://plus.google.com/u/0/100687245332697763729/posts/BbeeSxVWxD5

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Re: PAW183 - Clouds

2013-07-10 Thread DagT
Thanks for the suggestion. I tried after reading it, but as Rick said colour 
makes one of the contrasts so I prefer the colour version. 

DagT

8. juli 2013 kl. 18:15 skrev Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com:

 A very strong composition. BW possible?
 
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 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 23:36:59 +0200
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 Subject: PAW183 - Clouds
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
 Pentax K-5, FA77mm, 1/250s, f/14, ISO100,
 
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PESO - Silver Bean Cafe

2013-07-10 Thread Brian Walters
Something of an icon in Cortez, Colorado and excellent use of an old  
Airstream trailer.


Good coffee, too :-)

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1855-K5-1peso.html


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Re: PAW183 - Clouds

2013-07-10 Thread DagT
Thanks Tick, Steve, Brian, Marco, Dave, knarf, Bruce and Philip too :-)

DagT

10. juli 2013 kl. 02:21 skrev Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com:

 Outstanding!  Hard v. soft, grey v. blue and white, rectangular v. 
 irregular--a wonderful study of contrasts.
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: GESO - Stack Focusing Dragonflies in the Field

2013-07-10 Thread Zos Xavius
These are really, really good. Are you freezing the insects or just
trying to work as fast as humanly possible? You know you can freeze
them temporarily right? My metz 54 flash when it was in working order
would throw out enough light for macro like this and recycle
instantly. Its not a ring light though, and that's probably what you
want. Honestly, if I was getting shutter speeds like that with 800, I
would just keep working with the natural light. These look amazing.

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 4:09 PM,  kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 Simply terrific first attempts Mark!

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller


 - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net
 Subject: GESO - Stack Focusing Dragonflies in the Field


 I'm trying to get my insect photos up to the next level, and it seems like
 stack focusing is part of the process to do that. I worked on it yesterday
 with mixed results - still have a lot of stacks to go through. But here are
 the first:


 http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2013/07/06/stack-focusing-dragonflies-in-the-field

 All taken with Pentax K-5 and A*200 f4. No flash since I needed to grab a
 fast bunch of images to stack, and no way could the flash keep up.

 All of these photos got flaws but maybe on a less windy day this will work
 out. CC appreciated.

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Re: Even more macro enablement?

2013-07-10 Thread Darren Addy
After much whacking with a screwdriver and
hammer, the glass elements shattered one by one. I blew out all the
glass dust and voila! instant 25mm extension tube. I find it works
best with lenses that have good close focusing ability.

Hey, I'll bet that would work with the SMC Pentax-F 1.7x AF Adapter too!

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Re: PESO - Silver Bean Cafe

2013-07-10 Thread Bruce Walker
Very good, Brian. Love the all-metal theme going on there.

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 Something of an icon in Cortez, Colorado and excellent use of an old
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 Good coffee, too :-)

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Re: PESO - Silver Bean Cafe

2013-07-10 Thread Philip Northeast

Was the coffee as good as the picture?

Philip Northeast

www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au

On 11/07/13 8:08 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

Something of an icon in Cortez, Colorado and excellent use of an old
Airstream trailer.

Good coffee, too :-)

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1855-K5-1peso.html





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Re: Even more macro enablement?

2013-07-10 Thread Bob Sullivan
NOO!

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
After much whacking with a screwdriver and
hammer, the glass elements shattered one by one. I blew out all the
glass dust and voila! instant 25mm extension tube. I find it works
best with lenses that have good close focusing ability.

 Hey, I'll bet that would work with the SMC Pentax-F 1.7x AF Adapter too!

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Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread Stan Halpin
Congratulations - you'll enjoy your new gadget! 

As far as numbering, I don't change the file number, but I do add to it. I 
started getting confused, well, more confused, about the time I had three 
different IMPG-2132 files and decided it was time for a new strategy. On 
import, files are renamed with a mmdd prefix. I also use the camera's 
capability to change the impg to something like _K5_. The final file name then 
is mmdd_K5_, and there is no chance of confusion with an image taken on 
the same day with a different camera, or with an image with the same camera 
1 shots ago.

stan

On Jul 10, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to 
 shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding
 ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is 
 doing that.  At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and
 especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc
 
 But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in 
 nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as 
 soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing 
 that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. 
 Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new 
 one.
 
 IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words 
 about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in 
 switching from the D...
 
 I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB
 fare?  My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto
 my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - 
 do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs?
 
 any suggestions at all are welcome.
 
 boy, it is nice to be back!
 
 Regards,
 ann
 
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Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread Paul Sorenson
Congratulations on getting the K-5.  To paraphrase the Men's Wearhouse 
guy...You're gonna like the way it works...I guarantee it


I still shoot PEFs and let Lightroom convert to DNG upon import as the 
Adobe conversion gives a slightly smaller file size.  If I think I'll 
need a quick turnaround to put up a gallery, I'll shoot RAW+JPG with the 
JPG set to the smallest file size so they're web-ready.


-p

On 7/10/2013 10:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire
me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding
ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else
is doing that.  At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and
especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc

But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog
in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail
and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I
already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get
it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't
need to have a brand new one.

IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words
about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in
switching from the D...

I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB
fare?  My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto
my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw
files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs?

any suggestions at all are welcome.

boy, it is nice to be back!

Regards,
ann



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Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread Philip Northeast

Ann

I get Lightroom to add the date to the start of each file name so it 
makes it easier to find pictures taken on a particular occasion.


I only use raw, dng version. I you need a  jpeg on site you can always 
process it individually in the camera.


I normally leave the AWB alone and do any colour correction in 
Lightroom.  For a wedding you need to concentrate on the action not 
camera settings.


The higher ISO performance of these cameras is amazing  so a flash is 
often not needed.



Philip Northeast

www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au

On 11/07/13 1:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire
me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding
ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else
is doing that.  At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and
especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc

But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog
in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail
and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I
already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get
it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't
need to have a brand new one.

IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words
about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in
switching from the D...

I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB
fare?  My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto
my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw
files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs?

any suggestions at all are welcome.

boy, it is nice to be back!

Regards,
ann



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Re: PESO - Silver Bean Cafe

2013-07-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
great image, pleasing colors.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 Something of an icon in Cortez, Colorado and excellent use of an old
 Airstream trailer.

 Good coffee, too :-)

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1855-K5-1peso.html


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Re: PESO - Silver Bean Cafe

2013-07-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
Very nice!

Paul via phone

On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 great image, pleasing colors.
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
 
 
 On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org 
 wrote:
 Something of an icon in Cortez, Colorado and excellent use of an old
 Airstream trailer.
 
 Good coffee, too :-)
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1855-K5-1peso.html
 
 
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 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
 ++
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 http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
 
 
 
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Re: PESO - Urban Photography

2013-07-10 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks, Dave! And thanks to all who looked and commented.

Cheers,
frank

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From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
Sent: July 8, 2013 7/8/13
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - Urban Photography

Frank, one of ther best so far this year.

Dave

On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 11:06 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/urban-photography.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank

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RE: PESO - Feeding Time for Grebelings

2013-07-10 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
This was in Col. Sam Smith Park right next to the Lake Shore Yacht Club. 

Wish I'd have seen the young ones piggy-backing dad. They're too big for that 
now. I saw them try to climb up but parent was having none of it.

I think the reason this year was so successful for breeding is that they 
attached huge pink and white floating balls to the floating nests. I guess the 
scared predators away. Certainly scared photographers away. They were so ug-lee!

But the results speak for themselves.

Thanks for the comments, Gerrit, Bruce, Dan and everyone else who commented and 
looked.

