Re: Awaiting takeoff
On Dec 4, 2007, at 16:28, Bob W wrote: That's a perfectly simple, civilised way to do things, and uses an existing process, so no real additional cost to them. The difference being, you live in a civilized country! :-( -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Awaiting takeoff
On Dec 3, 2007 6:05 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's theft. Well, what they said to me wasn't quite theft. They were basically saying, You're not getting on the plane with that U-lock. It's too late to check it in your luggage (which has already been loaded). You can keep your lock, if you wish to miss your flight. They weren't actually taking it from me, they were allowing me to give it to them, so I could get on that airplane. ;-) FWIW, they did say that I could quick run back to give the lock to the person who drove me to the airport so they could mail it to me; problem is, I took public transit. Besides, for the cost of postage (it was quite a heavy lock) and possible import duties (you know, to protect the burgeoning Canadian bicycle lock industry), it was cheaper for me to just buy a new one upon arrival home. They would have held it for a brief period of time so someone could come to the airport to retrieve it, but again, that would not have been feasible or cost-effective (see above). While it may have been constructive theft, it wasn't legally stealing. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Once upon a time while vacationing in San Diego, I left the visegrip in my camera bag. Visegrips are a kind of locking pliers and mine were camera modified. Some bolts were welded onto them so a small ball head could be mounted, and they could be used as a tripod base. TSA was not amused when I tried to pass with this heavy, black anodized thing. I was with my family, so I gave them the rest of the camera bag and ran back to the front counter. The check-in clerks came up with a spare box of about 1 cubic foot, but no dunnage. I put the visegrips (about the size of a hand) into the box, added my name/address, and sealed it with borrowed tape. Then they checked the box for me to Chicago. It was essentially an empty box with a 1-2 pound metal thing inside. Shake it and the visegrips bounced from side to side. The visegrips made it with me to Chicago, but kept on traveling with the plane. Nobody thought too seriously of an old cardboard box in the cargo bay. I squealed for my custom made visegrips, and they returned to Chicago some days later. I try to get the camera bag 'repacked' before I go thru security now. Regards, Bob S. On Dec 4, 2007 7:38 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 3, 2007 6:05 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's theft. Well, what they said to me wasn't quite theft. They were basically saying, You're not getting on the plane with that U-lock. It's too late to check it in your luggage (which has already been loaded). You can keep your lock, if you wish to miss your flight. They weren't actually taking it from me, they were allowing me to give it to them, so I could get on that airplane. ;-) FWIW, they did say that I could quick run back to give the lock to the person who drove me to the airport so they could mail it to me; problem is, I took public transit. Besides, for the cost of postage (it was quite a heavy lock) and possible import duties (you know, to protect the burgeoning Canadian bicycle lock industry), it was cheaper for me to just buy a new one upon arrival home. They would have held it for a brief period of time so someone could come to the airport to retrieve it, but again, that would not have been feasible or cost-effective (see above). While it may have been constructive theft, it wasn't legally stealing. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Awaiting takeoff
Like I said, the Vivitar 90-180mm flat field would make one hell of a club. They let me fly with it all the time. Must be your face... frank theriault wrote: On Dec 3, 2007 6:37 AM, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was in Michigan again right after Thanksgiving for my sister's wedding(see my earlier post for the funny photographer story). Our plane home was delayed so we sat in the airport in Flint for a couple hours I took this out the window while somebody else's plane home was getting ready for takeoff. K10 and FA 28-105. I adjusted the white balance and may have upped the sharpening a little in the conversion. http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/3930734#228209720 By the way, they let me take my tripod as a carry-on. Our big suitcase was too heavy on check-in (odd because it actually had less stuff than when we flew up...) They wanted us to take 5# out or pay a $50 overage charge. The first thing I thought of was the tripod so it came out. Some other stuff came out and was packed into the garment bags. It wasn't until I was in the line at security that I started to think about how many ways the tripod could be used as a weapon... I heard the screener say Oh, that's a bunch of camera lenses... and a really nice camera... tripod... ok, it's all good. I was pleased because I didn't know what we were going to do at that point if they balked. Cool shot. I always thought that job (de-icing airplanes) would be one of the coldest jobs in the world. I haven't flown for over two years. Last time it was with my bike, and I put my bike's U-lock in my carry-on so it wouldn't rattle around and hurt my bike (which was boxed and checked). They confiscated it. Said I could use it as a bludgeon. I tried to explain that a pen would make a better weapon than a lock, but the nice man disagreed. $40 down the tubes. Oh well. cheers, frank -- The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University football team. -- P. J. O'Roark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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No that's choice, you don't have to take the flight. Bob W wrote: that's theft. