Re: OT? Transfers

[P.J. Alling]

If you're going to be using the external HD for any real time work, 
you're going to need USB 3.0. The way to tell, if they followed 
convention, the USB 2.0 ports are white the 3.0 are blue.


On 12/9/2016 4:51 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
My computer is an HP 8000 PC with 4g ram and 1tb hard drive... got it 
refurbished without a lot of documentation -- I don't know if my USB 
ports are 2 or 3


Does it matter? The Sea-gate  2t is $89 at my Staples and I have a $16 
coupon from them...  Ijust want to backup everything on to it.. I only 
have200GB of hard drive free on the internal - need to prune but 
though it would be nice to backup first...


ann


On 12/9/2016 2:19 PM, John wrote:

That's pretty good.

I just checked the exchange rate & $99 CAD is $75 USD, so that's about
$15 USD cheaper than Staples is selling them here in the states.

On 12/9/2016 7:17 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:36 PM, ann sanfedele  
wrote:

Dave - how much is the 2tb at Stapleswhere you are?


Local store has them for $99 on sale


ann


On 12/8/2016 10:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote:


I have decided, now that i have the time, to transfer all of my CD 
and
DVD back up photo disks to an external HD, I need a new one anyway 
and
Staples has a nice Seagate 2tb on sale. I also have a number of 32 
gig
thumb drives i thought might also do the trick. Just curious would 
the

transfer rate be better from the CD player to externals as opposed to
thumb drives.?

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Re: OT? Transfers

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It kind of depends on the bus speed. However all other things being 
equal, the Thumb drives should be faster than a cd/dvd drive.  All 
things are seldom equal.


The one thing that is sure, the 32 gig thumb drives will require less 
user intervention assuming you packed as many files onto the thumb 
drives and dvd's as possible.


On 12/8/2016 10:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

I have decided, now that i have the time, to transfer all of my CD and
DVD back up photo disks to an external HD, I need a new one anyway and
Staples has a nice Seagate 2tb on sale. I also have a number of 32 gig
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Re: OT - "optical illusion" in the photo

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Hey, I beat my dog at chess four out of five times, he tends to knock 
over the board the fifth time so I count it a draw.


On 12/6/2016 1:55 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


That type "evaluation" reminds me of an old joke:
A guy comes to his friend's home and sees his friend playing chess 
with a dog.

- You've got a very smart dog: he plays chess!
- No, he's dumb! I am winning 5:2!

Igor

 P.J. Alling Tue, 06 Dec 2016 10:45:18 -0800 wrote:

It was obvious, to me at least, when I looked at it, that the photo 
was turned 90° to get the effect.



So the fact that there was no water was no surprise. It's clever, but 
not brilliant.


On 12/6/2016 12:10 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




This is a very interesting photo.
https://goo.gl/i3HY1H
There is no water in this photo.

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Re: Pentax 67 pentaprism issue

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It looks like an alien life form, maybe a WotW martian.  Annoying really.

On 12/5/2016 8:23 PM, Gonz wrote:

Fungus?  Can I clean this?  Help!

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It was obvious, to me at least, when I looked at it, that the photo was 
turned 90° to get the effect.


So the fact that there was no water was no surprise.  It's clever, but 
not brilliant.


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This is a very interesting photo.
https://goo.gl/i3HY1H
There is no water in this photo.

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Re: Buzzard Pair/Hint of Fall (Dan)

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That's hardly fair, Christie does cast a large shadow.

On 12/2/2016 11:03 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:37 PM, John  wrote:


I'll see your Chris Christie & raise you Pat McCrory.


McCrory is shy and self-effacing compared to Christie, and would disappear
into his shadow.

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Re: Buzzard Pair/Hint of Fall (Dan)

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Let's be fair, haven't all your recent Governors looked or acted like 
extras from the Sopranos?


On 12/2/2016 4:24 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 3:28 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:


you'll use New Jersey's entire supply of snark in one sitting.


You can't imagine how much extra snark we have lying around here.  What
other state could have a guy that looks and acts like an extra from the
Sopranos for its governor?

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Re: Buzzard Pair/Hint of Fall (Dan)

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Wait, isn't snark an inexhaustible resource in New Jersey?

On 12/2/2016 3:28 AM, Larry Colen wrote:


On December 1, 2016 9:49:31 PM PST, "Daniel J. Matyola"  
wrote:

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 3:31 PM, John  wrote:


We're using common names, while Dan is referring to Taxonomic
classification.


Not to be argumentative, but no, I'm also using a common name, just the
correct one.

Careful, if you keep that up you'll use New Jersey's entire supply of snark in 
one sitting.


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Re: Nice shot

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On 12/2/2016 11:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bill  wrote:


Brad Dodo


Brad Dodo -- now that's a real blast from the past!

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Sadly he wasn't the worst...

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Re: Nice shot

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That's not 'quite' the saddest attempt I've ever seen.

On 12/1/2016 6:32 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

Like this one?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Rvf9pxSORSA/UwENBC1UcgI/CW0/QH578WzUGjw/s1600/3+Selfportrait+as+a+drag.jpg

...

On 1 Dec 2016, at 18:25, Godfrey DiGiorgi 
> wrote:

That just means you haven't found the right female yet. Some of those 8,000 out 
there will respond: try the ones with a tattoo and five-o'clock shadow for 
better luck.

]'-)

G

On Dec 1, 2016, at 8:51 AM, Bob W-PDML 
> wrote:

I've tried to impress females by doing that, and it just doesn't work. No 
wonder there are only 8,000 of them left.

B

On 1 Dec 2016, at 16:49, Gonz 
> wrote:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BNbvse5DSoW/?taken-by=natgeo=en

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Re: PESO - Relaxed in La Jolla

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Hey, they worked cheap and there's paint on it.  Job Done!

On 12/1/2016 6:54 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

Rick Womer wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18316410=lg


Interesting angle Rick. I wouldn't employ the painters who did the railings
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Re: December PUG - Last Call

[P.J. Alling]

Just sent my boring submission, but then again it's supposed to be 
tranquil.


On 11/30/2016 4:02 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

I'll be closing submissions on Friday evening (Dec 2) - Sydney time.

Theme: Tranquility

As usual submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Full Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html


Cheers

Brian

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Re: Semi OT - vote for ann sanfedele's Budding crocus design please.. today Nov 30

[P.J. Alling]

Sorry, Ann.  It's not even close to midnight and the site tells me that 
voting is over.


On 11/30/2016 4:16 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
You DON"T have to log in... you do ahve to do it before, I guess, 
midnight nov 30th eastern USA time...


They have them arranged randomly so it is a bit of a pita to scroll 
down, but if you still love me please do it.. I could win a lot of fabric


it is SEMI OT because the photo the design was based on was take wint 
my K-5


Thanks much!

http://www.spoonflower.com/contest_voters_temp/new?contest_id=367


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Re: Peso-Sinister Looking Turkey Vulture

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I don't know how you can call Turkey Vulture sinister looking, all 
Turkey Vultures are sinister looking.  Unless you mean he's looking to 
his left, in which case nevermind...


On 11/30/2016 6:58 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
   
Yesterday P.M. with the 150-450.


Am impressed by this lens!

C?

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Re: Process & Scan

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Well, if Kennyboy recommends them they probably should be firebombed.   
Ok so not everything Kennyboy recommends is awful,  he just is.


On 11/28/2016 11:48 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

They are west coast but, North Coast Photo Services (NCPS). The same
place Ken Rockwell recommends. Their work is professional and top
notch. Their pricing is fairly reasonable too.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Collin Brendemuehl
 wrote:

Let me know if you find one. The lab that I used to use for E6 stopped
doing it. They only do C41 & traditional B now.
Plus, they lost their lease & I don't know if they're going to reopen in
a new location or not.



John,

I was just steered to this lab.

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Yes, but it's out of business...

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Re: Peso-Ring Bill Gull

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On 11/28/2016 1:02 PM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

Jack Davis wrote:

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1132
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Curious bokeh on the vegetation. Nice gull!

Malcolm




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Re: Peso-Ring Bill Gull

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He's very self satisfied looking don't you think?

On 11/28/2016 12:01 PM, Jack Davis wrote:


Odd composition post.
It doesn't say anything specific to me either.

C?
  
J


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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

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Auto correct hates me.

On 11/28/2016 10:58 AM, Alan C wrote:

Oh, dear, what can the matter be? Dear deer I imagine.

Alan C

-Original Message- From: P.J. Alling
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 5:15 PM
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Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

That reminds me of the woman who called into a talk radio show to
complain that the state had put the dear crossing signs in places with
too much traffic...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFCrJleggrI

On 11/28/2016 12:08 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

Thanks Alan,

I've always wondered when I see a deer crossing sign how the deer 
know to cross there ?


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: "Alan C" <c...@lantic.net>
Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'


Obviously in Bear country but it could be in many places I suppose. 
Those sort of signs are testament to the innovation of 
environmentalists where there is cause for concern. You won't find 
them in official handbooks. I can think of 3 ad hoc signs from 
around here. 1. "Hippo" signs after a couple of accidents at night. 
2. A "Crocodile" sign at Tzaneen (N of here) after one was run over. 
& 3. A "Birds - Slow" sign S of here where, for some reason, a lot 
of birds, especially doves, congregate on the road. Some people do 
care & one hopes the drivers take note.


