Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!

[Paul Sorenson]

Hhmmm.  I've just updated to 78.5.1 and have not experienced any of 
those problems.


-p

On 12/3/2020 8:36 PM, John wrote:
Changed the fonts, changed the icons and it keeps trying to force me 
to log in to Yahoo.




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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

[Alan C]

I'm surprised. That last time I came over there I accidentally left my 
Swiss Army Knife in my hand luggage & was forced to surrender it at OR 
Tambo Airport. "Sir, it's for your own safety". Eating irons were 
replaced by eating plastics.


Alan C

On 03-Dec-20 10:26 PM, mike wilson wrote:

If it has less than a 3.5inch blade, it's no problem.  I carry a knife most of 
the time.


On 03 December 2020 at 20:16 John  wrote:


Yeah. If I ever get the chance to visit again I plan to leave the pocket knife
the Army gave me at home.

http://www.badguystuff.com/images/benchmade9053_600x500.jpg

On 12/3/2020 10:23:51, mike wilson wrote:

Not legal here, unfortunately.


On 03 December 2020 at 12:13 Alan C  wrote:


Surprised you didn't mention the "cane gun" adaptation widely used by
spies & thugs.

Alan C

On 03-Dec-20 09:37 AM, mike wilson wrote:

I prefer a two-piece for self-defence.  Collapsed, you have effectively a 
weighted walking stick, à la Sherlock Holmes.  One adjustment and you have a 
quarterstaff, of little John fame.  I recommend the Benbo Traveller.


On 03 December 2020 at 01:41 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:


That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
makes a decent club, for self defense.

On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:

Use a bean bag…

I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a maglight 
holster

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7

It doubles as a nice walking stick.



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Re: PESO: Rediscovering the K-7

[Alan C]

I used a K7 (ex Mark Cassino) for 5 years until I upgraded to his K5. 
The K7 sensor is poor in low light & noisy above ISO400 but I found that 
used within its limitations it could give excellent results. TAV mode 
was useless with the ISO difficulty. The K5 solved that problem & so far 
I am very happy with its performance. I may yet upgrade to a K3 if I can 
find one at a bargain basement price.


Alan C

On 03-Dec-20 08:53 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

The K-7 and I never really took to each other and I got myself one of
the first K-5 ever sold in town. I hated the K-7's Samsung sensor, the
limited dynamic range and the noise in everything shot at more than 
ISO 100.


Yet, when I look at some of the photos I've taken with it, they have a
special quality about them. A certain crispness, the restrained 
colours...


Maybe the fact that I was less lazy, in those days, and made much more
use of primes, tripods, and low ISOs also has something to do with it.

Just came across this one and thought some of you might like it:

https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/entre-chien-et-loup-fotoralfbe/44605722 



Enjoy

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Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!

[ann sanfedele]

I knew there was I reason I keep declining the update...

but don't you tell it what fonts and background colors to use?

ann

On 12/3/2020 9:36 PM, John wrote:
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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

[John]

The lenses I really need to use it with (80-200/2.8 & 300/2.8) all have a 
separate foot & the lens rotates in the collar if I need to change the alignment.


On 12/3/2020 16:48:38, Ken Waller wrote:

An L bracket for the camera body can do the same thing without putting the
mass of the camera body off axis to the monopod making it more awkward to
handle.

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I mostly have it locked down but it makes it easy to switch from horizontal 
to vertical compositions. Also sometimes the study place for the foot is very 
much not directly under where I want the camera.


On December 3, 2020 12:00:38 PM PST, John  wrote:

I've never had much luck with ball heads on a monopod. Just too wobbly.
I like
the RC2 plate holder mounted directly to the end of the monopod.

Ball heads are great on a tripod, but I've just never gotten the hang
of using
one on a monopod.


On 12/2/2020 20:41:03, P. J. Alling wrote:

That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also

makes a

decent club, for self defense.

On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:

Use a bean bag…

I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a

maglight

holster

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7

It doubles as a nice walking stick.


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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

[John]

Wouldn't you just know it ... 3-5/8 inches.

On 12/3/2020 15:26:35, mike wilson wrote:

If it has less than a 3.5inch blade, it's no problem.  I carry a knife most of 
the time.


On 03 December 2020 at 20:16 John  wrote:


Yeah. If I ever get the chance to visit again I plan to leave the pocket knife
the Army gave me at home.

http://www.badguystuff.com/images/benchmade9053_600x500.jpg

On 12/3/2020 10:23:51, mike wilson wrote:

Not legal here, unfortunately.


On 03 December 2020 at 12:13 Alan C  wrote:


Surprised you didn't mention the "cane gun" adaptation widely used by
spies & thugs.

Alan C

On 03-Dec-20 09:37 AM, mike wilson wrote:

I prefer a two-piece for self-defence.  Collapsed, you have effectively a 
weighted walking stick, à la Sherlock Holmes.  One adjustment and you have a 
quarterstaff, of little John fame.  I recommend the Benbo Traveller.


On 03 December 2020 at 01:41 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:


That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
makes a decent club, for self defense.

On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:

Use a bean bag…

I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a maglight 
holster

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7

It doubles as a nice walking stick.





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Re: Enablement!

[Paul Stenquist]

I have a Pentax 12-24 that I will gladly part with.

