Re: PESO - Down In Indiana

[Mark C]

Thanks Marnie - I had sent a reply to Ann but the vagaries of my email 
update kept the re ply from going to the list...


As for the photo - it's done as far as I'm concerned. I got a bunch of 
much worse photos waiting to be posted!


Mark

On 7/4/2017 9:32 PM, Marnie (aka Doe) wrote:

Well, my name isn't ann, but in my opinion, not an improvement.

HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-)

On 7/4/2017 6:21 PM, pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

Hi Ann -
I goofed up my reply to this to the list - so here it is again -
alternate crop of the photo with the dark cloud in the upper left
removed:
http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/down-in-indiana-alternate-crop?blog=9 


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Re: PESO - Near Ruple Union Cemetery

[ann sanfedele]

Right - the dog really makes it all work...

ann

On 7/4/2017 6:41 PM, Mark C wrote:

Thanks Ann!

If not for the dog I proably would not have taken the shot - don't 
know where it came from but I was standing where it is in the photo 
just a few minutes earlier. This was another approaching storm shot 
(taken a  few days before the last one I posted) and the mood has 
shifted to feeling somewhat heavy as the rain was coming in.


Mark


On 7/4/2017 3:26 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

That's terrific, Mark  - very powerful...
all fits together perfectly

ann



On 7/4/2017 12:20 PM, Mark C wrote:

Another shot from downstate Indiana -

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/near-ruple-union-cemetery 



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Re: PESO - Near Ruple Union Cemetery

[Marnie (aka Doe)]

Doesn't do much for me.

Take with a grain of salt, Marnie aka Doe

On 7/4/2017 9:20 AM, Mark C wrote:

Another shot from downstate Indiana -

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/near-ruple-union-cemetery

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Re: PESO - Down In Indiana

[Marnie (aka Doe)]

Well, my name isn't ann, but in my opinion, not an improvement.

HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-)

On 7/4/2017 6:21 PM, pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

Hi Ann -
I goofed up my reply to this to the list - so here it is again -
alternate crop of the photo with the dark cloud in the upper left
removed:
http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/down-in-indiana-alternate-crop?blog=9
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Re: PESO - Down In Indiana

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Hi Ann -
I goofed up my reply to this to the list - so here it is again -
alternate crop of the photo with the dark cloud in the upper left
removed:
http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/down-in-indiana-alternate-crop?blog=9
Mark

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Subject: Re: PESO - Down In Indiana

 On 7/4/2017 8:42 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
 > Mark - I think you misunderstood... when I said the sky is is the 
 > thing for me, I meant the sky _makes_ the photo... don't you go
messin 
 > with that sky :-)
 > in my eye, that is the center of interest
 >
 > ann
 >
 > On 7/3/2017 11:55 PM, Mark C wrote:
 >> Thanks Ann. Coming back to this image tonight I'm seeing the dark 
 >> clouds in the upper left to be a problem - competing for the
center 
 >> of interest but also not so much conveying the sense of the 
 >> approaching storm. (I was blowing like mad when I took the shot so
in 
 >> my mind the sense of the storm coming up is very real, but I'm not

 >> just looking at the photo.) But the only way to mitigate the cloud
is 
 >> to go to a weird crop, like 16:9
 >>
 >> Mark
 >>
 >> On 7/3/2017 7:10 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
 >>> The sky is the thing for me. - but the barn is just right and the

 >>> fence is fine too -- if I started getting nit-picky I would just
say 
 >>> that it isn't that there is an object on the far right (the
truck) 
 >>> but that the truck is too modern looking - the barn and the fence

 >>> look like they could be from an earlier time.
 >>> Is your truckless frame the same in all other regards? would like

 >>> to see that
 >>>
 >>> ann
 >>>
 >>> On 7/1/2017 1:38 PM, Mark C wrote:
  Thanks, Marne. I think you are right about the competing centers
of 
  interest. I have other shots without the fence and truck. I
might 
  try a shot with just the fence, no truck, since I don't have one

  with just the truck and no fence. Without one or the other I
don't 
  think there is enough going on in the image.
 
  Mark
 
 
 
  On 7/1/2017 1:07 AM, Marnie (aka Doe) wrote:
 > Great sky.
 >
 > I usually love your shots, it's strange to me to say I have
some 
 > quibbles. Something about the placement of the barn, re fence
and 
 > passing truck isn't pleasing to me. (Too many focal points? Not

 > sure.)
 >
 > I would have walked closer to the fence to leave it out. (I'd
say 
 > crop it, but don't think it can be done now. At least not
without 
 > cloning.)
 >
 > Take with a grain of salt, Marnie aka Doe :-)
 >
 > On 6/30/2017 8:49 PM, Mark C wrote:
 >> I spent the last week down in rural Indiana, got home a few
hours 
 >> ago
 >> and am starting to review images. Here's a shot from yesterday
-
 >>
 >>
http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/down-in-indiana
 /> >>
 >> or on flickr:
 >>
 >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/35641165115/
 /> >>
 >> K1 and FA 20-35 f4 @ f16.
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Re: PESO Tufted Titmouse

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Cute little fellow.


