date:20170206


Thanks Paul.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" 

Subject: Re: PESO - 'American Goldfinch'



Very nice.

Paul via phone


On Feb 6, 2017, at 3:51 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

Captured in my backyard with a K-3 and 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, 1/640 @ f8.0, 
3200 ISO


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Nice collection. Good to see some of the sports observed around the world.
My favorite is Mark Robert's "Eric Bostrom at Mid Ohio".

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- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Walters" 

Subject: February PUG is up!



G'day all,

THe standout for me this month is Bong's "Deep Darkness" - moody and
intimidating - with Mark's "Eric Bostrom at Mid-Ohio" as next favourite.

I like all the others equally - not a top sport missed as far as I can
tell.

As usual you'll find the gallery here:

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Re: PESO - 'American Goldfinch'


Thanks for the comment Gonz

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- Original Message - 
From: "Gonz" 

Subject: Re: PESO - 'American Goldfinch'



Excellent!

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
Captured in my backyard with a K-3 and 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, 1/640 @ f8.0, 
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ISO

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Re: Masham

2017-02-06 Thread John Francis

On Mon, Feb 06, 2017 at 10:26:33PM +, Bob W-PDML wrote:
> Some photos from a long weekend in Yorkshire:
> 
> http://www.web-options.com/Masham/
> 
> Enjoy (I hope).
> 
> B

You could make a pretty impressive gallery of all your door & window shots ...

I really like #26, which rather surprises me - I'm not a big fan of either
B&W or fogginess.

I'm a bit surprised, though, to see a couple of galleries from Masham with
no reference to Theakston and/or Black Bull!

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Re: Masham

2017-02-06 Thread Philip Northeast

Thoroughly enjoyable, and some of the black and whites were absoluteley 
stunning.


Philip Northeast

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On 7/02/2017 9:26 am, Bob W-PDML wrote:

Some photos from a long weekend in Yorkshire:

http://www.web-options.com/Masham/

Enjoy (I hope).

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Re: Peso: The wicked wheelie

The chair was pumped up too high...  and the back was loose.. it wasn't 
nicely balanced, like my remaining wheelies, but I also shouldnt ahve 
tried to stop myself from falling.. that was stupid..  I'm so much 
better now.


Dusting? feh.  a bit in the winter, hardly needed in the summer with all 
the AC on...  Since I don't smoke , and no one is allowed to in the 
building, that helps too.


Sounds like you looked at more than the kitchen...  a couple more chairs 
got replaced ...
I love my rent controlled apartment in the landmark protected 
building... so lucky am I.


ann

On 2/6/2017 10:44 PM, Alan C wrote:
Wow, amazing place you have there but how much time do you spend 
dusting? I see you specialize in wheelies. Can't see that it was 
really the chair's fault, just an unfortunate turn of events. Hope 
you'll soon be 100%.


Alan C

-Original Message- From: ann sanfedele
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 2:40 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Peso: The wicked wheelie

for the curious..

the black chair is the one that threw me..despite having 5 legs. -
Photos taken last SEpt, when I had just reorganized... the red chair is
also gone


https://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Home/n-2tSNGb/i-fH4W42L/L

I've switched from Naproxen to Excedrin during the day... I need that
caffeine...  The naproxen WAS making me drowsy

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Re: PESO - 'American Goldfinch'

2017-02-06 Thread Jack Davis


Didn't know that, Ann.
Glad I asked. Thanks!

J

- Original Message -
From: "ann sanfedele" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 7:25:13 PM
Subject: Re: PESO - 'American Goldfinch'

Jack - Natures Design..
It is winter in MIchigan... Goldfinches drab down

ann

On 2/6/2017 6:40 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
> Are the very pale soft tones by design, Ken?
> I would have thought they would be more vivid.
> Especially the yellow/gold.
> Good detail.
>
> J
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ken Waller" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 12:51:19 PM
> Subject: PESO - 'American Goldfinch'
>
> Captured in my backyard with a K-3 and 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, 1/640 @ f8.0, 3200
> ISO
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18337136
>
> Comments appreciated
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>
>


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Re: February PUG is up!

I love that it is so varied!  after I submitted mine I remembered I had 
technically better stuff of a couple of other sports and from that event 
too -  Actually have attended a rodeo, certainly horse shows way way 
back (but no good photos).


Bong's is stunning work (big surprise there) but it is posed. For this 
theme  Phillip's intense Australian Football shot made the deepest 
impression.. and
Larry Wilkin's Beautiful Game came in next ..  but liked the whole 
gallery a lot, even though I'm not a team sports fan really.


ann

On 2/6/2017 3:59 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all,

THe standout for me this month is Bong's "Deep Darkness" - moody and
intimidating - with Mark's "Eric Bostrom at Mid-Ohio" as next favourite.

I like all the others equally - not a top sport missed as far as I can
tell.

As usual you'll find the gallery here:

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(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
there).