Paul

> On Dec 3, 2020, at 6:11 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> I did a little research before buying and Sigma seems to have made a number 
> of similar lenses.  It looks like at least two slightly different variable 
> aperture versions from f4.0~5.6, though the only real information available 
> is on the latest one with the HSM focus motor, and the f3.5 constant aperture 
> version that I picked up.
> 
> It seems to be the best optically based on the reviews I've read, and based 
> on the pluses and minuses, probably better than the other 3rd party variable 
> aperture APS-c ultra wide zooms in the range from 10mm to 2Xmm, maybe even 
> better than the low end Nikon and Canon offerings.
> 
> So far I haven't shot anything except stupid tests.
> 
> I went out for a Drive to scenic Stonington CT., but didn't see anything I 
> wanted to get out of the car for, I can't say it's real cold here, but it 
> isn't exactly warm either...
> 
>> On 12/3/2020 2:48 PM, John wrote:
>> I have that lens. I think I have that lens - there were two versions, an f/4 
>> & an f/3.5 - f/4, but I think they're both really f/4. I don't know which 
>> "version" I have.
>> 
>> It was part of a deal where I got the 10-20mm, a 35mm f/1.4 and the "Bigma" 
>> all used for $1K.
>> 
>> It's a VERY wide angle of view at 10mm (110° IIRC).
>> 
>>> On 12/2/2020 17:37:42, P. J. Alling wrote:
>>> Fun fact, Thunderbird wants to correct Enablement to Enfeeblement, could be 
>>> more right than I want to admit.
>>> 
>>> Back to my original point.  I just received my "new", refurbished actually, 
>>> Sigma 10-20mm f3.5 from KEH.com along with a Pentax silver (MZ/ZX), strap, 
>>> with snap pockets, which are just the right size for SD cards.  Both are 
>>> now proudly on my K-3.  It's a late birthday present early Christmas 
>>> present to myself.
>>> 
>>> I'll post a mini review after I have a chance to play with it a bit.
>>> 
>>> However, my first impression is pretty favorable.  This lens is one fat 
>>> stubby little sucker.  The finish is typical Sigma, feels solid in the 
>>> hand, rubberized everywhere,  focus and zoom rings are well damped, there 
>>> are no hard stops on the focus ring.
>>> 
>>> Just off the bat, it would be nice if there was a mark on the zoom ring 
>>> where the lens is at it's minimum physical length since that's somewhere 
>>> between the 17mm and 14mm focal length marks.
>>> 
>>> I've fired a couple of shots using the K-3 just to see if everything is 
>>> working correctly and it seems to be.
>>> 
>>> So why didn't I get the Pentax DA* 11-18 f2.8 or Pentax DA 12-24 f4.0? Well 
>>> price of  course in the case of the former.  The KEH.com refurbished Sigma 
>>> was Less than a quarter the cost. The 12-24 has now become difficult to 
>>> find, and the price for a "New" Sigma lens was outstanding so  I have a new 
>>> adventure.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!

[John]

Changed the fonts, changed the icons and it keeps trying to force me to log in 
to Yahoo.



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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

[Ken Waller]

An L bracket for the camera body can do the same thing without putting the mass 
of the camera body off axis to the monopod making it more awkward to handle.


-Original Message-
>From: l...@red4est.com
>Sent: Dec 3, 2020 3:54 PM
>Subject: Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter
>
>I mostly have it locked down but it makes it easy to switch from horizontal to 
>vertical compositions. Also sometimes the study place for the foot is very 
>much not directly under where I want the camera.
>
>On December 3, 2020 12:00:38 PM PST, John  wrote:
>>I've never had much luck with ball heads on a monopod. Just too wobbly.
>>I like 
>>the RC2 plate holder mounted directly to the end of the monopod.
>>
>>Ball heads are great on a tripod, but I've just never gotten the hang
>>of using 
>>one on a monopod.
>>
>>
>>On 12/2/2020 20:41:03, P. J. Alling wrote:
>>> That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
>>makes a 
>>> decent club, for self defense.
>>> 
>>> On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>
> Use a bean bag…
 I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a
>>maglight 
 holster

 https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7

 It doubles as a nice walking stick.


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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

[mike wilson]

If it has less than a 3.5inch blade, it's no problem.  I carry a knife most of 
the time.

> On 03 December 2020 at 20:16 John  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeah. If I ever get the chance to visit again I plan to leave the pocket 
> knife 
> the Army gave me at home.
> 
> http://www.badguystuff.com/images/benchmade9053_600x500.jpg
> 
> On 12/3/2020 10:23:51, mike wilson wrote:
> > Not legal here, unfortunately.
> > 
> >> On 03 December 2020 at 12:13 Alan C  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Surprised you didn't mention the "cane gun" adaptation widely used by
> >> spies & thugs.
> >>
> >> Alan C
> >>
> >> On 03-Dec-20 09:37 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> >>> I prefer a two-piece for self-defence.  Collapsed, you have effectively a 
> >>> weighted walking stick, à la Sherlock Holmes.  One adjustment and you 
> >>> have a quarterstaff, of little John fame.  I recommend the Benbo 
> >>> Traveller.
> >>>
>  On 03 December 2020 at 01:41 "P. J. Alling"  
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>  That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
>  makes a decent club, for self defense.
> 
>  On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> >> On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> >>
> >> Use a bean bag…
> > I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a 
> > maglight holster
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7
> >
> > It doubles as a nice walking stick.

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Re: Enablement!

[P. J. Alling]

I did a little research before buying and Sigma seems to have made a 
number of similar lenses.  It looks like at least two slightly different 
variable aperture versions from f4.0~5.6, though the only real 
information available is on the latest one with the HSM focus motor, and 
the f3.5 constant aperture version that I picked up.