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On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Paul Stenquist 
wrote:

> I don’t see a lot of these, but every once in a while one drops by. They
> like the suet with peanuts. Almost everyone does. Smells good, but so far I
> haven’t been tempted to taste it.
>
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Re: PESO Tufted Titmouse

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Mark. Yeah, he didn't linger, but perched in a good spot when I happened 
to be ready.

Paul via phone

> On Jul 4, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> 
> Another nice one, Paul - those are fast little birds, hard to catch on camera!
> 
>> On 7/4/2017 3:55 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> I don’t see a lot of these, but every once in a while one drops by. They 
>> like the suet with peanuts. Almost everyone does. Smells good, but so far I 
>> haven’t been tempted to taste it.
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18404815/tufted-titmouse
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Re: PESO: Southern Magnolia

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Rick thanks. I at first was debating about leaving it or not but for the 
time being will leave it. I might change my mind later on.


Dan thanks. I for now will leave the little one.

Doe thanks

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On 7/3/2017 9:02 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Very nice. I think the bug crawling out from between the petals adds something 
(besides protein!).

Rick




On Jun 28, 2017, at 10:38 PM, PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com 
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On a recent visit to Radnor Lake we left there and went to Ellington Ag Center 
to see if their Southern Magnolia trees were in true wonderful bloom. We were 
there for a bit then a nice bit of rain started so we hung out under one of the 
Magnolia Trees while a mild rain fell down.

This is one of the Southern Magnolia tree blooms.

http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/flowers-floral-blooms/e8eb47e80

Hope everyone in the states is staying cooling this summer especially those in 
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Re: PESO Tufted Titmouse

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Nice Titmouse. As has been stated they are really quick birds so perhaps 
the suet with peanuts gave them a nice sleepy calm feeling.


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On 7/4/2017 2:55 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I don’t see a lot of these, but every once in a while one drops by. They like 
the suet with peanuts. Almost everyone does. Smells good, but so far I haven’t 
been tempted to taste it.

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Re: PESO - Down In Indiana

[Marnie (aka Doe)]

Ditto, what she said. Double.

For me, the fence, because it is parallel to the viewer and is not a 
leading line, doesn't add much. Truck? Maybe. I think it would have been 
a great photo without fence and without truck. Just sky and house and 
barn and lots and lots of field. But preference given to the sky.


My $.02.

Marnie aka Doe

On 7/4/2017 3:51 PM, Mark C wrote:

On 7/4/2017 8:42 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

Mark - I think you misunderstood... when I said the sky is is the
thing for me, I meant the sky _makes_ the photo... don't you go messin
with that sky :-)
in my eye, that is the center of interest

ann

On 7/3/2017 11:55 PM, Mark C wrote:

Thanks Ann. Coming back to this image tonight I'm seeing the dark
clouds in the upper left to be a problem - competing for the center
of interest but also not so much conveying the sense of the
approaching storm. (I was blowing like mad when I took the shot so in
my mind the sense of the storm coming up is very real, but I'm not
just looking at the photo.) But the only way to mitigate the cloud is
to go to a weird crop, like 16:9

Mark

On 7/3/2017 7:10 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

The sky is the thing for me. - but the barn is just right and the
fence is fine too -- if I started getting nit-picky I would just say
that it isn't that there is an object on the far right (the truck)
but that the truck is too modern looking - the barn and the fence
look like they could be from an earlier time.
Is your truckless frame the same in all other regards?  would like
to see that

ann

On 7/1/2017 1:38 PM, Mark C wrote:

Thanks, Marne. I think you are right about the competing centers of
interest. I have other shots without the fence and truck. I might
try a shot with just the fence, no truck, since I don't have one
with just the truck and no fence. Without one or the other I don't
think there is enough going on in the image.

Mark



On 7/1/2017 1:07 AM, Marnie (aka Doe) wrote:

Great sky.

I usually love your shots, it's strange to me to say I have some
quibbles. Something about the placement of the barn, re fence and
passing truck isn't pleasing to me. (Too many focal points? Not
sure.)

I would have walked closer to the fence to leave it out. (I'd say
crop it, but don't think it can be done now. At least not without
cloning.)

Take with a grain of salt, Marnie aka Doe :-)


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Re: PESO Tufted Titmouse

[Marnie (aka Doe)]

Nice one, Paul.

