Re: OT Time machine
does not seem to be having a problem i just thought id clear up some space on the External TM disk but trash does not want to delete those files for some reason, that was my main concern Dave On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 10:18 PM John Sessoms wrote: > Hard drives are relatively cheap. IF Time Machine is having a problem, > get a new drive and start afresh. Save the old drive. > > > > . -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Time machine
Hard drives are relatively cheap. IF Time Machine is having a problem, get a new drive and start afresh. Save the old drive. On 5/13/2023 9:52 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 8:40 AM David J Brooks wrote: Have I screwed myself here? To free up some space in my time machine drive I moved 47 backup files from 2014 to trash. I kinda winced when I read that, Dave. ;-) You really need to leave Time Machine alone to manage its own files. Many snapshots are dependent on earlier data being there to be coherent. Normally it clears space automatically as it needs room for new backup snapshots. Sometimes the best thing to do with a malfunctioning Time Machine is format the drive and restart TM using it. Basically, just reset and start again. Of course you lose all the backups until now so you are taking a risk, but just take care for the first few days until you have a full and complete backup and a snapshot or two on the disk and you should be good to go. -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Time machine
Dave, I couldn't say whether you've mucked things up without the machine in front of me to do some analysis, but perhaps these links on Time Machine backup management might help: https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/if-the-time-machine-backup-disk-is-full-mh15137/mac (Note that El Capitan is too old to be included in the specific instructions that this page lists for, but most of the instructions for all the High Sierra to current Ventura versions of macOS are pretty much the same; one can make the assumption that TM on El Capitan isn't much different.) https://www.macworld.com/article/673089/what-to-do-when-time-machine-backup-is-full.html http://www.creativetechsupport.com/help/mac/transfer/timemachine/full.html In general, it is not a good idea to manipulate the internals of a Time Machine backup manually (or any backup system, for that matter). When you do, you should do it in the very specific ways recommended in the links above. If a backup volume is getting too full, the best thing to do is to disconnect the old volume and archive it, add a new volume, and assign that to Time Machine. For example, I have a 1T internal drive and a 1T Time Machine volume connected to my system. I set up Time Machine such that it excludes my photography files (LR catalog folder and original files - those are managed on and backed up to a completely different set of external volumes which I consider to be much more efficient and robust than the automated TM backup system). When the 1T Time Machine volume is approaching 95% full, before TM starts deleting the oldest files, I disconnect it from the system and mark it with the date I removed it from the system. I then connect another 1T volume that I've reformatted and assign it to be the Time Machine volume, generate an entirely new backup on it. When that one gets to the 95% full mark, I do the same … the 1T volume I swap in is the original TM backup volume that I've reformatted and emptied. It takes about five to six years of use for a TM backup to become full to that point … I've only had to do this about three times … And any truly important data that I want to keep forever (like financial data) I archive into a completely independent archive system along with my photography files. G > On May 12, 2023, at 5:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > > Have I screwed myself here? To free up some space in my time machine drive > I moved 47 backup files from 2014 to trash. I know you have to delete the > trash for the new storage info to show up in the toolbar but it seems to > take forever to do anything when I ask to delete permanently, have i made a > big mistake here or is there a way to speed up the delete process? Mid 2010 > con El Capitán, > > it tries to erase but at the end gets this error:"The operation can’t be > completed because an unexpected error occurred (error code -8072)". Can't > find anything specific online? Any ideas? -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Time machine
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 8:40 AM David J Brooks wrote: > > Have I screwed myself here? To free up some space in my time machine drive > I moved 47 backup files from 2014 to trash. I kinda winced when I read that, Dave. ;-) You really need to leave Time Machine alone to manage its own files. Many snapshots are dependent on earlier data being there to be coherent. Normally it clears space automatically as it needs room for new backup snapshots. Sometimes the best thing to do with a malfunctioning Time Machine is format the drive and restart TM using it. Basically, just reset and start again. Of course you lose all the backups until now so you are taking a risk, but just take care for the first few days until you have a full and complete backup and a snapshot or two on the disk and you should be good to go. -- -bmw -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT Time machine
Have I screwed myself here? To free up some space in my time machine drive I moved 47 backup files from 2014 to trash. I know you have to delete the trash for the new storage info to show up in the toolbar but it seems to take forever to do anything when I ask to delete permanently, have i made a big mistake here or is there a way to speed up the delete process? Mid 2010 con El Capitán, it tries to erase but at the end gets this error:"The operation can’t be completed because an unexpected error occurred (error code -8072)". Can't find anything specific online? Any ideas? Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ot time machine question