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amita Guha Sent: 03 December 2007 21:12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Awaiting takeoff I heard that the TSA here in the States sells the things they confiscate on ebay. Do a search for NTSA on ebay and see what comes up. Amita -- The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University football team. -- P. J. O'Roark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Actually, I've had them offer to FedEx a pocket knife to my home for me. At a cost of twice the replacement price. I declined. cbwaters wrote: Well, they can't take your stuff from you BUT...Most times by the time you get to the screeners you've waited a while and you're not inclined to go back to your car or house to deposit the offending gack. They'll gladly deposit your property in a bin from which there is no getting your stuff back. TSA sells your stuff. Very nice public service. CW - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 2:57 PM Subject: RE: Awaiting takeoff they can't just take these things, Frank. They have to give them back. I went through Gatwick about a year ago and forgot that I was carrying a Swiss Army knife. They took it off me, but gave it back when I returned. -- Bob [...] I haven't flown for over two years. Last time it was with my bike, and I put my bike's U-lock in my carry-on so it wouldn't rattle around and hurt my bike (which was boxed and checked). They confiscated it. Said I could use it as a bludgeon. I tried to explain that a pen would make a better weapon than a lock, but the nice man disagreed. $40 down the tubes. Oh well. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.13/1165 - Release Date: 12/2/2007 8:34 PM -- The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University football team. -- P. J. O'Roark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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A while ago, a co worker of mine was told by TSA he couldn't take his shaving razor on board. He took it back to the ticket counter where the agent boxed it for him it was shipped as baggage ! Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Awaiting takeoff I heard that the TSA here in the States sells the things they confiscate on ebay. Do a search for NTSA on ebay and see what comes up. Amita On Dec 3, 2007 2:57 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they can't just take these things, Frank. They have to give them back. I went through Gatwick about a year ago and forgot that I was carrying a Swiss Army knife. They took it off me, but gave it back when I returned. -- Bob [...] I haven't flown for over two years. Last time it was with my bike, and I put my bike's U-lock in my carry-on so it wouldn't rattle around and hurt my bike (which was boxed and checked). They confiscated it. Said I could use it as a bludgeon. I tried to explain that a pen would make a better weapon than a lock, but the nice man disagreed. $40 down the tubes. Oh well. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Awaiting takeoff
On internal flights in Ethiopia they make you put small things like penknives, batteries, kalashnikovs and anything else they object to in a large bucket which goes in the hold. At the end of the flight there's a free-for-all round the bucket while you try to stop other people walking off with your weaponry. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Waller Sent: 04 December 2007 21:39 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Awaiting takeoff A while ago, a co worker of mine was told by TSA he couldn't take his shaving razor on board. He took it back to the ticket counter where the agent boxed it for him it was shipped as baggage ! Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Awaiting takeoff I heard that the TSA here in the States sells the things they confiscate on ebay. Do a search for NTSA on ebay and see what comes up. Amita On Dec 3, 2007 2:57 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they can't just take these things, Frank. They have to give them back. I went through Gatwick about a year ago and forgot that I was carrying a Swiss Army knife. They took it off me, but gave it back when I returned. -- Bob [...] I haven't flown for over two years. Last time it was with my bike, and I put my bike's U-lock in my carry-on so it wouldn't rattle around and hurt my bike (which was boxed and checked). They confiscated it. Said I could use it as a bludgeon. I tried to explain that a pen would make a better weapon than a lock, but the nice man disagreed. $40 down the tubes. Oh well. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Awaiting takeoff