Alan C

-Original Message- From: Ken Waller
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 10:26 PM
To: pentax list
Subject: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

An unusual sign I haven't seen before. Notice its bear, not bare. 
I've been

in all the United States
and don't recall seeing one before.

Where was it taken ?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315060

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Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

[P.J. Alling]

That reminds me of the woman who called into a talk radio show to 
complain that the state had put the dear crossing signs in places with 
too much traffic...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFCrJleggrI

On 11/28/2016 12:08 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

Thanks Alan,

I've always wondered when I see a deer crossing sign how the deer know 
to cross there ?


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: "Alan C" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'


Obviously in Bear country but it could be in many places I suppose. 
Those sort of signs are testament to the innovation of 
environmentalists where there is cause for concern. You won't find 
them in official handbooks. I can think of 3 ad hoc signs from around 
here. 1. "Hippo" signs after a couple of accidents at night. 2. A 
"Crocodile" sign at Tzaneen (N of here) after one was run over. & 3. 
A "Birds - Slow" sign S of here where, for some reason, a lot of 
birds, especially doves, congregate on the road. Some people do care 
& one hopes the drivers take note.


Alan C

-Original Message- From: Ken Waller
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 10:26 PM
To: pentax list
Subject: PESO - Signage - 'Where am I'

An unusual sign I haven't seen before. Notice its bear, not bare. 
I've been

in all the United States
and don't recall seeing one before.

Where was it taken ?

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315060

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Re: Pesos For tje bords

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For a second there, I was afraid you'd had a stroke.

I understand your pain.

At least Dave Brookes could probably decode what you typed with no 
problem...


On 11/27/2016 7:10 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Good God, why don’t I read what I post before I hit send?

The subject line was supposed to be “For the Birds.” Not very original but 
better than For tje bords. Where is autocorrect when I need it? The copy should 
have said, “I went out late in the day with my K-1, tripod, DF A 150-450 and  A 
2X S converter, and shot some little birds. These are pushed pretty hard to 
about ISO 25,600 and cropped tight but still fun to shoot.


On Nov 27, 2016, at 6:54 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

Went p ut late in the day with y K-1 trips, DF A 150-450. A 2Xs comforter and 
hot some little birds. The are pushed pretty hard, about ISO 25,600 and tight 
crops, but still fun to shoot.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315490=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18315489=lg

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Re: PESO -- The Red Boat.

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I've thought about the suggestions that I received and well, maybe.

The wooden construction is the remains of an erosion control jetty, they 
were made out of various materials, the earliest seem to have been of 
wood or stone, though there were later ones of wood as well.  The middle 
period, say from the 1930's to the 1960's were made of steal or iron, 
those have fared the worst and most have almost completely rusted away.  
Most places, trying to control beach erosion has fallen out of favor, so 
few are now being built and few of the existing ones are being 
reconstructed.


On 11/23/2016 8:37 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I like the foreground rocks snd the way the remains of the pier, or
whatever, lead the eye to the island and the boat.

I had to look REALLY closely to see the red in that boat.  


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On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 3:24 PM, P.J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com>
wrote:


https://pdml.updog.co/webster26/PESO%20--%20theredboat.html

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PESO -- A New Washington Monument.

[P.J. Alling]

No one should read anything into this, I just saw this where I had lunch 
today, and it amused me.  It still amuses me, and I haven't even been 
drinking.  Maybe I'm just a little punchy.  It's been that kind of a 
week, or last two weeks.  I think I'm going to bed now.


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P. S. To all my fellow Americans have a Happy Thanksgiving, (to all you 
Canadians, sorry I forgot about your's but I hope it was happy also).  
To everyone else, sorry you can't be here to participate in the U.S. 
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PESO -- The Red Boat.

[P.J. Alling]

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Re: PESO Djaram Black

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He: Do you smoke after sex?
She: I don't know, I've never looked...

Old joke, sorry.



On 11/23/2016 10:22 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

First shot from a very enjoyable creative first studio session with
Annie McDayter. Trying out a new makeup artist too, Izzy Irizarry, who
had the clove cigarette idea.

Warning: smoking in bed and nudity.

http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/153560419282

645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8, f/5.6, 1/60th sec, 100 ISO
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Speaking of things quietly forgotten...

[P.J. Alling]

Has anyone else noticed that the Q system seems to no longer be a thing?

Lenses are still available, but the camera itself is no longer listed on 
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Re: OT

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He did, he underwent a self performed Macectomy.  Possibly one of the 
scariest procedures of all. Except for a Windows replacement...


On 11/22/2016 11:36 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Although younger, I also was under impression that you were going to
undergo some medical procedure, Dave...

On 22 Nov 2016 18:19, "Bob Sullivan"  wrote:


Dave, Some of us are of an age where 'I may or may not be back' is
frightening.  Glad you're back.  Bob S.

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 6:24 AM, David J Brooks 
wrote:


today's the day. I may or may not be back.

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Re: The entrance - K1

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I like it but it seems the sharpest part of the photograph are the 
foreground backlit leaves, in the upper right corner.  By the comparison 
the rest seems a bit soft, which wouldn't even be noticeable except for 
those leaves.


On 11/21/2016 6:46 AM, Philip Northeast wrote:
took the K1 for a walk in the local botanical gardens. The entrance to 
the Japanese section withe Sigma 35mm F1.4 Art lens, a heavy lump of 
glass.


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Re: K-1 Turning Off Auto ISO

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Which is exactly the way the K-5[II[s]] works.  To set auto ISO the 
K20D  required a trip to the Fn ISO menu.  Maybe the manual writers for 
the K-1 assume that the only people who'd buy a K-1 at one time used a 
K-7, K-5 or K-3, so they didn't need the information.


On 11/20/2016 6:09 PM, John wrote:

In the Index on page 123 it lists:

ISO AUTO Setting .. 49
ISO Sensitivity ... 49

You set ISO AUTO by pressing the green button while holding down the ISO
button.

Turning the rear wheel while holding the ISO turns ISO AUTO back off and
resets the ISO Sensitivity to where-ever you leave off turning the wheel.

Index page 125 lists:

Sound Effects ... 28

That takes you to "Set-up Menus" where All of the sounds appear to be in
"wrench 1" where you can control the volume of the sounds & turn
individual sounds on & off.

Also lets you turn sounds on/off for Fx1 & Fx2 Buttons.

On 11/20/2016 5:18 PM, jtainter wrote:

This seems to do it:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/58681200

As far as I can tell, the manual does not say how to turn off Auto
ISO. I've had no trouble like this in previous Pentax DSLRs that I've
owned. Odd that in a professional-grade camera, there is no easy way
to turn off a feature designed for beginners.

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Re: K-1 Questions

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I think you turn of Auto ISO the same way as with a K-5 or K-3 hold down 
the ISO button and change the ISO.


It's in the menu under Roadrunner ;-). No it's probably the same as the 
K-7 thru K-3 too.  Which if I remember correctly it's on one of the menu 
pages under the wrench, labeled something really confusing like BEEP.  I 
don't have the K-5 in front of me, and I may have confused that with the 
K20D but it's probably close to that.


On 11/20/2016 12:48 PM, jtainter wrote:

Every new Pentax camera has more features, larger menus, and more sub-menu 
options, but the manual never gets any clearer. The biggest problem is the 
index, which has an inscrutable approach to naming things that I have questions 
about. I find Pentax's indices virtually useless for finding answers to my 
questions.

So, can someone please help me with a couple of questions?

1. How do I turn off Auto ISO?

2. How do I turn off the focus beep?

(Most of my approach to new cameras is to turn defaults off.)

Thanks,

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Re: Enablement, thy name is......

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It's Lomo.  They'll probably tell you not getting the plain Waterhouse 
stops is a feature.


On 11/20/2016 9:14 AM, mike wilson wrote:

Ho hum.  This beast uses Waterhouse style aperture plates.  It's supposed to
come with a set of plain plates, a set of "specially designed" plates to produce
"deep, textured backgrounds rarely achieved in photography" and another set of
plates in heart, snowflake and other vomit-inducing shapes.

I have two sets of specially designed, one set of vomit and no plain.  Bugger.
  Overwhelming backgrounds r me.  Message sent to Lomography but they probably
won't pick it up until tomorrow.

If I get time later on, I'll rattle a few frames off and post a zip file on
Dropbox or somewhere for people to peruse at full strength.

If its photographic capabilities live up to its fondling ones, it should be
stunning.


On 17 November 2016 at 19:12 mike wilson  wrote:


..Frustration!

My K-mount Lomo Daguerrotype lens arrived.  Beautifully packaged, it looks
magnificent in its little plastic bag with a sachet of dessicant.  It weighs a
lot, too.

It is also ice cold and, being solid brass except for the glass bits, I'm
going
to have to wait until it's up to room temperature.

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Re: K-1 and Photoshop CS6

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The only reason to use PEF format is if you're shooting a *ist-D since 
it doesn't support DNG or you need to save space, as early 
implementations on Pentax cameras produced DNGs 130% to 200% the size of 
a PEF file.  That hasn't been an issue for quite some time.


On 11/18/2016 2:06 PM, jtainter wrote:

I am expecting my K-1 to arrive later today. Can someone tell me if Photoshop 
CS6 will recognize PEF files from the K-1? Or should I shoot in DNG format?

