Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-10 Thread frank theriault
Actually, Tom,

It ~was~ colder when you were a kid.  And, when I was a kid, too (that would 
be a few years after you... g).

I just read something in the paper the other day about the average winter 
temps in Southern Ontario, Canada being about 2 degrees celsuis warmer than 
they were 40 years ago.  That's a ~huge~ increase!  And, it's that's a 
pretty consistent increase in North America.  We in Toronto almost never get 
a white Christmas anymore.

The question isn't whether global warming is happening, but why (natural 
fluctuations or greenhouse effect caused by greenhouse gases, or a combo of 
the two).

regards,
frank
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: GFM Attendees (updated)
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 20:02:26 -0500
I remember temps like that when I was stationed in Kansas (Forbes AFB), 
only they were F rather than C. But then it was much colder in the old 
days, why I remember walking to school in snow up to my knees, now it 
hardly gets over my ankles. (grin)

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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-10 Thread graywolf
The biggest problem there is that most of the people making claims have an ax to 
grind. We have temperture records going back only to 1865 or so. The next best 
record is core samples from trees, but that only goes back a thousand years or 
so except for a few species that are limited to isolated areas of the globe. 
That does not give much of a record to prove anything with.

Geological data shows that the world has been a lot colder than it is now, and 
that it also has been a lot warmer than it is now. I think that proves 
something. Which is that the whole issue is, to quote Shakespeare, Much ado 
about nothing.

--

frank theriault wrote:

The question isn't whether global warming is happening, but why (natural 
fluctuations or greenhouse effect caused by greenhouse gases, or a combo 
of the two).


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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

One word of warning. If you come here you mustn't throw boomerangs in
Kew Gardens. I did that earlier this year and nearly took some poor
woman's head off. She was hiding behind a eucalyptus (honest) and the
boomerang just seemed to seek her out. I never did get it back.

So you're tho one who looks like Rolf Harris, then?
:-P

-- 
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Photography and writing
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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-09 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Thanks for this information Bob!

I have decided that this time, I'm not going to be able to stretch it to get
to England.  I have a wedding booked for June 12, so need to be back in
plenty of time, and the thought of going there and missing the Summer
Solstice by a matter of weeks is just too much!

I have always wanted to, and still intend to, visit England and Ireland one
day, sans hubby and kids, just so that I may really enjoy and appreciate the
sites there are to offer.  As I said, I am intrigued by all things
celtic/pagan and the lng history.  I am a bit of a King Arthur/Morgan Le
Fay nut too, but this is not the place to go into all of that.  So, anyways,
I really want to take my time when I do visit these countries as not only
are they beautiful photo opportunities, but they are steeped in history that
I find, for some reason, very dear to me.  I am going to try and visit,
perhaps in 2005, and it will definitely include June 21 in the date.  BTW, I
am the biggest baby when it comes to the cold and just don't think I could
handle an English or Irish winter - mind you, you may not have to worry
about those 'decibels' if I did come then, all you would hear would be my
teeth chattering and my knees knocking together! lol...

BTW, where the heck do you find eucalyptus trees in ENGLAND?!?!?!?!

tan.

- Original Message - 
From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: GFM Attendees (updated)


 Hi,

 Tuesday, December 9, 2003, 9:39:48 AM, you wrote:

  I live just to the west of the fair city of Oxford, home of the dreaming
  spires and a few punts (though they never bother me).

 just so Tanya has a reference point, Cotty's city of aspiring dreams
 is about 55 miles west of Earl's Court g

  If you've never been to England, June is a nice time of year as it's
just
  warming through nicely, and school's not broken up for the summer yet so
  it's quiet at places like Stonehenge etc. Seeing as you have a friend in
  town then you are already ahead - my advice is go for it.

 We can all offer you a pleasant welcome, I hope. If you decide to
 visit Stonehenge (and you should), then read 'Tess of the Durbevilles'
 first, if you haven't already done so. 21st June is the best day to
 visit Stonehenge.

  As a visiting Australian though, you'll have to undergo a voice /
decibel
  test on entry and if you're too loud you wear some gaffer tape over your
  mouth - with a small hole for sipping liquids, we're not barbarians!

 it's not the decibels - it's the rising intonation that makes every
 statement sound like a question?