You must have a strong telephoto.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  We have those here, too.

On 7/4/2017 3:43 PM, Mark C wrote:

Another nice one, Paul - those are fast little birds, hard to catch on
camera!

On 7/4/2017 3:55 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I don’t see a lot of these, but every once in a while one drops by.
They like the suet with peanuts. Almost everyone does. Smells good,
but so far I haven’t been tempted to taste it.

https://www.photo.net/photo/18404815/tufted-titmouse


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PESO - Spiral

[Marnie (aka Doe)]

Also taken 2011. In Embarcadero Center, SF.

I am inordinately fond of this photo, because normally when I do "street 
photography" (i.e. people I don't know), they don't end up where I want 
them.


I was positive I showed this on PDML before, but have found no 
indication that I actually ever did. I have shown it on Facebook.


http://www.mapphotography.org/PAWS/pages/spiral.htm

Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO - Down In Indiana

[Mark C]

On 7/4/2017 8:42 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
Mark - I think you misunderstood... when I said the sky is is the 
thing for me, I meant the sky _makes_ the photo... don't you go messin 
with that sky :-)

in my eye, that is the center of interest

ann

On 7/3/2017 11:55 PM, Mark C wrote:
Thanks Ann. Coming back to this image tonight I'm seeing the dark 
clouds in the upper left to be a problem - competing for the center 
of interest but also not so much conveying the sense of the 
approaching storm. (I was blowing like mad when I took the shot so in 
my mind the sense of the storm coming up is very real, but I'm not 
just looking at the photo.) But the only way to mitigate the cloud is 
to go to a weird crop, like 16:9


Mark

On 7/3/2017 7:10 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
The sky is the thing for me. - but the barn is just right and the 
fence is fine too -- if I started getting nit-picky I would just say 
that it isn't that there is an object on the far right (the truck) 
but that the truck is too modern looking - the barn and the fence 
look like they could be from an earlier time.
Is your truckless frame the same in all other regards?  would like 
to see that


ann

On 7/1/2017 1:38 PM, Mark C wrote:
Thanks, Marne. I think you are right about the competing centers of 
interest. I have other shots without the fence and truck. I might 
try a shot with just the fence, no truck, since I don't have one 
with just the truck and no fence. Without one or the other I don't 
think there is enough going on in the image.


Mark



On 7/1/2017 1:07 AM, Marnie (aka Doe) wrote:

Great sky.

I usually love your shots, it's strange to me to say I have some 
quibbles. Something about the placement of the barn, re fence and 
passing truck isn't pleasing to me. (Too many focal points? Not 
sure.)


I would have walked closer to the fence to leave it out. (I'd say 
crop it, but don't think it can be done now. At least not without 
cloning.)


Take with a grain of salt, Marnie aka Doe :-)

On 6/30/2017 8:49 PM, Mark C wrote:
I spent the last week down in rural Indiana, got home a few hours 
ago

and am starting to review images. Here's a shot from yesterday -

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/down-in-indiana

or on flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/35641165115/

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Re: PESO Tufted Titmouse

[Mark C]

Another nice one, Paul - those are fast little birds, hard to catch on 
camera!


On 7/4/2017 3:55 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I don’t see a lot of these, but every once in a while one drops by. They like 
the suet with peanuts. Almost everyone does. Smells good, but so far I haven’t 
been tempted to taste it.

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Re: PESO - Near Ruple Union Cemetery

[Mark C]

Thanks Ann!

If not for the dog I proably would not have taken the shot - don't know 
where it came from but I was standing where it is in the photo just a 
few minutes earlier. This was another approaching storm shot (taken a  
few days before the last one I posted) and the mood has shifted to 
feeling somewhat heavy as the rain was coming in.


Mark


On 7/4/2017 3:26 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

That's terrific, Mark  - very powerful...
all fits together perfectly

ann



On 7/4/2017 12:20 PM, Mark C wrote:

Another shot from downstate Indiana -

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/near-ruple-union-cemetery 



or on flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/35677418676/in/dateposted-public/ 



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Re: PESO - Near Ruple Union Cemetery

[Mark C]

Thanks, Paul - I have no idea what that thing is, I even drove y to take 
a look. A ew fresh boards nailed together into a rough frame with some 
light equipment under it.


On 7/4/2017 2:50 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

A nice pastoral scene, but I would clone out that thing behind the cars. You 
could even clone out the cars. You have plenty to work with.

Paul

On Jul 4, 2017, at 12:20 PM, Mark C  wrote:

Another shot from downstate Indiana -

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/near-ruple-union-cemetery

or on flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/35677418676/in/dateposted-public/

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Re: PESO - Near Ruple Union Cemetery

[ann sanfedele]

Paul - are you looking at it on your phone or big monitor?

