OT: Windows Live Mail woes continue

[Alan C]

The problems have resurfaced. I can now only send with no Subject Line. 
Have abandoned Live Mail & switched to Thunderbird.


Alan C



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Re: PESO 2018 - 034, 035 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

"Repeated web page problem" huh?

G

> On May 23, 2018, at 7:13 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> In spite of a repeated web page
> problem, it's good looking and
> appears to be a comfortable size.
> J
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 23, 2018, at 6:34 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>> 
>> I made portraits of myself and my Moto Guzzi V7III Racer today, since I just 
>> got back from having the suspension upgraded, new custom wheels and new 
>> tires fitted. 
>> 
>> https://flic.kr/p/266gsf6
>> full rez: https://farm1.staticflickr.com/950/41410073995_a696776303_o.jpg
>> 
>> https://flic.kr/p/266gseK
>> full rez: https://farm1.staticflickr.com/949/28438935688_a4b4421348_o.jpg


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:Re: PESO Silver-studded blue:

[Alan C]

Some people still spell it that way but my dictionary says panoramas without
the apostrophe.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Toine

Sent: 23 May, 2018 9:13 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO Silver-studded blue

Yes panorama's is an exception in Dutch, just like kano's in Dutch. In
Afrikaans it's also panorama's?

On 23 May 2018 at 08:22, Alan C  wrote:


No, they were just trying to detract from inflated prices!

I did some research: In Dutch & Afrikaans, an apostrophe is used if the
singular word ends in a unstressed vowel to keep the sound long. If I
understand this correctly, Panoramas would sound like "Panoramis" whereas
Panorama's would sound like "Panoramaz". An Afrikaans plural which springs
to
mind is kano's, the plural of kano (canoe).

Alan C

-Original Message- From: mike wilson
Sent: 23 May, 2018 7:39 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: :Re: PESO Silver-studded blue:

All our greengocers must have Boer ancestry.


On 23 May 2018 at 05:17 Alan C  wrote:



In Afrikaans they do that too & it has "infected" may English speakers.

Alan C

-Original Message- From: Toine
Sent: 22 May, 2018 9:52 PM
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Subject: Re: PESO Silver-studded blue

Ah yes. Never noticed this one. Panorama's is the correct spelling in
Dutch.

On 22 May 2018 at 21:40, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

> P.s. That's a beautiful photo.
>
> Pps. There shouldn't be an apostrophe in "Panorama's" - you'll upset
> Chris. The apostrophe indicates a possessive or a contraction, not a
> plural.
>
> > On 22 May 2018, at 20:34, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> >
> >> On 22 May 2018, at 20:05, Toine  wrote:
> >>
> >> I like that idea of living in the UK, if it isn't a job as a window
> >> cleaner. In germany insects also dropped. Really no problems in the
> >> UK?
> >
> > This is where all the shit is these days.
> >
> >>
> >>> On 22 May 2018 at 20:48, mike wilson  >
>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
>  On 22 May 2018 at 17:08 Toine  wrote:
> 
> 
>  This one is almost gone, like all insects. Apparently all insects
> show a
>  70-80% decline in the last years. Can't remember the last time I >
 had
> to
>  clean my windshield from splashed insects.
> 
>  https://www.repiuk.nl/content/heideblauwtje/
> >>>
> >>> Come and live in the UK.  You can have a full time job between now
> >>> and
> >>> September.



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:Re: PESO Silver-studded blue:

[Alan C]

No, they were just trying to detract from inflated prices!

I did some research: In Dutch & Afrikaans, an apostrophe is used if the
singular word ends in a unstressed vowel to keep the sound long. If I
understand this correctly, Panoramas would sound like "Panoramis" whereas
Panorama's would sound like "Panoramaz". An Afrikaans plural which springs 
to

mind is kano's, the plural of kano (canoe).

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: mike wilson

Sent: 23 May, 2018 7:39 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: :Re: PESO Silver-studded blue:

All our greengocers must have Boer ancestry.


On 23 May 2018 at 05:17 Alan C  wrote:


In Afrikaans they do that too & it has "infected" may English speakers.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Toine

Sent: 22 May, 2018 9:52 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO Silver-studded blue

Ah yes. Never noticed this one. Panorama's is the correct spelling in
Dutch.