I'm glad I got to capture it, even if not the most technically proficient photo.

Cheers,
frank




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From: Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com
Sent: July 7, 2013 7/7/13
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: PESO - Feeding Time for Grebelings

That is lovely, almost moving! And a calm day for once.


I think we had a picnic in the same basin on June 20. Only saw 2 little ones
at the time. One was on dad's back but fell off when dad climbed onto the
nest.

gerrit



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Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 6:19 PM
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Feeding Time for Grebelings

I don't know if that's really what baby grebes are called; I guess I should
look it up.

So the excitement is that for the first time that anyone remembers the local
red necked grebe eggs have hatched and no less than five baby grebes have
been spotted around the lakeside park near my apartment!

I was thrilled to spot this parent feeding a little one:

 
http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/07/feeding-time-for-grebelings.html?m
=1

It was a one shot deal. The next dive the parent came up quite far away and
the little one drifted over, out of my range. I did continue shooting but
they were too small and blurry. I watched with fascination for half an hour
while mom or dad (don't know which) performed dive after dive, coming up
with a small fish each time for baby. Then they retired to their nest.

So this isn't the sharpest shot ever, but it was the only one I got. As a
document it's okay, but not a great nature photo, to very sure.

Still, I hope you enjoy it. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank 

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Re: PESO - Aussi Power Run

2013-07-10 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks, Walt!

And thanks to everyone else who commented. I didn't expect so much positive 
feedback, especially considering my own lukewarm feelings.

Also thanks to all who looked. Much appreciated.

Cheers,
frank



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Sent: July 9, 2013 7/9/13
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Subject: Re: PESO - Aussi Power Run

Same here. In fact, it makes the shot a little more interesting to me.

-- Walt

On 7/9/2013 5:52 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
 Frank the slight OOF on the subject workd for me

 Dave

 On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:45 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't often show misses, but this one's so close I had to share. Sadly, I 
 missed the focus (see how the guys behind him are sharp?), but otherwise I 
 think it would have been a fine shot:

   http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/aussi-power-run.html?m=1

 Oh well.

 Hope you enjoy anyway. Comments always welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank


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RE: PESO - Feeding Time for Grebelings

2013-07-10 Thread Gerrit Visser
That is a lovely area for picnics and nature watching. What amazed me is
that the cormorants left them alone!
We used to live at Palace Place, another great area, near the recent fog
photo that you took.

I have a working photo blog now so I will try to post process some of the
same birds in the next few days.

Gerrit

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Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:54 PM
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Subject: RE: PESO - Feeding Time for Grebelings

This was in Col. Sam Smith Park right next to the Lake Shore Yacht Club. 

Wish I'd have seen the young ones piggy-backing dad. They're too big for
that now. I saw them try to climb up but parent was having none of it.

I think the reason this year was so successful for breeding is that they
attached huge pink and white floating balls to the floating nests. I guess
the scared predators away. Certainly scared photographers away. They were so
ug-lee!

But the results speak for themselves.

Thanks for the comments, Gerrit, Bruce, Dan and everyone else who commented
and looked.

I'm glad I got to capture it, even if not the most technically proficient
photo.

Cheers,
frank




--- Original Message ---

From: Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com
Sent: July 7, 2013 7/7/13
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: PESO - Feeding Time for Grebelings

That is lovely, almost moving! And a calm day for once.


I think we had a picnic in the same basin on June 20. Only saw 2 little ones
at the time. One was on dad's back but fell off when dad climbed onto the
nest.

gerrit



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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 6:19 PM
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Feeding Time for Grebelings

I don't know if that's really what baby grebes are called; I guess I should
look it up.

So the excitement is that for the first time that anyone remembers the local
red necked grebe eggs have hatched and no less than five baby grebes have
been spotted around the lakeside park near my apartment!

I was thrilled to spot this parent feeding a little one:

 
http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/07/feeding-time-for-grebelings.html?m
=1

It was a one shot deal. The next dive the parent came up quite far away and
the little one drifted over, out of my range. I did continue shooting but
they were too small and blurry. I watched with fascination for half an hour
while mom or dad (don't know which) performed dive after dive, coming up
with a small fish each time for baby. Then they retired to their nest.

So this isn't the sharpest shot ever, but it was the only one I got. As a
document it's okay, but not a great nature photo, to very sure.

Still, I hope you enjoy it. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank 

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Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Everyone -
This is what I ordered from KEH tonight
http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Digital-Camera-Bodies/1/sku-DP029991177660?r=FE#

... then got and email saying they wouldnt take my credit card money 
until they saw that they have the item in stock for sure. (tomorrow)

fingers crossed ...


Thanks for all the good input re the K-5 -
I do have a good card reader that reads both CFs and SD's so I'm all set 
there.  Definitely well get a spare battery.  Have been happy with

the PEF's the istD puts out, why would I need to DNG? (serious question)
 Can't imagine anything larger that an 16 gb sd card would be needed 
but I'll get a 32 as several of you mention it.


I'll get to scout out the venue before the event (though I've been thre 
once before)  It will be a relatively small wedding - maybe 65 to 70 and

not a formal affair - Groom will not be wearing a tie. Bride is wearing
(oh dear) _black_.  should I worry about my friend the groom???:-)

I'll only be shooting officially for a couple of hours.. posed pics
before, then the very short ceremony.  And the venue unencumbered by
people, probably.

In answer to the lens question, I doubt I'll be using the manual primes
jsut the 18-55 kit lens and the 55-300, maybe.  I'm not even sure I'll 
bother with that.  I'll bring the istd bondy for backup. And pack

my bag with the flash and rubber-band and card reflector - but hope
I don't have to bring it out.

I've done a fair number of weddings over the years, but all with film.
Though the events I've shot with digital is basically the same kind
of shooting .

I want to get comfortable with the camera fast as  I can.  Not too
fancy.

ann


On 7/10/2013 11:35, David J Brooks wrote:

Ann.

I have shot a few indoor events, no flash with iso around 3200 or
higher and they came out fine in AWB. I shoot DNG's, my LR can handle
the Pefs but my PS is old and does not handle the PEFs. I find LR 4
handles any noise just fine. I used to shoot raw/jpeg so i could load
up a jalbum quikly

Dave

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to
shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding
ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is
doing that.  At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and
especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc

But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in
nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as
soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am
doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and
practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a
brand new one.

IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words
about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in
switching from the D...

I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB
fare?  My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto
my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files
- do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs?

any suggestions at all are welcome.

boy, it is nice to be back!

Regards,
ann

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Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread Ann Sanfedele
P.s. to my earlier response... Christine, your mention of the lowlight 
green thingy very useful - which reminded me I certainly will be 
shutting off any thing that makes noise, too!


I'm thinking of only shooting in raw,as I always do - that would be 
faster, right?


How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card?  I can't imagine 
shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that.


ann

On 7/10/2013 13:29, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Ann:

Wow!  What fun!  You'll love the K-5.  AWB is pretty darn good.  It's my go-to 
white balance and in Lightroom 4 any necessary tweakings are easy-peasy.  High 
ISO settings are excellent like others have said.  But if it is a bit dark, 
auto-focusing can be a little challenging.  The K-5 does have an auto-assistant 
focus lamp, so in really low light a green light will stream to the subject, 
which can elicit some funny facial and body responses.  You'll want to turn 
that off though during serious, solemn moments were there should be no 
distraction.  Easy to do in the Menu Options.

I shoot DNG--you have that option with K-5--, so no conversions are needed, and 
I hardly ever shoot jpegs--always RAW.  I don't renumber any of my RAW files 
either.  I just stick the memory card in my Lexar card reader, then import to 
my processing software, which is Lightroom.

Very excited for you.  Hope you enjoy what I think is a great camera.

