RE: OT the memoir book

2013-08-27 Thread John Coyle
 I think the font size is Ok at 11pt. it's the line spacing which seems to be 
set at .89 which is
the problem, at least on my monitor.  The lines need to be at least single-line 
spacing to be read
easily.

HTH


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



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Enjoying your memoir.  Hope you get the 1970s on wordpress, too. 
But...the 11 pt, sans serif font is really hard to read - at least for my old 
eyes.  ;}

-p

On 8/26/2013 1:28 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
 I have managed to convert a rainy day into completing of 1980 for my book:
 http://slidetosat.wordpress.com/

 Not sure if I'll re add the 1970's to word press after posterous shut down.

 Rough draft still, just basically putting stuff down. I'm sure 
 memories will come back at a later date.

 Dave brooks


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Re: OT DigiPod (possibly on-topic)

2013-08-27 Thread Brian Walters
For me, something like this would be a bit of fun and not much more.   
I'll watch the project with interest but I doubt it can be produced at  
a price I'd be prepared to pay.



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Quoting P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:

Silicon film, big topic of discussion on the PDML, and elsewhere  
about 10 years ago, (pre *ist-D). Prototypes were actually developed  
eventually, for Canon and Nikon analog cameras.  You can read about  
it here.


http://www.dpreview.com/news/tag/silicon-film

On 8/26/2013 3:26 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

With a strong sense of déjà vu I pass along news of a guy who is
creating a cartridge for 35mm film camera bodies that outfits them
with a digital sensor and USB memory ...

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/digipod

I know there are folks here who have been waiting on this for a decade
and will be all over it like magnets on a fridge.

Bad news: it ain't FF. But as he improves it he'll be upping the  
sensor size.





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Re: Another Blurb book...

2013-08-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 26/8/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://www.blurb.com/b/4545115-a-semester-of-photoshop

That looks great - good luck with it!

Is there any option to view a page or two inside?

Flash preview is now available at the above link. Blurb Preview shows
chapter synopsis and chapter heading pages plus a few pages from
within a couple of chapters. 

Looks really fantastic Mark.

Stef is doing this degree:

http://prospectus.lsbu.ac.uk/courses/course.php?UCASCode=W640

I'll wait til he gets cracking and see where it heads and what resources
he leans to, but will possibly order a copy before Christmas if it looks
like he'll benefit, which I'm sure he would.

Best of luck with it.

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Re: PESO - Preaching to the Converted

2013-08-27 Thread Bob W
The first Tour de France took place in 1903. Geared bicycles weren't allowed 
until 1937 - the organisers thought they were for girly-boys. And they clearly 
do, since a mere three years after their introduction came the debacle of 1940.

B

On 27 Aug 2013, at 02:14, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:

 It finally occurred to me why I never understood single speed city bikes.
 
 The two cities I've lived for extended periods of time are San Francisco and 
 Seattle. 
 
 Not city bike territory. 
 
 
 On Aug 26, 2013, at 16:08 , knarf wrote:
 
 It's a road bike converted to a single speed city bike:
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/08/conversion.html?m=1

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Re: OT DigiPod (possibly on-topic)

2013-08-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 26/8/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

Awsome - he cites Ken Rockwell as a reference, so it's certain to work,
and come to market. 

Therefore I have decided to put my house on the market and give all the
proceeds to this guy, so he can make 2 digipods, and I can use a £30
camera again.

After watching 15, or was it even 20 seconds of the pitch video, I've
decided I'm going to develop something similar, but for reasons of
commercial confidentiality won't be producing a video or indeed
releasing any other form of information but rest assured the idea will
reach market - so suggest you send proceeds directly to me instead.

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Re: PESO 2013 - 087 - GDG

2013-08-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 26/8/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

Espresso on my birthday morning. Ah, nice! 

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9602594016/lightbox

Thanks for looking! 

Strangely enticing.


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Re: OT DigiPod (possibly on-topic)

2013-08-27 Thread Bob W
Not until you correct the spelling mistake in our sig.

B

On 27 Aug 2013, at 08:10, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

 On 26/8/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Awsome - he cites Ken Rockwell as a reference, so it's certain to work,
 and come to market. 
 
 Therefore I have decided to put my house on the market and give all the
 proceeds to this guy, so he can make 2 digipods, and I can use a £30
 camera again.
 
 After watching 15, or was it even 20 seconds of the pitch video, I've
 decided I'm going to develop something similar, but for reasons of
 commercial confidentiality won't be producing a video or indeed
 releasing any other form of information but rest assured the idea will
 reach market - so suggest you send proceeds directly to me instead.
 
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Re: PESO 2013 - 087 - GDG

2013-08-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 26/8/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

Regards the electric stove, well, it takes a while to figure it out but
once there it works okay. I'd prefer gas, but can't put in a gas stove
here, unfortunately. 

There's plenty of hot air already ;-)

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Re: OT DigiPod (possibly on-topic)

2013-08-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 27/8/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

Not until you correct the spelling mistake in our sig.

I'm trying to learn Spanish

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PESO IR Lift

2013-08-27 Thread Larry Colen
At the risk of boring folks here is some more shots with the IR rig.  
The monday dance in Santa Cruz is lit with LED
spots, which have no IR, so they'd be nicely saturated even if I shot with the
IR flash.  I did ask Ben to change the spots from magenta to green, so that 
I'd get better color contrast with the IR flash.


At the end of the evening, I was playing with the fisheye, and 
think this one is rather fun:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9603407409/

Full set at:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157635248776945/

Comments and observations welcome.

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PESO: BARBERTON DAISY with INSECT

2013-08-27 Thread Alan C
This is an original single variety which blooms like clockwork in my garden 
every spring. Most gardeners grow the fancy double hybrids. The Barberton 
Daisy is indigenous to the mountainous area bordering Swaziland, about 350km 
south of Phalaborwa.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9606991704/lightbox/

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Re: PESO - Preaching to the Converted

2013-08-27 Thread David Mann
On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 The first Tour de France took place in 1903. Geared bicycles weren't allowed 
 until 1937 - the organisers thought they were for girly-boys. And they 
 clearly do, since a mere three years after their introduction came the 
 debacle of 1940.


And in case you disagree, here's an infamous photo from the 2012 Olympics.  
Girly-boy road sprinter on the left, hard-man track sprinter on the right.

http://pic.twitter.com/91Y7S7ps
(might not be entirely work-safe depending on your workplace)

Cheers,
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Re: PESO 2013 - 087 - GDG

2013-08-27 Thread Bulent Celasun
I hope, even better years are ahead for you.

I liked the composition and the mood.
It feels more like night, though...

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2013/8/27 Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv:
 On 26/8/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

Regards the electric stove, well, it takes a while to figure it out but
once there it works okay. I'd prefer gas, but can't put in a gas stove
here, unfortunately.

 There's plenty of hot air already ;-)

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Re: PESO - Use This Door

2013-08-27 Thread Bulent Celasun
I liked the look of the blurred man in the background.

Reminds me of the air of a film noire, I guess.

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2013/8/26 Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com:
 http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo13/peso15.html

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Re: PESO 2013 - 087 - GDG

2013-08-27 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com:


Espresso on my birthday morning. Ah, nice!

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9602594016/lightbox

Thanks for looking!




I've often thought about getting one of those but I was never quite  
sure how they worked.


Excellent photo but the stove top looks far too clean :-)

Belated birthday good wishes.



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Re: PESO: BARBERTON DAISY with INSECT

2013-08-27 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Alan C c...@lantic.net:

This is an original single variety which blooms like clockwork in my  
garden every spring. Most gardeners grow the fancy double hybrids.  
The Barberton Daisy is indigenous to the mountainous area bordering  
Swaziland, about 350km south of Phalaborwa.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9606991704/lightbox/





Spectacular colour.  I like the composition with the dark background -  
works well with the colour of the bracts.



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Re: PESO IR Lift

2013-08-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Larry, without any disrespect, I don't see any merit that IR brings to
the table here except, naturally, the fact that you trained yourself
to shoot in this kind of conditions. These are nice photographs (in
terms of moments caught or phase of motion depicted) but IR does not
seem to belong here at all.

Again, I hope you're not offended by me saying this.

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 At the risk of boring folks here is some more shots with the IR rig.
 The monday dance in Santa Cruz is lit with LED
 spots, which have no IR, so they'd be nicely saturated even if I shot with the
 IR flash.  I did ask Ben to change the spots from magenta to green, so that
 I'd get better color contrast with the IR flash.


 At the end of the evening, I was playing with the fisheye, and
 think this one is rather fun:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9603407409/

 Full set at:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157635248776945/

 Comments and observations welcome.

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Re: PESO: BARBERTON DAISY with INSECT

2013-08-27 Thread Jack Davis
Dramatic blossom!  Like the dark background, Alan.