Thanks,

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Re: PESO - Yet Another Selfie

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Marco, as long as there are narcissists in the world you will have 
interesting subjects...


On 11/18/2016 11:42 AM, Marco Alpert wrote:

Last one for a while. Promise.

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso33.html

Comments, as always, welcomed.

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Re: Peso-Mallard Hen

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The important question is do they distract the duck, you don't want your 
subject to be distracted, unless it's a two year old or a pet, then you 
want all the distraction you can get.


On 11/18/2016 9:46 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

They also distract from the duck.

-Original Message-

From: Larry Colen 
Subject: Re: Peso-Mallard Hen



PhotoCapturesbyJeffery.com wrote:

I like the duck. Wonder how it would look without the twigs/branches
sticking up out of the water.

Not nearly as nice, the sticks add compositional balance to the frame.


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On 11/17/2016 9:13 PM, Alan C wrote:

The duck is unimportant. That's actually an artistic sort of thing.

Alan C

-Original Message- From: Jack Davis
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Subject: Peso-Mallard Hen


Simply, a Mallard Hen.

C?

J

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Re: Are the lenses really that good?

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I don't know from first hand experience the quality of the Pentax 
28-105mm, but I think you're asking the wrong question.


Whether the D FA 28-105 is that good or not is irrelevant.  Look at the 
prices for equivalent lenses from other manufactures that offer cameras 
with FF sensors.


I haven't actually done an extensive search but, to start out with the 
only lens I could find that actually matches the gross specifications of 
the Pentax is an older Tamron Adaptal which B is selling for about $500.


Nikon doesn't have a FF in that exact focal range, but their 24-85mm 
f3.8~5.6 is selling at B for, oh look at that about $500.


Canon has a 24-105mm f3.5~5.6 which is selling selling for $600. Canon 
also has a 28-135mm f3.5~5.6 selling for $300.  I suppose you could take 
the average and say Canon is about the same but selling for less...


Sony well they don't have a pro-sumer zoom in A mount, according to 
their site anyway, so you go straight to their 24-70 f2.8 pro offering 
at about two grand, for the E mount they offer a 28-70mm f3.5~5.6 for, 
oh, look, about $500.


So there's your answer if you want a second tier normal zoom for a full 
frame digital camera in any current system, you're going to pay $500 
whether it's worth it or not.


As to the macro reflection issues, I don't have a good answer.  It might 
depend on what are you using for light sources.  Flash or continuous.  
If continuous, tungsten, florescent, or LED.  Maybe you can change the 
lighting type to alleviate the problem.  I really don't know it's not an 
issue I've run into.




On 11/18/2016 9:01 AM, Collin B wrote:

I read a good review on the D FA 28-105. But $500?
While I appreciate Pentax, ok Ricoh, apparently pulling a Sony and going
largely pro-sumer with some quality glass, I need to be able to afford it.
:-)
Has anyone compared the three film 28-105 lenses to the D FA?

Also, I've put the FA50/2.8 macro on a DSLR in shop.  Have to be careful
about light intensity as I can get a blue spot in the middle of the images.
Have read of this on Nikon forums as well. It appears to be a conflict
between the character of the old film coatings against reflections off the
sensor. But it only happens under product lighting (FL). (Never happened
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Re: Enablement, thy name is......

[P.J. Alling]

Actually there are a number of contemporary camera lenses, and quite a 
few classics that use 40.5 mm threaded filters.  So it's not that big a 
money maker, for them.


On 11/17/2016 4:15 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

mike wilson wrote:


..Frustration!

My K-mount Lomo Daguerrotype lens arrived.  Beautifully packaged, it looks
magnificent in its little plastic bag with a sachet of dessicant.  It weighs a
lot, too.

It is also ice cold and, being solid brass except for the glass bits, I'm going
to have to wait until it's up to room temperature.

Can you hear my drumming fingers?

Ooh, I want one of those! I'm very much looking forward to seeing some
shots from it.

As a side note, I see they've settled on a 40.5mm filter thread. Now
there's a way to make extra money: No one else is going to sell
filters for that lens!
  



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Re: Enablement, thy name is......

[P.J. Alling]

It looks interesting.  In the sample photos the Bokeh looks passing 
strange.  The same order of strangeness that one gets from a mirror 
telephoto, but of a different kind.  I'm not sure I like it.  Too bad 
they didn't make the Petzval lens in K mount, that looks even more 
interesting, also with weird Bokeh, but I find it more pleasing to the eye.


On 11/17/2016 2:12 PM, mike wilson wrote:

..Frustration!

My K-mount Lomo Daguerrotype lens arrived.  Beautifully packaged, it looks
magnificent in its little plastic bag with a sachet of dessicant.  It weighs a
lot, too.

It is also ice cold and, being solid brass except for the glass bits, I'm going
to have to wait until it's up to room temperature.

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Re: Pentax 6x7 b

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Those are very nice, but you really have to invest in a decent scanner 
that can handle "large" film.


On 11/17/2016 7:57 AM, Collin B wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/albums/72157676703521485
Just some phone snaps of last evenings printing session.
I do miss the prospect of getting the shadow information/detail from that
first image with 4x5.
But alas, I'll get along.
Still, it's nice to have a big neg and good detail even with 400 film.  XP2
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Re: Tight 40 mm Limited

[P.J. Alling]

Where are you.  If you're in the Continental US send it to Eric 
Hendrickson he has a web site called pentaxs.com.


Good fast service, reasonable prices and very accommodating of the 
eccentric, which I suppose you have to be to specialize in repairing 
Pentax equipment...


The only thing I don't think he does is work on digital bodies, but AF 
lenses don't seem to be a problem, especially as it sounds like your 
lens only needs a CLA.


He's an independent so parts can be a problem if something has to be 
replaced.


his email address is penta...@aol.com.

On 11/15/2016 5:47 PM, Michael Beacom wrote:

Hi-

It’s true, I’ve been ignoring PDML for quite a while.
But I’ve discovered a new game- read the threads newest first. You find gems 
like this-

  'Thanks. A giraffe is always good. I’ve never seen a picture that included a 
giraffe that led me to say, “The giraffe is spoiling the picture.”

You guys suckered me in again...

BTW:
My 40mm Limited has gotten very stiff at the close focus end of travel. Stiff 
enough that it stalls autofocus. Is this a common problem?
Where can I get it fixed?

Cheers
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Once again Amazon succeeds in pissing me off.

[P.J. Alling]

This is only marginally on topic, because it's an upgrade item for my 
photo computer, but hey.  I just needed to vent somewhere.


I'm on Amazon's list for Gold Box deals, which I pretty much ignore 
because there's usually nothing I want to buy, and if I don't want to 
buy it a better price isn't going to persuade me.


Today lo and behold I get notification that something. that I've had in 
my Amazon Shopping cart for ages, is a Gold Box item.  Hot damn, 
something I want or need is actually on sale, at a door buster price!


Well no, not really, it's the same damned price it's been for the last 
couple of months.  But, maybe it's a different vendor that has that item 
at a lower price...


So I start paging through the Gold Box deals.  Geez, either the 
programmers who write this stuff are surprisingly untallented, or Amazon 
thinks their customers are surprisingly "simple"*.  288 pages of deals 
on with duplicates on every second page of the exact item I've seen on a 
previous page.  What a freaking waste of time.  I just gave up.  If they 
think I'm that easily influenced to buy crap they don't want my money.


*By which I mean actually mentally challenged.


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PESO -- The Double Bridge [Channeling Thomas Kinkade]

[P.J. Alling]

I honestly didn't start out to channel Thomas Kinkade, I was just trying 
to eek out some detail in the dead white sky, but the more I tried the 
more it started to look like a Kinkade painting, or maybe something 
Kennyboy would like.  It amused me to post it.


https://pdml.updog.co/webster26/PESO%20--%20thedoublebridge.html

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Re: OT Computer woes.

[P.J. Alling]

If it only happens with your browser check for unauthorized plugins and 
extensions.  Every once in a while a web site will install something 
that you don't want. Having automatic updates enabled can allow the 
installation without you being notified, and they can be pretty sneaky 
in getting you to authorize it as well.


On 11/15/2016 6:50 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 7:46 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

You may have some software that's incompatible with the old OS. It's going to 
be tough to come up with a solution without updating. And why not update? 
There's nothing to be gained by sticking with a long gone OS.

Only software update was Sptder Pro 4 back in September. Not sure if
thats when things started or not, it may have been.

I have 10.11 downloaded just working up the courage.LOL

Dave

Paul via phone


On Nov 14, 2016, at 7:14 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:

The browsers will often freeze if the machine has been asleep for a while too.

Dave


On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 7:13 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
The last few months my browsers freeze up and i have to force quit and
shut down and restart. I have been avoiding the click bate sites but
sometime clicking on a video that has been shared seems to follow with
a freeze up. Just recently when i turn on the computer i get the grey
screen and no apple logo, i shut it off again and restart then it
seems to be ok. This jsut started last week. Old OS 10.6.8 plus my
browsers are not in line for up dates any more, Chrome and Firefox.
I'm down to 196 GIG on a 500 Gig HD. Could this be part of it.??
I have fixed permissions and run Macscan 1-2 a month to get rid of the
tracking cookies.

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Re: PESO: As Big as it Gets

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Jack, I didn't take the photo, Paul took the photo.  I wish I'd taken 
the photo.


