re: OT: Fancy Camera Strap

2023-02-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> From: Richard Dell 
> 
> On January 30, 2023 10:05:18 PM EST, Godfrey DiGiorgi 
>  wrote:
>> Heh … Mine is usually set to about 46". Longer than that and the camera sits 
>> too low, swings around too much for me. :)
>> 
> That may be height dependent  ... 
> I am 6 ft (1.83m), I like the camera just below my elbow if on my side (left),
> swung to my back it sits in small of back, and doesn't swing.

Hmm. I'm just shy of 6' myself, with a long torso. I tend to carry my cameras 
the same way. Probably just differences in arm length, shoulders, etc, along 
with personal preferences. :)

>> I have anchors fitted to most of my cameras, so I just swap the Leash to 
>> whatever I need to use it on. (I actually have three of them, for tripods 
>> and second camera carry…). 
>> 
> I spent way too much time finding various brands of "anchors" compatible 
> with the StrapToIt, most needed minor knife blade adjustments.

I have a bunch of Peak Design anchors. They come in sets of two with an 
Arca-Swiss compatible camera plate, and the anchors can be fitted to the camera 
plate without interfering with the plate's function on a tripod. The PD plates 
are thin and can be left fitted to the camera all the time, unless I want to 
put the camera into a snugly fitted half case. One of my half-cases (The "Jason 
Cui model" for the Leica CL) includes an externally accessible tripod screw 
mount too. 

All choices, and there are lots of good ones! :)

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Re: How good is old gear?

2023-02-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
There's a reason why I'm so delighted with my 1954 Kodak Retina IIc. :)

G
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> On Jan 16, 2023, at 12:27 AM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> 
> I know we are all impressed by the quality of modern equipment: I was given a 
> lesson today in what our older kit could produce.  In
> researching an article I am writing, I went back to an image taken on a 
> Voigtlander Vito CD 35mm rangefinder camera, the first
> camera I ever owned.  Scanned some years ago on an Epson V500, I made an 
> inkjet print 39x25cm, and the detail is so good the
> portholes on a ship 300 metres away moving at 25 knots and taken from a small 
> boat are tack sharp.
> No wonder I don't need  to go shopping, not even for Pentax!
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Re: OT: Fancy Camera Strap

2023-02-01 Thread Comcast
Yes, that’s correct. So I can mount the camera on the tripod with the strap 
attached. Since the trap is a sling it’s quite long, so I sometimes boop the 
strap over my head when using the tripod. It provides insurance againt spills. 
Paul

> On Feb 1, 2023, at 5:43 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> Not sure I understand. Does your Arco type plate have an additional tripod 
> socket on the plate itself so you can leave the plate in place & screw the 
> Black Rapid's connector into the plate?
> 
>> On 2/1/2023 4:53 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> The Black Rapid attaches to a tripod socket as well. I bought an Arco type 
>> tripod plate that includes a tripod socket adjacent. It remains on the 
>> camera full time.
>> Paul
 On Feb 1, 2023, at 3:51 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Looks like the target market is photographers who use sling straps that 
>>> attach to the tripod socket on the bottom of a camera. One problem with 
>>> those is you have to disconnect the strap to put the camera on a tripod.
>>> 
>>> My Sun-Sniper strap clips on to the ring for a Manfrotto RC2 adapter, but I 
>>> still have to UN-clip to mount the camera on a tripod.
>>> 
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Re: How good is old gear?

2023-02-01 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 01.02.23 um 23:30 schrieb Sandy Harris:

There are some older lenses which have more aperture blades than most
modern ones, good for bokeh. Jupiter 9 85mm f2 (~1960s Russian copy of
a ~1930s Zeiss design) has 15 & this m42 Pentax is the only lens I've
ever heard of with 18.


The Meyer Goerlitz/Pentacon 300 and 500 mm lenses had 23 blades.