Jack



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This is an original single variety which blooms like clockwork in my garden 
every spring. Most gardeners grow the fancy double hybrids. The Barberton 
Daisy is indigenous to the mountainous area bordering Swaziland, about 350km 
south of Phalaborwa.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9606991704/lightbox/

Alan


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A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some profiles 
sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few shooting sites at 
this event due to the size of the crowd and limited access to other venues, so 
this cornfield and the parking lot next to it is my best choice. Unfortunately, 
the road and cornfield don't share the horizontal. I either render profiles 
with the road going downhill and the cornfield level or the rod level and the 
cornifield descending (the way  it actually is). Here's a shot rendered in that 
manner:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003size=lg

Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for the 
magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but when 
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Re: PESO IR Lift

2013-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
The look of the washed-out people is zombie like. Kind of fun, but I'm not sure 
the subjects would agree. I think you can find better use for IR.

Paul


On Aug 27, 2013, at 3:46 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 At the risk of boring folks here is some more shots with the IR rig.  
 The monday dance in Santa Cruz is lit with LED
 spots, which have no IR, so they'd be nicely saturated even if I shot with the
 IR flash.  I did ask Ben to change the spots from magenta to green, so that 
 I'd get better color contrast with the IR flash.
 
 
 At the end of the evening, I was playing with the fisheye, and 
 think this one is rather fun:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9603407409/
 
 Full set at:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157635248776945/
 
 Comments and observations welcome.
 
 -- 
 Larry Colen  l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc
 
 
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Re: PESO 2013 - 087 - GDG

2013-08-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I get up early ... :-)

Godfrey


On Aug 27, 2013, at 2:22 AM, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote:

 I hope, even better years are ahead for you.
 
 I liked the composition and the mood.
 It feels more like night, though...
 
 Bulent
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 http://patoloji.gen.tr
 http://celasun.wordpress.com/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/
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 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun
 
 
 2013/8/27 Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv:
 On 26/8/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Regards the electric stove, well, it takes a while to figure it out but
 once there it works okay. I'd prefer gas, but can't put in a gas stove
 here, unfortunately.
 
 There's plenty of hot air already ;-)
 
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Re: PESO 2013 - 087 - GDG

2013-08-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thank you all for the bDay wishes!

On Aug 27, 2013, at 3:11 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

 I've often thought about getting one of those but I was never quite sure how 
 they worked.
 
 Excellent photo but the stove top looks far too clean :-)

Hmm ... That's not what my beloved partner tells me. =8^/

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Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I would be tempted to try a more oblong proportion and 'grow' the corn to the 
top of the frame. 

Godfrey

On Aug 27, 2013, at 4:06 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for the 
 magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but when 
 making prints for car owners, it's a consideration.
 

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Re: GESO - 12 hours

2013-08-27 Thread Derby Chang


On 26/08/2013 12:03 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Throughly enjoyed it, Derby. I like seeing the changes in the mood of
the shots as the sun drops.

#26 (woman and taxi) is my fave. #16 conceals an entire narrative too.




Thanks Bruce, Marco and David. I think I might do more day-long shoots. 
It's an interesting way to make a series.


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Re: PESO - Welcome to Berkeley

2013-08-27 Thread Derby Chang
The tonal separation on the faces is terrific. Can see their puzzlement 
completely




On 27/08/2013 1:39 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo13/peso16.html

Last week, I found myself with an afternoon to kill in Berkeley. Although I'd 
been back to Berkeley many times since I was a student there in the tumultuous 
days of the mid-to-late 60s, I don't think I'd ever taken the time to simply 
wander at leisure around the campus and experience the time warp of memories. 
The semester hadn't started yet, but students, in some cases accompanied by 
their families, were were beginning to arrive on campus. I've just begin to go 
through the photos I took, so the next few PESOs will be from my wanderings.

Comments, as always, welcomed.

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Re: PESO Portrait of Sophie [now with dewrinkled backdrop]

2013-08-27 Thread Derby Chang


Just saw this. I like the current style of cropping the top of the head. 
Peter Hurley-esque. It makes the portrait intimate, I think. Not too 
sure about the crop on the fingers though


Gorgeous lighting, nonetheless



On 21/08/2013 2:46 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Background wrinkles rankle, as do blue nails. Both gone! Have another look ...

http://flic.kr/p/fy42fh

A straight-forward studio portrait of my niece, Sophie. Shot on
location in my sister's living room (she's a champ to put up with me
rearranging the whole thing).

I was also testing my latest money-saving invention: $10 IKEA
background support system. Ingredients: One Hugad black curtain rod,
210-385 cm; 2x Betydlig curtain rod brackets, top-slot filed out to
fit 1/4 stud on top of light stand; use with two cheap 8' light
stands.

K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 90mm/f:5, 1/160th, ISO 100;
Lr + Ps + Nik + Portraiture

Paramount short lighting with reflector fill. AF540FGZ in Westcott
Medium Apollo above-left, key; AF540FGZ in 30 umbrella softbox,
boomed above behind-right, hair; 42 silver reflector, right.

Comments welcome!




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GESO - tour of the library

2013-08-27 Thread Derby Chang


Took the afternoon off for a rather special treat. The State Library is 
putting the pics from the Street show into their collection, so we 
photographers were asked to sign some papers. Of course, we could have 
done this by email, but where is the fun in that? The bonus was the 
curator of photography taking us on a viewing of some tasty gems in the 
archives. I thought we would be there about an hour. We were there for 
almost three.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/08/library/index.html

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Re: Red Dragons 2013 - A couple more stack focused shots

2013-08-27 Thread Derby Chang



Superb as always. Anthropomorphising maybe a bit too much, your 
dragonflies look like the most elegant ballet dancers




On 26/08/2013 11:19 AM, Mark C wrote:
A few snaps of red dragonflies for this summer - they seem to be 
scarce this year:


http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/red-dragons-2013

The first two shots are stack focused. The next two are just single 
exposures.


CC always appreciated - leaving Monday morning for a work related tip 
and will be off line for a few days


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OT: Ansel Adams Exhibition

2013-08-27 Thread Brian Walters

G'day all

My wife and I are both emerging from 'The Lost Weekend' having lunched  
on what we suspect was a dubious chicken (aka a crook chook) last  
Friday.  It's at times like this that a house needs more than one  
bathroom...


However, before our date with the drumsticks of doom we went along to  
the exhibition 'Ansel Adams - Photography from the Mountains to the  
Sea', which is currently on at the Australian National Maritime Museum  
in Sydney. The link between the exhibition and the maritime theme of  
the Museum is a bit tenuous but I'm not complaining.


There are over 70 prints on display most, if not all, by Adams  
himself. They are both impressive and inspiring - certainly to my  
untutored eye. It's quite informative to compare the density and tonal  
range of many of the prints with the lack of those characters in some  
of the reproductions in the exhibition catalog.


Many of the images were photographed in Yosemite National Park, which  
we had the great privilege of visiting just a couple of months ago.


Details here:

http://www.anmm.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=2145

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Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:

I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are  
some profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into  
just a few shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd  
and limited access to other venues, so this cornfield and the  
parking lot next to it is my best choice. Unfortunately, the road  
and cornfield don't share the horizontal. I either render profiles  
with the road going downhill and the cornfield level or the rod  
level and the cornifield descending (the way  it actually is).  
Here's a shot rendered in that manner:


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003size=lg

Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting?



Not especially.  I probably wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't  
pointed it out.


The dead tree in the background is more distracting to my eye but not a lot.



Cheers

Brian

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Doesn't mayer much for the magazine because it will probably be  
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Newer Camera

2013-08-27 Thread John
I am considering a replacement of my ist DS and see that prices on used 
K-5's are starting to go down.  Are there any lens issues I need to 
consider when going to a K-5.  My lenses have been working well with my 
camera but will I start to see defects as the lenses have been used for 
a while. The two I use the most are a Pentax FA 28-35 mm and a Sigma 
70-300 mm. I also have some older manual lenses with out auto focusing 
but they don't see a lot of use. Are there any operational issues I am 
libel to run into?Or is there another choice that is not as big a 
jump as the K-5 as far as performance that would be a better choice?


Thanks for any information or suggestions.  I don't contribute very 
often but follow the group somewhat silently.


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Re: GESO - tour of the library

2013-08-27 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au:

Took the afternoon off for a rather special treat. The State Library  
is putting the pics from the Street show into their collection, so  
we photographers were asked to sign some papers. Of course, we could  
have done this by email, but where is the fun in that? The bonus was  
the curator of photography taking us on a viewing of some tasty gems  
in the archives. I thought we would be there about an hour. We were  
there for almost three.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/08/library/index.html




Looks like a great way to spend three hours.  I'd have probably tried  
to sneak out with those volumes of the Flora of New South Wales tucked  
under my trench-coat...



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Re: OT: Ansel Adams Exhibition

2013-08-27 Thread Derby Chang



Thanks for the reminder, Brian. Have been meaning to have a look. Is the 
lighting ok? The Maritime sometimes is a little dark






On 27/08/2013 9:56 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

My wife and I are both emerging from 'The Lost Weekend' having lunched 
on what we suspect was a dubious chicken (aka a crook chook) last 
Friday.  It's at times like this that a house needs more than one 
bathroom...