There is a whole novel in this photo... all the little pieces contribute
look again and see if you still would amputate anything

ann

On 7/4/2017 2:50 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

A nice pastoral scene, but I would clone out that thing behind the cars. You 
could even clone out the cars. You have plenty to work with.

Paul

On Jul 4, 2017, at 12:20 PM, Mark C  wrote:

Another shot from downstate Indiana -

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/near-ruple-union-cemetery

or on flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/35677418676/in/dateposted-public/

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Re: July PUG is up

[Igor PDML-StR]

That's a beatiful gallery!

Having known PDMLers (with so many punsters) for so many years, I am 
surprised by the fact that there was no other interpretation of the theme:

1) other types of "leaves"
or
2) a singular 3rd-person form of the verb "to leave".

(I was tempted to do so, but didn't have time or energy to find or shoot 
some reasonable photo for that.)


Cheers,

Igor



Brian Walters Tue, 04 Jul 2017 05:14:02 -0700 wrote:

G'day all,

A smaller gallery this month but lots to like.


As usual you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

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Re: July PUG is up

[Paul Stenquist]

I’ll second that. A graphic image.


> On Jul 4, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
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>> G'day all,
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>> 
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> Nice. Bill Robb's "Hosta" is my favorite.
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Re: July PUG is up

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Brian Walters wrote:

>G'day all,
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PESO "Can't Talk Now...

[Paul Stenquist]

I’m busy." 

Peanuts plus suet is a big hit. 

https://www.photo.net/photo/18404818/red-bellied-woodpecker


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Re: PESO: Southern Magnolia

[Marnie (aka Doe)]

Lovely. I'd like it even without the bug.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)

On 6/28/2017 7:38 PM, PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com wrote:

On a recent visit to Radnor Lake we left there and went to Ellington Ag
Center to see if their Southern Magnolia trees were in true wonderful
bloom. We were there for a bit then a nice bit of rain started so we
hung out under one of the Magnolia Trees while a mild rain fell down.

This is one of the Southern Magnolia tree blooms.

http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/flowers-floral-blooms/e8eb47e80

Hope everyone in the states is staying cooling this summer especially
those in Arizona.


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Re: PESO - Night and Day

[Marnie (aka Doe)]

Thanks, Rick. It probably is sharper. I must admit I am not renown for 
taking sharp shots.


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On 7/3/2017 6:55 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Nice pair of shots, Marnie. I particularly like the night one; it seems sharper 
and more interesting than the daytime one.

Rick





On Jul 3, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Marnie (aka Doe)  wrote:

Finally getting near the end of 2011 (although not all pages are hooked in yet).

Two PESOs, actually.

An iconic San Francisco Landmark, Coit Tower. (Built 1933, money donated by a 
wealthy SF socialite.)

There are also some great art deco era murals inside. But I was shooting it 
from a distance, from a SF pier.

Coit by Day
http://www.mapphotography.org/PAWS/pages/coitday.htm

Coit at Night
http://www.mapphotography.org/PAWS/pages/coitnight.htm

Comments welcome.

Marnie aka Doe  (I have not yet figured out how to size PESOs, maybe they 
should have been 800, not 900.)


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Re: Strange thing

[mike wilson]

I have almost the same excuses for misspelling "grammar".

> On 04 July 2017 at 13:40 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:
> 
> 
> It was late at night, I was tired, (I seem to post a lot like that), at 
> least I wasn't drunk.  At least, I don't think I was.
> 
> 
> On 7/4/2017 2:44 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> >> On 04 July 2017 at 07:22 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> It must be a sign of old age, and I cannot remember who on the list put
> >> me on to this, I suppose I could look it up but that's not important now.
> >>
> >> Ann, on the header of an email to the right of the reply button, right
> >> click and choose customize, it should be the only choice you get.
> >>
> >> That will open the tool pallet.
> > My gammar-nazi heart wants to do something with this; my
> > you-should-be-on-your-way-to-work brain says I should let it lie.
> >
> >> Click on the reply button, and drag it to the pallet.
> >>
> >> Close the pallet.
> >>
> >> The straight reply button is now on the pallet.
> >>
> >> The smart reply which is now the only visible reply button will work
> >> more or less properly, so it will default to reply list if you're
> >> looking at a mail list email, and it will reply to an individual if the
> >> email is from an individual.   You'll also have the option of replying
> >> to the person who sent the email to the list by clicking the down arrow.
> >>
> >> It's almost as good as if the reply button wasn't broken.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/2/2017 11:29 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
> >>> Will everyone using THunderbird please raise your hands :-)
> >>>
> >>> alan - I still have a problem remembering to hit "REPLY LIST" instead
> >>> of jsut REPLY  -
> >>> some of the people whose pesos I've commented on , I think, see what i
> >>> said and reply to me and to list for sake of discussion
> >>>
> >>> At the moment I can't look at list much - Weekends arem more my work
> >>> time than weekdays
> >>>
> >>> ann
> >>>
> >>> On 7/2/2017 12:44 AM, Alan C wrote:
>  I'm not receiving the original posts some PDMLers (Jack & Marnie at
>  least) & have to pick them up in comments instead.
> 
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PESO Tufted Titmouse