It seems to be the best optically based on the reviews I've read, and 
based on the pluses and minuses, probably better than the other 3rd 
party variable aperture APS-c ultra wide zooms in the range from 10mm to 
2Xmm, maybe even better than the low end Nikon and Canon offerings.


So far I haven't shot anything except stupid tests.

I went out for a Drive to scenic Stonington CT., but didn't see anything 
I wanted to get out of the car for, I can't say it's real cold here, but 
it isn't exactly warm either...


On 12/3/2020 2:48 PM, John wrote:
I have that lens. I think I have that lens - there were two versions, 
an f/4 & an f/3.5 - f/4, but I think they're both really f/4. I don't 
know which "version" I have.


It was part of a deal where I got the 10-20mm, a 35mm f/1.4 and the 
"Bigma" all used for $1K.


It's a VERY wide angle of view at 10mm (110° IIRC).

On 12/2/2020 17:37:42, P. J. Alling wrote:
Fun fact, Thunderbird wants to correct Enablement to Enfeeblement, 
could be more right than I want to admit.


Back to my original point.  I just received my "new", refurbished 
actually, Sigma 10-20mm f3.5 from KEH.com along with a Pentax silver 
(MZ/ZX), strap, with snap pockets, which are just the right size for 
SD cards.  Both are now proudly on my K-3.  It's a late birthday 
present early Christmas present to myself.


I'll post a mini review after I have a chance to play with it a bit.

However, my first impression is pretty favorable.  This lens is one 
fat stubby little sucker.  The finish is typical Sigma, feels solid 
in the hand, rubberized everywhere,  focus and zoom rings are well 
damped, there are no hard stops on the focus ring.


Just off the bat, it would be nice if there was a mark on the zoom 
ring where the lens is at it's minimum physical length since that's 
somewhere between the 17mm and 14mm focal length marks.


I've fired a couple of shots using the K-3 just to see if everything 
is working correctly and it seems to be.


So why didn't I get the Pentax DA* 11-18 f2.8 or Pentax DA 12-24 
f4.0? Well price of  course in the case of the former.  The KEH.com 
refurbished Sigma was Less than a quarter the cost. The 12-24 has now 
become difficult to find, and the price for a "New" Sigma lens was 
outstanding so  I have a new adventure.






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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

[lrc]

On December 3, 2020 12:08:59 PM PST, John  wrote:
>I think mine's the same - about the size and weight of an aluminum
>baseball bat.
>
>This on the "business" end:
>
>https://www.amazon.com/Manfrotto-323-Connect-Adapter-200PL-14/dp/B000JLK5PU
>
>Never want to use it that way, but I could if I had to.
>
>That's another thing I hate about getting old, being afraid of
>strangers.

Strangers are still afraid of me, but it's getting harder to find people 
stranger than me.


>
>On 12/3/2020 09:12:19, P. J. Alling wrote:
>> I've got you there, mine's made of aluminum.
>> 
>> On 12/3/2020 1:57 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>>
 On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:41 PM, P. J. Alling
> wrote:

 That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
>makes a 
 decent club, for self defense.
>>> That thought has crossed my mind. Without the ballhead, and with all
>but the 
>>> smallest section extended it has similar size, weight, balance and
>handling to 
>>> a bokken, though I hesitate to consider how well the carbon fiber
>would hold 
>>> up to actually striking anything with it.
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

[lrc]

I mostly have it locked down but it makes it easy to switch from horizontal to 
vertical compositions. Also sometimes the study place for the foot is very much 
not directly under where I want the camera.

On December 3, 2020 12:00:38 PM PST, John  wrote:
>I've never had much luck with ball heads on a monopod. Just too wobbly.
>I like 
>the RC2 plate holder mounted directly to the end of the monopod.
>
>Ball heads are great on a tripod, but I've just never gotten the hang
>of using 
>one on a monopod.
>
>
>On 12/2/2020 20:41:03, P. J. Alling wrote:
>> That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
>makes a 
>> decent club, for self defense.
>> 
>> On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>>
 On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:

 Use a bean bag…
>>> I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a
>maglight 
>>> holster
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7
>>>
>>> It doubles as a nice walking stick.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
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>>> l...@red4est.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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Re: OT steak and potatoes

[lrc]

To be honest that was probably a $10 bottle of plonk from Costco.  The best 
wine that I've had in a while was from el vaquero a few weeks back 
photographing my friend. Unfortunately I made the tactical mistake of not 
having a designated driver so I want able to make full use of the tasting room.

On December 3, 2020 10:24:27 AM PST, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>
>
>Larry, while I love California and over the years we've enjoyed most of
>
>its wine regions, this particular wine appears to be available in TX
>stores:
>https://specsonline.com/shop/wine/beringer-sonoma-pinot-noir/
>(This is a TX analogue of BevMo)
>
>Cheers to "Global Economy"! ;-)
>
>... And bon appétit!
>
>Igor
>
>
>lrc Thu, 03 Dec 2020 09:33:09 -0800 wrote:
>
>
>On December 3, 2020 8:02:42 AM PST, "Daniel J. Matyola" wrote:
>>The potatoes sound interesting, but I love the way the steak is done.
>
>
>Tri tip, a central California staple that everyone else calls bottom 
>sirloin.
>I was very happy with the way it turned out, especially since I've very
>
>rarely,
>until recently cooked things like steaks and roasts.
>
>>I
>>also like the "fruit" in the background.
>
>Another advantage of living in this part of the world.
>
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Re: Cold and foggy

[John]

I tried that. No response. I tried temporarily allowing the various scripts, 
adding them one at a time and trying again ...