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Re: Peso: The wicked wheelie

Wow, amazing place you have there but how much time do you spend dusting? I 
see you specialize in wheelies. Can't see that it was really the chair's 
fault, just an unfortunate turn of events. Hope you'll soon be 100%.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 2:40 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Peso: The wicked wheelie

for the curious..

the black chair is the one that threw me..despite having 5 legs. -
Photos taken last SEpt, when I had just reorganized... the red chair is
also gone


https://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Home/n-2tSNGb/i-fH4W42L/L

I've switched from Naproxen to Excedrin during the day... I need that
caffeine...  The naproxen WAS making me drowsy

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Re: PESO - 'American Goldfinch'


Nice. It must be tough being a bird in winter.

Alan C

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Captured in my backyard with a K-3 and 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, 1/640 @ f8.0, 3200
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Re: Masham

Thanks for that, Bob. If all goes according to plan we will be visiting your 
shores in Sept. Our daughter in Farnham & friends in Harrogate will be high 
on the agenda.


Alan C

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Some photos from a long weekend in Yorkshire:

http://www.web-options.com/Masham/

Enjoy (I hope).

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Re: February PUG is up!

Thanks, Brian. I'm sorry I didn't submit. I can identify with a lot of those 
scenes, especially Ann's. If I had to pick a Fav. it would be yours. Aussie 
Football - there are rules?


Alan C

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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 10:59 PM
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Subject: February PUG is up!

G'day all,

THe standout for me this month is Bong's "Deep Darkness" - moody and
intimidating - with Mark's "Eric Bostrom at Mid-Ohio" as next favourite.

I like all the others equally - not a top sport missed as far as I can
tell.

As usual you'll find the gallery here:

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(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
there).

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gallery, let me know.

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Re: Beady Eyes

Ja, ja. Well at least I still have most of my hair (& it isn't even grey 
yet). My left ear is slightly lower than the right but I'm uncertain which 
is correctly mounted. I'll concede that the Buffalo is perhaps bemused 
rather than annoyed!


Alan C

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Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 3:57 AM
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On February 6, 2017 9:18:36 AM PST, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

He's annoyed because he's got a crap hairstyle and his ears are in the
wrong place.


The buffalo or Alan?




On 6 Feb 2017, at 10:09, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Alan , you were in you car yes? I don't see annoyance in the bull's

expression..  looks like a wise old patriarch...

Bison not aggressive to humans on foot  - don't bother us and we wont

bother you... but , of course, all breeding bulls such as bison, deer,
elk, moose  become aggresive to us in the rutting season if we were to
get too close.


ann




On 2/6/2017 12:50 AM, Alan C wrote:

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Sent: Monday, 6 February 2017 3:53 AM
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Subject: PESO: Beady Eyes

A young Buffalo bull showing his annoyance at our presence. One of a

herd of at least 200. Taken not

far from home near Sable Dam.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/32348777270/

K7 with the HD 55-300 @ ~100mm.




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Re: PESO - 'American Goldfinch'


Jack - Natures Design..
It is winter in MIchigan... Goldfinches drab down

ann

On 2/6/2017 6:40 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Are the very pale soft tones by design, Ken?
I would have thought they would be more vivid.
Especially the yellow/gold.
Good detail.

J

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Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 12:51:19 PM
Subject: PESO - 'American Goldfinch'

Captured in my backyard with a K-3 and 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, 1/640 @ f8.0, 3200
ISO

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Re: Salon de coiffure pour hommes

2017-02-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

10009 is a very fine portrait.

It looks like Arthur could use a hair cut himself!

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On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

> Found this chap while pottering about this weekend. He's been cutting hair
> here for over 70 years, and is deaf as a post, but full of stories. Since
> I'm also pretty deaf the conversation mostly consisted of us shouting
> "Pardon? I can't hear you! What?" At each other.
>
> Between barely stifled giggles, my friend asked him if he'd cut my hair.
> He said "He hasn't got any!"
>
> Anyway, I had my hair, such as it is, cut for the second time in as many
> weeks; it cost £3.50. He refused to look at the camera for portraits.
>
> http://www.web-options.com/Arthur/
>
> B
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Re: Beady Eyes

2017-02-06 Thread Larry Colen



On February 6, 2017 9:18:36 AM PST, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>He's annoyed because he's got a crap hairstyle and his ears are in the
>wrong place.

The buffalo or Alan?