 One word of warning. If you come here you mustn't throw boomerangs in
 Kew Gardens. I did that earlier this year and nearly took some poor
 woman's head off. She was hiding behind a eucalyptus (honest) and the
 boomerang just seemed to seek her out. I never did get it back.

 -- 
 Cheers,
  Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-09 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
omigosh Cotty, is that supposed to be funny?!?!?! -10?!?!? In the very
coldest time in our winter, it gets down to a very minimum of 2 degrees C at
night time, but will always still get to around the 20-25 degrees C mark
during the day.  Rain I can handle, snow would be a novelty for a week or
so, but more poor hubby would have kittens if I came back with my butt
frozen off from being
-10!!  I think I'll definitely be visiting in June! (which I would prefer
for the Solstices anyways)...

BTW, if you've frozen your butt off a number of times - it should be great
to share the back of tvs car with you for 7, nice and ROOMY...  Might even
bring my pillow... ;-)

tan.


- Original Message - 
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 2:45 AM
Subject: Re: GFM Attendees (updated)


 On 9/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

  BTW, I
 am the biggest baby when it comes to the cold and just don't think I
could
 handle an English or Irish winter - mind you, you may not have to worry
 about those 'decibels' if I did come then, all you would hear would be my
 teeth chattering and my knees knocking together! lol...

 The UK and Ireland generally have fairly mild winters. An average daytime
 temp on a January day (say) would be in the region of 5 to 7 degrees C. I
 have basked in 18 deg C in late February and equally frozen my butt off
 in -10 in March. Wacky. We are mostly governed by the Gulf Stream and a
 flowing of warm water up from the mid Atlantic calle the Atlantic
 Conveyor. This means we get little snow, if any, and usually plenty of
 rain instead (in the winter). We are on the same lattitude as Toronto
 don't forget.

 
 BTW, where the heck do you find eucalyptus trees in ENGLAND?!?!?!?!

 They exist - somewhere




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   Cotty


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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

omigosh Cotty, is that supposed to be funny?!?!?! -10?!?!? In the very
coldest time in our winter, it gets down to a very minimum of 2 degrees C at
night time, but will always still get to around the 20-25 degrees C mark
during the day. 

I understand. I grew up in the Bay Area, California. I remember my mom
taking a snap of the lawn once because there was frost on it. We'd never
seen frost there before.


BTW, if you've frozen your butt off a number of times - it should be great
to share the back of tvs car with you for 7, nice and ROOMY...  Might even
bring my pillow... ;-)

I had a butt-transplant and now have a much roomier, softer version. It
happened when I turned forty, odd enough. Will there be room to swing a
zoom, I ask myself :-)




Cheers,
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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-09 Thread frank theriault
You should move to Canada for a couple of years, just to experience some 
~real~ cold.

Last winter (a cold one by Toronto standards) we had several weeks where the 
morning temp was around -25, with a wind chill of around -40C.  The daily 
highs were around -15C.

One winter in Montreal (the winter of 1981-82, to be exact, because my ex 
was preggers with our oldest) the temp didn't go ~above~ 0 F (what's that, 
around -20C?) for the entire month of January.  Average night time low was 
about -40, plus wind chill.

Now ~that's~ cold...

g

-frank

The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: GFM Attendees (updated)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:30:59 +1000
omigosh Cotty, is that supposed to be funny?!?!?! -10?!?!? In the very
coldest time in our winter, it gets down to a very minimum of 2 degrees C 
at
night time, but will always still get to around the 20-25 degrees C mark
during the day.  Rain I can handle, snow would be a novelty for a week or
so, but more poor hubby would have kittens if I came back with my butt
frozen off from being
-10!!  I think I'll definitely be visiting in June! (which I would prefer
for the Solstices anyways)...

BTW, if you've frozen your butt off a number of times - it should be great
to share the back of tvs car with you for 7, nice and ROOMY...  Might even
bring my pillow... ;-)
tan.