[Paul Stenquist]

I don’t see a lot of these, but every once in a while one drops by. They like 
the suet with peanuts. Almost everyone does. Smells good, but so far I haven’t 
been tempted to taste it.

https://www.photo.net/photo/18404815/tufted-titmouse
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Re: PESO - Near Ruple Union Cemetery

[ann sanfedele]

That's terrific, Mark  - very powerful...
all fits together perfectly

ann



On 7/4/2017 12:20 PM, Mark C wrote:

Another shot from downstate Indiana -

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/near-ruple-union-cemetery 



or on flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/35677418676/in/dateposted-public/ 



K1 and DFA 28-105.

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Re: PESO - Near Ruple Union Cemetery

[Paul Stenquist]

A nice pastoral scene, but I would clone out that thing behind the cars. You 
could even clone out the cars. You have plenty to work with.

Paul
> On Jul 4, 2017, at 12:20 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> 
> Another shot from downstate Indiana -
> 
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/near-ruple-union-cemetery
> 
> or on flickr:
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/35677418676/in/dateposted-public/
> 
> K1 and DFA 28-105.
> 
> Mark
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Re: Strange thing

[ann sanfedele]

That works!  thanks PJ -
although it doesn't say "smart reply"  it just says "reply list" now.. 
when I get mail from PDML

THANKS much!

I feel as you do that the upgrades are probably necessary for safety

ann

On 7/4/2017 2:22 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
It must be a sign of old age, and I cannot remember who on the list 
put me on to this, I suppose I could look it up but that's not 
important now.


Ann, on the header of an email to the right of the reply button, right 
click and choose customize, it should be the only choice you get.


That will open the tool pallet.

Click on the reply button, and drag it to the pallet.

Close the pallet.

The straight reply button is now on the pallet.

The smart reply which is now the only visible reply button will work 
more or less properly, so it will default to reply list if you're 
looking at a mail list email, and it will reply to an individual if 
the email is from an individual.   You'll also have the option of 
replying to the person who sent the email to the list by clicking the 
down arrow.


It's almost as good as if the reply button wasn't broken.


On 7/2/2017 11:29 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

Will everyone using THunderbird please raise your hands :-)

alan - I still have a problem remembering to hit "REPLY LIST" instead 
of jsut REPLY  -
some of the people whose pesos I've commented on , I think, see what 
i said and reply to me and to list for sake of discussion


At the moment I can't look at list much - Weekends arem more my work 
time than weekdays


ann

On 7/2/2017 12:44 AM, Alan C wrote:
I'm not receiving the original posts some PDMLers (Jack & Marnie at 
least) & have to pick them up in comments instead.


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Re: PESO - Maple Seed

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Sweet!

Most impressive, especially when view in the largest version.

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On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Mark C  wrote:

> Back to studio botanical shots - this one is very simple and
> straightforward, a maple seed collected a few months ago, now fairly dry:
>
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/maple-seed
>
> or on flickr:
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> https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/35574339901
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> K-1, Pixel shift Mode, DFA 100 Macro.
>
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Re: PESO: Southern Magnolia

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I like the way the bloom fill the frame -- and then some.

Personally, I would prefer it without the insect, especially since it is
not a very interesting insect, based on what we can see of it.

With or without the insect, it is a superior image.


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On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:

> Very nice. I think the bug crawling out from between the petals adds
> something (besides protein!).
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> > On Jun 28, 2017, at 10:38 PM, PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com 
> > 
> wrote:
> >
> > On a recent visit to Radnor Lake we left there and went to Ellington Ag
> Center to see if their Southern Magnolia trees were in true wonderful
> bloom. We were there for a bit then a nice bit of rain started so we hung
> out under one of the Magnolia Trees while a mild rain fell down.
> >
> > This is one of the Southern Magnolia tree blooms.
> >
> > http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/flowers-floral-blooms/e8eb47e80
> >
> > Hope everyone in the states is staying cooling this summer especially
> those in Arizona.
> >
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Re: PESO -- Ready for the Hookah.

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 1:20 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> Nice, but a bit more of the hookah please!


I second that emotion!

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PESO - Near Ruple Union Cemetery

[Mark C]

Another shot from downstate Indiana -

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/near-ruple-union-cemetery

or on flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/35677418676/in/dateposted-public/

K1 and DFA 28-105.