Big cheers, Christine






On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:


I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to 
shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding
ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is doing 
that.  At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and
especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc

But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in nY 
standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as soon 
as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am doing that) 
Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and practice. Have 
enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a brand new one.

IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words about 
making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in switching from 
the D...

I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB
fare?  My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto
my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files - 
do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs?

any suggestions at all are welcome.

boy, it is nice to be back!

Regards,
ann

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Re: PESO - Feeding Time for Grebelings

2013-07-10 Thread Ann Sanfedele

aw -
Love that you got the decisive moment on this one - and the reflections 
are nice too. How nice even to witness it.


ann




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Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 6:19 PM
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Feeding Time for Grebelings

I don't know if that's really what baby grebes are called; I guess I should
look it up.

So the excitement is that for the first time that anyone remembers the local
red necked grebe eggs have hatched and no less than five baby grebes have
been spotted around the lakeside park near my apartment!

I was thrilled to spot this parent feeding a little one:


http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/07/feeding-time-for-grebelings.html?m
=1

It was a one shot deal. The next dive the parent came up quite far away and
the little one drifted over, out of my range. I did continue shooting but
they were too small and blurry. I watched with fascination for half an hour
while mom or dad (don't know which) performed dive after dive, coming up
with a small fish each time for baby. Then they retired to their nest.

So this isn't the sharpest shot ever, but it was the only one I got. As a
document it's okay, but not a great nature photo, to very sure.

Still, I hope you enjoy it. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank

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RE: PESO - Mist

2013-07-10 Thread John Coyle
Excellent shot Frank.  Did you try cloning out the birds in the top right 
corner?  My eyes went
straight to them!

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




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Subject: PESO - Mist

Haven't had much sun lately so ya gotta go with what ya get:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/mist.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank  

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Re: PESO - Mist

2013-07-10 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I was feeling unwell on Monday so was at home. About 5:30pm the skies opened up 
and it rained so hard it seemed the rain was going ~up~ as it was bouncing so 
violently on the window sills. 

Then after about five minutes of the deluge the power went out. Don't know when 
it came back on but it was there when we awoke the next morning.

No flooding around us just no power for about ten or twelve hours. We got off 
lucky.

A few small pockets of Mississauga were without power this morning but I think 
it is all on now.

Hope your friends downtown got through ok.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
Sent: July 10, 2013 7/10/13
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Subject: Re: PESO - Mist

Did you lose power the other day? I wrote Fred and Greta when I saw the
flooding on the news but they were ok where they are.  would like to see 
your color version of this foggy scene

ann


On 7/10/2013 08:39, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Haven't had much sun lately so ya gotta go with what ya get:

   http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/mist.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank

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Re: PESO - Swallow on a Cat Tail

2013-07-10 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Yup - keeper...
I first read the subject line as ... on a Cat's tail  :-)

ann

On 7/5/2013 15:35, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

My last barn swallow pic for a while (unless I'm really lucky this weekend), 
this one features a different look. It was overcast and not very bright so 
instead of bumping up the ISO I decided to open the aperture to (I think) f5.6.

I think the narrower dof is kind of cool:

  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/07/swallow-on-cat-tail.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank

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RE: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread Gerrit Visser
Give or take 800 angels on a 32gb using DNG on a K5.
Not sure if anyone mentioned it, the shutter is very quiet compared to K100D
et al. Not silent but quiet.

jpg takes more processing power in the camera, plus you want Raw anyway to
processing :-) So may as well just shoot raw. I switched to raw only before
our last trip and ain't going back.

Gerrit



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P.s. to my earlier response... Christine, your mention of the lowlight green
thingy very useful - which reminded me I certainly will be shutting off any
thing that makes noise, too!

I'm thinking of only shooting in raw,as I always do - that would be faster,
right?

How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card?  I can't imagine shooting
more than 300 to 400 frames - if that.

ann

On 7/10/2013 13:29, Christine Aguila wrote:
 Hi Ann:

 Wow!  What fun!  You'll love the K-5.  AWB is pretty darn good.  It's my
go-to white balance and in Lightroom 4 any necessary tweakings are
easy-peasy.  High ISO settings are excellent like others have said.  But if
it is a bit dark, auto-focusing can be a little challenging.  The K-5 does
have an auto-assistant focus lamp, so in really low light a green light will
stream to the subject, which can elicit some funny facial and body
responses.  You'll want to turn that off though during serious, solemn
moments were there should be no distraction.  Easy to do in the Menu
Options.

 I shoot DNG--you have that option with K-5--, so no conversions are
needed, and I hardly ever shoot jpegs--always RAW.  I don't renumber any of
my RAW files either.  I just stick the memory card in my Lexar card reader,
then import to my processing software, which is Lightroom.

 Very excited for you.  Hope you enjoy what I think is a great camera.

 Big cheers, Christine






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 I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to 
 hire me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief 
 wedding ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) 
 someone else is doing that.  At first i begged off... my *istD isn't 
 up to that and especially after this recent battery episode, not high 
 enough ISO, etc

 But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog
in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and
as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am
doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and
practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a
brand new one.

 IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words
about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in
switching from the D...

 I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB 
 fare?  My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto 
 my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw
files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs?

 any suggestions at all are welcome.

 boy, it is nice to be back!

 Regards,
 ann

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Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread John

I made a quick on-line search, and it looks like you can get 2 - good
quality 32GB Class 10 SDHC cards for slightly less than the cost of a
single 64GB SDXC Class 10 card of the same quality.

I'm not sure where BH is located in relation to where Ann lives, but if
I'm calculating it correctly it comes out to about a $2 savings getting
2x32GB Cl 10 over 1x64GB Cl 10. Might be worth the walk if you're going
out to exercise anyway?

Plus the benefit of not having all your eggs in one basket.

On 7/10/2013 2:03 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, Larry Colen wrote:


Realistically, I doubt that you need more than a 32G card, which
was at the peak for storage/dollar the last time I checked.
A year ago, I shot for a week at dance/music events and used less
than 32G per day. As people know, I am not shy about taking extra
shots with digital, just to make sure that one of them turns out.


Twice on my Alaska trip I ran through a 32GB card in a single day, so if
Ann's at all worried about storage, my strong advice would be to go for
64GB (I'm glad I took my primary's advice about getting a pair of 32GB
cards in addition to the pair of 16GB I started with).  This was very
little video, very little continuous shooting, and a fair number of
bracket shots.  Per previous e-mail, this was DNG, no JPEG.

Another option might be to go for the EyeFi, but that would be pretty
spendy -- just mentioning it for the record.




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Re: OT Computer conundrum for those who care.

2013-07-10 Thread John

On 7/10/2013 2:33 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

It's a enclosure from Gigaware, I checked the online reviews and it
doesn't seem to be problematic, had a front panel activity light,
(broke, it and it was my fault), and wonder of wonders a rocker switch
for to turn it on and off.



Still, seems like you've got two possible points of failure there - the
enclosure or the drive and you won't really know which it is until you
isolate the fault.



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Re: How do you photograph dark skinned people?

2013-07-10 Thread P.J. Alling
I have nothing to share except that a mix of skin colors is nothing 
compared to a black bride in a white dress.


On 4/20/2013 12:15 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote:

Request please share resources for photographing dark skinned people.
There is still a greater challenge, that of photographing a group of
people  with yellow, brown, white, black skin or every other races of
mankind.
Regards.
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Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread Rick Womer
Ann, that is =excellent=.  You're gonna love it.

Except for testing purposes, I've not used the flash with the camera in ~9000 
exposures.  The low light sensitivity is wonderful.