On 11/14/2016 10:55 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Well don, P. J.!

J
Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 14, 2016, at 6:40 PM, P.J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> wrote:


On 11/13/2016 8:52 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I continue to be fascinated with focusing the moon. This is as close to there 
earth as it will come in my lifetime. It’s one day short of full here, but that 
gives it a bit of dimension.  I can’t get any closer. This is the Pentax D FA 
150-450 with the A 2X S converter. to yield 900 mm. Manual focus. f8, 1/200th, 
ISO 400.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18310218=lg

Well I'm glad you got a good shot of it.  I figured since it would still be 
"full" I'd try tonight.  So of course it's now mostly cloudy.

Remember always take the shot when it's available, don't wait.

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Re: PESO: As Big as it Gets

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On 11/13/2016 8:52 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I continue to be fascinated with focusing the moon. This is as close to there 
earth as it will come in my lifetime. It’s one day short of full here, but that 
gives it a bit of dimension.  I can’t get any closer. This is the Pentax D FA 
150-450 with the A 2X S converter. to yield 900 mm. Manual focus. f8, 1/200th, 
ISO 400.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18310218=lg


Well I'm glad you got a good shot of it.  I figured since it would still 
be "full" I'd try tonight.  So of course it's now mostly cloudy.


Remember always take the shot when it's available, don't wait.

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Re: K-1 Price

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I expect the price has gone up because it had to.

On 11/14/2016 9:13 PM, Yolanda Rowe wrote:

Black Friday and Christmas are right around the corner. They must
inflate the price to have room for a *sale*. JM2C

Cheers,

Yonnie.

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Gonz  wrote:

The price of the K-1 has not dropped from the initial introduction, it
has increased instead. Its almost $200 from the initial $1800 or so
that it was several months ago

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Re: PESO: As Big as it Gets

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I've used the 600mm Vivitar S1 Solid cat.  It works pretty well when you 
get the focus right.  It is really tough to focus correctly when 
shooting the moon, everything looks to be in focus, but since they focus 
beyond infinity, you can be off enough to get really soft photos.


On 11/14/2016 9:09 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



"And I tell to myself: `What a wonderfull ... Moon!' " ;-)
Done really well!

I wonder if anyone has ever tried the mirror 800 mm lenses for 
shooting the Moon. They also used to be sold with a 2x TC.

(IIRC they were Korean: Samyang/Rokinon ?)

Igor


Paul Stenquist Sun, 13 Nov 2016 17:54:07 -0800 wrote:

I continue to be fascinated with focusing the moon. This is as close 
to there earth as it will come in my lifetime. It’s one day short of 
full here, but that gives it a bit of dimension.  I can’t get any 
closer. This is the Pentax D FA 150-450 with the A 2X S converter. to 
yield 900 mm. Manual focus. f8, 1/200th, ISO 400.



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Re: OT Computer woes.

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I don't know that much about Macs but on Windows the you only need about 
twice as much paging file as actual physical memory, and if you're hard 
drive which you seem to have.  But if your drive is fragmented then even 
with enough paging file, it can slow down the system when more paging 
space is allocated.  I don't know if disk defragmenting is a thing with 
a Mac, but if it I'd try that first.


On 11/14/2016 7:13 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

The last few months my browsers freeze up and i have to force quit and
shut down and restart. I have been avoiding the click bate sites but
sometime clicking on a video that has been shared seems to follow with
a freeze up. Just recently when i turn on the computer i get the grey
screen and no apple logo, i shut it off again and restart then it
seems to be ok. This jsut started last week. Old OS 10.6.8 plus my
browsers are not in line for up dates any more, Chrome and Firefox.
I'm down to 196 GIG on a 500 Gig HD. Could this be part of it.??
I have fixed permissions and run Macscan 1-2 a month to get rid of the
tracking cookies.

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Re: Wheee

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The news reports are painting a pretty terrible picture.  Glad to hear 
you're all right.


On 11/13/2016 7:45 AM, David Mann wrote:

Just reporting in safe & well after another decent shake. It wasn't too intense 
but seemed to go on for a long time.

GNS have it at 6.6 but USGS say 7.4. It was a little way north from here but 
was enough to wake up half the country. Our baby slept right through, daddy 
will be awake for a while yet :) We're feeling the larger aftershocks but 
they're pretty gentle by the time they reach us. I don't expect any damage to 
our place.

I really would prefer it if these damn things would happen during the day!

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Re: Enablement K1 +

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On 11/12/2016 2:25 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016, at 03:25 AM, John wrote:

On 11/12/2016 3:57 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

Rick Womer wrote:

Where in history does that leave those of us using K-5s or K-7s?

My son uses my K10D; still going strong with ~30K exposures on the clock. He
must somewhere in the late Roman empire.
+

Caveman here, still occasionally uses an *ist D.

Malcolm



Would that be paleolithic or neolithic?

I probably should put batteries in mine and go out to shoot a few frames
just to make sure it doesn't petrify.


Yeah, I fire off a few frames from my *ist D & DS occasionally just to
exercise the shutter. I have to say I think the DS is the most
ergonomically satisfying of all my Pentax DSLRs.


I don't knowm I like the grip on the K-5II better.  The Ds is lighter, 
and a little smaller but I do use it every once in a while and end up 
missing the K-5II.





Cheers

Brian

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Re: Well this bloody well sux.

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Yes, I know.  The poor thing will never be the same again.  Too the 
brunt of the blow on the FA-1W finder, which will certainly never be the 
same.


On 11/12/2016 3:38 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

John wrote:

Wouldn't have taken as long as it did if it hadn't been a holiday. I could
have gone to my primary care physician at the local VA clinic.

I just didn't want to wait three days until Monday to get a tetanus shot (if
I had needed it).

And unlike PJ's LX, it will heal in time.
+++

Very wise getting it sorted there and then.

As for PJ's camera, of all the cameras to drop, an LXouch!

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Not a PESO -- Gillette's Castle

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Some people commented that my PESO of Gillette's Castle was should have 
been taken at a different angle, which I did but I intended it for the 
PUG, and didn't want to post it as a PESO first.  There were a couple of 
things that annoyed me about that image after the PUG was published, so 
I decided to correct the one that bugged me the most and re-post it as a 
sort of PESO.  So here it is again.


https://pdml.updog.co/webster26/PUGish/gillettescastle.html

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Re: Enablement K1 +

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I wrote a long post on the sufficiency of the K-5/5II/5IIs as a camera, 
but it was really nothing that hasn't been said before, so I put it 
aside maybe I'll start a blog and call it not good enough for the PDML.


Short take, having come to the K5II from the K20D, I must say I really 
appreciate my "stone knives and bearskins".  Anyone still shooting a K-7 
or K20D should really upgrade to at least a K-5 for the image quality 
alone, everything else is just gravy.


On 11/12/2016 3:43 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

Where in history does that leave those of us using K-5s or K-7s?

My son uses my K10D; still going strong with ~30K exposures on the
clock. He must somewhere in the late Roman empire.

Rick
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

Nothing wrong with that image!

I hope you enjoy your new camera.  I'm still back in the middle ages with
  K-5 IIs.

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On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 2:15 AM, Philip Northeast 
wrote:


Picked up my K1 and a Sigma 35mm F1.4 Art lens today.

This was my first effort. Not all the settings were how I normally shoot
but it is a start. Might even have to read some of the manual.

https://flic.kr/p/P6nRNz

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Re: Happy Veterans Day

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On 11/12/2016 11:12 AM, John wrote:

On 11/11/2016 11:14 PM, Bill wrote:

On 11/11/2016 6:12 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

My sincere thanks to all American veterans for their sacrifice and
dedication in their service to our country.



For those of us who have lost family in various wars, this is anything
but a happy day.

Just sayin




Actually that's kind of wrong.  Veterans Day in the US may fall upon the 
anniversary of the last day of WWI but on this day we appreciate and 
thank and yes celebrate those who came back.  Memorial day is the day of 
mourning and remembrance.  So yes, Happy Veterans Day.





Yeah, I know. But I still wish happiness for you on this day ... or at
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Re: Well this bloody well sux.

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So I guess they can be called human Schnauzers,

Hell I don't even want to have a chip implanted in my dog. There's some 
evidence that a particularly nasty form of cancer can be triggered in 
some dogs by identity chips and they're not entirely reliable when scanned.




On 11/11/2016 12:36 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Stan, wait, - not far from now phones (or whatever those devices will 
be called once they will have "phone" app optional) will be surgically 
_implanted_ in the hand.


And if someone thinks it's a Sci-Fi, - there are already people who 
voluntarily implant chips into themselves (some do several!):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microchip_implant_%28human%29

Igor


 Stan Halpin Fri, 11 Nov 2016 09:25:32 -0800 wrote:

I am surprised - I thought all youth (I.e., under 30s) had their 
phones surgically attached to their hand. I understood it happens at 
age 12, much like "coming of age" ceremonies and tattoos of tribal times.



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Well this bloody well sux.

[P.J. Alling]

Once again to prove that there's nothing mechanical I cannot break, I 
managed to drop the LX that I keep planning to use, but never do, four 
feet onto a concrete floor, which even considering that the LX is built 
like a light tank didn't do it any good at all.  This could cap my week 
of wreaking havoc, on everything from computer equipment, to my car, to 
now the LX.