Over here they treat it as they would lost property, and presume that you've made an innocent mistake. In my case I had a knife in my camera bag, and I'd forgotten about it (I keep one in there out of habit). They took it from me, tagged it, gave me a receipt and asked me to collect it from lost property when I came back (I think they may have charged five quid), or they would post it to me for a fee. That's a perfectly simple, civilised way to do things, and uses an existing process, so no real additional cost to them. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: 04 December 2007 18:35 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Awaiting takeoff No that's choice, you don't have to take the flight. Bob W wrote: that's theft. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amita Guha Sent: 03 December 2007 21:12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Awaiting takeoff I heard that the TSA here in the States sells the things they confiscate on ebay. Do a search for NTSA on ebay and see what comes up. Amita -- The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University football team. -- P. J. O'Roark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Awaiting takeoff
I was in Michigan again right after Thanksgiving for my sister's wedding(see my earlier post for the funny photographer story). Our plane home was delayed so we sat in the airport in Flint for a couple hours I took this out the window while somebody else's plane home was getting ready for takeoff. K10 and FA 28-105. I adjusted the white balance and may have upped the sharpening a little in the conversion. http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/3930734#228209720 By the way, they let me take my tripod as a carry-on. Our big suitcase was too heavy on check-in (odd because it actually had less stuff than when we flew up...) They wanted us to take 5# out or pay a $50 overage charge. The first thing I thought of was the tripod so it came out. Some other stuff came out and was packed into the garment bags. It wasn't until I was in the line at security that I started to think about how many ways the tripod could be used as a weapon... I heard the screener say Oh, that's a bunch of camera lenses... and a really nice camera... tripod... ok, it's all good. I was pleased because I didn't know what we were going to do at that point if they balked. CW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Looks like they took the other wing inside to warm it up.:-) Remember, tripod=pro, they had to let you on. Dave On Dec 3, 2007 6:37 AM, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was in Michigan again right after Thanksgiving for my sister's wedding(see my earlier post for the funny photographer story). Our plane home was delayed so we sat in the airport in Flint for a couple hours I took this out the window while somebody else's plane home was getting ready for takeoff. K10 and FA 28-105. I adjusted the white balance and may have upped the sharpening a little in the conversion. http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/3930734#228209720 By the way, they let me take my tripod as a carry-on. Our big suitcase was too heavy on check-in (odd because it actually had less stuff than when we flew up...) They wanted us to take 5# out or pay a $50 overage charge. The first thing I thought of was the tripod so it came out. Some other stuff came out and was packed into the garment bags. It wasn't until I was in the line at security that I started to think about how many ways the tripod could be used as a weapon... I heard the screener say Oh, that's a bunch of camera lenses... and a really nice camera... tripod... ok, it's all good. I was pleased because I didn't know what we were going to do at that point if they balked. CW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Awaiting takeoff
On Dec 3, 2007 6:37 AM, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was in Michigan again right after Thanksgiving for my sister's wedding(see my earlier post for the funny photographer story). Our plane home was delayed so we sat in the airport in Flint for a couple hours I took this out the window while somebody else's plane home was getting ready for takeoff. K10 and FA 28-105. I adjusted the white balance and may have upped the sharpening a little in the conversion. http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/3930734#228209720 By the way, they let me take my tripod as a carry-on. Our big suitcase was too heavy on check-in (odd because it actually had less stuff than when we flew up...) They wanted us to take 5# out or pay a $50 overage charge. The first thing I thought of was the tripod so it came out. Some other stuff came out and was packed into the garment bags. It wasn't until I was in the line at security that I started to think about how many ways the tripod could be used as a weapon... I heard the screener say Oh, that's a bunch of camera lenses... and a really nice camera... tripod... ok, it's all good. I was pleased because I didn't know what we were going to do at that point if they balked. Cool shot. I always thought that job (de-icing airplanes) would be one of the coldest jobs in the world. I haven't flown for over two years. Last time it was with my bike, and I put my bike's U-lock in my carry-on so it wouldn't rattle around and hurt my bike (which was boxed and checked). They confiscated it. Said I could use it as a bludgeon. I tried to explain that a pen would make a better weapon than a lock, but the nice man disagreed. $40 down the tubes. Oh well. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Awaiting takeoff