I use straight DNG output (~300 shots fit on an 8GB card), rename them on 
import into Lightroom (Bloggs Weddg 8-13 #__), and processing is simple from 
that point.

Cheers,

Rick
 
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From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:09 AM
Subject: soon to be enabled

I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire 
me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding
ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else 
is doing that.  At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and
especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc

But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog 
in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail 
and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I 
already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get 
it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't 
need to have a brand new one.

IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words 
about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in 
switching from the D...

I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB
fare?  My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto
my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw 
files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs?

any suggestions at all are welcome.

boy, it is nice to be back!

Regards,
ann

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Re: PESO - Mist

2013-07-10 Thread Rick Womer
Very nice!  With the weather in TO I've been reading about, I'm surprised it's 
Mist rather than Deluge.

Cheers,

Rick
 
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Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:39 AM
Subject: PESO - Mist

Haven't had much sun lately so ya gotta go with what ya get:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/mist.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank  

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Re: Rolling down the track

2013-07-10 Thread John

Who'd it belong to  where was it going?

On 7/10/2013 5:50 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 10/7/13, Don Guthrie, discombobulated, unleashed:


Recently had an opportunity to photograph a genuine steam engine on the
tracks. I took many pictures and will post some galleries when I get
them up on flicker. Meantime for those who have no moral objections to
Google plus please look at this link and let me know if the experience
works for you. Thanks

https://plus.google.com/u/0/100687245332697763729/posts/BbeeSxVWxD5


Interesting choice of composition! Personally I would lose the dead
space left of the tree, but it loses nothing in your interpretation.

I like it.



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Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread John

Maybe not the best comparison, since he got fired last month. ;-D

On 7/10/2013 8:12 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

Congratulations on getting the K-5.  To paraphrase the Men's Wearhouse
guy...You're gonna like the way it works...I guarantee it

I still shoot PEFs and let Lightroom convert to DNG upon import as the
Adobe conversion gives a slightly smaller file size.  If I think I'll
need a quick turnaround to put up a gallery, I'll shoot RAW+JPG with the
JPG set to the smallest file size so they're web-ready.

-p

On 7/10/2013 10:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire
me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding
ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else
is doing that.  At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and
especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc

But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog
in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail
and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I
already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get
it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't
need to have a brand new one.

IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words
about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in
switching from the D...

I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB
fare?  My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto
my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw
files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs?

any suggestions at all are welcome.

boy, it is nice to be back!

Regards,
ann





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Re: Peso - Grab shot

2013-07-10 Thread Rick Womer
Well, I'm afraid I disagree with Gerrit--I think the grafitti face right above 
the rider makes the left side cluttered and distracting; so this one doesn't 
quite work for me.

Rick
 
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To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
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Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 9:32 PM
Subject: RE: Peso - Grab shot

I love how the figure in the background seems to be part of the rider. A
smidgin earlier or later and it wouldn't work as well.

Gerrit

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Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 8:24 PM
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... and test.  if this gets through and nothing else does tonight, at least
I can read comments

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_
D88Ngw/1/2625300581_xMdMdk3/Large

Time Warner and Road Runner assure me they are working on the problem.

ann with crossed fingers

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Re: How do you photograph dark skinned people?

2013-07-10 Thread J.C. O'Connell

On 7/10/2013 10:31 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
I have nothing to share except that a mix of skin colors is nothing 
compared to a black bride in a white dress.


On 4/20/2013 12:15 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote:

Request please share resources for photographing dark skinned people.
There is still a greater challenge, that of photographing a group of
people  with yellow, brown, white, black skin or every other races of
mankind.
Regards.
Bipin - from that far away enchanting land.




For a black bride in a white dress, expose for the skin tones, and let 
the entire
dress blow out white if it has to.  It looks far more natural than the 
alternative.


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Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread Christine Aguila

On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 P.s. to my earlier response... Christine, your mention of the lowlight green 
 thingy very useful - which reminded me I certainly will be shutting off any 
 thing that makes noise, too!
 
 I'm thinking of only shooting in raw,as I always do - that would be faster, 
 right?
 
 How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card?  I can't imagine shooting 
 more than 300 to 400 frames - if that.


A LOT!!! :-))  I only shoot on 8gig cards, so I don't know exactly how many 
frames fit on a 32 bigger.  I think I get about 200 frames on an 8 gig card 
with RAW.  I use 8 gigs because of the all eggs in one basket fear.

Yep, you can turn off beeps on the K-5.  You'll be amazed at how quiet the 
shutter is too.

Can't wait to see your test/practice shots, Ann.  You're going to have a lot of 
fun playing with the K-5 before your shoot.

Cheers, Christine







 ann
 
 On 7/10/2013 13:29, Christine Aguila wrote:
 Hi Ann:
 
 Wow!  What fun!  You'll love the K-5.  AWB is pretty darn good.  It's my 
 go-to white balance and in Lightroom 4 any necessary tweakings are 
 easy-peasy.  High ISO settings are excellent like others have said.  But if 
 it is a bit dark, auto-focusing can be a little challenging.  The K-5 does 
 have an auto-assistant focus lamp, so in really low light a green light will 
 stream to the subject, which can elicit some funny facial and body 
 responses.  You'll want to turn that off though during serious, solemn 
 moments were there should be no distraction.  Easy to do in the Menu Options.
 
 I shoot DNG--you have that option with K-5--, so no conversions are needed, 
 and I hardly ever shoot jpegs--always RAW.  I don't renumber any of my RAW 
 files either.  I just stick the memory card in my Lexar card reader, then 
 import to my processing software, which is Lightroom.
 
 Very excited for you.  Hope you enjoy what I think is a great camera.
 
 Big cheers, Christine
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 
 I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me 
 to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding
 ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is 
 doing that.  At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and
 especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc
 
 But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in 
 nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as 
 soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am 
 doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and 
 practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a 
 brand new one.
 
 IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words 
 about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in 
 switching from the D...
 
 I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB
 fare?  My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto
 my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files 
 - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs?
 
 any suggestions at all are welcome.
 
 boy, it is nice to be back!
 
 Regards,
 ann
 
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Re: How do you photograph dark skinned people?

2013-07-10 Thread John
Incident metering for exposure and a 18% grey card or a Gretag Macbeth 
Color Checker for white balance.


On 7/10/2013 10:31 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

I have nothing to share except that a mix of skin colors is nothing
compared to a black bride in a white dress.

On 4/20/2013 12:15 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote:

Request please share resources for photographing dark skinned people.
There is still a greater challenge, that of photographing a group of
people  with yellow, brown, white, black skin or every other races of
mankind.
Regards.
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Re: How do you photograph dark skinned people?

2013-07-10 Thread John Sessoms

From: J.C. O'Connell

On 7/10/2013 10:31 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

I have nothing to share except that a mix of skin colors is nothing
compared to a black bride in a white dress.

On 4/20/2013 12:15 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote:

Request please share resources for photographing dark skinned people.
There is still a greater challenge, that of photographing a group of
people  with yellow, brown, white, black skin or every other races of
mankind.
Regards.
Bipin - from that far away enchanting land.





For a black bride in a white dress, expose for the skin tones, and
let the entire dress blow out white if it has to.  It looks far more
natural than the alternative.


Not if she paid $3k+ for a Vera Wang dress you don't. You better capture
every frickin' tiny little detail!

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Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread Boris Liberman
Great news, Ann. You're going to enjoy your new camera. The only thing
I can suggest is that you shoot extensively with K-5 before you do any
serious work (such as your friend's wedding) with it. It has very
different rhythm than *istD (or K10D for that matter, which is from
where I transitioned to K-7).

I do suggest that you set your K-5 to output DNGs. I don't even
remember if it can do PEFs.

And certainly - welcome back!