I was going to say on the bright side that I hadn't managed to destroy 
my cell phone, but then remembered that I did actually break a landline 
phone last Sunday.


I think I just want to go to bed and stay there until Jan 1st to avoid 
destroying anything else for the rest of the year.


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Re: Canada Ho

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This isn't politics.  This is stupidity.  What passes for the press in 
the US is totally against Trump.  He will get away with zero, if Hillery 
was elected the press would have looked the other way, as they have been 
for the last 8 years, because... I'm not really sure why, since any good 
feelings over Bill had long since evaporated, and Hillery had all the 
empathy of a slightly dead fish.  Must be the agenda, but I'm not always 
sure what the agenda is since it seems to shift from time to time.


On 11/10/2016 3:20 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Friends don't let friends elect a mysoginistic bigot and racist without
calling them out on it.
You know Krystalnacht was Nov. 9th, 1933(?) in Germany.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:


Bob just got out the blowtorch and a drum of napalm! Now it’s politics. :-)



On Nov 10, 2016, at 3:09 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:

Bipin,
With the election of Trump we officially become a Banana Republic...
We have a wana-be dictator as head of state with ambitions to repeal our
liberties.
I'm ashamed of my country.
Canada or New Zealand might be better.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 2:41 AM, Bipin Gupta  wrote:


So Trump has won. The Great American People have given their verdict.
They cast their vote for Something Different. They had earlier elected
Obama for that Something Different, but he failed them. And Hillary is
an Old Chip of the Same Block - best avoided like the plague as per
them.

Many of us here wanted to exit to Canada?? Hands up for all of those
who are on the way out to Canada.
Maybe I can put up a few in my humble home in Thornhill Ontario for a
day or two till bearings are found.

Just in jest and a joak.
Regards.
Bipin
also from the computer capital of the world - Bangalore - targeted by
Trump.

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Re: Canada Ho

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Since when does Bill use smileys?

On 11/10/2016 7:57 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

You forgot the smiley, Bill.

J :(

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 10, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Bill  wrote:


On 11/10/2016 6:39 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
The result of such a migration will
likely be a raising of the IQ of both
countries. :-))

Your one of the ones who are thinking of immigrating then?


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Re: PESO - Meanwhile, in Norway

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On 11/9/2016 1:35 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



Jostein wrote:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/alunfoto/30827918316/in/album-72157645295895989/ 



AT 10:30PM the temperature here is 14C, tomorrow it should be back up 
to 26C.


When I first read that I thought, when did California enter a new Ice 
Age.  Then I realized C, so you're having what everyone else would 
consider a lovely spring, in late Autumn.








Shot this afternoon. You are granted exactly one guess at which car I
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Re: PESO - Meanwhile, in Norway

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The first snowfall of the season in southern New England, is usually 
less than an inch, in fact usually less than a dusting.  This would shut 
most of Connecticut down, if we didn't have time to acclimate to the 
snow, and we laugh at places that can't handle less than an inch of the 
stuff.


On 11/8/2016 1:52 PM, Jostein wrote:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/alunfoto/30827918316/in/album-72157645295895989/ 



Shot this afternoon. You are granted exactly one guess at which car I 
used for work today. :-)


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National Geographic Nature Photographer of the Year finalists...

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20+ seems like a lot of "finalists" to me, but hey it's their contest, 
the images are of course spectacular, because National Geographic.


http://www.boredpanda.com/national-geographic-nature-photographer-of-the-year-finalists-2016/

Well I don't know they're all spectacular, I'm still paging through but 
so far...


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Re: More Birdies, different converters

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On 11/7/2016 7:34 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Someone has to maintain the standards around here! :-)


You mean the list has standards ? ;-)


They are rather low, but, yes I guess we do.



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- Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" 
Subject: Re: More Birdies, different converters


Yeah, the 28000 shot  is extreme, especially since it is about a 50% 
crop. Bit I'm okay with noisy pics as long as they're sharp. The 
noise is no more pronounced than Tri-x grain at ISO 800. Printed and 
viewed from a normal distance, this type shot is fine by me. But I 
think you're more particular than I am. That could be a good thing. 
Someone has to maintain the standards around here! :-)


Paul via phone


On Nov 6, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

Big improvement in noise with the second shot - 28000 vs 1500.

I would consider the one at 28000 just about unusable.

Nice lighting on the second one - nicely caught eye highlight.

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- Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" 


Subject: More Birdies, different converters


This appears to be a finch, and I shot it with the D FA 150-450 and 
the A2X S converter. Like the other pic I posted it’s f8, 1/320th 
and about ISO 28,00


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18307583=lg

For this one I put on the DA 1.4 AF converter and slowed the 
shutter speed down to 1/80th, I was able to get the ISO down to 
about 1500. (The bird, a Junko, was also in better light.)


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18307586=lg

The much slower shutter speed works fine if the bird down’t move, 
but if he takes off I’ll lose what might be a good shot.


Tons of fun in the backyard.I shot the pics sitting in a lawn chair 
with the camera on a tripod. I think sitting s a plus because it 
minimizes my size.


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Re: PESO - 'Not ready for takeoff'

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I guess for that Dragon the ice age cometh.

On 11/7/2016 8:14 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Its a Darner of undetermined Genus. (possibly a Fawn Darner)

Taken late Auguest in the U P of Michigan in Seney National Wildlife 
Reserve on a dewey, cool, early morning with K3, 200mm f4.0 ED  Macro 
SMCP A*.  1/25 s at f4.0, 400 ISO.


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Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

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That seems to be the problem, what you gain with the tiny body you lose 
with the adapter, or vice versa.


On 11/7/2016 6:21 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 7/11/16, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed:


Finally, a quick shout out for another camera that will easily satisfy
your requirements

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Re: It's time for a digital flash

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You can use pretty much any modern auto-thyristor flash, if you set the 
aperture properly you'll get images pretty much as well exposed as you 
would with a fancy P-TTL capable flash.  The command interface on a late 
model AF280T is even partially supported so in the auto modes it will 
set the proper f stop and shutter speed.


On 11/7/2016 12:57 PM, Collin B wrote:

I need to re-shoot some of my new daughter-in-law/her mother pre-wedding
shots.
The originals, not by me, were done with her mother's hair still in curlers.
My assigned task is to reshoot them.
But I really do want something better than the pop-up flash on the K5.
Lens will be either the F50/1.7 or the FA28/2.8, though the FA28-105 may be
used as it's respectable.
Anyway. I've not gotten a digital flash before.  What's a recommended unit
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Re: PESO - "2x2 = 4to" (plus some curious engineering facts)

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I don't really deserve thanks, I commented on a comment, not on the 
image.  Which is very nice by the way.  I think the title should be 
"Youth and Vanity vs Age and Acceptance".  Not that the younger woman is 
vain exactly, but she is certainly aware of her attractiveness.


On 11/7/2016 8:51 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Thank you, Larry, Malcolm, P.J., Marco, John, and 
John-wherever-you-are-now for looking and commenting! ;-)


I am back home from the last week's conference travel, - and by this 
time, people may have figured out that this picture has been taken at 
"GUM" - "Upper Trading Rows", and iconic store in Moscow, Russia:

http://pug.komkon.org/16nov/slides/IR-%20IconicPlaces-Igor_IR34361.html

I am not sure if anybody read the Wikipedia linked below that image:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUM_%28department_store%29
It is a historic building with the first of its kind (at the time it 
was built - more than a century ago) engineering design.


Yet another structure built by the same engineer is the hyperboloid 
"Shukhov tower": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shukhov_Tower

(on the UNESCO's "Endangered Buildings" list).
Unfortunately, I don't have any of my own photos of it.

A few interesting engineering facts about it:
Shukhov invented hyperboloid towers (Patent of 1899, applied 1896).
The original design called for 350 meters height, and that would weigh 
2200 tons (metric). For comparison, Eiffel Tower (324 meters) weighs
over 10 000 tons. Due to the shortage of steel, Shukhov's tower is 
only 160-meters tall.
Based on this idea, in 2005-2009, a 600-meter-high hyperboloid Canton 
tower was built in Guangzhou, China. (For a brief moment it was the 
tallest tower in the world, taking over that title from the CN Tower 
in Toronto.)


A curious fact:
 In 1941, a postal airplane that was expriencing technical problems, 
touched with its wing the cable that was going from the top of the 
tower to the ground (at an angle), - a leftover from the construction, 
which was hanging there for several years since the tower was built. 
That torn off the winch that was at the ground end, but the tower 
remained intact and did not need any repairs. The plane crashed into 
the nearby house's yard.


Cheers,

Igor



On Thu, 3 Nov 2016, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



"Oops, I did it again!"  ;-)

Thank you, Larry. For you others who still cannot read URLs through 
the brain-wave channel:


http://42graphy.org/galleries/2016-08-05-RedSquare/_IR34357.html

Cheers,

Igor



On Thu, 3 Nov 2016, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




"2x2 = 4to"

Just a fun shot.

This photo is taken at an iconic place... The photo in the PUG will 
be the clue of where this happened.


All comments and suggestions are welcome.


Igor

PS. I am aware of the boy and his leg.
There was no opportunity/time to move to the side and "hide" him 
behind the man.










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Re: PESO - Glance

[P.J. Alling]

Based on the shape of the prism housing the placement of the mode dial 
and the articulating screen, it's most likely a Canon T6i (760D).  
Camera spotting a hobby?



