RE: For PZ1p / Z1p users
You are probably right, Dario. I had a Z1 and Z1p for years. I never used this USER function. It's too complicated. The camera is complicated enough with out this. Tell him to go and take some pictures in stead of spending so much time with the manual. IIRC USER SET is the mode for choosing the standard fucnktions. The USER function is for when you want to photograph, using the chosen functions. The K10D has a similar feature. But much more user friendly. I guess Initializing means beginning - meaning getting ready for choosing/changing USER funtctions - your standard set up. The manual is here: http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/manual/PZ-1p.pdf Regards Jens Bladt Nytarkort / Greeting Card: http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Dario Bonazza Sendt: 19. februar 2007 19:13 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: For PZ1p / Z1p users Hi, A friend of mine is going crazy with his newly purchased secondhand Z1p and rings me all the time to get explanations. Today the main question is what's the difference between: 1 - USER SET FUNCTION procedure explained on page 74 of the user manual. and 2 -Initializing the USER SET FUNCTION as explained on page 75. My guess is that the procedure on page 74 tells you how to customize the USER position of the main switch, while the so called Initialization on page 75 is how to reset to default settings. Unfortunately I don't have a Z1p at hand and the Z1p owner is not smart enough to understand what's going on with his camera, as he is only accustomed to classic mechanical SLR's interface, while the Z1p is apparently too much a step for him at all at once. Any comments? Thanks a lot. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.2/692 - Release Date: 02/18/2007 16:35 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/699 - Release Date: 02/23/2007 13:26 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
For PZ1p / Z1p users
Hi, A friend of mine is going crazy with his newly purchased secondhand Z1p and rings me all the time to get explanations. Today the main question is what's the difference between: 1 - USER SET FUNCTION procedure explained on page 74 of the user manual. and 2 -Initializing the USER SET FUNCTION as explained on page 75. My guess is that the procedure on page 74 tells you how to customize the USER position of the main switch, while the so called Initialization on page 75 is how to reset to default settings. Unfortunately I don't have a Z1p at hand and the Z1p owner is not smart enough to understand what's going on with his camera, as he is only accustomed to classic mechanical SLR's interface, while the Z1p is apparently too much a step for him at all at once. Any comments? Thanks a lot. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: For PZ1p / Z1p users
It looks to me as though initializing the User Set Functions means clearing them. I used a PZ-1p for 10 years and at least 500 rolls of film, and never used the User Set feature. Rick --- Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, A friend of mine is going crazy with his newly purchased secondhand Z1p and rings me all the time to get explanations. Today the main question is what's the difference between: 1 - USER SET FUNCTION procedure explained on page 74 of the user manual. and 2 -Initializing the USER SET FUNCTION as explained on page 75. My guess is that the procedure on page 74 tells you how to customize the USER position of the main switch, while the so called Initialization on page 75 is how to reset to default settings. Unfortunately I don't have a Z1p at hand and the Z1p owner is not smart enough to understand what's going on with his camera, as he is only accustomed to classic mechanical SLR's interface, while the Z1p is apparently too much a step for him at all at once. Any comments? Thanks a lot. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: For PZ1p / Z1p users
I as well used the PZ-1p for quite a while and never used the User Set feature. But I know it's useful to some photographers, though I would certainly say he should get to know the camera and most of its functions quite well before using the User Set functions at all. By then, he'll have a pretty good idea of what particular set of shooting conditions and settings he'd most like to have available as a quick memorized setting. Joe It looks to me as though initializing the User Set Functions means clearing them. I used a PZ-1p for 10 years and at least 500 rolls of film, and never used the User Set feature. Rick --- Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, A friend of mine is going crazy with his newly purchased secondhand Z1p and rings me all the time to get explanations. Today the main question is what's the difference between: 1 - USER SET FUNCTION procedure explained on page 74 of the user manual. and 2 -Initializing the USER SET FUNCTION as explained on page 75. My guess is that the procedure on page 74 tells you how to customize the USER position of the main switch, while the so called Initialization on page 75 is how to reset to default settings. Unfortunately I don't have a Z1p at hand and the Z1p owner is not smart enough to understand what's going on with his camera, as he is only accustomed to classic mechanical SLR's interface, while the Z1p is apparently too much a step for him at all at once. Any comments? Thanks a lot. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: For PZ1p / Z1p users