However, before our date with the drumsticks of doom we went along to 
the exhibition 'Ansel Adams - Photography from the Mountains to the 
Sea', which is currently on at the Australian National Maritime Museum 
in Sydney. The link between the exhibition and the maritime theme of 
the Museum is a bit tenuous but I'm not complaining.


There are over 70 prints on display most, if not all, by Adams 
himself. They are both impressive and inspiring - certainly to my 
untutored eye. It's quite informative to compare the density and tonal 
range of many of the prints with the lack of those characters in some 
of the reproductions in the exhibition catalog.


Many of the images were photographed in Yosemite National Park, which 
we had the great privilege of visiting just a couple of months ago.


Details here:

http://www.anmm.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=2145

The exhibition runs until 8 December 2013.





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September PUG - Time Running Out!

2013-08-27 Thread Brian Walters

G'day all

It's that time again...

Only a few days left to submit for the September PUG. So far 4  
submissions have been received.


Theme: Long Exposure

Nom. closing date 31 Aug.

Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

The main requirements are:
* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body  
or lens used is Pentax.
* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to  
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Re: GESO - tour of the library

2013-08-27 Thread Derby Chang


You can get a reader's ticket, and get access to the archives any time.

I didn't take a shot of it, but on the next shelf up from those were 
Frank Hurley's portfolios of original WWI prints



On 27/08/2013 10:07 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au:

Took the afternoon off for a rather special treat. The State Library 
is putting the pics from the Street show into their collection, so we 
photographers were asked to sign some papers. Of course, we could 
have done this by email, but where is the fun in that? The bonus was 
the curator of photography taking us on a viewing of some tasty gems 
in the archives. I thought we would be there about an hour. We were 
there for almost three.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/08/library/index.html




Looks like a great way to spend three hours.  I'd have probably tried 
to sneak out with those volumes of the Flora of New South Wales tucked 
under my trench-coat...






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Re: OT: Ansel Adams Exhibition

2013-08-27 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au:

Thanks for the reminder, Brian. Have been meaning to have a look. Is  
the lighting ok? The Maritime sometimes is a little dark



I think the lighting is fine.  I certainly didn't notice it as being  
too dark (or too bright for that matter).




Cheers

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On 27/08/2013 9:56 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

My wife and I are both emerging from 'The Lost Weekend' having  
lunched on what we suspect was a dubious chicken (aka a crook  
chook) last Friday.  It's at times like this that a house needs  
more than one bathroom...


However, before our date with the drumsticks of doom we went along  
to the exhibition 'Ansel Adams - Photography from the Mountains to  
the Sea', which is currently on at the Australian National Maritime  
Museum in Sydney. The link between the exhibition and the maritime  
theme of the Museum is a bit tenuous but I'm not complaining.


There are over 70 prints on display most, if not all, by Adams  
himself. They are both impressive and inspiring - certainly to my  
untutored eye. It's quite informative to compare the density and  
tonal range of many of the prints with the lack of those characters  
in some of the reproductions in the exhibition catalog.


Many of the images were photographed in Yosemite National Park,  
which we had the great privilege of visiting just a couple of  
months ago.


Details here:

http://www.anmm.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=2145

The exhibition runs until 8 December 2013.






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DxOMark tests best lenses for the K50

2013-08-27 Thread Brian Walters
I don't take a lot of notice of DxOMark tests but I found this fairly  
interesting.  They tested a range of lenses (Pentax and third party)  
on the K50, both prime and zooms.


The results for the old reliables - DA 16-45 and DA 55-300 - were  
surprisingly good in comparison with some more expensive options.


http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Publications/DxOMark-Reviews/Best-lenses-for-your-Pentax-K50-Pentax-lens-overview

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Re: Newer Camera

2013-08-27 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting John jh.gra...@verizon.net:

I am considering a replacement of my ist DS and see that prices on  
used K-5's are starting to go down.  Are there any lens issues I  
need to consider when going to a K-5.  My lenses have been working  
well with my camera but will I start to see defects as the lenses  
have been used for a while. The two I use the most are a Pentax FA  
28-35 mm and a Sigma 70-300 mm. I also have some older manual lenses  
with out auto focusing but they don't see a lot of use. Are there  
any operational issues I am libel to run into?Or is there  
another choice that is not as big a jump as the K-5 as far as  
performance that would be a better choice?




Well, you could consider a K50 without losing much to a K-5.  Having  
said that, I have a K-5, having moved up from a DS and K200D.  I  
haven't had any serious operational difficulties other than the K-5 is  
a more complex beast with a lot more available options than the other  
two.  It just takes a bit a patience and practice to come to grips  
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Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
A good suggestion, but my customers usually want 12 x 18 or 11 x 17 prints that 
will fit precut 16 x 20 mats. As seen, the image is sized for 12 x 18. And I 
don't list any non-standard crops on my price sheets. The cost of mass 
production:-).

Paul
On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:

 I would be tempted to try a more oblong proportion and 'grow' the corn to the 
 top of the frame. 
 
 Godfrey
 
 On Aug 27, 2013, at 4:06 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for the 
 magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but when 
 making prints for car owners, it's a consideration.
 
 
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Re: GESO - tour of the library

2013-08-27 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au:


You can get a reader's ticket, and get access to the archives any time.

I didn't take a shot of it, but on the next shelf up from those were  
Frank Hurley's portfolios of original WWI prints




I'd better get a bigger trench-coat...


Cheers

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On 27/08/2013 10:07 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au:

Took the afternoon off for a rather special treat. The State  
Library is putting the pics from the Street show into their  
collection, so we photographers were asked to sign some papers. Of  
course, we could have done this by email, but where is the fun in  
that? The bonus was the curator of photography taking us on a  
viewing of some tasty gems in the archives. I thought we would be  
there about an hour. We were there for almost three.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/08/library/index.html




Looks like a great way to spend three hours.  I'd have probably  
tried to sneak out with those volumes of the Flora of New South  
Wales tucked under my trench-coat...








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Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks. You're right, the tree should go. An easy clone job.

Paul
On Aug 27, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

 Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
 
 I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some 
 profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few 
 shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited access 
 to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to it is my best 
 choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't share the horizontal. I 
 either render profiles with the road going downhill and the cornfield level 
 or the rod level and the cornifield descending (the way  it actually is). 
 Here's a shot rendered in that manner:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003size=lg
 
 Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting?
 
 
 Not especially.  I probably wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed it 
 out.
 
 The dead tree in the background is more distracting to my eye but not a lot.
 
 
 
 Cheers
 
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Re: DxOMark tests best lenses for the K50

2013-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Odd that they didn't test either the DA* 50-135 or DA* 60-250.

On Aug 27, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

 I don't take a lot of notice of DxOMark tests but I found this fairly 
 interesting.  They tested a range of lenses (Pentax and third party) on the 
 K50, both prime and zooms.
 
 The results for the old reliables - DA 16-45 and DA 55-300 - were 
 surprisingly good in comparison with some more expensive options.
 
 http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Publications/DxOMark-Reviews/Best-lenses-for-your-Pentax-K50-Pentax-lens-overview
 
 http://alturl.com/p7hjv
 
 
 
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Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Stan Halpin
I have seen many corn fields with roads in front of them. I read your question 
before viewing the example and so, yes, I noticed the difference in angle, but 
it looks totally natural. Leave it as is.
Except for one very minor detail - the brightness of the right-hand rear-view 
mirror caught my attention. As I say, minor detail . . .

stan

On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:06 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some 
 profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few 
 shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited access 
 to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to it is my best 
 choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't share the horizontal. I 
 either render profiles with the road going downhill and the cornfield level 
 or the rod level and the cornifield descending (the way  it actually is). 
 Here's a shot rendered in that manner:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003size=lg
 
 Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for the 
 magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but when 
 making prints for car owners, it's a consideration.
 
 
 
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Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2013-08-27 7:06, Paul Stenquist wrote:


Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for the 
magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but when 
making prints for car owners, it's a consideration.


The mismatch doesn't bother me, that's the real world.  I prefer the 
road and car level with the corn/horizon sloped and the road/car flat.


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Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 27/8/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:



http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003size=lg

Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for
the magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but
when making prints for car owners, it's a consideration.


Yup, bugs me.


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Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread George Sinos
Hi Paul

Maybe because I've grown up in Nebraska and have seen so many
cornfields, this looks natural to me and is not a distraction.  If you
tilted the shot to make the tops of the corn horizontal that would
make the corn stalks and trees look  odd.

I think the only way to tilt the shot would be to make the angle
pretty drastic so that it would look intentional.

I think it's better the way it is now.

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 On 2013-08-27 7:06, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for
 the magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but
 when making prints for car owners, it's a consideration.


 The mismatch doesn't bother me, that's the real world.  I prefer the road
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Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Paul, if you can clone out the branches on the back - it would be a
far better picture, IMO.

I think that the way the horizontals are presented is just fine. At
least as far as this very viewer goes.

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some 
 profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few 
 shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited access 
 to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to it is my best 
 choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't share the horizontal. I 
 either render profiles with the road going downhill and the cornfield level 
 or the rod level and the cornifield descending (the way  it actually is). 
 Here's a shot rendered in that manner:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003size=lg

 Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for the 
 magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but when 
 making prints for car owners, it's a consideration.