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire me to
 shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding
 ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else is
 doing that.  At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and
 especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc

 But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog in
 nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail and as
 soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I already am
 doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get it soon and
 practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't need to have a
 brand new one.

 IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words
 about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in
 switching from the D...

 I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB
 fare?  My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto
 my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw files
 - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs?

 any suggestions at all are welcome.

 boy, it is nice to be back!

 Regards,
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Re: PESO - Mist

2013-07-10 Thread Boris Liberman
It certainly works.

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:39 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Haven't had much sun lately so ya gotta go with what ya get:

  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/mist.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

 Cheers,
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Re: Even more macro enablement?

2013-07-10 Thread Boris Liberman
I've known about the existence of such an extension tube for quite a
while. But I can hardly remember a time when I might have seen it
either offered for sale or photographs taken with its help. It is a
curious item. The most curious thing is why Pentax did not produce
such thing on their own. Also, some people take cheap macro converters
that provide variable magnification ratio by means of zooming (say,
Panagor macro converter, which I used to have and which, by the way,
is a fine macro converter on its own merit), remove the optics and
effectively get themselves a zoom macro ring.

Well, but now that you got your wonder-extension-tube, you ought to
take pictures with it and post them here.

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tripped across a piece of equipment that I was not aware of this
 morning and (just in case others didn't know about it either) thought
 I would pass it along.

 It is a AF extension tube that works even with SDM lenses. It is
 called the Kenko Uniplus Tube 25 and it was once made for Pentax, now
 extremely hard to find. As good fortune would have it, I no more than
 learned about it and looked and there was one listed on ePray (from
 Japan) that had only 9 views when I snatched it up (Buy It Now).

 I'm passing this info along because it can turn your DA* 50-135mm or
 even your DA 40 XS into a superb macro lens. If you don't believe me
 check out this French Pentaxian's work. If you only have time to look
 at ONE, check this out:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/15251430@N03/9168541564/

 Here all ALL of his images tagged with Uniplus:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/fs999/tags/uniplus/

 The macro shots taken with the DA 40 XS can be seen here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/fs999/tags/pentaxda40mmf28xs/

 Macros taken with the combo of the Uniplus Tube and the DA* 50-135mm are here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/fs999/tags/pentaxda50135mmf28sdm/

 I don't own either of those two lenses. He tells me that the Uniplus
 Tube works with anything over 20mm (with a 20mm the subject is just 1
 cm from the front of the lens).

 I'm curious to see how it works with reducing the minimum focusing
 distance when used with the Bigma (and how much of the infinity end
 you lose).

 If you really want to blow some time, FS999 has a lot of very engaging
 sets on Flickr.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/fs999/sets/

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Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card?  I can't imagine
 shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that.

The Pentax K-5 II was getting 900 DNGs per 32GB card.  I couldn't
imagine taking more than 200-300 shots in a day before my Alaska cruise,
I was wrong; do you really want to take a chance?  Given what you've
said about your discomfort with the small size of SD cards, IMO you
really should get a 64GB card.

I also recommend bringing a spare SD card reader, they're cheap.
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Re: OT Computer conundrum for those who care.

2013-07-10 Thread David Mann
On Jul 11, 2013, at 8:51 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:

 All digital photographers are by definition computer hobbyists.

I thought it went the other way around.  When cameras went digital all the 
computer hobbyists suddenly became expert photographers.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO - Mist

2013-07-10 Thread David Mann
On Jul 11, 2013, at 12:39 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Haven't had much sun lately so ya gotta go with what ya get:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/mist.html?m=1

Lovely photo.  It suits the mood I've been in all day.

Another commenter mentioned the birds... I like them but it'd be nicer if they 
were further to the left.

Cheers,
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Re: PAW183 - Clouds

2013-07-10 Thread DagT
Sorry for the misspelling, Rick :-(

Sendt fra min iPad

Den 11. juli 2013 kl. 00:08 skrev DagT li...@thrane.name:

 Thanks Tick, Steve, Brian, Marco, Dave, knarf, Bruce and Philip too :-)
 
 DagT
 
 10. juli 2013 kl. 02:21 skrev Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com:
 
 Outstanding!  Hard v. soft, grey v. blue and white, rectangular v. 
 irregular--a wonderful study of contrasts.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Rick
 
 http://photo.net/photos/RickW
 
 
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 Subject: PAW183 - Clouds
 
 http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
 Pentax K-5, FA77mm, 1/250s, f/14, ISO100, 
 
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Re: soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread Walt

On 7/10/2013 11:48 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

How many angels fit on the head of a 32gb card?  I can't imagine
shooting more than 300 to 400 frames - if that.

The Pentax K-5 II was getting 900 DNGs per 32GB card.  I couldn't
imagine taking more than 200-300 shots in a day before my Alaska cruise,
I was wrong; do you really want to take a chance?  Given what you've
said about your discomfort with the small size of SD cards, IMO you
really should get a 64GB card.

I also recommend bringing a spare SD card reader, they're cheap.
Also, you might want to consider using something like a pair of tweezers 
to get the SD card out of the K-5. I found it a little more difficult to 
pull out of the slot than on any of my other bodies due to the weather 
sealing. It holds it fairly snugly, and if you don't use the right touch 
when you press and release it, it doesn't eject the card quite as far 
and it can be a little tough to grasp with your fingertips.


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Re: The oddest thing

2013-07-10 Thread Rob Studdert
Possibly the sensor positioning mech was shut down in that time, the
CCD would then slump to the bottom of the camera creating a shift
effect.

On 9 July 2013 03:32, CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/sets/72157634547270776/

 These images were taken just moments apart.  The camera was not moved and
 the object was flipped vertically in the same position.
 So why the cropping?  Well, best that I can figure is that, with the camera
 on since last Wed., even though asleep, the CPU required a reset.
 It was fixed by removing and re-inserting the battery.  Still, this is the
 oddest thin I've seen  yet with a DSLR.

 K30, A50/2.8 Macro

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Re: can you see me now?

2013-07-10 Thread David Mann
On Jul 10, 2013, at 12:39 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 Let's remember Murray is a Scot - happily no one HERE has called him English 
 - but The NY Times took some heat briefly for saying it was a great day for 
 ENGLAND and Murray

Yeah for some reason he's English when he wins and Scottish when he loses.

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Re: PESO - The Kiss

2013-07-10 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 9/7/13, Marco Alpert, discombobulated, unleashed:

Thanks, Cotty. (There are certainly worse influences to hint of.)

Yes, sorry - I meant that in a positive way! :-)

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Re: PESO - Spider Rock

2013-07-10 Thread David Mann
On Jul 10, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html

That rock must be very popular with the climbers.  Looks like a very impressive 
place, the scale seems vast.

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Re: PESO: 50 years of LOUD - attn guitar freaks

2013-07-10 Thread David Mann
On Jul 9, 2013, at 7:35 PM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:

 Thanks Dave. Half a million quid to set that up. It would cost them 15
 grand each test if done externally so good value over time.

I used to work at an electronics company... our solution for RF testing was a 
large tent out the back of our section.  It wasn't very good but it wasn't half 
a million quid either.  We'd aim to get a bit of margin under the limits to 
have good confidence of passing, then we'd go to an external lab for the kind 
of testing we can use for compliance purposes.

It probably wasn't much help to have a cellphone tower less than 100 metres 
away :)  Plus good clear line-of-sight to every commercial radio  TV 
transmitter in the city.

Cheers,
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Re: OT Computer conundrum for those who care.

2013-07-10 Thread David Mann
On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:54 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sure the drive is probably toast, but I'd at least like to try to keep it 
 alive.  I'm looking for suggestions.