>
>> On 6 Feb 2017, at 10:09, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> Alan , you were in you car yes? I don't see annoyance in the bull's
>expression..  looks like a wise old patriarch...
>> Bison not aggressive to humans on foot  - don't bother us and we wont
>bother you... but , of course, all breeding bulls such as bison, deer,
>elk, moose  become aggresive to us in the rutting season if we were to
>get too close.
>> 
>> ann
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2/6/2017 12:50 AM, Alan C wrote:
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Alan C
>>> Sent: Monday, 6 February 2017 3:53 AM
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>> Subject: PESO: Beady Eyes
>>> 
>>> A young Buffalo bull showing his annoyance at our presence. One of a
>herd of at least 200. Taken not
>>> far from home near Sable Dam.
>>> 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/32348777270/
>>> 
>>> K7 with the HD 55-300 @ ~100mm.
>>> 
>>> 

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Re: Masham

Very nice Bob. thanks for sharing.


-Original Message-
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>
>Some photos from a long weekend in Yorkshire:
>
>http://www.web-options.com/Masham/
>
>Enjoy (I hope).
>
>B


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Peso: The wicked wheelie


for the curious..

the black chair is the one that threw me..despite having 5 legs. - 
Photos taken last SEpt, when I had just reorganized... the red chair is 
also gone



https://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Home/n-2tSNGb/i-fH4W42L/L

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caffeine...  The naproxen WAS making me drowsy


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Re: Masham

wow - these are wonderful, Bob!   Some more so than others, but hey... a 
remarkable batch of solid keepers from a weekend..


of the color shots I like 1,2 (real coffee .. , spoiled by "smoothies" 
being next on the list)  and 10 the very best...


of the Bw's with people and critters  8,9,19
and the last five shots..

Did you shot the B&W shots in BW?  I'd be curious to see the first of 
the two foggy river shots in color...


How nice it would be to get across the pond and visit that town.. sigh..

ann


On 2/6/2017 5:26 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

Some photos from a long weekend in Yorkshire:

http://www.web-options.com/Masham/

Enjoy (I hope).

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Re: PESO - 'American Goldfinch'

2017-02-06 Thread Jack Davis


Are the very pale soft tones by design, Ken? 
I would have thought they would be more vivid. 
Especially the yellow/gold.
Good detail.

J 

- Original Message -
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To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 12:51:19 PM
Subject: PESO - 'American Goldfinch'

Captured in my backyard with a K-3 and 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, 1/640 @ f8.0, 3200 
ISO

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Re: Salon de coiffure pour hommes


How positively Dickensonian... enjoyed the whole GESO
ann

On 2/6/2017 5:34 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

Found this chap while pottering about this weekend. He's been cutting hair here for over 
70 years, and is deaf as a post, but full of stories. Since I'm also pretty deaf the 
conversation mostly consisted of us shouting "Pardon? I can't hear you! What?" 
At each other.

Between barely stifled giggles, my friend asked him if he'd cut my hair. He said "He 
hasn't got any!"

Anyway, I had my hair, such as it is, cut for the second time in as many weeks; 
it cost £3.50. He refused to look at the camera for portraits.

http://www.web-options.com/Arthur/

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Re: PESO - 'American Goldfinch'


Caption : "You lookin at me?"

Lovely shot, Ken

ann

On 2/6/2017 3:51 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Captured in my backyard with a K-3 and 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, 1/640 @ 
f8.0, 3200 ISO


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18337136

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Re: Tips for photographing Australia/New Zealand?

2017-02-06 Thread Brian Walters

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017, at 09:33 AM, Philip Northeast wrote:
> I would skip the north island of Australia as well


Oh - so that's the way it's going to be, is it?

;-)>




Cheers

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> 
> On 7/02/2017 1:54 am, Gonz wrote:
> > Thanks Bob, those are great pics!  I see you visited both NZ islands.
> > Was the north island worth it?  I'm thinking of skipping it, logistics
> > and all.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 7:04 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> >> Gonz,
> >> Don't miss a tour from Rob.
> >> It was the highlight of our time in Sidney!
> >> Regards,  Bob S.
> >>
> >> Below are some pictures from our 2006 trip to NZ & OZ.
> >> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipPjmdZIco-Aqp1HhXk9znLKvHaVqLIbkQcVRyeR
> >> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipOsFDtJlhmdHzXxvmclx4Gtt6b0rOgR4xIz5paW
> >> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipPULX2eAlElFwMZa34DTgHdELJmHpSMHcVnvC9L
> >> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipO9IAAECiubn0nggrn79sN7Oy5tcwnvUKpogku3
> >> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipMkQEzZ1L8F4_0Mw3iz6mqhCZNXKgjPPfLPG9PY
> >> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipNWYnmLgR7w3Vrk5Jy9mFXf5f8Qwi3gHnuVBXBZ
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Gonz  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks Rob!  I know I should be in Sydney at the end of the year, I'm
> >>> estimating Dec 27 right now, staying through at least Jan 1, probably
> >>> later, as return flights are going to be scarce.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Rob Studdert 
> >>> wrote:
>  Gonz,
> 
>  Let me know when your trip firms, glad to give you a tour and some
>  tips in Sydney and surrounds when you're down-under.
> 
>  Cheers,
> 
> 
>  On 21 January 2017 at 08:17, David Mann  wrote:
> > Regarding the Sydney sights you can buy a multi-pass which will get you
> >>> a very good discount for multiple attractions.  You can buy the pass at 
> >>> any
> >>> one of the attractions.  You have to visit that one first, then go through
> >>> the others at your leisure.  So pick which one you want to do first and 
> >>> buy
> >>> the pass through their website.
> >
> > https://www.sydneyaquarium.com.au/tickets/attractions-passes/
> >
> > FWIW I think they're all worth doing if you have the time, but don't
> >>> expect to get good photos from the tower.
> >
> > Igor mentioned the Queen Victoria Building, I'd definitely second
> >>> that.  You can get tours in the Opera House.  And he's right about the
> >>> bridge-climb tours.  Horribly expensive and you're not allowed to carry
> >>> anything in case it drops.  Walk the path across and the views will be
> >>> almost as good, for free.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Dave
> >
> >> On Jan 21, 2017, at 9:33 AM, Gonz  wrote:
> >>
> >> Fantastic Igor.  I'll definitely look into many of those places.  Our
> >> time is short in SYD, most of the time we will be in NZ, but we'll
> >> make the best of it.  Probably stay downtown so we can go see the main
> >> sights easily.
> >
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Re: Masham