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Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Darren Addy
Only farmers will even notice the corn and they'll complain that it
isn't the focal point. Big city magazine photo editors? Not so much.

Beauty of a Mopar!

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Paul, if you can clone out the branches on the back - it would be a
 far better picture, IMO.

 I think that the way the horizontals are presented is just fine. At
 least as far as this very viewer goes.

 On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some 
 profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few 
 shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited access 
 to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to it is my best 
 choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't share the horizontal. I 
 either render profiles with the road going downhill and the cornfield level 
 or the rod level and the cornifield descending (the way  it actually is). 
 Here's a shot rendered in that manner:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003size=lg

 Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for the 
 magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but when 
 making prints for car owners, it's a consideration.



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Re: Newer Camera

2013-08-27 Thread Darren Addy
The only danger I see in moving from an *ist DS to a K-5 is that you
might die from the ecstasy of the experience (but what a way to go!).

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 Quoting John jh.gra...@verizon.net:

 I am considering a replacement of my ist DS and see that prices on used
 K-5's are starting to go down.  Are there any lens issues I need to consider
 when going to a K-5.  My lenses have been working well with my camera but
 will I start to see defects as the lenses have been used for a while. The
 two I use the most are a Pentax FA 28-35 mm and a Sigma 70-300 mm. I also
 have some older manual lenses with out auto focusing but they don't see a
 lot of use. Are there any operational issues I am libel to run into?Or
 is there another choice that is not as big a jump as the K-5 as far as
 performance that would be a better choice?




 Well, you could consider a K50 without losing much to a K-5.  Having said
 that, I have a K-5, having moved up from a DS and K200D.  I haven't had any
 serious operational difficulties other than the K-5 is a more complex beast
 with a lot more available options than the other two.  It just takes a bit a
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Re: OT the memoir book

2013-08-27 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:05 AM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
  I think the font size is Ok at 11pt. it's the line spacing which seems to be 
 set at .89 which is
 the problem, at least on my monitor.  The lines need to be at least 
 single-line spacing to be read
 easily.

 HTH

Never noticed that. I'll see what i can do. Maybe its going from Word
for mac to Wordpress, it looks ok when i'm typing it.

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 Enjoying your memoir.  Hope you get the 1970s on wordpress, too.
 But...the 11 pt, sans serif font is really hard to read - at least for my old 
 eyes.  ;}

 -p

 On 8/26/2013 1:28 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
 I have managed to convert a rainy day into completing of 1980 for my book:
 http://slidetosat.wordpress.com/

 Not sure if I'll re add the 1970's to word press after posterous shut down.

 Rough draft still, just basically putting stuff down. I'm sure
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Re: OT the memoir book

2013-08-27 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Enjoying your memoir.  Hope you get the 1970s on wordpress, too. But...the
 11 pt, sans serif font is really hard to read - at least for my old eyes.
 ;}

I have the documents for 1970's and tried to transfer over but it didi
not work. I'll get them up soon.

Dave

 -p


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 I have managed to convert a rainy day into completing of 1980 for my book:
 http://slidetosat.wordpress.com/

 Not sure if I'll re add the 1970's to word press after posterous shut
 down.

 Rough draft still, just basically putting stuff down. I'm sure
 memories will come back at a later date.

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Re: Newer Camera

2013-08-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Hopping back in to say JOhn, haven't you been reading my K-5 love posts?

Amazingly easy transition to K-5 from istD - so should be from DS.

I shot a bunch of things with manual lenses form the 70's too.

small learning curve, relatively.  and you will love that it
tells you what you are doing on the large screen , that the
changing the ISO doesn't take you out of shooting mode, that
you can extent the ISo to 51600 down to 80, etc.

I had some problems with it at the wedding I shot, but
mainly my fault.  still much to learn to be totally comfortable in all 
situations but I can't imagine you not being pleased.


OK guys,
I'm going back in to lurk mode until I get all the wedding pics up
for the Bride and Groom to select their stuff from.

ann

On 8/27/2013 09:42, Darren Addy wrote:

The only danger I see in moving from an *ist DS to a K-5 is that you
might die from the ecstasy of the experience (but what a way to go!).

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

Quoting John jh.gra...@verizon.net:


I am considering a replacement of my ist DS and see that prices on used
K-5's are starting to go down.  Are there any lens issues I need to consider
when going to a K-5.  My lenses have been working well with my camera but
will I start to see defects as the lenses have been used for a while. The
two I use the most are a Pentax FA 28-35 mm and a Sigma 70-300 mm. I also
have some older manual lenses with out auto focusing but they don't see a
lot of use. Are there any operational issues I am libel to run into?Or
is there another choice that is not as big a jump as the K-5 as far as
performance that would be a better choice?





Well, you could consider a K50 without losing much to a K-5.  Having said
that, I have a K-5, having moved up from a DS and K200D.  I haven't had any
serious operational difficulties other than the K-5 is a more complex beast
with a lot more available options than the other two.  It just takes a bit a
patience and practice to come to grips with them.



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Re: Newer Camera

2013-08-27 Thread Charles Robinson
On Aug 27, 2013, at 07:05 , John jh.gra...@verizon.net wrote:

 I am considering a replacement of my ist DS and see that prices on used K-5's 
 are starting to go down.  Are there any lens issues I need to consider when 
 going to a K-5.  My lenses have been working well with my camera but will I 
 start to see defects as the lenses have been used for a while. The two I use 
 the most are a Pentax FA 28-35 mm and a Sigma 70-300 mm. I also have some 
 older manual lenses with out auto focusing but they don't see a lot of use. 
 Are there any operational issues I am libel to run into?Or is there 
 another choice that is not as big a jump as the K-5 as far as performance 
 that would be a better choice?
 

I think your lenses will be just fine with a K5. 

I made the slow progression from *Ist-DS to  K200D to K10D to K7 to K5, and I'm 
still using many of the lenses which were great on the DS (but I've sold a few).

Mostly what you'll notice is not anything about the lenses - what you'll notice 
is that you have a very fast, very quiet, very capable camera.  The *Ist-DS 
will seem like some child's toy after a short while.  (PS: Get a faster SD card 
when you get the new camera)

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Re: Another Blurb book...

2013-08-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 26/8/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://www.blurb.com/b/4545115-a-semester-of-photoshop

That looks great - good luck with it!

Is there any option to view a page or two inside?

Flash preview is now available at the above link. Blurb Preview shows
chapter synopsis and chapter heading pages plus a few pages from
within a couple of chapters. 

Looks really fantastic Mark.

Stef is doing this degree:

http://prospectus.lsbu.ac.uk/courses/course.php?UCASCode=W640

I'll wait til he gets cracking and see where it heads and what resources
he leans to, but will possibly order a copy before Christmas if it looks
like he'll benefit, which I'm sure he would.

Contact me first. I expect to be revising the book after using it for
actual teaching for one semester. Always takes a little while to work
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Peso Jay 11- the look, part II

2013-08-27 Thread David J Brooks
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17509736

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Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I shouldn't even be here but --
my two cents is that the degree of blurriness of the cornfield isn't 
enough - or should be totally sharp. I agree about the tree.

don't mind the corn slant.

ok back underground
a

On 8/27/2013 08:02, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:


I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some
profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few
shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited
access to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to
it is my best choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't
share the horizontal. I either render profiles with the road going
downhill and the cornfield level or the rod level and the cornifield
descending (the way  it actually is). Here's a shot rendered in that
manner:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003size=lg

Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting?



Not especially.  I probably wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed
it out.

The dead tree in the background is more distracting to my eye but not a
lot.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Another Blurb book...

2013-08-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 27/8/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

Contact me first. I expect to be revising the book after using it for
actual teaching for one semester. Always takes a little while to work
the bugs out.

Yeah, like the running ink on the title page ;-)

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Re: Newer Camera

2013-08-27 Thread Stan Halpin
Check the concurrent thread with a link to DxO tests of various lenses on the 
K-50.

I very much doubt that your choice of lens will matter much. Some are better 
than others, but in practice you aren't likely to see a difference. If you are 
obsessive, maybe there is a difference. But not likely an issue unless you also 
take care of everything else that might limit image quality, e.g.: a) calibrate 
the focus point for each lens; b) always shoot from a tripod; c) use manual 
exposure and check the histograms to verify proper exposure; d) use a remote 
trigger rather than the shutter button; e) always shoot RAW and carefully 
post-process each image for optimum color balance, sharpness, etc.

In my experience, most lenses age well, and so using older lenses just isn't an 
issue. Mechanical damage might throw lens elements out of line, the internals 
on zoom lenses in particular can get worn out, but these concerns have nothing 
to do with which camera body the lens is attached to.

If/when you do use an SDM autofocus lens rather than Pentax's earlier 
screwdriver autofocus, you will be startled and confused because the newer 
system is so much quieter and faster, you may wonder if it is even working. 
Particularly with a wide angle lens where the difference between in-focus and 
out-of-focus can be so subtle.