On 11/7/2016 4:14 AM, Alan C wrote:
Classic. Looks a bit like Boy George in his younger days! Did you try 
blowing it up to ID the camera?


Alan C

-Original Message- From: Marco Alpert
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http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso31.html

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Re: More Birdies, different converters

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The first one is kind of noisy.


On 11/6/2016 6:06 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

This appears to be a finch, and I shot it with the D FA 150-450 and the A2X S 
converter. Like the other pic I posted it’s f8, 1/320th and about ISO 28,00

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18307583=lg

For this one I put on the DA 1.4 AF converter and slowed the shutter speed down 
to 1/80th, I was able to get the ISO down to about 1500. (The bird, a Junko, 
was also in better light.)

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18307586=lg

The much slower shutter speed works fine if the bird down’t move, but if he 
takes off I’ll lose what might be a good shot.

Tons of fun in the backyard.I shot the pics sitting in a lawn chair with the 
camera on a tripod. I think sitting s a plus because it minimizes my size.

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Re: Think tank thoughts?

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I try not to think about bags, or my dissatisfaction level would rise 
exponentially.


I've got this old bag, that was gifted to me, it's 1970s vintage in a, 
semi, messenger style, (I say semi because it's not really, it predates 
messenger bags being a thing).  It's the best working bag, if you just 
want to carry a couple of lenses one body and a flash, or forgo the 
flash for a third lens, I've got, and haven't found a modern bag that's 
better.  Even thought the pockets leave something to be desired.


It's falling apart and I can't find a replacement.  The worst part is it 
probably wasn't even an expensive bag when it was new.


I really think bag designers actually design bags to /almost/ fit a 
photographers needs so they'll become subtly dissatisfied and go buy 
another bag.


Damn, now I have to go and have a stiff drink.

On 11/3/2016 6:01 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
I really like my Lowepro Fastpak 350, however the lenses for the K-1 
are enough bigger that I can't conveniently carry my "ready for 
anything" kit in it.  The speaker at the photo club last night had a 
think tank bag (streetwalker hard drive), and it looked pretty good.


Since it's possible that y'all enjoy shopping for and talking about 
camera bags even more than lenses, I'm curious about your opinions on 
a larger backpack style camera bag in general, and the think tank bags 
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Re: Pentax 18-270mm lens.

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Well it's a re-badged Tamron with Pentax Electronics and SMC.  Tamron 
makes good lenses.  I used to use the Pentax 28-200, also a re-badged 
Tamron, along with the FA 20-35 as a two lens kit,  On the *ist-D the Ds 
and the K20D and it was much better than it's reputation, (until I 
banged it around enough that some of the elements decentered, not the 
most robust lens, though there was a lot of metal in it's construction 
for a bargain all in wonder).  The 18-250 actually has a much better 
reputation so I'd expect it to be pretty good.  Keh.com actually has a 
couple of Tamron branded versions in stock, so you might look at those.


http://tinyurl.com/hm6ext3


On 11/6/2016 8:01 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

I would be grateful for any views on this lens.

  


My health has slowly improved over the last year, and I'm both cycling again
and walking further. By the 14th, I hope to be up to doing my old 5 miles
walking route daily. At the moment for walks, I have a camera bag which is
big enough to take one DSLR with lens attached with a pocket for a 'phone
etc - ideal for this. At the moment I decide which range of lens I need
before I go out, but I really need a lens that covers from very wide to
distance as I go further afield.

  


Is this a good choice?

  


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Re: PESO: Santuario de Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe

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Unfortunately you have two focal points in the image but your lens is 
only capable of rendering one in focus at a time.  Right now I feel like 
I want to see the rose in focus, and the church in focus.  I had a 
solution of sorts, (actually it was a way of showing off how good I was 
at judging exposure, since is was done with a  film carrier, modified 
to, print both adjacent frames at the same time.  But, it worked for 
this too), I'd take two exposures one with the near point in focus one 
with the far and print them as a diptych. I don't know how successful it 
was, as art, but I liked them.  It would be a lot easier to do digitally.


On 11/6/2016 6:16 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Built in 1781, west of the Santa Fe Plaza, the historic Nuestra Senora de
Guadalupe church is now an art and history museum. The Santuario contains
the Archdiocese of Santa Fe's collection of New Mexican santos (carved
images of the saints), Italian Renaissance paintings, and Mexican baroque
paintings. Among the treasured works is Our Lady of Guadalupe, one of the
largest and finest oil paintings of the Spanish Southwest, dated 1783 and
signed by Jose de Alzibar, one of Mexico's most renowned painters.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18307332=md


I like the rose as part of the picture; also like the history behind it too.

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PESO -- The Race.

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https://pdml.updog.co/webster26/PESO%20--%20therace.html

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Re: Chicago PDML meetup

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Wow, there's a lot of distortion on that lens...

http://caguilaphotography.com/coylecubs/content/_IMG8348_large.html

On 11/5/2016 2:18 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi All:

I had a great day with the lovely Jan & John Coyle!  Really super time, and the 
Coyles are absolutely lovely.  Here’s a small gallery of the scene on Michigan Ave., 
which was flooded with Cubs fans.  I got downtown a bit early to get some quick shots 
before meeting the Coyles.  Once we hooked up, we strolled the galleries at the art 
museum.  Then a quick stop at the Bean and then some pub-grub and a meet up with the 
Sullivan’s. Great to see Lynn & Bob.  I haven’t seen them in a long time. The best 
shot in the gallery is the last one, which is a nice shot of the Coyles.  I think 
you’ll all agree their lovely spirit shines through!

Here’s the link:  http://caguilaphotography.com/coylecubs/index.html

Great to meet you guys!
Big cheers, Christine




On Nov 4, 2016, at 10:01 PM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:

Was a great success!  Lovely afternoon with Christine, who met us
just after the big parade to celebrate the Cubs win in the World
Series (after 108 years!), then took us to the Art Institute for the
Impressionists, the photo gallery, and the miniatures.  Afterwards,
to the Bean, the park and thence to the Elephant and Castle pub for
drinks and chat, where Bob and Lynn Sullivan joined us for
dinner.Thank you so much to Christine for being such a terrific guide
and great company, and to Bob and Lynn for making the effort to come
in (2-1/2 hours drive, normally 45 minutes!) and spend time us - it
was really appreciated by Jan and I.No photos for the PDML yet, but I
have posted one on Facebook - really crude conversion to BW from a
soft original - even the K5ii cannot deal with all  my mistakes!
John and Jan in Chicago


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Re: PESO: Desert Roadrunner

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On 11/5/2016 8:14 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 1:51 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:


I'm glad it wasn't Wile E. Coyote!


Thanks for looking, Larry.

Not even in New Mexico would they name their prized new commuter rail
system after that loser !

Actually, although I have heard it called "the Road Runner train,"  it is
officially the New Mexico Rail Runner Express, or NMRX.  The line opened
only 10 years ago, and service to Santa Fe (from Albuquerque) began in
2008.  There are nine engines, and the one shown is NMRX 101.  There are 11
scheduled daily runs in each direction.
http://www.nmrailrunner.com/rio-metro-schedules/train-schedule/train-weekday
   It apparently operates at a substantial deficit.


Which was entirely predictable.  I like trains but they make no economic 
sense if population density is below a certain level.  We only approach 
that density in the US in a very few places.  I live in one of them and 
even here they struggle.




I am a big fan of trains, old and new.


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Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

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I've handled a Canon G12 felt solid like a 1970's compact fixed lens RF 
camera.  I expect any in the series would have the same feel and 
capabilities.  They were supposed to have very good image quality.  The 
optical viewfinder made that on a Kodak Instamatic 100 look good 
unfortunately.  The latest replacement in the series had dropped the 
viewfinder entirely so don't go there if that's important to you.


Then there's also the Fujifilm X10 and X20 with the lovely hybrid 
viewfinder.  I haven't actually tried out one of those but supposedly 
Fuji has seriously improved the usability with firmware updates. The X30 
seems to have done away with the hybrid VF and only has a EVF.  I have 
played briefly with a Fujifilm XPro1 and the viewfinder is lovely so I'm 
assuming the viewfinders on the X10 and X20 are as well.


If it were me looking for something like this I'd look at a Fujifilm 
X20, but I've got a lovely Kodak Retina IIIc which is an old school RF 
camera, so I'd probably just slip that in my pocket and be the envy of 
hipsters everywhere, (are hipsters still a thing?)


On 11/5/2016 10:17 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Apologies for the word filmic, but I wanted a snappy subject. I am
finally tired of trying to get any decent shots with a smartphone
which, despite being always available, nearly always disappoints me.

So what I'd like is pocketable and with the "feel" of an old school
film camera. That is, simple ergonomics. Simple interface, with
buttons and dials for the important most-used functions. I need
reading glasses to see closeup and I prefer devices I can work largely
by feel. Best if it has a viewfinder. Willing to consider EVF if I can
see it in the flesh and it convinces me.

I'd be okay with a fixed lens, but it would have to be a normal. 50mm
FF equiv. Subjects would often be landscape features, and the wide
lenses on smartphones just drive me nuts.