Thanks. Well, yes, the idea was to have a cycling weekend in the Dales. This is 
Tour de France country. I used to live in the area, and still have friends and 
family in them there parts. We are a Yorkshire family. There are plenty of 
people biking up there. Yorkshire people are made from millstone grit.

But last week I caught a cold, which has still not fully gone, so I decided to 
do some walking instead. Spent one day at Hackfall Wood, 
http://www.hackfall.org.uk/, where I got lost and had to walk an extra 4-5 
miles to re-find myself, and another day just pottering about, up to the 
Swinton Estate, which is where the Druid's Temple (fake Stonehenge) is - I've 
posted pictures from there before. It's a lovely area, one of the wealthiest in 
the country.

B

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Lots of great shots in there. What led you Masham? Surely February
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Re: Tips for photographing Australia/New Zealand?

Lol.  So stick with Tasmania then? !!

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Philip Northeast
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> I would skip the north island of Australia as well
>
> Philip Northeast
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> www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au
>
>
> On 7/02/2017 1:54 am, Gonz wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Bob, those are great pics!  I see you visited both NZ islands.
>> Was the north island worth it?  I'm thinking of skipping it, logistics
>> and all.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 7:04 PM, Bob Sullivan 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Gonz,
>>> Don't miss a tour from Rob.
>>> It was the highlight of our time in Sidney!
>>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>>
>>> Below are some pictures from our 2006 trip to NZ & OZ.
>>>
>>> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipPjmdZIco-Aqp1HhXk9znLKvHaVqLIbkQcVRyeR
>>>
>>> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipOsFDtJlhmdHzXxvmclx4Gtt6b0rOgR4xIz5paW
>>>
>>> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipPULX2eAlElFwMZa34DTgHdELJmHpSMHcVnvC9L
>>>
>>> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipO9IAAECiubn0nggrn79sN7Oy5tcwnvUKpogku3
>>>
>>> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipMkQEzZ1L8F4_0Mw3iz6mqhCZNXKgjPPfLPG9PY
>>>
>>> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipNWYnmLgR7w3Vrk5Jy9mFXf5f8Qwi3gHnuVBXBZ
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Gonz  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Rob!  I know I should be in Sydney at the end of the year, I'm
 estimating Dec 27 right now, staying through at least Jan 1, probably
 later, as return flights are going to be scarce.


 On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Rob Studdert 
 wrote:
>
> Gonz,
>
> Let me know when your trip firms, glad to give you a tour and some
> tips in Sydney and surrounds when you're down-under.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> On 21 January 2017 at 08:17, David Mann  wrote:
>>
>> Regarding the Sydney sights you can buy a multi-pass which will get
>> you

 a very good discount for multiple attractions.  You can buy the pass at
 any
 one of the attractions.  You have to visit that one first, then go
 through
 the others at your leisure.  So pick which one you want to do first and
 buy
 the pass through their website.
>>
>>
>> https://www.sydneyaquarium.com.au/tickets/attractions-passes/
>>
>> FWIW I think they're all worth doing if you have the time, but don't

 expect to get good photos from the tower.
>>
>>
>> Igor mentioned the Queen Victoria Building, I'd definitely second

 that.  You can get tours in the Opera House.  And he's right about the
 bridge-climb tours.  Horribly expensive and you're not allowed to carry
 anything in case it drops.  Walk the path across and the views will be
 almost as good, for free.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
>>
>>> On Jan 21, 2017, at 9:33 AM, Gonz  wrote:
>>>
>>> Fantastic Igor.  I'll definitely look into many of those places.  Our
>>> time is short in SYD, most of the time we will be in NZ, but we'll
>>> make the best of it.  Probably stay downtown so we can go see the
>>> main
>>> sights easily.
>>
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Re: Masham

2017-02-06 Thread Mark Roberts

Lots of great shots in there. What led you Masham? Surely February
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Re: Masham

2017-02-06 Thread Mark Roberts

Bob W-PDML wrote:

>Some photos from a long weekend in Yorkshire:
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>http://www.web-options.com/Masham/

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Re: Masham

2017-02-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

A very interesting and evocative gallery, Bob.