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Re: OT: Fancy Camera Strap

2023-02-01 Thread John Sessoms
Not sure I understand. Does your Arco type plate have an additional 
tripod socket on the plate itself so you can leave the plate in place & 
screw the Black Rapid's connector into the plate?


On 2/1/2023 4:53 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

The Black Rapid attaches to a tripod socket as well. I bought an Arco type 
tripod plate that includes a tripod socket adjacent. It remains on the camera 
full time.

Paul


On Feb 1, 2023, at 3:51 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

Looks like the target market is photographers who use sling straps that attach 
to the tripod socket on the bottom of a camera. One problem with those is you 
have to disconnect the strap to put the camera on a tripod.

My Sun-Sniper strap clips on to the ring for a Manfrotto RC2 adapter, but I 
still have to UN-clip to mount the camera on a tripod.



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Re: OT Rabbit hole

2023-02-01 Thread ann sanfedele

JOhn
Yes, itis annoying that they don't give you the actual correct answers 
in therms of what is going on...  maddening..
I wonder  if doing a screen shot of the photo itself , save the file, 
and then doing an image search on google would result

in a captioned photo..

ann

On 2/1/2023 4:56 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
... and another thing - when you get to the end of the game and 
receive the results it should have some kind of captions to tell you 
something about the photo besides how wrong you were about the year it 
was taken.


Some of them are pretty obvious. I got one of the guy running with the 
Olympic Torch in front of a bunch of NAZI storm troopers - 1936 Berlin 
Olympics; and one of Mussolini on a reviewing stand with ol' Adolph 
stiffly lurking in the background ... so Rome 1934 BEFORE Hitler 
eclipsed Mussolini.


I'm having more trouble with later images. The ones that look to me 
like they were taken in the 2000s were either taken a decade earlier 
or a decade later.


And a lot of street scenes from the late 40s to the early 60s all look 
the same. After the mid-60s if it's got a gas station sign in it, I 
can get kind of close based on the prices.


On 2/1/2023 8:48 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
That is really weird..  I only saw one photo that I thought was in 
the USa and I didn't recognize where it was.. had no idea where the 
really old photos
were taken .. I did nail one photo for 1000 points but I dont 
remember what it was now..


does the quiz know your location and intentionally show photos that 
are less likely to be recognized? hmmm


ann

On 2/1/2023 8:43 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 01.02.23 um 14:14 schrieb ann sanfedele:
If it is pop culture stuff in the USA I'm an ignoramus too.. 
interesting

about what you see I saw nothing from the USA..


All photos I've been shown were clearly from the USA and I've been off
by ten years with all but one.

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Re: How good is old gear?

2023-02-01 Thread Sandy Harris
There are some older lenses which have more aperture blades than most
modern ones, good for bokeh. Jupiter 9 85mm f2 (~1960s Russian copy of
a ~1930s Zeiss design) has 15 & this m42 Pentax is the only lens I've
ever heard of with 18.
https://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/Takumar-200mm-F3.5.html
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Re: OT Rabbit hole

2023-02-01 Thread John Sessoms
... and another thing - when you get to the end of the game and receive 
the results it should have some kind of captions to tell you something 
about the photo besides how wrong you were about the year it was taken.


Some of them are pretty obvious. I got one of the guy running with the 
Olympic Torch in front of a bunch of NAZI storm troopers - 1936 Berlin 
Olympics; and one of Mussolini on a reviewing stand with ol' Adolph 
stiffly lurking in the background ... so Rome 1934 BEFORE Hitler 
eclipsed Mussolini.


I'm having more trouble with later images. The ones that look to me like 
they were taken in the 2000s were either taken a decade earlier or a 
decade later.


And a lot of street scenes from the late 40s to the early 60s all look 
the same. After the mid-60s if it's got a gas station sign in it, I can 
get kind of close based on the prices.


