Re: PESO: Little ANZAC
Hi! Thank you for your well considered comments Boris. You know, I went back had a look at the shots taken from that day, and the very next frame was this same young man looking straight at me, with that same bored look, which covers almost all the points you raised. http://tinyurl.com/daxag I just preferred the one where he hadn't noticed me yet. I also like that little face in the background, but to be honest I didn't notice him looking at me at the time :-) Dave, that's the great challenge of photography, I think... You got the motif right on the first shot and some probably less important technical issues on this one... What ideally should've been done is to combine both in one shot... I know I suffer from the same problem myself ;-). Thanks for sharing... Boris
Re: PESO: Little ANZAC
Try this: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_015.htm Dave On 11/2/05, Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave _ I couldnt get those to load at all ann
Re: PESO: Little ANZAC
On 11/1/05, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for your well considered comments Boris. You know, I went back had a look at the shots taken from that day, and the very next frame was this same young man looking straight at me, with that same bored look, which covers almost all the points you raised. http://tinyurl.com/daxag I just preferred the one where he hadn't noticed me yet. I also like that little face in the background, but to be honest I didn't notice him looking at me at the time :-) i like the first one. in that one, he just looks bored. in this one, he looks uncomfortable, and one might wonder if that apparent discomfort is because he noticed the camera, rather than mere boredom from being in this parade. this ambiguity dilutes what i see as the main story of the photo. -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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David Savage wrote: Try this: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_015.htm Dave On 11/2/05, Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave _ I couldnt get those to load at all ann nope - broken link again go figure a
Re: PESO: Little ANZAC
On Nov 2, 2005, at 11:14, Ann Sanfedele wrote: David Savage wrote: Try this: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_015.htm Dave On 11/2/05, Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave _ I couldnt get those to load at all ann nope - broken link again go figure FWIW: Works for me! -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org
PESO: Little ANZAC
G'day PDML'ers, Took this wy back in April (aside: Is it just me or has this year flown by?) at the ANZAC day parade in Fremantle. I went to watch my Grandfather a family friend take part in the march, when I took this: http://tinyurl.com/98wn9 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_015.htm I'm not generally a people picture taker :-). There are a few things I could have done better, but I like it none the less. I'd be interested in others thoughts comments. Dave
Re: PESO: Little ANZAC
Nice light and an interesting moment captured. I might like it cropped just above the tallest head. I think the tree background is a bit distracting and doesn't add much. Paul On Nov 1, 2005, at 6:48 AM, David Savage wrote: G'day PDML'ers, Took this wy back in April (aside: Is it just me or has this year flown by?) at the ANZAC day parade in Fremantle. I went to watch my Grandfather a family friend take part in the march, when I took this: http://tinyurl.com/98wn9 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_015.htm I'm not generally a people picture taker :-). There are a few things I could have done better, but I like it none the less. I'd be interested in others thoughts comments. Dave
Re: PESO: Little ANZAC
On 11/1/05, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day PDML'ers, Took this wy back in April (aside: Is it just me or has this year flown by?) at the ANZAC day parade in Fremantle. I went to watch my Grandfather a family friend take part in the march, when I took this: http://tinyurl.com/98wn9 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_015.htm I'm not generally a people picture taker :-). There are a few things I could have done better, but I like it none the less. I'd be interested in others thoughts comments. something about the look on the kid's face interests me. it's like he's there because he has to be. he'd rather be with his buddies playing x-box or watching tv or something - anything! - but where he is. but there he is, out of a sense of obligation. that's my take on it, anyway. i like it. -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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Thanks for looking Paul, I see what you mean I though of doing it, but I would have lost the flags in the background which I wanted to keep. Dave On 11/1/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice light and an interesting moment captured. I might like it cropped just above the tallest head. I think the tree background is a bit distracting and doesn't add much. Paul
Re: PESO: Little ANZAC
Good call Frank. It is a very bored look. I guess he is just to young to understand the significance of the day. I know I was when I was his age. Thanks for your comments. Dave On 11/1/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip http://tinyurl.com/98wn9 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_015.htm snip something about the look on the kid's face interests me. it's like he's there because he has to be. he'd rather be with his buddies playing x-box or watching tv or something - anything! - but where he is. but there he is, out of a sense of obligation. that's my take on it, anyway. i like it. -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO: Little ANZAC