The K-5 will be a big leap forward in capability and as Ann said you'll want to 
spend a lot of time with the manual getting acquainted with the possibilities. 
But the K-5 is a Pentax just like your DS. It has evolved a lot, there are 
differences in the way it operates, but it should be an easy transition.

Go get one and enjoy!

stan

On Aug 27, 2013, at 8:05 AM, John wrote:

 I am considering a replacement of my ist DS and see that prices on used K-5's 
 are starting to go down.  Are there any lens issues I need to consider when 
 going to a K-5.  My lenses have been working well with my camera but will I 
 start to see defects as the lenses have been used for a while. The two I use 
 the most are a Pentax FA 28-35 mm and a Sigma 70-300 mm. I also have some 
 older manual lenses with out auto focusing but they don't see a lot of use. 
 Are there any operational issues I am libel to run into?Or is there 
 another choice that is not as big a jump as the K-5 as far as performance 
 that would be a better choice?
 
 Thanks for any information or suggestions.  I don't contribute very often but 
 follow the group somewhat silently.
 
 John G.
 


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Re: PESO 2013 - 087 - GDG

2013-08-27 Thread John

Happy birthday.

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Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
Would you consider making the car run downhill?
I know you wouldn't be photographing the driver's side, but...
The dual horizons is a bit unsettling.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some 
 profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few 
 shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited access 
 to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to it is my best 
 choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't share the horizontal. I 
 either render profiles with the road going downhill and the cornfield level 
 or the rod level and the cornifield descending (the way  it actually is). 
 Here's a shot rendered in that manner:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003size=lg

 Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for the 
 magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but when 
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Re: PESO - Preaching to the Converted

2013-08-27 Thread John

Is there any way to turn it off? If I had that and it kept trying to say
things I didn't mean, I'd see if I couldn't make it go away.

On 8/26/2013 7:31 PM, knarf wrote:

Thanks, Godfrey!

Btw the race I referred to is an alleycat. Damned predictive spelling.

;-)

Cheers,
frank

Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:

Really cool, frank! That would make great big print!

Godfrey

On Aug 26, 2013, at 4:08 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:


Spoke cards in the spokes of a messengers old beater work bike. It's

a road bike converted to a single speed city bike:


http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/08/conversion.html?m=1

The cards indicate involvement in various events, usually alleyways

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Re: Another Blurb book...

2013-08-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 27/8/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

Contact me first. I expect to be revising the book after using it for
actual teaching for one semester. Always takes a little while to work
the bugs out.

Yeah, like the running ink on the title page ;-)

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Re: PESO IR Lift

2013-08-27 Thread Larry Colen
Boris and Paul,

Thanks for the feedback.

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 01:18:53PM +0300, Boris Liberman wrote:
 Larry, without any disrespect, I don't see any merit that IR brings to

Non taken Boris.
 
 the table here except, naturally, the fact that you trained yourself
 to shoot in this kind of conditions. These are nice photographs (in
 terms of moments caught or phase of motion depicted) but IR does not
 seem to belong here at all.
 
 Again, I hope you're not offended by me saying this.

Nop,I'm not offended.  As I said, I'm still experimenting with the setup, 
learning what it will and will not do.
The cheif advantage of the setup is that it allows me to use a flash
in situations where it would otherwise not be possible.  Using flash
is severely frowned on at these dances. 

The artistic question is whether not blowing out the colored light in
the background, and being able to get a relatively sharp photo with
frozen action is worth the monotchrom zombie like look of people
photographed with the IR strobe.

I expect that once I have a good understanding of IR, it will become 
a tool at my disposal, and certainly not my primary means of shooting.

Most of my photos at this venue haven't even made it on to flickr.
Here is a quick search for 418 project in my photos, with a lot of
duplicates as people asked for proof shots, or I tried alternative
processing:
http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=99496143@N00q=418%20project

 
 On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
  At the risk of boring folks here is some more shots with the IR rig.
  The monday dance in Santa Cruz is lit with LED
  spots, which have no IR, so they'd be nicely saturated even if I shot with 
  the
  IR flash.  I did ask Ben to change the spots from magenta to green, so that
  I'd get better color contrast with the IR flash.
 
 
  At the end of the evening, I was playing with the fisheye, and
  think this one is rather fun:
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9603407409/
 
  Full set at:
  http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157635248776945/
 
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PESO Patriot

2013-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510518

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Re: OT DigiPod (possibly on-topic)

2013-08-27 Thread John

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

On 8/26/2013 10:46 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

Silicon film, big topic of discussion on the PDML, and elsewhere about
10 years ago, (pre *ist-D). Prototypes were actually developed
eventually, for Canon and Nikon analog cameras.  You can read about it
here.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/tag/silicon-film

On 8/26/2013 3:26 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

With a strong sense of déjà vu I pass along news of a guy who is
creating a cartridge for 35mm film camera bodies that outfits them
with a digital sensor and USB memory ...

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/digipod

I know there are folks here who have been waiting on this for a decade
and will be all over it like magnets on a fridge.

Bad news: it ain't FF. But as he improves it he'll be upping the
sensor size.






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Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Of course you should be here, Ann! I agree that more blur in the corn would be 
nice, but it's shot wide open, so that's as good as it gets without 
manipulation. And I usually don't like artificial blur in backgrounds, plus 
doing it right is a lot of work.. The magazine art directors will have their 
way with it anyway, probably strip it out or do something horrid to it. The car 
owners who buy prints are happy if their car is sharp, and I don't charge 
enough to warrant lots of post manipulation.

. 
On Aug 27, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 I shouldn't even be here but --
 my two cents is that the degree of blurriness of the cornfield isn't enough - 
 or should be totally sharp. I agree about the tree.
 don't mind the corn slant.
 
 ok back underground
 a
 
 On 8/27/2013 08:02, Brian Walters wrote:
 Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
 
 I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some
 profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few
 shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited
 access to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to
 it is my best choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't
 share the horizontal. I either render profiles with the road going
 downhill and the cornfield level or the rod level and the cornifield
 descending (the way  it actually is). Here's a shot rendered in that
 manner:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003size=lg
 
 Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting?
 
 
 Not especially.  I probably wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed
 it out.
 
 The dead tree in the background is more distracting to my eye but not a
 lot.
 
 
 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
 ++
 Brian Walters
 Western Sydney Australia
 http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
 
 
 Doesn't mayer much for the magazine because it will probably be
 stripped our if used large, but when making prints for car owners,
 it's a consideration.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: PESO Patriot

2013-08-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
What?  He snuck across the river last night?  Or he doesn't want to be
mistaken for a Yank?
Or maybe he doesn't want any responsibility for the mess we've made of
things here?
Or maybe he's one of us trying to pass for a Canadian?
Regards,  Bob S.

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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510518

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Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread John

On 8/27/2013 7:06 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some
profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a
few shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and
limited access to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot
next to it is my best choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield
don't share the horizontal. I either render profiles with the road
going downhill and the cornfield level or the rod level and the
cornifield descending (the way  it actually is). Here's a shot
rendered in that manner:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003size=lg

Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much
for the magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used
large, but when making prints for car owners, it's a consideration.





The car is the focus. That's what I'd make level. The background being
slightly out of focus seems to negate any problems from it being
slightly off level.

OTOH, with a little Photoshop magic you could probably get them both
level if it really bothers you.

I think it looks fine as it is.

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An OP-Tech experience

2013-08-27 Thread Eric Weir

I placed two orders with OP-Tech on August 13 for stuff I wanted to take on the 
trip to England---a couple straps, a couple lens and filter pouches, and a 
camera body wrap. They were shipped the same day to my daughter's place in 
Pittsburgh, where I was going to be visiting during the time they were likely 
to be delivered. 

The first package arrived August 19. The other has still not arrived. I've 
called OP-Tech three times. I explained that I ordered the stuff to take on the 
trip. The initial response was, Be patient. The second time I was to get a 
call back from the guy who handles online orders. I never got a call back. When 
I initiated the call this morning the response was, We are not responsible for 
the fact that the package was not delivered.

I like their products. Their customer service stinks.

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The Mean Streets of Minneapolis MN

2013-08-27 Thread Don Guthrie
I don't believe I posted these here before. I took a 2 day seminar/photo 
walk in a group with Valerie Jardin. It was very instructive and helped 
me get over my fears of photographing strangers on the street. Some of 
these were taken with K-01  some with my carry around travel other 
camera.


Comments  Critique solicited.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157634199031366/

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjGaXArL

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Re: An OP-Tech experience

2013-08-27 Thread John

If they shipped FEDEX or UPS, they should be able to give you a tracking
number so you find out where it is for yourself.

I'm not so sure if the USPS provides that kind of tracking unless the
shipper pays an extra fee for it. Most won't unless they have an option
on their order page that allows you to pay extra to get it.


On 8/27/2013 12:10 PM, Eric Weir wrote:


I placed two orders with OP-Tech on August 13 for stuff I wanted to
take on the trip to England---a couple straps, a couple lens and
filter pouches, and a camera body wrap. They were shipped the same
day to my daughter's place in Pittsburgh, where I was going to be
visiting during the time they were likely to be delivered.