On 2/1/2023 8:48 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
That is really weird..  I only saw one photo that I thought was in the 
USa and I didn't recognize where it was.. had no idea where the really 
old photos
were taken .. I did nail one photo for 1000 points but I dont remember 
what it was now..


does the quiz know your location and intentionally show photos that are 
less likely to be recognized? hmmm


ann

On 2/1/2023 8:43 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 01.02.23 um 14:14 schrieb ann sanfedele:

If it is pop culture stuff in the USA I'm an ignoramus too.. interesting
about what you see I saw nothing from the USA..


All photos I've been shown were clearly from the USA and I've been off
by ten years with all but one.

Ralf

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Re: OT: Fancy Camera Strap

2023-02-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
The Black Rapid attaches to a tripod socket as well. I bought an Arco type 
tripod plate that includes a tripod socket adjacent. It remains on the camera 
full time.

Paul

> On Feb 1, 2023, at 3:51 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> Looks like the target market is photographers who use sling straps that 
> attach to the tripod socket on the bottom of a camera. One problem with those 
> is you have to disconnect the strap to put the camera on a tripod.
> 
> My Sun-Sniper strap clips on to the ring for a Manfrotto RC2 adapter, but I 
> still have to UN-clip to mount the camera on a tripod.
> 
> This looks like it will allow you to mount to the tripod without having to 
> remove the strap. I'd have to replace all my Manfrotto mounts with Arca 
> Swiss, but I think I'm kinda headed that way anyway.
> 
> Looks like they made their goal (more than made their goal - about 4.5x so 
> far).
> 
> Noting that "Rewards aren't guaranteed", I wonder when it will be available 
> to just buy one retail?
> 
>> On 1/30/2023 9:11 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>> I looked at that project. The neat part of the base plate is that it takes 
>> the load off the standard lugs (not designed for that kind of carry) and 
>> puts the load at the base which allows the camera to lay flat more reliably.
>> It's primarily targeted to work with an SLR or largish EVF camera's shape 
>> and largish lenses. It would be mostly useless with the different form 
>> factor and relatively small/light lenses of a Leica M, for instance.
>> I use the Peak Design Leash strap, which max out at about 145cm (57 inches) 
>> (plus a couple cm for the anchor bits). It's light, very strong, and easy to 
>> use cross body, as well as easily length adjustable to suit your body and 
>> preferences. It can be taken on and off a camera in a couple of seconds. A 
>> nice strap!
>> G
 On Jan 30, 2023, at 5:30 PM, Richard Dell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've always carried my cameras like that ...
>>> you just need a longer than normal strap, no fancy base bracket.
>>> Also use an ancient Galen Rowell chest pouch
>>> as a waist pack to secure same setup at my side when not scrambling.
>>> 
>>> (though I would love to find a good source for long straps,
>>> mine I found in a drugstore in Williansport, PA in late '80s,
>>> bought out their stock when I went back a year later,
>>> never found a better strap sinc, though I have shopped)
>>> 
>>> On January 30, 2023 8:16:05 PM EST, "Daniel J. Matyola" 
>>>  wrote:
 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/spinn-design/spinn-cp-camera-carrying-reimagined
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Re: OT Rabbit hole

2023-02-01 Thread John Sessoms
I wonder how they score them? Looks like it's 1000 if you get it right 
on the year & 900+ if you get within one year, ... but I wonder how much 
they deduct per year.


But it IS a rabbit hole!

On 2/1/2023 8:43 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 01.02.23 um 14:14 schrieb ann sanfedele:

If it is pop culture stuff in the USA I'm an ignoramus too.. interesting
about what you see I saw nothing from the USA..


All photos I've been shown were clearly from the USA and I've been off
by ten years with all but one.

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Re: OT Rabbit hole

2023-02-01 Thread John Sessoms
3375 - got within 1 year on 3 of 5, but was off by 18 years on one (I 
thought 1932 and it was 1950 and 6 years on the other 2005/2011).


On 1/31/2023 2:02 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

Well, I scored 3437.  What did you get?  