... until I got down to where there was nothing left but doubleclick.net and 
ads-twitter.com, at which point I gave up.


On 12/1/2020 13:11:43, ann sanfedele wrote:
john I'm in firefox  I just clicked on individual thumbnails and they appeared  
- no ads, nothing from doubleclick..


I only looked at Bob's photos... the other links  did have ads

ann

On 12/1/2020 12:15 PM, John wrote:

Sixteen thumbnails, but no way to view individual photos.

I refuse to allow scripts from doubleclick.net or ads-twitter.com

On 11/30/2020 16:17:56, Bob Pdml wrote:
Went for a walk up to Cissbury Ring today, out through a rather beautiful and 
empty valley, up to the hill fort and back by an unusual straight track which 
leads from the hill fort to the sea and was probably a drove way at some 
point in the pre-Roman times. The track is apparently the baseline of the 
local Roman centuriation, which was their grid system for marking field 
boundaries. This is all still reflected in the town’s road layout.


https://adobe.ly/2BXDULF

https://strava.app.link/Eb92N2crQbb

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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

[John]

Yeah. If I ever get the chance to visit again I plan to leave the pocket knife 
the Army gave me at home.


http://www.badguystuff.com/images/benchmade9053_600x500.jpg

On 12/3/2020 10:23:51, mike wilson wrote:

Not legal here, unfortunately.


On 03 December 2020 at 12:13 Alan C  wrote:


Surprised you didn't mention the "cane gun" adaptation widely used by
spies & thugs.

Alan C

On 03-Dec-20 09:37 AM, mike wilson wrote:

I prefer a two-piece for self-defence.  Collapsed, you have effectively a 
weighted walking stick, à la Sherlock Holmes.  One adjustment and you have a 
quarterstaff, of little John fame.  I recommend the Benbo Traveller.


On 03 December 2020 at 01:41 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:


That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
makes a decent club, for self defense.

On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:

Use a bean bag…

I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a maglight 
holster

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7

It doubles as a nice walking stick.





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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

[John]

I think mine's the same - about the size and weight of an aluminum baseball bat.

This on the "business" end:

https://www.amazon.com/Manfrotto-323-Connect-Adapter-200PL-14/dp/B000JLK5PU

Never want to use it that way, but I could if I had to.

That's another thing I hate about getting old, being afraid of strangers.

On 12/3/2020 09:12:19, P. J. Alling wrote:

I've got you there, mine's made of aluminum.

On 12/3/2020 1:57 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:41 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:

That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also makes a 
decent club, for self defense.
That thought has crossed my mind. Without the ballhead, and with all but the 
smallest section extended it has similar size, weight, balance and handling to 
a bokken, though I hesitate to consider how well the carbon fiber would hold 
up to actually striking anything with it.


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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

[John]

I've never had much luck with ball heads on a monopod. Just too wobbly. I like 
the RC2 plate holder mounted directly to the end of the monopod.


Ball heads are great on a tripod, but I've just never gotten the hang of using 
one on a monopod.



On 12/2/2020 20:41:03, P. J. Alling wrote:
That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also makes a 
decent club, for self defense.


On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:

Use a bean bag…
I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a maglight 
holster


https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7

It doubles as a nice walking stick.


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Re: PESO: Rediscovering the K-7

[Bruce Walker]

That's lovely light, Ralf. A fine shot.

The K-7 was the immediate successor to the K20D, with a very similar
(but updated) CMOS sensor. I was very fond of my K20D and shot with it
for a good seven years. I really loved the rather filmic look to the
images -- I don't have the same issue with grain/noise that gets other
photographers into a tizzy.

I sold it cheap last year to a young budding photography student and
it's still being lovingly used.


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> The K-7 and I never really took to each other and I got myself one of
> the first K-5 ever sold in town. I hated the K-7's Samsung sensor, the
> limited dynamic range and the noise in everything shot at more than ISO 100.
>
> Yet, when I look at some of the photos I've taken with it, they have a
> special quality about them. A certain crispness, the restrained colours...
>
> Maybe the fact that I was less lazy, in those days, and made much more
> use of primes, tripods, and low ISOs also has something to do with it.
>
> Just came across this one and thought some of you might like it:
>
> https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/entre-chien-et-loup-fotoralfbe/44605722
>
> Enjoy
>
> Ralf
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Re: OT: Viewbug

[John]

I think Viewbug is one of those sites where YOU are the product *AND* you have 
to pay them for the privilege of your work used without compensation.


On 12/3/2020 05:27:09, Henk Terhell wrote:
Instagram is OK for showing pics to family and friends on their phones without 
getting the junk messages of facebook.
Professional photographers tend to use instagram for promoting their work, but 
the limits in presentation are dreadful.
Flickr is still my preference as it doesn't limit the format/size of your photos 
and the groups function gives you many possibilities to find people with common 
interests of subjects.

For $66/y I've got there now 60 GB of photos (> 8 K) with unlimited storage.

Henk

Op 2020-12-02 om 22:32 schreef Toine:

Uploaded one photo and after some digging I found it. No way to change
the title. Only option is to participate in challenges. Contests are
paid subscription only. It all feels a little strange. Instagram is
the king of strangeness.
Many years ago I tried 1x.com and they managed to piss me off with
their curation bla bla. Removing photo's from 1x.com results in a
lifetime ban which was the primary reason to remove all my photo's.

I now use 500px on and off and haven't decided on instagram.

On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 21:33, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:



HAR!

That reminded me of “I don’t want to belong to any club that will accept
me as a member”.