From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/19 Mon PM 06:13:06 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: For PZ1p / Z1p users Hi, A friend of mine is going crazy with his newly purchased secondhand Z1p and rings me all the time to get explanations. Today the main question is what's the difference between: 1 - USER SET FUNCTION procedure explained on page 74 of the user manual. and 2 -Initializing the USER SET FUNCTION as explained on page 75. My guess is that the procedure on page 74 tells you how to customize the USER position of the main switch, while the so called Initialization on page 75 is how to reset to default settings. Unfortunately I don't have a Z1p at hand and the Z1p owner is not smart enough to understand what's going on with his camera, as he is only accustomed to classic mechanical SLR's interface, while the Z1p is apparently too much a step for him at all at once. You are right, the Initialisation does remove all settings... Not sure if it defaults to a specific set or just takes up what is set for the On position. That's what mine just did. To be fair to your friend, the manual is a classic mistranslation. I find it exceptionally tortuous and obtuse. Still haven't worked out some parts. Any comments? Thanks a lot. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: For PZ1p / Z1p users
To be fair to your friend, the manual is a classic mistranslation. I find it exceptionally tortuous and obtuse. Still haven't worked out some parts. Amen. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: For PZ1p / Z1p users
Thanks Rick. My friend's problem was also due to a further mis-translation from English to Italian, since Initializing on page 75 has been translated into Activating, which sure won't help in understanding it means Resetting. OK, my friend came home and we tried initializing the USER SET function, and it works how I explained him at the phone. Apparently, doing that at Dario's home was a good way to calm down that worried guy (which I guess won't truly need the USER function :-). Dario - Original Message - From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:17 PM Subject: Re: For PZ1p / Z1p users It looks to me as though initializing the User Set Functions means clearing them. I used a PZ-1p for 10 years and at least 500 rolls of film, and never used the User Set feature. Rick --- Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, A friend of mine is going crazy with his newly purchased secondhand Z1p and rings me all the time to get explanations. Today the main question is what's the difference between: 1 - USER SET FUNCTION procedure explained on page 74 of the user manual. and 2 -Initializing the USER SET FUNCTION as explained on page 75. My guess is that the procedure on page 74 tells you how to customize the USER position of the main switch, while the so called Initialization on page 75 is how to reset to default settings. Unfortunately I don't have a Z1p at hand and the Z1p owner is not smart enough to understand what's going on with his camera, as he is only accustomed to classic mechanical SLR's interface, while the Z1p is apparently too much a step for him at all at once. Any comments? Thanks a lot. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: For PZ1p / Z1p users
Thanks Mike. I understand what you mean. ten years ago I used the Z1p for a weekend or two, and I also found some problems in understanding all its functions by following the manual. Dario - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:42 PM Subject: Re: For PZ1p / Z1p users From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/19 Mon PM 06:13:06 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: For PZ1p / Z1p users Hi, A friend of mine is going crazy with his newly purchased secondhand Z1p and rings me all the time to get explanations. Today the main question is what's the difference between: 1 - USER SET FUNCTION procedure explained on page 74 of the user manual. and 2 -Initializing the USER SET FUNCTION as explained on page 75. My guess is that the procedure on page 74 tells you how to customize the USER position of the main switch, while the so called Initialization on page 75 is how to reset to default settings. Unfortunately I don't have a Z1p at hand and the Z1p owner is not smart enough to understand what's going on with his camera, as he is only accustomed to classic mechanical SLR's interface, while the Z1p is apparently too much a step for him at all at once. You are right, the Initialisation does remove all settings... Not sure if it defaults to a specific set or just takes up what is set for the On position. That's what mine just did. To be fair to your friend, the manual is a classic mistranslation. I find it exceptionally tortuous and obtuse. Still haven't worked out some parts. Any comments? Thanks a lot. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: For PZ1p / Z1p users
