Re: P30 and AF201SA

2003-09-26 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003, Dr E D F Williams wrote:

 Call it what you like. But the manual calls it programmed AE mode, quite

I guess AE means Automatic Exposure, or sth like that. In general, I
have seen programmed AE, aperture priority AE and shutter priority AE.
The P30 only has programmed AE.

 clearly, in several places: page 19, 22, 27 and many others. The P30T is
 slightly different. I have one of those as well. What I don't have is an
 AF200 or 201 flash so I can't do the experiment. I have a Metz 45 and a
 Popular 30TB D. I use both on Auto and they work perfectly.

Thanks Don.

Kostas



Re: P30 and AF201SA

2003-09-25 Thread Dr E D F Williams
I would suggest that it works the same way; that the aperture and speed will
be set automatically in AE mode. But if you have the shutter set below 1/100
it will not be changed - apparently. The P30 film speed is ISO 100 without a
film in the camera. But why not just put one in? Or an empty cassette? I
usually keep a few of those around -- useful for checking the meters of my
P30s (I have three of them now) against a hand held meter.

Don
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Subject: Re: P30 and AF201SA


 On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Dr E D F Williams wrote:

  In programmed AE mode the camera will be set to 1/100 and the aperture
will
  also be set according to where you have the switch - Red, Green or
Yellow .
  But this information applies to the AF200SA since the 201 was probably
not
  yet on the market at the time the P30 manual was written.

 Thanks :-(

 The AF201SA does not have Red or Yellow, just Auto. I thought that the
 A in the name would mean that it sets aperture and speed :-(

 My hope is that the P30 gets confused because it's not loaded with
 film, does not have an ISO number and plays up. Plausible?

 I may load it at some point (but the ME Super I am waiting through the
 post takes priority now).

 Thanks,
 Kostas





Re: P30 and AF201SA

2003-09-25 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Dr E D F Williams wrote:

 I would suggest that it works the same way; that the aperture and speed will
 be set automatically in AE mode.

The P30 does not have AE, only P and Manual. In P (even without the
flash) the shutter setting is irrelevant; the camera does as it
pleases (but tells you what it thinks).

 The P30 film speed is ISO 100 without a
 film in the camera. But why not just put one in? Or an empty cassette?

I don't do my own processing, so I don't have empty cassettes. But
what I can do is put one in and then move it to another camera if I
don't shoot; it's the DX that I want to get.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Kostas



Re: P30 and AF201SA

2003-09-25 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Dr E D F Williams wrote:

 'AE' mode with the P30 is attained by setting the lens to the 'A' position.

That's P mode, as you then have no control of the shutter either. In
the P30 you cannot put the shutter dial to the Program or Auto
position. Are you thinking of the P30t perhaps?

http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/P/P3.html

The film made no difference either. Unlucky :-(

Kostas



P30 and AF201SA

2003-09-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

Hi,

Does anybody have the above combination? I just bought the AF201SA
(thanks Eric) and I expected it to set the aperture and speed
automatically in the P mode; I tried it in near-darkness and, while
the flash worked, the mirror stayed open for a second, so... I don't
have a manual for the P30 (the Pentax site only has a manual for the
P30t), can anybody check for me please? The flash works fine on the
MZ-50.

TIA,
Kostas



Re: P30 and AF201SA

2003-09-24 Thread Dr E D F Williams
In programmed AE mode the camera will be set to 1/100 and the aperture will
also be set according to where you have the switch - Red, Green or Yellow .
But this information applies to the AF200SA since the 201 was probably not
yet on the market at the time the P30 manual was written.

Don
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From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:00 PM
Subject: P30 and AF201SA



 Hi,

 Does anybody have the above combination? I just bought the AF201SA
 (thanks Eric) and I expected it to set the aperture and speed
 automatically in the P mode; I tried it in near-darkness and, while
 the flash worked, the mirror stayed open for a second, so... I don't
 have a manual for the P30 (the Pentax site only has a manual for the
 P30t), can anybody check for me please? The flash works fine on the
 MZ-50.

 TIA,
 Kostas