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Re: Tips for photographing Australia/New Zealand?

2017-02-06 Thread Philip Northeast

I would skip the north island of Australia as well

Philip Northeast

www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au

On 7/02/2017 1:54 am, Gonz wrote:

Thanks Bob, those are great pics! I see you visited both NZ islands.
Was the north island worth it? I'm thinking of skipping it, logistics
and all.

On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 7:04 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Gonz,
Don't miss a tour from Rob.
It was the highlight of our time in Sidney!
Regards, Bob S.

Below are some pictures from our 2006 trip to NZ & OZ.
https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipPjmdZIco-Aqp1HhXk9znLKvHaVqLIbkQcVRyeR
https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipOsFDtJlhmdHzXxvmclx4Gtt6b0rOgR4xIz5paW
https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipPULX2eAlElFwMZa34DTgHdELJmHpSMHcVnvC9L
https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipO9IAAECiubn0nggrn79sN7Oy5tcwnvUKpogku3
https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipMkQEzZ1L8F4_0Mw3iz6mqhCZNXKgjPPfLPG9PY
https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipNWYnmLgR7w3Vrk5Jy9mFXf5f8Qwi3gHnuVBXBZ

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Gonz wrote:

Thanks Rob! I know I should be in Sydney at the end of the year, I'm
estimating Dec 27 right now, staying through at least Jan 1, probably
later, as return flights are going to be scarce.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Rob Studdert
wrote:

Gonz,

Let me know when your trip firms, glad to give you a tour and some
tips in Sydney and surrounds when you're down-under.

Cheers,

On 21 January 2017 at 08:17, David Mann wrote:

Regarding the Sydney sights you can buy a multi-pass which will get you

a very good discount for multiple attractions. You can buy the pass at any
one of the attractions. You have to visit that one first, then go through
the others at your leisure. So pick which one you want to do first and buy
the pass through their website.

https://www.sydneyaquarium.com.au/tickets/attractions-passes/

FWIW I think they're all worth doing if you have the time, but don't

expect to get good photos from the tower.

Igor mentioned the Queen Victoria Building, I'd definitely second

that. You can get tours in the Opera House. And he's right about the
bridge-climb tours. Horribly expensive and you're not allowed to carry
anything in case it drops. Walk the path across and the views will be
almost as good, for free.

Cheers,
Dave

On Jan 21, 2017, at 9:33 AM, Gonz wrote:

Fantastic Igor. I'll definitely look into many of those places. Our
time is short in SYD, most of the time we will be in NZ, but we'll
make the best of it. Probably stay downtown so we can go see the main
sights easily.

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Salon de coiffure pour hommes

Found this chap while pottering about this weekend. He's been cutting hair here 
for over 70 years, and is deaf as a post, but full of stories. Since I'm also 
pretty deaf the conversation mostly consisted of us shouting "Pardon? I can't 
hear you! What?" At each other.

Between barely stifled giggles, my friend asked him if he'd cut my hair. He 
said "He hasn't got any!"

Anyway, I had my hair, such as it is, cut for the second time in as many weeks; 
it cost £3.50. He refused to look at the camera for portraits.

http://www.web-options.com/Arthur/

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Re: PESO - 'American Goldfinch'

2017-02-06 Thread Paul Stenquist

Very nice.

Paul via phone

> On Feb 6, 2017, at 3:51 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
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Masham

Some photos from a long weekend in Yorkshire:

http://www.web-options.com/Masham/

Enjoy (I hope).

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Re: OT: Chevy Maliboo

2017-02-06 Thread J.C. O'Connell

consumer reports used to be terrible for photo gear too. they would 
always recommendly schlocky lower priced gear with good specs


or measurements with no regard to brand name or long term reliability 
over the the more expensive name brand gear.


jco


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I don't put much stock in Consumer Reports auto ratings. I've worked with them on some 
editorial projects. Their "engineers" were wet behind the ears college grads 
who didn't like any American cars. And even after Ford and others conclusively 
demonstrated that Hyundai had cheated on Elantra fuel economy numbers, CR kept trying to 
defend them. Turned out they had been hoodwinked by Hyundai as well.

Paul via phone


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It is a 2017.

Consumer reports rates it quite a bit behind the KIA

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On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

Maybe you got the previous model. Car & Driver likes Malibu, and it sells
very well. No government motors btw. All loans long since paid off.
http://www.caranddriver.com/chevrolet/malibu
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On Jan 28, 2017, at 3:21 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 

wrote:

I just need to vent a bit.