Fun fact: That quote is attributed to Groucho Marx (circa 1949), but
apparently it was printed much earlier: in "The Chicago Daily
Tribune" in 1891 (and then other newspapers):
“...  I don’t want to have anything to do with a company that would take
a risk on me.”
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/04/18/groucho-resigns/


Cheers,

Igor




Daniel J. Matyola Tue, 01 Dec 2020 11:17:53 -0800 wrote:

MARK!

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On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 2:13 PM Bruce Walker 
wrote:


It's unlikely that a popular
photography site, having seen my photos, would still want to feature
them.


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Re: Enablement!

[John]

On 12/2/2020 17:37:42, P. J. Alling wrote:
Fun fact, Thunderbird wants to correct Enablement to Enfeeblement, could be more 
right than I want to admit.




PS: You don't want to know what Thunderbird thinks some of the names on this 
list should be.



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Re: Enablement!

[John]

I have that lens. I think I have that lens - there were two versions, an f/4 & 
an f/3.5 - f/4, but I think they're both really f/4. I don't know which 
"version" I have.


It was part of a deal where I got the 10-20mm, a 35mm f/1.4 and the "Bigma" all 
used for $1K.


It's a VERY wide angle of view at 10mm (110° IIRC).

On 12/2/2020 17:37:42, P. J. Alling wrote:
Fun fact, Thunderbird wants to correct Enablement to Enfeeblement, could be more 
right than I want to admit.


Back to my original point.  I just received my "new", refurbished actually, 
Sigma 10-20mm f3.5 from KEH.com along with a Pentax silver (MZ/ZX), strap, with 
snap pockets, which are just the right size for SD cards.  Both are now proudly 
on my K-3.  It's a late birthday present early Christmas present to myself.


I'll post a mini review after I have a chance to play with it a bit.

However, my first impression is pretty favorable.  This lens is one fat stubby 
little sucker.  The finish is typical Sigma, feels solid in the hand, rubberized 
everywhere,  focus and zoom rings are well damped, there are no hard stops on 
the focus ring.


Just off the bat, it would be nice if there was a mark on the zoom ring where 
the lens is at it's minimum physical length since that's somewhere between the 
17mm and 14mm focal length marks.


I've fired a couple of shots using the K-3 just to see if everything is working 
correctly and it seems to be.


So why didn't I get the Pentax DA* 11-18 f2.8 or Pentax DA 12-24 f4.0? Well 
price of  course in the case of the former.  The KEH.com refurbished Sigma was 
Less than a quarter the cost.   The 12-24 has now become difficult to find, and 
the price for a "New" Sigma lens was outstanding so  I have a new adventure.





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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

[mike wilson]

Not legal here, unfortunately.

> On 03 December 2020 at 12:13 Alan C  wrote:
> 
> 
> Surprised you didn't mention the "cane gun" adaptation widely used by 
> spies & thugs.
> 
> Alan C
> 
> On 03-Dec-20 09:37 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> > I prefer a two-piece for self-defence.  Collapsed, you have effectively a 
> > weighted walking stick, à la Sherlock Holmes.  One adjustment and you have 
> > a quarterstaff, of little John fame.  I recommend the Benbo Traveller.
> >
> >> On 03 December 2020 at 01:41 "P. J. Alling"  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
> >> makes a decent club, for self defense.
> >>
> >> On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>  On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
>  Use a bean bag…
> >>> I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a 
> >>> maglight holster
> >>>
> >>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7
> >>>
> >>> It doubles as a nice walking stick.

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PESO: Rediscovering the K-7

[Ralf R Radermacher]

The K-7 and I never really took to each other and I got myself one of
the first K-5 ever sold in town. I hated the K-7's Samsung sensor, the
limited dynamic range and the noise in everything shot at more than ISO 100.

Yet, when I look at some of the photos I've taken with it, they have a
special quality about them. A certain crispness, the restrained colours...

Maybe the fact that I was less lazy, in those days, and made much more
use of primes, tripods, and low ISOs also has something to do with it.

Just came across this one and thought some of you might like it:

https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/entre-chien-et-loup-fotoralfbe/44605722

Enjoy

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Re: OT steak and potatoes

[Igor PDML-StR]

Larry, while I love California and over the years we've enjoyed most of 
its wine regions, this particular wine appears to be available in TX stores:

https://specsonline.com/shop/wine/beringer-sonoma-pinot-noir/
(This is a TX analogue of BevMo)

Cheers to "Global Economy"! ;-)

... And bon appétit!

Igor


lrc Thu, 03 Dec 2020 09:33:09 -0800 wrote:


On December 3, 2020 8:02:42 AM PST, "Daniel J. Matyola" wrote:

The potatoes sound interesting, but I love the way the steak is done.



Tri tip, a central California staple that everyone else calls bottom 
sirloin.
I was very happy with the way it turned out, especially since I've very 
rarely,

until recently cooked things like steaks and roasts.


I
also like the "fruit" in the background.


Another advantage of living in this part of the world.


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Re: Cold and foggy

[Bob Pdml]

> On 3 Dec 2020, at 17:39, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 30.11.20 um 22:17 schrieb Bob Pdml:
>> Went for a walk up to Cissbury Ring today
> 
> Just had another look at the whole series and they're all so beautiful
> but my favourite is still number 4, the row of houses, because it is so
> quintessentially English. Reminds me of a particular spot in Canterbury.
> 
> Ralf
> 

Thanks. That is a place called Broadwater which was the main town in the area 
for most of the last thousand years. Worthing was a small fishing hamlet in the 
parish of Broadwater, not even on the maps, but has now swallowed the village.
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Re: Cold and foggy

[Bob Pdml]

Thank you. What is even more English is that the four people in the picture 
were speaking an East European language, and were certainly not dressed for the 
conditions. If the conditions had worsened they would have had a very miserable 
time.