I very cds and codes up to very 6 was a download. I'll need to see if I wrote the vet 6 code down . I'm pretty sure I would. Thanks for advice on Adobe reinstall Dave On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 12:24 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > If you have the installer download file, just archive it along with your > codes. That's actually what I have done with all my Adobe software: > rendered the CD/DVD originals to Disk Image files and saved them in my > software archive along with all the installation codes. Takes up a lot less > space on the shelf and is a lot easier to find when needed. :) > > G > > > On Jul 6, 2020, at 6:20 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > > > > Good to know Godfrey. > > > > I have all of my versions up to 4 on CD with codes but upgrade to 6 was > via > > download. > > > > Guess ill deal with it when the time comes > > > > Dave > > > >> On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 11:21 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi < > godfreydigio...@me.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> Dave, > >> > >> Time Machine should have the most recent installed version in the latest > >> backup. That said, I have not had much success reinstalling Adobe > >> applications via Time Machine. Their installation is complex and > involves > >> some authentication files and links that they create in various > locations > >> on the system book volume. For this reason, you should always keep a > copy > >> of the original Adobe installer along with your authentication key in > the > >> event that you need to do a re-install of LR or PS, or any other Adobe > >> software. > >> > >> For this reason, as a practical matter it's not important what Time > >> Machine is storing when it comes to Adobe applications. > >> > >> G > >> > On Jul 4, 2020, at 9:55 AM, David J Brooks > wrote: > >>> > >>> dont ask me why but the other day i just had a peak at my applications > on > >>> my time machine. I noticed it showed Lightroom as version 4 even > though i > >>> upgraded to Version 6 several years ago. > >>> > >>> If i have to reinstall via time machine am i going to get ver 4 or ver > 6 > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > >> follow the directions. > >> > > > > > > -- > > Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. > > www.caughtinmotion.com > > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > > York Region, Ontario, Canada > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ot time machine question
If you have the installer download file, just archive it along with your codes. That's actually what I have done with all my Adobe software: rendered the CD/DVD originals to Disk Image files and saved them in my software archive along with all the installation codes. Takes up a lot less space on the shelf and is a lot easier to find when needed. :) G > On Jul 6, 2020, at 6:20 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > > Good to know Godfrey. > > I have all of my versions up to 4 on CD with codes but upgrade to 6 was via > download. > > Guess ill deal with it when the time comes > > Dave > >> On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 11:21 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi >> wrote: >> >> Dave, >> >> Time Machine should have the most recent installed version in the latest >> backup. That said, I have not had much success reinstalling Adobe >> applications via Time Machine. Their installation is complex and involves >> some authentication files and links that they create in various locations >> on the system book volume. For this reason, you should always keep a copy >> of the original Adobe installer along with your authentication key in the >> event that you need to do a re-install of LR or PS, or any other Adobe >> software. >> >> For this reason, as a practical matter it's not important what Time >> Machine is storing when it comes to Adobe applications. >> >> G >> On Jul 4, 2020, at 9:55 AM, David J Brooks wrote: >>> >>> dont ask me why but the other day i just had a peak at my applications on >>> my time machine. I noticed it showed Lightroom as version 4 even though i >>> upgraded to Version 6 several years ago. >>> >>> If i have to reinstall via time machine am i going to get ver 4 or ver 6 >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > -- > Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > York Region, Ontario, Canada > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Good to know Godfrey. I have all of my versions up to 4 on CD with codes but upgrade to 6 was via download. Guess ill deal with it when the time comes Dave On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 11:21 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Dave, > > Time Machine should have the most recent installed version in the latest > backup. That said, I have not had much success reinstalling Adobe > applications via Time Machine. Their installation is complex and involves > some authentication files and links that they create in various locations > on the system book volume. For this reason, you should always keep a copy > of the original Adobe installer along with your authentication key in the > event that you need to do a re-install of LR or PS, or any other Adobe > software. > > For this reason, as a practical matter it's not important what Time > Machine is storing when it comes to Adobe applications. > > G > > > On Jul 4, 2020, at 9:55 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > > > > dont ask me why but the other day i just had a peak at my applications on > > my time machine. I noticed it showed Lightroom as version 4 even though i > > upgraded to Version 6 several years ago. > > > > If i have to reinstall via time machine am i going to get ver 4 or ver 6 > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ot time machine question