I know Paul and others here are fond of GM cars, but based on my

experience

the past 2 weeks I really wonder how Government Motors stays in business.

Lee and I usually rent a compact car here in Maui:  gas is expensive, and
parking spaces are tight.  This year, however, our son accompanied us for
the first two weeks of the trip, and two friends will join us here for

the

last week, so we needed a larger car with more luggage room.  I therefore
asked Avis for an intermediate car, which is described as "a Nissan

Altima

or similar."

What they gave us instead is a Chevy Malibu.  I can only describe it as
spectacularly mediocre.  I can't remember when I have been less pleased
with a rental from Avis.

At home we have a classic Mustang, a 2016 Kia Optima, a 10 year old

Altima

and a 20 year old Optima.  I have owned Buicks in the past.  I am

generally

not fussy about cars.

The Mallibu seems to my eye to be slightly dated in style.  In order to
give it the "sleek" look, however, they how removed a lot of head room

from

the rear seat.  Getting in the rear seat in awkward, and getting out damn
uncomfortable.  Really not much better than trying to exit the rear

"seat"

of the Mustang.

Opening the trunk and the gas tank door are both unusual and tricky.  I
don't think I have ever succeeded on the first try.  The instruments are
part analog and part digital, and totally confusing.  The electronics for
radio and cell phone are simply old fashioned.  Even the seat belts are
difficult to operate.  The trunk is adequate, but not what I had expected
from the size of the car.  I am really wondering how I am going to get

four

passengers and luggage for three into it when I take my wife and her
friends to the airport in a couple of weeks.

I wonder why our government even thought it reasonable to bail out a
company which doesn't seem to understand what consumers want and need.

End of rant.  We now return you to our regular programming.


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Re: PESO - 'American Goldfinch'

Excellent!

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February PUG is up!

2017-02-06 Thread Brian Walters

G'day all,

THe standout for me this month is Bong's "Deep Darkness" - moody and
intimidating - with Mark's "Eric Bostrom at Mid-Ohio" as next favourite.

I like all the others equally - not a top sport missed as far as I can
tell.

As usual you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery, let me know.

+

Next up: 'Geometric SHapes in Nature'

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

You can submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/


Cheers

Brian


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PESO - 'American Goldfinch'

Captured in my backyard with a K-3 and 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, 1/640 @ f8.0, 3200 
ISO


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18337136

Comments appreciated

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Re: Beady Eyes

He's annoyed because he's got a crap hairstyle and his ears are in the wrong 
place.

> On 6 Feb 2017, at 10:09, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Alan , you were in you car yes? I don't see annoyance in the bull's 
> expression..  looks like a wise old patriarch...
> Bison not aggressive to humans on foot  - don't bother us and we wont bother 
> you... but , of course, all breeding bulls such as bison, deer, elk, moose  
> become aggresive to us in the rutting season if we were to get too close.
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2/6/2017 12:50 AM, Alan C wrote:
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Alan C
>> Sent: Monday, 6 February 2017 3:53 AM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Subject: PESO: Beady Eyes
>> 
>> A young Buffalo bull showing his annoyance at our presence. One of a herd of 
>> at least 200. Taken not
>> far from home near Sable Dam.
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/32348777270/
>> 
>> K7 with the HD 55-300 @ ~100mm.
>> 
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Re: I know it won't last, but ...

Wow Paul, I did almost exactly the same thing.  Bench pressing > 212
or so and then it tore. Ugh, painful therapy didnt seem to help.  I
tried to work the complementary muscle groups instead and that seems
to be working.  Hard to sleep though, no position is comfortable.


On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 9:47 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> I tore my rotator cuff at about 60 while bench pressing 225 pounds. It healed 
> after about three years but Then I hurt it again playing tennis. It's pretty 
> good now but I'm cautious. Ten years ago at age 58, I could do 75 pushups 
> touching my nose to the floor. Now I can barely do 10 on a 30% incline. But 
> life goes on. ( I can still hold a camera !)
>
> Paul via phone
>
>> On Feb 4, 2017, at 10:26 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>>
>> Sorry about posting, busy here with the 50th MIT Reunion book.
>> Watched a woman walking her arm up the wall at the therapist Thursday.
>> Your fate soon...
>> Regards, Bob S.
>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 9:12 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>>>
>>> Bob, it's good to hear from you! I haven't seen you posting much lately.
>>>
>>> I saw the orthopedist last week, and he could find no lasting damage.
>>> Apparently youngsters have problems with recurrent dislocations (my
>>> son is a case in point), and we who are 60+ are likely to tear their
>>> rotator cuffs, but I seem to have escaped that. Things are stiff but
>>> gradually loosening up, Ibuprofen is my friend. I'm seeing a physical
>>> terrorist -- I mean therapist -- next week.
>>>
>>> Took the camera along to work yesterday and shot a bit, but don't know
>>> whether any will be post-able.
>>>
>>> I hope that all is well with you and yours.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 9:25 PM, Bob Sullivan 
>>> wrote:
 Heel soon Rick.  Shoulders are problematic.
 regards,  Bob S.