- Original Message -
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 2:45 AM
Subject: Re: GFM Attendees (updated)
 On 9/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

  BTW, I
 am the biggest baby when it comes to the cold and just don't think I
could
 handle an English or Irish winter - mind you, you may not have to worry
 about those 'decibels' if I did come then, all you would hear would be 
my
 teeth chattering and my knees knocking together! lol...

 The UK and Ireland generally have fairly mild winters. An average 
daytime
 temp on a January day (say) would be in the region of 5 to 7 degrees C. 
I
 have basked in 18 deg C in late February and equally frozen my butt off
 in -10 in March. Wacky. We are mostly governed by the Gulf Stream and a
 flowing of warm water up from the mid Atlantic calle the Atlantic
 Conveyor. This means we get little snow, if any, and usually plenty of
 rain instead (in the winter). We are on the same lattitude as Toronto
 don't forget.

 
 BTW, where the heck do you find eucalyptus trees in ENGLAND?!?!?!?!

 They exist - somewhere




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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-09 Thread graywolf
I remember temps like that when I was stationed in Kansas (Forbes AFB), only 
they were F rather than C. But then it was much colder in the old days, why I 
remember walking to school in snow up to my knees, now it hardly gets over my 
ankles. (grin)

frank theriault wrote:
You should move to Canada for a couple of years, just to experience some 
~real~ cold.

Last winter (a cold one by Toronto standards) we had several weeks where 
the morning temp was around -25, with a wind chill of around -40C.  The 
daily highs were around -15C.


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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-09 Thread Bill Owens
-40C and -40F are the same.

Bill

- Original Message - 
From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: GFM Attendees (updated)


 I remember temps like that when I was stationed in Kansas (Forbes AFB),
only
 they were F rather than C. But then it was much colder in the old days,
why I
 remember walking to school in snow up to my knees, now it hardly gets over
my
 ankles. (grin)

 frank theriault wrote:
  You should move to Canada for a couple of years, just to experience some
  ~real~ cold.
 
  Last winter (a cold one by Toronto standards) we had several weeks where
  the morning temp was around -25, with a wind chill of around -40C.  The
  daily highs were around -15C.


 -- 
 graywolf
 http://graywolfphoto.com

 You might as well accept people as they are,
 you are not going to be able to change them anyway.







Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-09 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You should move to Canada for a couple of years, just to experience some 
~real~ cold.

Last winter (a cold one by Toronto standards) we had several weeks where the 
morning temp was around -25, with a wind chill of around -40C.  The daily 
highs were around -15C.

One winter in Montreal (the winter of 1981-82, to be exact, because my ex 
was preggers with our oldest) the temp didn't go ~above~ 0 F (what's that, 
around -20C?) for the entire month of January.  Average night time low was 
about -40, plus wind chill.

Now ~that's~ cold...

A few years ago there was a discussion in the rec.running newsgroup
about the coldest weather you've ever run in. I was going to boast
about the -15F run I'd done that winter until I read the posts from
runners in Alaska and northern Canada. -30, -40, etc.

In Rochester, NY we imported our cold from Canada. And Canada sent us
only the watered-down version of their cold. ;-)

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread Tom Reese
Put me down as definite. We mailed the registration this morning.

Suggestion for those who are going:

Make it worth your while. Great Smoky Mountain National Park is only a few
hours from GFM. We're taking a full week and heading for GSMNP from GFM.

Tom Reese



Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread Stephen Moore
All --

It's scary how many excellent shooters are listed here!
Also kinda intimidating... ;-)
stephen the self-conscious

tom wrote:

TV
Annsan
Doug
Bill
Cesar
Mark
Rittenhouse
Cotty
Stan
ERN
A lurker or 2
Jostein
Frank
Adelheid
Desjardins?
Jerome?
Doug Franklin?
Len?
Herb?
Cory Or Brenda?
Tom Reese?
Bruce?
Tanya?




Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread Steve Desjardins
My wife and I have already registered. 


Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

In any case it seems there will be some out-of-towners in DC before GFM so
I'm sure we can all get together at tv's place for Indian food...

I'm arriving at Dulles on the Thursday at 6pm. By the time I get around
to Tom's it'll be nearly 8pm ? and I'll be ravenous - especially for
Indian food :-)

Count me in.