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Re: Strange thing

[P. J. Alling]

Along with bug fixes, a lot of the Thunderbird updates are to fix 
security issues.


No one wants to acknowledge security holes in their software, so unless 
it's one that's become an actual problem with a documented exploit, it 
probably won't be mentioned in the release notes.


I hate to bow to an arrogant SOB of a developer who introduces a bug and 
through ignorance and due to just plain pigheadedness refuses to admit 
he's wrong, but falling back to a previous version, probably isn't the 
best idea, unless something more serious is broken.


As I said I removed the "regular" reply button from the in message 
toolbar and haven't accidentally replied off list since. The smart reply 
button works the way you'd expect it to if the regular reply button 
isn't there.



On 7/4/2017 11:05 AM, Mark C wrote:
Yea! Uninstalling and re-installing 45.8.0 was super fast and easy and 
solved the problem.


Prior releases are archived by Mozilla here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/




On 7/2/2017 1:36 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


Or you can just go back to the previous version of Thunderbird:
http://www.oldapps.com/thunderbird.php







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Re: Strange thing

[Mark C]

Yea! Uninstalling and re-installing 45.8.0 was super fast and easy and 
solved the problem.


Prior releases are archived by Mozilla here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/




On 7/2/2017 1:36 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


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Re: Ready for the Hookah.

[P. J. Alling]

Not to make excuses, since the major problem was my fault, but I had set 
the ISO for 160, I should have bumped that up to 800 or so based on the 
light conditions.  So exposure speed was about 1/5 second.  There was 
probably some subject movement, and some photographer movement that the 
SR system couldn't entirely compensate.


As for the framing there were distracting elements on the right hand 
side of the frame, which I composed around, and I ended up cropping 
quite a bit anyway.


There are times when I wish for a "fast" normal zoom in the 16-50mm 
range, but I still haven't found the one I actually want to own or pay 
full price for.



On 7/4/2017 10:09 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote:

PJ Sir, pretty good picture considering dusk time and street lighting.
A bit unsharp though and you left space at the LHS instead of
including more of the HOOKAH on the RHS.
We are made to think your picture story is round the Hookah? or is it
the pretty Lady??

"As usual comments are welcome and will NOT be ignored".

Regards.
Bipin.

PS: I spent some 19 years in the Middle East, North Africa & the CIS
where Hookah smoking, Turkish Coffee & Nuts are a pastime.
Here in India Hookah was very common, but not now because of
health concerns. I still have my Dad's Hookah painted in 24 Carat
Gold, silver mouth piece with the tubing braided in Gold
Thread. My Grandma would smoke the smaller hand held version. There
were
some (4) four Tobacconist - all Moslems - in our neighborhood,
who would make fresh moist Tobacco balls in some (18) Flavors to
order. My Dad preferred the "Spicy" and my Grand Mom the
"Sweet" type. I have a small supply in the Freezer from my Birth place
Patna some 2100 Km up north from Bangalore my home town. Down
South there are no Tobacconists.
In Libya you can smoke it on the side walk Restaurants.




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Re: OT, sort of... On a tree and a book.

[Bulent Celasun]

Thank you Bruce.

The thing is, it is far easier to get a sharp (for example) picture of
most things and
one can easily incline towards that without thinking too much. In
contrast, when one thinks too much... well, nothing happens and no one
can see picture, sharp or otherwise :)

Now, I must think about this!

Or, shouldn't I?

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2017-07-04 16:11 GMT+03:00 Bruce Walker :
> I enjoyed both, Bulent, but particularly your book appreciation. That
> lesson you learned is a critical one. The utter lack of any feel for
> that in so many photographers is what is lately driving me away from
> many social sharing sites.
>
> Thanks for sharing!
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 4:08 AM, Bulent Celasun  
> wrote:
>> A walnut tree (slightly off topic for semantic reasons, as the camera
>> was a Ricoh!).
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/35578486321/in/dateposted-public/lightbox/
>>
>>
>> A short blog entry on Eudora Welty's book "Photographs" (again,
>> slightly off topic for lacking Pentax as she has primarily used a
>> Rolleiflex).
>>
>> https://celasun.wordpress.com/2017/07/04/eudora-welty-photographs/
>>
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Ready for the Hookah.

[Bipin Gupta]

PJ Sir, pretty good picture considering dusk time and street lighting.
A bit unsharp though and you left space at the LHS instead of
including more of the HOOKAH on the RHS.
We are made to think your picture story is round the Hookah? or is it
the pretty Lady??

"As usual comments are welcome and will NOT be ignored".

Regards.
Bipin.