The first package arrived August 19. The other has still not arrived.
I've called OP-Tech three times. I explained that I ordered the stuff
to take on the trip. The initial response was, Be patient. The
second time I was to get a call back from the guy who handles online
orders. I never got a call back. When I initiated the call this
morning the response was, We are not responsible for the fact that
the package was not delivered.

I like their products. Their customer service stinks.



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Re: OT DigiPod (possibly on-topic)

2013-08-27 Thread Darren Addy
See also: Scammers Attempt to Rip Off Successful Campaigns Using Indiegogo

http://makezine.com/2013/08/02/crowdfunding-confusion/

On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 With a strong sense of déjà vu I pass along news of a guy who is
 creating a cartridge for 35mm film camera bodies that outfits them
 with a digital sensor and USB memory ...

 http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/digipod

 I know there are folks here who have been waiting on this for a decade
 and will be all over it like magnets on a fridge.

 Bad news: it ain't FF. But as he improves it he'll be upping the sensor size.

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Re: PESO Patriot

2013-08-27 Thread Don Guthrie
I did not think a Canadian needed a t-shirt to be so identified. Would 
you not know them just by their polite manner? I mean you can always 
tell a Canadian ... even if you can't tell them much. Love the photo by 
the way.



pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 11:34:45 -0400
From: Paul Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net
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Subject: PESO Patriot
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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510518



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Re: An OP-Tech experience

2013-08-27 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 When I initiated the call this morning the response was, We are not 
 responsible for the fact that the package was not delivered.

I suspect your credit card issuer would have a different opinion.

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Re: An OP-Tech experience

2013-08-27 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 27, 2013, at 12:33 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
 I'm not so sure if the USPS provides that kind of tracking unless the
 shipper pays an extra fee for it. Most won't unless they have an option
 on their order page that allows you to pay extra to get it.

It appears unwisely, I elected standard USPS shipping, i.e., w/o tracking. If I 
had known that if there were a delay in delivery this is how they would handle 
it, I would have elected another method. 

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Re: PESO Patriot

2013-08-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 27/8/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510518

Meanwhile in Canada ;-)

Like it!

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Re: An OP-Tech experience

2013-08-27 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 27, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:

 I suspect your credit card issuer would have a different opinion.

I'll check that out. I suspect unlikely that it will get the issue resolved 
satisfactorily, i.e., in time for the trip.

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Re: An OP-Tech experience

2013-08-27 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I suspect your credit card issuer would have a different opinion.

 I'll check that out. I suspect unlikely that it will get the issue resolved 
 satisfactorily, i.e., in time for the trip.

I would expect the credit card company to refund your money
(performing a chargeback against OpTech). Getting the merchandise
another way will be your problem--can you get what you need from BH
or a local shop in time?

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Pentax Models

2013-08-27 Thread John
Oh my, I am now really confused.   There are k-5, k-50, and k-500 
models.  Plus there is now a K-5 II.  The II is probably what is causing 
the price drops I have seen on the K-5.  All appear to be an upgrade 
from my DS.  What experience have people had with these cameras.  Are 
any or all upgrades from my DS?  (Of course they are, but at what cost?) 
What features am I giving up that I would miss beyond comprehension if I 
purchased a particular camera model. Meanwhile, my beloved DS keeps 
grinding out pictures even though they are not full frame and ? 
pixel pictures.


Seriously, are there any reviews of these models  that you really 
trust.or distrust?


Thank you, everyone, for your thoughts and advice.  And I thought 
purchasing the DS was a hard decision.  I do have a couple of film 
cameras if anyone is interested.  Respooling BW film is not all that bad!


John G.

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Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread John Francis
 
 Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for the 
 magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but when 
 making prints for car owners, it's a consideration.

I rather doubt most of the car owners would even be able to tell you what is in 
the background.

I'd possibly consider losing the dead tree (as others have noted); apart from 
that, it's fine.

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Re: PESO - Preaching to the Converted

2013-08-27 Thread Bob W
On 27 Aug 2013, at 10:02, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
 The first Tour de France took place in 1903. Geared bicycles weren't allowed 
 until 1937 - the organisers thought they were for girly-boys. And they 
 clearly do, since a mere three years after their introduction came the 
 debacle of 1940.
 
 
 And in case you disagree, here's an infamous photo from the 2012 Olympics.  
 Girly-boy road sprinter on the left, hard-man track sprinter on the right.
 
 http://pic.twitter.com/91Y7S7ps
 (might not be entirely work-safe depending on your workplace)
 

Jesus Christ! I think I'll take the bus next time I want to go somewhere.

B
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Re: PESO Patriot

2013-08-27 Thread Bob W
On 27 Aug 2013, at 16:55, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

 What?  He snuck across the river last night?  Or he doesn't want to be
 mistaken for a Yank?
 Or maybe he doesn't want any responsibility for the mess we've made of
 things here?
 Or maybe he's one of us trying to pass for a Canadian?

It's because everyone thinks he's Anthony Quinn and tries to do the Zorba dance 
with him.

B

 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Paul Stenquist
 pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510518
 
 

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Re: Pentax Models

2013-08-27 Thread Darren Addy
K-5 was the flagship model (and as you suspect was replaced by the K-5
II and K-5 IIs). Those newer models don't add a lot (somewhat better
low-light AF capabilities, seems to be the concensus) but otherwise
the same sensor, etc. as was in the original K-5. The original K-5 is
probably about as loved a camera model as there can be. You can't go
wrong with it. The K-50 replaced the K-30 as the middle tier product
(12-bit system, rather than the flagship's 14-bit), and the new K-500
is Pentax getting back to an entry level model (although many people
say it offers great bang-for-the-buck, having NEARLY all of the
features of the K-50).

My recommendation would be to go for the original K-5, if you can
still find one new. It is just a wonderful camera and has a great feel
and the most weather sealing too.

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 12:29 PM, John jh.gra...@verizon.net wrote:
 Oh my, I am now really confused.   There are k-5, k-50, and k-500 models.
 Plus there is now a K-5 II.  The II is probably what is causing the price
 drops I have seen on the K-5.  All appear to be an upgrade from my DS.  What
 experience have people had with these cameras.  Are any or all upgrades from
 my DS?  (Of course they are, but at what cost?) What features am I giving up
 that I would miss beyond comprehension if I purchased a particular camera
 model. Meanwhile, my beloved DS keeps grinding out pictures even though they
 are not full frame and ? pixel pictures.

 Seriously, are there any reviews of these models  that you really
 trust.or distrust?

 Thank you, everyone, for your thoughts and advice.  And I thought purchasing
 the DS was a hard decision.  I do have a couple of film cameras if anyone is
 interested.  Respooling BW film is not all that bad!

 John G.

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Re: PESO Patriot

2013-08-27 Thread Christine Nielsen
You could submit that one to Frank's Canadians in Hats blog...!

:)
-c


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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510518

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Re: Pentax Models

2013-08-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele

John -
I've been raving about the K-5 for a month - where ya been?
also - if you go to the archives, I asked about wrinkles or things
to watch out for and got a slew of good info  - unfortunately
across several subject lines..

Here is my K-5 Geso  - about half of the photos taken with the 28mm 
Pentax manual lens , the others with the Da18-55 kit lens I had on my istd


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s

My K-5 was $589 from KEH including expedited shipping.

Now I really do have to get backto wedding photos ugh

ann




On 8/27/2013 13:29, John wrote:

Oh my, I am now really confused.   There are k-5, k-50, and k-500
models.  Plus there is now a K-5 II.  The II is probably what is causing
the price drops I have seen on the K-5.  All appear to be an upgrade
from my DS.  What experience have people had with these cameras.  Are
any or all upgrades from my DS?  (Of course they are, but at what cost?)
What features am I giving up that I would miss beyond comprehension if I
purchased a particular camera model. Meanwhile, my beloved DS keeps
grinding out pictures even though they are not full frame and ?
pixel pictures.

Seriously, are there any reviews of these models  that you really
trust.or distrust?

Thank you, everyone, for your thoughts and advice.  And I thought
purchasing the DS was a hard decision.  I do have a couple of film
cameras if anyone is interested.  Respooling BW film is not all that bad!

John G.



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Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Bruce Walker
Seems to me that the car has a very slight slope of its own. That left
downward slant kinda balances out the left upward slant of the corn
stalks ... and so it looks just fine to me, as-is.

BTW, you can stretch the corn row level using the free transform tool
in a minute or two. Here's my try ...

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/17510003-lg-str8.jpg


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some 
 profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few 
 shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited access 
 to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to it is my best 
 choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't share the horizontal. I 
 either render profiles with the road going downhill and the cornfield level 
 or the rod level and the cornifield descending (the way  it actually is). 
 Here's a shot rendered in that manner:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003size=lg

 Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for the 
 magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but when 
 making prints for car owners, it's a consideration.



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Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Alan C
Jislaaik man, give the mealies a break. They're only doing their thing - 
what do they know about horizontals? Great shot, great car. I wouldn't 
change a thing.