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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 7/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

In any case it seems there will be some out-of-towners in DC before GFM so
I'm sure we can all get together at tv's place for Indian food...

I'm arriving at Dulles on the Thursday at 6pm. By the time I get around
to Tom's it'll be nearly 8pm ? and I'll be ravenous - especially for
Indian food :-)

Count me in.

Hey, perhaps I'll detour through DC on my way!
;-)

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RE: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread tom
 -Original Message-
 From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 On 7/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

 In any case it seems there will be some out-of-towners in
 DC before GFM so
 I'm sure we can all get together at tv's place for Indian food...

 I'm arriving at Dulles on the Thursday at 6pm. By the time
 I get around
 to Tom's it'll be nearly 8pm ? and I'll be ravenous - especially for
 Indian food :-)

 Count me in.

I was thinking for Cotty's only night in DC we should head downtown
somewhere, maybe Georgetown?

tv






Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread Christian
I think Dupont circle would be better  (wink, wink; nudge, nudge)

Christian

- Original Message - 
From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I was thinking for Cotty's only night in DC we should head downtown
 somewhere, maybe Georgetown?
 
 tv
 
 
 
 



RE: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

I was thinking for Cotty's only night in DC we should head downtown
somewhere, maybe Georgetown?

Georgetown, Washington? Figures.

There's the Sunday night as well, if we are returning to DC then,
although I dare say that it'll be spent forming an orderly line for the
shower

BTW my flight out is about 8pm on the Monday night FYI.

Any and all all offers entertained :-)




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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Sounds great to me! I'll be there with my party shoes on! lol...

tan.

- Original Message - 
From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 5:49 AM
Subject: RE: GFM Attendees (updated)


  -Original Message-
  From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  On 7/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
 
  In any case it seems there will be some out-of-towners in
  DC before GFM so
  I'm sure we can all get together at tv's place for Indian food...
 
  I'm arriving at Dulles on the Thursday at 6pm. By the time
  I get around
  to Tom's it'll be nearly 8pm ? and I'll be ravenous - especially for
  Indian food :-)
 
  Count me in.
 
 I was thinking for Cotty's only night in DC we should head downtown
 somewhere, maybe Georgetown?
 
 tv
 
 
 
 



Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Cotty, I too, will be flying out on the Monday - not sure of the exact time
yet though, and I put in first dibs for the shower (promise not to use all
of the hot water though!)

h, Georgetown, Washington - those Americans sure were inventive when
naming their towns lol...

tan.

- Original Message - 
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:25 AM
Subject: RE: GFM Attendees (updated)


 On 8/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

 I was thinking for Cotty's only night in DC we should head downtown
 somewhere, maybe Georgetown?

 Georgetown, Washington? Figures.

 There's the Sunday night as well, if we are returning to DC then,
 although I dare say that it'll be spent forming an orderly line for the
 shower

 BTW my flight out is about 8pm on the Monday night FYI.

 Any and all all offers entertained :-)




 Cheers,
   Cotty


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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Cotty said: Any and all all offers entertained :-)

h, you could be setting yourself up with that one there mate

fairygirl.



Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread Rob Studdert
On 8 Dec 2003 at 8:55, mike wilson wrote:

 Doesn't it come under the convention about cruel and unusual
 punishment?

Probably. My problem is that if I travel half way around the world I can't 
justify staying less than a month given that I can't write it off as a business 
cost and the air-fares alone will be about US$2250 cattle class. :-(



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HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

I put in first dibs for the shower (promise not to use all
of the hot water though!)

There is a compromise here, modesty aside.




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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
OMG! LOL - NO COMMENT!

tan (who is *trying* to compose herself!)


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To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: GFM Attendees (updated)


 On 8/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
 
 I put in first dibs for the shower (promise not to use all
 of the hot water though!)
 
 There is a compromise here, modesty aside.
 
 
 
 
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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Cotty, on a side note - where in England are you, and how long is the flight
to the US?  How much approx. does it cost?  I have ALWAYS wanted to shoot in
England/Ireland, I am very Celtic inclined, and love all of that old stuff.
PLUS, my best friend lives in London and just had a baby, so I was thinking
that while I was in the Hemisphere, I may be able to take a little detour if
funds allow it...

tan.