PS: I spent some 19 years in the Middle East, North Africa & the CIS
where Hookah smoking, Turkish Coffee & Nuts are a pastime.
   Here in India Hookah was very common, but not now because of
health concerns. I still have my Dad's Hookah painted in 24 Carat
   Gold, silver mouth piece with the tubing braided in Gold
Thread. My Grandma would smoke the smaller hand held version. There
were
   some (4) four Tobacconist - all Moslems - in our neighborhood,
who would make fresh moist Tobacco balls in some (18) Flavors to
   order. My Dad preferred the "Spicy" and my Grand Mom the
"Sweet" type. I have a small supply in the Freezer from my Birth place
   Patna some 2100 Km up north from Bangalore my home town. Down
South there are no Tobacconists.
   In Libya you can smoke it on the side walk Restaurants.

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Re: OT, sort of... On a tree and a book.

[Bruce Walker]

I enjoyed both, Bulent, but particularly your book appreciation. That
lesson you learned is a critical one. The utter lack of any feel for
that in so many photographers is what is lately driving me away from
many social sharing sites.

Thanks for sharing!


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> A walnut tree (slightly off topic for semantic reasons, as the camera
> was a Ricoh!).
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/35578486321/in/dateposted-public/lightbox/
>
>
> A short blog entry on Eudora Welty's book "Photographs" (again,
> slightly off topic for lacking Pentax as she has primarily used a
> Rolleiflex).
>
> https://celasun.wordpress.com/2017/07/04/eudora-welty-photographs/
>
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Re: July PUG is up

[Bruce Walker]

Lots to like indeed.

I love the quiet simplicity in so many of these. Frost on leaves is a
fave of mine, so David Mann;'s and Henk's especially appeal to me. I'm
a sucker for the textures in Hosta, so I really appreciated Bill
Robb's image. A 27 image stack of K-1 shots must have been a monster
to process! :)

Fine work all around.


On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 8:11 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day all,
>
> A smaller gallery this month but lots to like.
>
> As usual you'll find the gallery here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).
>
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
> let me know.
>
> +
>
> Next up: 'City Transportation'.
>
> Full Submissions Guidelines here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>
> You can submit here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>
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>
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Re: PESO - Down In Indiana

[ann sanfedele]

Mark - I think you misunderstood... when I said the sky is is the thing 
for me, I meant the sky _makes_ the photo... don't you go messin with 
that sky :-)

in my eye, that is the center of interest

ann

On 7/3/2017 11:55 PM, Mark C wrote:
Thanks Ann. Coming back to this image tonight I'm seeing the dark 
clouds in the upper left to be a problem - competing for the center of 
interest but also not so much conveying the sense of the approaching 
storm. (I was blowing like mad when I took the shot so in my mind the 
sense of the storm coming up is very real, but I'm not just looking at 
the photo.) But the only way to mitigate the cloud is to go to a weird 
crop, like 16:9


Mark

On 7/3/2017 7:10 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
The sky is the thing for me. - but the barn is just right and the 
fence is fine too -- if I started getting nit-picky I would just say 
that it isn't that there is an object on the far right (the truck) 
but that the truck is too modern looking - the barn and the fence 
look like they could be from an earlier time.
Is your truckless frame the same in all other regards?  would like to 
see that


ann

On 7/1/2017 1:38 PM, Mark C wrote:
Thanks, Marne. I think you are right about the competing centers of 
interest. I have other shots without the fence and truck. I might 
try a shot with just the fence, no truck, since I don't have one 
with just the truck and no fence. Without one or the other I don't 
think there is enough going on in the image.


Mark



On 7/1/2017 1:07 AM, Marnie (aka Doe) wrote:

Great sky.

I usually love your shots, it's strange to me to say I have some 
quibbles. Something about the placement of the barn, re fence and 
passing truck isn't pleasing to me. (Too many focal points? Not sure.)


I would have walked closer to the fence to leave it out. (I'd say 
crop it, but don't think it can be done now. At least not without 
cloning.)


Take with a grain of salt, Marnie aka Doe :-)

On 6/30/2017 8:49 PM, Mark C wrote:

I spent the last week down in rural Indiana, got home a few hours ago
and am starting to review images. Here's a shot from yesterday -

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/down-in-indiana

or on flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/35641165115/

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Re: Strange thing

[P. J. Alling]

It was late at night, I was tired, (I seem to post a lot like that), at 
least I wasn't drunk.  At least, I don't think I was.



On 7/4/2017 2:44 AM, mike wilson wrote:

On 04 July 2017 at 07:22 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:


It must be a sign of old age, and I cannot remember who on the list put
me on to this, I suppose I could look it up but that's not important now.

Ann, on the header of an email to the right of the reply button, right
click and choose customize, it should be the only choice you get.

