Re: Pentax K-P

[John]

On 2/25/2017 7:23 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 25/2/17, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:


That's what everyone is going to complain about.


Why didn't they take a chance and make it mirrorless. A small mirrorless
full frame Pentax. About LX size.

Who'd a though it



I don't think it's full-frame.

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Re: Pentax K-P

[Steve Cottrell]

On 25/2/17, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

>That's what everyone is going to complain about.

Why didn't they take a chance and make it mirrorless. A small mirrorless
full frame Pentax. About LX size.

Who'd a though it

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Re: Pentax K-P

[P. J. Alling]

That's what everyone is going to complain about.


On 2/25/2017 12:58 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 25/2/17, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:


Cotty, while it looks close from the front, didn't you look at a side or
top view.

It's 50% thicker, room for the mirror box etc.




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Re: Pentax K-P

[Steve Cottrell]

On 25/2/17, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Cotty, while it looks close from the front, didn't you look at a side or 
>top view.

It's 50% thicker, room for the mirror box etc.

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Re: Pentax K-P

[P. J. Alling]

Cotty, while it looks close from the front, didn't you look at a side or 
top view.


The K-5 looks similar in size to the Fen F from the front too.

http://camerasize.com/compare/#654,372

On 2/25/2017 7:02 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 25/2/17, Malcolm Smith, discombobulated, unleashed:


The camera is indeed smaller, but it is
well laid out control wise.

Just compared it to my Pen F and it's very similar in size except, of
course, for the prism hump:



but the Pentax is 39% heavier.

Looks interesting.




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RE: Pentax K-P

[Malcolm Smith]

Steve Cottrell wrote:

Just compared it to my Pen F and it's very similar in size except, of
course, for the prism hump:



but the Pentax is 39% heavier.

Looks interesting.

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I didn't realise they were so close in size.

Malcolm


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Re: Pentax K-P

[Steve Cottrell]

On 25/2/17, Malcolm Smith, discombobulated, unleashed:

>The camera is indeed smaller, but it is
>well laid out control wise.

Just compared it to my Pen F and it's very similar in size except, of
course, for the prism hump:



but the Pentax is 39% heavier.

Looks interesting.

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RE: Pentax K-P

[Malcolm Smith]

Henk Terhell wrote:

Malcolm, interesting information. Looks like a great small model as the MX
in the old days.
I wonder how the high ISO compare with that of the K-1.

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It's one of the things I'll look at in the next week or so. I'm not entirely
sure it will be a fair comparison because of the sensor size difference. It
is something different between  the K1 & K3. I'm keen to see how well it
sells - or not!

Malcolm


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Re: Pentax K-P

[Henk Terhell]

Malcolm, interesting information. Looks like a great small model as the 
MX in the old days.

I wonder how the high ISO compare with that of the K-1.

Henk

Op 2017-02-25 om 11:33 schreef Malcolm Smith:

It arrived as one of the last courier deliveries of the day, and as it has a
different battery and charger (not great but part of the 'make it smaller'
drive), I was forced to charge that, and it was dark by the time it was
fully charged.

  


It comes with the small grip attached - one Allen key bolt with Allen key
provided - and I'm not sure who will use the small, as my wife with small
hands found that grip too small. The camera is indeed smaller, but it is
well laid out control wise. With a small lens, a 40mm pancake maybe, it
would pass for a point and shoot from a small distance, and I think that
might work well for street photography, and the tilt screen is useful.

  


The different grips are a good idea, although as I have big hands the large
will be the only suitable grip for me. I wouldn't want the camera any
smaller.

  


However, this was all about the high ISO abilities to me. I attach two
photos, one of the box, and one I took indoors. So far, I've only taken 5
pictures with it, and so I have much to get used to with it. One of the
pictures I took outside at 204,500 ISO just to see in the dark to see if it
could get a moving car, and whilst the image looked like a surveillance
photo as it was so grainy, I was astonished to see the registration
number/license plate readable. The K3 wouldn't work on this at all - I
tried.

  


Again with the picture of my cat, I tried to make it as hard as possible for
the camera, with really low light, so I had trouble seeing her, a smallish
aperture, quick shutter speed and then processed and cropped the image in
Lightroom, to further stress the image. Obviously that's not a picture
you're going to use day to day, but for a hand held shot (where the K 3
wanted several seconds exposure), this opens up a new world for me. I'm
happy. I'll certainly be able to use a much higher ISO than I currently do
and be useable.

  


I think they've made a camera that suits me, but time will tell if it suits
anyone else. If it was a choice between a K3 (K3 II) or a K-P, it would be
an easy choice for the former. I'm therefore not sure if I was buying a
Pentax DSLR for the first time I'd even look at the K-P.

  


The box:   http://flic.kr/p/RRs7AN

  


ISO 65,535:   http://flic.kr/p/RcciWV

  


Malcolm




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Pentax K-P

[Malcolm Smith]

It arrived as one of the last courier deliveries of the day, and as it has a
different battery and charger (not great but part of the 'make it smaller'
drive), I was forced to charge that, and it was dark by the time it was
fully charged.

 

It comes with the small grip attached - one Allen key bolt with Allen key
provided - and I'm not sure who will use the small, as my wife with small
hands found that grip too small. The camera is indeed smaller, but it is
well laid out control wise. With a small lens, a 40mm pancake maybe, it
would pass for a point and shoot from a small distance, and I think that
might work well for street photography, and the tilt screen is useful.

 

The different grips are a good idea, although as I have big hands the large
will be the only suitable grip for me. I wouldn't want the camera any
smaller.

 

However, this was all about the high ISO abilities to me. I attach two
photos, one of the box, and one I took indoors. So far, I've only taken 5
pictures with it, and so I have much to get used to with it. One of the
pictures I took outside at 204,500 ISO just to see in the dark to see if it
could get a moving car, and whilst the image looked like a surveillance
photo as it was so grainy, I was astonished to see the registration
number/license plate readable. The K3 wouldn't work on this at all - I
tried.

 

Again with the picture of my cat, I tried to make it as hard as possible for
the camera, with really low light, so I had trouble seeing her, a smallish
aperture, quick shutter speed and then processed and cropped the image in
Lightroom, to further stress the image. Obviously that's not a picture
you're going to use day to day, but for a hand held shot (where the K 3
wanted several seconds exposure), this opens up a new world for me. I'm
happy. I'll certainly be able to use a much higher ISO than I currently do
and be useable.

 

I think they've made a camera that suits me, but time will tell if it suits
anyone else. If it was a choice between a K3 (K3 II) or a K-P, it would be
an easy choice for the former. I'm therefore not sure if I was buying a
Pentax DSLR for the first time I'd even look at the K-P. 

 

The box:   http://flic.kr/p/RRs7AN

 

ISO 65,535:   http://flic.kr/p/RcciWV 

 

Malcolm

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