- Original Message - 
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: GFM Attendees (updated)


 On 8/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

 I put in first dibs for the shower (promise not to use all
 of the hot water though!)

 There is a compromise here, modesty aside.




 Cheers,
   Cotty


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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Rob, I am flying into NYC or DC - both of which are AU $1800 cattle class...

tan.


- Original Message - 
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: GFM Attendees (updated)


 On 8 Dec 2003 at 8:55, mike wilson wrote:

  Doesn't it come under the convention about cruel and unusual
  punishment?

 Probably. My problem is that if I travel half way around the world I can't
 justify staying less than a month given that I can't write it off as a
business
 cost and the air-fares alone will be about US$2250 cattle class. :-(



 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread cbwaters
Heck, we couldn't come up with enough names for our STATES let alone the
towns in them.  North  South Dakota, West Virginia, North and South
Carolina...The best in my opinion is Kansas and Arkansas.  Ourkansas?  They
MUST have been kidding.

Cory

- Original Message - 
From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: GFM Attendees (updated)


  h, Georgetown, Washington - those Americans sure were inventive when
  naming their towns lol...

 Yep, Norfolk, Portsmouth, New York, New Hampshire, Jamestown, New London
and
 many, many, more.

 Bill





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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread Bill Owens
What I can't understand about this is, why isn't Arkansas pronounced
Ar-can-sas instead of Ar-can-saw?


Bill


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: GFM Attendees (updated)


 Heck, we couldn't come up with enough names for our STATES let alone the
 towns in them.  North  South Dakota, West Virginia, North and South
 Carolina...The best in my opinion is Kansas and Arkansas.  Ourkansas?
They
 MUST have been kidding.

 Cory

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 From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 5:11 PM
 Subject: Re: GFM Attendees (updated)


   h, Georgetown, Washington - those Americans sure were inventive
when
   naming their towns lol...
 
  Yep, Norfolk, Portsmouth, New York, New Hampshire, Jamestown, New London
 and
  many, many, more.
 
  Bill
 
 
 


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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread John Francis
 
 Cotty, on a side note - where in England are you, and how long is the flight
 to the US?  How much approx. does it cost?  I have ALWAYS wanted to shoot in
 England/Ireland, I am very Celtic inclined, and love all of that old stuff.
 PLUS, my best friend lives in London and just had a baby, so I was thinking
 that while I was in the Hemisphere, I may be able to take a little detour if
 funds allow it...

If you want to consider that, then you should look into the special tickets
offered by several of the airlines for a complete round-the-world trip.

I know, for example, that Air New Zealand (part of the Star Alliance) offer
such a ticket.  There are a few restrictions on the ticket, but it looks as
though you could meet the conditions fairly easily.



Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread graywolf
Well you can not name every city Kalamazoo, Ypsilanti, or Hell (all in 
Michigan). Nor even Mocksville, or Welcome (here in North Carolina) drove 
through them today.

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Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:
Cotty, I too, will be flying out on the Monday - not sure of the exact time
yet though, and I put in first dibs for the shower (promise not to use all
of the hot water though!)
h, Georgetown, Washington - those Americans sure were inventive when
naming their towns lol...
tan.

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Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:25 AM
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On 8/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:


I was thinking for Cotty's only night in DC we should head downtown
somewhere, maybe Georgetown?
Georgetown, Washington? Figures.

There's the Sunday night as well, if we are returning to DC then,
although I dare say that it'll be spent forming an orderly line for the
shower
BTW my flight out is about 8pm on the Monday night FYI.

Any and all all offers entertained :-)



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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread graywolf
Arkansasians claim Kansas is properly pronounced Ka-saw.

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Bill Owens wrote:

What I can't understand about this is, why isn't Arkansas pronounced
Ar-can-sas instead of Ar-can-saw?
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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
hehe, there'll be more room after i polish off all of those pizzas - mind
you, on second thoughts, that may not be the case... i may no longer be a
smaller aussie (at least i'll be a well-fed one though...)

;-)

tan.


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Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:33 AM
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  -Original Message-
  From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  Hey, Tom,
 
  You got room in your vehicle for a skinny Canadian?  vbg

 So far I have 1 large brit, 1 smaller aussie, 12 pizzas and an
 acoustic guitar.