Thanks Joe. However, apparently the mein problem is that the guy couldn't sleep without understanding each and every bit of his new camera. Dario - Original Message - From: Joe Wilensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:30 PM Subject: Re: For PZ1p / Z1p users I as well used the PZ-1p for quite a while and never used the User Set feature. But I know it's useful to some photographers, though I would certainly say he should get to know the camera and most of its functions quite well before using the User Set functions at all. By then, he'll have a pretty good idea of what particular set of shooting conditions and settings he'd most like to have available as a quick memorized setting. Joe It looks to me as though initializing the User Set Functions means clearing them. I used a PZ-1p for 10 years and at least 500 rolls of film, and never used the User Set feature. Rick --- Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, A friend of mine is going crazy with his newly purchased secondhand Z1p and rings me all the time to get explanations. Today the main question is what's the difference between: 1 - USER SET FUNCTION procedure explained on page 74 of the user manual. and 2 -Initializing the USER SET FUNCTION as explained on page 75. My guess is that the procedure on page 74 tells you how to customize the USER position of the main switch, while the so called Initialization on page 75 is how to reset to default settings. Unfortunately I don't have a Z1p at hand and the Z1p owner is not smart enough to understand what's going on with his camera, as he is only accustomed to classic mechanical SLR's interface, while the Z1p is apparently too much a step for him at all at once. Any comments? Thanks a lot. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: For PZ1p / Z1p users
Dario, He's in for some sleepless nights! I've still got a PZ-1p with some film in it and an instruction manual somewhere. Ask if you have more problems. Regards, Bob S. On 2/19/07, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Joe. However, apparently the mein problem is that the guy couldn't sleep without understanding each and every bit of his new camera. Dario - Original Message - From: Joe Wilensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:30 PM Subject: Re: For PZ1p / Z1p users I as well used the PZ-1p for quite a while and never used the User Set feature. But I know it's useful to some photographers, though I would certainly say he should get to know the camera and most of its functions quite well before using the User Set functions at all. By then, he'll have a pretty good idea of what particular set of shooting conditions and settings he'd most like to have available as a quick memorized setting. Joe It looks to me as though initializing the User Set Functions means clearing them. I used a PZ-1p for 10 years and at least 500 rolls of film, and never used the User Set feature. Rick --- Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, A friend of mine is going crazy with his newly purchased secondhand Z1p and rings me all the time to get explanations. Today the main question is what's the difference between: 1 - USER SET FUNCTION procedure explained on page 74 of the user manual. and 2 -Initializing the USER SET FUNCTION as explained on page 75. My guess is that the procedure on page 74 tells you how to customize the USER position of the main switch, while the so called Initialization on page 75 is how to reset to default settings. Unfortunately I don't have a Z1p at hand and the Z1p owner is not smart enough to understand what's going on with his camera, as he is only accustomed to classic mechanical SLR's interface, while the Z1p is apparently too much a step for him at all at once. Any comments? Thanks a lot. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: For PZ1p / Z1p users
Thanks Bob. I think that now he's going to sleep one night or two. Dario - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 3:05 AM Subject: Re: For PZ1p / Z1p users Dario, He's in for some sleepless nights! I've still got a PZ-1p with some film in it and an instruction manual somewhere. Ask if you have more problems. Regards, Bob S. On 2/19/07, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Joe. However, apparently the mein problem is that the guy couldn't sleep without understanding each and every bit of his new camera. Dario - Original Message - From: Joe Wilensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:30 PM Subject: Re: For PZ1p / Z1p users I as well used the PZ-1p for quite a while and never used the User Set feature. But I know it's useful to some photographers, though I would certainly say he should get to know the camera and most of its functions quite well before using the User Set functions at all. By then, he'll have a pretty good idea of what particular set of shooting conditions and settings he'd most like to have available as a quick memorized setting. Joe It looks to me as though initializing the User Set Functions means clearing them. I used a PZ-1p for 10 years and at least 500 rolls of film, and never used the User Set feature. Rick --- Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, A friend of mine is going crazy with his newly purchased secondhand Z1p and rings me all the time to get explanations. Today the main question is what's the difference between: 1 - USER SET FUNCTION procedure explained on page 74 of the user manual. and 2 -Initializing the USER SET FUNCTION as explained on page 75. My guess is that the procedure on page 74 tells you how to customize the USER position of the main switch, while the so called Initialization on page 75 is how to reset to default settings. Unfortunately I don't have a Z1p at hand and the Z1p owner is not smart enough to understand what's going on with his camera, as he is only accustomed to classic mechanical SLR's interface, while the Z1p is apparently too much a step for him at all at once. Any comments? Thanks a lot. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