On 22 May 2018 at 21:40, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

> P.s. That's a beautiful photo.
>
> Pps. There shouldn't be an apostrophe in "Panorama's" - you'll upset
> Chris. The apostrophe indicates a possessive or a contraction, not a
> plural.
>
> > On 22 May 2018, at 20:34, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> >
> >> On 22 May 2018, at 20:05, Toine  wrote:
> >>
> >> I like that idea of living in the UK, if it isn't a job as a window
> >> cleaner. In germany insects also dropped. Really no problems in the 
> >> UK?

> >
> > This is where all the shit is these days.
> >
> >>
> >>> On 22 May 2018 at 20:48, mike wilson  
> >>> wrote:

> >>>
> >>>
>  On 22 May 2018 at 17:08 Toine  wrote:
> 
> 
>  This one is almost gone, like all insects. Apparently all insects
> show a
>  70-80% decline in the last years. Can't remember the last time I 
>  had

> to
>  clean my windshield from splashed insects.
> 
>  https://www.repiuk.nl/content/heideblauwtje/
> >>>
> >>> Come and live in the UK.  You can have a full time job between now 
> >>> and

> >>> September.


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Re: PESO Steller in the abstract

[ann sanfedele]

I kinda like it... The fence is razor sharp and so are the legs of the 
jay .. so the blur came solely from the action of the jay, not from your 
mis-focus or hand tremor. Photography is painting with light, after all.


ann




On 5/23/2018 2:55 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



Donald Guthrie wrote:

My thought (not original, credit Rick Sammon) is: one blurred photo is a
mistake (admitted in your case) 15 blurred pix is a style. So an exhibit
of 10 sharp photos and 10 blurred photos might work. I like the color


I don't know if I could come up with ten mistakes like that, but if 
we're going on that theme, there was this one where I bumped the green 
button and the shutter speed got reset to two seconds. I thought it 
was OK, but other people really like it:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/28912774054/

Then there is this one, which was actually deliberate:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/42305806561/in/album-72157697166301715/ 




and abstract part of the photo but I don't know of the use for such a
photo. Printed large and hung on the wall? If that will give you a smile


I'm not sure any of my photos are useful for much of anything. 
Although they are handy when I can't find someone a good birthday 
present, I offer to let them pick a print out of the portfolio I carry 
around for showing off.



every A.M. then okay. That said I kind of liked it.

Aren't you glad I am back posting?


Yup, good to see you again.







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Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 23:34:00 -0700
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Subject: PESO Steller in the abstract
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Here's one that didn't go the way I had intended, but I rather like
the effect:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/42247285032/in/album-72157693982849042/ 




I'm actively interested in what others think/feel about it.

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Re: The Dog & Pony Show

[Gonz]

Thats for sure.  When AT was a monopoly, there was no innovation.
The princess phone was their "innovation"  Once they got broken up, it
was like a revolution.


On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:18 AM, William Robb
 wrote:
> Their strategy appears to aim to be the last man standing. I'm not sure how
> good it would be for the industry to only have one or two choices.
> Monopolies or near monopolies are never a good thing.
>
> bill
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2018, 11:39 PM Gonz,  wrote:
>
>> That is A LOT of money.  It can only be good for the industry, the
>> resulting tech war should bring some interesting new products.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 10:28 PM, Bill 
>> wrote:
>> > On 5/22/2018 9:17 PM, Gonz wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Wow, this is crazy... Sounds more than just throwing to see what
>> >> sticks...  I guess time will tell.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://petapixel.com/2018/05/22/sony-investing-9b-in-image-sensors-aims-to-be-top-camera-brand-by-2021/
>> >>
>> >
>> > They have a lot of money. It will be interesting to see if they can make
>> it
>> > stick to something.
>> >
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Re: PESO 2018 - 034, 035 - GDG

[Jack Davis]