they can't just take these things, Frank. They have to give them back. I went through Gatwick about a year ago and forgot that I was carrying a Swiss Army knife. They took it off me, but gave it back when I returned. -- Bob [...] I haven't flown for over two years. Last time it was with my bike, and I put my bike's U-lock in my carry-on so it wouldn't rattle around and hurt my bike (which was boxed and checked). They confiscated it. Said I could use it as a bludgeon. I tried to explain that a pen would make a better weapon than a lock, but the nice man disagreed. $40 down the tubes. Oh well. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I heard that the TSA here in the States sells the things they confiscate on ebay. Do a search for NTSA on ebay and see what comes up. Amita On Dec 3, 2007 2:57 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they can't just take these things, Frank. They have to give them back. I went through Gatwick about a year ago and forgot that I was carrying a Swiss Army knife. They took it off me, but gave it back when I returned. -- Bob [...] I haven't flown for over two years. Last time it was with my bike, and I put my bike's U-lock in my carry-on so it wouldn't rattle around and hurt my bike (which was boxed and checked). They confiscated it. Said I could use it as a bludgeon. I tried to explain that a pen would make a better weapon than a lock, but the nice man disagreed. $40 down the tubes. Oh well. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Awaiting takeoff
Well, they can't take your stuff from you BUT...Most times by the time you get to the screeners you've waited a while and you're not inclined to go back to your car or house to deposit the offending gack. They'll gladly deposit your property in a bin from which there is no getting your stuff back. TSA sells your stuff. Very nice public service. CW - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 2:57 PM Subject: RE: Awaiting takeoff they can't just take these things, Frank. They have to give them back. I went through Gatwick about a year ago and forgot that I was carrying a Swiss Army knife. They took it off me, but gave it back when I returned. -- Bob [...] I haven't flown for over two years. Last time it was with my bike, and I put my bike's U-lock in my carry-on so it wouldn't rattle around and hurt my bike (which was boxed and checked). They confiscated it. Said I could use it as a bludgeon. I tried to explain that a pen would make a better weapon than a lock, but the nice man disagreed. $40 down the tubes. Oh well. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.13/1165 - Release Date: 12/2/2007 8:34 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Awaiting takeoff
that's theft. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amita Guha Sent: 03 December 2007 21:12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Awaiting takeoff I heard that the TSA here in the States sells the things they confiscate on ebay. Do a search for NTSA on ebay and see what comes up. Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bob W wrote: that's theft. Behalf Of Amita Guha I heard that the TSA here in the States sells the things they confiscate on ebay. Do a search for NTSA on ebay and see what comes up. Yep, and just like the Income Tax, it's enshrined in US law. :-) The way the law reads, IIRC, you can't take it on the plane, but you can take it back to your car or elsewhere (that's not on the plane), or you can donate it to them (the TSA). -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 3, 2007 6:05 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's theft. George Orwell just had the date wrong. Dave -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amita Guha Sent: 03 December 2007 21:12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Awaiting takeoff I heard that the TSA here in the States sells the things they confiscate on ebay. Do a search for NTSA on ebay and see what comes up. Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've always thought that the Vivitar 90-180 flat field lens would make a nice short heavy club. But they've always let me carry it on, no muss no fuss. cbwaters wrote: I was in Michigan again right after Thanksgiving for my sister's wedding(see my earlier post for the funny photographer story). Our plane home was delayed so we sat in the airport in Flint for a couple hours I took this out the window while somebody else's plane home was getting ready for takeoff. K10 and FA 28-105. I adjusted the white balance and may have upped the sharpening a little in the conversion. http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/3930734#228209720 By the way, they let me take my tripod as a carry-on. Our big suitcase was too heavy on check-in (odd because it actually had less stuff than when we flew up...) They wanted us to take 5# out or pay a $50 overage charge. The first thing I thought of was the tripod so it came out. Some other stuff came out and was packed into the garment bags. It wasn't until I was in the line at security that I started to think about how many ways the tripod could be used as a weapon... I heard the screener say Oh, that's a bunch of camera lenses... and a really nice camera... tripod... ok, it's all good. I was pleased because I didn't know what we were going to do at that point if they balked. CW -- The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University football team. -- P. J. O'Roark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