> On 3 Dec 2020, at 17:20, Stanley Halpin  wrote:
> 
> #11 looks like England to me. I look at it and can just so vividly feel 
> myself there. Nice!
> 
> stan
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2020, at 4:39 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> Really enjoyed the whole set - but of course I especially like #14 for some 
>> reason :-)
>> 
>> #11 my favorite scenic of the lot. and that portrait of the cow is a 
>> standout for me too.. I think she's in love.
>> 
>> ann
>> 
>>> https://adobe.ly/2BXDULF
>>> 
>>> https://strava.app.link/Eb92N2crQbb
>>> 
>>> https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/cissbury-ring
>>> 


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Re: Cold and foggy

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 30.11.20 um 22:17 schrieb Bob Pdml:

Went for a walk up to Cissbury Ring today


Just had another look at the whole series and they're all so beautiful
but my favourite is still number 4, the row of houses, because it is so
quintessentially English. Reminds me of a particular spot in Canterbury.

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Re: OT steak and potatoes

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On December 3, 2020 8:02:42 AM PST, "Daniel J. Matyola"  
wrote:
>The potatoes sound interesting, but I love the way the steak is done. 

Tri tip, a central California staple that everyone else calls bottom sirloin.  
I was very happy with the way it turned out, especially since I've very rarely, 
until recently cooked things like steaks and roasts.

>I
>also like the "fruit" in the background.

Another advantage of living in this part of the world.

>
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>
>
>On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 12:35 AM Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>> Got into a discussion about dinner tonight. I kind of like how this
>phone
>> snap turned out
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Chb2BGtm8iVzE3mU6
>>
>> I’ve been experimenting with my own version of hash browns.  Tonight
>I ran
>> two potatoes and an onion through the grater on the food processor,
>mixed
>> with olive oil then precooked them in the microwave for 15 minutes or
>so. I
>> browned them in a skillet, and when I had carmelized a sufficient
>> percentage melted some extra sharp cheddar (coastal from costco) over
>> them.  I figure that they’re mental health food.
>> FWIW, the salad is out of the frame to camera left, and the fruit I
>had
>> with dinner is in the background.
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Re: Cold and foggy

[Stanley Halpin]

#11 looks like England to me. I look at it and can just so vividly feel myself 
there. Nice!

stan

> On Nov 30, 2020, at 4:39 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Really enjoyed the whole set - but of course I especially like #14 for some 
> reason :-)
> 
> #11 my favorite scenic of the lot. and that portrait of the cow is a standout 
> for me too.. I think she's in love.
> 
> ann
> 
> On 11/30/2020 4:17 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:
>> Went for a walk up to Cissbury Ring today, out through a rather beautiful 
>> and empty valley, up to the hill fort and back by an unusual straight track 
>> which leads from the hill fort to the sea and was probably a drove way at 
>> some point in the pre-Roman times. The track is apparently the baseline of 
>> the local Roman centuriation, which was their grid system for marking field 
>> boundaries. This is all still reflected in the town’s road layout.
>> 
>> https://adobe.ly/2BXDULF
>> 
>> https://strava.app.link/Eb92N2crQbb
>> 
>> https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/cissbury-ring
>> 
>> 
>> 

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Re: OT steak and potatoes

[Daniel J. Matyola]

The potatoes sound interesting, but I love the way the steak is done.  I
also like the "fruit" in the background.

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On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 12:35 AM Larry Colen  wrote:

> Got into a discussion about dinner tonight. I kind of like how this phone
> snap turned out
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Chb2BGtm8iVzE3mU6
>
> I’ve been experimenting with my own version of hash browns.  Tonight I ran
> two potatoes and an onion through the grater on the food processor, mixed
> with olive oil then precooked them in the microwave for 15 minutes or so. I
> browned them in a skillet, and when I had carmelized a sufficient
> percentage melted some extra sharp cheddar (coastal from costco) over
> them.  I figure that they’re mental health food.
> FWIW, the salad is out of the frame to camera left, and the fruit I had
> with dinner is in the background.
>
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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

[Bob Pdml]

James Smith & Sons, the umbrella shop in Holborn, London, still show 
swordsticks on their shopfront, although I think it’s highly unlikely that 
they’d make or sell you one. 

Unless you’re John Steed, of course.

> On 3 Dec 2020, at 14:21, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> You can own a lot of different firearms legally in the US but disguised 
> weapons are one frowned by most states and localities. You can buy a license 
> from the Feds for a gun cane and wait about a year for them to decide that 
> you're not a felon or particularly dangerous, but the locals will still 
> probably take a dim view. Bashing someones skull in is preferable I 
> guess.  I don't know of anyplace where a sword cane is legal, except 
> as a curio, though I'm sure some one will tell me.
> 
>> On 12/3/2020 7:13 AM, Alan C wrote:
>> Surprised you didn't mention the "cane gun" adaptation widely used by spies 
>> & thugs.
>> 
>> Alan C
>> 
>>> On 03-Dec-20 09:37 AM, mike wilson wrote:
>>> I prefer a two-piece for self-defence. Collapsed, you have effectively a 
>>> weighted walking stick, à la Sherlock Holmes.  One adjustment and you have 
>>> a quarterstaff, of little John fame.  I recommend the Benbo Traveller.
>>> 
 On 03 December 2020 at 01:41 "P. J. Alling"  
 wrote:
 
 
 That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
 makes a decent club, for self defense.
 