 On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 9:17 PM, Rick Womer 
>>> wrote:

> Well, for me...
>
> No images selected for The Book yet, and I'm pretty disappointed with
> 2016's output.
>
> Have a PUG pic but not posted yet.
>
> Dislocated my right shoulder after falling on a slick walkway, so no
> shooting for a couple of weeks.
>
> Sigh...
>
> Rick
>
>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 17:45 John  wrote:
>>
>> I'm feeling pretty good right now.
>>
>> Got my submissions for the PDML Annual in reasonably early, even
>>> though
>> 3 acceptable quality images represents WAY too large of a percentage
>>> of
>> my work last year. Found something good for the February PUG, and
>>> better
>> still, when I went to shoot it, everything actually seemed to work out
>> for once. And this time, I'm not struggling against the deadline.
>>
>> I've already managed to get out to do some photography four times in
>> January and it seems like every one of my outings has produced at
>>> least
>> one image that's not complete crap.
>>
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Re: Tips for photographing Australia/New Zealand?

Thanks Bob, those are great pics!  I see you visited both NZ islands.
Was the north island worth it?  I'm thinking of skipping it, logistics
and all.


On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 7:04 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Gonz,
> Don't miss a tour from Rob.
> It was the highlight of our time in Sidney!
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> Below are some pictures from our 2006 trip to NZ & OZ.
> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipPjmdZIco-Aqp1HhXk9znLKvHaVqLIbkQcVRyeR
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> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipO9IAAECiubn0nggrn79sN7Oy5tcwnvUKpogku3
> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipMkQEzZ1L8F4_0Mw3iz6mqhCZNXKgjPPfLPG9PY
> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipNWYnmLgR7w3Vrk5Jy9mFXf5f8Qwi3gHnuVBXBZ
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Gonz  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Rob!  I know I should be in Sydney at the end of the year, I'm
>> estimating Dec 27 right now, staying through at least Jan 1, probably
>> later, as return flights are going to be scarce.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Rob Studdert 
>> wrote:
>> > Gonz,
>> >
>> > Let me know when your trip firms, glad to give you a tour and some
>> > tips in Sydney and surrounds when you're down-under.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> >
>> > On 21 January 2017 at 08:17, David Mann  wrote:
>> >> Regarding the Sydney sights you can buy a multi-pass which will get you
>> a very good discount for multiple attractions.  You can buy the pass at any
>> one of the attractions.  You have to visit that one first, then go through
>> the others at your leisure.  So pick which one you want to do first and buy
>> the pass through their website.
>> >>
>> >> https://www.sydneyaquarium.com.au/tickets/attractions-passes/
>> >>
>> >> FWIW I think they're all worth doing if you have the time, but don't
>> expect to get good photos from the tower.
>> >>
>> >> Igor mentioned the Queen Victoria Building, I'd definitely second
>> that.  You can get tours in the Opera House.  And he's right about the
>> bridge-climb tours.  Horribly expensive and you're not allowed to carry
>> anything in case it drops.  Walk the path across and the views will be
>> almost as good, for free.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Dave
>> >>
>> >>> On Jan 21, 2017, at 9:33 AM, Gonz  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Fantastic Igor.  I'll definitely look into many of those places.  Our
>> >>> time is short in SYD, most of the time we will be in NZ, but we'll
>> >>> make the best of it.  Probably stay downtown so we can go see the main
>> >>> sights easily.
>> >>
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Re: Beady Eyes

I believe you because you know him in person... and also, I do watch PBS 
Nature series  :_) Im just anthropomorphizing his facial features... 
maybe its the pain killers


ann

On 2/6/2017 8:15 AM, Alan C wrote:
Oh, he's annoyed all right. They tend to screw their eyes up, hence my 
title. Buffalo are completely unpredictable & can attack without 
warning or provocation. No one in their right mind walks near a herd 
of Buffalo. There are at least 200 reported deaths/year in Africa. 
That growth at the top of the horns would be much bigger in a mature 
bull.


LOL

Alan C

-Original Message- From: ann sanfedele
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 12:08 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Beady Eyes

Alan , you were in you car yes? I don't see annoyance in the bull's
expression..  looks like a wise old patriarch...
Bison not aggressive to humans on foot  - don't bother us and we wont
bother you... but , of course, all breeding bulls such as bison, deer,
elk, moose  become aggresive to us in the rutting season if we were to
get too close.

ann



On 2/6/2017 12:50 AM, Alan C wrote:
Thanks for your comments, John, Ken, Larry, Dan & Jack. The subdued 
light helped a lot. Buffalos are neutral to cars but very aggressive 
to humans on foot. The breeding bulls which move in and out of the 
matriarchal herds are the most dangerous. Presumably the North 
American Bison are much the same?