-p

On 1/31/2023 12:23 AM, mike wilson wrote:
  A game that shows you a photo and you have to guess the year it was 
taken.




  https://www.chronophoto.app/web.html
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Re: OT: Fancy Camera Strap

2023-02-01 Thread John Sessoms
Looks like the target market is photographers who use sling straps that 
attach to the tripod socket on the bottom of a camera. One problem with 
those is you have to disconnect the strap to put the camera on a tripod.


My Sun-Sniper strap clips on to the ring for a Manfrotto RC2 adapter, 
but I still have to UN-clip to mount the camera on a tripod.


This looks like it will allow you to mount to the tripod without having 
to remove the strap. I'd have to replace all my Manfrotto mounts with 
Arca Swiss, but I think I'm kinda headed that way anyway.


Looks like they made their goal (more than made their goal - about 4.5x 
so far).


Noting that "Rewards aren't guaranteed", I wonder when it will be 
available to just buy one retail?


On 1/30/2023 9:11 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I looked at that project. The neat part of the base plate is that it takes the 
load off the standard lugs (not designed for that kind of carry) and puts the 
load at the base which allows the camera to lay flat more reliably.

It's primarily targeted to work with an SLR or largish EVF camera's shape and 
largish lenses. It would be mostly useless with the different form factor and 
relatively small/light lenses of a Leica M, for instance.

I use the Peak Design Leash strap, which max out at about 145cm (57 inches) 
(plus a couple cm for the anchor bits). It's light, very strong, and easy to 
use cross body, as well as easily length adjustable to suit your body and 
preferences. It can be taken on and off a camera in a couple of seconds. A nice 
strap!

G


On Jan 30, 2023, at 5:30 PM, Richard Dell  wrote:

I've always carried my cameras like that ...
you just need a longer than normal strap, no fancy base bracket.
Also use an ancient Galen Rowell chest pouch
as a waist pack to secure same setup at my side when not scrambling.

(though I would love to find a good source for long straps,
mine I found in a drugstore in Williansport, PA in late '80s,
bought out their stock when I went back a year later,
never found a better strap sinc, though I have shopped)

On January 30, 2023 8:16:05 PM EST, "Daniel J. Matyola"  
wrote:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/spinn-design/spinn-cp-camera-carrying-reimagined
?

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One hour of Ernst Haas pictures

2023-02-01 Thread Henk Terhell
New on YouTube: a one hour slideshow of pictures of Ernst Haas, with much
of his work in New York. Very entertaining stuff!
https://youtu.be/usK14kiwTXM

Henk
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Re: OT: What is Art?

2023-02-01 Thread Bill

On 2/1/2023 12:45 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Following up on the recent discussion here about what is "art,' there is
an  interesting case between Hermes and and an NFT artist over whether
using Hermes bags in an NFT violates the trademark rights of Hermes or is a
free-standing work of art, (consisting entirely of images of Birkin purses).

https://observer.com/2023/01/hermes-is-going-to-court-over-metabirkin-nfts-in-a-landmark-trademark-case/

It appears art in the NFT age is becoming whatever one can rip off. Note 
the NFT trading cards put out recently by a failed reality TV star that 
consisted almost entirely of stolen images.


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Re: OT Rabbit hole

2023-02-01 Thread ann sanfedele
Ok I did it again this morning.. and did screen shots of my answers  got 
3387  with one 1000 pointer -


Here is what I saw:

(1) map of holland on wall - happy people  1945  I got this one right 
on  end of WWII so 1000 pts
(2) USA 1950  looks like arizona or nevada..  I guessed 1954 the womens 
clothes and the camera bag kid was carrying did the decade for me

(3) I guessed 1928 answer was 1921  dk where taken
(4) funeral shot.. dk where .. I guessed 1930s it was 1926  but I had 
the event right - death of RUdolph Valentino (I looked it up later)
(5) I guessed 1995 - lt was 1992  -street scene narrow streets all 
Asians in street and all signage in Asian characters - tall modern 
building in background.