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PESO -- Unholy Alliance

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For some reason the State of Connecticut seems to have conspired with 
Ikea to make it impossible to get to some places in New Haven without 
going through Ikea's parking lot...  I had to go to one of those 
places.  There was a spanking breeze blowing which produced this tableau 
of flags in front of the Pirelli Tire nee Armstrong Rubber, now Ikea's 
concrete billboard. Ikea probably wishes they could tear it down to gain 
some more parking spaces, but the same Architectural preservation 
society which was set up try to keep examples of earlier buildings safe 
from the likes of this building is now protecting it.


Now some may think I don't approve of the former Armstrong Rubber 
building, and at one time I may have been ambivalent about it, but I've 
come to realize that if I ever became the head of an evil conspiracy to 
take over the world, I'd want it for my headquarters.


https://pdml.updog.co/webster26/PESO%20--%20unholyalliance.html

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Re: AF film lenses on DSLR

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I think that blue dot is the reflection of light off the sensor being 
reflected back by the rear element of the lens.  I don't think any light 
placement can eliminate it. The sensor surface is a lot shinier than 
film is.  Some great lenses cannot be used because of it.



On 11/3/2016 1:59 PM, Collin B wrote:

At work I got the FA50/2.8 macro to have something AF for working in the
darker warehouse area.
But what I've seen, and it's not just a Pentax situation, when using it with
the florescent lights for piece shots I get this blue dot in the middle of
the image.  Have yet to work with light placement to see if I can eliminate
it. But from what I've been reading it has to do with multiple factors, one
of which is the nature of the film coatings and the light
interactions/reflections with the sensor surface.
I only see the situation under the fl product lights.
Anyone else here have similar issues when product shooting?  If so, how did
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Re: Peso-Been Raining

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So Gonz complains to you about cutting off part of a rock, you complain 
to Jack about cutting off part of a boat, next Jack will complain to 
someone about cutting off...


On 11/3/2016 12:35 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
Glad to see you getting some water... it is now the opposite on th 
east coast..


I like the shot except one little nit.. the edge of the boat going off 
the frame...


ann


On 11/3/2016 11:32 AM, Jack Davis wrote:


Stopped to eat a home made lunch and check out the morning.
We're enjoying a wet fall at this point and the skiers are
already euphoric.
Last time I saw that small lake, it was a mud hole.

C?

J

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Re: OT: Masking Tape

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That's why they made painters tape.

On 11/3/2016 12:48 PM, John wrote:

I am amazed how the chemists at 3M were able to come up with an adhesive
that will stick to anything EXCEPT for whatever it is you're trying to
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Re: Peso: A different view - the Rachos de Taos Church

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Sorry I don't know what make of car it is, I will comment that I had 
been looking at old automobile advertisements featuring artists drawings 
from that era, and kept thinking that they must surely be exaggerating 
how long the cars were until I actually looked at some photographs, damn 
those cars were long and low to the ground.  They also all look alike to 
me.


On 11/3/2016 11:23 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

Malcolm... here is a bit about that church

https://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/american_latino_heritage/san_francisco_de_assisi_mission_church.html 



in the GESO on Taos , the first photo is one of mine of the front..

https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Taos-and-Santa-Fe-memories/ 



back in 1985 I was determined to take a photo of the church that was 
not often photographed.. it was a drizzly day and that added to the 
atmosphere.


ann


On 11/3/2016 3:52 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

ann sanfedele wrote:

This from Sept 1985...

https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Taos-and-Santa-Fe-memories 


/i-344kjR6/L
++

It's an intriguing image. I half expected the window in the picture 
to be a

door, but I presume the walkway continues, the door not even in the same
wall?

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Re: PESO - "2x2 = 4to"

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On 11/3/2016 10:39 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

Igor wrote:

http://42graphy.org/galleries/2016-08-05-RedSquare/_IR34357.html
++

Great image - are 'phone cameras taking over? I rarely see a DSLR used when
I'm out.

Malcolm




Phone cameras have pretty much displaced Bridge Cameras and P 
cameras.  I've even seen 8" tablets being used because the user thought 
the big display thought it equaled "quality".


However when I was at Gillette's Castle a couple of days ago I saw a 
couple of other DSLRs one looked like a D300, the other was too far away 
to identify, but looked to be about the same size as a 70/80D or D90.


There weren't that many people there, but everyone else who probably 
would have been using a P or Bridge a few years ago were taking 
pictures with their phones.


Also given that most bridge cameras are designed to mimic DSLRs, thats 
probably why you don't see a lot of DSLRs these days, you may not have 
been seeing a lot of DSLRs before.


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Re: PESO: Black and White

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That's what I did in my example the filter used was red. I've played 
with it a bit more, and a virtual green filter maintains the tones of 
the original in B better, and a virtual dark orange filter is a better 
compromise. Maintains more detail in the shadows, while not darkening 
the sky quite as much.  I'd post that one but I've already messed quite 
enough with Dan's image without actual permission.


On 11/3/2016 5:32 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
A first, quick, stab at converting my BNeige and Blue PESO to a black 
and

white abstract image:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18305976=lg
Comments are invited and appreciated.


Could you apply a virtual red or orange filter to darken the sky?



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Re: Peso: Cliche/homage/icon - ranchos de taos

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So there are a sets of footprints labeled Ansel Adams stood here, 
Georgia O'keefe stood here, etc., etc.  So if you want your own view 
don't stand in any of those places.


On 11/2/2016 10:32 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

also Georgia O'keefe's church, Elliot Porter's chruch... etc..

It was the obligatory view to check out ... :-)

ann


On 11/2/2016 7:06 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Isn't that Ansel's church?

J

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 1, 2016, at 9:06 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

arrow over one place for the BW version...(anticipating the 
suggestionfor what should be the obvious reason to some)


https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Taos-and-Santa-Fe-memories/i-mjgGSn7/A 



I'm working on a Taos/Santa Fe GESO which the peso is in, butthe 
other photos all need dust removal and other edits.. feel free to 
browse with


that in mind.. I'll replace them one by one as I get them cleaned up 
but at least you can see what they place looked like back a few 
years...


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Re: PESO: Black and White

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On 11/2/2016 5:22 PM, mike wilson wrote:

On 02 November 2016 at 21:06 "P.J. Alling" <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> wrote:


...a 14 tit K-5II raw file

I really need to upgrade.  Never managed more than six with the K3.



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Re: PESO: Black and White

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The 8 bit jpeg starts to break down when I start to play with it.  Hell 
I can torture a 14 tit K-5II raw file until it starts to break down, but 
I'm pretty sure that Dan's original file has more than enough data for 
me to get good separation in a final image.


On 11/2/2016 2:14 PM, Paul in MKE wrote:
The greater contrast looks good, but it's maybe a little too much.  On 
my monitor the really dark shadow on the left side loses separation 
from the sky.


-p


On 11/2/2016 9:33 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:
Dan, I think you gave up too soon. Just a quick and dirty conversion, 
I could probably do much better if I had the original raw file.  I'll 
take it down in a day or so to give you a chance to look at it.


https://pdml.updog.co/temp/bwpueblofordan.html

On 11/2/2016 12:13 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
A first, quick, stab at converting my BNeige and Blue PESO to a 
black and

white abstract image:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18305976=lg
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Re: Mike Johnston and Ken Kennyboy Rockwell.

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I don't think he liked it when I called him out on his assumption of 
moral superiority either.  I thought it was simply a rhetorical trick he 
was using, but maybe he really did feel morally superior.


On 11/2/2016 10:31 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Way back when MJ was still on this list i posted an email that may
have had a cat photo in it but i also made a fire arms reference. He
got all in a huff about that and left.

Dave

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 10:08 AM, P.J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> wrote:

Because it wouldn't be torture for Kennyboy, to be forced to take cat
pictures, but for the rest of us...

Won't even mention the cat.


On 11/2/2016 9:54 AM, John wrote:

Who cares what *he* thinks?

On 11/1/2016 7:28 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

If you've ever seen Kennyboy's work you should realize he already
/thinks/ he can take the best possible cat photos.  In fact he thinks he
takes the best photos period.

On 11/1/2016 4:48 PM, John wrote:

Why not just force them to see who can take the better cat photo?

On 11/1/2016 1:33 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

We should make them have a minor-celebrity naked mud-wrestling death
match. The winner gets a half-price copy of "How to Instagram Clichéd
Landscapes" by Peter Lik.

B


On 1 Nov 2016, at 15:59, P.J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Every time Mike Johnston mentions Kennyboy my respect for him drops
another notch, two when it actually has something to do with
photography.  At the rate he's going I'll have to dig a new sub
basement to contain my regard for him.


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Re: PESO: Black and White

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Dan, I think you gave up too soon. Just a quick and dirty conversion, I 
could probably do much better if I had the original raw file.  I'll take 
it down in a day or so to give you a chance to look at it.


https://pdml.updog.co/temp/bwpueblofordan.html

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A first, quick, stab at converting my BNeige and Blue PESO to a black and
white abstract image:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18305976=lg
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Re: PESO: Black and White

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Try a pseudo red filter in you're conversion, or maybe a green.  Two 
different effects but either might be an improvement.


On 11/2/2016 12:13 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

A first, quick, stab at converting my BNeige and Blue PESO to a black and
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Re: Mike Johnston and Ken Kennyboy Rockwell.

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Because it wouldn't be torture for Kennyboy, to be forced to take cat 
pictures, but for the rest of us...