My advice is to forget the tools.  Just get the data off NOW while the drive is 
still functioning, and never use it for anything important again.  Make sure 
that any important data you retrieve was not corrupted while you have a chance 
to try again.

Then start thinking about how you do your backups.  You want to be in a 
situation where ANY single drive failing without warning will not cost you 
data.  You can ratchet up the paranoia level from there (eg burglary, house 
burning down etc which could take out multiple backups in one hit).

Sorry if I seem a little alarmist but I've been in a similar situation with 
data I really didn't want to lose.  I was lucky that time.

...and your sig does seem kind of appropriate ;)

 There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive 
 failure, and those that will.

Cheers,
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RE: OT Computer conundrum for those who care.

2013-07-10 Thread Gerrit Visser
You can always make it into one of these to save it from the dumpster:
http://hotchk155.blogspot.ca/2012/02/digital-pov-clock-working-mostly.html
Gerrit

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On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:54 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Sure the drive is probably toast, but I'd at least like to try to keep it
alive.  I'm looking for suggestions.

My advice is to forget the tools.  Just get the data off NOW while the drive
is still functioning, and never use it for anything important again.  Make
sure that any important data you retrieve was not corrupted while you have a
chance to try again.

Then start thinking about how you do your backups.  You want to be in a
situation where ANY single drive failing without warning will not cost you
data.  You can ratchet up the paranoia level from there (eg burglary, house
burning down etc which could take out multiple backups in one hit).

Sorry if I seem a little alarmist but I've been in a similar situation with
data I really didn't want to lose.  I was lucky that time.

...and your sig does seem kind of appropriate ;)

 There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard
drive failure, and those that will.

Cheers,
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Re: July PUG is up!!

2013-07-10 Thread Mark C
Great gallery, as usual. Many stand outs here but my favorite is Eric's 
Bee - super details and colors!


Mark

On 7/6/2013 7:34 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

A fairly small gallery this month and, as usual, you'll find it here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery 
there)


Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not 
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the 
gallery, let me know.


+

We have an extra gallery for July:

'Open Gallery' - closing date 20 July.  Quite a few submissions so far 
- there's no theme, just submit an image you'd like to share. What 
could be easier?  :-)


The August theme is 'Signs of the Times'.


Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

The main requirements are:
* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body 
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* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to 
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PESO - Mist

2013-07-10 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Haven't had much sun lately so ya gotta go with what ya get:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/mist.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO - Spider Rock

2013-07-10 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I doubt very much that any climbing of Spider rock is allowed. It is an 
important part of Navajo folklore and history and though a National 
Monument, it is on Navajo Nation land.


Despite your battle with the light , Brian, I really like this shot..
I've photographed it from about the same spot (like, yeah, that's where 
the overlook is :-) ) and we hiked down to the White House.


Dave - Spider rock is about 800 feet - The canyon at this point really 
isn't all that vast by high country standards and gets pretty narrow -

flash flooding there is always a hazard.

Now lets see if -this- mail gets to you all

ann

On 7/10/2013 05:35, David Mann wrote:

On Jul 10, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html


That rock must be very popular with the climbers.  Looks like a very impressive 
place, the scale seems vast.

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Re: PESO - Mist

2013-07-10 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Did you lose power the other day? I wrote Fred and Greta when I saw the
flooding on the news but they were ok where they are.  would like to see 
your color version of this foggy scene


ann


On 7/10/2013 08:39, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Haven't had much sun lately so ya gotta go with what ya get:

  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/mist.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

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Re: GESO: Damn damage!

2013-07-10 Thread John

I'll be going back to the store today, to find out how they're going to
resolve the issue. Either they'll get another one delivered to me
*undamaged* or refund my purchase, but I don't yet know which it's going
to be.

On 7/10/2013 12:31 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

Hard luck! There's me going on about my good fortune amp wise and this
happens...

Chris

On 8 July 2013 19:57, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:

Not the GESO I was hoping to post.

Fedex attempted to deliver my amplifier this morning. It was dropped
somewhere in transit. There was a bit of visible damage on the outside of
the carton which prompted me to open it while the delivery driver waited.
The concealed damage was considerably worse.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/sets/72157634552778170

K-20D, ISO 6400.

It's pretty obvious the carton must have been dropped from sufficient height
it landed inverted on the upper right front corner.

I refused the shipment  have already been over to the music store about
getting it replaced or the purchase canceled.

I was so shook up I botched up some of the photos I took to document the
damage. I needed the high ISO because the light is so dim on my front porch
 my hands were shaking so bad it was giving SR a fit.

But after we repacked it, I took some more photos of the outside of the
carton outdoors  didn't think to reset the ISO  they're so far overexposed
they're for all practical purposes useless.

The first image shows the corner the carton must have landed on when it was
dropped. Front  side, rear, side

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Re: OT Computer conundrum for those who care.

2013-07-10 Thread John

You mentioned it's in a USB enclosure. Have you tried mounting it in a
different USB enclosure. There's a small chance it's not the drive itself.

I don't know if it's one of those WD MyBook drives - you did say it was
a PRETTY SOLID enclosure  in my opinion those WD MyBook drives are
anything but. My experience with them is they have VERY flimsy power
supplies  sometimes what appears as a drive problem is actually a power
supply problem

On 7/10/2013 1:04 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

I can access the drive readily enough from the command line.  The backup
is still underway, (the program I'm using is aggressively trying to
recover some unreadable files, nothing irreplaceable I hope), so I'm not
about to attempt to format the drive until that operation completes.  I
haven't tried Knoppix that may not be necessary.  This machine is
running WinXP (SP3), and I suspect that running the manufactures disk
diagnostic and repair/format utility might do a better job than the
windows format, for blocking out any bad sectors.  I'm not sure at this
point that attempting to save the drive is even a good idea, but being a
Yankee, I hate to throw anything that might be useful away, so I'd like
to at least try.

It's odd that Seagate's utility can at see and test the problematic
drive while Western Digital's cannot.

On 7/10/2013 12:35 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

Does your computer see the drive from the command line?  Can you
format the drive from there using the DOS format command?

If you run Knoppix can your computer see the drive?  That's saved my
bacon several times.  I think you can do an NTFS format from Knoppix
if you can mount the drive.

-p

On 7/9/2013 5:54 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

So I have an interesting problem.  I have an older PATA/IDE drive that's
been put into a pretty solid USB case for external backups. It's been
working well, until now, but has just started to evidence read errors. I
figured no problem I'll run a quick diagnostic and if it's going bad,
back up everything then try to reformat and recover the hardware.

it's a WD drive most of my current drives are Seagate, but Seatools sees
it and will run generic short and long tests on it.  Long story short,
Short test Passed, Long test fails.  So I figure I'll download Western
Digital's tool and try that, to see if I can get a better handle on
what's happening.  WD's tool cannot see the drive. OK, so I had to back
it up anyway, that's underway.

Here's the conundrum.  Seatools will test the drive but won't do a low
level format on a WD drive.  DataLifeGuard doesn't see the drive as a WD
drive, just as a logical partition and won't run any tests on it, nor
will it low level format a drive it doesn't recognize.

Sure the drive is probably toast, but I'd at least like to try to keep
it alive.  I'm looking for suggestions.

I've found several people who've had the same problem with DataLifeGuard
recognizing only the logical partition of the drive in question, but no
solutions have been posted, to the forums I've checked.  I figured I
check here because this list is always full of surprises.








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Re: PESO - Spider Rock

2013-07-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Yes you got to us, Ann.  G

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On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 I doubt very much that any climbing of Spider rock is allowed. It is an
 important part of Navajo folklore and history and though a National
 Monument, it is on Navajo Nation land.