In spite of a repeated web page
problem, it's good looking and
appears to be a comfortable size.
J
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 23, 2018, at 6:34 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> I made portraits of myself and my Moto Guzzi V7III Racer today, since I just 
> got back from having the suspension upgraded, new custom wheels and new tires 
> fitted. 
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/266gsf6
> full rez: https://farm1.staticflickr.com/950/41410073995_a696776303_o.jpg
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/266gseK
> full rez: https://farm1.staticflickr.com/949/28438935688_a4b4421348_o.jpg
> 
> enjoy!
> G
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> No matter where you go, go there on a Guzzi.
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Re: One more time

[ann sanfedele]

Paul -
when you bought from Amazon I"m guessing you bought from a listing that 
said "fulfillment by Amazon" If you had bought from a seller who was 
merely using Amazon as a platform that surely would not have happened.  
It's really weird. But  sure B would always be a better choiceanyway...


Still is very surprising - I'm not fond of Amazon, but the usual thing 
that happens here is that we get things in oversized boxes stuffed with 
bubble wrap

around something tiny that isn't breakable.

ann


On 5/23/2018 8:02 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I received lens number three today from Amazon and again it was in the Pentax box with 
no additional packaging. I again refused delivery. Amazon was apologetic and refunded 
my money. I ordered the same lens from B It will arrive Friday. (Because B 
does not collect Michigan sales tax, the tab was about $100 less. I used those funds to 
purchase the 67mm circular polarizer that I will need if I shoot cars with the lens.)
Paul



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Re: PESO 2018 - 034, 035 - GDG

[Paul Stenquist]

Beautiful machine.

Paul

> On May 23, 2018, at 9:34 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> I made portraits of myself and my Moto Guzzi V7III Racer today, since I just 
> got back from having the suspension upgraded, new custom wheels and new tires 
> fitted. 
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/266gsf6
> full rez: https://farm1.staticflickr.com/950/41410073995_a696776303_o.jpg
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/266gseK
> full rez: https://farm1.staticflickr.com/949/28438935688_a4b4421348_o.jpg
> 
> enjoy!
> G
> —
> No matter where you go, go there on a Guzzi.
> 
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PESO 2018 - 034, 035 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I made portraits of myself and my Moto Guzzi V7III Racer today, since I just 
got back from having the suspension upgraded, new custom wheels and new tires 
fitted. 

https://flic.kr/p/266gsf6
full rez: https://farm1.staticflickr.com/950/41410073995_a696776303_o.jpg

https://flic.kr/p/266gseK
full rez: https://farm1.staticflickr.com/949/28438935688_a4b4421348_o.jpg

enjoy!
G
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PESO - outlines

[Igor PDML-StR]

Wonderful!
One of the best (if not the best)  in the series ("outlines"), and among 
the strongest overall.


Thanks for sharing!

Igor


Bruce Walker Wed, 23 May 2018 17:01:02 -0700 wrote:

I am adding to my Outlines project with results of working with
another model/dancer, Muirina Fae.


note: nsfw

https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/ITb2MbiN5o5M

645z, 90mm/2.8 macro at f/8, 1/125th sec, 200 iso.  Post just in
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Re: PESO - outlines

[Jack Davis]

I actually meant genre!
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 23, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> Beautiful pose by a class model!
> First with this Jon-rah. NICE!
> 
> J
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 23, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bruce Walker wrote:
>>> I am adding to my Outlines project with results of working with
>>> another model/dancer, Muirina Fae.
>> 
>> This one I quite like.  She's a beautiful model, making pretty shapes.
>> 
>> The rim lighting against the black does a wonderful job of separating the 
>> shape from the background, and the low key details on the front stand out 
>> against the black rather than looking drab against the white of the last one.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> note: nsfw
>>> 
>>> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/ITb2MbiN5o5M
>>> 
>>> 645z, 90mm/2.8 macro at f/8, 1/125th sec, 200 iso.  Post just in
>>> Lightroom Classic CC.
>>> 
>>> Hope you like.
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Re: PESO - outlines

[Jack Davis]

Beautiful pose by a class model!
First with this Jon-rah. NICE!