I got 3387  - this was my 4th try at the quiz .. earlier I didnt even 
crack 2000


But where does it show you the locations? That is the exact answers? 
disappointing...


ann


On 2/1/2023 3:23 AM, mike wilson wrote:

Yet most of the pictures I get to see seem to be more centred upon the USA, or 
things relating to it like the Vietnam war.

On 31/01/2023 18:15 ann sanfedele  wrote:

  
This is clearly a better quiz for you guys on the other side of the

pond.  Also better for guys who can id vehicles ages in street scenes..

Interesting thing about fashions.. there are differences for same time
periods across countries.. so that poses a problem for
us over here..

bottom line.. I really sucked at it.

ann



On 1/31/2023 1:23 AM, mike wilson wrote:

   A game that shows you a photo and you have to guess the year it was taken.



   https://www.chronophoto.app/web.html

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Re: OT Rabbit hole

2023-02-01 Thread ann sanfedele
That is really weird..  I only saw one photo that I thought was in the 
USa and I didn't recognize where it was.. had no idea where the really 
old photos
were taken .. I did nail one photo for 1000 points but I dont remember 
what it was now..


does the quiz know your location and intentionally show photos that are 
less likely to be recognized? hmmm


ann

On 2/1/2023 8:43 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 01.02.23 um 14:14 schrieb ann sanfedele:

If it is pop culture stuff in the USA I'm an ignoramus too.. interesting
about what you see I saw nothing from the USA..


All photos I've been shown were clearly from the USA and I've been off
by ten years with all but one.

Ralf

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Re: OT Rabbit hole

2023-02-01 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 01.02.23 um 14:14 schrieb ann sanfedele:

If it is pop culture stuff in the USA I'm an ignoramus too.. interesting
about what you see I saw nothing from the USA..


All photos I've been shown were clearly from the USA and I've been off
by ten years with all but one.

Ralf

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Re: OT Rabbit hole

2023-02-01 Thread ann sanfedele
If it is pop culture stuff in the USA I'm an ignoramus too..  
interesting about what you see I saw nothing from the USA.. it is rather 
intriguing I may go back to it now and then.. However, it can't help 
that between 1960  and 1980 I had no TV..  but funny that you posted 
this quiz at the same time that I put a photo on
FB, including our private PDML page that asked where was I when I took 
the photo :-)   asked people answering to comment without revealing the name
of the city to everyone  to message me privately with the name or say 
something that would show they knew without naming the city exactly.


ann

On 2/1/2023 3:23 AM, mike wilson wrote:

Yet most of the pictures I get to see seem to be more centred upon the USA, or 
things relating to it like the Vietnam war.

On 31/01/2023 18:15 ann sanfedele  wrote:

  
This is clearly a better quiz for you guys on the other side of the

pond.  Also better for guys who can id vehicles ages in street scenes..

Interesting thing about fashions.. there are differences for same time
periods across countries.. so that poses a problem for
us over here..

bottom line.. I really sucked at it.

ann



On 1/31/2023 1:23 AM, mike wilson wrote:

   A game that shows you a photo and you have to guess the year it was taken.



   https://www.chronophoto.app/web.html

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Re: OT Rabbit hole

2023-02-01 Thread mike wilson
Yet most of the pictures I get to see seem to be more centred upon the USA, or 
things relating to it like the Vietnam war.
> On 31/01/2023 18:15 ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
>  
> This is clearly a better quiz for you guys on the other side of the 
> pond.  Also better for guys who can id vehicles ages in street scenes..
> 
> Interesting thing about fashions.. there are differences for same time 
> periods across countries.. so that poses a problem for
> us over here..
> 
> bottom line.. I really sucked at it.
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/31/2023 1:23 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> >   A game that shows you a photo and you have to guess the year it was taken.
> >
> >
> >
> >   https://www.chronophoto.app/web.html
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