 Despite your battle with the light , Brian, I really like this shot..
 I've photographed it from about the same spot (like, yeah, that's where the
 overlook is :-) ) and we hiked down to the White House.

 Dave - Spider rock is about 800 feet - The canyon at this point really isn't
 all that vast by high country standards and gets pretty narrow -
 flash flooding there is always a hazard.

 Now lets see if -this- mail gets to you all

 ann


 On 7/10/2013 05:35, David Mann wrote:

 On Jul 10, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org
 wrote:


 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html


 That rock must be very popular with the climbers.  Looks like a very
 impressive place, the scale seems vast.

 Cheers,
 Dave



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Re: PESO - Mist

2013-07-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Quite nice -- a classic composition.

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knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Haven't had much sun lately so ya gotta go with what ya get:

  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/mist.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

 Cheers,
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Re: GESO: Damn damage!

2013-07-10 Thread John

Thanks. By now it's just a dull ache of aggravation; what am I going to
have to go through to get a good one?

On 7/10/2013 1:07 AM, Walt wrote:

Holy smokes, John.

I can fully understand how you'd be that shaken up, and I'm one of the
world's worst guitar players.

Sorry that happened to you. It had to be gut-wrenching.

-- Walt


On 7/8/2013 1:57 PM, John wrote:

Not the GESO I was hoping to post.

Fedex attempted to deliver my amplifier this morning. It was dropped
somewhere in transit. There was a bit of visible damage on the outside
of the carton which prompted me to open it while the delivery driver
waited. The concealed damage was considerably worse.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/sets/72157634552778170

K-20D, ISO 6400.

It's pretty obvious the carton must have been dropped from sufficient
height it landed inverted on the upper right front corner.

I refused the shipment  have already been over to the music store
about getting it replaced or the purchase canceled.

I was so shook up I botched up some of the photos I took to document
the damage. I needed the high ISO because the light is so dim on my
front porch  my hands were shaking so bad it was giving SR a fit.

But after we repacked it, I took some more photos of the outside of
the carton outdoors  didn't think to reset the ISO  they're so far
overexposed they're for all practical purposes useless.

The first image shows the corner the carton must have landed on when
it was dropped. Front  side, rear, side






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Re: PESO - Spider Rock

2013-07-10 Thread John

On 7/10/2013 5:35 AM, David Mann wrote:

On Jul 10, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org
wrote:


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html





That rock must be very popular with the climbers.  Looks like a very
impressive place, the scale seems vast.

Cheers, Dave




It's illegal to climb. The Navajo own the canyon  the spire is one of
their sacred places.

The National Park goes around the rim. There are only a couple of places
where you are permitted to go into the canyon without being accompanied
by a Navajo guide. They run packaged jeep tours that are kind of
expensive for what you get.

Individual tours - the kind where you can stop  get out long enough to
set up a tripod - are even more so.

Moot point when I was there, because it had rained recently and all of
the tours were canceled due to flash floods inside the canyon.

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Re: GESO - Tempting alternates

2013-07-10 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 7/9/2013 2:36 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 I rejected
 some because they just didn't say_temptation_  to me, but are
 otherwise okay shots.

 Bruce, I'm at a loss as to how they could possibly say anything else.

It's very subjective, isn't it!

To my wife, the heels say temptation and she tried to persuade me that
that was the shot to use for PUG. She's a shoe person, and a
recovering shoeholic.

Iryna, the girl in all the shots, immediately made the heels shot her
Facebook cover photo. She teaches ballroom dancing and she too is a
shoe person. She's off the wagon.

I like a well-turned ankle, especially in heels, as much as the next
person, but shoes just don't call out to me. :-)

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Re: PESO - Spider Rock

2013-07-10 Thread Ann Sanfedele
yayay we are both back!  I wrote something similar to you about Spider 
Rock. which you will eventually see :-)


still crossing fingers the problem is solved

ann


On 7/10/2013 09:45, John wrote:

On 7/10/2013 5:35 AM, David Mann wrote:

On Jul 10, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org
wrote:


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html






That rock must be very popular with the climbers.  Looks like a very
impressive place, the scale seems vast.

Cheers, Dave




It's illegal to climb. The Navajo own the canyon  the spire is one of
their sacred places.

The National Park goes around the rim. There are only a couple of places
where you are permitted to go into the canyon without being accompanied
by a Navajo guide. They run packaged jeep tours that are kind of
expensive for what you get.

Individual tours - the kind where you can stop  get out long enough to
set up a tripod - are even more so.

Moot point when I was there, because it had rained recently and all of
the tours were canceled due to flash floods inside the canyon.



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Re: GESO - Tempting alternates

2013-07-10 Thread Bruce Walker
But that vortex, and its compromises, are why the finger is soft.

I'm using hotshoe flashes as my main light source (for various reasons
including portability). But they aren't very powerful, especially used
at 1/4 power which is what I normally use so the recycle times are
fast enough to keep up with me and the subject.

As this is a headshot I'm zoomed in with a tele to fill the frame and
even at F8 the DoF is slim. I wanted the focus to extend from her eyes
to her fingers and F8 wasn't quite enough. I compromised and focused
on her eyebrows. I was able to sharpen her eyes enough in post (Nik
sharpener has focus recovery that works well), but I left her finger.

So I could have stopped down one or two stops to F11 or F16. And I
might even have done that except I'd either have to spend about 5
minutes adjusting the flashes up two stops each -- one is inside a
softbox that has to be velcroed open and the other was outside on the
patio eight feet up on a stand -- or bump the ISO up to 800 which
would make the shot unacceptably noisy.

If I'd been using AC strobes I could have adjusted them from their
power pack or from a wireless remote on top of the camera. *That*
would be heaven. Some day. :-)


On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote:
 A bit better than ok! After getting a bit of background on these tonight I
 have to say it is still Northern Spy for me. The only minor distraction is
 the slightly out of focus finger.

 Trying not to get sucked into the lighting/setup vortex...

 Gerrit


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 Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 3:37 PM
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 Subject: GESO - Tempting alternates

 First, two shots in particular:

 http://flic.kr/p/f4MZEV - Northern Spy
 http://flic.kr/p/f5cDZU - Apple Saucy

 A large number of possible candidates for the Temptation PUG emerged from my
 shoot with Iryna, and here are the best of those. I rejected some because
 they just didn't say _temptation_ to me, but are otherwise okay shots.

 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjGFgCHr - The gallery. I'll be adding to this as I get
 some more time.

 All shot with K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8, 200 ISO, 2 x AFG540FGZ. Lr, Ps.

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Re: Fw: GESO - Tempting alternates

2013-07-10 Thread Bruce Walker
Appreciate it, Jack. And thanks Walt and Gerrit and everyone who had a look.

On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:


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 Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 1:56 PM
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 Of the gallery, I much prefer #1 and am trying to decide about #3.
 No's 2,4 5 .. not so much.

 Jack


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 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net
 Cc:
 Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 12:36 PM
 Subject: GESO - Tempting alternates

 First, two shots in particular:

 http://flic.kr/p/f4MZEV- Northern Spy
 http://flic.kr/p/f5cDZU- Apple Saucy

 A large number of possible candidates for the Temptation PUG emerged
 from my shoot with Iryna, and here are the best of those. I rejected
 some because they just didn't say _temptation_ to me, but are
 otherwise okay shots.

 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjGFgCHr- The gallery. I'll be adding to this as I
 get some more time.

 All shot with K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8, 200 ISO, 2 x AFG540FGZ. Lr, Ps.

 Comments welcome.

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Re: Fw: GESO - Tempting alternates

2013-07-10 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I like Apple Saucy best.

ann

On 7/10/2013 10:15, Bruce Walker wrote:

Appreciate it, Jack. And thanks Walt and Gerrit and everyone who had a look.