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 23, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Bruce Walker wrote:
>> I am adding to my Outlines project with results of working with
>> another model/dancer, Muirina Fae.
> 
> This one I quite like.  She's a beautiful model, making pretty shapes.
> 
> The rim lighting against the black does a wonderful job of separating the 
> shape from the background, and the low key details on the front stand out 
> against the black rather than looking drab against the white of the last one.
> 
> 
>> 
>> note: nsfw
>> 
>> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/ITb2MbiN5o5M
>> 
>> 645z, 90mm/2.8 macro at f/8, 1/125th sec, 200 iso.  Post just in
>> Lightroom Classic CC.
>> 
>> Hope you like.
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Re: PESO - outlines

[Larry Colen]

Bruce Walker wrote:

I am adding to my Outlines project with results of working with
another model/dancer, Muirina Fae.


This one I quite like.  She's a beautiful model, making pretty shapes.

The rim lighting against the black does a wonderful job of separating 
the shape from the background, and the low key details on the front 
stand out against the black rather than looking drab against the white 
of the last one.





note: nsfw

https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/ITb2MbiN5o5M

645z, 90mm/2.8 macro at f/8, 1/125th sec, 200 iso.  Post just in
Lightroom Classic CC.

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Re: PESO - outlines

[Paul Stenquist]

Excellent! A great set.

Paul

> On May 23, 2018, at 8:00 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> I am adding to my Outlines project with results of working with
> another model/dancer, Muirina Fae.
> 
> note: nsfw
> 
> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/ITb2MbiN5o5M
> 
> 645z, 90mm/2.8 macro at f/8, 1/125th sec, 200 iso.  Post just in
> Lightroom Classic CC.
> 
> Hope you like.
> 
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One more time

[Paul Stenquist]

I received lens number three today from Amazon and again it was in the Pentax 
box with no additional packaging. I again refused delivery. Amazon was 
apologetic and refunded my money. I ordered the same lens from B It will 
arrive Friday. (Because B does not collect Michigan sales tax, the tab was 
about $100 less. I used those funds to purchase the 67mm circular polarizer 
that I will need if I shoot cars with the lens.) 
Paul
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PESO - outlines

[Bruce Walker]

I am adding to my Outlines project with results of working with
another model/dancer, Muirina Fae.

note: nsfw

https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/ITb2MbiN5o5M

645z, 90mm/2.8 macro at f/8, 1/125th sec, 200 iso.  Post just in
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Re: PDML Photo Annual 2018 - Stunning

[Toralf Lund]

On 23/05/18 00:48, Larry Colen wrote:



Toralf Lund wrote:


I tend to look for interesting, too, but hardly ever seem to spot any,
so what can you do? :-)


I've been spending a few decades perfecting boring.

Really? Did you find it interesting?

- T








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Re: Fw: :Re: Test: (for Brian)

[John]

They did the corporate version of "Have you tried unplugging it and plugging it 
back in again?" It's "fixed", but they haven't got a clue why.


On 5/23/2018 01:55, Alan C wrote:
My ISP said they did a "refresh" & everything is now back to normal but they 
won't (or can't?) say what the problem was.


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Re: PESO Steller in the abstract

[Jack Davis]

I was Immediately certain you weren't hoping it would fly before you "got
the shot,"
I've always been very perceptive. HA!
I've, also, suffered the same fate numerous times.
J
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 23, 2018, at 11:58 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Jack, Dan and Don for the feedback.
> 
> 
> Jack Davis wrote:
>> Try a faster shutter, Larry.
> 
> I'll settle for a slower bird.
> 
> This is the shot I was trying to get:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/42247282532/in/album-72157693982849042/
> 
> 
>> J
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2018, at 11:34 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here's one that didn't go the way I had intended, but I rather like the 
>>> effect:
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/42247285032/in/album-72157693982849042/
>>> 
>>> I'm actively interested in what others think/feel about it.
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Re: PESO Steller in the abstract

[Larry Colen]

Thanks Jack, Dan and Don for the feedback.


Jack Davis wrote:

Try a faster shutter, Larry.


I'll settle for a slower bird.