 On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> Use a bean bag…
> I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a 
> maglight holster
> 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7
> 
> It doubles as a nice walking stick.
>> 
>> 
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Re: OT steak and potatoes

[P. J. Alling]

I got around that by creating a separate persona to deal with Google, it 
exists solely to allow me to use Google's phone features and see 
"naughty" YouTube videos.  Naughty has a different connotation for 
YouTube than most other places.


On 12/3/2020 6:03 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Can’t see this without allowing Google access to my photos.

Paul


On Dec 3, 2020, at 12:35 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

Got into a discussion about dinner tonight. I kind of like how this phone snap 
turned out

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Chb2BGtm8iVzE3mU6

I’ve been experimenting with my own version of hash browns.  Tonight I ran two 
potatoes and an onion through the grater on the food processor, mixed with 
olive oil then precooked them in the microwave for 15 minutes or so. I browned 
them in a skillet, and when I had carmelized a sufficient percentage melted 
some extra sharp cheddar (coastal from costco) over them.  I figure that 
they’re mental health food.
FWIW, the salad is out of the frame to camera left, and the fruit I had with 
dinner is in the background.

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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

[P. J. Alling]

You can own a lot of different firearms legally in the US but disguised 
weapons are one frowned by most states and localities. You can buy a 
license from the Feds for a gun cane and wait about a year for them to 
decide that you're not a felon or particularly dangerous, but the locals 
will still probably take a dim view. Bashing someones skull in is 
preferable I guess.  I don't know of anyplace where a sword cane 
is legal, except as a curio, though I'm sure some one will tell me.


On 12/3/2020 7:13 AM, Alan C wrote:
Surprised you didn't mention the "cane gun" adaptation widely used by 
spies & thugs.


Alan C

On 03-Dec-20 09:37 AM, mike wilson wrote:
I prefer a two-piece for self-defence. Collapsed, you have 
effectively a weighted walking stick, à la Sherlock Holmes.  One 
adjustment and you have a quarterstaff, of little John fame.  I 
recommend the Benbo Traveller.


On 03 December 2020 at 01:41 "P. J. Alling" 
 wrote:



That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
makes a decent club, for self defense.

On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:

Use a bean bag…
I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a 
maglight holster


https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7

It doubles as a nice walking stick.




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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

[P. J. Alling]

I've got you there, mine's made of aluminum.

On 12/3/2020 1:57 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:41 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:

That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also makes a 
decent club, for self defense.

That thought has crossed my mind. Without the ballhead, and with all but the 
smallest section extended it has similar size, weight, balance and handling to 
a bokken, though I hesitate to consider how well the carbon fiber would hold up 
to actually striking anything with it.

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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

[Bob Pdml]

Capt. Sir Richard Francis Burton, one of my great heroes of the Ripping Yarns 
variety, was the finest swordsman in Europe, literally as well as 
metaphorically, and always used a heavy metal walking stick to keep his sword 
arm strong.

In the good old days you could have your walking stick made with kind of 
knobbles or large knurls along the length so that if you were approached by a 
ruffian, a member of the working classes or a foreigner it was a simple matter 
to run the knobbly bits swiftly and forcefully across their shins or their 
skull and they would think twice in future about breaking the social distancing 
code.

https://youtu.be/HtRGeyznv7k



> On 3 Dec 2020, at 07:37, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> I prefer a two-piece for self-defence.  Collapsed, you have effectively a 
> weighted walking stick, à la Sherlock Holmes.  One adjustment and you have a 
> quarterstaff, of little John fame.  I recommend the Benbo Traveller. 
> 
>> On 03 December 2020 at 01:41 "P. J. Alling"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also 
>> makes a decent club, for self defense.
>> 
>>> On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>> 
 On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
 
 Use a bean bag…
>>> I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a maglight 
>>> holster
>>> 
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7
>>> 
>>> It doubles as a nice walking stick.

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Re: OT steak and potatoes

[Bob Pdml]

That’s very similar to pommes Macaire, which uses chives rather than onion, and 
sometime a mashed baked potato (without the skin) rather than a boiled or 
steamed potato.

Mashed potato with caramelised onions piled on top is classic, and of course if 
you have boiled cabbage or similar greens lying around then bubble and squeak 
must be on the menu.


> On 3 Dec 2020, at 12:04, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Larry, my wife, Ann, makes what we call "mashed & bashed" potatoes. Boil & 
> mash the potatoes, then mix in some chopped onion & "bash" into cakes. Coat 
> in flour & fry until crisp. Yummy!
> 
> Alan C
> 
>> On 03-Dec-20 07:34 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> Got into a discussion about dinner tonight. I kind of like how this phone 
>> snap turned out
>> 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Chb2BGtm8iVzE3mU6
>> 
>> I’ve been experimenting with my own version of hash browns.  Tonight I ran 
>> two potatoes and an onion through the grater on the food processor, mixed 
>> with olive oil then precooked them in the microwave for 15 minutes or so. I 
>> browned them in a skillet, and when I had carmelized a sufficient percentage 
>> melted some extra sharp cheddar (coastal from costco) over them.  I figure 
>> that they’re mental health food.
>> FWIW, the salad is out of the frame to camera left, and the fruit I had with 
>> dinner is in the background.
>> 
>> --
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>> l...@red4est.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

[Alan C]

Surprised you didn't mention the "cane gun" adaptation widely used by 
spies & thugs.