That will open the tool pallet.

My gammar-nazi heart wants to do something with this; my
you-should-be-on-your-way-to-work brain says I should let it lie.


Click on the reply button, and drag it to the pallet.

Close the pallet.

The straight reply button is now on the pallet.

The smart reply which is now the only visible reply button will work
more or less properly, so it will default to reply list if you're
looking at a mail list email, and it will reply to an individual if the
email is from an individual.   You'll also have the option of replying
to the person who sent the email to the list by clicking the down arrow.

It's almost as good as if the reply button wasn't broken.


On 7/2/2017 11:29 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

Will everyone using THunderbird please raise your hands :-)

alan - I still have a problem remembering to hit "REPLY LIST" instead
of jsut REPLY  -
some of the people whose pesos I've commented on , I think, see what i
said and reply to me and to list for sake of discussion

At the moment I can't look at list much - Weekends arem more my work
time than weekdays

ann

On 7/2/2017 12:44 AM, Alan C wrote:

I'm not receiving the original posts some PDMLers (Jack & Marnie at
least) & have to pick them up in comments instead.



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July PUG is up

[Brian Walters]

G'day all,

A smaller gallery this month but lots to like.

As usual you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
let me know.

+

Next up: 'City Transportation'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

You can submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Cheers

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OT, sort of... On a tree and a book.

[Bulent Celasun]

A walnut tree (slightly off topic for semantic reasons, as the camera
was a Ricoh!).

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/35578486321/in/dateposted-public/lightbox/


A short blog entry on Eudora Welty's book "Photographs" (again,
slightly off topic for lacking Pentax as she has primarily used a
Rolleiflex).

https://celasun.wordpress.com/2017/07/04/eudora-welty-photographs/

Bulent
-
http://patoloji.gen.tr
http://celasun.wordpress.com/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/
http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun

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Re: Strange thing

[mike wilson]

> On 04 July 2017 at 07:22 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:
> 
> 
> It must be a sign of old age, and I cannot remember who on the list put 
> me on to this, I suppose I could look it up but that's not important now.
> 
> Ann, on the header of an email to the right of the reply button, right 
> click and choose customize, it should be the only choice you get.
> 
> That will open the tool pallet.

My gammar-nazi heart wants to do something with this; my
you-should-be-on-your-way-to-work brain says I should let it lie.

> 
> Click on the reply button, and drag it to the pallet.
> 
> Close the pallet.
> 
> The straight reply button is now on the pallet.
> 
> The smart reply which is now the only visible reply button will work 
> more or less properly, so it will default to reply list if you're 
> looking at a mail list email, and it will reply to an individual if the 
> email is from an individual.   You'll also have the option of replying 
> to the person who sent the email to the list by clicking the down arrow.
> 
> It's almost as good as if the reply button wasn't broken.
> 
> 
> On 7/2/2017 11:29 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
> > Will everyone using THunderbird please raise your hands :-)
> >
> > alan - I still have a problem remembering to hit "REPLY LIST" instead 
> > of jsut REPLY  -
> > some of the people whose pesos I've commented on , I think, see what i 
> > said and reply to me and to list for sake of discussion
> >
> > At the moment I can't look at list much - Weekends arem more my work 
> > time than weekdays
> >
> > ann
> >
> > On 7/2/2017 12:44 AM, Alan C wrote:
> >> I'm not receiving the original posts some PDMLers (Jack & Marnie at 
> >> least) & have to pick them up in comments instead.

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Re: Strange thing

[P. J. Alling]

It must be a sign of old age, and I cannot remember who on the list put 
me on to this, I suppose I could look it up but that's not important now.


Ann, on the header of an email to the right of the reply button, right 
click and choose customize, it should be the only choice you get.


That will open the tool pallet.

Click on the reply button, and drag it to the pallet.

Close the pallet.

The straight reply button is now on the pallet.

The smart reply which is now the only visible reply button will work 
more or less properly, so it will default to reply list if you're 
looking at a mail list email, and it will reply to an individual if the 
email is from an individual.   You'll also have the option of replying 
to the person who sent the email to the list by clicking the down arrow.


It's almost as good as if the reply button wasn't broken.


On 7/2/2017 11:29 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

Will everyone using THunderbird please raise your hands :-)

alan - I still have a problem remembering to hit "REPLY LIST" instead 
of jsut REPLY  -
some of the people whose pesos I've commented on , I think, see what i 
said and reply to me and to list for sake of discussion


At the moment I can't look at list much - Weekends arem more my work 
time than weekdays


ann

On 7/2/2017 12:44 AM, Alan C wrote:
I'm not receiving the original posts some PDMLers (Jack & Marnie at 
least) & have to pick them up in comments instead.


Alan C

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