This is the shot I was trying to get:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/42247282532/in/album-72157693982849042/



J

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Here's one that didn't go the way I had intended, but I rather like the effect:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/42247285032/in/album-72157693982849042/

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Re: PESO Steller in the abstract

[Larry Colen]

Donald Guthrie wrote:

My thought (not original, credit Rick Sammon) is: one blurred photo is a
mistake (admitted in your case) 15 blurred pix is a style. So an exhibit
of 10 sharp photos and 10 blurred photos might work. I like the color


I don't know if I could come up with ten mistakes like that, but if 
we're going on that theme, there was this one where I bumped the green 
button and the shutter speed got reset to two seconds. I thought it was 
OK, but other people really like it:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/28912774054/

Then there is this one, which was actually deliberate:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/42305806561/in/album-72157697166301715/


and abstract part of the photo but I don't know of the use for such a
photo. Printed large and hung on the wall? If that will give you a smile


I'm not sure any of my photos are useful for much of anything. Although 
they are handy when I can't find someone a good birthday present, I 
offer to let them pick a print out of the portfolio I carry around for 
showing off.



every A.M. then okay. That said I kind of liked it.

Aren't you glad I am back posting?


Yup, good to see you again.







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Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 23:34:00 -0700
From: Larry Colen 
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Subject: PESO Steller in the abstract
Message-ID: <5b050b58.5060...@red4est.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Here's one that didn't go the way I had intended, but I rather like
the effect:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/42247285032/in/album-72157693982849042/


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Re: The Dog & Pony Show

[William Robb]

Their strategy appears to aim to be the last man standing. I'm not sure how
good it would be for the industry to only have one or two choices.
Monopolies or near monopolies are never a good thing.

bill

On Tue, May 22, 2018, 11:39 PM Gonz,  wrote:

> That is A LOT of money.  It can only be good for the industry, the
> resulting tech war should bring some interesting new products.
>
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 10:28 PM, Bill 
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> > On 5/22/2018 9:17 PM, Gonz wrote:
> >>
> >> Wow, this is crazy... Sounds more than just throwing to see what
> >> sticks...  I guess time will tell.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://petapixel.com/2018/05/22/sony-investing-9b-in-image-sensors-aims-to-be-top-camera-brand-by-2021/
> >>
> >
> > They have a lot of money. It will be interesting to see if they can make
> it
> > stick to something.
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Re: PESO Steller in the abstract

[Jack Davis]

Donald, would only hanging 10 of 
each (sharp) and (soft) in the
circumstance that all 20 are of the
same scene. All but impossible in
this case or any of like composition.
Unless maybe they are paintings. :-)

J

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> On May 23, 2018, at 8:24 AM, Donald Guthrie  wrote:
> 
> My thought (not original, credit Rick Sammon) is: one blurred photo is a 
> mistake (admitted in your case) 15 blurred pix is a style. So an exhibit of 
> 10 sharp photos and 10 blurred photos might work. I like the color and 
> abstract part of the photo but I don't know of the use for such a photo. 
> Printed large and hung on the wall? If that will give you a smile every A.M. 
> then okay. That said I kind of liked it.
> 
> Aren't you glad I am back posting?
> 
> 
> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 23:34:00 -0700
>> From: Larry Colen 
>> To: Pentax-Discuss List 
>> Subject: PESO  Steller in the abstract
>> Message-ID: <5b050b58.5060...@red4est.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>> Here's one that didn't go the way I had intended, but I rather like the 
>> effect:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/42247285032/in/album-72157693982849042/
>> I'm actively interested in what others think/feel about it.
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Re: PPG is back online

[Igor PDML-StR]

Sorry, Dan,

I didn't read that message. I saw that it was working and wanted to alert 
those PDMLers who were concerned in the past few days.


As for the rest, - it looks like PPG is not among Ricoh marketing
team priorities for Pentax brand. It looks more like a liability at this 
point: they are afraid to cut it off completely (infuriating many 
Pentaxians), but they also don't want to spend any resources for support 
and moderation.
PPG was Asahi-Pentax's project that doesn't generate any direct revenue, 
and it became an unloved step-child of Ricoh.
(I suspect that most if not all of the PPG team have been long gone or 
moved to different roles.)