Won't even mention the cat.

On 11/2/2016 9:54 AM, John wrote:

Who cares what *he* thinks?

On 11/1/2016 7:28 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

If you've ever seen Kennyboy's work you should realize he already
/thinks/ he can take the best possible cat photos.  In fact he thinks he
takes the best photos period.

On 11/1/2016 4:48 PM, John wrote:

Why not just force them to see who can take the better cat photo?

On 11/1/2016 1:33 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

We should make them have a minor-celebrity naked mud-wrestling death
match. The winner gets a half-price copy of "How to Instagram Clichéd
Landscapes" by Peter Lik.

B


On 1 Nov 2016, at 15:59, P.J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Every time Mike Johnston mentions Kennyboy my respect for him drops
another notch, two when it actually has something to do with
photography.  At the rate he's going I'll have to dig a new sub
basement to contain my regard for him.


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Re: PESO - 'Taos View' for ann

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I remember film, I remember adobe too.

On 11/1/2016 4:25 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Something like this ann ?

Taken in the days of film (remember what that was?)

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18305817

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Re: PESO - Getting the Point

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Walt Disney would not approve.

On 11/1/2016 4:39 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso30.html

Comments, as always, welcomed.

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Re: Mike Johnston and Ken Kennyboy Rockwell.

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If you've ever seen Kennyboy's work you should realize he already 
/thinks/ he can take the best possible cat photos.  In fact he thinks he 
takes the best photos period.


On 11/1/2016 4:48 PM, John wrote:

Why not just force them to see who can take the better cat photo?

On 11/1/2016 1:33 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

We should make them have a minor-celebrity naked mud-wrestling death
match. The winner gets a half-price copy of "How to Instagram Clichéd
Landscapes" by Peter Lik.

B


On 1 Nov 2016, at 15:59, P.J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Every time Mike Johnston mentions Kennyboy my respect for him drops
another notch, two when it actually has something to do with
photography.  At the rate he's going I'll have to dig a new sub
basement to contain my regard for him.


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Mike Johnston and Ken Kennyboy Rockwell.

[P.J. Alling]

Every time Mike Johnston mentions Kennyboy my respect for him drops 
another notch, two when it actually has something to do with 
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Re: Fast Normal Zoom. (for APS-C)

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OK, at this point I'm leaning towards the Tamron 17-50 f2.8.  The one 
report I've had from the list about it is that it's optically very 
good.  The outside reviews complain about it's plasticy build, and noisy 
AF motor, but hell large numbers of even fairly expensive lenses are 
mostly plastic these days and all my current AF lenses are screw drive, 
I wouldn't know what to do if a lens didn't make /some/ noise.  The 
kicker is that Amazon is selling the damned things for a tiny bit less 
than $250.00 grey market.


Optically it appears to be on par with the Pentax DA 16-50, and Sigma 
17-50 for approximately 1/3 and 3/5 the price of the former and latter 
respectively.  True it's got the same warranty you'd get if you bought a 
used lens but even then it's less than 1/2 the price of a LN used 
Pentax, and about the same as the LN used Sigma.


The only fly in the ointment is that the USA version of the Tamaron has 
a 6 year guarantee, does it need it.  I know that was the selling point 
of early imported Hyundai automobiles, they had the longest warranty in 
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Re: OT this guy has more cameras than you

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Someone to serve as a horrible example.

On 10/31/2016 12:57 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

<<< 62-year-old Dilish Parekh lives among some 4,600 cameras—the
largest camera collection in the world, which has made Parekh the
Guinness record holder since 2003. “I probably need 10,000 square feet
to lay them out, but that is impossible in this city,” he says of
Mumbai >>>

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Re: In other news Ken Rockwell is still an idiot.

[P.J. Alling]

But I thought Larry deserved an explanation since he actually looked at 
some of his photographic output.  I'll apologize for that here.  Sorry, 
Larry.


On 10/31/2016 11:23 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

. But I didn't ask .  (VBG)


-Original Message-

From: "P.J. Alling" <webstertwenty...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: In other news Ken Rockwell is still an idiot.

Let's just say I was continuing my lens research, got a link that google
told me was connected, and clicked on it without looking at the
destination.  I ended up at his review of the K-3II.  I'll summarize,
makes great images, hate the ergonomics, Canon and Nikon make better.

Even though it was overall positive, he really liked the image quality,
(probably of the Jpegs as I highly doubt he actually processed any raw
files), and I agreed with some of his criticism, (though his take is
because he doesn't like something it's objectively bad, rather than a
subjective matter of taste, something he has no capability of separating
even if he thinks about it, indicates his weak mind.  His basic
/deserved/ insecurity, about his lack of skills comes through in his
writing style.  The actual tone of most of his writing could basically
be described as the digitalrev guys in print, something that doesn't
translate well, without the actual talent and sense of humor.  A man's
got to know his limitations and stick within them.

Now I've actually given his review /more/ time than it deserves. Reading
it was 10 minutes of my life, I will never get back. Venting actually
felt cathartic.

On 10/31/2016 3:12 AM, Larry Colen wrote:


P.J. Alling wrote:

Don't even ask.

You are an evil man. I was curious "what now?", so I went to his
website. I must not have ever actually seen any of Ken Rockwell's
photos, now I have, and I can't unsee them. I blame you.





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Re: PESO: All Together Now

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I didn't say it wasn't a beautiful shot, just that I have a bizarre take 
on it.


On 10/30/2016 1:40 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

Makes me think of Animal Farm rather than Disney. It's a beautiful shot.

B


On 30 Oct 2016, at 16:27, P.J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> wrote:

Na, if this was Disney, there'd be at least a cat, riding on one of the horses, 
a dog, a fox, at one or more dear, and a bunch of smaller birds flying around.

I you want to see this the right way, think of it as a herd of gigantic mice, 
and a bunch of miniaturized feathered dinosaurs sharing a walk in a field.  
That's what I did.


On 10/30/2016 12:09 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
"Almost a Disney scene:"  almost kept me from looking :-)

Who is herding who here?  I love those horses, but prefer the other shot you 
showed us... this one actually is a bit too Disney

ann



On 10/30/2016 3:50 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:
Almost a Disney scene: <http://flic.kr/p/NC4iJy> http://flic.kr/p/NC4iJy


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Re: In other news Ken Rockwell is still an idiot.

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Let's just say I was continuing my lens research, got a link that google 
told me was connected, and clicked on it without looking at the 
destination.  I ended up at his review of the K-3II.  I'll summarize, 
makes great images, hate the ergonomics, Canon and Nikon make better.


Even though it was overall positive, he really liked the image quality, 
(probably of the Jpegs as I highly doubt he actually processed any raw 
files), and I agreed with some of his criticism, (though his take is 
because he doesn't like something it's objectively bad, rather than a 
subjective matter of taste, something he has no capability of separating 
even if he thinks about it, indicates his weak mind.  His basic 
/deserved/ insecurity, about his lack of skills comes through in his 
writing style.  The actual tone of most of his writing could basically 
be described as the digitalrev guys in print, something that doesn't 
translate well, without the actual talent and sense of humor.  A man's 
got to know his limitations and stick within them.


Now I've actually given his review /more/ time than it deserves. Reading 
it was 10 minutes of my life, I will never get back. Venting actually 
felt cathartic.


On 10/31/2016 3:12 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



P.J. Alling wrote:

Don't even ask.


You are an evil man. I was curious "what now?", so I went to his 
website. I must not have ever actually seen any of Ken Rockwell's 
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In other news Ken Rockwell is still an idiot.

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Don't even ask.


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PESO -- Once Adrift

[P.J. Alling]

It was a beautiful day before the rains came.  Just before the skies 
opened I was able to capture this.


https://pdml.updog.co/webster26/PESO%20--%20onceadrift.html

Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/smc Pentax F 70-210mm f4.0~5.6

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Re: Fast Normal Zoom. (for APS-C)

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It's only a stop slower than the other 16/17mm-50/55mm lenses, and the 
same speed as the Pentax 17-70mm. Everything I've heard about it is 
good, but I ruled it out because I've been looking for something that 
fills in the gap between the short zoom and one of the 70-210mm lenses I 
tend to favor.


On 10/30/2016 2:12 PM, Sandy Harris wrote:

I have the 16-45 Pentax DA F4 and am quite happy with it. It may not
be fast enough for you, but for me it works well.

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P.J. Alling wrote:


It doesn't look like a Full Frame camera is in my budget for quite some
time, and let's face it, I've come to terms with APS-C. The K-5II is
more than sufficient for most of what I do, in fact is better than most
needs. A more identical backup body is what I'm more likely to get than
an actual full frame camera, maybe a K-7 another K-5[II(s)], or K3
thought the latter would have some of the same problems as using the
K20D as backup, though the K5II hasn't failed me yet.

So I'm looking at APS-C lenses.

I've kind of narrowed it down to five lenses, at this point, based on
reviews.

Pentax FA* 16-55 f2.8 available new.


Somewhat to my surprise, my DA*16-50/2.8 became my daily driver lens once I
got my K-5, which had enough sensor sensitivity that I could get by with a
slow lens.  It's reasonably sharp, reasonably fast, waterproof and a handy
range.

However, if I didn't have the K-1, I'd be looking at a Sigma 18-35/1.8. The
downsides are a bit less range, and it is not weather sealed.

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