Dave, Time Machine should have the most recent installed version in the latest backup. That said, I have not had much success reinstalling Adobe applications via Time Machine. Their installation is complex and involves some authentication files and links that they create in various locations on the system book volume. For this reason, you should always keep a copy of the original Adobe installer along with your authentication key in the event that you need to do a re-install of LR or PS, or any other Adobe software. For this reason, as a practical matter it's not important what Time Machine is storing when it comes to Adobe applications. G > On Jul 4, 2020, at 9:55 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > > dont ask me why but the other day i just had a peak at my applications on > my time machine. I noticed it showed Lightroom as version 4 even though i > upgraded to Version 6 several years ago. > > If i have to reinstall via time machine am i going to get ver 4 or ver 6 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 2:46 PM Bruce Walker wrote: > On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 2:17 PM David J Brooks wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 1:33 PM Bruce Walker > wrote: > > > > > Have you checked that Time Machine is successfully backing up > > > regularly? Check its status in the System Preferences panel. You > > > should see dates for oldest, latest and next backups. > > > > > > > Bruce its showing that, it took several trys to get the panel to load but > > that info is there. > > Well, good, but it doesn't sound healthy that it too multiple tries to > open the Time Machine preferences. There may be more issues with your > Mac.Does it fail in other oddball ways? > It shuts off on its on=wn once in a while, but i can see the files if i open time machine by its self Dave > > -- > -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ot time machine question
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 2:17 PM David J Brooks wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 1:33 PM Bruce Walker wrote: > > > Have you checked that Time Machine is successfully backing up > > regularly? Check its status in the System Preferences panel. You > > should see dates for oldest, latest and next backups. > > > > Bruce its showing that, it took several trys to get the panel to load but > that info is there. Well, good, but it doesn't sound healthy that it too multiple tries to open the Time Machine preferences. There may be more issues with your Mac.Does it fail in other oddball ways? -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well i found the .DMG file on time machine anyway, its in Downloads>Lightroom> Lightroom 6.14.dmg, so its there anyway Dave On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 2:16 PM David J Brooks wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 1:33 PM Bruce Walker > wrote: > >> Have you checked that Time Machine is successfully backing up >> regularly? Check its status in the System Preferences panel. You >> should see dates for oldest, latest and next backups. >> > > Bruce its showing that, it took several trys to get the panel to load but > that info is there. > > Dave > >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 12:57 PM David J Brooks >> wrote: >> > >> > dont ask me why but the other day i just had a peak at my applications >> on >> > my time machine. I noticed it showed Lightroom as version 4 even though >> i >> > upgraded to Version 6 several years ago. >> > >> > If i have to reinstall via time machine am i going to get ver 4 or ver 6 >> > >> > Dave >> > >> > -- >> > Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. >> > www.caughtinmotion.com >> > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ >> > York Region, Ontario, Canada >> > -- >> > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> > PDML@pdml.net >> > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> >> >> -- >> -bmw >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > -- > Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > York Region, Ontario, Canada > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ot time machine question
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 1:33 PM Bruce Walker wrote: > Have you checked that Time Machine is successfully backing up > regularly? Check its status in the System Preferences panel. You > should see dates for oldest, latest and next backups. > Bruce its showing that, it took several trys to get the panel to load but that info is there. Dave > > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 12:57 PM David J Brooks > wrote: > > > > dont ask me why but the other day i just had a peak at my applications on > > my time machine. I noticed it showed Lightroom as version 4 even though i > > upgraded to Version 6 several years ago. > > > > If i have to reinstall via time machine am i going to get ver 4 or ver 6 > > > > Dave > > > > -- > > Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. > > www.caughtinmotion.com > > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > > York Region, Ontario, Canada > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > > -- > -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ot time machine question
Have you checked that Time Machine is successfully backing up regularly? Check its status in the System Preferences panel. You should see dates for oldest, latest and next backups. On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 12:57 PM David J Brooks wrote: > > dont ask me why but the other day i just had a peak at my applications on > my time machine. I noticed it showed Lightroom as version 4 even though i > upgraded to Version 6 several years ago. > > If i have to reinstall via time machine am i going to get ver 4 or ver 6 > > Dave > > -- > Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > York Region, Ontario, Canada > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
ot time machine question
dont ask me why but the other day i just had a peak at my applications on my time machine. I noticed it showed Lightroom as version 4 even though i upgraded to Version 6 several years ago. If i have to reinstall via time machine am i going to get ver 4 or ver 6 Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