PPG was essentially a PR attempt for Pentax. I suspect, that it might not 
have been very successful from the business' point of view. I don't know 
if Asahi-Pentax or Ricoh had/has any measure of the popularity of that 
website, and of how much exposure it gets, -- to judge if it is worth 
their efforts. Also, I am not a marketing specialist, - so I don't know 
how such things could be measured (if at all).


I have a thought that if Pentax or Ricoh had bought one of the popular 
photo-hosting services (photo.net, flickr, ..) and used a portion of that 
platform to develop a separate Pentax-branded community (such as PPG), - 
they could've had a better chance for success and exposure.



But at the same time, that is a totally different area of business.
Obviously, Pentax wasn't prepared to diversify (too narrowly focused 
company, with only a few product categories). Ricoh might be in a better 
position, given the variety of products and services they provide.


Anyway,... Stay cool, be happy!


Igor



 Daniel J. Matyola Wed, 23 May 2018 07:31:19 -0700 wrote:

It had been off for about 5 days.
As I indicated in my post yesterday, both Bong and I were able to log in
yesterday.
They are 7 months behind in approving submissions.



Dan Matyola
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On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:

On Wed, 23 May 2018, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Dan and other have been worrying about PPG not being available.
While it wasn't responding just yesterday, - I just checked, - and it seems 
to be working again.


HTH,

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RE: PESO Steller in the abstract

[Donald Guthrie]

My thought (not original, credit Rick Sammon) is: one blurred photo is a 
mistake (admitted in your case) 15 blurred pix is a style. So an exhibit 
of 10 sharp photos and 10 blurred photos might work. I like the color 
and abstract part of the photo but I don't know of the use for such a 
photo. Printed large and hung on the wall? If that will give you a smile 
every A.M. then okay. That said I kind of liked it.


Aren't you glad I am back posting?




Message: 4
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 23:34:00 -0700
From: Larry Colen 
To: Pentax-Discuss List 
Subject: PESO  Steller in the abstract
Message-ID: <5b050b58.5060...@red4est.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Here's one that didn't go the way I had intended, but I rather like the 
effect:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/42247285032/in/album-72157693982849042/

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Re: PPG is back online

[Daniel J. Matyola]

It had been off for about 5 days.
As I indicated in my post yesterday, both Bong and I were able to log in
yesterday.
They are 7 months behind in approving submissions.


Dan Matyola
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On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

>
> Dan and other have been worrying about PPG not being available.
> While it wasn't responding just yesterday, - I just checked, - and it
> seems to be working again.
>
> HTH,
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> Igor
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PPG is back online

[Igor PDML-StR]

Dan and other have been worrying about PPG not being available.
While it wasn't responding just yesterday, - I just checked, - and it 
seems to be working again.


HTH,

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Re: Peso

[Jack Davis]

Thanks much, Dan!
J

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> On May 23, 2018, at 6:42 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
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> Nice catch!
> 
> 
> Dan Matyola
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> 
>> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 8:10 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Sparrow, ready to go!
>> 
>> From my familiar back fence.
>> 
>> 
>> Simply like the detail. (?)
>> 
>> 
>> From my perch on the patio chaise.
>> 
>> 
>> C?
>> 
>> 
>> 150-450
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for looking!
>> 
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18474568
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Re: PESO Steller in the abstract

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Actually, I like the effect as well.  It turned an action shot into an
abstract.


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On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 2:34 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> Here's one that didn't go the way I had intended, but I rather like the
> effect:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/42247285032/in/album-
> 72157693982849042/
>
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Re: Peso

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nice catch!


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On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 8:10 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:

>
> Sparrow, ready to go!
>
> From my familiar back fence.
>
>
> Simply like the detail. (?)
>
>
> From my perch on the patio chaise.
>
>
> C?
>
>
> 150-450
>
>
> Thanks for looking!
>
>
> J
>
>
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18474568
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Peso

[Jack Davis]

Sparrow, ready to go!

>From my familiar back fence.


Simply like the detail. (?)


>From my perch on the patio chaise.


C?


150-450


Thanks for looking!


J


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Re: :Re: Test: (for Brian)

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On May 23, 2018, at 6:48 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:

> Sounds familiar.  Our main telco (Telstra) had a serious outage yesterday and
> claim they don't know why.