Alan C

-Original Message- From: John Coyle
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 2:36 AM
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: RE: PESO: Beady Eyes

"Don't mess with me" look!  Would not like to tangle with him, that's 
for sure...


John in Brisbane



-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Alan C
Sent: Monday, 6 February 2017 3:53 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: PESO: Beady Eyes

A young Buffalo bull showing his annoyance at our presence. One of a 
herd of at least 200. Taken not

far from home near Sable Dam.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/32348777270/

K7 with the HD 55-300 @ ~100mm.

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Re: Ot; Just so you know...


 Har!

a

On 2/6/2017 5:40 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

Divided by a common sense of humo(u)r...

On 6 Feb 2017 09:26, "ann sanfedele"  wrote:

I knew you were kidding about the specialist ..and  thought I was being
clever in response
  - however I really did exile the offending item.
a



On 2/6/2017 3:16 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:


Not really suggesting specialists. I was trying to be clever with
"There, their...".

CM





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Re: Beady Eyes

Oh, he's annoyed all right. They tend to screw their eyes up, hence my 
title. Buffalo are completely unpredictable & can attack without warning or 
provocation. No one in their right mind walks near a herd of Buffalo. There 
are at least 200 reported deaths/year in Africa. That growth at the top of 
the horns would be much bigger in a mature bull.


LOL

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: ann sanfedele

Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 12:08 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Beady Eyes

Alan , you were in you car yes? I don't see annoyance in the bull's
expression..  looks like a wise old patriarch...
Bison not aggressive to humans on foot  - don't bother us and we wont
bother you... but , of course, all breeding bulls such as bison, deer,
elk, moose  become aggresive to us in the rutting season if we were to
get too close.

ann



On 2/6/2017 12:50 AM, Alan C wrote:
Thanks for your comments, John, Ken, Larry, Dan & Jack. The subdued light 
helped a lot. Buffalos are neutral to cars but very aggressive to humans 
on foot. The breeding bulls which move in and out of the matriarchal herds 
are the most dangerous. Presumably the North American Bison are much the 
same?


Alan C

-Original Message- From: John Coyle
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 2:36 AM
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: RE: PESO: Beady Eyes

"Don't mess with me" look!  Would not like to tangle with him, that's for 
sure...


John in Brisbane



-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Alan C
Sent: Monday, 6 February 2017 3:53 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: PESO: Beady Eyes

A young Buffalo bull showing his annoyance at our presence. One of a herd 
of at least 200. Taken not

far from home near Sable Dam.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/32348777270/

K7 with the HD 55-300 @ ~100mm.

Alan C





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Re: PDML 2017 Book Upload is Live!

2017-02-06 Thread Jan van Wijk


On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 17:17:03 -0500 Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>Send us your photos for the 2017 Book
>http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/upload.php

OK, finally got three images picked and uploaded, like many I experienced
severe difficulties selecting three images from last year that stood out :)

Need to get out photographing a bit more ...

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Re: Ot; Just so you know...

2017-02-06 Thread Chris Mitchell

Divided by a common sense of humo(u)r...

On 6 Feb 2017 09:26, "ann sanfedele"  wrote:

I knew you were kidding about the specialist ..and  thought I was being
clever in response
 - however I really did exile the offending item.
a



On 2/6/2017 3:16 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

> Not really suggesting specialists. I was trying to be clever with
> "There, their...".
>
> CM
>
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Re: Beady Eyes

Alan , you were in you car yes? I don't see annoyance in the bull's 
expression..  looks like a wise old patriarch...
Bison not aggressive to humans on foot  - don't bother us and we wont 
bother you... but , of course, all breeding bulls such as bison, deer, 
elk, moose  become aggresive to us in the rutting season if we were to 
get too close.


ann



On 2/6/2017 12:50 AM, Alan C wrote:
Thanks for your comments, John, Ken, Larry, Dan & Jack. The subdued 
light helped a lot. Buffalos are neutral to cars but very aggressive 
to humans on foot. The breeding bulls which move in and out of the 
matriarchal herds are the most dangerous. Presumably the North 
American Bison are much the same?


Alan C

-Original Message- From: John Coyle
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 2:36 AM
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: RE: PESO: Beady Eyes

"Don't mess with me" look!  Would not like to tangle with him, that's 
for sure...


John in Brisbane



-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Alan C
Sent: Monday, 6 February 2017 3:53 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: PESO: Beady Eyes

A young Buffalo bull showing his annoyance at our presence. One of a 
herd of at least 200. Taken not

far from home near Sable Dam.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/32348777270/

K7 with the HD 55-300 @ ~100mm.

Alan C





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