Hi! something about the look on the kid's face interests me. it's like he's there because he has to be. he'd rather be with his buddies playing x-box or watching tv or something - anything! - but where he is. but there he is, out of a sense of obligation. that's my take on it, anyway. i like it. I agree with what Frank's said. It is this sense of being forced that can clearly be read on the boy's face... I think I would probably crop off somewhat on the left because half-person there is distracting... I don't mind half-person OOF, but the one on the left is too sharp ;-). Then there is a question of the boy on the background on the LHS, which looked at you when you took the picture. It probably means that you might have stepped a bit to the right so as to exclude the half-boy on the left and give more prominence to the boy on the back.. This would add a bit of conflict between these two boys. I would also consider cropping some off the bottom... I generally dislike limbs that are neither fully in the frame nor fully out of it... But then again, I have this peculiar tendency to crop to square... And of course cropping is just another way of seeing which makes my comments somewhat irrelevant... As usual, Shel's advise comes to mind - make as many takes as possible while on location. Edit later - digital film does not cost money ;-). I should say - this is interesting picture to analyze... Well done! -- Boris
Re: PESO: Little ANZAC
Not bad for a non-people shooter. The biggest thing for me would have been to shifted the composition to include his feet and less of the sky. At this point, all you could do is crop some of the sky. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, November 1, 2005, 3:48:56 AM, you wrote: DS G'day PDML'ers, DS Took this wy back in April (aside: Is it just me or has this year DS flown by?) at the ANZAC day parade in Fremantle. I went to watch my DS Grandfather a family friend take part in the march, when I took DS this: DS http://tinyurl.com/98wn9 DS http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_015.htm DS I'm not generally a people picture taker :-). There are a few things I DS could have done better, but I like it none the less. DS I'd be interested in others thoughts comments. DS Dave
RE: PESO: Little ANZAC
Hi, based on what's here, a little off the top might be helpful. Otherwise it's a good photo - there's a strong sense of the foremost boy's discomfort or ennui, and a good representation of the small group as well. There are any number of nits one could pick, but it's not a bad shot at all. Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax [Original Message] From: David Savage Took this wy back in April (aside: Is it just me or has this year flown by?) at the ANZAC day parade in Fremantle. I went to watch my Grandfather a family friend take part in the march, when I took this: http://tinyurl.com/98wn9 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_015.htm I'm not generally a people picture taker :-). There are a few things I could have done better, but I like it none the less.
Re: PESO: Little ANZAC
Hey, David can add some feet in Photoshop ;-)) Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax [Original Message] From: Bruce Dayton Not bad for a non-people shooter. The biggest thing for me would have been to shifted the composition to include his feet and less of the sky. At this point, all you could do is crop some of the sky. http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_015.htm
Re: PESO: Little ANZAC
Thank you for your well considered comments Boris. You know, I went back had a look at the shots taken from that day, and the very next frame was this same young man looking straight at me, with that same bored look, which covers almost all the points you raised. http://tinyurl.com/daxag I just preferred the one where he hadn't noticed me yet. I also like that little face in the background, but to be honest I didn't notice him looking at me at the time :-) Thanks again. Dave On 11/2/05, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with what Frank's said. It is this sense of being forced that can clearly be read on the boy's face... I think I would probably crop off somewhat on the left because half-person there is distracting... I don't mind half-person OOF, but the one on the left is too sharp ;-). Then there is a question of the boy on the background on the LHS, which looked at you when you took the picture. It probably means that you might have stepped a bit to the right so as to exclude the half-boy on the left and give more prominence to the boy on the back.. This would add a bit of conflict between these two boys. I would also consider cropping some off the bottom... I generally dislike limbs that are neither fully in the frame nor fully out of it... But then again, I have this peculiar tendency to crop to square... And of course cropping is just another way of seeing which makes my comments somewhat irrelevant... As usual, Shel's advise comes to mind - make as many takes as possible while on location. Edit later - digital film does not cost money ;-). I should say - this is interesting picture to analyze... Well done! -- Boris
Re: PESO: Little ANZAC
Thanks for your comments Bruce. I was trying to include the flags in the background I had to sacrifice his feet. Probably if I had been standing I could have shot down at the kids to include both the background flags and feet, but I shot most of this parade as close to the ground as possible. Dave On 11/2/05, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not bad for a non-people shooter. The biggest thing for me would have been to shifted the composition to include his feet and less of the sky. At this point, all you could do is crop some of the sky. -- Best regards, Bruce
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LOL, don't tempt me Shel. Clown feet I'm thinking Dave On 11/2/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, David can add some feet in Photoshop ;-)) Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax
Re: PESO: Little ANZAC
Thank you sir. Pick away (off list if you prefer) it's the best way to learn :-) Dave On 11/2/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, based on what's here, a little off the top might be helpful. Otherwise it's a good photo - there's a strong sense of the foremost boy's discomfort or ennui, and a good representation of the small group as well. There are any number of nits one could pick, but it's not a bad shot at all. Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax [Original Message] Wrom: HDMNNSKVFVWR Took this wy back in April (aside: Is it just me or has this year flown by?) at the ANZAC day parade in Fremantle. I went to watch my Grandfather a family friend take part in the march, when I took this: http://tinyurl.com/98wn9 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_015.htm I'm not generally a people picture taker :-). There are a few things I could have done better, but I like it none the less.
Re: PESO: Little ANZAC
Dave _ I couldnt get those to load at all ann