I had a lot of trouble getting much to work at lunch time yesterday, wonder if 
it was related in some way.

> Fortunately I wan't affected by that but I've just spent another day without
> internet courtesy of the f***ed up system that is our National Broadband
> Network.  It's an fing joke!

We just had fibre installed last week.  It was like the Monty Python gas cooker 
sketch.  We were promised a one-day installation (normally there's a planning 
session followed by an installation a week or so later) but it ended up taking 
5 weeks due to screwups and faults at their end.

Having said that I think the broadband situation in this country is pretty 
good.  I think Spark (formerly Telecom) have a vested interest in getting 
everyone off the copper network.

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Re: PESO Steller in the abstract

[Jack Davis]

Try a faster shutter, Larry.
J

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> On May 22, 2018, at 11:34 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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> Here's one that didn't go the way I had intended, but I rather like the 
> effect:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/42247285032/in/album-72157693982849042/
> 
> I'm actively interested in what others think/feel about it.
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Re: PESO Silver-studded blue

[Toine]

Yes panorama's is an exception in Dutch, just like kano's in Dutch. In
Afrikaans it's also panorama's?

On 23 May 2018 at 08:22, Alan C  wrote:

> No, they were just trying to detract from inflated prices!
>
> I did some research: In Dutch & Afrikaans, an apostrophe is used if the
> singular word ends in a unstressed vowel to keep the sound long. If I
> understand this correctly, Panoramas would sound like "Panoramis" whereas
> Panorama's would sound like "Panoramaz". An Afrikaans plural which springs
> to
> mind is kano's, the plural of kano (canoe).
>
> Alan C
>
> -Original Message- From: mike wilson
> Sent: 23 May, 2018 7:39 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: :Re: PESO Silver-studded blue:
>
> All our greengocers must have Boer ancestry.
>
>
> On 23 May 2018 at 05:17 Alan C  wrote:
>>
>>
>> In Afrikaans they do that too & it has "infected" may English speakers.
>>
>> Alan C
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Toine
>> Sent: 22 May, 2018 9:52 PM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: PESO Silver-studded blue
>>
>> Ah yes. Never noticed this one. Panorama's is the correct spelling in
>> Dutch.
>>
>> On 22 May 2018 at 21:40, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>>
>> > P.s. That's a beautiful photo.
>> >
>> > Pps. There shouldn't be an apostrophe in "Panorama's" - you'll upset
>> > Chris. The apostrophe indicates a possessive or a contraction, not a
>> > plural.
>> >
>> > > On 22 May 2018, at 20:34, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> On 22 May 2018, at 20:05, Toine  wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> I like that idea of living in the UK, if it isn't a job as a window
>> > >> cleaner. In germany insects also dropped. Really no problems in the
>> > >> UK?
>> > >
>> > > This is where all the shit is these days.
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >>> On 22 May 2018 at 20:48, mike wilson  >
>> >>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> >  On 22 May 2018 at 17:08 Toine  wrote:
>> > 
>> > 
>> >  This one is almost gone, like all insects. Apparently all insects
>> > show a
>> >  70-80% decline in the last years. Can't remember the last time I >
>>  had
>> > to
>> >  clean my windshield from splashed insects.
>> > 
>> >  https://www.repiuk.nl/content/heideblauwtje/
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Come and live in the UK.  You can have a full time job between now
>> > >>> and
>> > >>> September.
>>
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Re: Fw: :Re: Test: (for Brian)

[Brian Walters]

> On 23 May 2018 at 15:55 Alan C  wrote:
> 
> 
> My ISP said they did a "refresh" & everything is now back to normal but they 
> won't (or can't?) say what the problem was.


Sounds familiar.  Our main telco (Telstra) had a serious outage yesterday and
claim they don't know why.

Fortunately I wan't affected by that but I've just spent another day without
internet courtesy of the f***ed up system that is our National Broadband
Network.  It's an fing joke!