Alan

-Original Message- 
From: Paul Stenquist

Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 1:06 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: A Rendering Choice

I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some 
profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few 
shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited access 
to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to it is my best 
choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't share the horizontal. I 
either render profiles with the road going downhill and the cornfield level 
or the rod level and the cornifield descending (the way  it actually is). 
Here's a shot rendered in that manner:


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003size=lg

Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for the 
magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but when 
making prints for car owners, it's a consideration.




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Re: The Mean Streets of Minneapolis MN

2013-08-27 Thread Alan C
Some cool shots there. The B/W is magic. I love it. One of these days I'll 
pluck up the courage to try some street stuff.


Alan

-Original Message- 
From: Don Guthrie

Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:32 PM
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Subject: The Mean Streets of Minneapolis MN

I don't believe I posted these here before. I took a 2 day seminar/photo
walk in a group with Valerie Jardin. It was very instructive and helped
me get over my fears of photographing strangers on the street. Some of
these were taken with K-01  some with my carry around travel other
camera.

Comments  Critique solicited.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157634199031366/

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjGaXArL

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Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele

ah yeah I see what you mean about your stuff...

But when I say I _shouldn't_ be here it's because of WORK! - remember 
(that's not a real question) last month when I said if I had to go 
through 400 wedding photos I'd shoot myself? -- alas, looks like I'm 
doing that...


Terrible lighting coniditions - TOO MUCH light! ugh...
But I'm richer by a K-5 and that makes it worth while

ann


On 8/27/2013 11:48, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Of course you should be here, Ann! I agree that more blur in the corn would be 
nice, but it's shot wide open, so that's as good as it gets without 
manipulation. And I usually don't like artificial blur in backgrounds, plus 
doing it right is a lot of work.. The magazine art directors will have their 
way with it anyway, probably strip it out or do something horrid to it. The car 
owners who buy prints are happy if their car is sharp, and I don't charge 
enough to warrant lots of post manipulation.

.
On Aug 27, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:


I shouldn't even be here but --
my two cents is that the degree of blurriness of the cornfield isn't enough - 
or should be totally sharp. I agree about the tree.
don't mind the corn slant.

ok back underground
a

On 8/27/2013 08:02, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:


I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some
profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few
shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited
access to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to
it is my best choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't
share the horizontal. I either render profiles with the road going
downhill and the cornfield level or the rod level and the cornifield
descending (the way  it actually is). Here's a shot rendered in that
manner:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003size=lg

Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting?



Not especially.  I probably wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed
it out.

The dead tree in the background is more distracting to my eye but not a
lot.



Cheers

Brian

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Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/



Doesn't mayer much for the magazine because it will probably be
stripped our if used large, but when making prints for car owners,
it's a consideration.








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Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Bruce Walker
Ann! Please! Put the gun down and back away from the keyboard.

;-)


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 ah yeah I see what you mean about your stuff...

 But when I say I _shouldn't_ be here it's because of WORK! - remember
 (that's not a real question) last month when I said if I had to go through
 400 wedding photos I'd shoot myself? -- alas, looks like I'm doing that...

 Terrible lighting coniditions - TOO MUCH light! ugh...
 But I'm richer by a K-5 and that makes it worth while

 ann



 On 8/27/2013 11:48, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Of course you should be here, Ann! I agree that more blur in the corn
 would be nice, but it's shot wide open, so that's as good as it gets without
 manipulation. And I usually don't like artificial blur in backgrounds, plus
 doing it right is a lot of work.. The magazine art directors will have their
 way with it anyway, probably strip it out or do something horrid to it. The
 car owners who buy prints are happy if their car is sharp, and I don't
 charge enough to warrant lots of post manipulation.

 .
 On Aug 27, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 I shouldn't even be here but --
 my two cents is that the degree of blurriness of the cornfield isn't
 enough - or should be totally sharp. I agree about the tree.
 don't mind the corn slant.

 ok back underground
 a

 On 8/27/2013 08:02, Brian Walters wrote:

 Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:

 I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some
 profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few
 shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited
 access to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to
 it is my best choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't
 share the horizontal. I either render profiles with the road going
 downhill and the cornfield level or the rod level and the cornifield
 descending (the way  it actually is). Here's a shot rendered in that
 manner:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003size=lg

 Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting?



 Not especially.  I probably wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed
 it out.

 The dead tree in the background is more distracting to my eye but not a
 lot.



 Cheers

 Brian

 ++
 Brian Walters
 Western Sydney Australia
 http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/


 Doesn't mayer much for the magazine because it will probably be
 stripped our if used large, but when making prints for car owners,
 it's a consideration.






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Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Aug 27, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Seems to me that the car has a very slight slope of its own. That left
 downward slant kinda balances out the left upward slant of the corn
 stalks ... and so it looks just fine to me, as-is.
 
 BTW, you can stretch the corn row level using the free transform tool
 in a minute or two. Here's my try ...
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/17510003-lg-str8.jpg

Nice, but how did you avoid stretching the car as well? I've used free 
transform quite a bit, but it distorts  the entire image area.

Paul
 
 
 On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some 
 profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few 
 shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited access 
 to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to it is my best 
 choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't share the horizontal. I 
 either render profiles with the road going downhill and the cornfield level 
 or the rod level and the cornifield descending (the way  it actually is). 
 Here's a shot rendered in that manner:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003size=lg
 
 Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for the 
 magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but when 
 making prints for car owners, it's a consideration.
 
 
 
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Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have to go through 600 Mopar Nats photos, so I understand your pain. So far, 
I've rendered thee of the fourteen cars I shot.
Paul
On Aug 27, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 ah yeah I see what you mean about your stuff...
 
 But when I say I _shouldn't_ be here it's because of WORK! - remember (that's 
 not a real question) last month when I said if I had to go through 400 
 wedding photos I'd shoot myself? -- alas, looks like I'm doing that...
 
 Terrible lighting coniditions - TOO MUCH light! ugh...
 But I'm richer by a K-5 and that makes it worth while
 
 ann
 
 
 On 8/27/2013 11:48, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Of course you should be here, Ann! I agree that more blur in the corn would 
 be nice, but it's shot wide open, so that's as good as it gets without 
 manipulation. And I usually don't like artificial blur in backgrounds, plus 
 doing it right is a lot of work.. The magazine art directors will have their 
 way with it anyway, probably strip it out or do something horrid to it. The 
 car owners who buy prints are happy if their car is sharp, and I don't 
 charge enough to warrant lots of post manipulation.
 
 .
 On Aug 27, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 
 I shouldn't even be here but --
 my two cents is that the degree of blurriness of the cornfield isn't enough 
 - or should be totally sharp. I agree about the tree.
 don't mind the corn slant.
 
 ok back underground
 a
 
 On 8/27/2013 08:02, Brian Walters wrote:
 Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
 
 I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some
 profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few
 shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited
 access to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to
 it is my best choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't
 share the horizontal. I either render profiles with the road going
 downhill and the cornfield level or the rod level and the cornifield
 descending (the way  it actually is). Here's a shot rendered in that
 manner:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003size=lg
 
 Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting?
 
 
 Not especially.  I probably wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed
 it out.
 
 The dead tree in the background is more distracting to my eye but not a
 lot.
 
 
 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
 ++
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 Western Sydney Australia
 http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
 
 
 Doesn't mayer much for the magazine because it will probably be
 stripped our if used large, but when making prints for car owners,
 it's a consideration.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Pentax Models

2013-08-27 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013, John wrote:

 Oh my, I am now really confused.   There are k-5, k-50, and k-500
 models.  Plus there is now a K-5 II.  The II is probably what is
 causing the price drops I have seen on the K-5.  All appear to be an
 upgrade from my DS.  What experience have people had with these
 cameras.  Are any or all upgrades from my DS?  (Of course they are,
 but at what cost?) What features am I giving up that I would miss
 beyond comprehension if I purchased a particular camera model.
 Meanwhile, my beloved DS keeps grinding out pictures even though
 they are not full frame and ? pixel pictures.

The K-50/K-500 are just released with zero track record.  However, their
innards are similar enough to the K-5/K-30 that there's no reason to
avoid them.  I recommend against the K-30 because I found it
uncomfortable, a used K-5 is better.  Get the K-5 II/IIs if you do lots
of low-light photography (better AF).  The main drawback of the K-500 is
lack of weather-sealing, plus AFAICT you must get it with kit lens, so
that would probably be extra money for no purpose in your case.
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Re: PESO Portrait of Sophie [now with dewrinkled backdrop]

2013-08-27 Thread Bruce Walker
Hey, thanks Derby! Intimate is what I'm going for. I wasn't setup for
the full high-key Hurley look though; next time. I do love Hurley's
work.

I agree with complaints about the fingers. The pose was dictating the
framing but I was set on tight, so I compromised. When I retry that I
will re-pose or re-frame rather than crop fingers. I have some other,
looser, shots I will work on but none with that expression I so liked.