On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:



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Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: GESO - Tempting alternates



Of the gallery, I much prefer #1 and am trying to decide about #3.
No's 2,4 5 .. not so much.

Jack


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From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 12:36 PM
Subject: GESO - Tempting alternates

First, two shots in particular:

http://flic.kr/p/f4MZEV- Northern Spy
http://flic.kr/p/f5cDZU- Apple Saucy

A large number of possible candidates for the Temptation PUG emerged
from my shoot with Iryna, and here are the best of those. I rejected
some because they just didn't say _temptation_ to me, but are
otherwise okay shots.

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjGFgCHr- The gallery. I'll be adding to this as I
get some more time.

All shot with K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8, 200 ISO, 2 x AFG540FGZ. Lr, Ps.

Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO - Mist

2013-07-10 Thread Jack Davis
You did everything good possible with this shot, Frank.
Effective.

Jack


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Subject: PESO - Mist

Haven't had much sun lately so ya gotta go with what ya get:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/mist.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
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RE: PESO - Mist

2013-07-10 Thread Gerrit Visser
Lovely, great effect.

Gerrit

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Haven't had much sun lately so ya gotta go with what ya get:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/mist.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
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RE: PESO - Mist

2013-07-10 Thread Gerrit Visser
The west end lost power for about 16 hours, came back on just in time to
make the morning cappucinno's!
Another blip this AM. They pumped 1 million gallons of water out of one of
the local switching stations.

Gerrit

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Did you lose power the other day? I wrote Fred and Greta when I saw the
flooding on the news but they were ok where they are.  would like to see
your color version of this foggy scene

ann


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 Haven't had much sun lately so ya gotta go with what ya get:

   http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/mist.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank

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Re: PESO - Juvenile Grackle

2013-07-10 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks Jack. It is that, I suppose, technically proficient. As a document of 
what a young grackle looks like it certainly works. Would have preferred a more 
pleasing environment to shoot him in but there you go.

I appreciate the comments from all and thank all who looked.

Cheers,
frank

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Another technically well done bird shot.

Jack



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To: PDML@pdml.net 
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 3:37 PM
Subject: PESO - Juvenile Grackle


Adult grackles are not the most attractive birds; juveniles are downright ugly 
(although that little tuft on his head is kind of cute):

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/07/juvenile-grackle.html?m=1

The gravel pathway makes for a pretty unattractive background but it's fitting, 
somehow.  ;-)

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO - Mist

2013-07-10 Thread Bruce Walker
What Jack said. The grain really adds to the mood of it.

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 You did everything good possible with this shot, Frank.
 Effective.

 Jack


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 Haven't had much sun lately so ya gotta go with what ya get:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/mist.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

 Cheers,
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Re: Fw: GESO - Tempting alternates

2013-07-10 Thread Bruce Walker
Are you a shoeholic too, Ann? ;-)

Thanks!

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 I like Apple Saucy best.

 ann


 On 7/10/2013 10:15, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Appreciate it, Jack. And thanks Walt and Gerrit and everyone who had a
 look.

 On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:



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 Of the gallery, I much prefer #1 and am trying to decide about #3.
 No's 2,4 5 .. not so much.

 Jack


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 First, two shots in particular:

 http://flic.kr/p/f4MZEV- Northern Spy
 http://flic.kr/p/f5cDZU- Apple Saucy

 A large number of possible candidates for the Temptation PUG emerged
 from my shoot with Iryna, and here are the best of those. I rejected
 some because they just didn't say _temptation_ to me, but are
 otherwise okay shots.

 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjGFgCHr- The gallery. I'll be adding to this as I
 get some more time.

 All shot with K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8, 200 ISO, 2 x AFG540FGZ. Lr, Ps.

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Re: PESO - Spider Rock

2013-07-10 Thread Bruce Walker
Impressive structures! The light serves to bring them into relief so
works for you here, imo.

On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 In Canyon de Chelly, Arizona.

 We were there in the middle of the day so it's a bit harsh - you take the
 light you're given...

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1754-K5-1peso.html

 Comments and suggestions most welcome.


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Re: PESO - Lemmy Merckx

2013-07-10 Thread Bruce Walker
A bit of a motorhead maybe? ;-)

On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:24 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Eddy Merckx is perhaps the greatest road racer (cyclist) ever. After he 
 retired he made bikes. Very good ones.

 His lesser known brother Lemmy made lesser good bikes:

  http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/07/lemmy-merckx.html?m=1

 Whoever made the Lemmy Merckx downtube decal used exactly the same 
 lettering as on Eddy's steel frames. I think it's quite funny (but not all 
 will share my humour.

 Don't know this guy but he's got a messenger look about him.

 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

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Re: Peso - Grab shot

2013-07-10 Thread Bruce Walker
I love the shot Ann. And it looks like Road Runner has evaded the
blacklisting coyote once again. You're back on the air!

On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 ... and test.  if this gets through and nothing else does tonight, at least
 I can read comments

 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/2625300581_xMdMdk3/Large

 Time Warner and Road Runner assure me they are working on the problem.

 ann with crossed fingers

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Re: Fw: GESO - Tempting alternates

2013-07-10 Thread Ann Sanfedele
ha - not at all - haven't worn anything but flat sandals and sneakers in 
the past 30, hmm maybe even 40 years... although I am particular about 
those sooo...


I like the spin you took on this one - the other's are pleasant enough 
but obvious.  The profile one of those is the nicest I think, but this
one as a comic element - what would happen to you if you tried to get 
that apple?  and all that other stuff - nice light, etc.


ann

On 7/10/2013 10:50, Bruce Walker wrote:

Are you a shoeholic too, Ann? ;-)

Thanks!

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

I like Apple Saucy best.

ann


On 7/10/2013 10:15, Bruce Walker wrote:


Appreciate it, Jack. And thanks Walt and Gerrit and everyone who had a
look.

On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:




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Of the gallery, I much prefer #1 and am trying to decide about #3.
No's 2,4 5 .. not so much.

Jack


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From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net
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Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 12:36 PM
Subject: GESO - Tempting alternates

First, two shots in particular:

http://flic.kr/p/f4MZEV- Northern Spy
http://flic.kr/p/f5cDZU- Apple Saucy

A large number of possible candidates for the Temptation PUG emerged
from my shoot with Iryna, and here are the best of those. I rejected
some because they just didn't say _temptation_ to me, but are
otherwise okay shots.

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjGFgCHr- The gallery. I'll be adding to this as I
get some more time.

All shot with K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8, 200 ISO, 2 x AFG540FGZ. Lr, Ps.

Comments welcome.

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soon to be enabled

2013-07-10 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I good firend of mine is getting married in August.. he wanted to hire 
me to shoot the wedding - but only the portraits and the brief wedding
ceremony - not the reception (so I can eat and socialize) someone else 
is doing that.  At first i begged off... my *istD isn't up to that and

especially after this recent battery episode, not high enough ISO, etc

But the I realized I could do it for him inexpensively by wedding photog 
in nY standards for sure - the price of a K-5! His check is in the mail 
and as soon as I get it I'll be looking for the best price (well, I 
already am doing that) Saw an LN at KEH for about $550... I need to get 
it soon and practice. Have enough for that and spare batteries... don't 
need to have a brand new one.


IF anyone notices a better deal than that KEH one or has some sage words 
about making the K-5 behave well , or some things to watch out for in 
switching from the D...


I'm hoping to shoot without using flash at all. How does the AWB
fare?  My habit with the D is to simply load all the raw files onto
my computer from the card reader without renumbering/renaming the raw 
files - do any of you do both the PEF and the jpgs?


any suggestions at all are welcome.

boy, it is nice to be back!

Regards,
ann

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