Cheers
Brian

> 
> Alan C
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Brian Walters
> Sent: 21 May, 2018 10:47 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: :Re: Test:
> 
> > On 22 May 2018 at 03:49 Alan C  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > I discovered the most amazing thing. If I put a colon (:) at the beginning 
> > &
> > end of the subject line, it sends just fine.
> 
> 
> Very strange indeed.  I have to ask - what made you decide to try that?  By
> design or by accident?
> 
> Cheers
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
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> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> 
> 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: Brian Walters
> > Sent: 21 May, 2018 1:35 PM
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > Subject: Re: Fw: Test
> >
> > Hmmm - don't think I can help.  I don't use Windows Live Mail.  For normal
> > email
> > I use Thunderbird but for the PDML I use my lyons-ryan domain's web mail 
> > so
> > that
> > list messages don't get mixed up with other mail.
> >
> > Perhaps there are others who might have a better insight into the issue.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 21 May 2018 at 17:19 Alan C  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message- 
> > > From: Alan C
> > > Sent: 20 May, 2018 11:57 AM
> > > To: pdml@pdml.net
> > > Subject: Re: Test
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > I'm having e-mail problems.
> > >
> > > I can send using Windows Live Mail which I've always used but the 
> > > e-mails
> > > just vanish.
> > >
> > > The one you replied to was send directly from Vox Telecoms Webmail, not
> > > from
> > > the normal user's @lantic.
> > >
> > > I did mostly receive the other PDML posts OK but none from Jack Davis or
> > > Ann
> > > Sanfedele (I have to access those from the Archives). I have missed a
> > > couple
> > > of Bank e-mails too.
> > >
> > > At one stage I found I could send OK if I removed or simplified the
> > > Subject
> > > line but now that does,'t work any more. I can't even send to myself.
> > >
> > > I have now set the Vox Webmail to not delete after sending or receiving
> > > via
> > > Live Mail which may throw some light on the problem.
> > >
> > > Perhaps you have some suggestions?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> > >
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PESO Steller in the abstract

[Larry Colen]

Here's one that didn't go the way I had intended, but I rather like the 
effect:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/42247285032/in/album-72157693982849042/

I'm actively interested in what others think/feel about it.

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Re: PESO Silver-studded blue

[Alan C]

No, they were just trying to detract from inflated prices!

I did some research: In Dutch & Afrikaans, an apostrophe is used if the
singular word ends in a unstressed vowel to keep the sound long. If I
understand this correctly, Panoramas would sound like "Panoramis" whereas
Panorama's would sound like "Panoramaz". An Afrikaans plural which springs 
to

mind is kano's, the plural of kano (canoe).

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: mike wilson

Sent: 23 May, 2018 7:39 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: :Re: PESO Silver-studded blue:

All our greengocers must have Boer ancestry.


On 23 May 2018 at 05:17 Alan C  wrote:


In Afrikaans they do that too & it has "infected" may English speakers.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Toine

Sent: 22 May, 2018 9:52 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO Silver-studded blue

Ah yes. Never noticed this one. Panorama's is the correct spelling in
Dutch.

On 22 May 2018 at 21:40, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

> P.s. That's a beautiful photo.
>
> Pps. There shouldn't be an apostrophe in "Panorama's" - you'll upset
> Chris. The apostrophe indicates a possessive or a contraction, not a
> plural.
>
> > On 22 May 2018, at 20:34, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> >
> >> On 22 May 2018, at 20:05, Toine  wrote:
> >>
> >> I like that idea of living in the UK, if it isn't a job as a window
> >> cleaner. In germany insects also dropped. Really no problems in the 
> >> UK?

> >
> > This is where all the shit is these days.
> >
> >>
> >>> On 22 May 2018 at 20:48, mike wilson  
> >>> wrote:

> >>>
> >>>
>  On 22 May 2018 at 17:08 Toine  wrote:
> 
> 
>  This one is almost gone, like all insects. Apparently all insects
> show a
>  70-80% decline in the last years. Can't remember the last time I 
>  had

> to
>  clean my windshield from splashed insects.
> 
>  https://www.repiuk.nl/content/heideblauwtje/
> >>>
> >>> Come and live in the UK.  You can have a full time job between now 
> >>> and

> >>> September.


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