 I'm thinking about renting or borrowing an suv.

 tv






Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread Otis Wright
You might want to look at just continuing on east to 'Oz from England.   
When I lived in Sydney, I often  traveled to Europe via the US and found 
that returning on a easterly route was about the same cost and quite 
interesting.

Otis Wright

Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:

Cotty, on a side note - where in England are you, and how long is the flight
to the US?  How much approx. does it cost?  I have ALWAYS wanted to shoot in
England/Ireland, I am very Celtic inclined, and love all of that old stuff.
PLUS, my best friend lives in London and just had a baby, so I was thinking
that while I was in the Hemisphere, I may be able to take a little detour if
funds allow it...
tan.

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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

 

On 8/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

   

I put in first dibs for the shower (promise not to use all
of the hot water though!)
 

There is a compromise here, modesty aside.



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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-08 Thread Otis Wright
They charge more for Sydney cattle.

Otis Wright

Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:

Rob, I am flying into NYC or DC - both of which are AU $1800 cattle class...

tan.

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Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:02 AM
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On 8 Dec 2003 at 8:55, mike wilson wrote:

   

Doesn't it come under the convention about cruel and unusual
punishment?
 

Probably. My problem is that if I travel half way around the world I can't
justify staying less than a month given that I can't write it off as a
   

business
 

cost and the air-fares alone will be about US$2250 cattle class. :-(



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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-07 Thread Bill Owens

- Original Message - 
From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 9:36 PM
Subject: GFM Attendees (updated)

Looks like in excess of 20 attending, and maybe closer to 30.  Have there
ever been that many PDML'ers together in one place at the same time before?

Bill




Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-07 Thread frank theriault
God, I hope not!

Nor is there likely to be such a gathering again, I reckon.

cheers,
frank
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fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Looks like in excess of 20 attending, and maybe closer to 30.  Have there
ever been that many PDML'ers together in one place at the same time before?
Bill


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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-07 Thread Mr. William M Kane
Uh oh,

   I've heard rumors that if XXX Pentax users get together in the same 
place that the space/time continum will collapse in on itself . . . 
let's keep it to 29 or under guys :-)

IL Bill

P.S.  Wouldn't it be great to get 60 LX users together in the same 
place at the same time?
On Sunday, December 7, 2003, at 09:09 PM, Bill Owens wrote:

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From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 9:36 PM
Subject: GFM Attendees (updated)
Looks like in excess of 20 attending, and maybe closer to 30.  Have 
there
ever been that many PDML'ers together in one place at the same time 
before?

Bill




Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-07 Thread Christian Skofteland
I wasn't planning on attending, but judging by the huge turnout, I may have
to adjust plans and go!

In any case it seems there will be some out-of-towners in DC before GFM so
I'm sure we can all get together at tv's place for Indian food...

Christian Skofteland
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Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-07 Thread Rob Studdert
On 7 Dec 2003 at 21:36, tom wrote:

 TV
 Annsan
 Doug
 Bill
 Cesar
 Mark
 Rittenhouse
 Cotty
 Stan
 ERN
 A lurker or 2
 Jostein
 Frank
 Adelheid
 Desjardins?
 Jerome?
 Doug Franklin?
 Len?
 Herb?
 Cory Or Brenda?
 Tom Reese?
 Bruce?
 Tanya?

This is torture :-(

Rob Studdert
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Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: GFM Attendees (updated)

2003-12-07 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Rob, if you start some acrobatic lessons now, you may be flexible enough by
June that you can stow away in my suitcase!

tan.

- Original Message - 
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: GFM Attendees (updated)


 On 7 Dec 2003 at 21:36, tom wrote:

  TV
  Annsan
  Doug
  Bill
  Cesar
  Mark
  Rittenhouse
  Cotty
  Stan
  ERN
  A lurker or 2
  Jostein
  Frank
  Adelheid
  Desjardins?
  Jerome?
  Doug Franklin?
  Len?
  Herb?
  Cory Or Brenda?
  Tom Reese?
  Bruce?
  Tanya?

 This is torture :-(

 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
 Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998