Alan C

On 03-Dec-20 09:37 AM, mike wilson wrote:

I prefer a two-piece for self-defence.  Collapsed, you have effectively a 
weighted walking stick, à la Sherlock Holmes.  One adjustment and you have a 
quarterstaff, of little John fame.  I recommend the Benbo Traveller.


On 03 December 2020 at 01:41 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:


That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
makes a decent club, for self defense.

On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:

Use a bean bag…

I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a maglight 
holster

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7

It doubles as a nice walking stick.



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Re: OT steak and potatoes

[Alan C]

Larry, my wife, Ann, makes what we call "mashed & bashed" potatoes. Boil 
& mash the potatoes, then mix in some chopped onion & "bash" into cakes. 
Coat in flour & fry until crisp. Yummy!


Alan C

On 03-Dec-20 07:34 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

Got into a discussion about dinner tonight. I kind of like how this phone snap 
turned out

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Chb2BGtm8iVzE3mU6

I’ve been experimenting with my own version of hash browns.  Tonight I ran two 
potatoes and an onion through the grater on the food processor, mixed with 
olive oil then precooked them in the microwave for 15 minutes or so. I browned 
them in a skillet, and when I had carmelized a sufficient percentage melted 
some extra sharp cheddar (coastal from costco) over them.  I figure that 
they’re mental health food.
FWIW, the salad is out of the frame to camera left, and the fruit I had with 
dinner is in the background.

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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

[mike wilson]

I prefer a two-piece for self-defence.  Collapsed, you have effectively a 
weighted walking stick, à la Sherlock Holmes.  One adjustment and you have a 
quarterstaff, of little John fame.  I recommend the Benbo Traveller. 

> On 03 December 2020 at 01:41 "P. J. Alling"  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also 
> makes a decent club, for self defense.
> 
> On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> >
> >> On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> >>
> >> Use a bean bag…
> > I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a maglight 
> > holster
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7
> >
> > It doubles as a nice walking stick.

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Re: OT steak and potatoes

[Paul Stenquist]

Can’t see this without allowing Google access to my photos.

Paul

> On Dec 3, 2020, at 12:35 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> Got into a discussion about dinner tonight. I kind of like how this phone 
> snap turned out
> 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Chb2BGtm8iVzE3mU6
> 
> I’ve been experimenting with my own version of hash browns.  Tonight I ran 
> two potatoes and an onion through the grater on the food processor, mixed 
> with olive oil then precooked them in the microwave for 15 minutes or so. I 
> browned them in a skillet, and when I had carmelized a sufficient percentage 
> melted some extra sharp cheddar (coastal from costco) over them.  I figure 
> that they’re mental health food.
> FWIW, the salad is out of the frame to camera left, and the fruit I had with 
> dinner is in the background.
> 
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> l...@red4est.com
> 
> 
> 
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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

[Paul Stenquist]

I responded to the wrong post. It’s Larry’s fried potatoes pic that google is 
holding hostage.

Paul

> On Dec 3, 2020, at 6:00 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Can’t see this without allowing Google access to all my photos!
> 
> Paul
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2020, at 1:57 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
 On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:41 PM, P. J. Alling  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also makes a 
>>> decent club, for self defense.
>> 
>> That thought has crossed my mind. Without the ballhead, and with all but the 
>> smallest section extended it has similar size, weight, balance and handling 
>> to a bokken, though I hesitate to consider how well the carbon fiber would 
>> hold up to actually striking anything with it.
>> 
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>> l...@red4est.com
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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

[Paul Stenquist]

Can’t see this without allowing Google access to all my photos!

Paul

> On Dec 3, 2020, at 1:57 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:41 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
>> 
>> That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also makes a 
>> decent club, for self defense.
> 
> That thought has crossed my mind. Without the ballhead, and with all but the 
> smallest section extended it has similar size, weight, balance and handling 
> to a bokken, though I hesitate to consider how well the carbon fiber would 
> hold up to actually striking anything with it.
> 
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Re: OT: Viewbug

[Henk Terhell]

Instagram is OK for showing pics to family and friends on their phones 
without getting the junk messages of facebook.
Professional photographers tend to use instagram for promoting their 
work, but the limits in presentation are dreadful.
Flickr is still my preference as it doesn't limit the format/size of 
your photos and the groups function gives you many possibilities to find 
people with common interests of subjects.

For $66/y I've got there now 60 GB of photos (> 8 K) with unlimited storage.

Henk

Op 2020-12-02 om 22:32 schreef Toine:

Uploaded one photo and after some digging I found it. No way to change
the title. Only option is to participate in challenges. Contests are
paid subscription only. It all feels a little strange. Instagram is
the king of strangeness.
Many years ago I tried 1x.com and they managed to piss me off with
their curation bla bla. Removing photo's from 1x.com results in a
lifetime ban which was the primary reason to remove all my photo's.

I now use 500px on and off and haven't decided on instagram.

On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 21:33, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:



HAR!

That reminded me of “I don’t want to belong to any club that will accept
me as a member”.

Fun fact: That quote is attributed to Groucho Marx (circa 1949), but
apparently it was printed much earlier: in "The Chicago Daily
Tribune" in 1891 (and then other newspapers):
“...  I don’t want to have anything to do with a company that would take
a risk on me.”
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/04/18/groucho-resigns/


Cheers,

Igor




Daniel J. Matyola Tue, 01 Dec 2020 11:17:53 -0800 wrote:

MARK!

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 2:13 PM Bruce Walker 
wrote:


It's unlikely that a popular
photography site, having seen my photos, would still want to feature
them.


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