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Just saw this. I like the current style of cropping the top of the head.
 Peter Hurley-esque. It makes the portrait intimate, I think. Not too sure
 about the crop on the fingers though

 Gorgeous lighting, nonetheless




 On 21/08/2013 2:46 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Background wrinkles rankle, as do blue nails. Both gone! Have another look
 ...

 http://flic.kr/p/fy42fh

 A straight-forward studio portrait of my niece, Sophie. Shot on
 location in my sister's living room (she's a champ to put up with me
 rearranging the whole thing).

 I was also testing my latest money-saving invention: $10 IKEA
 background support system. Ingredients: One Hugad black curtain rod,
 210-385 cm; 2x Betydlig curtain rod brackets, top-slot filed out to
 fit 1/4 stud on top of light stand; use with two cheap 8' light
 stands.

 K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 90mm/f:5, 1/160th, ISO 100;
 Lr + Ps + Nik + Portraiture

 Paramount short lighting with reflector fill. AF540FGZ in Westcott
 Medium Apollo above-left, key; AF540FGZ in 30 umbrella softbox,
 boomed above behind-right, hair; 42 silver reflector, right.

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Pictures

2013-08-27 Thread John

Ann,

So I am not the only one who mixes it up with the kitties.  I am so 
jealous of your rooftop and I loved the umbrellas.  They were playing 
just for you I am sure.  That is the umbrellascats will play just 
because!


You are making it hard to say no...There are several k-5's out there.  I 
am going to think for a bit.  Your use of the older lenses is 
encouraging.  Unfortunately most of my old lenses are screw mount (Is 
there an adapter for screw mount?) or my dad's Leica glass which is 
really nice and really worth the effort to reload 35 mm cans with BW 
and then scan the negatives.   Yes, I am 70 and thought my Retina (still 
works) was neat.  That is an  even longer discussion.


Cheers and I hope I have not slowed down your work too badly

John G.

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Re: A Rendering Choice

2013-08-27 Thread Bruce Walker
Secret retouching technique! :-)

1. marquee from the top of the image down to just above the car's hood
and trunk (ie including as much corn as possible, but excluding as
much car as possible).
2. switch to lasso: hold Option and lasso around the roof of the car.
This will exclude the roof from the selection.
3. Cmd-J to clone selection (corn and background) to new layer; name it warp
4. Cmd-T to show grab handles.
5. right-click for menu: choose Distort.
6. tug upward on upper-right handle until corn is level (I turned on
View Grid to help).

There's now a horizontal mismatch between the corn stalks on both layers ...

7. add a layer mask to warp.
8. select a large soft Brush, 100% opacity and flow; choose Black colour.
9. reduce the opacity of the original car layer so the warp layer's
edge stands out
10. making sure mask is selected, paint along the bottom edge of the warp
 layer. The brush center should just follow the line. This will
create a smooth
 gradient that will blend the two layers right at the interface point.

Ta-da! Merge layers and or save-to-web, etc.


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Aug 27, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Seems to me that the car has a very slight slope of its own. That left
 downward slant kinda balances out the left upward slant of the corn
 stalks ... and so it looks just fine to me, as-is.

 BTW, you can stretch the corn row level using the free transform tool
 in a minute or two. Here's my try ...

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/17510003-lg-str8.jpg

 Nice, but how did you avoid stretching the car as well? I've used free 
 transform quite a bit, but it distorts  the entire image area.

 Paul


 On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some 
 profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few 
 shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited 
 access to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to it is 
 my best choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't share the 
 horizontal. I either render profiles with the road going downhill and the 
 cornfield level or the rod level and the cornifield descending (the way  it 
 actually is). Here's a shot rendered in that manner:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003size=lg

 Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for the 
 magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but when 
 making prints for car owners, it's a consideration.



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Re: Pictures

2013-08-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 8/27/2013 14:57, John wrote:

Ann,

So I am not the only one who mixes it up with the kitties.  I am so
jealous of your rooftop and I loved the umbrellas.  They were playing
just for you I am sure.  That is the umbrellascats will play just
because!

You are making it hard to say no...There are several k-5's out there.  I
am going to think for a bit.  Your use of the older lenses is
encouraging.  Unfortunately most of my old lenses are screw mount (Is
there an adapter for screw mount?) or my dad's Leica glass which is
really nice and really worth the effort to reload 35 mm cans with BW
and then scan the negatives.   Yes, I am 70 and thought my Retina (still
works) was neat.  That is an  even longer discussion.

Cheers and I hope I have not slowed down your work too badly

John G.


Not too um gravely :-)
Happy shopping


why did I come here to look - oy - back to grindstone

ann

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Re: PESO Portrait of Sophie [now with dewrinkled backdrop]

2013-08-27 Thread Darren Addy
Nice example of butterfly lighting. Love the big catch-lights in her eyes.

Nits to pick?
Although there isn't really a low shoulder, this strikes me as a
masculine head tilt. (At least I would say it is not a feminine one).

Hands are difficult. Normally if you break the wrist the
hands/fingers will assume a more feminine look. To achieve that, for
naturalness sake, that would probably mean that her top hand would be
on her bicep, not her forearm.

Couple of links for hands:
http://www.joeedelman.com/blog/modeling/how-to-handle-hands/
http://www.joeedelman.com/blog/modeling/how-to-handle-hands-part-2/1668/

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey, thanks Derby! Intimate is what I'm going for. I wasn't setup for
 the full high-key Hurley look though; next time. I do love Hurley's
 work.

 I agree with complaints about the fingers. The pose was dictating the
 framing but I was set on tight, so I compromised. When I retry that I
 will re-pose or re-frame rather than crop fingers. I have some other,
 looser, shots I will work on but none with that expression I so liked.


 On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Just saw this. I like the current style of cropping the top of the head.
 Peter Hurley-esque. It makes the portrait intimate, I think. Not too sure
 about the crop on the fingers though

 Gorgeous lighting, nonetheless




 On 21/08/2013 2:46 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Background wrinkles rankle, as do blue nails. Both gone! Have another look
 ...

 http://flic.kr/p/fy42fh

 A straight-forward studio portrait of my niece, Sophie. Shot on
 location in my sister's living room (she's a champ to put up with me
 rearranging the whole thing).

 I was also testing my latest money-saving invention: $10 IKEA
 background support system. Ingredients: One Hugad black curtain rod,
 210-385 cm; 2x Betydlig curtain rod brackets, top-slot filed out to
 fit 1/4 stud on top of light stand; use with two cheap 8' light
 stands.

 K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 90mm/f:5, 1/160th, ISO 100;
 Lr + Ps + Nik + Portraiture

 Paramount short lighting with reflector fill. AF540FGZ in Westcott
 Medium Apollo above-left, key; AF540FGZ in 30 umbrella softbox,
 boomed above behind-right, hair; 42 silver reflector, right.

 Comments welcome!



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Re: Pentax Models

2013-08-27 Thread John


Thank you for filling in some of the gaps.  Of course the K-5 II is very 
attractive but it doubles the investment.  In spite of what my kids 
think, I do attempt to budget.  The K-5 (original) is climbing to the 
top of the heap.  Not that I am unhappy with my DS.  It has done a very 
nice job for a number of years and I have been happy with what I can get 
out of it.  So now  I am contemplating the world and how I relate to 
it.  We shall see. There is certainly a great amount of enthusiasm for 
the K-5.


Cheers,

John G.

On 8/27/2013 2:40 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013, John wrote:

Oh my, I am now really confused.   There are k-5, k-50, and k-500
models.  Plus there is now a K-5 II.  The II is probably what is
causing the price drops I have seen on the K-5.  All appear to be an
upgrade from my DS.  What experience have people had with these
cameras.  Are any or all upgrades from my DS?  (Of course they are,
but at what cost?) What features am I giving up that I would miss
beyond comprehension if I purchased a particular camera model.
Meanwhile, my beloved DS keeps grinding out pictures even though
they are not full frame and ? pixel pictures.

The K-50/K-500 are just released with zero track record.  However, their
innards are similar enough to the K-5/K-30 that there's no reason to
avoid them.  I recommend against the K-30 because I found it
uncomfortable, a used K-5 is better.  Get the K-5 II/IIs if you do lots
of low-light photography (better AF).  The main drawback of the K-500 is
lack of weather-sealing, plus AFAICT you must get it with kit lens, so
that would probably be extra money for no purpose in your case.



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Re: The Mean Streets of Minneapolis MN

2013-08-27 Thread Charles Robinson
On Aug 27, 2013, at 11:32 , Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't believe I posted these here before. I took a 2 day seminar/photo walk 
 in a group with Valerie Jardin. It was very instructive and helped me get 
 over my fears of photographing strangers on the street. Some of these were 
 taken with K-01  some with my carry around travel other camera.
 
 Comments  Critique solicited.
 
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157634199031366/
 

Interesting to see my city from someone else's perspective (do you live in 
Minneapolis?).  Seems really really contrasty and a bit dark (is Minneapolis 
really so gloomy?), but there are some nice shots.

I like the little boy by the mirrors over at The Guthrie..

 -Charles

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